Jordan Peterson: What low-status highly creative men need

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[@samiredale5173]

“The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.” - Chinese proverb.

[@Chessbox09]

That was great, thanks

[@zaku2pilot195]

Lol the 2nd part is critical. This phrase is usually written with 2nd part left out

[@wildmangeorgesrcchannel6916]

Do you post this on all his videos? I swear iv seen this comment a time or two before on his videos

[@samiredale5173]

I may have posted this a couple of times. It's one of my favorite sayings.

[@dinoplaza4556]

2nd best time is 19 years ago

[@Knowledge_Nuggies]

I started watching this video as a low-status highly creative man. At the end of this video I became a lobster.

[@stuartkynoch7289]

Clean up your room now Bucko!

[@acebone2]

yeah - it's a load of crab really

[@JordanPeterson.]

@@acebone2 your a load of crap

[@JordanPeterson.]

@@acebone2 your face is ugly too

[@acebone2]

uh wauv u' guys - u are so sharp and intelligent and u weally hurt my feeeelings :)

[@hoodoo2001]

I lost everything when I was 42, divorce (no misconduct on my part except that I never could be enough for my wife), job, everything. However I had written a history book and some folks really wanted me to come to their town some 200 miles from where I lived so I would participate in their living history hobby. They recommended me to a District Attorney and he hired me. My second life started, from there and led to a career that gave me a retirement and I had more fun after that than I ever had in my younger years. I never remarried and eventually won back my kids, not through the law but through love. The history book was a niche book and barely paid back my expenses in writing,,,,but it laid the groundwork for me getting a new career.

[@proggerjohn]

@Luke Farrugia Yes I agree. He did have luck indeed. But as we often see (but not always) with luck.... -> Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. Also, he made part of his luck: He didn't have to travel 200 miles and participate in that event, but he did. He also must have been polished or charismatic enough to be referred to the DA and then get hired. Those things don't just happen at the snap of the fingers.

[@cmull6528]

"... eventually won back my kids, not through law but through love." I love this.

[@Likexner]

@@cmull6528 But what does that actually mean? What does he mean by "won them with love"? Does that mean showing the kids he is not the bad man his ex made him to be in their minds or does it mean he had to simp for the ex even after they supposedly werent together just to see his own kids? The whole premise is disgusting. Its not ok that women can just take away a mans kids.

[@artofminh]

Thank you for sharing your story. This helped me. :)

[@Angelofdeth20]

Good work my friend!

[@harenterberge2632]

For many creative people using this creativity is very rewarding on it's own, independent of the social or economic outcome. Working your way up the hierarchy requires time and energy that cannot be spent on creative activities, which is experienced as a loss.

[@tushar8998]

Agree!

[@vlogcity1111]

Only creatives who are moderate to low on conscientiousness. High conscientiousness would use it to help others and by default economic gain

[@theunwantedcritic]

This is ridiculous. Everything is made by creative people. That’s literally what the word means. products and the packaging of those products are all done by creative people. Engineers , architects, photographers etc. Advertising agencies and public relations firms figure out ways to market those products. So I think when he says creative he means people who make paintings for Art galleries. A moderately successful fine artist who is going to be making couple of million dollars a year if they are productive. So the trick is to treat creativity has the business that it actually is. I’m not even sure what the hell Peterson is talking about. But that negative attitude stops a lot of creative people from actually being successful.

[@harenterberge2632]

@@theunwantedcritic You can get reasonable paid as an engineer, scientist, etc. However, moving up the hierarchy means becoming a manager. For most creative people this is not much fun.

[@CasperVanLaar]

@@harenterberge2632 do you mean a full time manager? Because in my eyes/where i live that is by no means high up the social ladder

[@M6BrokeMe]

My wife called me a 43 year old loser. I was so happy when I turned 44.

[@Tore_Lund]

My youngest daughter at age 6 called me a looser, when she discovered that working a hotdog stand wasn't the most attractive job on earth.

[@markorendas1790]

MY EX SAID I WAS NARCISSISTIC BUT SHES A PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE SO THAT MUCH SHOULD HAVE BE EXPECTED...

[@_Siptah]

Damn 😓

[@FlyUnicornsFly]

Need a new wife. NEVER put up with that.

[@BirdTurdMemes]

Harold Hecuba was a joke

[@brendencannon3583]

low status highly creative men need: a synthesizer

[@ale333kost21]

[@gabrielamaral936]

: D

[@oldschoolcockneylover8138]

THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEM THOUGH! lol I love music and am a hopeless musician but it didn't stop me playing trombone guitar and piano for 10 years plus! I can play pieces by other people pretty well but if it wasn't for the therapy of music I would of killed myself by now! I prefer the company of Gershwin, Louis Armstrong, Jimi Hendrix then real life friends!

[@liamdoyle8680]

You're damn right. *Pyew-pyew-zip-zoot!*

[@icareg]

V O L C A

[@robertmacdonnell258]

I have a friend who has fascinating encyclopedic knowledge; his wife characterizes his wonderful ability by saying: "You know everything there is to know about anything that doesn't make money."

[@caleblehmann9538]

I can relate to that, it’s not that it dosent make money it’s that someone’s else has already found a way to make money out of it in some nile way

[@rizwanakarizzy8771]

@@caleblehmann9538 no he can make money even if there’s competition, the problem is he actually only likes knowledge and doesn’t want to commit to one thing

[@Skeo5]

​@@rizwanakarizzy8771 I also suffer from that, I am only driven by acquiring knowledge without any particular interest in capitalizing on it. How can one overcome not wanting to commit to anything?

[@rizwanakarizzy8771]

@@Skeo5 it’s really really hard, I’m battling it for 8 yrs now. I think important thing is to be patient while finding the one thing. Family can really help as well, because then maybe you pick one thing but not fully satisfied but still it can be profitable. But if u really want to find one thing, follow God first, give in, then find one place where you want to live forever, then do that one project or multiple in that one place.

[@yeboscrebo4451]

That’s sad. Thats how the woman drags the man into the toils of this prison planet. Adam was cursed to hard labor “by the sweat of his face” because he “hearkened to his wife”. Don’t pay attention to the siren song of that creature the woman.

[@Orius25]

Agree with most of this, except for the part that if you are missing most of the pillars at age 40 you're screwed. Yes it's true, it takes a lifetime to develop really strong pillars, but middle age is often when people get a reality check that the life they've been living up until then is completely wrong for them and they go through (sometimes catastrophic) restructuring. I'm a creative, open person and the "dominance hierarchy" approach doesn't work for me. I've lived in monasteries as an ascetic, a so-called outcast: no friends, family, job, money, career, aspirations, etc. Then flipped it around later and got "all the things" that the dominance hierarchy says you should have. I recently read a Harvard paper on the function of introverted outcasts and they serve as an evolutionary niche that preserves the species when the group-oriented people all follow a similar path and face destruction. We need to stop devaluing people who don't play the game. Yes it's true, some of those people suffer terribly and don't want to. Others choose not to play the game and they're fine the way they are. I question of the hierarchical model is really seeing these people clearly. My uncle was a recluse for 25 years, same low level job, no friends, didn't talk to family, no intimate relationships. No substance abuse problems though. Anyway, he was found dead in his home by a neighbour which was tragic, but his home was filled with self-made art and other projects he never told anyone about. He was a nobody on the dominance hierarchy -- non-existent. But he led a life that was meaningful to him. There are real, modern hermits in the world who don't want anything to do with anything. They might still hold a job and have a basic outward survival structure but that's it.

[@PeacefulBliss808]

This is a really inspiring comment. Thank you for sharing. I'd never actually heard of the dominance hierarchy before this and now I'm going to look into it! And it makes me feel at peace knowing it's ok if I don't fit into it. 😂

[@wepsar]

Can you tell more about the art and other projects?

[@danielmccarthy2445]

You really have found some interesting info regarding something I've been struggling with my whole life. I'd really appreciate any sources you could share. Thank you.

[@helligevaar]

I am glad someone said something like this in the comments. It is interesting enough that this type of person in Traditional Hinduism could be considered high caste in the hierarchy system (Brahmin), of course as long as they are Hindu.

[@Orius25]

My uncle was a hermit who never had anyone over to his home. We would see him for Christmas and maybe once more in the year, but that was it. When we visited his home after he died, it was filled with fine art type stuff. He learned how to sculpt, quite well I might add; also did a lot of intricate paintings. There were musical instruments there as well, and none of us knew he could play any music. Why would someone with these talents not showcase them? We can only guess. Maybe they were for his private hermitage only? Maybe he had low self-esteem. Maybe he just didn't care. I think of Tibetan monks who spend days, sometimes weeks making sand mandalas only to brush it away later. Not everything in the world is about productivity and advancing one's position on the hierarchy. I agree with Peterson in a general sense. There are a lot of drop outs who don't live intentional lifestyles, and just sort of devolve to the lowest common denominator. This is true. I just feel that it's worth parsing that out a little bit more clearly if you're going to give what is tantamount to a gospel about reclaiming one's place in the dominance hierarchy. I myself am not a hermit, but have lived a cloistered lifestyle many times in my past. I am also connected to hermits through online communities. Modern hermits are redefined. Many live in cities and maintain basic survival functions, but otherwise cloister themselves in an intentional way. Some are spiritual and devotional. Some just prefer their own company. How does their human value factor into the dominance hierarchy? Sure, they go to work and pay taxes I guess... but they are not exactly advancing the human race, are they? Peterson is a big fan of Jung, and Jung himself said that human archetypes play out over and over throughout all time. Those archetypes include the hermit, the recluse, the outcast, the ascetic, the secret priest(ess). I would love to hear Peterson expound on this a little more. I am not a psychologist so perhaps I am wrong, but I suspect that I am observing a pitfall of psychology here. Modern psychology is utilitarian in that it tries to mend dysfunction so that a person can rejoin the world. Whether it's psychoanalysis, CBT, or other modalities, it all involves discursive analysis of internal narratives through therapeutic discourse. Those narratives get reframed, and then the person joins the world. It's the hero's journey to becoming a warrior, and then they rejoin the world. There is so little attention paid to the story of the pilgrim on a spiritual journey to enlightenment. That's probably because enlightenment gives you absolutely nothing materially, and its finality is abstract. Yet there are individuals who are compelled to take that path. I feel that modern psychology is ill equipped to address this, and it's the reason why I ended up living in monasteries after abandoning "therapy". Western discourse on personal integration doesn't seem to give much attention to spiritual matters because unfortunately it is still too rooted in Enlightenment principles. I may be wrong and welcome disagreement. Peterson's view seems to be about balancing the sovereignty of the individual with the moral duty to society, and for most people that's probably a worthwhile pursuit; but some humans have no meaningful moral duty to society, and not all of them are "antisocial". P.S. I write a lot but I type fast. Plus I find this interesting.

[@maggot1111666]

Peterson looks 10 years older here props to him for getting healthy

[@Petar_star]

he only eats meat now...

[@siddharthraychaudhuri7250]

Healthy? Or fat?

[@Jurassicparkatmospheres]

Could also be the lens

[@lautzemain8907]

Meat and greens buddy

[@papi9305]

he looks fatter, but i think his hairtyle and clothes make a much bigger impression in this vid, at least thats how interpreted my observation which was similar to yours

[@floydhopkins7901]

Oh cool I'm actually not depressed, I'm catastrophically screwed.

[@danielmichalski94]

@Biden’s_Bro 58 bullshit. If you will not start, you will never get out of your situation. On the other hand, if you will work every day, no matter what is going on around, you will eventually rise up. Don't even try to catch up to those best guys - try to improve your way of living, make an art out of it.

[@JohnFoxx108]

Lol Sometimes JP has to be dramatically emphatic to make his point but there is always hope in his presentations because with knowledge comes freedom...

[@eytrix]

unfuck yourself

[@Jaze2022]

Make 1 small part of your life better like tidying your room. No joke. Then find another and make that better, cleaner, tidier, more beautiful. Choose small, seemingly unsubstantial things so you don't become overwhelmed and discouraged. As you do this, you'll find your life problems will slowly work itself out.

[@Expert1911]

Get a big stupid white board and if there is nobody at home to argue about decor, put it up and start identifying one or three things as goals, or identify what you value to help determine what goals you might enjoy or be valuable to you. Then just start identifying things necessary to accomplish them, starting with small tasks is required. You have an idea what the best version of you would do given any choice. If you can get closer to that on at least some of your choices, you're on a path that will bend more toward success.

[@willshad]

As a highly creative person, I have noticed that I only really desire human companionship/material things, during times of low creativity. A true artist is satisfied with only his art. Any artist that does it for fame/money/women is most certainly not creating art, but a product.

[@alexcarter2461]

Same, only time I ever think of settling is when I start running dry always stay in motion, relax for a bit and get at it again

[@nicholasacton2991]

I find the ability to make art as a product to also be a valuable thing. I spent days worth of time perfecting a base in a video game (Minecraft), simply for the joy of creating. I'm also an artist who works online and makes OK money doing it as a hobby. I must say that marrying the ability to create just for the joy of it and creating a product that people actually want is an entirely different skill which is extremely valuable.

[@pjokkenroll]

Hmm. I like that thought. I'm gonna hold on to that one.

[@MoNaqvi]

🙄

[@foodank_atr817]

@@MoNaqvi not very creative.

[@aarondaank]

I’ve spent many years dissecting my existential angst, and completely overlooking the practical realms of existence that need my attention first!

[@carlosf3421]

It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. Frederick Douglass

[@aresg9670]

My broken father made me a strong child 💪

[@cryptekwizard8336]

Ares-the-Aries - Fucking well said.

[@Islander185]

@Silviu Florin I'm one of the broken men. I don't know where to go from here.

[@brizey5]

Schools should do more to build internal resilience IMO

[@carlosf3421]

@@brizey5 Totally. Instead, they teach not to be stoic. Have you read the APA.org guidelines for schools. www.apa.org/images/boys-men-practice-guidelines_tcm7-249294.pdf

[@arhabersham]

Back in the day when he was “Jordan Peterson, the Grey” ❤️

[@manictiger]

And then he fought the Balrog and its feminist whip! Through fire and darkness! From the highest peak of the lowest mountain...

[@arhabersham]

Extending that analogy, the Balrog’s whip can’t be “feminism” because that's just ONE head of a MANY HEADED dragon of postmodernism. Postmodernism’s attack on the very notion of logic, science, and competence. Its postmodernism's outright attack on Christianity, and to the idea that “being” (despite its inherent suffering) is good, if we live properly. The Balrog’s whip is probably the plot against Western Civilization and humanity. “3rd wave Feminism” is certainly one of this dragon’s many (active) heads, but let’s not confuse correlation with causation

[@bogusmogus9551]

He was an 'alien grey'. Then he mutated into human form

[@andreasv9472]

Love this comment @alfredo!

[@rapperfreakquency]

Lmaooo

[@davidtop8989]

I believe this is why many creative people become teachers. It is a profession that allows them to use creativity in some manner. No teacher's lesson plans are exactly alike. It is also why administrative mandate for some particular set of curriculum is so detrimental to staff morale.

[@Fluffyduff]

I feel like that’s why I love being a teacher, even though I never thought I wanted to be one.

[@guybeauregard]

It's also a good profession to link up creativity with some structure and security. Win / Win!

[@scythermantis]

...and then the common core came along "those who can't do, teach"

[@theskyizblue2day431]

@@scythermantisBach and Beethoven and Chopin were teachers.

[@Tom-vq2hw]

Above a certain level of intelligence, you're forced to become a teacher in some fashion. Or go mad

[@westechcny5643]

"Are you as educated as you are intellegent?" damn dude good question to pose...

[@notsure1135]

No.

[@justinlee4754]

The six pillars 1 Do you have friends, loved ones, an intimate relationship, basically does anyone care about you? 2 How is the relationship with your family? 3 Do you have a job? 4 Are you as educated as you are intelligent? 5 Do you have room for advancement? 6 Do you do anything interesting outside of work? The more “NO”s the more unbalanced or susceptible you are to life’s chaos. Also if you add some destructive behaviour like drugs or alcohol then you could be in real trouble. He notes that this is not depression. If you have a lot of “NO”s plus alcohol you have real troubles. The order of operations is to address the pillars, probably in the order listed. Stop destructive behaviour as soon as you can. Likely by pillar 2 by changing friends. Then consider happiness. You can’t address existential happiness or depression if the state of your 6 pillars is poor.

[@nemooutis-marcusboateng7459]

These pillars are aligned with hereditarian. Your heredity is applicable to a good family background and thus good friends and family friends. Your psychic assets determine whether you do what you can or what you want and whether you have hobbies. Can you expand?

[@ShaheedMajid]

Good summary, thanks man

[@csr9183]

Solid, useful breakdown. Thanks

[@cryptekwizard8336]

These make sense, but they are all external factors.

[@alexeichenauer]

ORDO ab CHAO

[@maxon1672]

"Are you as educated as you are intelligent?" This is a concept I only recently started to consider for myself and my perception of others. Simple, but certainly important.

[@MrWalker1000]

i dont get it

[@BigTeddies]

@@MrWalker1000 You can earn degrees without being wise or applying anything you learn.

[@q-q-qiah]

Stone Cutter you can also have the potential of being wise but never got the education to get there

[@dennisgordon7767]

@@MrWalker1000 you need book smarts about how world is.. and u also need street smarts to understand peoples motivations and how to navigate certain challenges around humans. Being smart is good but if u cant use it apply it or help others w it then i think one becomes tired.

[@camilocarrillo2132]

"Education is no substitute for intelligence" Frank Herbert

[@chrisridenhour]

I'm 54 and have just now discovered creative / spiritual energies in the most profound way possible. It's never too late if you find someone to share that journey with.

[@GabrielBacon]

Before you were like a dead stick

[@stringbender3]

You smoked weed and did shrooms huh

[@tcehaus2600]

Im happy for you pal.

[@m3m3sis]

That Jung story made me cry of relief. I've had a diagnosis only for anxiety for over 15 years and no one, nto one therapist or anyone has questioned it. Now after a year of useless therapy (not angry at the therapist) I've found myself reading and learning everything I've found about HSP, Empath and C-PTSD and the best and most helpful stories have been Jungian and understanding that being an empath is just another term for being stuck mentally as a child. I can now discern between "empathy" which i now regognize just as people pleasing, my ten year career in retail was just fulfilling a persona people seemed to like as well as including a party animal and social butterfly when in reality I'm a bit snappy introvert catperson who just had a shitty childhood with kids for parents. It's empowering after years of wrong turns and deadends not to mention idiotic choices that stemmed from not knowing enough and having that childish ego, to find information that both reflects as well as seems to heal. A lot of work but drowning isn't as bad when you know where the surface. Now just start kicking like a mf.

[@MarcusDolby]

Worry about the practical before you worry about the existential. I really like that.

[@Illlium]

Am I the only one that took care of the existential as a teenager? Is this really *the* plague?

[@MrTrenttness]

I assume his barber has since risen within the hierarchy scale.... Great video..Thanks!

[@GENERALWACKASS]

truduae's barber is now famous

[@jonasdamion1627]

hes covering his recessed hairline which he has since gotten plugs for

[@mtoad]

He fired his postmodern hairdresser and hired one that's high in orderliness and has a clean room.

[@michaelrhodes6730]

MrTrenttness haha that is pretty funny

[@djtommyc.3678]

Proper computation

[@Eltonlin1998]

7:52 "You need to work on something positive and somewhat revolutionary, that's the creative impulse" - a paraphrase

[@nicklarsen3113]

I’m a low status highly creative man. And I’m perfectly happy with myself and where I am in life. 🙂

[@H0kram]

It's all that matters, man. If you know what makes you genuinely happy and nurture that, you're a wise man.

[@isaiah2810]

Same.

[@ThePhysics1234]

"you are not depressed, you are just screwed" ahahhahahahah

[@blkberlinetta00]

I shouldn't be laughing at that because it's sad, but damn, it's funny when it comes from him cause he's serious but right.

[@billirvine9078]

Ouch!

[@anthonybrett]

@Bryn Webster Exactly...Fight hard my friend.

[@wellHumouredCheetah]

@Bryn Webster God bless you man, I'm in a similar spot, tough (understatement of the year) but with room for improvement, so let's get at it brother!

[@danny5669]

LMAOOO i had no idea wht u meant till he said

[@tanyaelias7683]

One thing I absolutely LOVE about him is his facial expression when someone is asking a question. He's genuinely listening. How rare that is these days.

[@stopgotdamndeletingmycomme8642]

Obv very as u didnt listen to a word he said

[@tanyaelias7683]

@@stopgotdamndeletingmycomme8642 I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying.

[@LaurieWilliams-lk8fc]

He is, and even though his responses are lightning fast they are superbly considered, relevant and useful. Stunningly brilliant mind with practically zero ego and a great desire to see people do better for themselves and others around them. Can you imagine a trendy scamming pseudoscientist giving such consideration to anyone?

[@JohanScherft]

Why he wouldn't listen when someone askes a question? That would be very rude and weird also.

[@madthrasher88]

@@JohanScherft Because we live in an age where people dont listen to peoples side of the story/view point etc.

[@fadlya.rahman4113]

I found that misery can be addictive. There were many people who tried to help me over years. But I always entrench myself even more into my miserable life. I'm an introvert. The idea of having to live in a house with many people, and I can no longer do anything I like, scared me.

[@briancooper6608]

Some people love the pain

[@Nolliewoodasdf]

I have felt exactly like this for years. Even got roommates at college and after. turned out it was anxiety. I no longer feel like this at all because I take medication for it. Not saying this is the case with you, but it could.

[@elijahtaylor2834]

@@Nolliewoodasdf which medication do you take for anxiety?

[@realtaynali]

Familiar pain is easier thn the fear of change.

[@birkknut276]

@@elijahtaylor2834 heroin is great for anxiety

[@abdullahalbishr]

* Tips to Improve your Consciousness: - Sleep & Wake up at the same time always - Schedule your time: Make plan & calendar - APPLY THE PLAN - Every time you astray then get back at it - Do the Future Authoring Program - Clean your room - Organize your life - Get a routine - Establish disciplined habits - You have to find something interesting and hit it hard - You need to do something creative but you must learn how to discipline yourself - It’s an improvement journey that might take years but it’s crucially worth doing! - Higher Consciousness = Lower Neuroticism, Lower Consciousness = Higher Neuroticism

[@jlnbxn]

He looks so much better now.

[@alexanderrodriguez8420]

Julian Boxan yea lol he looks fat here and has a terrible haircut 😂. He def has stepped up is style now.

[@drucru4998]

When was this??

[@Durtly]

2015, this was the period when his health was at it's worst. From his various videos I think this is around the time he gave up sugar and processed carbs.

[@thomasdosborneii]

Watch Joe Rogan's talk with him, he reveals how he transformed his health.

[@alejandromolinac]

That’s before he got into the Keto Diet... he talks about. It...

[@theod2800]

intelligence + compassion + application of the tools you profess = positive daily experience and continued growth. Thanks Jordan

[@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman]

my only problem. how...how for 15 years (27 currently) have i known what to do but have never done it? the few times ive tickled the idea im proven right but i never go the distance. love goggins for a lot of the things he says one being when he said to himself once "man you just cant go the distance can you? nope you just tap out. you quit. you cant go the distance one single time????" facts

[@mirarstudios]

I know people who put their lives together properly in their fifties. The idea youre screwed if you arnt together now, DONT GIVE UP, manifest and create your life because you can and youre worth doing that for.

[@clear21light87]

It's worth pointing out that almost anything can be creative. You don't have to be 'good at' something. For me, walking in nature is creative, because I feel most alive, spontaneous, free. Some of my best thoughts and moments of pure awareness happen when I'm in nature. Creativity is a state of mind that sees good in something, or sees things in a new, refreshing or useful way. Then if you practise having a creative state of mind in one area of your life, it transfers more easily to other areas where you need help (from yourself).

[@PeteS_1994]

Yeah I’ve heard that walking is good for the imagination or just free thinking

[@VicSellsPeace]

There is still a parameter of creativity is. It is not relative or random, it simply means being able to create new ideas and doing something artistic with it

[@chrishayes5755]

not sure walking in nature counts as creative, even if you feel that way.

[@clear21light87]

@@chrishayes5755 Each to his own

[@TobaccoPancake]

I get your idea but if everything is creative then nothing is. Being creative is not just the ability to have ideas as all do. It's the ability to have ideas that only a few have! That defines creativity. It's definitely a bless and a curse tho. Love!

[@michaelh5967]

Being high in openness is incredible when you're young. The whole world literally feels like your oyster. Incredible possibility behind every turn, any moment could bust the whole thing wide open and skyrocket your journey into the stratosphere. But when you get older, and your creative plan never comes to fruition or starts making you any money, your life basically becomes a living catastrophe.

[@clerictamer]

Indeed, well said. Im feeling it now, screwed at 55

[@momoso143]

Yes....so got to pick something right?

[@Gardureth]

Very well worded, i might write it in a schools toilet, hopefully save some young kids.

[@rickjones4114]

Very, very true.

[@michaelh5967]

@@Gardureth 😂😂😂

[@Mr.McWatson]

Man... this is depressing because I'm kind of in the position he described, ie not even in the hierarchy, no real relationships or friends. The worst part is that it's a self perpetuating cycle- you put in effort, fail, effort, fail, it bleeds into other aspects of life until you kind of stop really caring.

[@HangGlidingSouthAfrica]

#nailedit

[@rosalienuxe7026]

ralroost einsnulldrei ❤️ I feel you

[@curtiselmore727]

There is still a way out: Incrementalism. You can do one thing in one category for one minute of one day, and you can build on that until your day and your life is full again. Aggregate growth gives you enough time. One can always take the first step in the perfect direction, of which there are infinity.

[@TheSevenoo]

Same here man I'm in a depressing shit hole to.

[@cezariusus7595]

@@curtiselmore727 well can you accomplish that if you are low in conscientiousness?

[@Fightdemon]

Jordan Peterson's like the father I needed when I was young. Hope he'll enlight lots of youngsters

[@andrewflowers6794]

The powers that be are villifying him. I hope the kids can find him. Even a negative spotlight is a spotlight though.

[@ceeemm1901]

What, your mom telling you to make your bed didn't make sense, but Jordy Wordsalad does?? Bit sexist isn't it?.....

[@benikramer5115]

I agree, but in this video and with that belly he had probably a fat liver too. (NAFLD?) Now, he looks much better.

[@yomega8336]

me and my group of friends (14 people) all appreciate Jordan Peterson and others like him, we have taken his advice seriously and all of us try to tell the truth, be honest, be courageous, and our goal is to make the largest positive impact in the world that we can. Im not saying Jordan Peterson is god and a perfect person, but I will say that his words opened my mind like nobdoy before him had, he told me that I could acheive my dreams and he told me that they are worth fighting for. I bet that if me and my friends got this message, many others have as well, so to all that are able to receive this message I say: The World Needs Heroes More Than Ever Before...Lets Save The World!

[@elgatomoscato230]

I really don't like to wear self-proclaimed titles, but this one I can relate to. A big issue of being competent and at the bottom of a hierarchy is needing to assert boundaries with people, otherwise you become a tool for people. You may be able to move mountains in your craft, but don't give all the benefits of your efforts away for the sake of acceptance from your peers who don't care. Either turn some benefits inward for your betterment or bargain with your competency, seek promotions and bonuses for your skills, don't do anything for free. It's good to be generous, but don't forget to cash in some favors for your own benefit in exchange

[@cheerdiver]

So true. 'Men get and forget' Being generous leads to being abused, once they get what they want the goalpost move.

[@jameshumphrey9939]

i live for serotonin

[@zagyex]

"Jordan Peterson: What low-status highly creative men need" Me: Money

[@Carandini]

Money doesn't fix shit. Not the important things. All it does is get you some distractions and let you kick the can down the road.

[@b.lloydreese2030]

@@Carandini if my needs were met i could focus on my creative projects

[@k1ngmackdaddy447]

@@Carandini Idk I'm pretty hungry right now

[@RatelHBadger]

@@b.lloydreese2030 "if" don't base your creative fulfillment on an "if and when" situation. You will drive yourself mad forever going round in self defeating circles "I wish I had more... then I could just be/do..." start with little steps. Get a job that allows you to live simply, and find a way of making money from your creativity. The Internet is a powerful connector for creative people, music, crafts, writing, videomaking, digital artwork, design... countless others. You just have to put yourself out there. It takes guts, but you will thank yourself in the years to come when your creativity is your primary income and not your hobby.

[@BooseJuice]

You’re more right than you think. I watched his recent stuff on Dr Oz. He said money is actually the physical representation of sacrificing the present for the future. You’re able to do work now and the money is the reaped benefits that can be stored up. So being given money will never be the answer, but figuring out how to be beneficial to the world around you, so much so that they compensate you-and that means everything to you, if you’re extremely high in openness. ✌🏾 Edit: typo

[@JustinBradleyPhotographer]

I'm creative. I started out as a banker and then owned my own franchise insurance branch. I was miserable, felt like I didn't belong, it was difficult to connect with my colleagues. Sure we connected well at work, but the whole time I was living a persona, one that society (for lack of a better description) built for me. I was not forced to do what I do, however growing up in the 80's and 90's, I came out of it as, success was a suit, tie and 9 to 5. But... I was miserable. I had one escape. Hiking and documenting it. Essentially I was a landscape photographer and did not even know it. I was simply doing what I enjoyed and got pretty good at it too. Growing up I was always told how creative I was and it wasn't in the "everyone gets a trophy sense." It was real, it was genuine, and I do know the difference. Lord knows people told me what I wanted to hear when after a few years in finance I began being recruited by other employers. Giving me a false sense of confidence that I was on the right path. I may have been listening to logic, but I was ignoring my heart. My passion is behind a lens and it took me 20 years in the business world to realize it. I found my place after failing not once, not twice, but 4 or 5 times. The thing is, it was there all along. In my free time after work and on lunch, I would create. It was a release from the psychopathic approach that in my opinion greater than 90% of the sales "leaders" I encountered. I "" the word leaders because I have lead teams am a leader in my local network, industry, and community. I can say leadership has advanced over the past 20 years, we are still coming out of the damaging tactics that were formed in business around the 50's and 60's. However in the past 20 years values have shifted in a meaningful way. Take for instance corporations and businesses finally recognizing the importance of emotional intelligence. Not all but of the better companies I have worked for, leaders who recognize the importance of emotional intelligence, like Elon Musk for example, experience a greater level of fulfillment, following, and success. The majority of "leaders" I experienced, had no clue how they were perceived and mostly ruled with an iron fist. Which simply doesn't work these days. These "leaders" had no clue how they were perceived and had no clue on how to identify the strengths and skills of their team. Had they known how to genuinely recognize strengths and weaknesses, I would not have wasted so much time on false promises and may have discovered where I belong a lot sooner. Now that I am a professional photographer, I am working with clients I would have died to have the opportunity to pitch to as a sales person. Byron Scott of the LA Lakers, 5 time Emmy award winner Tracy Smith, and a huge Nickelodean star who crossed over to CBS recently (I sincerely can't remember his name, it was past my time and age group). I can be myself and still be respected. Where as in finance and insurance, I had to take on this old school, very serious, very old soul, persona. And as an optimist it really went against my personality to try to scare people into buying insurance. I am about hope and dreams, not death and dismemberment. That's just part one was identifying my strengths and I cannot blame the "leaders" of my life. I blame my own complacency and closed mindedness. And the kicker is, I thought then I was open minded and I wasn't even close to it. The second part to that is order. To be disciplined doing something you hate, is extremely difficult. To be disciplined doing something you love, is extremely rewarding and helps you perform at your greatest potential. But why? You'd think creative minds would work better as more of a free spirit hippie type, but really applying some of the discipline and order can really benefit you. Order will assist you in saving your willpower. If you are just being pulled left and right, not taking control of your day, it will deplete your daily finite amount of willpower. You will feel lazy and not know why. Automating tasks and organizing your day, always yields greater results with regards to producing content. As such, I have discovered that some of the habits I developed in the banking world, really transmit well and gave me an advantage starting my own photography business. It's a terrifying thing walking away from comfort and a paycheck. To venture out and have the confidence that you can secure enough business throughout the year to survive and provide. If you are reading this and any of it is sounding like you. You have to take a risk. And to reduce that risk you must first identify your strengths, build your confidence and approach it in an orderly, systematic way. I wrote this in hopes of reaching someone who is struggling. To let you know you are not alone. Most of us do not fit in a box and if attempting to do so is making you miserable, you need to break out of the mold. Focus on what you love and try to find a way to make money doing it. The only problem is after your passion becomes a job, you will need a new hobby. Take care J

[@JustinBradleyPhotographer]

I know that he discussed the problems alcohol. I wonder what his thoughts are on Marijuana? I have been known to not smoke it for a year at a time, however I feel that the effect on me has been profound. He spoke of antidepressants being positive for some. I more of a holistic guy and found that marijuana was a great stress buffer.... Let me clarify what type of stress. Traffic, my a hole boss yelling at me for his mistakes, and basically all the stress that you could really do without. Instead of lying awake half the night still trying to get out of the flight or fight response triggered by stress. I could smoke a few hits after dinner (better before haha) feel my shoulders instantly relax, turn on a good show and once tired, I'd lay down and fall asleep in minutes. There is another kind of stress that I never felt like smoking when real stuff would occur. A death, a breakup, or anything really bad. I am fortunate to live in California. But I do recognize everyone is different, this just worked for me.

[@trantung2506]

Hey Justin, came across your comment and I must say that there is benefit in trying to do creative work during lunch and after work, and although I cannot admit I'm a professional photographer just yet, but I do admit I am a photographer and found myself being the most creative person in times that allow me. Thank you for your words that enlightened me. Only 22 years old, being wandering around with a camera creating things that have not yet made me any money, I knew that I only need to apply discipline and order into creating things instead of just randomly doing things most of the time. You shine a light on that. Will try to do better from now on and be serious with the creative "work" outside of normal job.

[@JustinBradleyPhotographer]

@@trantung2506 Absolutely! It all starts as a side hustle. When you become so busy with your side hustle that you lose money by going to work, well that's a day to celebrate because it's time to quit your job. Hang in there, stay focused and find a niche. I ended up in real estate photography and my new side hustle is KZbin and landscape photography. Hoping to do it again. Work my side hustle whenever I can and hopefully someday I can transition to KZbin full time. I wish you the best, there will be tough days ahead but they are much easier to deal with when you have a passion like photography. Just know, if you stay focused, you will get there.

[@Baptiste-hl7dv]

Your comment is unrated…

[@beorlingo]

Peterson coming straight from New York having spent some time at Seinfeld's during the low water pressure period.

[@benyewest]

This should have got more than it did.

[@Btain]

@@benyewest That it didn't speaks volumes.

[@jackblack-zv2vd]

Nailed it!

[@proggerjohn]

beorlingo At first I didn't get it. Then it clicked. Man, that was like 25 years ago! But good observation. I was wondering why his hair was that way. Now I have the answer!

[@jeffblade1350]

That is immediately what I thought as well!

[@ebaybasuki]

Many years ago the part that i didn't agree with Jordan was this the 'screwed' part. I was what he described as 'screwed'. But i kept going i didn't care. Got a job, got a psychology degree (already interested in psychology before JP was a thing) , got married got kids. Still play the guitar, play video games, volunteer here n there, have time for family etc etc. If you're' screwed' just keep doing the right things; hang with the right friends, quit the internet (at least 90% of it), dont be a perfectionist (that's poison I tell ya), get a job (or something productive) that gets u up in the morning, always finish what you plan to do, n finish it well, forgive yourself, forgive others, don't be jealous, don't worry about motivation, ignore yourself when you feel tired n would rather do nothing (when u got stuff to do), be grateful for everything n be ready for whatever may come your way. May God be with you.

[@ezekielmusa1734]

Thank you very much!

[@brentd2070]

Good advice

[@Hy-Brasil]

i don't think he meant screwed forever though. he did say antidepressants help and if someone is in that deep, they probably have a severe chemical imbalance that won't let them escape the well they have fallen into. they just continue to exist in a deep dark mental cycle that won't let them figure out how to escape. SOMETHING has to clear the fog. *TLDR: I absolutely believe someone who is screwed CAN save themselves...I've done it myself a few times.. they just have to identify the problems, find ways to fix them and make the necessary sacrifices to get it done. I'm proud of you that you were able to do this for yourself. Not many people can save themselves or even admit they want to be saved. that takes a lot of guts and determination.* Now for the long part (i wont feel bad if you don't read it lol) When he started listing those questions it actually described someone i recently met. he's a neighbor i just HAPPENED randomly to speak to, who just HAPPENED to volunteer himself to help me make some repairs on my farm. i assumed he was being nice, and he really was. but after that first day I realized the guy is a total drunk AND a felon who should NOT be operating heavy machinery. That evening after work was done he called and told me he was going to rewrite his will and leave me his whole estate because his family doesn't care about him anymore. His son hasn't talked to him in years etc. I was NOT excited about this news. He was absolutely out of his mind drunk(didn't even remember the conversation later). This was one of many red flags. My instincts were screaming at me to make this guy GO AWAY. I thanked him for his help, even returned the favor by taking care of his dog when he got himself arrested last week. the thing is, I'm NOT the person you go to when you have problems because I am not going to tolerate your lame excuses. I am NOT the kind of person you go to if you're needy and clingy and require validation and reassurance or like to whine about your problems with no desire to fix them. and i told him that person. I've survived several hells, saved myself and quite frankly don't have time for petty excuses and self destruction. His family absolutely cut him off for good reason. he was mad at another neighbor for "setting him up" and getting him arrested ...i told him no one set him up. HE was drunk. he agreed sheepishly. When he was in jail last week we tried to get in touch with his friends, and every single one of them had an excuse for why they couldnt or wouldn't pay his bail... if they even answered the phone at all (he left his phone with us....along with his wallet, prescription meds(he's diabetic and smoker), credit card, EBT, and all the pin numbers. AND access to his house.) the guy has only known me maybe two weeks tops. and he just threw everything he owned into my lap....... because he literally has no one who cares about him. But after talking to a mutual acquaintance..... she informed me that he's a really nice guy...... he's just an irredeemable drunk and everyone he knows is fed up with him. She went on to say his parents created the mess by favoring his brother. All three are dead now. its just him and his dog. It's pretty sad. he's the kind of guy you read about in the news who is found dead in his home months later. I feel like he's drowning and grasping for anything or anyone, and it just happens to be me and my family this week. unfortunately in the past he has set himself up to be used and thrown away, he's that desperate for someone to care about him. The only good thing about this situation is I have no desire to use anyone. i'm all set in life. And I absolutely intend to be a rock he can cling to in the storm. I'm not heartless. I'm not going anywhere...... but if he lets go (goes back to drinking, driving without a license, picking fights in public etc)..... well... I can't fix that for him. I won't be dragged down with him.

[@Christoff070]

Good stuff my man will benefit many I've copied and pasted your excellent words

[@nobay]

Congrats. I don't like hearing this myself being 41 and 'catastrophic'.

[@flyyorkcity5826]

I still feel like you can turn your life around no matter how dim things may seem for you. People go through shit and they have the ability to bounce back and be better than ever.

[@robertgolic212]

definitely

[@synon9m]

Word

[@mikeassayag8044]

FLY YORK CITY days go by so fast... if you change things very quickly it’s many months later and your life can be changed... keep pushing

[@highmotor_]

Depends on your age an health in order to be "your best ever..."

[@gozinta82]

@@highmotor_ Depends on your definition of "being your best ever" as well. Not all things must be grandiose.

[@ZENIGMATV]

It sucks that incompetent extroverts advance while smart, creative introverts struggle.

[@jorgek92]

that is what you call Dunning-Kruger effect

[@alix-mb1xm]

yikes

[@homehelper9273]

2:57 One thing to avoid. Alcohol. Good call.

[@laur2139]

It’s not ever too late to pick up some hobbies and activities you enjoy

[@codycollects3534]

I started collecting star wars toys and other toys too, it's a great hobby and brings me much enjoyment, plus they hold value and fluctuate in value like a stock market, very interesting hobby and has helped me not be so depressed Edit: my girlfriend mentally supports my hobby too, she thinks it's great

[@VincentPride1986]

@@codycollects3534 She's lying to you - collecting toys is fucking stupid and boring

[@awesomebillfromdawsonville9633]

@@codycollects3534 been there done that... get out now no one is buying used toys in 2020 at least get into mold injections customs or something more personal. There are millions of us toy dudes living the same bs existence. In sick of trying to profit of this junk and tired hauling it from con to con. I should have spent the money on tools or more music gear...its a dead end dude too easy to lose sight and your chick will long for something different

[@Illlium]

@@VincentPride1986 Yeah, fuck that business, real men collect vehicles and guns, the only toys that matter are the ones you can hurt someone with.

[@MrGilRoland]

Every time I hear this man speaking, I learn something new. Even when I rewatch older videos that I’ve already watched. Because what you pay attention to, really depends on the actual status of your life, and he has something to say for every and each status you might find yourself in.

[@LaurieWilliams-lk8fc]

"what you pay attention to really depends on the actual status of your life" - yes, and the reverse applies too. You implied that in your first sentence.

[@benjamincowen1764]

So The essential idea is.... To be truely wealthy You need to kill expectations and focus on what makes a life worth living by doing basic healthy things that give your life meaning without hoping for postive outcome only focusing how to get it done properly Not perfectly Making your life wealthy through meaning Thats true success Very excellent gold thank you sir J.P

[@drewyoung2102]

I had pleasure of knowing a few highly creative people. One guy wrote a jingle and sold it to coca cola for 30k in 20 min workand was content and not worried about future for 3 months after that. I envied his free spirit and talent but a good friend.

[@radutomas1957]

This is very helpful. I'm 35 and I can see very clearly what he is saying. I'm not drinking but I'm doing other stupid things. Anyway, thanks again internet dad. I've cleaned my room a few times until now and I'm up to do it again. Like Kipling said in IF.

[@exoticallovergirl]

Good for you 💕

[@pawelkapica5363]

shit this is exactly why I had it always backwards. and I thought I am so much smarter than everyone else (clear delusion or fantasy of grandeur or what its called) I always thought the existential problem comes first and how can I go out and do these other things if I havent solved the existential problem first (which of course I thought is the most important one, may be part of my delusion) and of course I ended up in eaxctly the place he is decribing here, unemployed, isolated, depressed, even resentful and bitter. thank god for some reason I always was interested in philosophy and psychology which made me watch this videos. I think there still is hope, but once you find yourself in a dark place it becomes real hard to find energy and motiovation....we'll see

[@VincentLaw3]

So how did it go?

[@ELY-qg2vn]

Pawel Kapica how are you doing? anything new?

[@nelson850]

Update mate

[@saddkat9495]

hope you doing great mate.

[@andyroth619]

The name of the game is "Get what you need or die trying." There is nothing else.

[@MvalzCreative]

My lack of vocabulary and confidence leads people to believe I’m not intelligent. This helped ❤️

[@samwebb5329]

This was me. I became self employed, making money from music, while studying my degree, having a sense of purpose and meaning does wonders for your life!

[@3ninjas599]

where can I peep your stuff bro? digital marketing strategist here and JP part of the reason I established my startup last year lol would love to hear some of yo sh*t man

[@samwebb5329]

@@3ninjas599 that’s great mate! Add me on Instagram @samwebb01 I’ll send over some of my stuff, would love to hear your success story too!

[@umbertouno]

Sounds inspiring. May I ask what it was that got you moving in the right direction?

[@ssuf]

I'm from Kenya, the first thing I do every morning is listen to new Peterson talk

[@david88va]

Him: "If the answer to all these is no..." Me: "It is..." *on the edge of seat with anticipation* Him: "You are not depressed my friend, you just are screwed." 😶

[@EastsideHilltops]

Would not take this boomer idiot too seriously. Make your own purpose...

[@Lavrec]

to be clear if you are 40 and didnt took time to get your social skill and money earning skill to a certain lvl, what the heck were you doing all this time? Its ok to be deppresed but its not ok to give up

[@metalwellington]

hmmm just as I thought. you fucked.

[@goodtogo2876]

@@EastsideHilltops oh yea, go and fuck your life up that way. I lifed like that and it was hell. Peterson saved me from that hell.

[@unknowingreaper6556]

GoodToGo 2 give me a break. He didn’t save you from anything. All this person said is don’t listen to him, you still find a purpose even if your late in life. If that’s hell for you I assume you’ve given up.

[@lemming573]

Start from the question "can you have a meaningful life?" Love how he'll hit you with that challenging question.

[@JM-jd7yp]

I always have a problem with dominance here. It implies that you have to carve out and defend your territory. What if you approached this with the view that there is no ground to gain. What if you just let people get involved with their meaningless and neurotic battles whilst you just get on with life as a creative finding beauty and meaning with the simple things in life. What if you cease comparing yourself with others and find your own values that give meaning and structure to your life. What if you just don't buy into it. Well maybe you will gain a freedom that those trapped in the hierarchy will never know.

[@FOURTEEFIVE]

Yeah but that's kind of impossible

[@LoveOneAnotherHeSaid]

There are many other ways to read life, beyond J.P.s way.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

Exactly. Stop playing a game by their rules that you suffer tremendously to win things that are meaningless to you, or if you play, you can only lose. Make up your own game, your own rules. Win at that. Win in your own life, not the life others want to impose on you.

[@stuartstevenson5341]

probably would be doing this myself, and i do in between distractions with that element called money. But i like your comment.

[@jamessullivan6224]

I essentially agree with everything Jordan Peterson said. But, I served 9 years in the active military as a enlisted and I now find life wherein I'm not participating in hierarchies to be far less stressful. If I'm an 'outcast' then being an outcast isn't that bad.

[@catcat4697]

Welcome to the club my comrade

[@keanowhitmore8009]

@@catcat4697 suhh dude. Lol

[@DrDanLawrence]

I find around 7:30 to be really useful, here. On paper, my life is fantastic: I am a professor, married to the love of my life, beautiful kids, homeowner, etc. but establishing all of these practical realities hasn't solved the more complex or profound questions for me. I find I am at my best when I am working on a book project like right now, or if I am recording an album or mapping out the idea for a new business or reading a serious book and reflecting on it - like Dr. Peterson says here, something creative but also at least somewhat revolutionary.

[@fire2fireable]

You're accomplishing more than 90% alive are right now, cheers

[@DrDanLawrence]

@StellarClick Send me an e-mail at dlawren1 [at] uwsuper.edu. My e-mail is public so I don't mind leaving it, here. I can try to give you some advice to get back on track.

[@adamthomas8077]

My choices as a younger man are haunting me in my mid 20s as I wish I'd have chosen to pursue my education further to have been able to engage in more conversations like this. Not to mention the obvious advantages of higher education.

[@zapre2284]

I went through higher education as a mature student in my late 30s...at 42, I'm still unemployed, 3 years after finishing a degree.... It didn't make any difference to me, so don't let that be a regret for you brother.

[@zapre2284]

@@isikcan1530 Fine art ....aka, an attempted indoctrination into woke BS

[@bjbpainting9625]

A younger man? Lol

[@yingle6027]

Just watch youtube videos like this, it's probably better than any formal education.

[@MissWyatt]

​@@zapre2284Depends on what art school you go for. Not all art schools are the same if you do some research on their websites. If you're looking for something classical go for New York academy of art. Fine art in america is VERY explorative.

[@Mike__G]

Rather than cultivate multiple skill sets to avoid vulnerability, I cultivated a highly portable, in-demand skill set. I had a great deal of freedom. When an employer or client became difficult to the point of intransigence, I could and did move on successfully. In each move I generally improved my finances or my resume.

[@resurrectingexcellence]

What are your skill sets?

[@Mike__G]

@@resurrectingexcellence I am retired now and I adapted the skill set to the demand over a 38 year career. It included analysis, design , programming and architecture. Technical skills later in the game included Unix/Linux including admin, Oracle databases - as a DBA, database programmer and data architect, programming in multiple languages, data modelling, business intelligence including dimensional database design and ETL, and somewhat later VLDB( Very Large DataBases) up to 30 petabytes and Hadoop.

[@JackHernandezGentlemanJack]

I work full time, have money to live at least. I used to be unemployed but busked in the street. I was hapier then than I am now, but I was poor and felt a bit unachieved. I know I prefer the feeling of achieving something higher than being very safe and secure. I'm highly creative and cannot wait!!!! to quit my shit job. I have stability, but I feel like a fucking prisoner.

[@jantran5349]

Well think like this mindset.. I rather die than not achieving my dream goal. With this mindset you fear no one in life

[@Death_Incarnate]

PiK lmfao this some grade a retarded shit. I’m guessing Nikola Tesla is unintelligent then huh? It’s fucking unreal how true the saying is how retards are confident in bullshit they know absolutely nothing about.

[@flyingjib]

I know exactly how you feel. I quit a really “good” job in aerospace manufacturing to live in my car and travel around with my gf. I played piano and busked for money for over a year and have never been more content in all my life. Made more money as well because I didn’t have bills or rent to worry about.

[@rey_nemaattori]

If you truly mean that, quit tomorrow and go back to your busking days..nothing is stopping you from pursuing happiness...

[@rey_nemaattori]

@@Death_Incarnate Tesla died poor and miserable, intellect and education alone are not a measure for success or happiness

[@biscuitsalive]

While Jordan Peterson was cleaning his room, he found a sense of style, a new haircut, a new suit, tie and shirt, and lost some podge. Just goes to show he listens to his own advice. :)

[@SfoglinoNASA]

Lol

[@user-sr5kj6ej9z]

Lul. I actually think he has a sense of fashion when it comes to his suit and shirt in contrast to professors who don't care about what suit they wear because it isn't their priority.

[@chippyismyson]

he lost weight because he took his daughter's advice on dietary recommendations that were drastically different to social norms

[@PsilentMusicUK]

@@chippyismyson I'm not sure his daughters dietary advice is all that wise. Eating exclusively red meat is asking for colon cancer in your later years. That's not to say it doesn't have psychological benefits, but I'm not sure that trade off is worth it.

[@PeterGriffin-in5ut]

he became rich that was it

[@rafaelmesquita9249]

This men is a well of wisdom. I´ve following his words for years and still he manages to teach me something new on a regular basis.

[@ENSOTAVES]

This man's advice is a great gift to humanity, in a very important period of our development. All I can say is thank you for your lectures and to all who propagate his ideas.

[@oleotoleo3414]

Not one detail. Only general judgements. Have you seen the video? I read No evidence for that.

[@LoveOneAnotherHeSaid]

"Our development"? Buddy, look at you, work with you, and fuc k off away from "us".

[@yatessnyder1490]

I feel this. I take anti-depressant/anxiety meds, but I know I'm not truly depressed. It's that my situation causes me to feel that way. Being outside/below the dominance hierarchy I thought was fine when I was younger since I never cared about looking cool, or watching sports, or whatever else, but not having a group of people really takes its toll. It also means less opportunities to meet the opposite sex, which has really negatively effected me. Not sure if its a characteristic of being an ENFP, but I also tried to avoid having a typical career working an office job, which ultimately led me to doing menial jobs and being very transient. Partly intentional, partly a symptom of a lack of good pillars. I'm getting closer to 30 now, and still struggle to step forward most days consistently. It's a very cyclical existence.

[@danielmccarthy2445]

You can totally carve whatever life you want still, it's not until the 40's arrive that it starts to get harder....you still have soo much time, just make a start a little change will do

[@l3goo00s4]

how are u now man?

[@Rudenbehr]

You can work towards a 4 year degree in STEM, Business, Finance, Accounting, or Law. You don’t have to be a wagie the rest of your life.

[@AliveNotDeadmund]

Yo, ENFP here. Ditch the SSRIs if you can, friend. They fuck with your body’s levels and numb the pain without going to the root. If you’re really struggling with pain, apply CBD where appropriate. Develop habits that get you outdoors and kindle your inner fire so you don’t need em. Get a dog. Good luck, you got this. 🔥🙌

[@ceeemm1901]

Forget about outside influences, work on your mind's relationship to them With your thoughts you create your world.

[@playlistjohnnybitter]

Focus on systems of improvements save for the future stay away from debt a man without debt has all the possibilities

[@storiesofintrigue1605]

That’s not great advice. One of the best things you can possibly do is get a mortgage and buy a house. You can have “all possibilities” and be paying someone else’s mortgage for 10 years until they kick you out.

[@portersmelser9356]

I needed this. I’m 21, and haven’t been able to save enough money to go to school for what I want. I better start taking risks.

[@MJ202020]

Honesty is rare and precious. Thank you

[@Phuzz828]

get out there and start failing and realize that those failures are blessings that give you the mental agility to go forward. Mindset is everything.

[@Dialogos1989]

Unless you’re a depressive type then all those failures end up In suicide

[@jauntdolofof]

@@Dialogos1989 😭

[@seawylietxus]

@phuzz82 I totally agree but to help people understand that mentality you have to go a little deeper, so here's a quick summary: before you can fail you must be willing to take risk which requires you to take action, simply having a dream board and hoping they will materialize does not work. So unfortunately many have brilliant ideas but are too scared to take the risk or come up with a game plan to take action, or lack the resources to start, even when there is willingness to take action. But I would encourage those to still try, since sometimes those needed resources appear miraculously after setting things in motion. After acting there are 2 possible outcomes, success or failure. Some fail even if they prepared, worked hard, followed a game plan because it wasn't the right time for a product or service, ahead of it's time or market is not interested in the technology at the current time. So now, if one fails the importance of learning from the experience to improve or tweek it slightly is one mindset, but getting discouraged and giving up is another mindset. So one must decide which mindset to follow in advance when the time arrives if failure occurs otherwise your efforts will be in vain.

[@davidtop8989]

Welcome to the growth mindset!! This is when you see mistakes as essential components for learning. It is also when you decide to define yourself by the wisdom you gain from the mistake instead of by the mistake itself. It's a tought thing to learn, but gets easier when you practice it. We ask ourselves, "what did it learn today?" as opposed to, "what mistake did I make?" Opportunities come and go, but wisdom comes but once.

[@warriorstyles3139]

Wish I would of found JP in my teens.

[@abcedjoe5336]

I'm in my teens

[@simonbennett5844]

Same here brother

[@americanteehee5699]

You are never to old to change something! If you have social media there are lots of sites where you can find deep posts! I recommend " Prince ea (youtube/instagram etc)/ psych2go on youtube // and subconsciousthinkers /spiritual.elevation on instagram and so on! :-) Take care

[@MrJackPeppers]

True man. I only found out about JP the day I turned 20...

[@1godonlyone119]

"I wish I had...."

[@braydenpotter93]

Jeez. This was very eye opening to me as far as the pillars and depression.

[@GetYossedLol]

I feel lucky to have discovered Jordan Peterson at the age of 19. Been feeling like a loser till now, time to turn things around.

[@gellister]

You've got so much road ahead, you are lucky to get these tools to orient yourself so early. I am in my early 30s which is still young relatively but I am using a lot of this man's thinking to carry myself forward after huge chasms opened in my life and somehow it's turning out pretty good... A lot of work but I am getting there. Believe in yourself. You got this!

[@ricardoveiga007]

Thank you, Jordan, for your lectures and advice. They go straight to the heart. That is why you are so respected and beloved.

[@Ab_someone]

I am 35 jobless, friendless, socially withdrawn, socially isolated, never dated, no relationship, Emotionally neglectful family, housebound.. so JBP's definition my life is a catastrophe. Only thing that is saving me I don't drink or smoke. In many aspects I am a lifeless twig.

[@svenp6504]

You can be transformed, if you want to be. There's plenty of time. I find JPs essential message very hopeful. You have the power.

[@joe-un1ky]

Plenty of people have turned it around at your age. Decide what you want and go after it

[@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z]

Is not smoking saving you? Try a little weed - thank me later

[@paytongutierrez5723]

Luke Rollitt weed shouldn’t be used to cover up hopelessness. There’s a good chance it will make it a lot worse.

[@timberland215]

looks like ur comment was a year ago. has anything changed?

[@andresj3939]

Super informative, I thoroughly needed to hear some of this.

[@neightneight1280]

It's surreal to find Legit life-advice: use it to better ourselves - and witness the same cycles of struggle being fought, conquered in others' lives as well. Kudos to Everyone on their best path! And paying it forward helps ensure more WILL find their way too.

[@charlesdahmital8095]

Q: So, What low-status highly creative men need? A: Carl Jung.

[@siyaindagulag.]

Ja. Let's play Shadow Puppets. Teeeheee... Whoa ! Hey ! Did Dr. P. say : "Highly" creative ? Well that also depends on one's position in the dominance heirarchy. How about , creative , a bit bored, and " Highly" broke ? , skint ? busted flat ? Or my favourite : " out on the bones of one's ass" So... my tip: garner a little resentment. It's good material for the creative if reined in well.

[@MsPotatobag]

Jung wasn't low status, if he were, he probably wouldn't have ended up doing the work he did

[@MsNay83]

Integrate your shadow self

[@charlesdahmital8095]

@@MsNay83 I do that a couple of times a week.

[@nightheist2191]

@@MsPotatobag he married richest woman of Switzerland (Emma jung ) who funded his research

[@Elaba_]

There are 3 types of men: those that can't count and those that can count.

[@imanol12345]

And those that make it count.

[@eytrix]

technically, its "Those who hear the call and obey. Those who delay. And the others", but i like your rendition.

[@Coneman3]

Owned 😆

[@tiefensucht]

I am the two that can't count.

[@juliusu6615]

Carpe diem hah, that’s funny!

[@jedielfqueen]

"Orderly Open people are always at odds with themselves" - This is me... An artistic administrator. I tend to over prepare new ideas and sometimes run out of time to implement them. Thankfully I have enough agreeableness to work well with partners who can reign me in... Learning the vocabulary of these personality traits has been very helpful to figure myself out. (Says the orderly open personality. LOL)

[@jjr6929]

Wow, after having watched his recent videos....and now seeing this one, it's crystal clear how bad his health was then .....his diet change made all the difference.... impressive!!!

[@MBeccaro]

I love every instance when he calls my life a "complete catastrophe" XD

[@citizen1114]

Some depression has an organic basis and some depression is situational. One can cause or exacerbate the other and one, once adequately treated, can alleviate or neutralize the other.

[@ufoclips1]

Mushrooms are proven to cure depression.i know.

[@ufoclips1]

Who said"enlightened"?the feeling of well being lasts longer than any other effects.

[@LuhLuhLawrence]

Such a strange thing to live in a world so advanced and this man articulates how we go about life & maneuver it.

[@stjepangojko1884]

I really love listening to that man. Even when he is aggravated he sounds soothing and calm... One of my biggest problems is inability to stay rational and calm when emotional. Hopefully I will learn not to lash out while under emotional surge, and deliver words in a calm and polite manor so they can resonate with others instead of looking like a mad man who screams and shouts incoherently.

[@huangjason6557]

It is great to see a professor actually listen and actively thinking about the problem that students came up.

[@GULLAHTV33]

It is refreshing

[@jeffhreid]

“Unvarnished life is dismal and desperate “ thanks for the pep talk coach!

[@TheJovialBrit]

I've been a singer, pianist, musician, writer and traditional artist for 27 years. I've been a digital artist, 3D model artist and sculptor, texture artist and animator, using said skills to work with games engines (including Halo CE engine, Source, Unreal 3, Unreal 4 and Unity), for 19 years. I also do a lot of mechanical engineering. I guess I'm mildly creative.

[@Dannepihls]

Great to hear man

[@basspuff514]

First sentence *”Where are you in a dominance hierarchy?”* That’s what I’m here for, this gonna be good

[@amfarrell42]

It ignores the fact that humans evolved in tribal gift economies. The guy who keeps bringing back lots of fish would still be kept around and raise kids even if he didn’t bully or dominate anyone. He should talk more about gratitude hierarchies.

[@geralldus]

‘Orderly and open’ - would explain why I have always been in a state of conflict with myself, yet still carry on being creative even when I don’t want to. - a helpful observation!

[@resurrectingexcellence]

Me too. High in conscientiousness and openness.

[@hazelhazelton1346]

Well, at least he validates my own assessment of my situation... On the other hand, I'm screwed.

[@holarc]

take heart. keep goin, reach out.

[@vtpoet5300]

One of the best decisions I ever made was giving up on jobs. Now I have time to be creative, to grow as a human being, and to help others. Having a job is to be a slave. Better to work for yourself and your community. Better to be free, even if that means having no money. Being freed from the chains of a job, means I am free to live. I serve my community and my community serves me. That’s living. Truth and love.

[@ivi7792]

wise words

[@daisymagnus306]

Congratulations bro c:

[@FOURTEEFIVE]

Where do you live

[@vtpoet5300]

@@FOURTEEFIVE planet Earth. What planet are you from?

[@FOURTEEFIVE]

@@vtpoet5300 I mean, do you have shelter

[@DeyRadiance]

As a creative and entrepreneur, I agree with what Peterson is saying here. I had holistic injuries and abuse as a child growing up. It took an immense amount of time, energy, and support to heal those wounds, and for the past decade through RADIANCE, have helped countless wounded souls on their journey of healing. Thank you for sharing this.

[@seanhammer6296]

Nice to get confirmation that I'm screwed.

[@rorypetke9420]

@@ProperGanderSaul self-help guru and sophist are basically synonyms, Bush understands fine.

[@seanhammer6296]

@George Bush Just now getting your reply. Cheers

[@seanhammer6296]

@Jared Kamel Ok, I'm practically screwed. But there's always miracles.😀

[@seanhammer6296]

@George Bush I'm so completely known as an anti small-hat-wearer that it really doesn't matter anymore.😎 But I think in this case, your reply being a year and a half after my original comment was most likely the culprit. But the censorship is really bad. Cheers

[@tritile]

It is the first time I hear about this link between high openness and "compulsive creativity"... and the misery you feel if you have this personality traits and are not creating something...

[@alexjcorona2605]

I wondered why Jung's psychology resonated with me so much. Thank you for this video which so quickly gave me a more fundamental base to work from.

[@JimminyJim]

It’s amazing to see how healthy he’s become since this. 🖤

[@GeorgeLista]

Guys, having a productive intimate relationship with yourself is certainly more important than with any other human... don’t think for a second that you need to be with someone to achieve anything in your life.

[@cameronharris6217]

Yet, everything in your life revolves around everyone else. Without them, you cannot achieve a thing. Welcome to the paradox of social structure.

[@anzusmaga8352]

george doesn't want competition 🤣

[@williampierce4513]

Truth.. that's what's irritating about when people hacked my phone cameras and harassed me telling me i "need to get laid" or "go find a girl" and all this dumb shit.. I've been married before and dated around. I'm fine by myself. I just want my health fixed. I do not give a shit about women. I would rather play with myself and read, tbh..

[@keeperofthecheese]

"Are you as educated as you are intelligent?" - damn. That's a deep question. You really can be clever, but not know about much. The best thing is to totally dominate one subject.

[@PaBsKb95]

Well my new morning routine is to watch this video on repeat 😊 thanks doc

[@SHNASTDOG]

"You're being ground down by the world." Yes I know. That's why Im watching. But let me send a message to my highly creative /low status brethren. The issues go deeper, as well as the solutions. Going deep into the mind is key. The way it perceives the world. The way it perceives the self. And the story the inner mind is creating. You are at daily war with your constant fears of the worst case scenarios, held static and imobile even when inspired, by limiting beliefs. Does that ring a bell? The world is not fair, or good enough, or sane, or righteous, but it IS malleable. Malleable to your will. Because you are malleable to your own perception and will and therefore the world around you is as well. What I see holding this type back often is a injured faith in the world. An injury to the self because of the imbalance, illogic, and vanity. But the sooner you can stop expecting anything good to be innate, the sooner you can stop lamenting the broken world, and stop reflecting it with a broken self. The sooner then you can adapt and let go of all pre conceived fantasies about success, ideals, and right and wrong. If you must steal goodness from the world then so be it. Sneak every bit of good thing that is kept from you. Milk the moments you have for the richness that is robbed from you by default. Re-empowering the self to be anything you want and do whatever you want is key. Diversify means don't get caught up in the preconceived idea that you are limited to a certain thing, or certain way, you can change, change now, change later, and do whatever works. The emotional side of this is a big thing as well. The emotions of creative people run deep and without adequate creation time, and isolation from stress in the broken world, these emotions will build up with no outlet. But one crutch is that many times the creative side is the only outlet. To really master the emotional depths and set oneself free from the ocean of pain, one must deal with their emotions in more direct ways. Instead of venting and purging them through creativity and other indirect behaviors it is essential to deal with them head on. Alone, or with a friend, talking it out writing it out. Plotting it out if necessary. But following it through until you are not running from anything anymore but facing every uncomfortable thought head on. Until you have bored of bad thinking and developed the path to resolution. Never accept The present or past as the final chapter. Write "and then" to everything. Because the "and then what" is what sets us free to be in control going forward. What we need is.... More money, no stress, more time, self esteem?, love?, and focus to follow through perhaps. But all of those things are very tangible things that can be manipulated and sculpted by the creative man. Living a double life may be necessity. Being just normal enough to make the money, stay social, stay healthy, so the creative work can be supported and empowered. Whatever it is you reaally want to do. If all else fails just purge your emotions, let go of expectations, and follow your heart. Do what you really want to do and just stay in your truth. Or whatever works for you. Maybe this is all just me rambling about myself here. Lol Take care!

[@MrDorbel]

Depends what you mean by self! Does it even exist?

[@SHNASTDOG]

@@MrDorbel Not everyone's "self" does. Mine does. Lol. Some people are NPC's and will have to figure out that one on their own.