Judge Bartles - Emergency Removal - Part One

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[@jefflitchford1422]

I love how she says she don’t have patience for this when she is the reason why they are there

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

That may be why the judge just cut her off and didn't wait for her to get her audio working. After a statement like that, it's obvious she really doesn't want to be there. And it's a subliminal indication that she doesn't even care about having her kids.

[@darleneballinger5410]

Yeah, go figure?

[@PamelaH_HappyVibes]

It absolutely blows my mind that the lady that cared for the baby from 3 months old to 2 years has these kids coming in and out of her life. Give that sweet woman ANYTHING she wants and/or needs. Give the child to her or all the children to her! She is a National Treasure and MUST be protected at all costs. That is the one good thing about these sad cases, you get to see real life Angels on Earth! Bless her ❤

[@OnTropolis]

There are follow ups very soon!

[@PamelaH_HappyVibes]

@@OnTropolis- oh, now I am excited!

[@North_West1]

Love that judge ordered that Ms Zorn to not spoil the kids to much. Ms Zorn seems like a protective steady influence for the children.

[@betsywhite444]

Couldn’t agree more ❤

[@luvcthateba1]

@PamelaH_HappyVibes completely agree but we know she cares it does mean that she can financially care for them or emotionally. We don't know her physical or mental health

[@lilybug246]

They had no food or water and the house was deplorable. Are these people being charged with abuse and neglect? Judge wants them to have supervised visits when mom said go ahead and kill the kids. What is wrong with that judge? They were removed for two years and then returned, why?

[@EatPork76]

Exactly! No food, no running water, no electricity! This CPS worker wants us to believe the children were in appropriate condition with no concerns? Two drunk parents, an "extremely deplorable" house and an empty fridge, I'm sure the kids were in great shape. Eye roll I mean it's not like you need running water to wash your hands or flush the toilet...oh wait! I'm sure the bug bites while sleeping the child complained of aren't at all a bed bug infestation... Casually saying 30 days is the best case scenario for Ms. Zorn being approved is irritating too. This whole video pissed me off. The only reason she took her kid back was the thought of paying child support. Wouldn't want to cut into her government assistance. Gross gross gross. Poor kids

[@kimberlymarino7344]

Because they believe reunification is best. Regardless of how much it puts the child thru. I've been a foster/adoptive parent for over 30 years. I'm sadly on my last foster children. I just cannot deal with how things have changed over the years. The parents are given so many chances to get it right. Some do and those moments are wonderful! But too many just do the bare minimum and keep getting and losing their children. They go from chaos, weeks to months for them to settle into stability only to be put back in chaos months to years later. And repeat over and over. No one seems to care about how all the craziness effects these children. It does. I've watched children go from babies to teens in and out of care and it never ends with a happy well adjusted teen. Sorry to rant.

[@mariagonzalestexas]

Because the judge is an IDIOT.

[@OnTropolis]

Because it's a legal requirement to offer visitation

[@JG-kp1sf]

@@kimberlymarino7344you are so right on every point. I work in the system and I can’t think of any situation where we tell adults in abusive situations to go back -or you have to visit your abuser -yet we expect it of our most innocent -just so sad! Thank you for putting your heart on the line as a foster parent❤

[@DemonsSister]

This infuriates me. The father has cirrhosis but continues to drink alcohol. So, our tax dollars are paying for him to drink and for hospital visits. This is ridiculous! These poor children have been put through the ringer. I get so frustrated when they return the kids and they get pulled away again. This is done. Terminate their rights. The kids deserve a STABLE LIFE!

[@melancholygirl840]

They were probably were getting snap too and allegedly selling their snap for cash!

[@aliciadavis4707]

Ur right.. but what’s worse seeing kids with addicts as parents or let cps take them and the get beat and raped

[@shelldeluca]

Growing up my family was a foster home. We had one baby when he was 2, after a yr and half they sent him back. A few months later we got him back after being in the hospital from his parents burning him all over his body with cigarettes "to teach him not to get in the ash tray". We adopted him but unfortunately he always dealt with severe behavior issues, even as an adult. He was born addicted to meth, had detachment disorder, adhd, later bipolar etc. Despite being in a loving home, the damage his parents did were too great to overcome. So very sad. On a positive note, we adopted 2 other children who are wonderful successful adults now. I saw many parents get their shit together & had successful reunification. But I saw plenty of stufff that was heartbreaking.

[@shelldeluca]

I can also say there are great cps workers & horrible ones. I worked for CASA for many years. Through working in the courts and being a foster home, I have seen alot of very baised cps caseworkers who are on power trips & really over-reach. Anytime cps gets involved its a very risky situation of it they will do the right thing for these families or not. They have alot of power that can manipulate the court.

[@LINDATHRALL-pb8zu]

THE ALCOHOLIC NEEDS TO BE FED TO THE PTSD2 COMPLEX RED BELLIED PIRANHAS

[@FernVert]

The woman who spoke about the child getting the bus from her home has this entire travesty in one sentence. When the 'mother' accuses her of wanting child support. That's all that matters to these 'parents'. The children are nothing but cash cows to them. It's beyond despicable.

[@amylieber3988]

She was the only one who seems to genuinely care about those poor babies

[@anhonorableindependent9124]

The social worker is either new or unprepared. She does not know how to handle questions and testifying for a hearing. God, she was frustrating me with her short answers and mumbling! You're the main person that speaks for these Children right now, get it together!!! You get paid!

[@blakpokohanes3623]

This

[@melissachatwin9673]

this is typical

[@petermckinnon7102]

My thoughts exactly.

[@michellepangle7259]

Preach!

[@michellepangle7259]

And it gets on my last nerve when she says she “assumes”! Court is NO PLACE for your ASSUMPTIONS!

[@MrsBees]

Dad is bold.... how do you ask the CPS investigator to take you to go buy alcohol? Wow

[@uppity1]

The dept has an opportunity to move quickly to place the children with a caring adult they know, but the dept. remains stuck on a lengthy process. smh.

[@christinablair1978]

They need to expedite the process with the lady who has already been raising the child.

[@familyof5728]

Totally agree. I hope that they can get this done asap. These kids need to be with someone who truly loves and wants them.

[@kerryadams9100]

Thank God they got those kids out of that house and away from those horrible parents. I will be waiting for a follow up on this one.

[@Calipush75]

This worker is a sorry a. No notes, no follow-up calls to verify prescriptions or anything. Looking up in the air to answer questions is disturbing. What if she's relieved of her duties without any documentation in the files? Just horrible case handling, it's all in her head. Just unprofessional and lazy, embarrassing for children's services period.

[@michellepangle7259]

I feel like she’s new or overworked with many cases.

[@taramay8174]

Sounds like children services 😂

[@sheiladiaz2359]

Just how many cases do you think she has?? Case workers are overwhelmed overworked. She was called out to the situation at 1 o’clock in the morning. How many of these cases do you think she does? There is a very big shortage in foster care, parents or parent that can take these children I think under the circumstances she has done well.

[@debbiemohekey1509]

@@sheiladiaz2359 Its still not good enough. Poor kids.

[@Ilovemyhusband6969]

@@debbiemohekey1509exactly when HUMAN lives are in your hands you need to do everything you can for their best interest. She just assembly lined those kids.

[@melancholygirl840]

Those poor babies have been through so much! I hope that lady who has actually been in there lives should have them placed as permanent!

[@jackieraulerson2005]

These people do not deserve kids. Someone PLEASE save these kids!!!!

[@-HeyLyd-]

Thank God for this relative who the children know and who is willing to take them. I can only imagine the terror and despair of that young girl who thought she was returning to her safe haven only to have her unstable and selfish mother insist on keeping her. Enough with these informal stipulations where seriously unfit parents are allowed to make agreements for placement and then pull the children back into chaos. If I were this relative, I wouldn't be asking mom for permission for the bus; I'd be petitioning the court for legal guardianship. It's a huge commitment, but you just can't properly protect children long-term until the court provides you with legal rights. If this mom and dad are as bad as they sound, I think the relative's guardianship action would likely be successful.

[@North_West1]

By the very nature of Stipulations, stipulation must be agreed to by both (all) sides.

[@-HeyLyd-]

@@North_West1 Yes, I know. So, rather than rely on custody arrangements that are stipulated to by parents (who can then rescind their agreement), my comment was suggesting that a concerned relative who wants to protect children long-term should file a guardianship action where a parent's stipulation is not required as long as you can prove parental unfitness to the Court.

[@Its_April-]

​@@-HeyLyd-very well said dear. Points are 100% valid and right on the nose . ❤

[@LaurenH-vo8pu]

Genuine question: why does everyone say the CPS worker is doing so badly? Her testimony sounds fine to me?

[@ThinkB4uAct2]

Right? I was waiting for someone else to testify

[@danirae78]

I literally just rewound this searching because I thought I skipped a part. I thought she was very well spoken too!

[@billbombshiggy9254]

Because she didn't tell the father there would be a hearing. She apparently told someone else. 21:23

[@Hereforthisfoolery]

What an amazing woman to step up and help those kids. Sounds like the kids love her and I hopefully they let them go back home with her.

[@justineburoker]

WOOOOOW mom with the computer issues in the beginning.

[@familyof5728]

The potential family member placement seems extremely invested in the wellbeing of these kids and it sounds like at least one of the children has spent a large portion of her life in her home. I hope that they can expedite that process and get the kids into the home of someone who very obviously loves them and wants them. I really wish that she would have been granted access to visitation. I'm sure that these kids need as much support as possible and 2 weeks is forever when you're a child. This is devastating.

[@MidnightAndLuna]

It was irritating to hear the reaction of the caseworker, like it was a bother to get the process expedited and rolling.

[@bmom1534]

Thank you so much for labeling who each person is. The only channel ive seen that does that. It can be confusing trying to see who is who. Love your channel

[@sherrileduc4220]

Thank god for the lady who stepped up to take Brenda. She is a beacon of light.

[@DocBree13]

I agree! I hope they get permanently placed with her!

[@MineChanclas]

🙌

[@MortishaPoppins]

This proceeding highlights the importance of having the ability to cleary communicate and thoroughly document data regarding each case . Clear communication of facts regarding each situation is essential.

[@jessicareynolds8011]

I pray these little angels are safe and happy

[@Liz_H9319]

Get those kids out of a strangers foster home and place them with the lady they know that cared enough to show up to the hearing.

[@KansasCityScientologyAudit]

That sad thing about bipolar is, historically, they don't take their meds long term because of how it makes them feel. The highs are great, before the lows come crashing down, and they miss those highs. If they won't take their meds, that's their choice, but they shouldn't have their kids then!

[@loosie5224]

Right. Kids should not have to pay the price for their parent's MH issues, especially when parent is irresponsible about their treatment

[@sherryd.3425]

I agree about the safety of children. There are bipolar people everywhere. Most people live very normal lives and nurture their children. They are, however, subjected to the same biological and stressful life events as the rest of us. Life events and medical events can spin any of us out of our safety zones and into crisis. Please have compassion. Most people live normal lives...until they/we don't or can't. Medicine can only help...it isn't a cure.

[@KansasCityScientologyAudit]

@sherryd.3425 I agree with you. I have several bipolar friends, & 1 bipolar schizophrenia friend. I have watched them do well, & I have watched them struggle. With 1 in particular, I have watched his children suffer too. At this moment, I am quite concerned about my bipolar schizophrenic friend, as she has just suffered a life shattering loss of an 11 yr old child who has been ill since birth. She seems to be holding on right now, but we are all ready to catch her, should she need us to. Drugs are not always the answer, but sometimes they are. In the end, children should not have to suffer. In the end, we also absolutely need better mental health services around the world!

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

Most people diagnosed with bipolar don't have it. Seroquel is a very expensive drug, and psychiatrist just dole out to anybody who says they feel good one day and feel bad the other. And the pharmaceutical companies then give the psychiatrists incentives for prescribing their new comic expensive drugs. And was bipolar disorder, you can describe two drugs, one for the highs, and one for the lows. Cha ching cha ching. Most people diagnosed with bipolar disorder have mood or personality disorders, not chemical imbalances. It's like going to the doctor because you don't know how to walk, but they give you pills for your headache. That's not going to teach you how to walk. In fact, that might make your brain feel even worse.

[@KansasCityScientologyAudit]

@JeremiahLOsborne I don't disagree with you at all on the big pharma! They wine & dine doctors, whether Psychiatrists or GPs, & drugs are regularly prescribed that may not be needed at all, or a much cheaper version is available. That being said, IF a parent has mental health issues that are effecting, & sometimes traumatizing children, THAT is not fair to the children.

[@TheDisgustedOldLady]

I don’t have a lot of love for GA DCFS after my professional dealings with them throughout my career. I came within a Charlie-Hotel of locking one of them up one time for not doing her job. But I know they are underpaid and over-worked. We have GOT to stop paying people to pop kids out with no repercussions.

[@jessicachastain5851]

Lord the mom no wonder they are taking her child

[@judyhorstmann6332]

I have more experience with being on the other side of the coin of addiction than anyone should have. Parents, siblings, childhood best friend, nieces, nephews, In-laws.... it always destroys everything in it's wake. The only hope is sobriety in recovery. That takes a decision to seek and stay in recovery. It is always their responsibility.

[@JessicaRaeneYo]

We need follow up on this case. ❤

[@Timbergal]

That woman who keeps talking when asked if she can hear them…she is beyond help

[@Scram673]

The mom

[@dianethomas9384]

The goal should not be "family reunification", it should be providing a safe loving home for the children. The worst examples I know of were two separate cases where two little boys were savagely murdered by their mothers' boyfriends, both cases were in the Antelope Valley area of Los Angeles Co, CA. I am still saddened when I think of what happened th Gabriel Fernandez and Anthony Avilla. Both cases were worse than this but none the less these children should not be with these immature brats.

[@terriedotson1154]

This has to be a terrifying experience for our social workers to have to testify in court. Does the "department" do anything to prepare them for the process? It doesn't appear so.

[@North_West1]

How about approving visitation for aunt (at least electronic). Sounds like aunt raised the child until mom ripped child back.

[@patriciaevans5906]

No more trying to work with these two….they want to destroy themselves so be it…..do not take those children with you. The “mom” should have been in jail. I have empathy for those with problems as long as they are trying to do better. These poor kids. No visits…nothing…..terminate rights…..or actually the “parents” have pretty much already done that themselves.

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

If you have empathy for people who are trying to do better, how do you feel about them before they realize they need to try to get better?

[@patriciaevans5906]

@@JeremiahLOsborne I do have some empathy for them because I do know what that feels like. What I don’t have empathy for or very little are those who are given chance after chance after chance…then they get before a judge and they bring up their children and how they need to do better for them but don’t seem to put forth the same energy before they are facing jail time or prison. They think about them then but not before or if they do it’s not that important till court. I understand there’s a lot of people who have a very hard time actually coming to grips with the fact of where they are in their lives. It’s mostly the ones with children who I get upset with when they’ve been arrested for the same things over and over and offered help over and over but blow that help…until court…for the 3rd or 4th time but now “realizing” they need to help themselves to be there for their kids. Some are actually so bad off they can’t come in out of the rain by themselves…and that’s sad. How many chances do you give a person? When do you take that opportunity and give it to someone else? If there are kids involved then they are in the situation as long as you are…unless they’ve either given up their rights or had them terminated. I also get that drugs & alcohol will absolutely take over a person’s life…I also realize a person will have to fight to get better. There needs to be something to get your attention.

[@JeremiahLOsborne]

@@patriciaevans5906 If someone is sick, how many chances do you give them? It's obvious that the father is an alcoholic, and Mom has some emotional issues. The children are being neglected, but the adults are also neglecting themselves. That should be an indicator that their behaviors are not directed towards the children. And neither should you be angry with the parents, if you understand that they are sick. You can give a sick person as many chances as You want, but sick people don't make choices to be sick. And if they can get over their problems, so be it. But some people can't. Some people kill themselves because they can't get over their problems. We don't demonize them, but have the utmost empathy. That person has taken a physical action to relieve their pain. Which is the same thing that drug addicts and alcoholics do. That's why you must have just as much empathy for the parents as you do the children. I shouldn't have to qualify my comment by adding that I don't condone the activities of the parents. I am providing an objective analysis.

[@patriciaevans5906]

Just because you can make a baby certainly does not mean you should have the right to be parents….especially when you put other things first. Rights should be terminated now. Screw up your own lives but get away from those children. Some “parents” shouldn’t have the right to continue on and on….it shows these are too screwed up.

[@jessisamess8]

38:59 that’s exactly what I was thinking. A month can feel like a lifetime (with strangers) to a child. God this is so sad

[@lisaann3840]

The judge sitting in his office alone, wearing a mask in 2023 😂 during a zoom meeting. 😂 what a nut!!

[@OnTropolis]

He's not in an office, nor is he alone. He's in a court room with a balifs and a clerk and a court reporter and multiple people for in person court and all the people that are in and out of a busy courthouse. Also, he wore a mask before covid, he has mentioned it on occasion because he has some immunity issues. All that said, why do so many people care about a personal choice that doesn't affect them?

[@lisaann3840]

@@OnTropolis still it’s eccentric. Show me where this judge wore a mask before Covid. I would literally stand corrected if such existed.

[@OnTropolis]

@@lisaann3840 well considering court didn't stream on KZbin before covid I can't. I've been watching since long before I started creating court content and he has mentioned it numerous times. Again tho, you assume a person exists in that little zoom square and I find that funny. Surrounded by people in a public place and with an immune disorder is a perfectly reasonable circumstance for him to choose to mask if it makes him more comfortable.

[@merrybells]

I wear masks in public. I have chronic illnesses and I'm immunosuppressed.

[@tias2705]

​@lisaann3840 That's ridiculous. People wore masks in public and at work before covid. I had a friend who wore a mask and rubber gloves in public because of her cancer treatment in the late 90s. Masks in public has been common in many counties across the world pre covid. It's not eccentric to safeguard your health, especially for those with medical conditions that make them or a loved one vulnerable. It's bizarre that you demand proof of prior mask use to justify someone's personal decision to use a mask.

[@antheairenedevilliers1657]

All in all a totally chaotic environment. Addiction, neglect, unsanitary conditions, starving kids, no boundaries, no stability... God help those poor kids

[@judithgarcia5732]

That Ms. Smith is not very good at this. Is it the court thing? She's all over the place, not spicific at all. Wonder why DCFS gets such a bad name, these are the folks who protect these poor children. REMOVE the kids! Thank God for the woman who wants the children.

[@alexs6770]

Judge seems to be very concious of doing whats best for the children.

[@SimplyBonnie87makeup]

what the heck is the system doing? At the very least, the relative should have visitation right away until everything is squared away so the children can have some kind of normalcy in their life. Its obvious that either parent will not be visiting in the next two weeks. After so long, children will act out and it will take a while to undo that.

[@amyh7554]

God Bless Ms. Zorn!!!

[@strife3084]

OMG... People have plenty of notice of their court hearings, WHY they choose to figure out how to work Zoom AT their hearing just blows my mind! I personally haven't had the need to use Zoom, but I know they (Zoom) sends emails & have tutorial info on getting on & connecting to "practice" well before the hearing date! It really should (hopefully) be noted in the Judge's notes on the case if parents have "technical difficulties" connecting on time to their hearing, as that would be an obvious sign to me that that parent isn't willing to go "that extra mile" to get their kiddo back. That s just sad.

[@lorimcbrayer8431]

These people are NOT adult enough to do anything else so how would they know how to do zoom?? They easily do what is free and easy, have FREE sex and get high

[@djjones7226]

The social worker Ms Smith doesn't sound like she has a very clear or concise concept of what this situation entails... neither the history nor the current status. Even when she offers a quasi informed response she does so in a manner that indicates having no real direct knowledge..or even a semblance of familiarity, thereof! That's a problem when the immediate safety and well being of innocent children hangs in the balance! It would seem as if the first order of business would be to assign someone to the case who has the capacity to give a damn about these babies. It's infuriating to hear the woes of "scheduling" when discussing the need to obtain approval for Ms Zorn to be the placement for all the children. She already had Brenda from the age of 3 months via DCFS placement...update that data and get these Littles' settled, for God's sake.

[@MizKris]

A one story townhouse apartment?? All of these agencies and people are a mess!! I am not a fan of this judge for so many reasons. He needs to retire. He's always so pro awful parent irregardless of how atrocious of a parent they are. He's so concerned about this alcoholic father who's asking the CPS worker to go buy a bottle and psychotic mother who wants to kill her children's right to visit he doesn't even ask do the kids feel safe , how are they doing, do they even want to see these trash parents??!! He's so out of touch. This whole thing was absolutely infuriating to listen to CPS come in and do everything they could to cover themselves for letting these poor kids slip through the cracks. That CPS lawyer did all he could to twist words to get that incompetent worker out of trouble. The only good soul in this fight was that lovely neighbor bless her heart for opening her heart and home to these children.

[@annewhite4392]

Thank you. Not going to listen to all of it. Too upsetting. Done with these bad judges.

[@JenessaAndKingston]

I think row house is what she meant. Similar to how one story motels are built.

[@eyesaidit5195]

Right! I said “it’s a whattt?!” 😂

[@DocBree13]

I agree!

[@Scram673]

@@amberstorm1139 sure they are making everything up. The kids have no electricity, water and have bedbug bites. The dad is an admitted alcoholic so it doesn’t matter weather he asked for a ride. There was talk of Fentanyl. There was a third party who reported that the mom said “go ahead and kill them” it wasn’t cps who said that. Where there’s smoke there’s fire and this is a high trash fire. Bad parents love to shit on CPS and it makes me laugh. CPS doesn’t KNOW you unless you are irresponsible to begin with.

[@annawitt8794]

This judge sounds like the guy in that video where he declares "I am not a cat." 😂😂

[@lorimcbrayer8431]

Lol😂

[@jessicachastain5851]

Most recently… hmm normal occurrence i assume

[@leeannepilkington9356]

I can't imagine not having water and electricity when I had my kids. I did anything I could to make sure my children were safe healthy and happy. This is so awful give these children to the nice lady who knows them and cares for them.

[@betsyhughley-alford9065]

This CPS worker was up on her info. Excellent testimony

[@KansasCityScientologyAudit]

Thanks! As always great but disturbing cases!

[@OnTropolis]

Thank you so much 😊😁😌

[@KansasCityScientologyAudit]

@@OnTropolis ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@chudleyflusher7132]

Living off an extension cord after burning down their previous place. Perfect.

[@gailmorra]

Some of these workers need to be retrained on how to comminicate.

[@hateisforlosers6116]

That's terrible that it will take 30 days to check out the family member!!!

[@maryannkondracki2831]

The social worker needs to do better follow up. These are innocent children who depends on them when the parents can not. She should be reprimanded .

[@shelldeluca]

This cps caseworker is lazy and inadequate. In an effort to protect parental rights of these horrible parents, this caseworker could actually hinder keeping them safe. The cps atty tried to re-word & clean up her sloppy work. Only so much he can do.

[@djjones7226]

Exactly! Thank you!

[@badgranny6311]

Exactly!!! I just posted a rant about that, I used to be a service social worker and I was screaming at her while watching this!!! No wonder kids get in trouble with inadequate and inappropriate placements…

[@jackiemarini3203]

My heart breaks for those little ones 💔Thank God they are not in that mess anymore.

[@bmom1534]

Id love to get into social work. Its been my dream for years..im 35 and worry its too late. The amount of schooling required makes it feel damn near impossible. Id love to help kids just like this. My sister is a cps supervisor in oklahoma. I live 10 states away but kids in every state need help 😢

[@DevilOnlyKnitsLace]

It's never too late! I did an LMFT program with students who were in their 60s. Nothing wrong with a second, third, or fourth career!

[@dianethomas9384]

It might take as much as 6 years, maybe less if you already have at least some college. Ask yourself in six years where will I be? Will I be helping children in need or will I be still be wishing I could. If you start now you will have 20 or more years to work in the field. GO FOR IT!!!

[@lorimcbrayer8431]

You would have a headache job. Too many people that cause constance problems for social workers plus people with erratic behaviors and social workers making home visits.

[@mr.waldodebaldo3208]

OnTropolis you have the best videos but after this one I will have to take a brake It hit me hard in the feels for the children

[@OnTropolis]

I have some adoptions coming up in the queue. I'm also ready for some light at the end of the tunnel x

[@bethewalt7385]

*break *brakes are on your car

[@mr.waldodebaldo3208]

@@bethewalt7385 that’s what I meant, brakes on a car haha

[@burgundybutterflies4910]

I know those kids have behavior issues with a mother like that. God bless the people taken care of them.

[@crimsonheather]

Sharpsburg is in Coweta Co. and I haven’t lived in GA in 30 something years. How do they not know which county these babies are in?

[@doribellan]

27:09 It’s a peeve of mine when people answer questions incorrectly. “They’re not employed?” “No.” That’s not saying they’re unemployed… that’s responding no, they are not employed… that they are employed. It happens a lot but especially in court, where language is important. This CPS attorney has had to re-ask several questions to this CPS case worker because she answers questions incorrectly a lot.

[@hotsoup1001]

Ask better questions. 🤷

[@sawyerthestarling]

I agree the issue is in the question. They ask using negatives and get answers in the affirmative. It should be a simple yes or no question to get a simple yes or no answer.

[@doribellan]

@@sawyerthestarling The conversation typically leads into the question. They were speaking of one not having a job, so he asked if that was still the case. I do believe that’s simple enough to understand, and it is indeed a yes or no question. It’s like the saying many ruin by stating, “I could care less.” It just requires someone to think about what they’re saying. It comes across as lazy, when one doesn’t.

[@sawyerthestarling]

@@doribellan I get what you're saying. Every time I hear things like "very unique" or "I could care less" a small part of me dies. I don't like statements with a question mark on the end. I find it difficult sometimes to know exactly what they're asking but I know it's framed for a particular answer. I guess it should be answered more with a correct/incorrect response. "She doesn't have a job?" I would answer "that is correct" since yes or no would confuse the situation. I'm certainly never going to argue that people should listen more to not only others but mostly exactly what comes out of their own mouth. Words have meanings, no doubt. Seems like lots of people have forgotten that.

[@doribellan]

@@sawyerthestarling An eloquent response, no doubt! You’re right, the correct/incorrect responses are more direct and I find myself using them instead, in order to be clear. Words certainly do have meaning, although today, we see people giving the words spoken by others, far too much importance. One can only control their own words, not others,” and the recent insistence for compulsory speech is dangerous. Nice discussion, thank you! Have a wonderful day. :)

[@hollies5841]

I wish the judges had signs ready on zoom they could hold up to say 'we cannot hear you' or 'you're muted, stop talking' or 'put that cigarette out and stop driving' etc

[@jackiemarini3203]

Thank you . They are addicted.Please never let them have the chrildren back inless they are clean.I can not imagine what the Chrildren seen 😢And have been through.

[@user-zp5ii4fp3p]

Are you kidding me ! She just answered that question!

[@kennedystarr8094]

There should be NO more court hearings remotely. Come to the damn courthouse!! There are only a couple options to punish parents like these..

[@lorimcbrayer8431]

I agree!

[@emo7636]

This is awful. Sometimes I wonder how it's fair that people like this are able to have children, but others who would make great parents can not.

[@christinablair1978]

I have wondered this my entire life. My ONLY dream in life was to have a child, I am 45 and I have never been able to have children. PCOS and severe Endemetriosis apparently robbed me of that dream. It is now robbing me of my health and, my hair...

[@dolliedoty8907]

thats y children suffer in foster homes as well....no one really acts like they know whats going on

[@lori1246]

The fact that we are in 2023 and the communication is this poor really upsets me.

[@ayceleijae]

Can’t afford water/electricity/food yet both drink alcohol/fentanyl/Percocet 🤬those poor babies, get them AWAY!

[@Dragonfly_vbz]

They should have allowed Grandma visits and contact with them immediately. Better for kids' emotional well-being. 😢

[@DocBree13]

Seems like they could give temp custody to the previous Forster mother while this is going on - since she has a relationship I and previously approved

[@MidnightAndLuna]

That social worker either needs more training or to find another job. She came totally unprepared and had trouble answering questions. She seemed like this was such an inconvenience to be there. Ute part of her job!! I hope a new caseworker is assigned.

[@KaseyNlopez]

Every child deserves parents, but not every parent doesn't deserve a child😔

[@jonnsmusich]

This is a slow burn disaster involving sub par professionals and utterly incapable parents.... It feels like most of these folks just show up for the pay check.....SO many of the courts you show are exemplary in comparison.

[@colleenmoylan4214]

Why can’t they stay with the family that wants them,that has had them most of their life??? This is so shady. It’s ok to be with strangers?

[@North_West1]

Seroquel is an anti-psychic medication. Not controlled substance, rx required. Off-label seroquel is also prescribed for severe insomnia. Seroquel is not a drug of abuse.

[@OnTropolis]

You're correct about the classification however it's definitely a medication that is abused. The intense sedative effect makes it desirable for some people. Personally I don't know why because I was briefly prescribed it for sleep and I absolutely hated it. So heavy!

[@melissakresky9186]

As a nurse I can tell you that even some meds most would consider as not controlled substances are in fact controlled substances. Gabapentin aka Neurotin ( a seizure med with several off label uses) is a controlled substance. Lyrica (anti depressant with several off label uses) is a controlled substance etc. Seroquel is a somewhat commonly abused drug unfortunately. I've seen it multiple times at the hospital I work at. The most common form of abuse of it would be using it as a means for suicide.

[@pussygalore731]

​@@OnTropolisYou didn't ike because its called a liquid kosh, it knocks you out and causes memory loss

[@bethewalt7385]

Are you insane? Seroquel is absolutely addicting and abused, I've watched 2 housemates in a share house misuse it, go crazy without it and buy it off the street when needed

[@makenziecely]

@@melissakresky9186The gabapentin misuse always confuses me. I was on and off that medication (sometimes as much as 2400-3000 mg a day) for nearly a decade and it never gave me any pleasant side effects. If my pain management physicians didn’t require me to take in addition to the 24/7 needed pain meds, I would have discontinued long ago. Even after becoming so tolerant the only way I could get any sleep benefits was to take as a single large dose at night (with my doctors permission), it still didn’t make me feel high or relaxed.

[@cyndib511]

It sounds like Ms Long wants to drag this out as long as possible. Get the kids back to a familiar caregiver. This is sickening.

[@rachel8622]

Can I get info on the foster mom to send her money? Bc that woman deserves support

[@internetuser7156]

I can't believe this on KZbin. This would be confidential in California.

[@burglar42]

California is fookt!!!

[@energeticremedies]

Gid bless the family member who's being the Mom

[@suziedebolt6619]

Ms Smith is making me crazy moving around like this get it together

[@ChiliCattt]

Former CASA here, and to answer why any parental contact is still permitted, these days reunification is always the first choice. Children usually do better with their natural parents, even if their parents suck. Child services usually only take the children when *provable* danger exists in some form, be it parental addiction, abuse, lack of services/provision, and/or parental refusal to work services.

[@dianethomas9384]

So wrong. Where is proof that any kid does better with alcoholic or drug addicted parents rather than being in safe living conditions with caring parents

[@teresa6775]

Is judge going to catch the flu through the camera ? Bless his heart.

[@OnTropolis]

He's in a courthouse

[@teresa6775]

@@OnTropolis yes, and speaking to the camera not someone standing in front of him.

[@OnTropolis]

You realize he's not alone, right? He doesn't live in the zoom box. He has court admin a clerk and officers all around. He does in person court as well as zoom in the same day. There's nothing wrong with an old man with immune issues (which he has mentioned he does) who works in a busy courthouse wanting to do what little he can. Why does it hurt non maskers when other people exercise their prerogative to wear one? He's not asking anyone else to

[@teresa6775]

@@OnTropolis ok

[@iamglow7]

​@OnTropolis I get hateful/political comments constantly in my community for wearing a mask . I work in health care , directly with patients who have compromised immune systems, so even on my off time I wear a mask in public. I don't explain, I just ignore. It's very upsetting sometimes though.

[@Katrina-je2kp]

I feel bad for them thats how we was living when we were young. Im over 50 now but all of us has issues. I mean we lived exactly like that.

[@judyhorstmann6332]

I am sorry there was no one there to help you and your siblings. I can imagine there was much less help for children living like this.

[@amandabernard8179]

I took seroquel for nightmares. It took 3 years to train my body to sleep on its own after I stopped taking it

[@user-zp5ii4fp3p]

She already told you that ! Try listening!

[@Gina-up4nk]

The social worker doesn't sound like she knows how to do her job!!

[@alicemazzucco2345]

This is just sad, the kids already know anf love this lady,the oldest was raised by her,she went threw all the stuff bk then ,i mean good god they cant schedule a day for her to drug test and do paperwork in one day so these poor babirs can be with someone they know and love, the lady wants to have them shr loves them. Just saf how the system says o just depends on when we can make app,u would think they would want to get it done now. The system is broken iv seen it so many times it breaks my heart. I pray the kids do get to be with this lady and have the love and care by ppl who already know and love them

[@ravenmoon.]

i think so mother and father needs pay all food stamps back too government. poor kids and another lost kids too the system that already overwhelmed They need Competent Care and attention these children need not to just be flushed through a system that turns blind Eye. 😒 😢

[@mrs.rogersneighborhood]

OMG!!! This is my area!

[@lorame4787]

The judge isnt happy with socal worker

[@bethewalt7385]

Don't believe they're in socal, it's Georgia I believe

[@judyoneal7887]

⁠@@bethewalt7385yes, this is GA. 🙄 Henry County is just south of metro Atlanta. I live north of metro Atlanta. 🙄 It’s embarrassing how inept the social worker is when it comes to doing her job. She’s not making widgets here; the life & wellbeing of children are in the balance. Ms. Zorn, the wonderful lady whose had the kids all these years, needs her approval expedited. 30 days! That’s a lifetime to a child. It doesn’t need to be a long process. Bless her, she wants to visit them. She clearly loves them, the kids love & emotionally need her. She is a savior to these kids & solves the placement problem for CPS. I’d be jumping all over the chance to help get Ms. Zorn’s paperwork done, & have her officially approved. Then I’d ensure she received every bit of support (financial or otherwise) from the County she’s eligible to receive. Those babies need her! This process is infuriating to me.

[@amandaharris5055]

​@@bethewalt7385 she meant to say social 😂

[@tracyshaffer4510]

What do these social workers make per year? I hear they are under paid, I’m curious.

[@petermckinnon7102]

Extremely poor testimony by chayil smith. One would think that the agency she works for would give her better training in these cases.

[@cmmc3400]

LR Huff has a picture instead of video or something. Either that or she doesn't need to blink! LOL

[@LaurenH-vo8pu]

Haha she does move but she’s very still!

[@IsraelWillBeFree]

Why dont cps take picts and have proof to back up their statements..their investigations. Why can cps sever parental rights but i cant get my ex husbands rights taken unless i have a husband to take on my boys?! Freaking weird

[@OnTropolis]

They do take photos for evidence

[@IsraelWillBeFree]

@OnTropolis no they dont..or not always. They are known for being liars. They're known for being more evil then good. Period. They need to be defended and they should be required to follow the law and prosecuted when busted in their bullshite

[@jenniferyagoda3901]

@@OnTropolis where were they then?

[@m0rbidm0mma]

They should fast track that to get those babies with Ms Zorn😢

[@Calipush75]

She said she's bipolar the worker ms smith did not follow up to determine if that was true. Seroquel is a downer as well as fentanyl...

[@user-zp5ii4fp3p]

If I was her I would ask if you were having a problem hearing!

[@redpillyoass5894]

An ad already at the 1 minute mark? Wow.

[@OnTropolis]

Blame KZbin. They don't even monetize 90% of my videos because of the content being "sensitive" then they throw in a bunch as soon as views start accumulating. I don't place them, I can't even control them. It's frustrating, I'm sorry if it's annoying

[@hollydennison159]

Why would she be calling a social worker "baby??"

[@godgang8818]

Please help the children so many ofbthe times parents rights are addressed more than the childrensvrights! Im dealing with children and their drug addicted parents