Is Being Fat A Choice? Fit Women vs Fat Women | Middle Ground

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[@meg4eva02]

nah bruv

[@NuhaHabila]

Hi❤

[@Idekatthispoint0000]

How was this comment 18 hours ago when it posted 1 hour ago?

[@meg4eva02]

@@Idekatthispoint0000 they scheduled the vid

[@gfkenya9926]

I pay to not see ads

[@TheOneWhoIsWise]

Telling a dangerously overweight person not to lose weight because they're "beautiful" is like telling an alcoholic not to stop drinking because they're "fun".

[@OutdoorCleaningDoctor-du1tr]

It's okay to be beautiful, unfortunately health and beauty is not the same thing. Just because they're beautiful doesn't mean they don’t need to lose weight and be healthy.

[@blazenfate]

​@OutdoorCleaningDoctor-du1tr that was a lot of nothing you said.

[@Natasha-zd1xg]

@@blazenfatei think it went over your head. They turned the original comment into the start of a conversation you would have with a person who has the same same pov as the original commenter.

[@tbobontiyu]

Nice copy pasted comment. Do you have anything new to add to the discussion aside from fishing for likes?

[@JacqueReads]

@@tbobontiyu source? ill wait.

[@Maryam-ev9cf]

Obese isnt a bad word. Theyre acting like its a slur . If youre obese then youre obese .

[@EverydayJOEFitness]

Exactly. I don't think she actually realized that it's a medical term

[@VenusValentine-r3p]

just because something wasnt intended to be used as a slur doesnt mean it isn't / won't be used as such.

[@XxOrlenaXx]

@@VenusValentine-r3pit’s a medical term get a grip

[@Maryam-ev9cf]

@VenusValentine-r3p I agree .but in the video it wasnt used as a degrading word but they still acted like it was a one.

[@EverydayJOEFitness]

@@Maryam-ev9cf exactly. She responded as though they were insulting her character, when they made it very clear that they were talking about the literal denotation

[@cb_productions362]

Saying you’re not obese because u can walk without getting out of breath is the lowest standard😭

[@TheColerain11]

I mean she obviously doesn't set high standards for herself lol

[@EverydayJOEFitness]

That was sad to hear. That just comes down to education about what terms like obesity really mean.

[@nathannguyen2041]

I question what they define as a "hike".

[@spilled_ink]

I believe it was a comparison method, like she can do hikes and long walks without being out of breath, but when going with her thinner friends, they do. Overall, it's not the definition, but sometimes reality is body shape doesn't equivate to physically able.

[@IsaacRoger-c8d]

@@TheColerain11Stop being rude

[@QueenSchatz]

My grocery bill went DOWN when I started my fitness journey. You're portioning yourself, not buying snacks, and not eating out therefore i save money by being healthy.

[@alyssabrown6480]

For sure. Also I dont grab random snacks and drink at gas station. I stop going out because I can't control what they do with the food (less oil, less seasonings etc..). I only drink water and black coffee so no more starbucks run 😂.

[@lalakerspro]

@@alyssabrown6480 Im pretty skinny but i wish i had the same disipline, every trip to the gas station im walking out with something lmao

[@glorydominguez9930]

it’s just an excuse!!! the real answer wasn’t cost factors it’s lazyness. talking about not having money or time, no. you can see people that are in debt and don’t have time cs they’re either studying 24/7 or at work for over 60 hours ( like students or doctors) a week and yet they always find time for healthy food.

[@somethingpeachyy]

I will say, snacks are very expensive and most packaged things in grocery stores are very expensive. Even the salad packs are $5 each and If I get 5 then thats $25 when I can buy the ingredients for $15 to make the salad that serves way more than 5 potions. I'm overweight (not obese if there's any difference) and I found that shopping at places like Aldi where they only have certain items and not a lot of variety helps with discipline. Basically, I cant eat Oreos or cake if the only store I shop at and can afford doesn't sell it.

[@alyssabrown6480]

@@somethingpeachyy mainly it was the sodium and sugar for me because of my health problem. That is pretty much everything processed so I have to cook from scratch and no random snack in the pantry. Beside my main meals, I can only drink tea, coffee, or water.

[@Adi_digital_diary]

Obesity is a medical term. It’s like saying you don’t have diabetes just because you “feel” fine. Just because you don’t “feel” obese, doesn’t mean you aren’t.

[@Justin_Bailey_NES]

Just because Im missing both my arms doesnt mean I'm an amputee. I don't "feel" like an amputee...

[@EverydayJOEFitness]

I don't "feel" like I have bad eyesight. Yes, I'm legally blind but I don't identify as blind.

[@kathy6979]

I don't "feel" like an epileptic. I feel fine after a seizure and I don't even remember them. Yes, I've been diagnosed with brain scans, but I don't identify as epileptic.

[@l0velyfl0wer]

At the end of the day, whatever that woman was talking about was a showcase of her denial

[@amakachuks5908]

exactly what i was thinking when i heard her say that

[@gabrielaoli3140]

the red dress lady is a tough love kinda lady. the way she spoke to the woman who said had suicidal thoughts really made me emotional, it was really beautiful.

[@yamelolvera8782]

I love her she is so Lana Del Rey core 💖

[@ohklahoma7376]

​@@yamelolvera8782 You're so real for that

[@Abby-p8h]

I cried lol

[@ezriotic]

i teared up. that was beautiful.

[@ezriotic]

@@Abby-p8h I DID TOO

[@sh8534]

Obesity is so common now that people genuinely think that your weight is only a problem when you’re at the point of being bedridden

[@gtrgodxxx]

Also most think they're a bit overweight not realising that they and everyone around them are obese

[@nadiasspace548]

no,fr there’s so many obese people now all over the world so they don’t think anything is wrong with them since there’s so many people who look just like them🙂‍↔️

[@teeminator30]

Come to our elementary school in Seattle. >40% of the kids, and >90% of the teachers are obese. School lunch is where it all started. Your favorite politicians love you so much.

[@kissme1518]

This made me laff

[@CodenamePrince]

Skinny people are now the minority in the United States.

[@joneal0284]

"I've been medically obese since I was 12 but I was not obese" - the willfully ignorant

[@HeyWonderSally]

I mean she’s not wrong if she was a healthy weight and she was just short she can be considered obese or overweight. I can be healthy and fit at 180 but that’s considered obese for my height. I’d have to weigh 130-140 to be “healthy” but nah she’s definitely obese which is okay to say it’s not a slur which they acted like 😂

[@joneal0284]

@HeyWonderSally she is wrong. Obese is a medical term based on BMI, regardless of whether anyone believes in the validity or value of BMI as a worthwhile metric is irrelevant.

[@robdiregs7962]

@@HeyWonderSally Youre not a healthy weight. Thats why bmi takes into account height and weight. Its how much mass you are taking up.

[@mikel6090]

@@HeyWonderSally No way you are healthy and fit at 180

[@pixiepisces2658]

My doctor told me this at the same age I didn’t look or feel obese. Gave me an eating disorder

[@patriciapaul21]

"would you consider me obese".... people sometimes are really blind to their outer appearance

[@molleybrackney9585]

No it’s just delusions and lack of accountability like lady it’s not a matter of consideration the definition of obese is to be 100 pounds or more overweight and you clearly are

[@palemoonlight96]

The modern movement that tries to convince society that every body type is healthy, is so dangerous; basic self love is absolutely compatible with knowing that you're currently in an unhealthy condition that has to be changed

[@desean3402]

Don’t ask questions you don’t want answers too 😭🤣

[@w_ill0w]

she was asking that to understand what the other girl considered obese😭

[@EverydayJOEFitness]

@@desean3402 and the fit girl tried to be polite, too!

[@joeyjo7553]

People say that it’s expensive to eat healthy.. medical bills and medications will be even more expensive.

[@NicoleGizowski]

Exactly. Pay now or pay later with your health.

[@vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112]

This comment tastes American 😆

[@paulmarden3301]

In America it's expensive. But I get your point.

[@MrNeroSurge]

@@paulmarden3301 grocers are everywhere. or just eat cheap fast food but at much less quantity. you dont have to finish all the food lol

[@Bezabella21]

Yess!!!!And is so much stress if, you a medical problem, the stress of going to a doctor,,the walks,the spent time,taking medication maybe you woundn't use if you would be healthy

[@Genam888]

Frozen food doesn’t have to be unhealthy. A big bag of frozen vegetables is cheaper in the longevity of vegetables, and it’s still incredibly healthy.

[@basvriese1934]

Better yet, frozen vegetables are actually healthier than 'fresh' ones

[@itscthuwu5125]

@@basvriese1934 What? No.

[@elyse370]

​@@itscthuwu5125 wait they're not?💀

[@key63727]

i think shes just talking about microwavable meals

[@thatbeaatcch9884]

​@@itscthuwu5125they actually are sometimes because they're frozen at peak ripeness. Is it true for all no, but in some cases it's reality

[@tamibayus3390]

The one in red...that confidence boost towards the end. Can we just record this and play for every human as a daily positive affirmation?

[@justaname4136]

“Believe it or not they consider me obese” girl… I’m gonna hold your hand when I tell you this.

[@anibb05]

Guaranteed all the overweight women here are BMI morbidly obese

[@Xkfxfitnessx]

I believe it

[@KANIFLASH]

😂😂😂

[@dandel1985]

@@KANIFLASHHAHAAAAAAA

[@UncZion223]

wildddd lol

[@dr.hiccup573]

Eatings unhealthier isn’t CHEAPER… it’s just EASIER. A mcdonalds meal is like $10. For one single meal. I can spee $10 on ingredients and get like 7 meals out of it.

[@stamourbeaulieu]

Like what?

[@dr.hiccup573]

@@stamourbeaulieu $1 pack of buns, $6 back of ground beef, $2 tomato sauce, $3 spices. a little over 10 but enjoy Sloopy Joes that’ll last you an entire week. Not just one “fast” meal. Or a box of Pasta for $5, sauce for $2. That’s $7 total. Spaghetti for at least a couple days.

[@lolaaq]

@@stamourbeaulieupasta is cheap, rice is cheap. Pair that with a protein and some veg. You have a balanced meal. Pasta is 80p Minced beef is £2 Pasta sauce is 80p Broccoli is £1.10 It’s cheaper to cook your own meals at home. Eating fast food is a privilege

[@silferbuu86]

​@@stamourbeaulieulet's say you spend $10 a day. That's $70 a week. Spend $20 on rice, assuming you have water. Get a party pack of chicken thighs or legs for $15-$20. Ground beef in bulk is $10. Broccoli and other veggies are $5 in total tops for a week. Make a meal plan for the week and section it off. You still have $20-$25 leftover.

[@jimmyjohn7548]

so true

[@mybootscamewithoutstraps]

"When you see me, do you think I'm obese?" Yes. I am a person who's also medically obese, and I do believe you're obese. Just to clarify...that says nothing about who you are as a person, but merely answers the question asked.

[@AcesMR6]

I’d disagree on your last sentence, it does say something about who they are as a person… For example somebody that’s big and muscular, u know they work out a lot, have dedication, etc. Apply that to obese people, sure it’s not fair for everything gene wise but that doesn’t stop people from judging u in public

[@NoOne-rh1ll]

ong being obese just refers to your BMI and other factors, not how you look. If you think about it, bodybuilders on steroids that are massive are also technically obese. it's just a medical term.

[@CarysCreatesThings]

@@AcesMR6Obese does not always equal unhealthy though. I think that was the point OP was making. The older fit woman said she is clinically obese. Someone who is fit and muscular could still be classed as obese because the BMI index is highly flawed.

[@DaDualityofMan]

@@AcesMR6Well I was bulking last year and was obese, but nobody would thought it by looking at me because of my height and muscle

[@Chill_Enigma]

This exactly! People have a tendency to be offended when someone is categorized as obese. Being obese doesn't, by default mean you are a bad person. It just means you are obese. This is coming from a former obese person. People have lost common sense.

[@cieraleben5660]

Loved the woman in the pink two piece, she understand both sides and has compassion for everyone

[@norzomiix]

yes exactly my thoughts!!!

[@KatherineVFX]

Her and the black girl they were so nice

[@NONAME-uk8nh]

I love how the fit group has different body types , showing its not a certain physique that can be considered fit

[@GigglewithFelix321]

Fit has a range, obesity is just obesity.

[@era8843]

You must be obeist 😂

[@Potato37728]

@@era8843you can’t even spell obese… consider going back to school.

[@brebre8313]

Yea but with social media running everything, curvier bodies look better

[@DennisRønnebæk]

IMO 2 of the women in the fit group are plus size.

[@gigicastillo2032]

Working out and changing my diet got me out of my depression. It’s just taking that first step to a new chapter.

[@_vital]

👌🏼💯

[@living-in-a-wasteland]

you promise?

[@Cuervorojoo]

Yup

[@justinblackfacetrudeau8943]

ME TOO

[@britterthecritter4531]

me too! and I was underweight. Weightlifting and eating more (healthily) while learning nutrition was a huge factor in my eating disorder recovery and helped me get off antidepressants.

[@yahainHotPink]

Body Positivity was created for people with physical disabilities too. Not just different body sizes

[@mariannehavisham8323]

And stuff like skin colour and natural hair and age

[@haydenrhead7692]

It’s for stuff you can’t change about your body. Weight can be.

[@Cerberus984]

Body positivity was created by conglomerates who own the candy factory & the dieting companies. Creating & "solving" the problem?

[@Debziiie]

And people with scars etc. Then it got hijacked

[@EverydayJOEFitness]

​@@Debziiienailed it. It got hijacked. We could probably call this era Second Wave body positivity, and it has a whole different feel to it

[@billyjoosten4840]

Person with PCOS here, you can't 'fix' it, there is no cure. But you can 100% learn to live with it and figure out which foods and work outs work for your body and which don't. It's not an excuse, but rather an explanation on why it is harder to lose weight. The hardest part of losing weight, arguably, is keeping up, and not dropping whatever you're doing, and when there is very little to no result, like often with PCOS, it becomes harder to continue, because you're not being 'rewarded', but it is not impossible to lose weight with PCOS, it will just be harder, and that sucks.

[@DawnAAA]

Agreed it is harder. I have pcos from 95 kgs to 56kgs then it went up again to 66kgs then i went down again to 53kgs. Discipline is the key but as you get older its tough to stick to what diet works. Its pure commitment.

[@joshuathompson6690]

I don't understand why people think you have to eat, gluten-free, 1000% organic expensive stuff to be healthier. Most people are obese because they eat too much. If they ate less food on a diet they would save money, being obese is expensive.

[@justinmaxon12]

It sounds harsh but it’s so true lol

[@MsDudette21]

also u can get frozen veggies. shiiet thats what i do! they are mad cheap! i dont get a bunch of separate veggies and cut em up. also, with fruit ill have a bag of one type of fruit rather than getting a few different kind. I like to get cuties and then maybe the next time i go shopping ill get a bag of grapefruits. :}

[@Tinycadancer]

Considering gluten comes from filler “foods” yes you should stop eating gluten to be healthy… Eating gluten free isn’t hard either… You simply quit eating stuff made out of most grains… Grains are not pertinent to our diet… They can mess around with the food pyramid all they want but people do not NEED to eat grains.

[@rubiedoobieeeeeee]

I agree i feel like foot a lot of people it’s not necessarily what you eat but how much you’re eating.

[@royboon2128]

ya just look at japan

[@trishholloway1406]

Her saying she doesn't get out of breath while hiking, but she's out of breath while talking is crazy

[@brandywood1054]

I noticed that too her lung capacity went up to a full boil when she started talking. And yet she said she can hike up mountains and not go out of breath I don't believe it.

[@ryancooper3629]

Consider that to many, "hiking" means walking on a flat gravel trail in the park near their house.

[@a.m97]

I noticed it as soon as she started talking. She was most likely nervous, she’s also probably talking in front of people and the camera. Which is pretty nerve wrecking.. not to mention it’s an emotionally heavy subject.

[@Nooklet]

I was thinking the same thing. I'm obese and I was out of breath just watching her yap.

[@thegoons3415]

She is just making stuff up. Her blood pressure probably like a fire hydrant. Probably eat greasy food every day

[@AshleyAlvarez-rq9ue]

Portion control is free. Walking is free. You don't need to completely change your diet and get a gym membership to lose weight. I'm so tired of these misconceptions around weight loss. It doesn't need to be expensive or hard.

[@annaku_lionsluggg]

i had an obese friend who lost weight simply by cutting sugary drinks, and she never worked out.

[@zz-ih5xe]

Yep. My dad was diagnosed with T2 diabetes and has practically reversed it by eating less, dietary changes and brisk walking daily. He's lost a ton of weight. Many people just can't be bothered to put in the effort.

[@ChelsiBerglund]

For a super easy solution; KZbin videos are free. All the workout videos on here since 2020 are definitely a game changer.

[@SogratefulJoe]

It’s literally cheaper to eat less. Less food equals less money.

[@nikitamarynich1794]

Where there's a will, there's a way.

[@savanahchapman7220]

The way they didn’t argue and was so kind and were so vulnerable sharing their stories online is inspiring and to all those women remember you are beautiful and thank you so much for sharing your stories.

[@SqueakyMcGee]

not Lupe out here acting like obese is a subjective term

[@k.labpickle]

Someone who is literally size 4* is considered obese… that is literally 4’11” and 135lbs. If you’re under that you can’t breastfeed a child safely, if you’re under that you are not legally allowed to give blood on military posts Medical diagnosis for obesity does not matter because the BMI scale is not accurate

[@junipers-rings]

@@k.labpicklefirst of all 135 is a normal weight for taller people.

[@k.labpickle]

@@junipers-rings That’s why I gave the height. BMI is based on height and weight

[@Railios103]

Show us a 4'11 135 that isn't chunky

[@mistarbeanz]

@@k.labpickle 4'11 and 135lbs is not considered obese, it's considered overweight. You would have to be 4'11 and 150lbs to be in the obese category.

[@francescam.1165]

Notice how most of the girls who are fit have better energy levels and seem more upbeat overall? Working out 100% helps with mental health and mood boosters.

[@frummel403]

100% I agree! But people shouldn't be so harsh to judge others if they're not able to get there (yet). Circumstances, environment, mental state to begin with are all factors. Empathy and kindness would be a lot more helpful than just bully overweight people

[@aaliyahrandom]

Working out releases endorphins. Endorphins make you happy. Happy people dont k*** their husbands.

[@Ace-sm2zu]

idk red dress lady lowkey bad vibes

[@LilT2o00]

opposite effect for me. Been in the gym for over a decade now and my body dysphoria is worse now than before I started and my confidence is much lower and I feel worse about myself mentally, lol

[@ivareskesner2019]

That is not exactly a mystery.

[@gabriellerivera1978]

10:07 As a person that was formally plus size, I can say that weight blindness is real…being able to breathe and walk are basic human functions that you can do without difficulty and still be dying. Being obese is no joke…it’s a silent killer. When you get down to a healthy weight you can really tell the difference that your normal was not normal.

[@lisabelw7782]

THIS. I struggle with fluctuating weight and I‘m currently the heaviest I‘ve ever been (US size 12) and I can absolutely feel my knees now every time I walk my dog compared to when I weighed much less.

[@eleseclarke6038]

She didn't just say walk she said hike but I get what you are saying

[@rafaelmusacchio5257]

Too much Common Sense!! my social activists brains are burning!!!!

[@aoutsky]

Young people have a tendency to think they're invincible. She's in for a rude surprise in her 30s and 40s.

[@zechs16]

Far doesn't mean you can't have stamina or increased lung capacity. When your bigger, you body has to do more work. A skinny unfit person's body doesn't nearly work as hard as a far parson.

[@sgtgandolf8797]

All I hear is a bunch of excuses from the overweight people. I have a full time job and multiple children and I still cook almost every night.

[@erin12111]

Agreed!!! What irritates me is the “not everyone has that time” Like everyone can wake at 5am 😂 why can’t you wake up?? Hahaha

[@robdiregs7962]

The ironic thing is they put the food in their mouth, no one else. They could eat less food and it would be quicker. Addiction is real

[@TheTimmytomster]

people just dont wanna admit they cant cook xD i know plenty of people say "i just dont have time to cook" then when i see them cook/eat their cooked foods its horrible hahaha

[@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699]

I agree, they seemed more negative overall than the other group. Btw how much do you make?

[@t6nia]

@@erin12111This! They are lazy, they chose this life style. Why should we empathise with lazy people who are aware they are not healthy but refuse to commit. Don't try to normalise😊 obesity just because you simply cannot be bothered to make a change. 😂😂

[@chandansimms9167]

Not trying too sound harsh but the woman saying she’s not obese is deluded. If at that body weight she’s not skinny, lean, muscular or a bit fluffy there’s only a few more categories she could be

[@roza6672]

She's not saying she's not obese

[@beenjammin1801]

@@roza6672she definitely was, just bc she doesn’t get out of breath on a walk doesn’t mean she’s not obese ..

[@yevmk6031]

It’s reverse body dysmorphia

[@billhesford6098]

She prefers to lie to herself. A liar, to herself. Not sure that can be fixed.

[@minovictor]

@@roza6672what is she saying?

[@Rosesrosie3]

As an obese person, other obese people make hella excuses. I’m a stay at home mom, I have a baby, I’m tired of being big. I used to make all those excuses too, but we have to care for ourselves and be honest. I’m only 19 and I have high blood pressure. For the longest time I lied to myself just so I could stay comfortable. One day I just sat down with myself and realized, although life is hard and there are many challenges, I want to live for my son. I’ve been doing better now. I’ve lost almost 20lbs and I’ve started going to the gym. I’m looking forward to see more results and be a healthier version of me. I suggest other people try. I know it’s hard, but take care of yourself, you have people that care about you.

[@HarmoniousGamon]

I don't know you but I just want to say I'm proud of you 😊 your child is seeing their mom doing her best to be her best. That's an amazing thing to see as a kid.

[@Kat-mi4fg]

you’re doing well!! Keep it going :)

[@AlexPinkowish-z3q]

from a fellow teen parent, stay strong! you are doing incredible from what this comment tells me and i know firsthand how insanely hard it can be so the fact you are doing well and found the bandwith to seek improvement in your personal life is really awesome

[@keisha7412]

You’re doing great 😊

[@corpsmankind]

You can do this! Read some David Goggins and get some!

[@Justin_Bailey_NES]

Okay, Lupe doesn't know what obese means. It's a medical term, dear.

[@Getinthevan9]

Pretty sure she said she's been medically obese since she was 12, but is saying she isn't obese because she can walk up a hill.

[@Ray03595]

@@Getinthevan9Confused if she is even confused. Sounds like she just takes offense to being labeled by that medical term.

[@Getinthevan9]

@@Ray03595 yup

[@LOhateVE]

All 4 of them are morbidly Obese, not even just obese. If they keep at it I would be surprised they make it past 50.

[@azureavocado5195]

0:51 Lupe can’t pronounce “thyroids” and doesn’t know what “physique “ means. Idk how she even got on this show😂

[@mirixi]

“would you consider me obese?” yes girl… i was literally third of her size and still i was considered obese lol

[@cdlowe8]

I love the lady in red. She is so experienced, informed, straightforward, and honest.

[@rukkashi]

Yaa

[@jimmyramirez8844]

They need more of her

[@arinium691]

SHES SO PRETTY BRO

[@WavyDanny_]

@@arinium691🤔😐

[@iiclqx]

She’s great but the hair was definitely a choice haha

[@DevletGM]

9:23 "She's a little bit plus size" girl you're not a little bit plus size, you're just obese and that's totally fine to admit. This denial is what causes our own demises as human beings. I've been there done that until I lost 154 lbs.

[@greenwithenvee2337]

When she said that I was like HUH!?? A LITTLE BIT!?!?

[@gerlinplays1806]

i mean she did admit she was obese, no?

[@DevletGM]

@@gerlinplays1806Not at all. She said or implied at least, when someone would look at me they’d consider me “plus size” while medically (just a technicality) I am considered obese.

[@Nawizi1]

I thought she said "I am obese"

[@drooooop]

They think obese means the people on my 600 pound life. Half of America will be obese by the end of the decade.

[@ThefreeCommentator1]

if you're depressed eating healthy is even MORE important....

[@Just_Futzing_Around]

100% agree with that!

[@couples_cleanse]

Thankyou !!! Fr !

[@HaileysHealth]

When I’ve been depressed, like actually depressed, not sad or disappointed, I choose healthy food to improve. Plus, I’m so numb when I’m depressed, I can’t taste food anyway, so I don’t understand why someone would eat unhealthy when it doesn’t even create a dopamine hit. lol

[@CambieSweets]

Yes!!! Your brain and gut connected.

[@kendallpaige4160]

My mom died a few years back and I was severely depressed. I just laid down and did nothing. I’m not kidding, just laying down for days. My bf at the time was so helpful. At first he’d just come be with me, and eventually he’d force me to go to the gym for an hour. It’s the main thing that helped my depression at the time, getting out and moving. I didn’t want to, but it did help a ton.

[@TheAmericanPika]

I have psychiatrist-diagnosed chronic depression and PTSD. Working out is literally a lifeline for me. It greatly improves my mood, mental health, and energy levels, and gets me to eat and sleep on a schedule. Seeing your progress (no matter how little it is) is far more self-gratifying than lying in bed all day consumed with your dark thoughts. I know joining a gym can be a scary experience (even as a fit person who knows their way around a gym, first joining my new public gym was extremely intimidating), but taking that first step is the first step in gaining confidence and a new healthy and gratifying lifelong habit. You got this.

[@TheAmericanPika]

I also want to mention that as an EXTREMELY frugal person who has tip-toed the poverty line as a child and young adult, meal prepping with healthy, nutritious, and protein packed ingredients is FAR cheaper and lasts way longer than fast food and frozen dinners. I can make over a week’s worth of healthy and satisfying meals for $12-20, and I live in a pretty expensive state.

[@granmabern5283]

We have a gym nearby that is geared to help people with heart conditions, from high blood pressure all the way to last days. The people are all shapes and sizes, normal comfy clothing and very friendly. I had gone to ordinary gyms before and it felt awful to be there with the spandex strutters…

[@kattypower3202]

I also have the same diagnosis but can't afford the gym, or food (which is why I'm not obese). But Mental illness can really mess a person up and depression is literally known for making you lose motivation in anything, it's great how you found a passion and a benefit and it's helping you [proud] but everyone deals with depression and stress differently, which can be rooted from past or childhood experiences but that's a whole psychology textbook that I ain't getting into

[@TheAmericanPika]

@ I know, trust me. Sometimes I am in absolute despair thinking about having to get to the gym. But I push myself and have the best workout that my mental health will afford me, and I give myself grace when it’s not the best. I also couldn’t afford the gym for a long time so I get that too. Just find something that brings a bit of happiness. Even a 10 minute walk outside can help with mental and physical wellbeing. :)

[@Pontiacgrrl]

It was a constant battle between those who didn't want to offend and those who were very easily offended. And those characters kept changing throughout the video. Very accurate portrait of what our society currently is like.

[@tzvigrossman1872]

23:00 I thought she was the only non delusional one on this question... Until she started speaking... So basically they're all delusional on this one

[@tzvigrossman1872]

25:11 the truth will hurt ... But mens brains are wired to be attracted to healthy fit women's bodies... Might not be fair but the best personality in in the world cannot overcome mens biological wirering

[@mirainvierno7952]

Thank you for letting us know but this was never about you and what you are attracted to. So why do you answer a question nobody asked? 🤔​@@tzvigrossman1872

[@AndreBenjaminswife]

True

[@irish2661]

@@tzvigrossman1872and although they said attractiveness shouldnt be defined by men, even so, women view fit girls as their role models and who they want to become. ive never heard anyone said they wanna look like lizzo. so saying that fit girls are more attractive not just by men standards but by everyone is so valid. they just dont want to accept that fact😭

[@jaquelynmeza7729]

those big girls get so triggered. omg i used to be like that 😐 now that i lost weight i’ve noticed how insecure you rlly get. it really affects your brain. it’s not about looks. it literally affects so much.

[@DopamineFanatic]

Exactly

[@rattraining9491]

Exactly! after losing 25kg i am literally a different person. so much happier and social

[@SieMiezekatze]

Same I use to feel any words were a direct criticism to my person , I was so ashamed I couldn't even look down , being a healthy weight is a game changer in terms of overall happiness and self love

[@merittsnaivete2334]

I don’t think they’re triggered

[@LarissaJohnsondeel]

I used to be 290 lbs and am now 210 lbs (Still losing weight). I'm recovering from PP and hit 197 lbs before pregnancy but had to start again I got up to 240 lbs from pregnancy. I remember after I broke 200 lbs I wasn't picking fights with my partner, or feeling insecure about my body. My relationship with myself and my SO was thriving and I finally started being able to love deeply like I wanted. I felt alive, because I had pride in myself for working so hard. The insecurity is insane and a demon when you're overweight. These people are straight up capping if they say they don't feel insecure. They wouldn't get triggered from the word obese if they were healed.

[@sairenxo]

“Addiction is your brain telling you the problem is the solution”. I had to pause this video because as someone who’s in and out of recovery that’s a very powerful way to describe the cognitive dissonance I, and other addicts feel. Thank you

[@andy2641]

But it’s also not necessarily true. It’s true for some people, but there are plenty people who know their addiction is not the solution

[@TaiwanisMoving]

@@andy2641 Yeah I agree... it sound clever, but are... let's say food addicts really thinking that if they eat more food then they won't want be addicted any more? Do alcoholics think that drinking more booze will end their addiction to it? I don't think so, but would love to hear something to the contrary I think we for sure rationalize our addictions, or bargain with ourselves. But I just don't understand the quote

[@sairenxo]

@ everyone in recovery knows it’s not the solution. cognitive dissonance is when your mind is two ways basically

[@sairenxo]

@andy2641

[@sairenxo]

@@TaiwanisMoving what I got from the quote was that we keep doing it and feel like it helps us when it’s doing the opposite, I guess that’s how I interpreted it not sure if that’s what she meant

[@kscott5786]

The cool thing about excuses is when you fight for them, you get to keep them.

[@AmandaSchnaare]

Hearing all the excuses from the ladies that are bigger.. That used to be me and honestly, its so depressing to see them use the same excuses I did. -120 pounds later, my whole perspective is different.

[@AmiriHipHop]

Congratulations on dropping that 120 tho. That's not easy! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾.

[@Justin_Bailey_NES]

Congratulations, you earned your new body! Okay, if you used to think like them and you understand their logic (even though you don't agree with them now), what would you tell them to help them see the world the way that you now see it and help them change their behaviors?

[@HabitualJoker]

The same excuse is used by poor people that feel like they can’t get out of their poverty. Decisions and drastic life changes need to be made. Being poor is a choice.

[@P3rrineLover]

Very true. Especially when they say they don’t have the time but then attend a 40 minute Jubilee video.

[@alil2855]

Exactly!! I’m only 50 lbs down but I see a lot of the same excuses I used

[@mrtoxm8]

biggest issue with clients, "my life doesnt allow it" no it does... you have to make adjustments and make time "FOR YOURSELF"

[@noormustafa3]

100%

[@TheSweetSerenity7]

No it trully depends, there are lives that don't allow it.

[@SharayahKitten]

That was my issue, I kept saying I didn't have time up until I got fed up with my life and made the time. First year I lost over 100lbs just from making small life changes.

[@TheSweetSerenity7]

@@SharayahKitten So curious, what kind of changes did you make?

[@orqfer]

@@TheSweetSerenity7 Sacrificies aren't easy in anyone's life.

[@Justjulie286]

I have PCOS. I counted calories, go to the gym to strength train 2-3 times a week, did 10K steps or more a day, I worked on what I ate (protein packed, high fiber, aimed for 30g of protein or more in each meal, cut dairy, low in sugar) with a part time job that is at least 4 days a week of work, and go to school full time jammed pack with homework and studies that occupy 4 hours a day or more on homework, sometimes I do all nighters to finish bc of how many units I am taking. I got it done. lost 40 pounds....... I found the time, remained consistent, and put in the WORK. it is possible in my opinion. I went from 190 almost 200 to 150.

[@brebre8313]

You live with family? Because a part time job in America won't help you

[@mikilynn471]

@@brebre8313you can still make time to workout with a full time job. People spend hours on their phone, dedicate just 1 hr or half an hour to exercise and it can change your life. Make healthy choices when it comes to food. If you can only get fast food, get the cantina chicken bowl from taco bell, get the grilled chicken options, etc.

[@mikilynn471]

@@brebre8313she works part time AND is a full time student… This girl made the time for her health, which we are all capable of

[@JSmithy177]

This is incredible! Amazing work:)

[@Ummkelechi]

Wow that’s amazing! You worked hard❤ congratulations

[@Ryanh.hailey]

Notice how when they were asked if being fit is more attractive they all jumped to personality instead of looks and saying that it shouldn’t matter if “other people” find you attractive.

[@mikel6090]

Being fit demonstrates many different personality traits that are positive.

[@HolyHusky]

It’s objectively more attractive, anyone who says otherwise is lying or completely delusional.

[@j.j.juggernaut9709]

Because lots of ppl go from 10 to 0 the second they open their mouths 🤣

[@carah_777]

it is expensive to buy healthy food but it is even more expensive to pay hospital bills. Compare 15 dollars and 10000 dollars.

[@shiyuliu1723]

They’re acting like skinny people are eating healthy foods, it’s just self control 😂

[@MichelleLawrence-q7y]

What hospital bills are you referring to? I’m 36. I am overweight with PCOS. I don’t have mounting medical bills.

[@joshabilly81]

Not yet...​@@MichelleLawrence-q7y

[@blainebickle1178]

It isn't necessarily more expensive to eat healthy. Just depends on what you're eating

[@weightsallday2245]

@@blainebickle1178 It's also less expensive to eat 1 burger than it is to eat 5 burgers.

[@nihongopride]

The chica in red top needs to accept she is obese and is living a unhealthy lifestyle. There’s a lot of Hispanic people that are obese due to diet, lifestyle and choices they make. At the end of the day she needs to be accountable for the lifestyle decisions she makes.

[@gore-geousmombie4686]

So does the girl in the red dress that were all pretending is actually fit when she's clearly out of breath just sitting there.

[@SemekiIzuio]

Its the culture, Mexican food is f delicious but Mexican people are also very hardworking to make ends meet. They are very active people that go place to place by foot and buses. So in the US you can eat these Mexican dishes but arenr burning the calories because its a completely different lifestyle

[@off.arretezvousx]

The amount of mental gymnastics she is playing is so delusional. Facts will not care about her feelings.

[@BornInTheWrongTimes]

@@gore-geousmombie4686 Lol you can clearly tell she’s fit… I think you might just prefer girls with more thigh gap and/or smaller breasts 😂

[@kermit_da_fwog9397]

@@gore-geousmombie4686 What are you on. Is that you red top girl?

[@ryancunningham52]

Well this conversation was A LOT more peaceful than the one with men. 😅

[@MrMonny]

ikr im 100% a fit sider but wtf that one black fit guy oml

[@vinslungur]

This video is full of delusion

[@hectormurga3509]

@@vinslungurlmao true

[@mariok.5536]

​@@vinslungur 100%

[@booprice5473]

@@MrMonnyaha black people really be doing too much!

[@amandalago4311]

Not an easy conversation to have but these women did it so with so much grace, kindness, and empathy. Hope they all go on to live their best lives ❤

[@SirhcGaming]

A lot of the ‘its not in my control’ excuses were basically just ‘I can’t bring myself to do it’

[@Yumsa-gmaing]

They just lazy that’s about it your telling me I don’t have time but you sit on your phone or tv or doing nothing for 1hr a day fam just go do what your saying that you don’t have time to do

[@hearxtcarti]

some ppl have really bad ed’s for me i literally could not eat or gain ANYTHING for months and that’s definitely not my fault

[@Salivation_heart]

​@@hearxtcartiit's is though. You have a chance to get help and solve that issue. Unless you physically/medically can't.. you always can. Only you can help yourself so it is your fault either its from a reasonable thing or just purely being lazy. I was depressed and was gaining weight but regardless its my fault I was gaining weight. no one was tying me to a bed, no one was shoving food in my mouth but ME. Fault=/=reason.

[@alyssawagstaff8615]

I did make a comment, about my struggle with losing weight after my child, but I have never struggled with weight until now, after having my child. It’s extremely discouraging to put the work in for these last 2 years and only having seen I lost 10 pounds, my goal is I would like to lose 60 pounds, during my pregnancy I was in bed rest and gained much more weight than I intended, and after birth I did lose some weight but I had started new medications, and gained more weight back. I recently was told by my doctors I have a thyroid condition and started a medication to help, it can cause many issues aside from weight gain, I am hoping that it will help me with my weight though, I do not like this new body, it feels very foreign to me. I have never been overweight in my life. And it causes pain in my body, my knees and hips and back are in pain, and my doctors will tell me it is due to my complications from child birth but I also do think it is from so much weight gain in such a short time. I am working hard daily, and I have only lost 22 pounds so far, it has taken 2 years to lose 22 pounds.

[@superjbosc5343]

the thing is, most people who try to lose weight fail. this is true. maybe it's just the case that most people are lazy, but it's not super helpful to say it's an "excuse" when most people can't go through with it. that doesn't mean being obese isn't unhealthy, it is, it's really really bad for you.

[@Marte_H]

I feel like people throw the word "privileged" around too easily nowadays

[@natalievu4399]

Especially people who play victimhood olympics.

[@xerxestheimmortal1]

All these people are Americans, and it you are american, you are already highly privileged.

[@organsnatcher8395]

​@@xerxestheimmortal1I was literally about to comment this as bad as America gets were SUPER privileged.

[@Whueso]

And just for saying that, they'd say you're clearly privileged.

[@ndubb255]

@@xerxestheimmortal1preach! People act like privilege is a bad word, it’s not and it also doesn’t undermine the hard work people have done to earn what they have. But being able to acknowledge you have privilege is a sign of maturity imo.

[@masterboo5433]

I was slacking off with my workouts lately...then mom showed me a pic from a few years back....and boy did i feel so great that i got back into my routine....im immensely proud for not listening to peopel tell me im pretty the way i am and loosing weight... LOOKS MIGHT NOT MATTER TO YOU BUT IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC IT DOES....STOP GIVING YOURSELF EXCUSES GET UP AND LOOSE WEIGHT.

[@MeowLikesGuns]

The girl in the red dress is the only genuine person who isn't blind in delusion

[@Yrar]

And the Asian baddie

[@jeovanicontreras409]

She might be delusional cuz she doesn’t seem fit and if she has botox wouldn’t surprise me if she had some other surgeries done

[@Spovacts]

Facts she’s like everything tbh

[@Mocha_87]

Because she’s actually been both overweight and lower weight

[@jravenx]

Saying you cant cook because you have kids O.O so the kids eating gunk too

[@brandinshaeffer8970]

Those kids will grow up saying their weight is genetic, but really it's that mom is feeding them the poison she feeds herself.

[@empmmp2]

👏😭

[@HyperIndian]

Exactly. Not only a bad example but a terrible parent

[@WhitestManAlive303]

I've never seen a obese kid with skinny parents

[@Somnavira]

Yes usually. It’s sad

[@jamelynsteiger]

The lady in the red dress is so transparent and honest ❤ if only more people could be like that vs trying to find a loophole or excuse for their poor choices.

[@EVA-ki5vw]

Yea she was pain and pleasure at the same time lmao but I agree with her.

[@bluepoppies7387]

you're being too hard on people for their choices, becuase most of the time is not just their choices but a lot of external circumstances

[@sarahellendelli]

her comments on PCOS are completely WRONG.

[@Niclouyat]

I love her❤

[@laibao9322]

@@sarahellendelliwhy do you disagree? Just curious

[@nathimix]

No one talked about the mental health benefits of eating healthy

[@saharm226]

I feel like when asked the question "fit women are more attractive", most of them chickened out of agreeing. Saying personality is more important doesn't reject the notion that being fit is more attractive. It just means that being physically attractive isn't the most important thing.

[@asdfghj13579fly]

It's called dodging and coping. “Fit” is a physical characteristic. They immediately started talking about nonphysical characteristics. I highly respect Dahna for stepping forward with her honesty. Not sure if she knew she'd be the only one though.

[@MissBandito1]

I agree with you. Fit looks different for different people. If someone is 400+lbs and they are down to 240. That requires work and effort and contributes to attractiveness. Mindset, dedication, and health

[@ebunsmith1679]

I agree. You find someone attractive and want to get to know them, then their personality enhances your attraction to them. That baseline attraction is purely physical most of the time

[@Bobbyheebee]

Some of us are demisexual and genuinely aren’t physically attracted to anyone until we have an emotional connection with them. I’ve dated folks of all kinds of body types. My longest relationship was with someone who has been the biggest person I’ve dated (about 350lbs 6’2”, not fit). I will say my personal caveat is that I prefer to date people who can do physical activities with me, but that doesn’t mean they have to be skinny or fit to do so. I am a size 12 and got some cushion and I can kick skinnier peoples’ asses at a number of physical activities. If you tell me that you can’t go on a 40 mile bike ride up a mountain with me, when that’s one of my favorite things to do, then it’s not gonna work out.

[@angytingz]

My thoughts too

[@carmenli9499]

The woman in red is wonderful. so knowledgeable, direct, and compassionate

[@NorthernCatt]

There’s like 3 in red

[@CASSIOPATH]

​@@NorthernCatt the blonde girl

[@davidhadley8106]

​@@NorthernCatt yeah, but there's 1

[@ahmedsultan4366]

There are 3 in red

[@Marenyearlystan]

The lady in the red dress with blonde hair

[@ginger1830]

"Addiction is the disease that tells your brain that the problem is the solution" 👏👏👏 That's a huge one! and one that is relevant today more than ever for so many people. The escape that addiction offers us is ultimately the biggest source of misery. and mindfulness/meditation - learning the art of non-reaction - is a powerful tool to fix our addicted selves!

[@cidyrog]

90% agree but caveat from a professional standpoint- it depends a *little* bit on the person. For example, if an addicted person is also experiencing life circumstances that mean they're in a constant state of mental trauma or fight/flight, and have the freeze response, meditation can actually exacerbate the problem bc they're further removing themselves from their somatic processing. Again, it's very person specific, and there's not really a one size fits all solution to addiction, and meditation is incredibly helpful for many people experiencing it- it's just rarely the only solution and if theyre in a clinical setting, a lot of different factors need to be evaluated before recommending it(or any other treatment/coping skill)

[@ginger1830]

@@cidyrog thank you for the thoughtful response 🙏

[@blancacasanovas8776]

I don’t think I fully understand the phrase… could you explain it for me? I’m genuinely asking

[@kiki_2cute]

obese isnt a bad word. i feel like some people are afraid to say that some people are obese. its a medical term which describes a persons weight!!

[@Nadines_Devotions]

Walk 10k steps around the streets for free and do intermittent fasting for free. When you buy fast food just control your portions!!! Buy a burger and a liter of water. Balance ppl balance.

[@TheColerain11]

That's what they don't understand! You can literally lose weight eating only McDonalds IF YOU CONTROL YOUR PORTIONS. Of course a McDonalds diet isn't ideal, but its possible. Portion control is literally the one thing everyone can do whether they have money or not.

[@dontgetsore]

Yes, walking is probably the best things anyone can do for their overall health.

[@EverydayJOEFitness]

​@@TheColerain11 That's the education piece that's lacking, and i can't blame them for that. I wish it were mandatory in high school to learn about thermodynamics in the body and at least learn nutritional basics so people can make wise decisions as adults.

[@The_Human_Blueprint]

100%

[@ARpirateant]

Burgers are not that bad by themselves if you think about it and are not eating them every day but just skip the soda and fries that’s what makes the meal into the thousands of calories

[@alexbr550]

"I've been medically obese since I was 12, and I was not obese." So you think you know more than medical experts... maybe that's part of the problem on why you're obese.

[@trenko_heart5358]

Or maybe we live in a flawed medical system that reproduces fatphobia, just a thought

[@clovninie]

exactly. You cannot just say that you were "not obese" because you thought so and did not agreed with what the doctor said.

[@kphilz12]

I’m sure this statement that was made during the video was solely based off what the BMI chart says. Which is something that medical professionals use to establish whether you were healthy or overweight or obese. If you look at the BMI chart, and you look at professional athletes majority of them would probably fall in the obese category just based off height and weight, which is the BMI chart off of

[@imusedtoit]

To be fair, there is a HUGE problem with BMI. The classification of obese from a BMI of thirty was done studying white men only. Whether or not someone is so overweight that it negatively impacts their health depends on a variety of factors, not just a number on a chart because that number can mean different things for different ages, sexes, races etc. So no I don't think it's weird to criticize the chart in your doctor's office constructed from incomplete research. Plus, BMI only accounts for weight and doesn't include other factors that influence your health

[@hail8163]

@@imusedtoit literally… She didn’t have many valid points, but this was one of them

[@josipa1226]

It's so sad how most of the women feel offended when a doctor/proffesional/close friend tells them they are obese. It's not an offensive slur, it's a medical term, and when a proffesional tells you that, it means you are by all health standards overweight and it is endangering your life in some way. They are being paid to help people, and I believe most of them got into that proffesion because of that, it's just so dissapointing to see how hard it is for some people to just accept criticism that is meant to elongate their life.

[@aviadormercuriano1964]

not even elongate life , i was obese three years ago , existing was painful , couldnt breath, couldnt walk , i was always uncomfortable, sweaty , stomach pains ,lung pains ,plus feelings disgusted by my body , losing weight made life worth living

[@vivianacordero135]

But BMI is not really a medical term, it is a mathematical one. Nobody ever questions where this term comes from and how it came to be.

[@crazguykwan8955]

@@vivianacordero135 How about we have a look away from numbers and at real bodies then? Can you realistically say that someone who is taking up 1.5-2 seats, breathing hard, can barely fit clothing, and generally is nowhere near fit, is healthy? Once again disregarding BMI. Using your eyes and brain here.

[@wagwan6935]

I totally understand but I also can see this from their perspective. “Retard” was also a medical term and for years people who were *Not* doctors used that word to put down disabled people. I would say that the word obese is also used in the same way by people who are *Not* doctors. And when not used by doctors it is almost always used as a derogatory term. I wouldn’t want to be called obese by my doctor or anyone if I was bullied all throughout school with that same word.

[@kiaratheexplorer4]

Literally because of everyone in these comments, MAKING it into a bad thing. 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@pferdenerd]

I love how sensitive and empathatic they all were, some moments me really cry, exactly what I needed, thank you.

[@markmendoza5204]

Saying you don’t have time is the worst excuse especially if you have any form of social media

[@Gervardo]

I agree. But they might also need that in their lives, time and ways to decompress of the stresses of life. But yes in the end it comes down to prioritising physical health/fitness

[@lifevest1]

@@Gervardo Gym is decompressing. You don't need to use your mind, you just lift weights. At most you have to count and adjust form.

[@pribhi98_]

@@lifevest1it’s not just that though. Social media connects you with friends and family, it’s a way of communication. The issue is America’s work and hustle culture (which we’re forced to do) as well as the American diet and not prioritizing health and wellness.

[@Gervardo]

@@lifevest1 for you it might be, some people really dislike the gym

[@imaybeanidiotbut9338]

Social media has been proven to be a net negative for society.

[@amy9091]

Being obese isn’t a choice, it’s the result of hundreds and thousands of choices.

[@lildel7698]

Meanwhile I can’t afford to eat

[@KingBeef216]

Nailed it.

[@HulaMask]

Success is a lot of small things done well and so is failure. I agree with what you had to say.

[@aquariuswaive]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rjmurphyo0]

being skinny is not my choice, have you seen my pay check and inside my refregerator? lol I have 2 oatmeal packs and some stale cherrios that I need to throw out. Maybe these ladies aren't poor enough.

[@AmadeusTheGrey]

I'm a single dad, working full time and go to school currently and I still prepare every single meal my child and I eat. It's about discipline and doing what you're supposed to do whether you feel like it or not. everyone has the ability to be disciplined but very very few choose to.

[@couples_cleanse]

👏🏽👏🏽 facts

[@MKSpeakz]

Respect 💯

[@midnight.amethyst]

Couldn't agree more❤

[@marenomorgan]

I think people also feel entitled to eat like insanely delicious food because their palate has been so distorted by fast, convenient food, so they don't want to eat simple dishes. Like I cook every meal I eat and often it's pretty boring (still tasty, but not crafted by food scientists to be hyper-palatable) but that also means it doesn't take that much time to cook.

[@AmadeusTheGrey]

@@marenomorgan this is very true. That's why my son and I only eat real food. Meat fruit and veggies. So I don't have to worry about him or myself becoming addicted to that chemical filled food like product that's not even real food

[@Itsfilthyy]

"I was medically obese when i was 12 and i wasnt obese" does she hear herself?🤣

[@SpyKids2GOAT]

Red lady saved this episode. She made up for a general lack of logic and reasoning in that room.

[@psychobillynumbnuts1]

The men episode was better cuz they didn't walk on eggshells

[@icybuuchannel]

I like the lady in red too

[@Aubrey2004-j4k]

​@@psychobillynumbnuts1 facts

[@hoopadooppoopnloop1267]

She is a fit imposter lol

[@jfcdisguy]

First time she opened her mouth was to cut someone off and be rude. But with KZbin being generally all about FACTS and LOGIC, I'm not surprised literally everyone is all over her, lmao

[@Bardo429]

Asking to define the term obese while your gut is hanging out is diabolical

[@Miriamb05]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@chadj2320]

Yooo 😂😂😂

[@chadj2320]

Yooo😂😂😂

[@DiscountDivorcePhotography]

The cope is unreal! Listen to how they explain that being thinner isn't more attractive! This is wild lol

[@andrikaroberson5609]

bruh

[@473mishke]

Notice the main difference between the two groups: can-do attitude versus a defeatist attitude. It's all about attitude.

[@millienexu5684]

As someone who is fit - it's a lot easier for some people to have a can-do attitude than others based on their situation and their lives, and also their mental condition. Sure it's physically possible for many people to do it, but not acknowledging the incredible barriers that some people have in front of them and simplifying to "everyone can do it" is disingenuous.

[@thatbeaatcch9884]

@@millienexu5684lol as someone who has been homeless and managed not to be obese just by simple WALKING AROUND , WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ? Please stop making excuses, you’re embarrassing yourself

[@brebre8313]

So what's your attitude as to why you not making more money? 😂 And you work for someone

[@473mishke]

@@millienexu5684 For sure. I acknowledge that's it's harder for some people.

[@michaltran3369]

@@brebre8313 making money is more complex, it involves other people and opportunities. Meanwhile getting fit is mostly just you fighting yourself. I know that even weight loss can be hard, especially when you want to have a social life. My point is getting fit is more achievable than becoming a millionaire.

[@Salem__August]

My depression let to most of my weight gain. I could barely leave my room, let alone make myself food, and exercise. It took me so long (2 years) to motivate myself to work out, eat better and not bed rot.

[@kagxs935]

the plus size woman in the pink shirt is so precious bless her, so sweet 🥺💜

[@WindBlowsAround]

I liked her too!

[@Haya-i6y]

Ik I hated how they cut her off in the first round!!

[@ItsMikky]

I think our minds are our BIGGEST prisons. The second you tell yourself you can’t do this because x,y,z…then you’ve already stopped yourself from achieving it. As someone with has had severe depression her whole life. A mom and wife. Me cutting out processed foods and taking more time into what I put in, has been THE biggest game changer for me. I don’t even count calories or go to the gym 5 days a week. I just do mindful eating, portion control, drink only water, wine, and coffee (home made not a bunch of sugar Starbucks drinks anymore). Resetting my gut health, has literally saved my life. And I am certainly not thin and miserablE. I feel and AM stronger than I’ve ever been.

[@oceanmoreno2456]

The victim mindset is the worst mindset

[@chalametluvr23]

How does one start resetting their gut? Diet? Kudos to you. I want to try and just start feeling better

[@robdiregs7962]

that processed crap really does damage our bodies. Congrats on cutting it out and feeling much better.

[@hi-kb3hb]

Obesity doesn't mean you are a bad person, but the first step to change something is to acknowledge it, not deny it.

[@avaphynx]

I believe it's the medical field.

[@Halario02]

Best comment I've seen so far :)

[@jones2277]

i think it does. it means you're lazy and weak.

[@Marie-fl5yr]

A few takeaways. The problem isn’t the affordability of healthy food, it’s that so many Americans just don’t know how to cook unprocessed foods. And second, if anyone knows someone like Lupe, you know she will probably outlive and could out work/lift them all.

[@theophany4935]

"I don’t have time" "Healthy food is too expensive" "My mental health is too bad" "Your life allows you to be fit, mine doesn’t" This is the product of a fixed mindset. Nothing but excuses on the obese side.

[@jmoney9790]

Exactly, if you don't have time, wake up an hour earlier to fit in a workout. If you sleep for 6 hours a night, make it 5 hours.

[@potat7309]

As a person who's lost weight while having no job, got obese while having no job , lost weight while having a job, and gained it again while having a job And 2 kids now I can agree I've used all the excuses in the book

[@rogerteaminski6351]

Victim mentality.

[@h3rdr3duc3r]

They have the ultimate loser mindset. They have accepted defeat.

[@miralan2215]

I agree, if they have time to follow those influencers on Tiktok and watched their videoes, they have time to work out.

[@Honeyworkit]

I know I might get boo’d…but fit is more attractive. Screw men, PEOPLE (including other women) treat you way better. It may not be fair, it sucks…but it’s true. Clothing fits better. You can participate in more social activities. Overall you’re just more attractive in society.

[@heatherwillis5505]

People don't like the truth, but it's still the truth

[@yusruuh3762]

This is so true, it was sad to see that even their argument didn’t prove it because at the end of the day fit will always be more attractive 🫤

[@KarlaEmmerson]

Your looks are a currency. We can be woke all day long and individuals might treat you a special way as a means of their own wokeness token, but in general your life will be better if you look better 🤷‍♀️

[@vanian420]

Beauty is subjective. There are no definitive truths when it comes to judging attractiveness.

[@TheAvgWoman]

They way you see and treat yourself, society often reflects back. Those girls love themselves and take care of themselves, and the universe responds in kind.

[@astromantix]

WTF are people on when they start saying it's expensive to eat healthy???? healthy doesn't have to be fresh organic vegetables; you can have a heaping bowlful of pasta with olive oil and tomato sauce and it's still gonna be wildly cheaper and healthier than washing down tubs of fried chicken and cheeseburgers with coke. it's called basic math and common sense.

[@HereWeGoCrypto]

I eat the carnivore diet and my spending for food for myself sometimes can be as low as 8$ for the day just eating 2 pounds of ground beef

[@forgottenmorethanyoulleverknow]

​@@HereWeGoCryptocarnivore diet is not healthy......

[@EmberRaye87]

Honestly though, my husband and I decided to get healthy and lose weight and stopped buying a bunch of junk and started meal planning healthy meals. We are a family of 5 and we actually pay less in groceries per week now than we ever have. And healthy meals ideas and options are so much easier to find now.

[@darienmonomer]

nah, it's expensive to eat lazy. People got it confused.

[@valenciaalacoque3344]

Yh, im trying to lose weight by counting calorie and sugar than following "healthy lifestyle" in social media, because social media often picturing eat healthy with eating expensive organic things or whatsoever. Also im South East Asian, aint no way im following Westerner lifestyle. I still need rice for at least once in a day😂 And honestly as you said, its far cheaper. I can buy veggie and egg for few days while fastfood is more expensive.

[@MisaRific]

Weight is very difficult and has so many factors like economy, genetics and habits. BUT choice is still a stronger factor.

[@stephenh694]

"Would you consider me obese" coming from a person who is morbidly obese is such a bizarre phenomena. It's also so very clear she is not an active person.

[@stephenh694]

@lc-do5eo well by definition active means to pursue physically energetic pursuits, I don't want to make inferences to her state, but hopefully you get the picture! Certain words are thrown around in this video as though they don't have a specific meaning, active is just one of them haha

[@LetHimRead]

@lc-do5eo why would one say water is wet? Come on don't be so open minded your brain falls out

[@harinu9339]

She said she can run though, lol.

[@PaetynPeebles-tg5cb]

I agree with you, but she isn't morbidly obese. She's just obese. MORBIDLY obese is literally one step away from dying, hence the use of the word MORBID. You have to be 400+ pounds to be morbidly obese. She's probably 250-300, which is still inexcusable.

[@Buzzbuzz-c7z]

She is an active person. She goes on hikes and walks.

[@planetno.97]

I am obese, but I’ve started hitting the gym since last week. Wish me luck 🙏🏻

[@danirisalmonte3042]

You got this!!!

[@k.5425]

Luck🎉

[@hiwalkalone1801]

I commend you for even seeing that this lifestyle is unhealthy and you can and will do something about it rather than trying to cope. By the way, if you’re heavy heavy walking and consuming less food will lead to greater weight loss than lifting weights.

[@aviadormercuriano1964]

you go this , take it slow , remember it took time to get to that point, and it will also take some time to get to your ideal weight/body

[@brittneymusic]

You got this. Find what works for you, keep consistent, rest days are okay, drink water!

[@stevenking997]

I just went from 325 to 210, 90% of the stuff coming out of the obese side are excuses.

[@lyric2576]

Proud of you

[@Melodyy33919]

I'm so proud of you too!! I would absolutely love some tips plz? I'm trying to lose 30lbs and it's pretty difficult 😕

[@lilibe-ff4dh]

Proud of you.

[@sophiethelk9557]

Amazing! Congratulations :)

[@tyronedavis1300]

@@Melodyy33919put the fork down and walk more. You will reap the most rewards through restricting calories from food rather than relying on exercise to burn calories. Make easy swaps like sodas to calorie free, food groups to low sugar etc

[@nir.zuerich]

"But your life allows it" "No, i make my life allow it" Thats just straight facts !

[@rosanorman8475]

The girl being in denial that she’s obese…

[@EverydayJOEFitness]

That part was kinda sad

[@MalesAreDemons]

She’s delusional

[@LOhateVE]

She's not Obese, She's Morbidly Obese.

[@Xellarina]

She’s clearly out-eating her activeness.

[@deez4618]

Ikr lol

[@marissathomas5483]

absolutely love Leia. you can tell she truly cares about this topic and people seeing their worth while not putting down anyone.

[@mimiwimi2683]

and her hairstyle is sooo cute!!!

[@brookeh21]

She isn't fit though so I don't know why she's on that side

[@JupiterYuno]

@@brookeh21 ”Fit” doesn’t neccessarily mean skinny. If you take a look on the olympics pretty much everyone is fit but in their own way for their sport

[@brookeh21]

@@JupiterYuno fit doesn't mean you have a belly poking out under your dress either.

[@poofeh]

@@brookeh21 even the fittest of women have their bellies poking out. some part of it is literally our uterus and you cant do anything about it. i think having a flat stomach is very unrealistic for majority of people

[@siren4771]

after watching this video I realize that If you really wanna get fit there isn't anything holding you back but yourself and your excuses.

[@annepoelman6195]

Real

[@lizzog4553]

True, this really did show the difference in the mentalities. Not everyone there but at least two of them had nothing but excuses and reasons it’s so extra difficult for them. The fit people had a completely different mentality. People hold themselves back

[@debrona43]

true and at the end of the day, no one really cares or can save anyone else. youve got to do what gives you the best quality of life. pain and suffering does not discriminate and you can't talk it away with progressive ideology

[@edturner3615]

FACTS!

[@amunuaatta6446]

Well said

[@J.H.T.S]

Everything in your control is your fault. Everything out of your control isn't your fault, though the way you react to it is. For example, driving on a highway is your fault and its your choice. But, getting stuck in traffic is not your fault, just the way you react to it.

[@Aaronyeip]

The real problem is not being able to admit there is a problem.

[@enicot]

"Fit people are more attractive" Only the asian girl is connected to reality here

[@yoshiette]

Attractiveness is subjective. What some people like may or may not be the same as you. Different beauty standards for different people, that's what you should understand.

[@enicot]

@@yoshiette Subjective, sure. Cultural, definitely. Statistical, also. Beauty being subjective doesn't negate that there are high percentage concensuses about it.

[@HMJKS2000]

@@yoshiettewhile subjective from person to person there is still some collaborative understanding of general attractiveness. e.g. some people love assholes but most people like nice people. e.g. some men like huge woman (not curvy but HUGE WOMAN) but a majority of people agree there is a certain range of weight where women that can be attractive but once it hits a certain level it will be perceived as less attractive. e.g. most people will agree that unibrows aren’t attractive but there are those who like it. To think there aren’t general attribute that most people find attractive is crazy. Frankly most people like people who aren’t super overweight let alone obese.

[@CocoHunter-f5t]

@@yoshiette i promise you nobody finds a 500 lb guy/gal more attractive than a normal weight person no matter how subjective attraction is

[@canwejustnot]

This exactly. Yes, there are beautiful women in every shape, that's very much possible, but overall, base physical attraction is based on a perceived image of health and prosperity. If sb LOOKS unhealthy, they'll look generally be less attractive physically to the majority of people

[@svnuss]

Obese and medical obese is the same thing, stop coping

[@kettei5408]

I think they are confused the colloquial use of obese with the literal definition and that is the issue

[@FloatingInSpace5702]

The BMI is an antiquated tool, which doesn’t take into account muscle volume etc… many professional athletes are “medically obese” but not by society standards. I think that woman just didn’t know what she was talking about and is maybe not ready to accept that term

[@lachlanross1]

@@FloatingInSpace5702 yeah but none of the women in the video that were obese had high enough muscle mass for that to be a factor

[@FloatingInSpace5702]

@@lachlanross1 it’s still an antiquated tool. The guy who made the BMI literally said in his study that he created it for to not use it as a source for comparing health. The only reason why it’s used is because health insurance companies needed a guideline to go off of so they chose that. Are the girls in the video obese, yes - but I 1000% believe we need a new way to define obesity that takes in more than height and weight.

[@OwGash]

@@FloatingInSpace5702 This is such a cope argument. Most people won't have enough muscle to actually raise their weight enough to obesity levels. It takes years and years of dedicated working out to actually raise your ''muscle weight'' by 15 or so kg yet we have these couch potatoes who can barely even lift their own behind claiming they are heavy because of muscle. So no most athletes actually won't be ''medical obese'' because athletes actually have low bodyfat percentage which usually puts them at average weight

[@EiriniKaranika]

I find it so awesome that ppl come in prepared with judgements and the longer I listen the more healing is here. ❤❤❤

[@ShootingTheDirt]

Everyone was trying to be too nice. No one challenged anyone.

[@HMJKS2000]

True, woman tend to have a harder time being confrontational but there are also a lot of footage that gets cut.

[@karolinapanekova761]

That is how it should be, it is called human decency.

[@ShootingTheDirt]

@@karolinapanekova761 yes of course. We should all treat each other with kindness and respect . But they were there to debate and challenge each other which can still be done in a cordial manner.

[@karolinapanekova761]

@@ShootingTheDirt debating is not about challenging. i don’t know who told you that. debating is respectfully and even kindly sharing your opinions. it’s called effective communication. challenging is not part of it, it would just emotionally drag the other side down and the conversation would become un-effective becouse of the persons hurt feelings.

[@ShootingTheDirt]

@@karolinapanekova761 I understand where your coming from. But when your debating you are challenging the other persons ideas. And trying to make them see your side is the correct one. Or maybe you might find a middle ground.

[@krazykuro.8774]

All these women saying “you’d look at me and think I’m a lil overweight but I’m obese clinically” need to realise everyone looking at you is thinking you are obese

[@DontLoseYourVoice]

Seriously. They are delusional. People take one look and don’t look back. They are the invisible women we pass on the sidewalks.

[@XhumpersX]

Thats where the body positivity comes in.

[@stephengrzybowski4374]

😂 yeah we have eyes

[@kahelbysahi]

10:18 "I have friends who are skinnier than me, we go on walks and they're losing their breaths" GIRL just because they do not have the stamina does not mean that a person is obese 😭😭😭 there are lots of reasons why a person could be out of breath when walking maybe that person is anemic, does not have enough sleep, respiratory condition, etc. Also, BMI parameters are based on your height and weight and it is to determine whether your weight is in healthy proportion with your height. It is just based on your anthropometric measurements and not your capabilities when you are in that weight.

[@mrknarf4438]

Yeah. And not being fit and not having muscle also leads to a lot of problems later in life, so that also is bad, but a different problem! You lose weight by eating less, you build muscle by exercising, too many people think those two are one and the same...

[@jackyflores245]

i’m literally 115 lbs and get out of breath on hikes 😭 idk why she used that as an example when everyone has different conditions when it comes to being active

[@katlegonhlapo4040]

Lol she's tryna get everybody to be obese and just not her

[@schantallmiss2113]

To me it kind of sounds like she equates the term "obese" with "fit", which would explain her definition of obese. Because you can be not obese and also not be fit and vice versa. Obese is a word to describe the ratio of your height and your weight, but has also been used as a slur so i think that might be why some of the women calles it "medically obese" to put the emphasis on the ratio and away from the slur.

[@bobross7473]

But the point still stands that an obese person isn’t necessarily unhealthier than a skinny person

[@DominicBoyce-x6z]

These women are trying to dance around each others feelings instead of just stating the facts. Making this debate hard to watch.

[@LiberianHokage]

It’s interesting how the definition of Obese is being shifted in recent years.

[@rickson50]

Science is regardless. All that matters is if it hurts women's feelings

[@matts5164]

Only for women though, definition for obese for men has stayed the same

[@r.b7979]

​@@matts5164 doctors arent going to change a definition for one gender lets be fr. What doctors and scientists find out is consistently changing.

[@alijane6675]

Keep crying, boys. This isn’t about you.

[@Chowmeinn]

True, but it needed to shift due to it being based on BMI. So basically a huge jacked guy would be considered obese. I think eye test is much more suitable you can just look at someone and tell they are obese

[@JLad11053]

At Costco : $15 - 3 Rotisserie chicken $10 - 5lb Bag of mixed veggies Less than $1 - Pot of rice $5 - 3 lbs of Sweet potatoes You can have 3 healthy meals every day for the whole week for about $30

[@JohnyZman]

Amen. It’s not hard. Their problem is they don’t want to eat it.

[@_Ang3licGh0ulz_]

She was speaking about only having 12 dollars. Yes that's cheap but I may not have enough money to pay for a 30 dollar meal while tryna pay my rent and other bills.

[@penelopephelange]

Rotisserie chicken's are only healthy if you take the skin off. Have you seen the calories on those labels? lol

[@doyouunderstandthis]

@@_Ang3licGh0ulz_it’s not a 30 dollar meal. It’s food for the rest of the week.

[@doyouunderstandthis]

@@penelopephelangecalories don’t equate to health. A food can be highly nutrient dense while also having a lot of calories.

[@dylanko3626]

Saw the title and instantly pressed play 😂

[@kamilbedeschi4482]

Mee too😅😅

[@NuhaHabila]

Same 😂

[@tippo-ui2ny]

same, its just too funny

[@teganmatteo8566]

IMMEDIATELY

[@pbjgurl]

Someone sent me this because they knew I’d like it lol

[@blancaweaver7528]

this video is now my safe place. i love how everyone communicated with each other and understood everyone's points of view.