JRE: Joe Rogan on 60% of Young Men being Single

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Joe Rogan discusses this recent Pew Research Study on why 60% of young men are single in 2023.
Clip Taken From JRE #1951 w/ Coffezilla
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Coffezilla
Producer: Jamie Vernon
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[@BAR-ct7ti]

The worst thing that ever happened to relationships, was social media.

[@andrewevans7992]

Actually its been the worst and best thing to happen, now we know most women are harlots and use men for their needs and advantages. No point in playing when they are extremely insecure manipulative losers

[@jeffisaliar]

Happened to the human race.

[@Tooldruid]

It happened to both. They aren’t mutually exclusive.

[@bdflatlander]

And not just romantic relationships but friendships too. Facebook was a factor in the ending of a long term relationship with my best guy friend of over 30 years. He always had a toxic side to him and our relationship was having problems apart from FB but some of the things he posted on FB finished off our friendship. We haven’t spoken to each other in almost 2 years and I doubt we ever will again. I’m fine with that.

[@perrycoffey5410]

​@@bdflatlanderdamn sorry too hear this i can kinda relate too this

[@patrickb6428]

I’m 26 and my girlfriend of 5 years cheated on me in November and subsequently we broke it off. I found out soon enough the reality of single life particularly attracting women and how extremely difficult it is to find a partner or even get a date on tinder. Let’s face it, the world we live in now doesn’t support developing relationships as it did pre social media days. I work 9-5 Monday to Friday everyday at home and my own few friends rarely go out. Modern tech has completely destroyed human interaction and women’s perception of guys. Man, how I envy the people who got to experience being young adults in the 80s & 90s the last decades of normality.

[@ShitBagSPC]

Yeah man it sucks. I’ve done some traveling a lot since being in the military. East coast, west coast, a couple of western european countries. Its just not looking good anywhere like the previous generation before social media 😅

[@aim-for-greatn3z947]

As someone who is 35 and grew up before even AOL was a thing.... Let me tell you life was amazing in every way!! From good music and people!! And guess what life happens OUTSIDE! I come from a household of men were it's 10 of us. I co.e from a time where people with beeper were popular and house parties was the thing kids would do cut class to meet up at someone home. The good old days without social media and honestly women were approachable!!! You could actually walk up to a female and have a conversation and most were polite EVEN while rejecting you (granted) not all but most. In the beginning believe it or not social media was amazing because it was taboo at the time and when I started trying it out rejection WASN'T A THING!! imagine back in the day I had a 80-90% success rate on meeting women "ghosting" wasn't a thing!! To this day those were really the best time to be a introvert or even a extrovert so much was happening. Nowadays I feel sorry for the generation coming up, as a successful man to experience what a "normal" relationship looks like I had to travel overseas 😂 I know multiple languages so my experience varies. Good times good times! To this day me and my group of friends constantly talk about how good life was

[@Birdsbees]

Literally.😢

[@ronyolo8419]

Go out bro, it’s fun, you’ll meet dummies but there are cool girls too. Enjoy that shit, the world changes you gotta get over it.

[@ronyolo8419]

@Falloutnewskyrim yeah that probably means you’re undesirable in some way lol. Fix it.

[@MegaRbase]

Modern dating is like having to work overtime and not getting paid.

[@johnfisher8401]

could you imagine dating in the 50s-60s? Must have been outrageously easy, married at 21 with a house and two cars working as a factory worker.

[@VoiceOfReason919]

@@johnfisher8401 yet some still talk shit on us for having it easy

[@ronmka8931]

@@johnfisher8401 seriously even getting a job to get those cars and the house was as easy as going and asking a manager for a job and they’d hire you on the spot. You used to be able to ask Women for marriage by meeting them for the first time. Holy shit boomers had it easy

[@alaalfa8839]

Some real nice women who are not brainwashed by television, feel deep love for her partner, for his charisma and wisdom and humor and spending time with him, holding his hand, feel his masculine strength, his charismatic hands, legs, neck, hair that its not just about sex but the connection and intimacy falling in love is not just about having sex falling in love means that she loves him wholeheartedly and therefore she doesn´t think about other people. She wants him to be happy because happy people fall in love with their partner. As Sam Vaknin said Love is the ultimate addiction, healthy addiction, therefore Facebook doesn't want men to fall in love with their own wives, because Facebook wants his eyeballs to look at the advertisement instead of looking at his beautiful wife. Therefore happy marriages are great competition for Facebook advertisements because the guy or wife is more in love with the partner than with Facebook feed.

[@user-360johnn]

@@johnfisher8401then you get shipped off to korea or vietnam

[@Lamtitude]

I have a friend who is a firefighter in his late 20’s. He’s handsome, in decent shape, and has had a lot of attractive girlfriends. He desperately wants to meet a woman he can marry, but the girls always play games with him. They never seem to take the relationship as seriously as he does. It’s actually pretty tragic. He’s doing everything right that would attract a girl, but none of them are ready to settle down.

[@awesomeness24158]

Tell me about it buddy.

[@jwithersooon]

Maybe the dude could start by dating one at a time no fucking wonder lmao

[@SurriSama]

​@jwithersooon The phrase "has had" is past tense and implies over a period of time in the past, not all at once.

[@andrewevans7992]

@@jwithersooonapparently you can’t freaking read. Damn

[@DaveHesterYUUUUUUUP]

Your friend has the same problem as me, we can't settle for 6's and only wanna smash 9's and 10's but those girls are all insane. Not one hot girl is a wife. That's why you always see dudes with these dog ass wife's 🤣🤣🤣

[@zerubbabelsbridge]

I stopped dating years ago after I realized I hadn't met an actual single woman in a very long time. Everyone had multiple partners in their phone.

[@okaySam]

Underrated comment.

[@timwidner8751]

This is my experience as well. Women date someone, talk to other guys behind their back, then leave for the "better" option. No loyalty anymore. I swear this is by design

[@jkfd97]

@@okaySam It's the price you pay for continuing to date/marry in a conquered, feminist society. Accept you are going to share her with multiple men or don't date/marry at all. They are your only two options.

[@MikeLee-x8e]

Imagine trying to explain to your great great grandfather that your wife has a magic box with a password that can fit in her pocket which allows her to instantaneously and secretly communicate with any man on the planet 24/7

[@fuzzytop4746]

One of my female friends who I now dread to even be around claims that she is a respectable traditional women yet she has already fucked 2 guys and has tried many more all the while claiming she doesn’t ever want to settle because she deserves the finest man. She is alright in appearance

[@LeeEverett1]

It's really quite simple: -Women are dating older more successful men. -Women are dating other women. -Some guys are dating multiple women at once whether the women know about it or not. -Alot of men have given up because they don't qualify as a partner anymore to ridiculously high standards. That's why there are twice as many single men than women. It's no secret that being an average normal man isn't good enough anymore, we have to become a somebody just to attract below average to average women.

[@Muscaplays]

Or men THINK they don‘t qualify

[@acornsucks2111]

Most women are chasing the high value men. Those guys got more trim than they can handle. Your average woman goes for the best, even if they are the third choice.

[@workingshlub8861]

woman are getting more masucline and angry by the day......woman are turning into men and all men see is we cant get it up ED commecials....no connection ??

[@pavlovsdogman]

Women aren't suddenly "turning gay" at a far higher rate than men. Women are more likely to lie in a study or poll where a stranger asks them if they are in a committed relationship. Women often think the guy they are getting booty calls from twice a week at 3am constitutes a committed relationship. Both modern men and women have been brainwashed by social media, porn culture and entertainment to see themselves as flawed physically, financially or psychologically. They're both acting insecure and selfish, we cant act like all of a sudden women are fucked up and that's the only issue at play here? Young men spending all day working out, avoiding relationships and listening to male "self help gurus" like Andrew Tate is a symptom of their obvious unhappiness and problems. We both suck but luckily the world doesn't need a population increase at the moment so it's not an emergency.

[@jasonwillis4819]

Not in other countries. I am a King in South East Asia - here... not so much.

[@christianshentsov8383]

I am 28 years old and I just decided to stop looking for a romantic or sexual relationship with women, because at some point in previous years, I realized i was spending too much resources on it and i didnt see any good result except for some satisfaction and a lot of headache. One year has passed and I can not believe how peaceful and how many things I was able to do since I decided just to dont give a shit about sex. My income in one year just doubled up basically, I took some trips, bought nice things for myself, I built better relationships with my friends and family and grow up as an individual as never before.

[@NotAfraidToQuestionThings]

I can tell you right now that by the time you are 35, you'll have them lining up to be with you.

[@mikeybronny6579]

Sounds like your meeting the completely wrong kind of person. You should be able to focus on improving yourself and your relationships and financial success. While having the closest "friend/ life partner " right by your side. Have an open mind. I found my sole mate at 25, while she was 34. Now I'm 34 and wouldn't have enjoyed my accomplishments even half as much alone.

[@parkservice6293]

​@@mikeybronny6579 unless you've been living in the East, it's a needle in a haystack to find somebody decent.

[@gotinogaden]

@@parkservice6293 Needle in a haystack? That's at least worth a try. I can barely find someone to have a normal conversation with, without them acting like emotionally damaged member of The Adams family.

[@parkservice6293]

@@gotinogaden to be for real, in this day and age there aren't many groups that call themselves boys/lads. Me personally I've not been in a group for around a decade, resultant of which now I have no real friends so nobody to talk to really. Luckily I'm good on my own.

[@RavenTD46]

I was married 15 years, everyone else saw she was draining the happiness out of me. She waited till I lost my job, and my now late father text me he had terminal cancer, she decided to walk out when I needed her the most. Now in my late 50's the first thing a woman tells me about themselves is that they are on their menopause.

[@Taxcollector9955]

Then she truly never loved u

[@andrewevans7992]

@@Taxcollector9955do they truly ever love us?

[@muhdiversity7409]

@@andrewevans7992 nope.

[@Destrudo5359]

skill issue choose bettter

[@kengaroo5170]

Narcissists

[@frenchfries2148]

Young men: “yeah, that’s accurate” Old men: “how could this possibly be? It’s shocking.”

[@Wittgensteinien]

That could be anything, the Economy, usefulness of degrees, housing market. Lmao

[@carljohnson6264]

As a 43 year old “old man” No, I see it, but I’m wondering why there are still so many “young men” simping to these girls????? And why do you go the gym for others , instead of yourselves???

[@abyss5883]

​@@carljohnson6264 old men simp harder for younger women, including my father who is 10 yrs older than mother. Always been the case

[@SG-mf1ss]

Because feminism and modern society have melted women’s brains. They have no idea what they want, and even if they think they do, nothing is good enough. This problem mostly stems from social media and it’s detrimental impacts all around

[@stevegaines3590]

i'm 66 & i don't find todays dating marked shocking...i find it sad & aggravating...seems all women today are basiclly prostitutes....they only care about 2 things...how hot is he & how much money does he make .. ? that's it....& PS...they HATE a nice guy...& this problem is getting worse....

[@bronsonnolan1383]

Went on my first date in over five years a few months back. She seemed nice enough. But the week prior we were supposed to have the date, but she cancelled and we rescheduled for the week after. Because she was going to see family in Toronto.....seemed odd we even set up a date for that week then.....but ok. Cut to the date and I ask about her trip. "Oh it was good, saw some family friends and stuff" So I asked if she did anything exiciting. "Well I went to the club until like 4am one night, havent done that in years" "Oh? with friends?" "yeah a buddy was visiting from Italy so we met at the club and danced" "How do you know a guy from Italy?" "Oh I met him there when I travelled and we remained friends" "and he just happened to be in Toronto the same week you were?" "Yeah...." Soooooo what I gathered from this. She cancelled on me to go to Toronto to see this guy and they probably hooked up and all that. No thanks lady. Havent seen her since. But isnt it strange how every man I tell this story to is like "oh ok I get it". But every woman ive told thinks I was too judgmental? Even my own mom. Like mom, you really think shes in Toronto the same week as a random pal from Italy just as a coincidence????? Food for thought

[@sloppyjonuts9162]

Most of these women look semi hot. And all they do is go to clubs drink all night and live for the weekend. Basically South parks version of parison Hilton. Lol

[@AtheismF7W]

You are spot on.

[@paulsan7058]

Smart guy

[@ServingChrist]

Brother, don't expect women to understand what men deal with or to take your side. This includes your mother. They will blame the men, defend the women and it will always be your fault somehow. Your instincts are right, you properly realized you can ignore their opinions. You want to find a woman who will drop everything to run and meet you whenever you show up suddenly. Next time, if a woman cancels on you, tell her ok but you have a standing rule that she will now have to buy you dinner. Don't reward bad behavior. It will separate you from the other guys.

[@mikegee8345]

They always tell on themselves

[@AlenAlic]

Hypergamy and feminism is a deadly combination.

[@JohnSkyLey]

Exactly

[@MHKing03]

Feminism is just hypergamy disguised as morality.

[@ThaiThom]

You got that right.

[@Exalted_Example]

By design

[@uncawaltsadventures1602]

Gonna kill us all at some point. Population declines will start impacting soon.

[@lanceballstrong5239]

If you’re a man from the States…you have to outsource. Dont buy local.

[@ivanphoenix8064]

Dont outsource. I am from Europe, I can tell you the things and all social issues you got in the States are now here in Europe also. It is a global issue

[@zerus4435]

​@@ivanphoenix8064I think he means even further away. Not europe.

[@andrewevans7992]

@@ivanphoenix8064not feminists countries pal

[@Andrew-iq5ud]

At least theyre not fat. 80% of women 18-30 in the US are severely OBESE. Its a disaster here bro. 9.9/10 women are BUSTED beyond belief

[@CherokeeCabinetmaker]

I hear there's a war in the desert round way of g a z a and war equals less hubbies! Spoils of war are divied mongst conquerors

[@nickbarber2080]

5 women think the man they share is their exclusive partner.

[@KFrost-fx7dt]

Who says they're with men?

[@nickbarber2080]

@@KFrost-fx7dt They do. Completely missing the point there.

[@KFrost-fx7dt]

@@nickbarber2080 no, I don't think so. More women are gay or bi than men to start with, and women qre more likely to seek relationships than men including gay men. So there ya go.

[@nickbarber2080]

@@KFrost-fx7dt I think you are letting your fantasies get in the way of the data.

[@tobiasmccallum9697]

​@@KFrost-fx7dtI can confirm 4-9+ of them are with me at any one time, depending on how busy I am. I work between London and Bangkok, so it makes it easier splitting things :)

[@joeyrivaldo5239]

In my Mid-40's, looking back on life, I've realized that the majority of problems, mistakes, regrets I've had in life almost always involved a women, girlfriend, wife, etc. Being single may be a blessing.

[@PT-zz9ks]

Single men are less happy, healthy, make less money and are more suicidal than married men. That's what the studies show

[@jschwartzmier]

I was thinking the same thing recently

[@Partylikeits-br7bb]

Right, must be the females' fault and not the one common denominator's ...

[@jschwartzmier]

Like the divorce laws in this country?

[@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available]

What about having children?

[@Answersonapostcard]

Basically dating apps and hookup culture, along with female entitlement have destroyed the dating system. A lot of women are seeing or in contact with multiple guys. So as a guy you can either enter an extremely competitive, toxic and brutal dating game, end up getting chewed up and spat out at the other end, or just forget about the whole thing. With the odds against men, I don’t blame anyone for staying at home, buying a PlayStation console, going off travelling, concentrating on careers etc etc. Chasing women is a mugs game. It is something that benefits women but rarely benefits guys.

[@CommandoMaster]

U get rejected for any little thing as a guy. Women have delusional high standards due to social media, and they don't value any one guy anymore. Flake/ghost on u for no reason. Women have too many distractions. It's super easy dating for women. Very hard for men.

[@norsketilbakeblikk3717]

But why does it benefit women and not guys? There are the exact same amount of men and women.

[@CommandoMaster]

Attraction is not the same for guys vs girls. Girls have value based on looks only, which makes it super easy for them with social media and dating apps. Guys need to showcase their personality/social skills to attract girls, which is not possible with apps.

[@Answersonapostcard]

@@norsketilbakeblikk3717 because the guys have to compete with all the other guys, the women just have to choose from an endless pool of men competing for the few decent ones left. It's a sweet shop for women. As a guy, the odds are not in your favour.

[@Wittgensteinien]

@@Answersonapostcard Dudes need to tone down the thirst maybe?

[@stoicreader]

Getting rejected multiple times makes you wanna quit everything

[@SeraphoftheRoundTable]

I've met a few guys who straight up told me they couldn't care less if they are still a virgin at 70 years old. That just tells how bad the situation is.

[@TheDragonKnight98]

Damn even Gigachad is getting rejected nowadays

[@jaysouthmusic8230]

​​@@SeraphoftheRoundTablethat's alarming man and messed up and im a virgin myself

[@SeraphoftheRoundTable]

@@jaysouthmusic8230 The fact of the matter is that's what they think. Getting rejected multiple times or living in a toxic relationship for so long will turn people off completely FOR GOOD! Some people do not want drama at all and would rather stay alone than deal with it.

[@PatrickPierceBateman]

For me it's an economic thing. It's annoying to try dating when you still live with your parents in your late 20s/early 30s, which most young people still do because housing is unaffordable and rent is just as bad. And it's impossible to think about starting a family when you can barely afford to support yourself on your current salary. The boomers had the luxury of pursuing romantic relationships because their jobs paid them a liveable wage, housing/college was affordable, and they felt financially secure enough to plan for their future. Our generation was robbed of that.

[@TheRubberStudiosASMR]

That’s exactly how I feel. It’s disgusting

[@JackCarsonite]

That's likely a factor but not really. It's HoFlation and Hypergamy according to the stats.

[@kaj7135]

@@JackCarsoniteYeah OP is partially correct. We need to stop downplaying how corrupted and incompatible most modern women are in relationships now. All they do is monkey branch to the next guy who’s hotter and/or richer. Their pair bonding capabilities are nonexistent these days.

[@Lvl2600]

@@JackCarsoniteyes likely. Plus what you said.

[@geelee2964]

Thanks to capitalism.

[@rickjames9564]

Yeah. As a 27 year old single guy in todays age, I’ve never felt more romantically alone. Haven’t been on a date for 4 years. Haven’t been in a relationship for 7. It’s sad to say but I truly don’t care anymore. It’s not worth the trouble.

[@daniellove162]

I’m in my mid 40s and can’t believe how many attractive young adult females I see walking their dogs all by themselves and living by themselves. When I was young these type of women were NEVER EVER single or without a boyfriend. At the apartment complex I live, if you throw a little party, all the single ladies bring their dogs and no date it’s weird to me.

[@lazygam3r183]

@@daniellove162 it's because a lot of them are dating "unavailable" men aka they are pining for a man who has multiple women and he isn't giving them a full fledge relationship.

[@phil7574]

​@@daniellove162 They are all getting pounded by the same 10 percent of men.

[@farmhandsj]

@@daniellove162 yup I commented the same thing. Social media has ruined dating. All the good looking women have some idea in their head that they are holding out for the rich and famous guy they are gunna meet on Instagram and get married to and instantly become wealthy. Good looking women only care about social media followers and climbing the social status ladder. Regular guys with regular jobs can look like brad pit yet have no chance of dating a really pretty women unless you have a bunch of fake pictures on the internet of you flaunting money and luxury goods you don’t even own.

[@deafsp_ce]

Im turning 27 soon and ive never been on a date. I tried dating apps in my early 20s and that just lead to depression from the abysmal choices so i gave up. Dating has only gotten worse since then. Id like a long term relationship deep down but those dreams have died. Social media is cancer and ruined any chance of that happening.

[@Sunday_Swagger]

Well, on my last date the young lady told me “men are obsolete, we have sperm banks now” with the most smug smile I’ve ever seen. That shocked me. After that remark, I decided to ask to split the bill & she absolutely Lost Her mind right in front of the waitress.

[@aim-for-greatn3z947]

I do t believe this 😂

[@who_we_are______5926]

Good job, the nerve of those whores.

[@Sunday_Swagger]

@@aim-for-greatn3z947 I wish it weren’t true 😢

[@Ottophil]

@@Sunday_Swagger well you kmow men should do? Ban abortions, that will make them wanna sleep with ya(this is sarcasm, legalize bortys)

[@Brukis1]

Fake interaction go outside

[@jasonmartinez7667]

23 never had a gf, date , 1st kiss, nothing. It just seems that girls have too many options, and I can't compete. Just look at a girls snap with 20+ guys trying to snap her everyday! I workout, eat good, go to church, and take care of myself financially. It seems like I will never be good enough. Im also scared that when I start making more money, it might be hard to tell which girl is genuinely interested in me.

[@SeraphoftheRoundTable]

28 going on 29, and I am in the same boat as you. I will admit I am a romantic nut at times and wish I had a relationship, but seeing how people treat me through body language "your not important enough," even if you do all the right things just tells me not to care at all what everyone else thinks. I tried being a "people pleaser," and I am done doing so.

[@broyout3586]

I was in your shoes at 23. Then I studied attraction, seduction material (this was pre pua craze) and found value in it. Managed to conquer the (then) woman of my dreams at 26, she was my first girlfriend. It didn't last, but managed this feat two times after that. (studied more seduction/pua stuff in between, around the time 'the game' came out). There is a lot of trickery and some mysogyny in the pua material, but the way I did it was try to learn what resonated with my personality and reject all the rest (which was 90+%). YMMV and your way might not by my way. But there is always hope and learning to do. Good luck.

[@ckenned]

Learn a foreign language and travel. Even if you make an effort it will help. Passport bros are onto something.

[@ronaldchannel]

You are not missing anything bro . Just keep building your kingdom.

[@RR-et6zp]

its always about the money

[@kurbicksan4917]

27 year old. My five year relationship ended because she left me for a felon with criminal records. I guess he has something I don't. I recover after one year of pain. I may not have the risky behavior she liked about him. But I have $$$, my own house, healthy, I travel, my body is fit, I work in the aerospace industry. I rather be single. Modern women are a pain in the ass.

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

Pain in the ass is IMMENSELY pleasurable for some 😂

[@flux9433]

​@@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO Yes indeed i used to have sex alot and there was one girl that really liked to be treated that way later on i found out on the internet by real confessions that most woman can be pleasured like that 😅whild stuffs however she went to live with another dude i mean she was not naive she knew what she wants and she asks for it i felt alone afterwards without spending time with her but i wasn't that much attached to her nor she was into me that much cause that was my second and last long term relationship and the first one that i had was very difrent from the second one what I've learned is that the more she acts like she loves you or cares about you the more you know she doesn't i guess maybe it's just my view and my own personal perspective but maybe applies to many who knows

[@emailitzs641]

Think of it this way you have something that’s too good for her, not other way around she chose a deadbeat just for bad boy and interest and she can change him, Get a girl traditional values drops everything for you. And have confidence knowing you’re a winner , you have goals and both of you connect. Can take time but when you find it you’ll know

[@dolcevita014]

Where do you live??

[@alejandrocastillo6011]

Trust me she was doing you a favor, she just didn’t know it. Imagine being married to that person

[@Krelian4400]

It's because harems are back. Women are okay with sharing the top tier best looking men. A modern woman would rather share Chad than settle for a Normie.

[@josephstalin2829]

If you just talked to women and went outside you would realise that’s not true

[@joane24]

Some women maybe, not the majority of women. It's a redpill myth that today the _majority_ of women is like that. Most aren't. Maybe if you look at the social media/dating apps and look at few hottest women or 'working girls' (Only Fans, etc.),but that's *not* the majority.

[@rupert5066]

​@@joane24based and whitepilled

[@FazeParticles]

@@joane24it’s a noticeable portion tho

[@mr.goldenproductions_0143]

@@joane24 you only say this because women are incapable of being completely truthful about their own psychology. I don't even say this in a reproachful way, it is just an evolutionary necessity. To select the potentially best mate, you girls have to be brutally selective under the mask of female and maternal empathy you enact at the surface level. This is why one of the great tropes and concerns of men throughout and across civilizations and art has been the subject of female deceit. This is where it comes from, when it's not malignant (because malignant deceit will always have an element of conscious manipulation to it e.g.). To the point discussed: it is a major cultural trope, best exemplified in literature (Madame Bovary is a good example for this), that most women will prefer being the concubine to the king than the wife of the loyal and lowly shoemaker. So the initial argument still holds up in my opinion.

[@kitano8025]

Not sure how this is surprising. Hypergamy + Social Media = Women are no longer limited to their local pool of men. The sexual market has expanded worldwide, allowing Becky from your hometown to be reached by Dimitri in Russia or Jacob in London or Ahmed in Dubai with a swipe on their phones. You're no longer competing with the popular college player, you're also competing with the millionaire sitting on his Yacht in Miami.

[@MikeLee-x8e]

​@Freedom Forever Yea that's realistic. Why is the response always "men need to do [x]" instead of the obvious answer which is that "women need to not be allowed to do [y]"

[@truthteller3024]

​@Freedom Forever I've been in the far remote village of Iran. The 304 there was using instagram to hook some rich dude somewhere else.

[@MikeLee-x8e]

@Freedom Forever You make me sick.

[@blabla903]

@Freedom Forever I don't think that was his girlfriend, I think he's just giving an example of how there are hoes everywhere.

[@alyssawoodman]

This made me laugh 😂

[@OneManOnFire]

Chris Rock said it the best. The number one reason why your lady is mad at you, you're not her first choice. Women have plenty of Men tossing themselves at them. They have limitless options.

[@tomzadvydas1758]

Women hold all the cards when it comes to sex and love

[@RR-et6zp]

@@tomzadvydas1758 except when they are dealing with a rich guy

[@Naurrrrrrrrr]

@@RR-et6zpmajority of men aren’t rich 😂

[@abel4776]

So Tom Brady wasn't a first choice?

[@OneManOnFire]

@@abel4776 He was a last pick.

[@memebro3181]

I'm in late 30s and have my own house with mortgage paid off, no student debt, no car debt, no debts at all. I tell this to any family member that questions my stoic lifestyle and all of them go silent and never ever ask me the stupid question.

[@Jay-eb7ik]

Same. Monk mode is peaceful

[@MomentswithDavid]

It’s cuz your not a 6 foot Chad

[@memebro3181]

@@MomentswithDavid 6 foot Chads don't get into relationshits. They get what they want and move on to next option.

[@bendover7841]

@@memebro3181 They get what they want. If they want a relationship, they get that too. While salty normies and uggos pretend they're "monks" or some sh1t. There seem to be more "monks" in the west now than there are in India and China combined.

[@kaskynightblade8490]

I'm 6 foot and is not like I have magic powers or anything. I've had 2 sexual partners in my life (I'm 29). Sometimes I get glanced at, but they always expect from you to chase them like a rabid dog. And that sickness me so I just ignore them.

[@eduardotirado839]

It’s very depressing out there.

[@tayzk5929]

Most men are happier not being with women thanks to the social revolution. They're making a rational choice.

[@CraZy291]

Amen to that brother

[@9770G]

For men.

[@TrueLixe]

Only alternative is learning to love to be alone.

[@Wittgensteinien]

@@TrueLixe Or you know.., become crazed with loneliness & go on a rampage.

[@travis3430]

It's simple. A 9/10 man is telling 2 or maybe 3 6/10 women that they are in a relationship but really he's just ploughing 🤣

[@spakkx]

dude dont tell everyone!

[@longfeet14]

Don't forget women who lie to themselves

[@kirerunte1046]

Ya a few men are sleeping with most women or most women are delusional, both answers work for me

[@CaptainHammerFists]

This is it. Dating apps and social media has made this exact scenario so easy. A smaller group of “desirable” guys are sleeping around.

[@bradbettis9210]

this is exactly it

[@stormhawk3319]

If your Mr Average you might as well prepare for a single life. Today’s women won’t settle for average.

[@bufficliff8978]

How do you explain all the below average and average people marrying, then?

[@stormhawk3319]

@@bufficliff8978 Thai brides

[@FlaviusConstantinus306]

Well those women are gonna end up single bitter and alone then aren’t they.

[@moto3463]

woemn are nutz z

[@D_402S-h2z]

​@@bufficliff8978We are talking about dating, not marriage. Average and below average looking men are settled for by women who spend their entire 20s hoeing around. That isn't the type of marriage men want.

[@dont5405]

Girlfriend of 4 years cheated on me. Made me question everything, even myself. Really couldn’t care less for the degeneracy that people my age do (18-26), so I suppose I’m a part of that 63%. Just isn’t worth it. Low quality females, drugs, and lack of discipline make good dudes either turn bad or become disconnected from the world. Just my two cents

[@marcusr3795]

Yep (21 m ) same I don’t want a girlfriend because most have been places doing things I never want to think about I’m truly disgusted and can’t be bothered playing detective constantly to find a reasonable partner. Some people say meet people in real life and all girls my age have phones with a ridiculous amount of men they’re talking to so it’s hopeless because they want to keep this after your commitment because they need a backup guy just in case.

[@plaga5923]

@@beauty_boss2257 with all due respect read the room obviously guys cheat too but bros not gay he’s talking about a women rn

[@quitpmoforgood687]

Facts.

[@johnmike121]

Women cheat more and always will. Having dozens of men hit on them 24/7 is a major reason

[@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials]

39 and disconnected at 36 after my ex abandoned me 10 years in...

[@A_Mind_For_Change]

Being told I'm a relatively attractive dude, now being 24 years old and having on one relationship with a 31 year old. Can just say no matter what the redpill community says. Something is seriously wrong, no amount of work on a guys end seems to matter. You can be the most interesting, built, financially stable and well off man. But since women have access to social media and can no longer pair-bond. They will "fall out of love" and leave you thinking they can do better. Not to mention the hive mind of other women who purposely find flaws in the guys they are with so they can ruin the relationship.

[@nightshirt4716]

you probably arent remarkably attractive then, talking about that tiktok boy archtype

[@Smolpantherbeby]

24 guy dating a 31 year old woman 💀

[@A_Mind_For_Change]

@@Smolpantherbeby gave it a shot, even with the redpill ingested. I decided to play naive and hope things could work out, but her pairbonding was gone after having kids.

[@Smolpantherbeby]

@@A_Mind_For_Change and a single mother?! Bro, ur young asf, please get some self esteem and self worth and do better. Or stay single, even that is 10x better.

[@winstonwolf5706]

Are you still together? Were they your kids?

[@SonofSolomon]

It makes perfect sense. Women share the top tier males.

[@eddiewiggles9398]

That and some of the Younger women are with men old enough to be their father which skews the stats.

[@Letsplay222]

@@eddiewiggles9398 Yeah, sugar daddies. Some of them even married.

[@stockholmpublishings2937]

or the women are just lying.

[@zacatkinson3926]

its overblown

[@innavision1920]

@@eddiewiggles9398women with daddy issues seek sugar daddies, they don’t even think anything wrong of it

[@zetascorpii9519]

I was with my girl from 1994 until 2019. I have ZERO interest in being with another woman again because I don't want to restart a relationship. I've found the single life to be fucking awesome! I wake up in the middle of the night and play my guitars VERY loud. Nobody tells me to turn it down. I buy my RC cars and nobody asks why i spent my money on "toys". I have my Xbox and gaming PC's setup the way I want. I drive my M4 as fast as I want and nobody tells me to slow down. I'm 47 and living a teenager's dream right now

[@bluemoon8498]

Good to know for people that never had gf.

[@TheMusicmak3r]

🤘

[@Rockthrower64]

Damn bro that’s awesome I wish I was you.

[@yurigansmith]

Rings damn familiar. 😅

[@lot2196]

Sounds like a total waste of a life. Narcissistic hell.

[@Livelarge913]

The problem isn’t being single, the problem is having to deal and being forced to feel like a loser because you don’t have a gf.

[@michaeljeffery7466]

That's a big one, the stigma is unbelievable. It's mind-blowing serious the attacks on single men are.

[@Itfuture-gg1yz]

@@michaeljeffery7466 its the internet and media, remove these 2 and stigma drops by 80% ,

[@Tom-vq2hw]

Exactly. That's why being an in cell makes you hate the world

[@yesyes3010]

Well, you are a loser, then. Btw, I have no girlfreind myselfe.

[@DesmondReed-y7e]

I tell any single man I meet, "smart man!".

[@gountzas]

*"Social media was like a good experiment but it just didn’t work. I have a theory that technology should have stopped right around 1995. We could cure enough diseases, cars were good enough.. it was right around there, we should have just stopped, but we’re not. We’re gonna keep going and I don’t know where any of this goes.”* Bill Burr

[@sp123]

I think 2008-2012 was a fine stopping point (GPS) the real issue is high speed internet

[@jkfd97]

White genocide.

[@humpteedumptee8629]

yea i thing 2010. but honestly i waouldnt mind removing most internet applications. and just keeping useful shit like messengers and gps.

[@tadeolho3634]

no, the internet have knowledge important

[@humpteedumptee8629]

@@tadeolho3634 so do libraries but there mostly used to rent old dvd's.

[@I-02]

The worst thing about this is that much of the reason many men would previously drive themselves to be their best in life is by virtue of having a partner or family that relied on him. Now that that's gone, and everyone just keeps telling them to work on themselves for eternity, it's no surprise that depression rates have skyrocketed and isolation is increasing. Go ahead and find that better job, make more money, find a new hobby, go to the gym, be everything that you could ever be. No one will be around to hear the tree fall.

[@user-kw1hs4dn1g]

Funny how men have kids with women nowadays and don't want to work

[@ladynottingham89]

The only sane comment I've read in this comment section so far.

[@Nick-ij5nt]

Exactly, why work harder at my job? I only have to support myself so as long as I can do that why should I work harder?

[@sumeriaanna8713]

This comment hits. We're told constantly to look inward, yet I suspect we'd be better off looking outward a little more. We need each other.

[@jeffshultz6243]

Whoa

[@alexgilliam75able]

I'm staying single i ain't dealing with anyone's bullshit

[@johnpark7972]

I’ve hired many high end escorts and yes they are bought but they are more capable of having an intelligent conversation, prettier, and better in bed than many women on Tinder

[@simpleuser0001]

That's the root of the problem.

[@adampickard9685]

@@simpleuser0001 fuck em let society rot

[@andrewevans7992]

@@simpleuser0001women are bringing the bullsht.. thats all they offer

[@deebo1339]

@@simpleuser0001exactly right. Nobody can be agreeable anymore it’s always one way or the highway. People used to be able to compromise and negotiate and work through a situation that maybe didn’t favor them.

[@whizkid235]

I’m a man almost 28 years old and I’ve certainly lost all interest in dating. I recently broke up with my girlfriend of 1 year who I thought I was in love with and was going to propose to. She was very ungrateful and didn’t reciprocate anything I did for her. She was very toxic and had that mentality of “I am a woman therefore I am a prize and I’m not obligated to do anything for you because women are not your slave. If you don’t do certain things for me I can find 100 other guys that can”. Anytime she came over to my house I had food ready for her, I ran errands for her, picked up and dropped off her mail, taught her how to workout and eat healthy, would drive 30 minutes each way to her house to check up on her cats while she’s at work, fixed her car and put new brakes on it myself, bought her gifts, always treated her to going out to restaurants and bars, etc… One day I had worked a 12 hour shift and hadn’t really eaten anything. I called and asked her if she could make dinner ready for when I got home because I’m starving (I already had chicken washed, cut, and marinated in a pan with vegetables. All she had to do was put it in the oven). You know what she said to me? “Hahaha are you kidding me? I’m not going to let a MAN tell me to cook for him. I am not your slave. This isn’t the 1920’s where women are only reduced to being in the kitchen. Go find you another BITCH that will let you disrespect her and boss her around with your toxic masculinity” I was speechless. Like I’ve gone to great lengths to do everything for this woman and she thinks like that? Treats me this way? I ended it with her then and there. But even before dating her and these past couple of months I’ve done pretty well at getting girls. I have a good career, nice house, built physique, tons of hobbies, and a good personality with a big circle of friends so I always had options when it came to women. The one thing I keep realizing is that most women are opportunists. Meaning that no matter how good of a man they are dating, they will always leave and date someone else that has something that you don’t have. Oh this guy has a boat This guy always gets tables in VIP at the club This other guy owns a jewelry store This one guy has a lake house Etc… Girls have so many options due to social media and dating apps that they don’t see a need to be with one man. They are unable to pair bond and they know that they don’t have to put any effort in and still hundreds of guys will simp for them and provide them with everything. The average girl has the same sexual pull as a male celebrity. The other day I went out on a first date with this girl and she wanted me to take a picture of her next to my sports car so she can post it on her story (she has about 450 followers on IG). Later in the evening after we hooked up she had 100+ DM’s all from guys who are local asking her to go out for drinks or when they can go out for a date again. Meaning a lot of those guys she’s already gone out with or they are next in line. Yea no thanks. I don’t want to feel like I have to compete with over 100 men for an average girl.

[@TheCoolerBrother]

Good for you bro this story put a smile on my face

[@howtosnatch]

Did the ex ever try to come back?

[@xtxschmidt]

It was an eye opener for me when I realized how much attention women get. Social media and all this tech absolutely annihilated dating for our generation. Frankly it seems sociopathic to me. I was out at the bars with some girls and they started talking about tinder, social media and guys. Oh my god literally a women nobody would look twice at has dudes simping every single day, all day every day. Money, gifts, trips, constant praise and attention, the endless compliments about everything they do, literally dozens of dms and messages every day with like a 2-6~ guys? What kind of world are they living in man. How is this sustainable?

[@K.Marx48]

Dude you're wrong when you say they have tons of options, they have FOR NOW, and they feel omnipotent because of the power of their boobs and genitals, but with great power comes responsibility. Sooner or later they'll it a huge fucking wall sometimes as early as 35 and they will hit it no matter what before they even realize, at that moment it'll be too late, their power they abused instead of putting it to good use is OVER. Relax, they'll get it, it just takes time.

[@whizkid235]

@@howtosnatch not yet. It’s been almost 2 months now since the breakup. I think she’s under the impression that she was the one that got a better deal by getting rid of me because of how misogynist I was and because I didn’t do enough for her 😂

[@rickblasing1237]

Try being 41, single, and hoping for just a date. Forget it. Even with a decent job, decent looks, decent life, doesn't matter. You are written off.

[@Mel-tw6qv]

I met my husband later in life. My parents also met late in life and this was very unusual for those times. I think around our age we all kind of assume everyone is married or taken.

[@SirRobbins]

after 50, it could be better. People have given up on dreams at that point and then we have a chance lol

[@fortheloveofnoise]

You have 3 amazing options. #1 Find a single mom who wants her child(ren) to grow up with a father. #2 Find an ugly girl who has a great personality #3 Find a woman outside of the U.S. (that is what I did, and am now engaged to a Swedish woman my age [28]) and now, i have no money...no job...im a deadbeat that lives in a garage....we like each other for who we are, not what we are or what we can give the other. She wont even let me buy her food on dates, sje pays for all her own things.

[@MikeLee-x8e]

@@Mel-tw6qv So you settled for a beta provider after you hit the wall? Poor guy. He got to marry used up sloppy 20ths.

[@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536]

You can get a DATE. Women would be happy to eat on your dime. But any type of physical connection is probably not in the cards unless you are a Chad or a Tyrone.

[@henrybrown4312GAMING]

my generation is too poor to afford love It ain’t about happiness anymore It’s about comfort

[@marylap6829]

The best love , the most important love is learning to love yourself and you can love others .. some from a distance , some up close .. just don’t confuse love with slavery.. be your own person and let others be who they are .. then you know for sure who your right person is.

[@Zooman0001]

lol try survival.

[@5thhorseman982]

Taking someone for a series of dinners to find out if they like you sounds like an awful prospect.

[@jonashworth9757]

Just turned 38, and finally accepted I’ll never find a good woman. Nothing has made me feel as worthless as dating western women. God bless everyone still trying.

[@themondoshow]

You just need more cash

[@bluemoon8498]

Im 40 your not alone i that situation, do yoir hobbies save money to make up for it. Wamen are shallow and selfish. Most women at work divorced and cheated on their so. I dont think the grass is greenee on the other side either.

[@LionMob]

Read 1 Corinthians 7

[@ayaguzel4878]

You will find, never lose hope 🫡

[@jer1776]

Happy to know the younger generation of men is continuing to wake up.

[@ronthomason8388]

Loyalty is dead in this country. The fact that your wife can divorce you at any moment and take half of your hard earned money is scary as shit. It's a complete turn off on dating for me, because i don't want to go through all the effort of dating, marriage, starting a family, only for it all to end with me having nothing but a broken heart

[@cg3868]

Right there with ya man. It’s sad but it’s true

[@Bathroomsteve]

I'm there too, seen it happen to guys around me. I worry for my best friend, him and his girl are good but you never know and would hate to see it happen to him.

[@Alhaneef1444]

Its made on purpose by the government to create a week womenized society They got this "skit" from the communsit manifesto Women shouldnt have a saying in many things in life

[@geoeconomics5629]

You do not want to commit to a 🙉 and I understand you

[@AP-gv1ee]

THIS TIMES A MILLION

[@terencew7716]

Men have realized that it is better being single than dealing with the roller coaster ride of a relationship

[@fortheloveofnoise]

i mean...i am the rollercoaster...so..yea...lol (im a man) i am engaged to a very patient lovely woman!

[@sreenivas6071]

​@@fortheloveofnoisegive it some time, youll join the rest of us soon enough

[@lv3575]

Wrong. They can’t attract women

[@andrewevans7992]

Nah most men are forced out unfortunately.. women use the average man then treat him like shit cause that’s the best she can do at that time. Then destroy that man’s life to find someone “better”

[@gdanny5]

Just turned 28 and been single for 10 years. I’ve given up on dating since I’m either rejected or just a friend/brother. The last girl I tried to date put me in friend zone, was ok with it until we had a talk saying she wishes she could find someone like me. I snapped and told her off. That was 3 years ago. My self confidence and self esteem is down the trash. My depression makes it twice as hard to get back but there’s no point for me. I’ve accepted that I’ll live and die alone.

[@derekmalunow8962]

You are not alone.

[@dylananoell]

Don’t say that. Stay up man, this happens to fuckin everybody, or at least every man. I’d know. If she really felt that way she’d be begging to have you back. Now screw your head on right, get strong & get after it. We’re rooting for you. 👇🏻 Give this guy some motivation

[@Matthew7.7]

Get your money up. Hit the gym, build a social group.

[@kevinmurphy5878]

That's horrible man, I'm sorry. You're not alone and you can do it. Idk if my advice will be useful at all because idk 90% of the situation, but I'd say you have to approach everyone in person, not online, and that you just need to approach a shit ton of women to make up for the fact that 9/10 of them will say no. I have no money and I'm not super attractive and talking to people in person and being genuine has worked WAY better than I expected, but I also don't want to say "look it's easy." Could be different in different parts of the country. Just my two cents. I hope everything works out.

[@officebear4637]

@@dylananoellshut up begging for likes as a facade to give some guy motivation apparently lmao you’re so full of it.

[@chunkz1187]

More men need to understand that being independent is a great thing and nothing to be embarrassed about. I am 35 years old and have never had a girlfriend, I haven't had sex since the pandemic started and I haven't used a dating app or chased after a woman since that same time. I spent way too much time and energy on trying to chase women in my 20's which got me nowhere and I wasn't even getting rejected by women personally because I couldn't get to that point with them and it was soul crushing and caused too much depression and self hate towards myself until I turned my life around by hitting the gym, getting a better well paying job and most importantly doing skillful hobbies that I love that and have progressed at which occupies my time. Fast forward to now and I have bought my own house on a single income, I have some impressive PBs in the gym (not the greatest but I am chuffed) I play golf 3 times a week, I paint Bob Ross style, I have a little herb garden and succulents to look after amongst other things and I have to tell you that the moment I let go of women as something to be obtained in life my mental health skyrocketed and I am in an infinitely better place now financially, emotionally, health-wise etc why would I ruin my great balance by getting involved with a woman now? I don't believe in loneliness anymore, I thought I was lonely being alone but really I was just bored with nothing to do and once I started taking my fitness seriously, playing sport and doing fun hobbies my happiness went up the depression went down and "loneliness" was gone. It wasn't "loneliness" dragging me down it was a stagnating life bankrupt of activity. There is so much more to life than women and sex and it makes me sad to see so many brothers fall victim to the trap that our lives exist purely to chase women. I agree with the "go to the gym and take up hobbies" rhetoric we constantly get told but not as an end result to get women but as the end result to improve our health, our skills and our mental health. We don't need women we need activity

[@danielwit5708]

Feel sorry for you

[@Blaiyan]

Sounds great. And you sound happy too.

[@klel4334]

lol cope, theres nothing better than a womans touch, plump, firm, supple, lmao. beta male

[@klel4334]

@@truthteller3024 pure cope, beautiful women all around you, but you get none

[@tbone8358]

Some people want a family though and being single doesn’t help that

[@antondavidovic3996]

One of the best phrases I have read: "Love is like a fart... If you have to force it, its most likely crap". I always feel so exhausted when I try my best to be in a relationship with a woman, its rarely ever rewarding. All the truly "happy" relationships I see around me seem to have manifested so effortlessly. This is the best way to live imo. If you meet the right person, it will flow effortlessly, if you don't, you'll be alone but at least you won't be in a toxic relationship... Imo, its better being alone than with someone who will drain your emotions and mental well being.

[@colbalt95]

Stop trying. You're looking at this logically and emotional intelligence is designed to be illogical. I could explain to you the evolution behind it but you need to have at least one rotation dating four or more women to unlock the answer.

[@gintonicx6]

@@colbalt95 Rotation of 4 women, do you have a job?

[@johnsampson6387]

So true. If a woman truly likes you, she will make things very easy for you. It's not worth it otherwise (in my opinion).

[@cosmicsea89]

I wouldn't say those successful relationships were "effortless", cuz there are sacrifices and compromise involved on both ends. I will say though, that the women have more leverage or steering power than ever before.

[@DG4444everrrr]

A lot of people I know in relationships have cheated on each other at some point but are still together lol

[@fledgling5616]

"It doesn't make sense why there's a disparity between the sexes." No Joe, it makes perfect sense.

[@cmdrdredd]

Men testing the waters and going on a few dates a month says he’s single. Women doing the same say they are not. Also I think it’s true that more men are unafraid to say they are single, while for a woman to admit that is hard because they worry about what their friends think more than most guys.

[@nickthompson1812]

All you have to do is think about who controls sex.

[@Wwattz]

From what I remember, about 20% of men are going to be relatively undesirable, another 20% being single is normal depending on societal factors. I think 60% is an indicator that somethings wrong. But we might be in uncharted territory when compared to the rest of history.

[@oglocbaby520]

I honestly agree with this, though the exact numbers may be off. There have always been young men who did poorly with the opposite sex. Look at any university and especially those in fields like engineering or the hard sciences, most of those are not players lol. Then you also have young men that are just quite undesirable, basically what you imagine when the term "incel" comes to mind (bad hygiene, obese, etc.). The thing is, the vast majority of men are relatively normal and otherwise potentially dateable. They don't have severe social issues, mental health problems, are not drug addicts, alcoholics, etc. I am convinced there is some very wrong with the current dating market but I believe there are many variables to blame that are collectively causing this.

[@oglocbaby520]

I like to use myself as an example. I'm 33 now, white, 6'4" 235 with an athletic build and one of the fittest guys at the gym I go to, I go hiking a lot, etc. I'm taller and in better shape than the vast majority of men, for those over 30 I'm at a whole different level. Anyway, I've gotten a ton of rejections over the years and while some of them were from women that were hot many of them were from women that were completely average and even at times slightly unattractive. A few years back, 2019, I got this idea to try out a speed dating event from a guy I knew, I thought it would be interesting so I signed up. Anyway, there were about a dozen women around my age, late twenties through early 30s. There were no ugly women, but a couple that were legitimately fat and the rest were within an average range for women that age. Anyway, long story short I got nothing from the event and that experience really opened my eyes, this was back in 2019. Women around my own age that were single and actively looking did not think that a man their own age that was 6'+ and clearly in shape was not good enough to consider for a real date. They literally at face value rejected this, so it's not like they were filtering out for things related to compatibility, which happens after a couple dates. Granted, this isn't the best way to meet women but it's a fantastic example of what I'm talking about here.

[@joane24]

@@oglocbaby520 Women aren't like computers, that you put a right code in, and you're guaranteed a success. Not only we have various preferences, but also it's mor actually more about a actual connection than what's on a paper/'bio'. For me, personally, you'd be too tall, I'm myself not too tall and don't like very tall men. Personal preference. Also, there's other factors: face, behavior, tone of voice, mannerisms, character/personality, scent - many of the preferences are actually unconscious, and vary across the individual women.

[@oglocbaby520]

@@joane24 I totally agree and as a man you are NOT going to be every woman's type. However, the point I was getting at is that there is an issue with many women with how picky they are, which is preventing them from potentially getting into relationships with men that are acceptable. That's why I was using myself as an example with that speed dating event I cited. If women at an event like this, who are obviously single and looking, are deeming a man that is 6'+ and in shape worthy of the reject pile I would like to know what it is that they are actually looking for. This is the reason why they are single and looking, it's because they are far too picky. They want a guy that is 6'+, which is the minority of men, but then he is too skinny. They find a guy that is 6'+ and has the right body type for them but they don't like attire. They find a guy that has the height, body and style but he has some quirks that bother them. Do you see what I"m getting at here? I believe the biggest issue is that women have this perception of overabundance due to social media and dating apps, where they feel they can be incredibly choosey. What ends up happening though is they just end up perpetually single because they are programmed to believe they can find some perfect match, which in reality doesn't exist.

[@joane24]

@@oglocbaby520 I agree with you that I also see this (worrying) trend, I see it actually in both women and men, though you're right it's probably more often in women, that they're not even willing to give a chance and actually see if maybe he/she has a great character and a relationship partner. It's like people seem to have this ideal in their head and anything less means automatically out. And I agree dating apps skewed many women's expectations, to something that doesn't even make sense in real life when it comes to forming connection and building a relationship. Which is really stupid, it's not how people in the past, and I'm talking now just my parents or grandparents generation, used to date and form families. It used to be you meet someone, you get to know them at least a bit and see if you both 'click', but it wasn't just based on some long checklist, but getting to know someone as a person. It's really sad and I'm sorry for those who have to date today, from what I see it's really hard, especially for men.

[@JeriDro]

I've been single my whole life until 32. I stopped dating Mexican, American and European women. I went to the Caribbean and found an amazing wife, you can find a good woman, just not in the States.

[@23STEVO23]

it seems like a total mess over in the states, herein the UK, things don't seem that bad. we do have feminists here, but it seems a much worse problem over in america

[@rayrayrun]

@@23STEVO23 what do you think about the christian value/family value is much more stronger there? And why do you think this is the case?

[@primafacie5029]

Edddeee, I want haff

[@HatchetHarry12]

​@@23STEVO23 nope the UK is Americas cousin. Australia and Europe is the same, maybe to lesser extremes than the States.

[@wrfootball3847]

I found my life changed when I moved away from dating Western Women....too independent, feisty and too much competition. As soon as I dated non western like Asian, my hit rate sky rocketed. If you have POND1 with hot western women but tons of guys competing and POND2 with women just as hot and more lovely and traditional with less competition I decided to fish in POND2! Why less competition? Because the women in POND2 aren't out dating 5 men at once, meeting tons of guys drinking, clubbing, whatever. It's just a culture difference. Biggest advice to men, is change the culture of women you go for and your life will change, did for me.

[@lorzon]

How does it work? Modern society is designed, not just to benefit women, but actually punish men.

[@Austin123.]

Women also expect to be in a relationship and marry someone of 6 figures. But that is the 1% of men. So you have these women dating/marrying older men, and having sugar daddies than men who are still working their way up. Plus as you said, modern women and these feminist movement is causing many young men to refuse to date.

[@jk8301]

@@Austin123. not six figures men, attractive men.

[@lorzon]

@@jk8301 Like the meme says, 6 feet, 6 pack and 6 figures.

[@1594simonsays]

this society ruined me. i used to really care and love people. not anymore, this is what they wanted

[@Krelian4400]

Punish average men, the top tier men live like gods.

[@buckycollins7459]

I got broken up with a year ago, and I was heart broken. I checked my credit score the other day and it shot up 120+ points. It would seem society rewards me for being single.

[@colbalt95]

Western Society punishes Good married men. Get your stuff together and get your passport

[@fortheloveofnoise]

My credit score is 0

[@trentonparrish1136]

My credit score just shot up too and I now finally have good credit! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@kylefer]

The single get taxed more sadly.

[@PermanentHigh]

​@@kyleferIt's hardly a difference

[@SuperGirl-tf2wn]

The "I wish I could find a guy like you who isn't you" is an actual thing.

[@alexchainger]

thats why most of women will be 30 and childless. There was a financial insentive for you to settle there isnt anymore. society will disolve together with the family unit

[@KamakNeApiMalimawata]

I'm a single man, 40 years old and I never had a GF during the last 20 years. Had sex a few times by paying. I don't even hire prostitutes anymore as I hate women so much. When I'm ready to die, I'll not just leave alone, I'll take a few women with me. You know how it happens. Now you have a reason to live in fear.

[@OrlandoMacario-ln2ib]

I was married for 26 years and now all of a sudden she doesn't love me anymore. We are getting divorced and she tell me her boyfriend, who is also married tells her she is beautiful and sexy all the time. To me they are both pieces of shit made for each other. I will remain single and work on myself. She threw away stability and security for attention and validation

[@jan-bean]

the fact that you can call your ex wife, who you shared 26 years of life with, a piece of shit now indicates you were probably never very great to her or loved her in a deep unconditional way. None of the men I’ve been with would ever call me that because they loved me in a profound way that a human being should love another in the sharing of such an intimate space. No man I’ve been with would stoop so low, even if I acted out, because their virtue isn’t dependent on how others respond to it.

[@ANKET47]

@@jan-bean You forgot to take your meds?

[@jan-bean]

@@ANKET47 No I just have found through life experience that the men who talk poorly about their exes usually were abusive and the men who move on and only talk respectfully aren’t. I’m not denying your ex did something awful, but I’m just confused on how people can go from spending 26 years with someone to seeing that person in such a black and white way with seemingly no nuance.

[@MarquosXoloVanda]

​@@jan-beanyou're a bot

[@solitary200]

She got the lifetime alimony

[@TurkTigg]

I have four friends who are in their mid 30s and are still single. 2 of them are definitely hooking up with a bunch of younger women. They tell stories about the bullshit lies they tell these women. The other two are some of the best dudes you'll ever meet. Had their hearts broken one too many times and moved on.

[@andrewevans7992]

Might as well lie, everything that comes out a womans mouth is a lie. They love liars n players

[@tomzadvydas1758]

The first group: the women fall for this

[@lisalisa6617]

@@tomzadvydas1758yes, the desperate pick me’s. That get left eventually

[@Mattattaxk]

My mom truly believes that women are innocent. She believe it is always the guys fault. I haven’t dated since high school and I’m freshly out of college. Women’s expectations are insane compare to men’s. 12 inch you know what, abs, making a 100k plus a year and having already a house paid is not something anyone in 30s and 20s can provide. But if guys just want someone who is honest and genuine we’re the misogynists one.

[@julesb2415]

I'm a woman fresh out of college as well. I never dated in highschool and never dated in college. I know tons of other girls just like me. I have yet to meet any girls that describe the standards/ expectations you describe. Every other girl I know just wants someone honest and genuine as well, including myself. So this broad generalization of what women want and expect is either anecdotal, meaning the only women you encounter or go after have these expectations, or it is a theory that because you do not meet these expectations and also do not have your desired woman, this must be the only thing women want. Good girls are out there, but they aren't gonna fall into your lap and it's not all of women's fault when we don't. Keep an open mind, women like that.

[@Mattattaxk]

@@julesb2415 first off a lot of what you’re saying is mainly speculation. The statistics are supporting my experience though. There’s a reason why men are twice as much as single. I am not expecting anyone to fall in anyone’s lap. I am just saying what I have experienced and been verbally told. I don’t doubt the existence of any women that are good out there but I and other men who have told me their struggle cannot seem find anyone that is interested in anything long term and actually real.

[@shanemacas-senn6347]

​@@MattattaxkTo be fair, what you're saying is also speculation. I also know a lot of women with high earning potentials who are looking for a serious relationship. Most of the qualifications that you listed aren't what they're looking for. Most of them want a genuine man who is willing to mature with them, not some hyper- masculine bro. Actually, most of them broke it off with their exs in college because their BFs were static in mindset. Women want someone they can grow old with (have kids, have a life, support them in their own career goals, etc). It doesn't necessarily come down to monetary means either. Support can be given in a lot of ways. Emotional support for instance is a desired trait. Maybe it's all speculation, but I can say from my own personal experience that there are a lot of women out there that those superficial characteristics are meaningless.

[@mihaiapostol7864]

@@shanemacas-senn6347 "I can say from my own personal experience that there are a lot of women out there that those superficial characteristics are meaningless" this has been my experience too, if you're interested in women that simply want a partner to help each other grow & have children with, you'll find plenty. for the record, i live in europe.

[@thepartydude]

This is escalating quickly, now women are looking for over 6ft dudes. Man I'm praying for something to happen, we need hard times to bring back the normality when survival is a thing. If a economic crash is a thing, men no longer pay OF or donations the women would low the standards and become more trad.

[@Jdoggdarula]

Im 23, Im just burnt out on relationships and trying. Loyalty is dead even in friendships.

[@dannyhernandez265]

I’m 23 too, I don’t even know where to LOOK for a girlfriend.

[@Jdoggdarula]

@@dannyhernandez265 I don't make millions a year, and I don't want to be cheated on so I don't see a point in trying.

[@yt-user03561]

People are more fickle than they have ever been. Even your male friendships will fade out. Especially as you get older and they close off their social circles once they get married. It sucks and I've just had to make the most with my solitude because at least it's better than being with the wrong people.

[@dannyhernandez265]

@@Jdoggdarula sadly true. I ain’t rich, I don’t even know how to please a woman. (Date wise) I’m clueless.

[@dannyhernandez265]

@@yt-user03561 exactly. I went to college hoping to have friends, meet girls, party…. Sadly my life isn’t like that. I wish it was, but I just don’t fit it in anywhere at this point in my life. I gave up trying to integrate to society and just have to cope with the fact that I’m an outsider.

[@toddjohnson271]

Think about it Joe.....most men get nothing and the top guys are slamming side chicks.

[@Mnaoke]

And it is accepted in our modern society for top guys to slam side chicks.

[@toddjohnson271]

@@Mnaoke I think it's never changed probably...they control everything.

[@tuinov6286]

​@@Mnaoke Top guys dont force women. Women want them.

[@mrchonk316]

@@Mnaoke and why shouldnt it be? Nobody is forcing women to sleep with these guys they are attracting multiple women because of someting that women are attracted too, be that fitness money status or a combo of all of those. Either become one of these type of men or take a backseat and pick up whats left complaining about it isnt going to change it.

[@stockholmpublishings2937]

but the side chicks are then lying since they're not in a relationship?

[@TheFourtHokage100]

because dating for a man is just a game that you won by not playing it .

[@TheFourtHokage100]

or you have to be willing to get through LOT OF BULLSHIT just to have the chance to get some pussy, nah im good thank you

[@pab1972]

@@TheFourtHokage100 try to learn how to play the game, there are tons of info on dating and social dynamics online

[@TheFourtHokage100]

@@pab1972 im not a virgin, i had some girlfriends and some hookups, but today i dont care i dumped my girlfriend recently and looking at modern woman you have to be like a super man (mentally and phsically) to make some girls want to have sex with you, its just not worth it, id rather work, earn money and live my life peacefully

[@pab1972]

@@TheFourtHokage100 we both know u dont have to be super man to get laid, cmon bruh

[@BigD4Real.]

I’m 38 and I stopped dating years ago. Women just used me for free food, drinks, shows, to do things for them and money with no intention of being intimate with me.

[@andrewevans7992]

Yeah they just talk shit n when they get beat at their own game they cry online.. or ruin your life

[@user-kw1hs4dn1g]

She owes you sex because you spend money on her? Funny how men say women sleep around too much but when a woman waits she's considered a user 😂

[@Kelly-nt2rq]

It's weird that you only did those things for women under the hopeful expectation that they would be intimate with you. They didn't owe you sex because you spent money on them. What a disgusting mindset. I can see why you struck out and gave up.

[@killertofu123]

@@Kelly-nt2rq Maybe he started out with good intentions, but then realized over time that he was being taken advantage of, which made him cynical. Who knows.

[@alaalfa8839]

Some real nice women who are not brainwashed by television, feel deep love for her partner, for his charisma and wisdom and humor and spending time with him, holding his hand, feel his masculine strength, his charismatic hands, legs, neck, hair that its not just about sex but the connection and intimacy falling in love is not just about having sex falling in love means that she loves him wholeheartedly and therefore she doesn´t think about other people. She wants him to be happy because happy people fall in love with their partner. As Sam Vaknin said Love is the ultimate addiction, healthy addiction, therefore Facebook doesn't want men to fall in love with their own wives, because Facebook wants his eyeballs to look at the advertisement instead of looking at his beautiful wife. Therefore happy marriages are great competition for Facebook advertisements because the guy or wife is more in love with the partner than with Facebook feed.

[@tonydalton939]

This is a great comment section. Very relatable and true to what is being said. I feel very connected to your guy's stories.

[@Kelly-nt2rq]

@SweetChick10101 we do not all want love.

[@codywarhawk7099]

​@SweetChick10101I'd rather women stay the fuck away from me.

[@willspurlock4236]

this has got to be ironic

[@turboskywalker9108]

Women say they are dating because they don't want to look like a side piece. They know what it is truthfully though

[@Eric-yn6ur]

Women are sharing the same men. It's just that simple. Women would rather share an alpha then settle for a beta. They will never verbally admit to this though

[@VulcanJEDI]

Look at all the men recently divorced in Hollywood. If ALL those men can't keep a relationship, there is a problem. Women ☕️

[@tomasrocha6139]

Incorrect use of alpha and beta

[@ryanthomas5450]

The single life is so less stressful, modern women are hardwork.

[@andrewevans7992]

You could probably build 5 businesses before finding a legit woman thats loyal

[@jaysouthmusic8230]

​@@andrewevans7992right

[@federalgodson]

Not only single but sexless. Only a few guys are running through most women

[@BalkanManic]

this is the problem. Women dont want men who are working on themselves in their 20s. But then when these men become attractive after years of hard work these same women are ran through by then and the men no longer want them. What real man would marry a girl who gave her body up easily? Modern woke culture will say this is wrong thinking but this is how men have always thought naturally.

[@joaorodo]

Joe Rogan learns that women would rather share a "winner" than have a "loser" only for themselves.

[@delvine13]

Im 34 been single 3yrs now and im actaully injoying it. The lack of sex doesnt bother me. The peace and ability to focus on my goals is refreshing.

[@patrioticcat5768]

I got cheated on in my Earl 20's so I've been single for a decade now. I don't see a relationship any time soon. That kind of pain is one I can't handle, never again.

[@constantlylearnandgrow3487]

damn brother. face the pain and get over with it, life goes on

[@bronsonnolan1383]

I didnt get cheated on, but I know what you mean. I was with my ex for 5 years, 20-25. She comes home from a girls day with her sister and says "I think im going to spend the weekends at my parents, they said they miss me" SURE DEAR, I know how close you are with them. She never came home :) Five years, thats how it ended. That shit is rough

[@ThaiThom]

I've been through that over and over and I can tell you that is just female nature. They all do that. You learned the ugly truth. Congratulations, you're not alone. Exception: There is only one small group of women don't all do that, and those are the religious conservatives - and I mean the ones who go to church every Sunday and pray to be forgiven. They are afraid to go to hell, so they try not to sin. That is a very small minority. So, if you're into that, maybe you can find a faithful wife. Religious Muslims kill their women for adultery. Either way, monogamy is about marriage and marriage is about religion, so monogamy is a religious thing.

[@karimabraham7535]

Sissy

[@Protoman618]

Good, good. Embrace the hate. It gives you power.

[@Alexis.784]

We doing it boys, let's get that 💯 percent 💪💪

[@War-Zone349]

LOL

[@DantesFromHospital]

brooo xddd thank you

[@Tyler_W]

Then you can pretty much kiss civilization goodbye. It's extremely bad as it is, and this is a problem that we seriously need to address if we don't want to eventually suffer irreparable population collapse.

[@Alexis.784]

@@Tyler_W dude, you gotta understand tho, as a man you don't decide to reproduce, women do, so yeah this a women issue not mine you know.

[@War-Zone349]

@@Tyler_W It's irreparable in the short-term, but fixable in the long-term. The collapse needs to happen to steer the West on the right course.

[@carlosgarcia-jz3dq]

they are all dating the same chad, the truth is that most women would rather share a chad then "settle" for a normie

[@paddyoak1]

48 years old. Single, never married. In my 20s and 30s, it was shameful. Now it’s a badge of honor. Almost every married man I ever met told me STAY SINGLE. I’ve been on a few dates; which were like awkward job interviews. Was accused of stalking/harrassment for just showing interest in women. I’m done.

[@Taegreth]

In addition to everything else, I think a good portion of men these days are worried about approaching women because of your latter point. It can already be challenging to find the courage to ask a woman out, but worrying about being accused of being a creep, stalker or harassing them just amplifies the stress, the risk doesn't feel worth it.

[@KTS_85]

“Awkward job interviews” is a great description. I got tired of the typical “I didn’t feel a connection” rejection response.

[@royce1041]

Damn those video games and hot & ready 5 dollar pizzas

[@pauljosephcleary]

37 years married,now single.Single is better.Hindsight,stay single.

[@MeekMillisbendingoverrn]

@@royce1041I order Palio’s those hot and ready pizzas are shit

[@jakemarlow8998]

I'm 60 and stopped looking for a partner 15 years ago because it's impossible to find a woman who is sweet, warm, affectionate and nurturing. Instead, they are too "male" for my liking (cold, competitive, opinionated, etc.). And it doesn't help that the vast majority of women over 40 are overweight, have emotional issues, drink too much wine, and have unhealthy lifestyles.

[@richardmorris7063]

I'm 66 & same here. Pretty happy by myself.

[@karimabraham7535]

Lol my previous ex was 40, had emotional issues, drank too much wine, and had an unhealthy lifestyle 😅

[@hoedemakerbart]

Move your ass to countries like Thailand or Philippines asap brother

[@DonnaDoveWinters]

I don't drink, am not over 40, and not overweight, but I am on the spectrum so I probably come across as 'cold' to my partner. It's something I have been working on but being nurturing does not come naturally to me. Keep in mind that I can't be the only person with this issue

[@ArticulatorSK]

Many men are invisible to women.

[@GoogleAccount-jn5qb]

Many women refuse 90% of men.

[@Mysikrysa]

Mouse dystopia experiment: human edition.

[@PatronHall]

Men have to do a lot to become attractive in the modern era. Work out, work long days, focus hard on money etc. But men don't really need all that. They can be quite happy at 45-60k a year. Women don't present a compelling case for all that effort. A look at your married friends and a few are happy, but most are miserable, sexless, trapped in their own homes. Single men can still date if they want, but if they don't, it's quite nice having all your money and time to yourself.

[@jamisonbernhardt3310]

I might buy a new fpc carbine rifle. You know why? Cause I can. I might buy some weed to smoke while I study it. Cause I can....

[@innavision1920]

Most men can live happy in a room with a mattress on the floor, a few essential items, and a fridge full of food while being able to do their favorite hobbies. If a woman entered the mix, all she has to do is be genuine and present, let him come home to a peaceful place, and he is fulfilled in life. Women on the other hand are constantly feeling they need more out of their situations. They may get what they want but are rarely satisfied. When a man comes in the mix, they want the most comfortable situation possible at your expense and to spend (your) money on things that serve no purpose, while they expect you to take them out on fancy dates regularly. If you do not check off every one of her 99 boxes, she is unfulfilled and will resent you for it.

[@badart3204]

Idk, people say this yet dudes keep killing themselves. I’m unconvinced

[@DonnaDoveWinters]

I'm a woman and I have to do a lot to be attractive, I think it's part of being human. I get up every day at 4am for my workout, do my hair and put on light makeup, invest in a decent wardrobe & skincare, work long hours, invest for my retirement, etc. It's not just men who have to put in effort. I have to look out for myself in this life, and I think other women (men too) have the same mindset. If a man does not bring value to my life, I do not want him in it. I do love my free time as well

[@PatronHall]

You do those things to *feel* attractive. Attractive women are hot right out of the shower. Any man who has lived with an attractive woman will tell you this. That's why our favorite outfit is a t-shirt and panties. Men are judged by much more than their appearance. It's not "fair" to either sex, it just is what it is. Women are sex objects, men are achievement objects. @@DonnaDoveWinters

[@resurection96]

I am 35, no wife no kids no mortgage. I am using this time to do everything I can to make my dreams a reality. I welcome a wife and kids if that happen's, but if it doesn't, I love what I do and that fullfilment, that purpose, that moment of giving back when My Dreams Become Reality will be all worth it. Stay Strong Brothers.

[@AWarriorFromNature]

the point of life is to procreate brother.

[@louislowe1849]

@@AWarriorFromNature8 billion people is already far too many, why would we need more

[@Nithinithinith]

Get a cat.

[@stoicreader]

​@@AWarriorFromNatureand who will afford kids my bro? i wish my parents earned a lot before having me so i can have a chill life instead of this soul sucking job

[@bigt4135]

I a 41 year old man. Never been in a relationship. I haven’t been with a woman in 18 years. Whatever it is women want, I just don’t have it.

[@Roooooooo22]

Growing up I had bad asthma and stopped breathing one day during dinner, that feeling of losing breath was peaceful and every time I feel scared to die alone, I think of that moment and realize once you get there it really goes silent and in the end you go alone even if you’re surrounded by family, you see pretty memories and then that’s it. So live your life

[@sammmyyyyyy]

I hate this generation I just wanna be loved😔

[@tadeolho3634]

Se a sua vida gira em torno de relacionamento , meus pêsames

[@sammmyyyyyy]

no me gusta 😔 gracias

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

Love doesn't exist

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

@Mental Chores Love is an illusion invented by human minds.

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

@Mental Chores Oxytocin is a mind altering drug which gives the ILLUSION of love

[@SirAuron777]

It still surprises me that people are surprised and shocked about these stats “it doesn’t make sense” bro what?

[@salpertia]

Right? China is worse in that regard I believe If you set a one child policy with men being born more frequently what did you think was going to happen?

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

takes normie society about 10 years to catch up to the Internet LOL

[@MikeLee-x8e]

Normies will refuse to accept facts, if the implications of accepting those facts means that their worldview will be overturned. The implications of accepting the truth about female nature is that everything we have been taught about equality and freedom for women being good was a lie that was intentionally pushed to destroy western civilization. That's too much for most normies to wrap their minds around so they just call you names instead.

[@Wittgensteinien]

@@therearenoshortcuts9868 That's right, you can see some shit coming 10 years in advanced & it won't reach surface level until a decade later. People will start debating it, 10 years too late.

[@bear1830]

I’ll tell you why I’m done with dating, every single girl my age has an instagram that has some disturbing pics on it and they get hundreds and thousands of likes. Several girls I went to elementary school with have thousands of followers on their social medias and it’s like they are celebrities now. That makes me insecure af, knowing I could have a gf and she has all these guys liking her stuff and definitely sending her messages and sh**. F that, it shouldn’t be that way. All it takes if one message from a richer or better looking guy to win her over and she’ll just leave me like that. I don’t care about girls anymore man, there are definitely normal girls out there but they are so insanely hard to come across nowadays. Growing up everyone would just know each other in my neighborhood and that’s it, now you can reach out to anyone around the world and advertise yourself.

[@RR-et6zp]

its biology, shes not yours

[@Andrew-iq5ud]

Yea bro this cute girl at my gym i been talking to has an ibstagram full of bikini pics from ages 12-18 with hundreds of likes and comments from thirsty dudes. Its public too. How is this acceptable for a girl to have 12 yo bikini pics publicly available to literally everyone.

[@thecontainerthecontents6889]

exactly. social media and dating apps was the end of marriage, worldwide, I'm pretty convinced it's done. girls are basically all quasi prosties now. girls are always on their phones to soak up the male attention. so any girl addicted to that... forget it, waste of time, she's perma-hoe, even if it's just psychologically perma-hoe. men don't need attention from a bunch of stranger females digitally. women however seek it and are addicted to it by and large. so all is fuked.

[@VultureXV]

Early 30s crowd here. One of the most embarrassing things I ever asked close family members was asking my sister, "where do I even _go_ to find other singles?" She didn't even know. I don't do online dating because it is a market fueled by male loneliness. I still don't even know where to _go_ to even look. Most hobbies are pretty clear cut down the line of the gender spectrum so I usually only find guys where my interests lie. The worst part is most people still think a bar is the best place to meet. I'm not looking for another goddamn hookup. Why does everything devolve into hookup culture? Whatever happened to what my mom and dad told me to find success? Why the hell does it feel like my goddamn dogs give me more companionship than most women, let alone most people?

[@Dan-sw8tg]

​@@Maskstohidemasksinteresting, mind to elaborate? You mean they died of in war etc before having one? 🤔

[@John_Caravella]

All men (except the top 10 percent) should boycott online dating sites.

[@John_Caravella]

You'll never find a woman who's as loyal as a dog. Women's love is only conditional love. When time's get tough, they bolt.

[@andrewevans7992]

Most men feel like you do about not getting companionship from others cause they were and are treated like you, including myself so everyone is out for themselves these days, cant really blame others but i totally relate to your story. I extremely dislike people who go to bars regularly, its like they have no brain cells that those types of people who they attract are gonna leave them same way they found each other.

[@jamesr3616]

Church

[@jaxm3584]

This is where im at in life, 29 had many girlfriends but just got fed up with the bullshit and found it alot more peaceful being single. None of my previous gfs brought anything of real value to the table in a relationship. Just sex, and thats not enough to build a future with. 0 resources financially, 0 emotional support, 100% entitlement and toxicitiy. So alot of guys, myself included are just saying fuck it. Especially with the ways marriages usually end up in divorce and the guy loses half his money, the custody of the kid's, and his sanity.

[@jamisonbernhardt3310]

Correct

[@alaalfa8839]

Some real nice women who are not brainwashed by television, feel deep love for her partner, for his charisma and wisdom and humor and spending time with him, holding his hand, feel his masculine strength, his charismatic hands, legs, neck, hair that its not just about sex but the connection and intimacy falling in love is not just about having sex falling in love means that she loves him wholeheartedly and therefore she doesn´t think about other people. She wants him to be happy because happy people fall in love with their partner. As Sam Vaknin said Love is the ultimate addiction, healthy addiction, therefore Facebook doesn't want men to fall in love with their own wives, because Facebook wants his eyeballs to look at the advertisement instead of looking at his beautiful wife. Therefore happy marriages are great competition for Facebook advertisements because the guy or wife is more in love with the partner than with Facebook feed.

[@jaxm3584]

@Ala Alfa real nice women are out there, I'm not arguing that. It's more the sheer frustration as a man to find one since they're becoming rarer by the year. So a lot of guys, myself included as a consequence, are pretty much emotionally checking out on the whole dating scene.

[@CoolWhipp-hy1qu]

My girlfriends were the complete opposite. They just felt like friends. I was very emotionally close to them but we Didn’t ever have sex. Killed my mental well being.

[@JohnD-zh9st]

@@alaalfa8839 bro this is like the 5th comment you've commented this on, we don't gaf

[@CharlieRogers50]

This should scare the shit out of us as a society. Healthy children are born of families, and in order for life to go on we need men and women connecting with one another. Long term relationships and children are also some of the most meaningful and fulfilling endeavors in life, which means we're going to have a bunch of sad, lonely people walking around until they die.

[@johjoh1203]

It should. But people don't think in any collective sense, be that society, family, or nation. Instead, it's just me me me and empowerment.

[@oglocbaby520]

@@johjoh1203 I'm 33, American, and this genuinely concerns me. I think what we are seeing is the early stages of a demographic crisis or population collapse that will have transpired over the course of this century. I personally believe that social media AND dating apps are a huge cause of what we are seeing here. I graduated high school in 2008, by this point the internet and social media existed but it was nothing like what we saw a decade later. Things in this time frame were still normal, late 90s through early 2010s I remember people still socialized normally, they dated who was around them, etc. You can see a clear shift when dating apps emerged on the scene in 2014, there are a lot of stats to back this up. I also think instagram, only fans and others just added to this. We are now seeing the early stages of AI and you should expect to see this technology really take off over the course of the not too distant future. I believe that you will see a massive push for development in this field because the higher powers are fully aware that there is a demographic crisis. I am expecting a society where AI and automation takes over much of what a human can do right now. As time goes on, this technology will become increasingly more advanced. We will get to a point where a human cannot compete with AI. This could lead to something like universal basic income but I also have a feeling that it will be a very extreme society of haves or have nots.

[@Atlas718]

@@johjoh1203 I would say its hard to be able to do that. Society grows bigger and bigger and ideologies change, communities naturally divide because opinions and values diversify. Currently most people care about their own communities, either it be 2-3+, big or small. And I can't really blame them for that. It is hard to fight for something that you don't even believe in. Let alone that people are struggling, they don't have the time and energy to care for everyone, jobs have been kind of rough and many still try to find their own meaning in life, especially during Covid, the effects still linger. People simply have their families (siblings, parents, etc.) some friends and they are apart of a community that shares their hobby or interest, I believe thats enough. Wanting to live a peaceful life and share happy moments with people you enjoy being around shouldn't be so negatively viewed. It is hard to have a collective sense when it comes to groups large as a society or a nation, because of such a polarization of opinions and values. But when it comes to smaller communities as I mentioned earlier, people are already doing that.

[@bobronsons5780]

the family set up doesn't guarantee sht. If her mom is a feminist to ANY degree she is lost brother; even if her father taught her right

[@theanonymspysandwich]

You know what kind of people consume and work most? Atomized people. That's what all of this is about.

[@i.d.modisett9176]

Sounds like the girls are dating the same guys

[@someone-ji2zb]

Most men cannot provide for a family on a single income currently. So while I believe it is deplorable for women to whore themselves out every single date with the top end guys; I also do not expect them to be too excited at the prospect of a guy who cannot provide for a family. Sadly it is the times we live in. The average man in the US, under 40, currently makes around 39k a year. It isn't feasible in most parts of the country.

[@chibble3591]

I’m 21 and have had no success with women. I know I’m not ugly, I work out, and have a good head on my shoulders. It’s really demoralizing when you get rejected/stood up dozens of times. It’s also embarrassing when your family asks you about girlfriends. I’m worried that if I ever do find a partner I will be looked down on due to not having any experience.

[@C63Bez]

Keep going bro don’t give up

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

At least nobody's ever told you "eww you're short." Only takes a couple of those to kill your self-esteem.

[@chibble3591]

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor sorry to hear that man

[@Bogtog777]

Bro, I would spend the rest of my life in prison if a female said that to me. @@the_inquisitive_inquisitor

[@andrewevans7992]

Older you get the more experience women will have ans less you will have. Im 27 with no experience, its freaking brutal.

[@deltacharlieecho4732]

I’m sick of having to be the father that the women I’ve dated never had. It just feels gross. I’ve been engaged twice and never do it again.

[@andrewevans7992]

Least you got that far.. I can’t even mentally Comprehend getting a date or even spending time with a lady. I don’t see myself ever with someone..

[@wolfman_jagermeistro8445]

​@@andrewevans7992fr this dude complaining about something millions of dudes wish they had.

[@d7656]

Man that year and a half I spent alone thanks to COVID screwing with my only ability to meet people at the time (through school) really fucked me up. It’s 2023 and I’m still trying to pickup the pieces

[@jacksonbilly9979]

You're weak

[@danny8063]

stay strong!

[@yeflynne]

Yea Biden doing corona time caused so much damage

[@aim-for-greatn3z947]

It's not that bad actually. Most people hate to be alone because they TRULY don't understand themselves enough to accept themselves being alone!

[@ericprieto4348]

u sound like a beta

[@BateMasterJeff9887]

29 and been single ever since birth lol

[@cameronmcmurtrey2001]

Me and my ex broke up due to finances and she started dating a doctor twice her age that had other girlfriends as well. Now that women have become the top earning sex but won’t date down. So their sharing the same top 10% of men

[@bendover7841]

how tf does a doctor have the time to handle multiple hoes?

[@u-shanks4915]

Public humiliation and outcasting is probably the only way to solve this problem Don’t get me started on stigma Keep insulting them

[@MikeLee-x8e]

@@u-shanks4915 No, repealing the 19th is how you solve this problem. Why can't people just understand?

[@WailOfDoom]

There’s a reason we had set up society the way we did prior. Then we let pussies and morons into positions of governance, and they completely demolished the Western world. This is why revolutions and wars occur. This isn’t the first time sht like this has happend in human history.

[@huntermonostori7650]

For me it’s like i don’t have much to look forward too. I’m 18, a accomplished high school athlete in multiple sports, voted best looking in my high school, 4.0, devoted to my faith, constantly working on myself in many ways, but with todays standards and everything i always feel like I’m still not enough….it’s like nobody cares about us. We are the ones expected to provide, we fight the wars, we come back, get divorced, get hooked on drugs, become homeless, kill ourselves….and nobody cares. It’s like we got nothing to look forward too.

[@huntermonostori7650]

@@GohersWay lol i did think of that. I heard Japan is nice

[@merkkkalmost]

So true

[@ronaldguadamuzz7678]

Suck to you to be born in a messed-up generation. Good luck.

[@Wittgensteinien]

Not wrong.

[@thelighthouse8051]

Id recommend looking at some of 1stmans videos man. You might find them enlightening the way he talks about mens lives. Truth is, young guys are at the bottom of the totem pole. We get better with age.

[@nmf220]

I spent a lot of time in my early 20s chasing women and not focused enough on a stable life and financials. At some point during the same thing over and over, I decided focusing on and building my career is more rewarding. I am now 28 and made a lot of strides in my career without all the distractions in my way.

[@DanSmeed]

Dating is the #1 thing that have made me feel like the most epic loser one can ever be. When I don't bother with it I feel a lot better. Even good for the most part. For example my last experience was an absolute nightmare. Got really passionate about a girl and she wasn't into me at all. I don't know if that's even true though, because women aren't always honest and there's always the confusion you get from mixed messages. But, she didn't at least have the feelings on the level that I had. It was a nightmare to be forced to accept that I had to go on without her, while she's living her life with other men. I can sometimes still feel that self doubt from time to time. "What kind of loser am I if I can't even get the woman I want." I grew up with seeing relatives and family members being romantically successful. Especially some of my relatives are those kind of couples that were always that unit of those two. Couples that met in the 1960s or 70s and they're still together now! My father ended up getting divorced. But he at least had those good years with a woman he loved and they got three kids. When it comes to dating nowadays. I don't even have the mental energy for that. My hope is that I might get to know some woman organically, without needing to think of it as taking part in a competitive game. That's just depressing. Constantly overthinking your every move and it causes hatred, anger and resentment towards women to be a part of all the BS that's going on in modern dating. I want a woman to look at me like I'm a human being. Not try to get into the head of some idiot with a checklist containing 10+ points on what she's demanding from a man, while simultaneously not offering anything more special than all the other average women are offering. And perhaps even being a modern feminist who will mostly cause conflict.

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

Simplest thing in the world. Younger girls are marrying older men. They get everything that way including the father figure they never had. Don't believe it ask em they'll tell you.

[@chriswilton9976]

You DO NOT want a girl with "daddy issues".

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

@@chriswilton9976 agreed but tell them that...

[@carlin843]

@Zeke Verhoef Gigacope

[@andrewevans7992]

@Conan the Barbarian ya ok pal 😂😂

[@TheIKrushalot]

Here is my two cents. I have been single for two years now. It appears to me females have zero interest in getting in a relationship, a true relationship. So, if I am right, what is the point for me to even try at this point? I am a pretty successful guy, mildly attractive, zero baggage, and I feel like I have no chance. But, this is the society we live in now. I don’t even fight it, it is what it is.

[@julesb2415]

We want relationships but with guys that see us as humans now broad generalizations. "Females" is the quickest way to make a pussy dry. Consider going for girls that are Kim k look alike 10s.

[@andrewevans7992]

You gotta have drama dude.. their lives are so worthless and boring they need something to cry,complain and blame their failures on someone else

[@RR-et6zp]

@@andrewevans7992 exactly

[@courtneyharris1006]

Hypergamy makes it so that women by nature want to mate up. Physically and socioeconomically. Social media and hookup culture has compounded this instinct as to where women select top guys in phenotype and status growing more indifferent to the average guy and further sophisticating her taste in men placing a new competitive pressure on men for even average women. The end result is certain guys have a harem of women they have no incentive to commit to(Or have multiple women in situationships that may seem like relationships to them) while less attractive guys are ignored.

[@danny8063]

In a nutshell....

[@yeflynne]

This has happened in ancient times, the king compared to farmer

[@courtneyharris1006]

@@yeflynne We used traditionalism to solve this side of our nature but now we are back as traditionalism has fallen. Touched-starved sons and harem daughters everywhere.

[@rissikesthiyagarajah2205]

History repeat itself like the fall of: India, Greek,Roman and in the future the western civilisation

[@zachaddington5264]

Women want the pretty boys and bad boys now days or want them to be 6 foot something hot and good looking

[@sethrobinson28]

Married people always jealous of singles and try to call us weird 😂

[@zerus4435]

All guys who are married these days are indirectly slaves.😂😂

[@boondoggle4820]

I don’t understand the obtuseness of the people who make the laws in this country. This is a direct result of the laws that you’ve passed and the values that you’ve pushed for the last 50 years. I don’t know how you can vilify male sexuality, be as shallow, cynical, immature and reductive about sex and relationships as most people especially average guys are in this country, pass a law that deems it a form of attack and abuse to express attraction or attempt to initiate a relationship or to say anything sexual, all of which only targets men because women are seen as inherently dutiful nonsexual beings, creating the constant risk of being fired, having your career destroyed or being thrown in jail, and then wonder why so many men aren’t in relationships or having sex. The old men in power are so focused on maintaining their myth that women are inherently innocent nonsexual beings, because of your shame, cynicism and immaturity about sexuality, and thinking that all men are the same because that’s how they are, that they pass ridiculous laws and rules that have these results. Yes technology and dating apps are a part of it, but they’re more of a symptom than a cause. It’s because of these other things that people are surreptitious about seeking relationships and sex in the first place. You likely don’t have this problem in countries that don’t have this toxic environment even though the same technology exists.

[@mr.goldenproductions_0143]

Excellent comment. Spot on about one facet of the problem.

[@who_we_are______5926]

We have to spread awareness man bring new light on this so our fellow man can see that he ain't alone

[@kekethetoad]

✡🥸😈

[@AtheismF7W]

Woah easy there tiger. Not healthy to spit so many facts at once.

[@KD400_]

Unbelievable man. U just explained it so well. Please plaster this comment on every channel u go on.

[@alkaholik7924]

I'm 39. I've used to follow women around looking for relationships/dates. Haven't tried for it in years. I have too much money now (which I need to protect) and my standards are too high (after meeting some amazing women). I've dated several international women as well and I can confidently say women in the West are degraded in their character. Once you value yourself you'll never date some 50+ body count girl again.

[@stockholmpublishings2937]

thing is, how many 30-40+ western women are we reading about these days that are happy? 0 (except the ones dating billionaires). they really have degraded themselves these days for the quick fix of a ONS, choosing it instead of true love and happiness.

[@mol4805]

Stockholm publishings Men are doing this too, at least the most desirable men these days. They have so many options and go for the easy lay rather than put effort into a real relationship with a “good girl”. The happy western women are the religious ones, who don’t sleep around before marriage and are devoted to their families.

[@jkfd97]

Your point is correct, being intimate with a foreign woman means you are unable to stomach the presence of any Western man-with-tits on any basis. The number one reason being they actually trigger the notifier in your brain that this is a woman I am currently interacting with.

[@jkfd97]

@@mol4805 The Amish ones, yes. They and Afghan women, after having their rights recently seized from them, shall be the happiest women on planet Earth in ten years.

[@johnfisher8401]

@@stockholmpublishings2937 all goes back to the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations who have been psyoping women since WWI.

[@jeffreyblanton9877]

My son is 21 and chooses to be single. He is a very smart tall handsome guy but he just doesn’t want to deal with a relationship. He once took a girl out and she ordered the most expensive food on the menu and he was done with her after that. After a few more dates with other young ladies he decided he had enough. He just can’t tolerate certain things very well and would prefer to do his own thing. It’s a new generation for sure.

[@jamessteele7102]

At least he had some dates by 21. Some young guys haven’t even had those crumbs. What has been done to young men is criminal.

[@andrewevans7992]

@@jamessteele7102im 27 and never even kissed a girl. Im tall n good looking cause all i do is get stared at or they play games , but whats the point if most women my age already have kids and have a bodycount of 40+

[@UtkarshSingh-qw6md]

@@jamessteele7102 It's all for good looking and handsome men. Not for us.

[@jamessteele7102]

@@UtkarshSingh-qw6md Things were much different from the 1950s to about the 1980s. There was a woman for virtually every man. And women were far less promiscuous. It wasn’t perfect but it was far better than what exists now. This current situation is cruel to men and must be changed.

[@UtkarshSingh-qw6md]

@@jamessteele7102 It can't be changed. It's natural selection at the days end.

[@dabossman5838]

It makes complete sense. Women are sharing men

[@olivur_1459]

Men share women too