Do Women Really Have it Harder? Male Feminists vs Antifeminists | Middle Ground

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[VIDEO TIMECODES]
0:00 intro
0:23 do women have it easier?
5:21 there's no wrong reason to have an abortion
10:03 mansplaining is overly criticized
14:08 women should make their own money
19:56 period pain is over-exaggerated
20:14 innocent men suffer because of feminism
28:45 women are fit to be president
33:27 the gender pay gap is real
38:36 I haven't always understood consent
42:38 male feminists are in it to get laid
47:46 I like living in the patriarchy
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[@kingofpenguins4157]

The fact that no one stepped forward for the “women are exaggerating period pains” made me feel slightly better

[@stephaniejohnson5361]

why would they. most of the anti feminist there wanted equality. Not demonizing woman.

[@Changed.User100]

@@stephaniejohnson5361 some women love to believe that just a small bruise to their egos mean that it is misogynistic although, I would have liked a "men exaggerated getting kicked in the balls" for the female fem vs female anti fem ngl

[@noneya1238]

​@@Changed.User100Kinda how men feel like equality for both sexes is oppressive to men.

[@noneya1238]

​@@stephaniejohnson5361They didn't even want women to run for president and said horrible things.

[@dearpercocet.]

@@stephaniejohnson5361the definition of feminisim is literally fighting for equality for everyone

[@deannaclayton883]

I died when Tucker said "If I hear one more person use religion as a reason to not give rights to people, I think I'm going to explode"

[@Johan-di6md]

I can relate to his frustration sooo much.

[@cjbranchett9733]

I can honestly relate to that quote a lot to be honest. Not everyone has faith or is religious

[@the_alexicon]

How do people use religion as a reason not to give rights? Ive encountered more to the contrary tbh

[@leareed3749]

@@the_alexicon Iran, Israel, Palestine, The United States, as well as the Western world which was built on the principles of the Catholic Church and Abrahamic religions.... using it to pass laws, etc.... there is SO much evidence of this.. you just gotta look a little harder lol.

[@dayanaarias1035]

Crazy convenient how they always forget that little part in the constitution

[@lunrecllipse]

"When girls are crying or upset, they call them princesses and give them the world" BRUH we're called dramatic and hysterical like gtfo.

[@danielvitorino5186]

Your parents are not very nice

[@jamesmortimer6007]

The key word is girls, as in female children. You're expected to grow out of crying about not getting the birthday present you wanted *before* adulthood.

[@Addison-RN]

LMFAO LOLOLOL for real

[@richardcastro8108]

Lmfao, so wrong, y'all get treated like princesses

[@itssovia8817]

​@@danielvitorino5186 i think what they meant with "girls" is adult women in general not "daughters"

[@AlyssaNunez-kh6wc]

And it’s crazy how guys will say “use protection” but always try to convince woman to let them not use it.

[@christiandoupe9495]

The problem is everyone is generalizing like the one guy said not everyone does the things any of them are saying i have personally not once begged to take the condom off in fact i have been mocked for using them by a few women. Everyone is different.

[@Noobatron-cu2bm]

Correct especially when it comes to pressure from them. And how “protection” isn’t always a guarantee.

[@aakashv19]

@@AlyssaNunez-kh6wc you have experienced that with a lot of men i guess💀

[@AlyssaNunez-kh6wc]

@@aakashv19 mad that you can’t?

[@nicpinkygirl]

Watching this as a woman is wild.

[@turquoisestranger7566]

I’m refusing to watch because it’ll only trigger me honestly. The comments are already mentioning the guy who claims women only want abortions because of unprotected sex. As someone whose been sexually assaulted by a past partner it would just be triggering.

[@limediamond4595]

@@turquoisestranger7566 I’m so sorry that happened to you, I hope you’re doing ok now 🫂

[@dismissedrealist6059]

​@@turquoisestranger7566Women will literally fabricate whole stories of one of the worse traumatic events that an individual can suffer just too feel empowered, and gain sympathy from others. I also hate to break it to you, but most abortions are absolutely because women want zero responsibility or the reprecussions that hookup culture and promiscuous behavior brings.

[@devin5297]

Respect 🙏 this was a hard watch

[@kzvnq]

@@turquoisestranger7566 i think he meant some woman who do have abortions for that reason no offense.

[@thijmengilsing5781]

I feel like Donovan has never actually talked to a woman in his life.

[@malcolmlittle6870]

which one is donovan i forgot🤔

[@thijmengilsing5781]

@@malcolmlittle6870 the antifeminist with the glasses

[@malcolmlittle6870]

@@thijmengilsing5781 ohhhhh ok thanks

[@tonyonaperky2128]

So if someone has an opposing point that means that they never spoken to a woman? Did it ever occur to you that maybe he's had bad experience with women who spew nothing but nonsense causing him to beleive what he believes? Or do you just beleive that any woman who claims to be a feminists and opens her mouth is correct?

[@tonyonaperky2128]

​@@thijmengilsing5781Has it ever occurred that maybe he was surrounded by women who just spewed nonsense? That is a big possibility

[@Jasmineeunknown]

Notice how almost all the feminists have gfs that they talk about and the other side doesn’t

[@shar4803]

Yeah crazy concept that women want men that are educated on womens issues! Some men don't seem to get that and equate men that are feminsts and in a relationship with "oh they're doing it to get laid/a girlfriend"

[@xartonz]

Also notice their weight differences , cleary being a feminist you dont have time to take care of your health

[@ladymonja]

Wtf? ​@@xartonz

[@xartonz]

@@ladymonja Ikr

[@DATAEXPUNGED.]

@@xartonzIt can go either way. They don’t have time to take care of their health OR they are comfortable with their relationship to where they aren’t concerned about their weight. Then again these are people we don’t know personally so I won’t make assumptions.

[@sofiarayushkins6557]

Fun fact: Pregnancy/after birth, most women suffer from depression and self-hate. Motherhood is scary, and even life threatening.

[@jazmineszlari414]

Also the skeletal structure of the hip changes too and its irreversible no matter what exercises they try out

[@Interdacted]

having kids sound scary

[@f15hed]

theres also a possibility for psychosis which many men for some reason say isnt real which has lead to some cases of women hurting themselves or others due to being denied any help and being told theyre faking it just because theyre women and women = dramatic attention seekers! love the medical field for being pretty heavily misogynistic!

[@kekejo1527]

I would also like to add that some people don’t take into consideration the person carrying the child, what they might be going through, how hard it is, the pain their in, especially if their very young. We just blame them for not being “safe” when we don’t know the full story, even if they were, condoms and birth control don’t always prohibit pregnancy, or stds for that matter.

[@Mr.WalterH.WhiteSr.]

And if you wanna get a little crazy you can suffer from post partum psychosis🤪 no but seriously it’s so sad because a lot of the time actual can be too expensive

[@mitchboland9591]

Now I really want to see male feminists and female anti-feminists

[@mrnorbotron3308]

*FAP

[@NadaCero]

Vice just did that

[@thehoneyeffect]

That sounds horrific

[@rileymatthews9161]

I'd want to be in that lol

[@SL-vw7ix]

So r/niceguys vs pick me’s?

[@desireeperham7093]

False accusation rate for rape is around 3-7%. Rate of NOT REPORTING RAPE AT ALL is 89%

[@randomguy8800]

genuinely curious how do they measure it if it's not reported at all 💀

[@lethepancake]

@@randomguy8800 Looked it up. They do surveys. I'm assuming that unreported means not reported to police. I could see the confusion due to OP's use of "at all"

[@RollingCalf]

How does anyone even determine that considering how broadly rape is defined now

[@juanmonasterio1334]

​@@randomguy8800when there's no any statistics, you can say whatever you want 😂

[@flowered.buggie]

Source?

[@novasmit1701]

The thing I loved the most was that whenever Kevin spoke, everyone in the room was in complete silence

[@monalisakindamelisa.4559]

ikr

[@teaforanxiety]

Kevin has found it

[@artluvs]

I love him he has an insane aura

[@Anna-sl6tp]

he dosen't stutter, has correct and clear points, and just massive aura 💪🏾

[@feavymarcelino9223]

KEVIN FOR PRESIDENT

[@yesmaybe5868]

Where did they even find Donovan, I feel like he’s never even seen a woman in his entire life

[@jazmineszlari414]

He is literally a one of a kind mudpile

[@Bee-hg9qp]

“If a woman feels intimidated that’s on her” “feminism makes men feel upset every day!”

[@marlenestrege4870]

Seriously! I was hoping someone would say that to him!

[@tonyonaperky2128]

That's because a lot of feminists use it to absolutely berate men, and it makes then feels useless and emotionally abused everyday

[@tonyonaperky2128]

@marlenestrege4870 Because feminist Claims to make people equal despite never doing that. They constantly generalize all men to being misogynistic monsters despite a lot of them only talking about experience with shitty women

[@kpopalldaykdramaallnight1605]

But a woman getting an abortion ISN'T on her? Bffr

[@maVie.Ma_Vie]

Help JAJWUS,SO REAL LIKE BY HIS LOGIC IT BE ON MEN 💀

[@user-mx1us1pj1l]

“Patriarchal society is the way society runs best” The Earth is literally DYING 💀💀💀

[@Jordan-tg4uj]

THISS like there are BIGGER PROBLEMS 😭😭😭

[@DonEduardo69]

World was better years ago according to you then when men literally traded daughters to maintain peace among their kingdoms.

[@Astrourney]

LMAOO IKR

[@HighlightsCity-us6nw]

its better than matriarchal for sure

[@Sirpopeington]

Dude our society is on its death spiral and you think the degradation of the concept of a patriarchal society isn’t the culprit?

[@natalie-dy1tq]

the guy that said women have pretty privilege is exactly one of the reasons why we have feminists. Hes basically saying that women can get a job because they are pretty and men cant, but the thing is that women shouldnt have to feel like they need to be pretty in order to get a job. like men shouldnt be looking at women and saying ill give u this because you are pretty. men can get jobs because they are tough and all that. and like the whole point of being a feminist is to be equal to men not to be better than men.

[@assitouf]

Admit that Western women are privileged...

[@cheopstiqs]

@@assitoufthose three letters in the start of your name describes you so well

[@assitouf]

@@cheopstiqs Pathetic, you have 0 argument.

[@Theflowingcurrent]

@@cheopstiqsThey are privileged as a group compared to white men, in the justice system and in society.

[@ilpulcinopio-jw4co]

@@assitoufdid you actually read the comment you’re replying to or what

[@meereeanalee]

Donovan got rejected in middle school and never got over it.

[@austino.674]

Having a female moderator was a solid move.

[@BernieSanders-bn5dk]

@@tristanne9262 Lol It made sense if you feel some type of way it proves your bias against debate

[@friday13michael]

Gender matters.

[@BernieSanders-bn5dk]

@@tristanne9262 🤔 I wonder what you think you did, I wasn’t mad simply stating their obvious signs of a bias.

[@virgodem]

@@tristanne9262If you think she was neutral, just say it. Stop being such a prick about it.

[@calvarez94]

the question they asked was do innocent men suffer from feminism and the moderator had to say its not about feeling when it actually is plus this is an edit of a 4 hour convo i would like to see the unedited version

[@castellongort]

Donovan is SO EXHAUSTING. I respect his bravery to come on the show without knowing absolutely nothing about anything

[@rohanshende4338]

I bet you are a feminist. The bias in your comment speaks.

[@nthing2write254]

Yeah.. but I don't know if I respect that part either, bravery or...um stupidity??

[@weeeek1933]

Low iq spotted

[@kiararoland2630]

IM WHEEZING

[@rebeccajackson4984]

He's truly clueless.

[@tylinious]

"I cant think of any other reason than to get laid..." wow imagine not being able to wrap your head around empathy.

[@milkycloud.]

KEVIN IS SO WELL-SPOKEN AND CALM.

[@basharmubarak116]

Watching this makes me realise how important emotional intelligence is.

[@theyou-2-bepodcast190]

Gonna out on a limb and claim emotional intelligence isn't real and is just a buzzword, on account of the fact that no one seems to be able to define it.

[@basharmubarak116]

@@theyou-2-bepodcast190 that makes no sense. A simple Google search is going to solve that problem of ignorance.

[@InjaNoKenja]

​@theyou-2-bepodcast190 I believe it's the ability to show empathy and sympathy towards others. To reserve judgments for when we truly understand someone's situation. If you think what I'm describing is the minimum, congrats you have high emotional intelligence. I'd also argue that it's the ability to be in tune with your own emotions and express them when necessary.

[@cyberbrain6440]

YESSS and sadly that the majority lacks it

[@ashlee6254]

@@theyou-2-bepodcast190 you ever tried googling it?

[@omerdanenberg]

watching this as a woman is an out of body experience tbh

[@floydclark6710]

Oh, poor baby. LOL You are so oppressed.

[@like_grrra]

@@floydclark6710the football icon tells us all we need to know. thank you for your opinion.

[@floydclark6710]

@@like_grrra Yeah. Nobody who is a fan of football could possibly be correct about anything. Well played, ma'am.

[@like_grrra]

@@floydclark6710 you didn’t really say anything worth discussing, you just mocked a random woman lmaooo

[@floydclark6710]

@@like_grrra I certainly did mock a random woman. However, I would argue that it is worth discussing why so many women are professional victims in today's Western culture. You're intentionally dodging the issue that I'm mocking.

[@šljivka]

The fact that the “anti-feminists” are saying this stuff with their whole chest like they’ve experienced being a woman firsthand is sending me.

[@nunyabizness9842]

The immediate "A pretty woman can get what she wants" comment made me so furious. Like immediately saying that women's value is held in her appearance. Sure, if you're pretty you might get what you want- along with harassment and objectification and a weird sense of ownership from various men- but if you don't fit the beauty standards? It goes that way too- like, to be hired women have to wear makeup- to look presentable. There are literal initiatives that supply homeless women with makeup so they can get hired- because if you're not altering your appearance, you're not presentable. And women who don't fit the beauty standard are immediately devalued as people. NOBODY SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THEIR APPEARANCE- positively or negatively. And that's what women have to deal with, much more than men.

[@daisydaisywcue]

underrated comment fr

[@altheamyrne5042]

preach

[@soundsbeefypops]

Imagine arguing that women shouldn’t be presidents because they are “emotional beings” while also saying that men should be allowed to show their emotions more without judgement from society.

[@Handymancinema]

so both problems are solved then....

[@shemgilbert1991]

you say that based on absolutely nothing though. You just made a completely generalized statement based on nothing and applied it to half the population

[@izzylandyt]

Female Presidents aren’t a new thing.

[@alexthecreator8380]

maybe he means no one should be president 🤣

[@duffydope]

I mean if you are overemotional and someone is emotionless if the emotionless showed more emotion and was still more reasonable you wouldnt choose the woman in this case.

[@stannmixx]

Quinten is so real for just saying "hold on" every time someone tried to interrupt him

[@sn1per501]

That’s what i was thinking lmao, bro let NO ONE interrupt him at all.

[@kysim]

@@sn1per501it was so refreshing after watching the flat earthers vs scientists video

[@dawnmullen4348]

he was on point!

[@juicy8019]

also while being one of the ones that interrupts the most

[@Do27gg]

He was very annoying and didn’t make any decent points

[@superchef_trades4213]

Lmao the moderator bossing them around 🤣🤣🤣 she’s honestly doing a wonderful job

[@Occult1sm]

She is not bossing them around, it's just her job to make sure they stay on topic. Try to come up with something else that feels "empowering" to you😂

[@tonyonaperky2128]

@superchef_trades4213 So you're okay with women bossing men around but complain when men boss women around. Is this what feminism is about?

[@Sirens-blessing]

…did I interrupt something? Why is everyone so pressed⁉️

[@tonyonaperky2128]

@@Sirens-blessing idk

[@CheechMarie]

Men and women are equally as emotional, we just have a tendency to express them differently.

[@calawendy]

you ate that fr

[@maddylugo8086]

this !!!! because what certain men fail to understand is being angry/offended over things is still considered being emotional! newsflash, anger is an emotion as well!!!

[@EYBeats]

That's actually incorrect, women have a higher range of emotions.

[@Kuneho_08]

AMENNNNNNN

[@jennie.wx7]

I feel like there were the 4 feminists, 2 anti-feminists, and 2 straight up misogynists

[@titia6288]

exactly

[@yunidai16]

Ah, yes, the three genders

[@barbiderka]

@SGN Cloverse and Donovan in my opinion

[@sandra-2043]

@SGN DONOVAN

[@TrischaPepper]

@@yunidai16 the 3 genders 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀

[@evagerdes3444]

“I feel like women are more emotional” While the room is filled up with guys yelling and not allowing each other to speak cause theyre mad and emotional.

[@ROX-gq2mo]

fr its exhausting seeing then just yelling but not listening, so inmature tho

[@insideAdirtyMind]

Yeah, because men think anger and frustration are not emotions, like happyness are not emotions. The majority of men literally behave like todlers, scream and beat up other men or their wives, because they can not control their emotions, but for some reason women are the emotional ones. Just scratch a mans ego a bit and he gets so very emotional, but of course he is not emotional he is controlled while he abuses you and screams at you and If women get angry there is of course no reason for this, because they are just crazy and emotional for no reason

[@DavidW-ng5zv]

​@@insideAdirtyMind, so if men are emotional, what is your solution? Please note that emotions are a bad thing.

[@britneyvik34]

@@DavidW-ng5zvthe solution is to let them be emotional and stop telling women that they are emotional for acting in the same way 😅

[@turquoisestranger7566]

@@DavidW-ng5zvplease note that anger is an emotion.

[@Idktodaybubbles]

36:42 They skipped over the fact that COMPANIES SHOULDN’T BE OFFERING A DIFFERENT WAGE FROM THE START!

[@tonyonaperky2128]

@@Idktodaybubbles Women are not paid less because they are women. It's based off of something else

[@HellCat_Kenny]

THEY DONT AND HAVENT FOR DECADES

[@tonyonaperky2128]

@@HellCat_Kenny tell em king

[@tonyonaperky2128]

@@HellCat_Kenny tell em king

[@clair55en51]

@@HellCat_KennyTHEY DO AND ARE DOING

[@BrookeONeill-qt1rh]

i love quinten going the "hold on, hold on" as people try to interrupt him. say your part king. don't let them do that to you.

[@gvshe996]

As a woman, the amount of times i had to pause this video just to take a deep breath is insane!

[@Sherryryr]

THIS

[@xerxerxo0384]

What a wuss

[@whyareusoannoying2823]

And what triggered me is the most is that is the abortion topic.Because I don't think there is no wrong reason to abort because it could have the environment or health reasons.

[@jwgkouseband4146]

Huh? why does one get out of breath from watching a video.

[@Mpenguun]

@@jwgkouseband4146​​⁠not out of breath. Yk after a long day of work you get home and just take a breath and sigh? That’s what they’re talking about. Perhaps this person is angry or sad about a few of those men’s opinions about the topic that it becomes frustrating for some people to watch as people have the whole idea of a topic that is about them(this person is a woman as stated) is wrong.

[@sunri528]

"I think women are more emotional"- Says the guy that has said "I feel" more times than I have ever said in my entire life

[@zedwalker]

I never got why people say women are more emotional, if that’s the case why do men commit most violent crimes 😂

[@roguegamer8568]

​@@zedwalkerwomen cry about things more men get angry more. That's what that means. Crying gets you nowhere. Anger helps you to push forward. That the difference.

[@portaldolphin13]

@@roguegamer8568 it pushes you forward into a hole is what it does

[@zedwalker]

@@roguegamer8568 Are you trying to justify violent crimes?

[@bbrriaaanna]

I'm sorry is anger not an emotion anymore? men are so quick to call women emotional for crying and having normal feelings but turn around and get angry when a girl rejects them. I learned all the different emotions in 1st grade bro@@roguegamer8568

[@myseaside]

It was scary listening to the debate about abortion. What if the woman is raped and/or cannot take care of that baby? This is one of my biggest fears bc I'm aware that I will never be able to carry a baby, give birth and care for that baby, physically or mentally.

[@brainrotandvodkaslovechild]

“did that help when vote at all, being pretty?” actually amazing. 1:49

[@la1z33]

that antifeminist saying "don't have sex without protection" if you don't want a baby... i hate that nobody mentioned the topic of r4pe and the fact that protection isn't even completely foolproof.

[@jwgkouseband4146]

Less than 1% of abortions come from rape. I do get your point, but it is not really valid to base your opinion about abortions with SA cases.

[@RED-9936]

@@jwgkouseband4146 and most most rape is because these women go out to clubs with strangers who are drunk and maybe horney.

[@manofyourdreams129]

@@jwgkouseband4146 why? its still existent so u can base ur opinion on that

[@LightAndShaddow5]

@@manofyourdreams129 Because it’d eliminate around 99% of abortions.

[@ZipMapp]

Contraception is 100% unless you're a moron and producers write 99% to have an escape route from lawsuits in case consumers are absolute morons. Sperm can't go around a condom if it doesn't break, the pill indeed prevents ovocytes from being feconsated. R4pe is the exception not the norm among unwsnted pregnancies so your point is moot. No one is arguing to force you to keep your r4pists baby.

[@liliadesouza3597]

the amount of times feminism is confused with misandry is actually shocking

[@stephanasstephen3070]

Today's feminism don't make feminism different from misandry

[@deedelta9263]

Yeah, some people that identify as feminists are confused themselves

[@av1935]

Like it was crazy that it wasnt mentioned once either

[@anxietina_]

you would be surprised at the amount of self-proclaimed feminists on twitter that proudly call themselves misandrists, as if it's a thing to be proud of. it's sad.

[@MrNikeNicke]

@Bee "it's not a form of hatred" Bruh Misandry (/mɪˈsændri/) is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men. Bigotry usually comes from some sort of hurt, that doesn't make it justified.

[@nessienethquik]

“mansplaining isnt real its just men explaining” … didn’t he just mansplain the literal definition of mansplaining ??? 😭😭

[@ValourFlame]

Mansplain is a word they created to shame men and stop them from criticizing women. All of the feminist movement has been created by men (rockefeller family)

[@kickassets6414]

Sounds anti men. What do we expect under the banner of (feminism) has nothing to do with substance of character or equality.

[@RaydenCN]

4 feminist, 2 antifeminist and 2 straight up misogynists. Well that was fun.

[@jaydenbrough9624]

I’d argue Clarkson was the only antifeminist who wasn’t a downright misogynist and he was also the only one who was gay so there’s definitely a pattern

[@marissawright7084]

CJ: "It's a shame that the world is so black and white" Also CJ: "Men are supposed to protect and women are supposed to raise children"

[@dsp4392]

CJ is like an off-brand Andrew Tate.

[@nathangaspacio6128]

@@dsp4392 he looks like if andrew tatee didnt go bald

[@diamonshade7484]

​@@nathangaspacio6128he ain't bald More

[@willl9046]

CJ is full of contradictions. He kept saying that he isn’t a victim and isn’t oppressed but also he feels that men suffer under feminism. Like which one is it?

[@jtc1ra]

PragerU hires their bests...

[@QuinnCBeauty]

“They are losing their ability to compete in beauty pageants” “oh boy” was my immediate response too like that’s the issues we are facing

[@Anna-nj7co]

As a woman, that truly affects heavily me on a daily basis

[@madamjuice1000]

😭😭😭

[@Lizanya8]

No because… 😂😂😂

[@kyasonkaylor6807]

Pageants objectify women and put women against each other

[@ragegaze3482]

He is talking about trans women, which is a big current issue, because it's slowly taking more opportunities away from women. Nothing else is blatantly taking away womens rights

[@gabrielahawver2312]

Kevin's aura points are through the the roof...dude has insane charisma 🥲

[@FayeDoggart]

Calling Liz Truss the Mayor of London is wild. She was the prime minister of the UK, like I'm not a fan, she plummeted the UK into a cost of living crisis because of her budget policies, thats why she resigned, because of the econominc crash, not because of her emotions as a woman. At least give her the status she had. Imagine calling Joe Biden the Mayor of Washington DC, that's the level of understanding and knowledge he had of this subject.

[@mishmarie4170]

As a woman, I can tell you that I know with confidence who I would feel physically and emotionally safe around and who I would not, from this video.

[@actinaction]

I love how the antifeminists look exactly how I pictured them to look, would definetely cover my drink when they enter a room...

[@christian_12346]

Okay I agree with some of their points but for the most part they were just braindead incels so yeah I would agree.@@actinaction

[@dodododo6875]

they getting laid huh?

[@xarkee]

thats so real

[@eamezcua188]

@@actinactionexactly, I agree completely, not so much with the comment previously because I feel like they’re all educated but I feel a lot safer with the anti-feminist than the feminist ngl just because the feminist came out talking more aggressively, unprofessional, kept interrupting and being dismissive with the anti-feminist points while the anti-feminist would actually listen and try to give an actual educated answer. Now I MIGHT JUST BE SAYING THIS BECAUSE I’ve been raised by anti-feminist and been around them more that I can completely understand where they’re coming from

[@chu2fan729]

None of y’all have any idea how many times I paused this just to argue by myself

[@MM-tn3qv]

Sameee

[@dwiatmika9563]

Lmao

[@undercover_idiot]

Sameeeee

[@Yesmmm8]

ME TOO

[@ouiouiouiouiouiouiouioui]

me fr

[@n4tural....te4]

I am so concerned about the amount of people who think feminism is "women are better!".the amout is TERRIFYING.

[@chaselizabeth]

The “he’s trapping you” at 19:33 SENTT MEEE

[@pinkishlyshy__8191]

The fact that between anti feminists and feminists, they can all agree that period pain isn’t exaggerated because they know for a fact they can’t say anything on that because they simply don’t experience it, is lovely.

[@coinedartist9893]

@@RetroMamba that is not something ANYWHERE close to period pain... why are you comparing the two?

[@rose-rv5yz]

@@RetroMamba there two different things

[@pikasoccer]

@@RetroMamba are you admitting to rape online sir?

[@ravenscalls]

@@RetroMamba yep totally the same thing

[@robertsarge-xl6vq]

ball pain

[@ronaldijuarez2819]

“If a woman feels intimated it’s on her” THATS CRAZY how do you even say that and full heartedly agree with that statement😭

[@heffsi]

What IS wrong with that? Its the Woman that decides to ASK for a raise. If she isnt confident enough she will earn less. Life isnt fair

[@aishwaryap1291]

And then they go on to say, men feel intimidated and weak because women are empowered. And it's all women's fault. What a level of hypocrisy!

[@rosebon9875]

@@heffsiBc she gets treated in a way that puts her in a position to be more intimidated than other men?💀

[@supersonicfan9584]

​@@heffsifacts. If feminists want equal rights, they should also have equal responsibilities

[@ollehkacb]

​@@rosebon9875fear is subjective. Saying hello to someone may intimidate them Walking on the same side walk may intimidate them. Yes its on the person if they feel fear from potentially innocuous things.

[@HanabiLenwood]

It's always funny to see that anti-feminist men suddently become feminist when it comes to do 50/50 financially.

[@Richdragon4]

I haven't noticed any such notion. The antifeminist side was also agains third wave feminism which isn't primarily about finances. I think that would be the second wave.

[@littleripper312]

They're for 50/50 finances but not equal pay for equal work lmao

[@frogyslays]

THE WAY I ACTUALLY STARTING BALLING MY EYES OUT AT THE "Period pain is exaggerated" I'VE NEVER BEEN HAPPIER!!!! As someone whose cramps bring them to the verge of vomiting and fainting.

[@ohyechlo]

‘women are too emotional’ ‘men should be able to express their emotions’ in the same conversation is INSANE edit, because y'all still have so much to say a year later: i think those statements contradict each other because you're limiting women for expressing emotions yet encouraging/praising men for doing so which is just double standards. it's also faulting women for being "too emotional" as if it's our responsibility that men can't learn how to express themselves. to everyone who's saying the statements can coexist; women being "too emotional" can exist at the same time as men being emotional (at all) and you don't have to put women down for that.

[@jacobydove8213]

Too be fair, neither of those statements are in direct conflict with one another. So why is it insane?

[@AndyPotts0]

There’s a difference between making rash decisions based on emotion and being able to express your emotion…

[@1000OtherFoxes]

why is it insane, it's called balance.

[@cyb3rsvng]

@jacoby dove its hypocritical. the stereotype that women are too emotional is often portrayed in a negative light and seen as over dramatic, why are they criticizing women for being 'too emotional' and then going on to say that 'men should be able to express their emotions' when they roll their eyes at women expressing their emotions? it just doesn't add up

[@may51973]

The emotional stereotype makes me laugh. Some men think if a woman is angry for instance, she is being hysterical, and if a men is angry.. well is being a men

[@eggypeggy9384]

kevin came, spoke respectfully, didn’t speak over others and listened. i am kevins biggest fan. what a sweet person

[@amberlita]

Yeah he nailed it. I was consistently impressed with his responses.

[@prazynagc7645]

i agreed with everything he said. he was quiet throughout but when he spoke, everyone went quiet

[@luceandmusic]

FACTSSSS

[@samhayet4286]

His girlfriend is a very lucky lady! I'm so in love!

[@richardmyers7847]

@@samhayet4286 it's funny Kevin and his group had girlfriends and the anti feminist were single males

[@nitimaarora9925]

I love how confused and disgusted the feminists were whenever the anti-feminists were speaking 💀💀

[@Avlicc]

36:04 "If a woman feels intimidated that's on her." ah.. yeah! When I was scared of men for years because of one guy that SA that is totally on me! So sorry, I should have given the guy a trophy as well!

[@Kittycakes22]

I’d cover my drink around Donavan

[@Nshortstack2213]

i’m leaving the room if donavans there

[@iamanom]

Lmaoo

[@soyyoeltorito]

Oye, The "donovans" will probably defend you from a criminal and pay for dinner instead of sharing it and don't say that it doesn't matter because in real life this is a MUST

[@PincheGuey-gc2or]

😂 hey leave Urkel alone

[@brandonmichael4105]

I was looking for a comment about him. His arguments just sounded like he was trying to throw out buzzwords and different types of government. He seems like an incel

[@robinfox4440]

I hate discussions like this because of the self-righteousness and anger that overrides people's ability to listen. This is the perfect example of "most people don't listen to understand; they listen to reply."

[@ysgslime8251]

Very true

[@NA-ud6qm]

I agree 100%. But it did feel like both sides were listening too each other.

[@nothanks1239]

Agree. I usually click on these videos and just read the comments. It's too frustrating to listen to people not listening.

[@user-pi2wr8pz1t]

I was just thinking that

[@alexgarcia1801]

beautifully said.

[@daisydaisywcue]

bro did not say abortion is also men’s problem, if a women’s life is at risk it’s no longer the man’s problem 😭

[@Theflowingcurrent]

It’s possibly a man’s problem since they might have to pay for it since they are usually the breadwinner

[@daisydaisywcue]

@@Theflowingcurrent its not a problem if you’re saving you’re gfs/wife’s life, or you both agree to get rid of it… also thats a possibility but thats not how he worded it when he said it/ that was not his reasoning

[@sky-om5lm]

Not the purple shirt dude advocating the idea how "women have it easier" and later on claiming it's the woman's fault if she feels intimidated in a male dominated environment. I thought women had it easier? How do we have it easier when we are the ones who need to adapt to environment?

[@danktime216]

"Women are emotional being" meanwhile this is Jubilee's most emotionally charged video

[@huellfring1434]

If it women it will even more emotional

[@ap7football933]

It’s an extremely sensitive topic in the present day so doesn’t rlly have anything to do with them being all men. If you think women are not more emotional than men then you’re seriously deluded

[@ar433new6]

@@huellfring1434 anger is also an emotion btw

[@t.g.6080]

@@ap7football933 Men are clearly more emotional. Look at them, they can barely sit and listen to each other. Constant interruptions, barely hearing the others point. Makes sense you’re ‘seriously deluded.’

[@ap7football933]

@@t.g.6080 😂😂😂😂 you did not just say that, men are more emotional than women? What exactly are you smoking? There’s having an opinion and then just being in straight denial over a blatant fact

[@xe11e]

Respect for Kevin for staying patient and sharing his opinions calmly

[@Rennn360]

Fr

[@Addison.S_DD]

Fr he was super respectful for both men and women

[@user-ws7jx1kg6d]

Litterally

[@lovepeacepatince]

True feminist

[@Sojuboy]

t’s called being asian and having respectful values. Everyone else thinks just cause they’re louder means that they are correct.

[@jaeyah4418]

17:59 my aunt is 40 something unmarried doesn’t have kids and is way more stress free than my mom of 3 kids and my other aunts with children she travels when she wants buys whatever she wants without having to think about anyone else 😅

[@janaepeterson2156]

Not Tucker throwing in "not a felon" into the "fit for president" question lololololol

[@jasmintea8825]

The way they complain about all the standards that men have to obtain but in the same breath shame other men if they are more feminine is crazy 💀

[@Vishnuk-fe9iv]

The fact that you whiny women think you're victims but then bark mysogny when Men speak up is crazy.

[@Vishnuk-fe9iv]

The fact that you whiny women act victim but bark mysogny when Men speak up is crazy and hypocrisy.

[@GMRF1708]

I do not like those standards, but i believe trying to reach them makes me grow

[@Ioncheng803]

@@GMRF1708toxic so-called growth

[@maVie.Ma_Vie]

This!! Like brotha ur crying over Standart that YOU L YOURSELF R SETTING!! feminism is NOT abt that..

[@e.mariannem1640]

Tucker replying with "are you aware of all of history" is the highlight of this whole episode

[@williamg780]

As a history major I laughed so hard lol

[@symonewest5449]

"When men say something that people don't like on the internet they're cancelled"- (by cancelled it sounds like he means criticized) When women say things that people don't like on the internet they get death and rape threats

[@jazmineszlari414]

At the "Women should be be encouraged to be financially independent of men" I could literally feel even the other anti-feminists being horrified when Donavan was explaining

[@mrs.squarepants2868]

Thank you Jubilee for giving me an idea about who I should stay away from

[@13ethirteeni]

Who?

[@Juicegoat_]

Just remember these are ideas. Just because they may express a view that you may not enjoy doesn't retract that they are people who may be nicer than you may believe.

[@ame2395]

@@Juicegoat_ if they think that we are innately weaker than them and have life perfect, then i dont want them to downplay my feelings and emotions as "woman weakness". politics DEFINE PEOPLE

[@mrs.squarepants2868]

@@Juicegoat_ Well these ideas are what shape their personalities so there's no going around it.

[@LookItsDev]

⁠@@ame2395 Weaker how though? Physically it’s obvious women are weaker than men. Emotionally, women are stronger than men. We are just different.

[@mik1902]

The way my jaw just dropped when that one guy didn’t believe women should be financially independent from men. Oh my gosh.

[@mik1902]

And his reasoning….. ayayaye 🤦‍♀️

[@jenniferromero571]

What does it matter.

[@owen3721]

He was the only truly reactionary person there. The other "antifeminists" are just against feminist terminology like "toxic masculinity," "mansplaining," etc. Donovan is the only one who is a true koolaid-drinking traditionalist.

[@0doublezero0]

And plenty of feminist women who don't want men to be househusbands.

[@hanashin7077]

@@0doublezero0 What? Excuse me? Give me evidence, please. I'll fight you with evidence of the opposite side back!

[@gabril7297]

Saying in first place that you’re antifeminist already tells a lot about your ability of misunderstanding such a simple principle.

[@The.rapist911]

if you're anti-feminist you're a fan of the truth go cry abt it

[@yawnzzn1206]

@@The.rapist911 username adds up

[@The.rapist911]

@@yawnzzn1206 No argument detected opinion rejected

[@cheopstiqs]

@@The.rapist911-1/100 ragebait

[@The.rapist911]

@@cheopstiqs keep crying lad

[@BroadwayEnthusiast-zs1qj]

Ok, the president question INFURIATED ME!!

[@seloschxd7194]

"when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." - Franklin Leonard

[@ultraviolentromantic]

yes !!!!

[@MorganHorse]

Yep. Exactly what you’re seeing in this video.

[@Gringoviej0]

facts

[@poocrayon4588]

Meaningless platitude in place of an actual argument

[@ericlester3782]

Say it loud🎉

[@stephanychang6749]

“Period pain is exaggerated” topic was hilarious. Im glad no one came forward 😂

[@TedEhioghae]

Talking about eating icecream when you have period is cringe.

[@mimo5853]

But I bet if there was a group of women and the prompt was “Do you think men over exaggerate pain when they are hit/kicked in the balls?” every women would have stepped forward.

[@kalyani5526]

@@mimo5853 bet away. Nobody really cares about thoughts here

[@mariunfabregas7533]

@@mimo5853 not you comparing period pains to getting kicked in the balls as if getting kicked in the balls is a regular, monthly occurance😭

[@lemoineau2317]

@@mariunfabregas7533 And in some cultures, an occurance that is shamed upon

[@microwavedlemon3918]

the way that some men will refuse to use protection and then blame women for not using protection and not let them have an abortion. Also the guy who said that abortions are enabling women to make bad choices is very icky to me.

[@elenapicco1412]

38:33 yet he’s been whining about being a victim of feminism for 40 minutes straight

[@Lucas_Ficz]

Donovan is the type of person that humanity fought against for nearly all its existence

[@mcn_o1]

Naah. Humanity has actually shunned the pussified men like the feminist ones on here. Societies have fallen because of these men. Weak men were always faught against

[@stephensharper4312]

In other words you flunked out of school

[@MinisDunyasi5]

@@stephensharper4312What do you mean?

[@stephensharper4312]

The statement is completely nonsensical. Humanity has not fought against a type of person...ever. That's just not how it works at all. Any discipline in school should make that assessment impossible as there are no grounds to back it up. History isn't some comic book publication with archetypical villains. @@MinisDunyasi5

[@chalabianadji8430]

LMAO made me laugh fr 😂

[@keke48018141]

The zoom ins on Quinten’s face was comedic gold

[@hobi5959]

timestamp lls

[@cier966]

​@hobi5959 16:28

[@hobi5959]

@@cier966 LMFAOOOO thanks

[@ayatoculus]

just 😦

[@user-zw3pg7nl8yj]

i reacted the same way too cuz what was the guy even trying to say lol he made no sense

[@user-wy2bi2ix1f]

"don't have sex w/o protection" SIR SOME PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO PROTECTIONS

[@Momo-rl3rr]

Then don’t have sex 😂 protection is everywhere who doesn’t have access?

[@katlynlee4633]

@@Momo-rl3rr People can have sex whenever they want, it's not just to make a child. Also, a lot of people don't have access to protection, example, if you're living in poverty.

[@MetaVerseTechy]

Im childfree. Never had a desire to have children. I focused on my career. Best decision of my life.

[@alexandraahlen2201]

Anyone noticed how when Kevin (the guy on the feminist-side with a black and white jacket) spoke, everyone just stopped and listened without interrupting him? He was so calm so that when he spoke, nobody felt the need to cut him off or anything like that. That guy is a perfect example of why staying calm is the way to win an argument, every single time.

[@Fernanda-vq8pq]

yess!!

[@CalmInTheMidstOfChaos]

The softest spoken person in the room is always the most powerful.

[@markrojo9099]

hes fine asf LMAOSOAO

[@robinfox4440]

Feminists are usually the ones who get angry and cut you off when arguing with them, no matter how calmly you point something out. It's impossible to argue with ideologues.

[@laurelleparsonage689]

@@CalmInTheMidstOfChaos unless your a woman cuz then you are scientifically more likely to get spoken over or interpreted

[@ambercherise2391]

Kevin reminds me of my dad: he doesn’t have to dominate conversation, he listens intently, but when he DOES speak, he spits facts. How respectful. EDIT: Thanks for the likes!

[@aaronaguayo4766]

he did not speak facts 😂

[@pc_hmk2204]

​@@aaronaguayo4766 maybe he did not speak facts that you wanted to listen. 😂😂😂

[@cam_br0wn426]

@@pc_hmk2204 he didn’t speak facts. he couldn’t define anything he spoke on, he literally is like a figurehead that’s speaks on what he’s seen other radical feminist say.

[@astelineart2260]

@@cam_br0wn426 Crazy concept that you surround yourself with people you agree with

[@KmiiVC]

your dad is a great guy

[@froginmypan]

This video made me realize i should ask if they are feminist or not before dating them.

[@Monster_monsterG]

So if there not famnist u r not dating them ?

[@froginmypan]

@@Monster_monsterG that’s not your business

[@saaaalmon]

@@Monster_monsterG I wouldn't

[@Moyemite]

​@@Monster_monsterG ofc not am not crazy lol

[@gabepizarro8899]

I wanna know what Donovan’s prescription is. His eyes are literally magnified through the glasses 💀

[@sonyawix5871]

Kevin is so incredibly mindful and thoughtful, and his overall demeanor is just reassuring.

[@supertrollfaxnoprinter3329]

i fuking hate kevin i hope something bad happens to him.

[@katherinegrace9724]

He’s such a gem

[@viviennedunbar3374]

He is sexy.

[@Valonty2]

Loved him from the second he starte talking

[@goaliebattlesproductions4800]

He a feminist, aka brainwashed

[@jessicanguyen3294]

the dude who actually refused to get interrupted, props to u

[@malcolmlittle6870]

Quinten,i think is the one who didnt want to be intterupted🤔

[@tasmaniandevil2689]

@@malcolmlittle6870yeah quinten

[@gxast5427]

I’m sorry, but you can tell that almost all of the feminists look secure in their lives, and mature, and all of the anti feminists except Clarkson seem immature and insecure…

[@damattice23]

Many women do not want to be parents AND that is ok.

[@kamrunnaharkeya9043]

Donovan is never getting a girlfriend.

[@brownskinbeauty.]

I don't think he's looking for one honestly

[@akt3037]

​@@brownskinbeauty.I hope he isn’t

[@brownskinbeauty.]

@@akt3037 I think he likes men and that may be why it comes off as hatred towards women

[@The_Zeta_Male]

i mean....hopefully he won't

[@esberri]

i thought he was gay but…

[@jennaoakley1126]

the way he was saying "if women feel intimidated thats on her" but then also argues that society is "demonizing masculinity" and that whole argument is the funniest thing to me

[@LightAndShaddow5]

Is it also funny to you when a feminist has double standards?

[@Stinkyfefefe]

@@LightAndShaddow5my double stander in a guy is that he has to be fictional

[@LightAndShaddow5]

@@Stinkyfefefe Is that funny?

[@LightAndShaddow5]

@@collective654 How?

[@Stinkyfefefe]

@@LightAndShaddow5 I like fictional men

[@zo0roo]

8:44 something they didn't mention here is that not all women get pregnant through consensual acts. They (the anti feminists) kept mentioning that these are "grown woman" who need to take responsibility and yet there are so many cases of children who have had horrible things happen to them needing abortions. It's a main argument I've seen a lot when the topic of abortion/abortion laws come up so i was surprised nobody threw it in

[@hardly_harlie]

"Women are more emotionally charged and make more emotional decisions"... yeah, lets just ignore the incarceration statistics of men incarcerated for violent crimes of passion (aka, I got uposet and hurt someone) vs women.

[@lizzyleefree1593]

What about women who aren't conventionally pretty? What about women over 40? What about women who are infertile? What about women who are neurodivergent? What about women who are in countries where they are still denied education and other basic rights and safety because of their gender? Where does society see their value?

[@xBrandon888]

If you have to resort to intersectional arguments to make a point about feminism you are basically proving that men and women are already equal.

[@okaydokay9379]

I think they mean most women in their prime can have it easy in life when it comes to opportunities and such just by being in their prime. I believe we should fight for human rights but I also see where they’re coming from.

[@melvinnunez3930]

What about people...

[@g.b.8041]

Some of them can barely handle a discussion about basic rights 💀 You’r asking too much lol

[@nola7921]

Say it QUEEN speak 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@ceradaddygibson]

The idea that men don’t also have ‘pretty privilege’ is false. Attractive men are able to easily use that to their benefit as well. Attractiveness is a different conversation. Unattractive women and men will have to work a little harder in certain contexts regardless of gender

[@LunaticReason]

True but women also value other things way more so looks become less of an advantage in comparison.

[@rachelbarczynski6010]

True buddy i work at subway and if you're a cutie with a pleasant attitude you are getting EXTRA whether you're a boy or girl!!

[@erikflac5822]

You're just gonna ignore the fact that women are seen as beautiful TEN TIMES more than men

[@Nachos4587]

Lol. Not even remotely to the scale women use their pretty privilege.

[@annatar6453]

More women are attractive then men. Just like more men are physically stronger then women.

[@HanRuth14]

I wouldn’t be comfortable in a room with any of the anti feminist in this video. That speaks volumes.

[@ProductiveChi]

And that is a YOU problem. The anti feminists are so tame in this video

[@HanRuth14]

@@ProductiveChi their words are not tame.

[@ProductiveChi]

@@HanRuth14 What are they saying that makes you feel so uncomfortable? I'm a woman and none of these men intimidate me in the slightest. They're all so mellow, their body language, their words, their disposition, all are non threatening.

[@HanRuth14]

@@ProductiveChi you aren’t watching the same video as me. Are you serious?

[@ProductiveChi]

@@HanRuth14 I watched the whole video and you're deflecting. Its a valid question. They're words and opinions, what makes you so uncomfortable? Are you that sensitive?

[@RosaDiegel]

"Women are born with value", tell that to every girl that died while China had its one kid poltics going on. or just in general through out history were sons were more desired cause they carried and inhereted all the familys value. Or even till this day were men get told how sorry everyone feels for them when they only have daughters and no son he can go out and play with.

[@meli6882]

I REALLY like how the guy in the orange shirt, Quinten, just says "hold on" whenever someone tries to interrupt him and finishes his thought.

[@gabriellecollier6235]

Nobody says nothing back to Kevin cause he’s so calm and has amazing responses, props to him.

[@danimotherofchickens479]

Is he the patriarchy guy? Cause it was just because he sounded brain washed

[@gaceofspades]

@@danimotherofchickens479 he is the one in the flannel thing

[@brinsley4599]

Kevin really was amazing, totally impressed me

[@chikentendersandfries]

@@danimotherofchickens479 Lol… ok girl

[@camara1194]

Clarkson did when he asked him to define patriarchy

[@calawendy]

this comment section is RESTORINGGG my faith in humanity

[@xbeezlebubx]

As if Donovan has ever touched a woman. He needs to be quiet, disrespectfully.