Jordan Peterson STUMPED A Trans Activist With A Simple Question On Pronouns

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In this video, witness Jordan Peterson's thought-provoking clash with a trans activist, where he poses a simple question on pronouns that stumps his opponent. Dive into the intense debate surrounding gender pronouns and the implications for free speech. Join us as we unravel the layers of linguistic evolution and societal pressures, revealing the complexities of this heated discourse.
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@jayg4202
@jayg4202 Ай бұрын
If you can't accept yourself for who you are, why do you expect the rest of the world to accept you for who you aren’t?
@normmcrae1140
@normmcrae1140 Ай бұрын
100%
@harimadhavan1712
@harimadhavan1712 Ай бұрын
Well said 👍🏾😎
@Eilen62
@Eilen62 Ай бұрын
Hear, hear!!!
@jerrylagesse9046
@jerrylagesse9046 Ай бұрын
Well stated Jay
@tonygrowley5275
@tonygrowley5275 Ай бұрын
Worrying about other people's sexuality is waste of time.
@walterxplinge3867
@walterxplinge3867 Ай бұрын
To be fair, I feel "attacked and threatened" by someone imposing their preferred pronouns on me.
@nemanjastankovic4439
@nemanjastankovic4439 Ай бұрын
I feel irritated so I use word "YOU" if I have to :P
@JANFU_Nova
@JANFU_Nova Ай бұрын
well you're a normal, regular, sane person. Your feelings are irrelevant.
@rogerhancock8732
@rogerhancock8732 Ай бұрын
👍
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 Ай бұрын
There are two genders...you are born XX or XY.....full stop...that's science....didn't you all say believe science or was that just for the poiso covvvvvvid shottttt
@GameTime-yj6qv
@GameTime-yj6qv Ай бұрын
Snow flake
@NoDiddyDidntDoitOrDiddy
@NoDiddyDidntDoitOrDiddy Ай бұрын
As a black person, I'm sick of these people throwing in black people to fit their narrative😒🙄
@sunzshotcuts1162
@sunzshotcuts1162 Ай бұрын
EVERYTIME! its just sick.
@Strong_Libra_Scales
@Strong_Libra_Scales Ай бұрын
I heard her say the evolution of the N word... what a weirdo, that would was used as a weapon
@patof72clune51
@patof72clune51 Ай бұрын
Your the problem also as black is not a race or colour.
@neglectfulsausage7689
@neglectfulsausage7689 Ай бұрын
I dont care about your skin-credentials.
@thegroovyhead
@thegroovyhead Ай бұрын
"White saviours," o so passionate, o so enlightened. I agree with you; it is irritating to be used in someone's mouth as they think they're earning points by expressing opinions that they think make them seem informed and edgily cool.
@scott4482
@scott4482 Ай бұрын
I refuse to support delusional thinking. Insanity is insanity, I won't call it a normal.
@gutyourtrust
@gutyourtrust Ай бұрын
Insanity and delusion *are* the norm. So i wouldn't use "normal" as your baseline
@Mr.Ekshin
@Mr.Ekshin 27 күн бұрын
@@gutyourtrust ... No, these people are 1% of the population trying to impose their insanity on the rest of us. They aren't the 'norm'. I know that TV, films, and 'pop' culture try to make it look like they are some significant portion of the population... they aren't. As you go to work, go shopping, and do normal things in your normal, everyday life... how many of these people do you actually encounter? Almost none. Out of the hundreds of people I see every day, encountering one of these folks is a rare enough occurrence that it's memorable. I always get a good chuckle when I come across one of them.
@JohnMiller-gb7lp
@JohnMiller-gb7lp 25 күн бұрын
​@@gutyourtrust Only in a postmodernist world view.
@hitkid2456
@hitkid2456 23 күн бұрын
Like your own huh.
@Supsboredrn
@Supsboredrn Күн бұрын
What’s not normal is obsessing over how people choose to live their lives. The only reason I know about this stuff is because people like Jordan Peterson talk about it all day long. He’s soo thirsty 😂😂😂!
@ansc6472
@ansc6472 Ай бұрын
The tyranny of the minority will not dictate my speech
@DudeSoWin
@DudeSoWin Ай бұрын
The English Web won't fall as easily as the German printing press did. Digital Hitler vs Skynet who will win?
@toonlad4091
@toonlad4091 Ай бұрын
Amen!
@scorned5014
@scorned5014 Ай бұрын
Never bow to the cry bullies.
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Ай бұрын
Right!!
@carolann4087
@carolann4087 Ай бұрын
Plus, I don't speak Wokeneese.
@tammyosier134
@tammyosier134 Ай бұрын
Nobody is attacking them. In fact, if they didn't bring it up, nobody would pay any attention to them. I think they suffer from paranoid delusions.
@tigertextmitchie2053
@tigertextmitchie2053 Ай бұрын
As a trans person myself, I tend to shift people's attention from the fact that I'm trans to my random outbursts of silliness. I like making people laugh. I mean, I'm not really hurting anyone or anything. Just my ego.😂
@fetus2280
@fetus2280 Ай бұрын
Criticism and being Challenged to them is being attacked. They just cant handle Truth, Facts. We dont care of you want to live your live as trans. Just dont tell us how to Speak.
@tigertextmitchie2053
@tigertextmitchie2053 Ай бұрын
@@fetus2280 I get questioned a lot. And i do answer them as honest as I can ^_^
@amialal4510
@amialal4510 Ай бұрын
@@fetus2280 Good point! Exaggeration is part of their scam, so the language they use conform to this accordingly.
@nemanjastankovic4439
@nemanjastankovic4439 Ай бұрын
@@tigertextmitchie2053 Very good for others but if you make others happy you are doing good thing and you should be proud of that not feel bad about it. If it makes it feel bad say whatever :P I won't mind in that case.
@brentrichards1200
@brentrichards1200 29 күн бұрын
My refusal to play pretend with someone is not the same as attacking them. Them attempting to force me to play pretend is attacking me.
@NishiyamaArtist
@NishiyamaArtist Ай бұрын
There is a clip of a legislator in some chamber exclaiming to a woke group, "How important do you have to think you are, to give me an instruction manual on how to talk to you, are you kidding me . . . "
@MrHawger
@MrHawger 22 күн бұрын
YUP!
@time4tea595
@time4tea595 Ай бұрын
So sick of Woke / Trans / Me-Me I'm Hurt Culture........
@deanmartin6052
@deanmartin6052 Ай бұрын
You're not alone.
@marcusrosales3344
@marcusrosales3344 Ай бұрын
These woke people have such little empathy too. I generally can not stand someone who doesn't practice what they preach, but I feel this version is exceptionally bad...
@wesleyb1458
@wesleyb1458 Ай бұрын
The leftist media brain washing and agendas have worked perfectly for them. Unfortunate for us folks the believe in the in the values that this country was built upon and has made us a great nation. Now everything is in upheaval everyone is offended by everything and we are being brainwashed to hate each other. Segregation is coming back they succeeded
@michaelxz1305
@michaelxz1305 Ай бұрын
While you guys criticize, I'm going to to make millions. I'm going to sell portable safe spaces on Amazon. They fold up for when you don't need them, so don't waste valuable space in your apartment but when you need that safe space.. You just unfold your 3x3x3 cube and get inside.. For extra safety the premium versions are sound proofed and come with an optional Faraday cage.
@CephalonAxii
@CephalonAxii Ай бұрын
@@michaelxz1305I wish you all the luck in the world, oh future philanthropist mine
@mariatorres9789
@mariatorres9789 Ай бұрын
There's nothing violent about free speech, only from forced compelled speech. 🤷
@timeforanap4268
@timeforanap4268 Ай бұрын
Trying to control someone's right to free speech, will only close the door to minds that start off open to your feelings and beliefs, and throw away the keys to minds that are already locked against you.
@NiaLaLa_V
@NiaLaLa_V Ай бұрын
@@timeforanap4268 Exactly. It's a real shame the left will not listen to what you just said.
@luckyluc25
@luckyluc25 Ай бұрын
I cannot imagine what BS the Dems have coming next. We'll probably find out in a few months from now, well before the election because it looks like they are not getting Trump legally, and only pushing him back in the White House as more are seeing the left's BS. Won't be enough Trans to keep Biden in office. Wouldn't matter anyways. Dems only needed their vote Just to do nothing again for them, or they'd have no complaints. Obama never even gave them the bathroom's he offered. And they blame Trump for that even though it was Obama's, and the Democrats idea.
@michaelxz1305
@michaelxz1305 Ай бұрын
"words are violence"... so what is actual violence? super duper extra violence I guess.
@and567go
@and567go Ай бұрын
I’m willing to bet the Jews in Europe during World War II, would have much rather been called names😳 as opposed to what they actually endured🤯
@dpeters9897
@dpeters9897 Ай бұрын
“Do what I say, or else.” That doesn’t sound terribly tolerant or inclusive, to me.
@deedeeporter7183
@deedeeporter7183 Ай бұрын
I'd like to know how many people have been hospitalized or died from being called the wrong pronoun. If this is such a violent life threatening issue there should be statistics on this.
@chocobrowniewin
@chocobrowniewin 26 күн бұрын
I think we can find stats for the opposite. When failure to comply causes them to attack us.
@FoodNerds
@FoodNerds 25 күн бұрын
You would think! ? 🤔
@Fahrenheit4051
@Fahrenheit4051 25 күн бұрын
I'm a male, but have accidentally been called "she" despite looking nothing like a woman. Spent forty days in the hospital, and was diagnosed with "butthurt", a rare but serious medical condition.
@deedeeporter7183
@deedeeporter7183 25 күн бұрын
@@Fahrenheit4051 lol
@zmcfadgen
@zmcfadgen 25 күн бұрын
Right! 😂
@chewface
@chewface Ай бұрын
"Being mean is violence.".....literally spoken like someone who has never encountered actual violence.
@theastronomer5800
@theastronomer5800 Ай бұрын
Well, it could be "micro-aggression", lol.
@ajb5559
@ajb5559 Ай бұрын
Yes. Said by people who have never been punched in the face.
@patataboy
@patataboy Ай бұрын
That is why most Trans activists are white people in the northern part of America. It is an issue of the wealthiest. But whatever they are going through is their problem and I understand the fact that they try to change society for their own comfort. But the gut job is to ensure the majorities rights and protect minorities not the opposite. What I'm afraid about is when the silent majority will have enough of having its freedom of speech fundamental right or any other rights revoked to please some people that have gender disphoria at best or extreme left political agenda ... blood will be spilled and people from those minorities will be heavily harmed or even killed.
@TayWoode
@TayWoode Ай бұрын
They never got punched
@TayWoode
@TayWoode Ай бұрын
@@ajb5559haha yes I’ve just said the same
@Apvizionz
@Apvizionz Ай бұрын
Being "polite" and using perfered pronouns is how we've ended up in this mess. We are being forced to partisipate in delusions and fantasies.
@robanderson473
@robanderson473 Ай бұрын
Stuff politeness, I'm jack of all this horse shite.
@edwardlynch6550
@edwardlynch6550 Ай бұрын
Im not forced to respect my friends. I dont understand how they got where tbey are. But if you rock with someone youll learn it.
@jazzyjace1
@jazzyjace1 Ай бұрын
​@edwardlynch655 but that's not what people are passed about. Ya see the majority of us do not hang out with trans and some guys dressed to be a miss don't look it, yet they run around trying to get people to call them sir so they can freak out. It's the approach. I mean remember when all this started with the misgendering? People from what I saw were ya know, wow. They were awe struck by the idea but they also tried to learn and so many people just accepted it and tried to men she's. The gender district began to demand things like woman's bathrooms and such and alot of people were like. Ok, thats weird but they went along then they went the children. With reading books. They had rallies and chanted how they were coming for the children!! It's my belief had yas takin the win and be happy yas showed how perverse this mental disease cam be and well not so much support anymore as a matter of fact I myself will not bend to have anyone tell me how I will refrence any person
@user-qj7et4wv3q
@user-qj7et4wv3q Ай бұрын
Nobody is forcing me, I just ignore them.
@eunomiac
@eunomiac Ай бұрын
You sure about that? Are you convinced that gender dysphoria isn't a real disorder that can, in many cases, be effectively cured via cosmetic surgery? I think those poor folks, the _real_ transsexual people who _actually_ suffer, deserve our empathy and the dignity of not blatantly misgendering them for the fun of it. Of course, I also believe that those people make up a relatively small percent of all the trans-trenders coming out of the woodwork nowadays, but we shouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater on this because going too far really could cause actual harm, if even to only a small minority of people.
@cynthiamosley2264
@cynthiamosley2264 27 күн бұрын
I will not call a man by a female pronoun or vice versa.
@drowningin
@drowningin Ай бұрын
She destroyed her own argument! She said they weren’t allowed to speak their own language, and only after the government stopped regulating it were they able to speak their native language. That goes entirely against compelled speech
@catbird7007
@catbird7007 Ай бұрын
Her point is BS, too. Any foreign language was not allowed DURING SCHOOL, where they were all taught to speak English -- because you cannot teach a classroom full of kids speaking different languages, and they wanted them listening, not chatting among their friends.l during class time. That goes for Gaelic people, Native Americans, Italians, and on and on, including Czech for my mother and French for my father. No one banned their native tongue in a home setting among loved ones of the same background. What a bunch of crap she's trying to insinuate.
@JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive
@JamesJNothingIsTooSensitive 29 күн бұрын
Because all they can do is lie to support their narrative. They lie when they speak, they lie about what you said when you speak, and they lie when they pretend to not understand what you actually said. They're just purely deceitful all around. Why? Because their entire identity is based on a lie from the start! That's how they go around claiming to be "non-binary" as if they somehow define what a species is - we ARE a binary species, you don't get a choice. How they claim to be the opposite gender - you aren't and never will be. You don't get a choice. And so much more. Their entire identity is a lie, so why be surprised when they are liars?
@susandrydenhenderson6234
@susandrydenhenderson6234 15 күн бұрын
It’s not been illegal to use Gaelic in Ireland since 1494.
@eriphoor
@eriphoor Ай бұрын
Jordan Peterson is not wrong...
@MikeInHalifax
@MikeInHalifax Ай бұрын
Thr other guy however...
@peterjermey7235
@peterjermey7235 Ай бұрын
I don't understand the popularity of Peterson. He's just a controversy seeker
@Solafein
@Solafein Ай бұрын
@@peterjermey7235 The simple fact that it is so popular expresses how we are living in an ideologically chaotic world. The guy speaks the obvious and logical, and this offends people nowadays, and as a result he becomes famous. this is complete madness
@peterjermey7235
@peterjermey7235 Ай бұрын
@@Solafein hmmm I don't think a lot of what he says is logical though.
@tjstrongbone5373
@tjstrongbone5373 Ай бұрын
@@peterjermey7235example?
@MsBee431
@MsBee431 Ай бұрын
You can identify as anything you like, just don't expect me to join in your fantasy.
@NiaLaLa_V
@NiaLaLa_V Ай бұрын
My favorite joke someone came up with during this time is you can identify as a plant but I am NOT gonna water you.
@michaelxz1305
@michaelxz1305 Ай бұрын
I saw a video the other day where the mother who took her kid the vet, and the vet refused to treat the kid (as a cat)... decided she was not going to sue the vet.
@Dilley_G45
@Dilley_G45 Ай бұрын
Amen
@Sub2GigaChad
@Sub2GigaChad 29 күн бұрын
Your opinion may have hurt my feelings. Luckily for you, as an attack helicopter I don't have feelings.
@mynameisjaimej
@mynameisjaimej 15 күн бұрын
That's my position exactly. You can live your life however you like. Identify as a unicorn if you want. But I also have the right to not indulge in your delusion and live in reality where I base my opinions and perspectives on factual things. Not just how I "feel" about them. I can feel that the sun is actually a giant tennis ball that somebody lit on fire with a humongous lighter. But reality unequivocally proves that it is a star and science tells us exactly where it's heat comes from and why. lol
@KimPhilibert1203
@KimPhilibert1203 Ай бұрын
If you want tolerance... then YOU must tolerant... I will NOT change my speech for delusional people.
@jesseadebayo4746
@jesseadebayo4746 Ай бұрын
For an insane person to lord it over others to affirm their insanity is the height of oppression and cultural insanity.
@timeforanap4268
@timeforanap4268 Ай бұрын
How did it become more acceptable to destroy someone's livelihood because they believe in science, than it is to support the belief that cosmetic surgery can change your DNA?
@byMRTNjournals
@byMRTNjournals Ай бұрын
Choose between social engineering or world war
@GreatSageSunWukong
@GreatSageSunWukong Ай бұрын
Fiddling while Rome burns.
@roncoutanche5446
@roncoutanche5446 Ай бұрын
Bull shit baffles brains. When the majority has had enough these whiners will be cast out again by there own stupidity.
@AF-S1N1A1
@AF-S1N1A1 Ай бұрын
Believe in Scientific Facts.. because cosmetic surgery is a result from science.. it just won't change your gender.. just dress you up like one
@sachmo0196
@sachmo0196 Ай бұрын
Problem today is...Even the "Science" has been corrupted. It's now Suedo, faux, lied-upon, corrupted (hard). When once "DNA" was truth, it's now a maybe or wrong. This IS your Left today.
@buddyrichable1
@buddyrichable1 Ай бұрын
That little weasel professor must be so bummed out over the phenomenal success Jordan Peterson has had since that encounter.
@DudeSoWin
@DudeSoWin Ай бұрын
absurdum or ignorantiam gender? What fallacious fallopian spawned them into this world.
@keithad6485
@keithad6485 Ай бұрын
I suspect there are a lot of academics who a very jealous of JP. They seem to be driven by ego and need attention and praise.
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Ай бұрын
I hope they all are jealous. He has integrity and is a man of Yah(God). They follow the world thus Satan. Simple
@paddyb1957
@paddyb1957 Ай бұрын
Definitely bummed.
@thehamster2301
@thehamster2301 Ай бұрын
Given his mental and emotional breakdown and, obvious, ongoing personal problems perhaps he isn't someone you should be following. I don't believe in gender ideology or forcing people to play along.
@QuotidianStupidity
@QuotidianStupidity Ай бұрын
The fact that students thought that a teacher should be fired for teaching/saying something they disagree with shows how far we have strayed from the path. They should be slapped back to reality, not emboldened and supported like they are.
@jessefoster9343
@jessefoster9343 29 күн бұрын
It's one thing to choose to humor someone's chosen identity but it is an entirely different thing to be legally compelled to comply with said choice.
@bikerider4326
@bikerider4326 Ай бұрын
If gay is happy, WHY are those claiming to be “gay” always yelling and screaming at everybody? Apparently they aren’t very gay being “gay”… 🤔
@jefflong7036
@jefflong7036 Ай бұрын
Maybe donning their gay apparel would help....
@bikerider4326
@bikerider4326 Ай бұрын
@@jefflong7036 😂❤️🫡
@bwtv147
@bwtv147 Ай бұрын
Queer means odd, unusual, or phony. Homosexuals wanted to appropriate a positive descriptor. They settled on gay.
@bikerider4326
@bikerider4326 Ай бұрын
@@bwtv147 nothing positive about a penis smelling like poo… 🤮. But we all have different standards! 😂
@BundyPoppy
@BundyPoppy Ай бұрын
😂
@crystalwashington9280
@crystalwashington9280 Ай бұрын
Black and trans are NOT the same. Stop it.
@antoniatarto6313
@antoniatarto6313 22 күн бұрын
I feel "attacked and threatened" when a man comes into my women's restroom.
@Sternodox
@Sternodox Ай бұрын
I self-identify as a cheese grater. I'm sick and tired of elitist food processors looking down on me!
@OKBoomer2k
@OKBoomer2k 15 күн бұрын
Make America Grate Again😅
@Sternodox
@Sternodox 14 күн бұрын
@@OKBoomer2k Can't believe I didn't think of that. It's so obvious! Lolololol.
@FullMetalNobody
@FullMetalNobody Ай бұрын
Its called Free Speech, not Approved Speech.
@alexandermikhailov2481
@alexandermikhailov2481 Ай бұрын
This guys keeps telling Jordan 'I don't care about you' and then he demands that everyone else cares about him... 🤔 The logic escapes me.😮
@kathleenmcconaha5608
@kathleenmcconaha5608 27 күн бұрын
there is no logic for these sorts. their fluid in thought word and deed
@tylerriojas6250
@tylerriojas6250 26 күн бұрын
I can't get over the fake " man voice" like it's insulting somehow. It's like just no. You don't meet the beauty standards of your sex. You want to be treated like you put in the work when you haven't. Look at my ' beard ' an I one of you?
@TheUnojoe2
@TheUnojoe2 26 күн бұрын
I think you recited the “logic” fairly and succinctly.
@DavidJones-ey6ie
@DavidJones-ey6ie 25 күн бұрын
It's called I can use this kind of language to harass others.
@tylerriojas6250
@tylerriojas6250 25 күн бұрын
@@DavidJones-ey6ie a the end of the day it's like little kids acting out. " Lovvvveee meeee" in like... well love yourself first? I'm straight and had to learn that?
@beavis4play
@beavis4play 27 күн бұрын
when that woman says "we can drive social change" she REALLY means: "we can FORCE people to BEND TO OUR WILL".
@chrisbealey6478
@chrisbealey6478 Ай бұрын
Arguing with a fool gets you nowhere,best to just walk away and keep your sanity .
@magiciansway
@magiciansway Ай бұрын
I'm not prepared to participate in someone's delusion.
@joshstephens413
@joshstephens413 Ай бұрын
Hate to tell you this, but you are the one in a delusion.
@GlidingBoulder
@GlidingBoulder Ай бұрын
I am. My pronouns are dad/daddy because I identify as a peculiarly impeccable masculine person... I'll let you work out the acronym 🤣
@tonywinters7189
@tonywinters7189 Ай бұрын
I keep hearing these people talk about the danger they face on a daily basis, how people like him are being harmed and killed because of their Problem. I watch the news every night at 5 PM and sometimes again at 9 or 10 PM, and unless I have gone deft I have not heard any news stories about Trans People being gunned down in the streets, or linched from the nearest tree. Just where are all of these people who are being placed in danger, who are being harassed, and who are being threatened??? One of my neighbors is gay and after at least 10 years of living next door to me, I have yet to see him come home beaten and bloodied. Is he just one of the lucky ones or is this all a crock of BS???
@miekesmit7012
@miekesmit7012 Ай бұрын
Putting yourself as a victim is not healthy
@Eilen62
@Eilen62 Ай бұрын
It's an ABSOLUTE crock of shite!!
@freeinghumanitynow
@freeinghumanitynow Ай бұрын
What they leave out are why so many tr@ns people get k!lled is because tr@ns people engage in xes work in very high numbers and end up getting attacked by Johns. This is just a fact.
@Robisquick
@Robisquick Ай бұрын
We live in a world where the left has placed a proverbial microscope on social interactions. And this magnifies tiny instances to still feel like large instances. There are legally clarified hate crimes and murders against trans and gay community. But they are minuscule and most of this is politically magnified to drum up frustration and feed the machine of the left.
@MHLivestreams
@MHLivestreams Ай бұрын
None of the gay people I know have complained about being attacked, etc, maybe they get the occasional remark, but that's all.
@charmawow
@charmawow Ай бұрын
Please don’t compare the colour of my skin to anything remotely ‘trans’!
@brentscott5359
@brentscott5359 29 күн бұрын
As a child, I was always reminded that "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me" Those two adversaries of Dr. Peterson have never had any physical education. IYKYK.
@gregkosinski2303
@gregkosinski2303 Ай бұрын
Did anyone on the panel point out the irony of the female gym teacher lamenting that the Irish were compelled to speak English while simultaneously arguing that people should be compelled to use made up pronouns?
@amandakuykendall2911
@amandakuykendall2911 29 күн бұрын
I certainly did!!
@anwylhsm954
@anwylhsm954 29 күн бұрын
Yep. I was disappointed nobody said anything! wtf
@phlebdouglas
@phlebdouglas 28 күн бұрын
Logical fallacies
@douglaspelegrini6929
@douglaspelegrini6929 28 күн бұрын
Like we are supposed to feel sorry for the Irish! I thought we could only do that to indigenous groups, etc.
@gregkosinski2303
@gregkosinski2303 27 күн бұрын
@@douglaspelegrini6929 the good news is that the Irish ARE an indigenous group
@RayCarroll67
@RayCarroll67 Ай бұрын
This has happened because far too many of us prefer to walk on eggshells around these deliberately overly emotional attention seekers rather than challenge them or buy into their self-inflicted delusions.
@DudeSoWin
@DudeSoWin Ай бұрын
They are Ergots created by LSD alkaloids. Psyche meds and Vegan Grains all have the bread of madness. That is why they hallucinate staring you in the face calling you a "big"ot all while having these identity and body problems. Learn some Hypnosis and the modern day slavery won't give you any trouble.
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Ай бұрын
Probably because they are clearly hostile and willing to act physically with violent action to attempt to bully the world into this evil.
@ivismartinez2542
@ivismartinez2542 Ай бұрын
A militant at times violent alphabet crowd and yes attention seeking !
@1i11ies8
@1i11ies8 Ай бұрын
What an ignorant messy comment
@1i11ies8
@1i11ies8 Ай бұрын
​@@kittycat8222can you give me one example of that
@tungstenanderson5991
@tungstenanderson5991 29 күн бұрын
The amount of bullying and violence from trans activists is disgusting.
@CtDDtC1919
@CtDDtC1919 29 күн бұрын
If I was a hiring manager for a company, and had several (equally qualified) applicants, the ones who have preferred pronouns wouldn't be coming back for a 2nd interview. They would be a liability with an overly sensitive chip on their shoulder, just looking for a reason to feel attacked based on their imagined slights.
@janstolk486
@janstolk486 Ай бұрын
Who would even get in a conversation with these people ! Just walk away .
@marshalmcdonald7476
@marshalmcdonald7476 Ай бұрын
Exactly. I tried for a while, but now I don't even bother.
@Strika_713
@Strika_713 Ай бұрын
If only it were that easy. This scheme is far deeper and far more nefarious. At some point you’ll have nowhere to walk to.
@sammic7492
@sammic7492 Ай бұрын
I agree, it's not worth, but I bet they'll then complain that you ignored them because you're a bigot, they just love drama and attention.
@phl2443
@phl2443 Ай бұрын
Because it doesn’t make money lol
@McBernes
@McBernes Ай бұрын
You have to engage in discussions, if you don't foolishness progresses unopposed.
@tobysgamingworld1550
@tobysgamingworld1550 Ай бұрын
That creep said “I mean equality is a good IDEA and freedom of speech is sort of a good IDEA but…” These people would gladly take away your right to have an opinion. I’m not even talking about screaming threats in public or harassing someone, these people would literally enjoy and are working towards taking your right to have an opinion away from you.
@nicem8746
@nicem8746 Ай бұрын
Truth
@Incomudro1963
@Incomudro1963 29 күн бұрын
100% they would have anyone who disagrees with them in Maoist dunce caps.
@belchnasty
@belchnasty 28 күн бұрын
Thought Police….
@Mr.Ekshin
@Mr.Ekshin 27 күн бұрын
Forget 'opinions'... this has gone WAY beyond differing viewpoints. They are demanding that obvious lies be considered as the new "truth" ... and that anyone who tells the actual truth should be ostracized, reported, and punished. That's Marxism in a nutshell... force the people to believe whatever the government tells them, no matter how ridiculous or implausible. And once the government has that kind of power, the first ones to be sacrificed under that power... are the "useful idiots" that gave them that power in the first place.
@saltoftheearth2009
@saltoftheearth2009 27 күн бұрын
So scary!
@mpa8336
@mpa8336 26 күн бұрын
The inmates have taken over the asylum.
@unclerhombus
@unclerhombus 25 күн бұрын
Once you realize these folks can’t even offer a definition of what a woman even is you realize the extent of their lunacy.
@scottrickhoff4184
@scottrickhoff4184 Ай бұрын
Why should I be forced to accept you as you are when you never accepted yourself as you were.
@FoodNerds
@FoodNerds Ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@nadasimich1267
@nadasimich1267 Ай бұрын
Yes 😂
@amandakuykendall2911
@amandakuykendall2911 29 күн бұрын
Or you are not accepting me as I am, instead, you want to push your beliefs upon me and ask me to change the way I think the way I speak. Not happening.
@FoodNerds
@FoodNerds 29 күн бұрын
@@amandakuykendall2911 I think you misunderstood- He’s pointing out the irony of a person insisting on being accepted for something that they are not physically but that said person states that they are on the inside. Those feelings or beliefs that one has about who that person is can change. For example being non-binary. Well unless a person is born intersexed then a person is either a male or female. One can say hey I don’t fit into either group in terms how I behave or feel about my self. Ok. Yet some will claim - no my biology is neither male nor female. I think the doctor would have noticed that a long time ago. I personally know someone like that. Well that doesn’t happen. People dont spontaneously grow reproductive organs of the opposite sex. Concrete thinkers like my self and I think this other person is, have brains that think in very rational manners so thinking in very non- concrete ways is something that is seen as irrational. To someone who thinks differently whose brain works differently this might be ok but for my self that is the same as saying 1+1= kangaroo 🦘 + cheese. 🧀 Huh? So it’s more about manners of thinking not forcing anything on someone. Does this explain this idea or ideas to you?
@joparkcat
@joparkcat 29 күн бұрын
why don't you woke trump supporters just ignore them, why try and cancel them. Oh, and Orangeman gone.😂🤣😅
@marylefebvre8189
@marylefebvre8189 Ай бұрын
I think most people have forgotten the definition of fascism. Forced language and forced thought with punitive consequences is fascism. So sad this is happening.
@Varunic219
@Varunic219 29 күн бұрын
The simple truth
@FoodNerds
@FoodNerds 28 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@lorih2249
@lorih2249 27 күн бұрын
Exactly
@TheUnojoe2
@TheUnojoe2 26 күн бұрын
Phones and cameras provide fantastic tools for rights abuses.
@eyelessnosea1413
@eyelessnosea1413 24 күн бұрын
"You're not important enough to give me an instruction manual in how to talk to you..."
@markmiller5253
@markmiller5253 Ай бұрын
If I were black that would offend me. Comparing the two is wrong.
@saltoftheearth2009
@saltoftheearth2009 27 күн бұрын
So true!
@LFDNC
@LFDNC 24 күн бұрын
I’m not black and it offends me.
@ClutchClick
@ClutchClick 17 күн бұрын
Agreed. I’d walk out of the conversation.
@BerserkersBattle-816
@BerserkersBattle-816 Ай бұрын
A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.
@johnreno4156
@johnreno4156 Ай бұрын
That's a keeper
@peterkeijsers489
@peterkeijsers489 Ай бұрын
It's actually very simple. 'They/them' refers to more than one person. So if someone wants me to use those pronouns towards that person, that person is grammatically wrong. Period.
@cufflink44
@cufflink44 Ай бұрын
How about this sentence: "If someone tells you to use incorrect pronouns, they shouldn't get their way." OK to you? I mean, "someone" is singular, and "they/their" is plural. So that sentence is wrong, right?
@peterkeijsers489
@peterkeijsers489 Ай бұрын
​@@cufflink44 According to the grammar rules, that's perfect English.
@michaelfrevert9713
@michaelfrevert9713 Ай бұрын
They/their is being used as a possesive singular pronoun in your example​. " Someone " being the singular object they/their are possessing @@cufflink44
@jackellis4287
@jackellis4287 Ай бұрын
If you can't complete a sentence in the singular then start in in the plural (people rather than "the person" etc.)
@peterkeijsers489
@peterkeijsers489 Ай бұрын
@@jackellis4287 Once again: someone(.....)they/them is perfect English. It so happens to be one of those quirky rules, so don't shoot the messenger. Same goes (for example) 'the police are.....'
@pianospawn1
@pianospawn1 26 күн бұрын
"The truth hurts" is an age old expression.
@azscab
@azscab 27 күн бұрын
If your going to be supremely offended you are going to be eternally mocked.
@cmdrgabrieljay
@cmdrgabrieljay Ай бұрын
I won't play into their delusions. Truth is truth, and a lie cannot ever become truth, and I won't feed the lie.
@Eilen62
@Eilen62 Ай бұрын
Neither me!
@jojor9766
@jojor9766 Ай бұрын
You must understand that two plus two equals five.
@Canoe571
@Canoe571 Ай бұрын
Supreme Court ruled that freedom of speech includes freedom from forced speech.
@Subninja2012
@Subninja2012 Ай бұрын
“Basically Jordan is arguing that breaking down the fundamentals of human society is going to create chaos! Essentially a Marxist plot.”
@edjackson4389
@edjackson4389 23 күн бұрын
Someone facing legal charges, fines, or being locked up for their speech is ridiculous and a step back in progress. End of story.
@macca9320
@macca9320 Ай бұрын
Most of us do not like to be forced to do something we don't want to do. Forcing me to call you a sheep when you're a cow doesn't sit right. And I will push back when you demand I do something, I will do the opposite.
@BloodyCanadian
@BloodyCanadian Ай бұрын
"has a problem with authority" was often on my report card but usually it meant I wouldn't just take abuse even from a teacher. The teachers that were respectful to me loved me. You can be whatever you want but you can't make me believe it. The more they try the more I will resist because it's not reality to me and I won't play along.
@phoenixfoundation2690
@phoenixfoundation2690 Ай бұрын
Why is it that they can force me to accept them for who they are when they couldn't accept themselves for who they are...?
@dixienormous7049
@dixienormous7049 Ай бұрын
This comment is so very underrated.... it needs to be at the top of the list and asked to each and every single one of " *them* "
@EbonySoldier77
@EbonySoldier77 24 күн бұрын
As a black woman he does not speak for me.
@Suelabrie
@Suelabrie Ай бұрын
I’m so done with these people.
@cindysoule
@cindysoule Ай бұрын
Completely agree with Jordan and not with these Marxists. These people are so fluffy they can’t stand hurty words , I say tough. I was brought up knowing how to navigate people who didn’t agree with me.
@NiaLaLa_V
@NiaLaLa_V Ай бұрын
Isn't it a good thing? To have haters? I thought that is how we get famous, maybe I been doing it wrong all these years.
@terriperry9434
@terriperry9434 Ай бұрын
People that don't know if they are male or female do not get to lecture me on how to talk.
@zaddy83
@zaddy83 Ай бұрын
As Dave Chapelle said "to what degree to I have to participate in your self image?"
@bertveilleux1701
@bertveilleux1701 Ай бұрын
I love how the guy said free speech is a great idea, but.
@sallyvanderboegh1162
@sallyvanderboegh1162 Ай бұрын
How are these people unsafe?
@whollymindless
@whollymindless Ай бұрын
They are in danger from themselves.
@sagdragon64
@sagdragon64 Ай бұрын
If they are not victims or potential victims i.e. " I'm concerned for the safety of others feelings" they/them don't have an emotional string to pull to get the sympathizers attention and allegiance.
@nforne
@nforne Ай бұрын
It’s incredible how unashamedly they use DARVO. Peterson was being attacked incessantly when this discussion took place. The media was after him, his job was under threat. Those two gender experts had faced nothing even remotely like what Peterson was going through yet they had the nerve to claim they were the real victims. It makes my bodily fluids boil.
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Ай бұрын
Styx was a great rock band. Reminds me a river I heard of. Now if I mention my memory in the right way. I will be removed.
@williamcothrum9199
@williamcothrum9199 Ай бұрын
They use language and literal cult tactics to make others act and feel in the way they/them want. Cults are dangerous, and more so when getting government assistance n use of force
@loubieloujones5698
@loubieloujones5698 Ай бұрын
It must be so hard for JP to have to debate these fools
@angielovesusa
@angielovesusa 25 күн бұрын
What really makes me mad is when they get upset that I refuse to use their choosen pronouns. No one has the right to force me to participate in their Feelings/Beliefs!
@lulabellegnostic8402
@lulabellegnostic8402 25 күн бұрын
I don’t mind using someone else’s preferred pronouns, so long as they use mine. “Your Grace”.
@TheIvyLens
@TheIvyLens Ай бұрын
I saw this when it first aired. I’m a POC gay male and I’m appalled that these trans activists of the last five years have highjacked society. I’m no longer a democrat as the biggest threat to our society right now is the extreme left like these alphabet mafia gustapos. It no one’s right to feel comfortable. We’ve all met someone who dislikes someone or something so much that it can’t do no good. I’ve met someone who I could say, “oh wow, it’s a beautiful day today”. They respond, “don’t tell me to be happy!”. I’m like, “I didn’t tell you to do anything”. . . . “Well that’s what I heard!” True story. I was helping and rehabilitating a homeless meth addict. So you can’t reason with someone else’s emotion and their feeling should not dictate law and infringe on other people’s rights.
@VelkanAngels
@VelkanAngels Ай бұрын
Very well put!
@delilahrichardson6716
@delilahrichardson6716 Ай бұрын
True
@MacroMark1
@MacroMark1 Ай бұрын
The L, G, and B have very little to nothing to do with the T. It's not a community at all, and unfortunately it is being hijacked by the T and the rest of the alphabet.
@Melodysupporter
@Melodysupporter Ай бұрын
Well said!!!
@patof72clune51
@patof72clune51 Ай бұрын
Gay is being happy..... You are not "gay" as it's not about sexuality.
@TroyWill-wo8rc
@TroyWill-wo8rc Ай бұрын
I had a guy ask me if I was gay ? I said why arent you happy ? THE END. I also have a dictionary when the word gay only meant happy,merry.
@user-rb3zh6sz1b
@user-rb3zh6sz1b Ай бұрын
Stole a lovely descriptive word, now they've stolen the innocent rainbow 🙄
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Ай бұрын
@@user-rb3zh6sz1bthey are attempting to steal reality and sanity. We must do something.
@Summer21.
@Summer21. Ай бұрын
There are certain other LGB people (me included) who are indeed happy, nor do we want attention 24/7, nor do we want special rights, nor silencing the rest of society, nor behaving like the TQ+ grooming cult do and other far left LGB people do. 😃
@nemanjastankovic4439
@nemanjastankovic4439 Ай бұрын
Happened to me dozen times when I was younger and lifted weights and had long hair. I always answered : "No".
@michaelxz1305
@michaelxz1305 Ай бұрын
that's queer... (sorry, couldn't resist)
@VopiscusGuitar
@VopiscusGuitar Ай бұрын
Where's the question mentioned in the clickbait title? Yeah, I fell for it. I watched the whole video. I'm publicly flogging myself
@CrypticCL
@CrypticCL Күн бұрын
Agreed. In my case I was suspicious in advance, so I skipped through to watch just the clips of Jordan speaking. Have now made a mental note to avoid, "Millionaire Mentor"
@CyberRabid.
@CyberRabid. 24 күн бұрын
"Transgenderism is natural evolution" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 We're doomed!
@cameronhesketh6814
@cameronhesketh6814 Ай бұрын
That JP interview or discussion is quite an old one, the most incredible part of that discussion was the gay so-called professor, stating with a straight face, that there is no such thing as biological sex, and that anyone who thinks that or believes it is a fool. The gay professor then goes on to lecture Peterson about learning and to be willing to educate yourself about the truth! How arrogant can you be. The gay professor also states he is right because he is, quote, "An historian of medicine", as if that is relevant at all to the discussion of that panel. Pretty much saying, "Oh I'm an historian of medicine, so I know more than you do about trans issues, and biology". Really, how can you be that arrogant? Needless to say, JP after all this became super famous and influential, super rich, and gay so-called professor, and self-appointed historian of medicine, sank into notorious obscurity.
@lessharratt8719
@lessharratt8719 Ай бұрын
Perfect.
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Ай бұрын
I love this essay!❤
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Ай бұрын
So accurate.
@icedriver2207
@icedriver2207 Ай бұрын
Its an appeal to authority a specific type of Logical Fallacy
@VelkanAngels
@VelkanAngels Ай бұрын
How is it even possible to be gay and not believe in biological sex? Like... how?
@taniagarciaduenas48
@taniagarciaduenas48 Ай бұрын
😂There's a proverb from my old grandfather: it's better to say a bad word to let off steam than to get into a fight. 😅😅
@nemanjastankovic4439
@nemanjastankovic4439 Ай бұрын
Was your father Samurai ??? Joke aside yep wise thing to say.
@gordiebrooks
@gordiebrooks 28 күн бұрын
Hopefully when Trudeau loses government this will all revert back to how it used to be in this garbage will end
@elegantlady8312
@elegantlady8312 25 күн бұрын
She compared racial slurs to changing pronouns? 🤔
@pegatheetoo1437
@pegatheetoo1437 Ай бұрын
Their fantasy is NOT my reality! I calls it as I sees it!
@sarralemon
@sarralemon Ай бұрын
I will never use pronouns to identify someone.
@Randoverse
@Randoverse Ай бұрын
What about nouns?
@Grace-tc1lq
@Grace-tc1lq 29 күн бұрын
I agree. I object to being told how to speak when I am educated person and am quite aware of the proper English Language. I will not be bullied into doing something that I am not comfortable with.
@felixgarnet
@felixgarnet 27 күн бұрын
You do that all the time. Or do you never use rhe,words "he" or "she"?
@TerryProthero
@TerryProthero 26 күн бұрын
You probably mean that you won't use someone's "preferred pronouns". You likely use pronouns all the time.
@Randoverse
@Randoverse 26 күн бұрын
@TerryProthero You know what they mean, but you correct it anyway.
@JJ-nh8lv
@JJ-nh8lv Ай бұрын
I will not allow anyone to tell me how to think or feel or speak. Unless that person is the Supreme example of right and wrong.
@kurono77
@kurono77 Ай бұрын
These people claim that disagreeing is the same as being attacked and makes them feel unsafe, yet they're trying to bully and force the masses to accept their own delusions as scientific and linguistic fact! Lol
@evenberg8499
@evenberg8499 Ай бұрын
I was listening to this in the background, and I thought Jordan was debating a smurf.
@dorothymoxham7520
@dorothymoxham7520 22 күн бұрын
Hahahahah
@THillick
@THillick Ай бұрын
Imagine a trans/homosexual that wasn't a needy narcissist.....
@elitist07
@elitist07 Ай бұрын
They wouldn't exist. They'd just be gay or lesbian and that's it hahaha😂
@nataliejane9241
@nataliejane9241 Ай бұрын
There are some out there, but not many in the public sphere. Not trendy to be alphabet soup unless you're also creepy or liberal.
@joannem3568
@joannem3568 Ай бұрын
When hell freezes over
@JJ-nh8lv
@JJ-nh8lv Ай бұрын
Their out there. I know of some who are not fans of this foolishness.
@THillick
@THillick Ай бұрын
@@nataliejane9241 Yeah, I keep thinking that, never works out that way.
@RobinThomas-kp6gp
@RobinThomas-kp6gp Ай бұрын
Thank you! : wonderful, incredibly important and appreciated. Absolutely love jordan peterson's beautiful gift of articulating our truths, and compassionately to boot!❤
@burntgod7165
@burntgod7165 25 күн бұрын
This ideology is, fortunately, crumbling, especially in the UK. Last week, the Cass Report was another nail in its coffin. If you’re outside the UK, check out the report.
@user-rb3zh6sz1b
@user-rb3zh6sz1b Ай бұрын
How are they being targeted? They have become a protected species 😂
@christinebeames712
@christinebeames712 Ай бұрын
If they say 2+2=5 you had better agree or be punished
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Ай бұрын
This!!! Yes I could teach my child any language while face to face in our own space(even a false math problem solution😂). Yet I cannot force anyone to speak that language with my child or teach them to assume people should or will need to learn that language out of our “space”. That would be arrogant and ignorant. It is not that same to say “you can’t say that (true) thing” , then it is to say “you better say this (false) thing!!” They want us to deny reality. 👏👏👏👏👏
@jojofarley4511
@jojofarley4511 27 күн бұрын
When i grew up this was private and personal. I find it ridiculous a person has to call another a word that should not matter.
@lechenaultia5863
@lechenaultia5863 23 күн бұрын
Martin Luther King and George Orwell both spinning in their graves.
@whiteshark0000
@whiteshark0000 Ай бұрын
Oh it's always safety ....well i am concerned about the safety of children
@jayhanson-hs5vg
@jayhanson-hs5vg Ай бұрын
which is a real thing . their minds and spaces . this needs to be against the law
@Scottssly
@Scottssly Ай бұрын
Children are our future. Treat them well ❤
@susandrydenhenderson6234
@susandrydenhenderson6234 Ай бұрын
It’s not been illegal to speak Gaelic in Ireland since the year 1494. Is that woman’s mother really that old?
@margaretryan13
@margaretryan13 Ай бұрын
Its a pity that outrageous statement wasnt challenged.
@louiseparker1915
@louiseparker1915 27 күн бұрын
The ginger man almost said "queer." 🤣
@jonathanmack5474
@jonathanmack5474 Ай бұрын
The better question is : Should it be against the law to hurt someone's feelings?
@user-rb3zh6sz1b
@user-rb3zh6sz1b Ай бұрын
No it shouldn't, because all people find different things to be hurt about, can't protect everyone's feelings by law, it's ridiculous, but the way things are going, I'm sure it'll be against the law soon to even think.
@snakeman9902
@snakeman9902 Ай бұрын
​@user-rb3zh6sz1b It all ready is. However, like you said, it's subjective.. What I would find offensive can fall on deaf ears, what the other side of the polar spectrum may find offensive, is taken seriously, and may be found offensive. This could lead to a jail sentence.
@kittycat8222
@kittycat8222 Ай бұрын
No anyone could cry foul and that’s insane.
@nemanjastankovic4439
@nemanjastankovic4439 Ай бұрын
Then I guess if girls hits on me and I'm not interested it's either date her or go to court to explain why not. Won't bring happiness to her or me :P
@snakeman9902
@snakeman9902 Ай бұрын
Let's put it this way.... A person is sentenced for 2 years for putting stickers on a lamppost...criminal damage .(really) Destroy statues while the police watch, nothing. Old ex vets go to protect the statues, by standing around them, police get physical with the old vets.. Hamas demonstrations , clear racist messages on the banners. Persion guy holds a sign saying Hamas is a terrorist group, police 6 of them arrest, get physical and slam him on the floor, twist him up.. This bs is open to manipulation and abuse...were will it end..
@kaywhy245
@kaywhy245 Ай бұрын
In court we have to tell the truth. What is expected of us in court?
@user-gb3fm7ts3m
@user-gb3fm7ts3m Ай бұрын
In the UK, a rape victim MUST use "preferred pronouns" for her attacker, if said rapist "identifies" as a woman. That is a travesty, and it besmirches the whole legal field.
@joesouthborn2960
@joesouthborn2960 Ай бұрын
@@user-gb3fm7ts3m ... rape is now not only physical violence, but linguistic violence/violation too. Talk about doubling down. Why do I have the feeling this is cultivating the potential for the increasing vulnerability of women in society? The leftist alliance/ umbrella of gender/ race and religion seems a trojan horse.
@judyhano8277
@judyhano8277 Ай бұрын
It's not polite to call someone what they are not no matter how much they insist. It is very hateful to them to play along with their delusions.
@josephturner7569
@josephturner7569 6 күн бұрын
My preferred pronoun is THE. I also identify as a dining table. Guess what I'm waiting for?
@Solafein
@Solafein Ай бұрын
When did we stop prioritizing science over political views...?
@VelkanAngels
@VelkanAngels Ай бұрын
For how long was it the standard to prioritize science over political views, to be fair? Has it ever really been the case? The more I've learned about history and the more I've thought about it... People have always been like this and so has politics :l It just sort of moves in waves of severity. I can be reading stuff about ancient Greece or Rome and be thinking "wow... that could just as well be our politicians/citizens". I think we tend to glorify the past, as though people before colour TV were more mature, logical and based but... mneeh...? Y'know?
@Solafein
@Solafein Ай бұрын
@@VelkanAngels Yes, but nowadays we have the knowledge. It's different when you don't know what is right, in that case you have the right to your ignorance, but in my opinion we find ourselves in a dangerous situation when we lose sight of what is right just to satisfy an ideology. You cannot correct an error with another error.
@victoriousmaximus1659
@victoriousmaximus1659 Ай бұрын
What we have to observe is the logic Jordan P. uses to reason through the debate. He is highly intelligent and has a high degree of common sense.
@jonodevanney6464
@jonodevanney6464 25 күн бұрын
The person on the panel mentioning her family not being able to speak Irish Gaelic, does she not realise that is a perfect example of what legislation against speech can do? All this does is reinforce Jordan's argument here
@jonodevanney6464
@jonodevanney6464 25 күн бұрын
@Millionairrementor no thanks scammer, nothing for you here
@AldoNunez-ry3xt
@AldoNunez-ry3xt 13 күн бұрын
“My physical, emotional, life and livelihood is at risk for being here.”😂😂😂😂😂😂 stfu I can’t!!!!!
@sbeasley1785
@sbeasley1785 Ай бұрын
As always the only sense comes from Jordan Petersen.
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