Juggz the Podcast Episode 6: Is Lore just made up?

Join Louise from @roguehobbies Peachy from @PeachyTips and Rob from @TheHonestWargamer every week to discuss the hottest "wargaming" news, the wierdest minis and the coolest paint jobs.
This week we are joined by / @oculusimperia
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[@OculusImperia]

Guys this was so much fun

[@danfocke]

Love the channel! More Badab please.

[@ThorMan91587]

Been a fan since you were still name dropping Buttstuff Kaiju at the end of your videos

[@Tom-lx5re]

Mate you’re the best lore channel without a doubt. So great to hear more about the man behind the magic. Thanks for all ya do x

[@walshmobile37]

What a day it must've been, just walking down the street and you get invited to come on Juggz

[@CygnusMaximusXIII]

It says a lot about this group that Rob, of all people, is the one bringing the conversation back to some semblance of coherency.

[@deltalima9640]

The bra, that keeps them together.

[@mrogface]

I commented on Suggs pro acryl video saying i couldn't get them in China. Monument hobbies replied to my message and put me in touch with a shop in Hong Kong that stocks them and I managed to pick up their last box.

[@ralphhathaway-coley5460]

Wow, that is impressive! Great to hear of a company doing the right thing for its customers.

[@ThorMan91587]

Fuck yeah

[@Steven-uk7uf]

I am always amazed at Monument Hobbies efforts on behalf of their customers. Great example to others.

[@mrogface]

Yea I was very surprised and pleased with them. I've had one bottle of pro acryl white for awhile that I got outside of China that I have been making last. Now I finally have a supplier.

[@jwitham30]

Is it weird that I think of Peachy Tips, Rogue Hobbies and the Honest Wargamer as 'The Juggz Cinematic Universe'?

[@ZendegiLeonard]

Juggz is so massive that it's gravity is pulling everyone together

[@duncan1544]

I identify with this

[@benhayward2597]

Juggz: the worlds best podcast

[@Ultr4l0f]

It also has so many tie-ins and crossovers. Rob and Val have Squarebased. And Val held a WHFB 8th ed tourney .... in MiniWargamings studio. Where Doctor Luke "Linehammer" Blaxley went. Now we just need to tie in a few more painters. Get Squidmar in here!

[@emsee0815]

JCU ❤

[@twitchyterry9495]

Suggs telling Rob hes not allowed to discuss Rangers of the bloodstone is a clear example of how difficult it is for men in this space

[@sterlingx2011]

It was another really hard week for the men in the hobby

[@Orion1234567890ET]

Suggz, you don't talk too much, you're having fun. That kind of energy is good for the vibes round the table.

[@roguehobbies]

🥹 I do talk quite a lot but only because I'm happy and excited

[@RequiemWraith]

Insider knowledge on riders. The reason for the famous 'diva' demands on them is not (in most cases at least) because they have some weird desire for that item, it's a way of checking how well the venue has taken care of things. A rider doesn't just cover things you want in your dressing room, it also covers all your equipment needs and required setup. If the artist then arrives at their dressing room and the weird, obscure demand is taken care of (say a 500ml bowl full of only yellow M&Ms) they can then relax because they can be pretty sure everything has been taken care of. If the obscure item isn't there, it's an early warning to check everything else. Have your guitar amps been put on the correct sides of the stage? Has the drum kit been set up in the correct orientation? Are the monitors routed correctly to give each member the sound mix they need? Have the lights been correctly programmed?

[@boop2908]

It was cool seeing Cooler Leutin on Juggz.

[@LcUlric]

I am 100% going to start using that

[@seayeo]

I want a "Thank you for comming on our Juggz" t-shirt. I mean, I won;t be able to wear it anywhere and my wife will demand an explanation. But still...

[@MatchaMakesThings]

They should give them out to people who appear on the show.

[@AdamPriestleyWargaming]

Young, Dumb and full of coming on my juggz

[@CreatorGatorYT]

Love this podcast. Peachy: "and the games don't last as long, so I get more games in" Perfectly said, can't wait for Robs "you're playing wargames wrong" video!

[@hooliganblack832]

One of the things I really like about this podcast is that even though you've all been in 'the hobby' for a very long time, there's clearly whole aspects of it beyond GW that you're not massively familiar with, and you're not afraid to admit it. It's cool to see folks like yourselves genuinely getting excited about things you've 'discovered' as opposed to pushing sponsored content. Also: Bloodbowl - Taylor Swift Vs Travis Kelce.

[@DazeAoS]

Louise’s “Charisma Uniqueness Nerve Talent” scale is wildly funny to me.

[@OldManRogers]

certainly 20/25/15/22 in D&D terms 🙂

[@zramirez5471]

This comment suddenly struck me with the idea that everyone should be able to make a D&D character with whatever stats they want but for any stat of a 15 plus the player has to justify to the group (ie, winning a feat of strength (str), freestyle walking challenge (dex), convincing the group of something completely fantastic that may or may not be true (char))... So much better than rolling 3D6!

[@DazeAoS]

Y’all are sweet. I’m just over here giggling at the acronym, like an imbecile.

[@sameerdodger]

Guys it's from Ru Paul's Drag Race

[@DeathrowGeoffro]

Is the acronym deliberate?

[@johnwalker6557]

"Its a dumb thing but its fun, its an exciting dumb thing" This also describes all of Warhammer. That is what I love the most about Warhammer. The model that got me into the hobby was the Defiler. Giant scuttling crab tank thing. So dumb, so fun.

[@AsgeirrSpjuth]

I always wanted to use the defiler body and cannon as the turret for a leman russ or something...

[@ZendegiLeonard]

This podcast is so damn fun. It's got "painting an army together at 4am the day before a tournament" vibes.

[@HistoritorJimaldus]

A Choadwaddle and Grundelstank novel - from Warhammer Crime

[@rotmirerob]

Bar none Oculus is my favorite lore person, what a delight to have him!!!

[@HistoritorJimaldus]

Great guest! I’d love to see Arbitorian and/or Mira Manga for future episodes!

[@TrebleAmp]

This is such a great cast. I love how it appears to be robs job to keep you all on track with your scittish brains! 🤣🤣

[@ashes2ashesuk]

I’m loving this podcast, it’s like lockdown with more swearing and better production values and I’m here for it

[@ghosthawks]

Meta Watch is now "Keeping up with the Kardashians" as they collect the top competitive armies and sell "must have" accessories.

[@nicholasdorich7939]

I most admire Rob when he talks about his eternal love for Episode I: The Phantom Menace.

[@evulutionofgaming]

Just loving how much fun it looks like your having together. And how genuinely excited you are to work together on things. Glad to see all this positivity in one place.

[@TheWah23]

When I heard the Occulus Imperia voice on Juggz without any warning I sat up like a dog whose owner just said "Walkies". Total geek out moment.

[@johanderyck6598]

Seems like Louise’s energy level is back up to 11!

[@deltalima9640]

"Lubers". Really like that. You lube them up really good, so they more readily receive the new minis that are comin up 👍

[@ThisIsMonkeyy]

Maybe you need to turn this into a 5 hour long podcast, because I would absolutely listen to everyone explaining in detail exactly what Frostgrave warband they are planning to play and why.

[@gsainsbury86]

Some obscure lore I learned from a Eons of Battle video last year is that Boss Nass is actually a different species to the rest of the Gungans!

[@RealJahzir]

You could create a Hobby masterclass course. Playing, Building, Painting and Lore classes 😅

[@stevebarnett-f5o]

I have missed my weekly immersion in your juggz.

[@heresyforheretics]

the best part is that Dolly Parton did star in a movie called 9 to 5 where she works in an office

[@murphy7801]

Was about to say

[@roguehobbies]

Oh my god...

[@Stovaa]

I love this podcast and everyone on it, but hearing Suggs learn about both touching cloth and riders sounding like she's eaten way too much sugar is an experience i will not forget. Never change.

[@jackkreeger6617]

This is the best podcast on the internet. Y'all are so entertaining and I genuinely look forward to every episode.

[@briochepanda]

Juggz continues its unhinged death march to prove that not only has god abandoned, and we didn't need him in the first place.

[@stevemurray1848]

Was hurting for my weekly fix of Juggz and this was the best yet. Who could have known that combining Juggz and Lube would feel so good?!

[@mirsh2541]

No idea if anyone's even gonna see this, but to answer Peachy's question why Boss Nass looks different from the other Gungans: Canonically (got carried over from Legends iirc) there are two different subspecies of Gungans, the more numerous Otolla Gungans like Jar Jar and most of the others and the Ankura Gungans like Boss Nass. They've lived separated for the longest time but eventually joined up when Otoh Gunga was founded, bringing all Gungans together and far less numerous, the founder of Otoh Gunga was an Ankura Gungan and they've maintained a presence in the council ever since. He actually has ears like all the other Gungans too, they are just tied behind his head. In reality it was probably decided during production that the leader of the Gungans should be a chonky toad guy for some reason and then someone made up the lore to explain it afterwards. 😂

[@PeachyTips]

Aha! Awesome…..ooooh and for the record we saw it and thank you for sharing 😘

[@team_rex]

I listened to this while I ate dinner, then went to the hobby desk, subscribed to @oculusimperia, and listened to him while painting a Phobos Lieutenant 🖤

[@wardruchii]

Funny that Oculus raised 'Psylocke and the English Woman in an Asian body' bit in the video, I remember that happening back at the time as I was a huge Comic book fan in the 90s, but I only just found out this week they separated the two of them again in 2018... Betsy now has her own body and is Captain Britain apparently, and Kwannon has her body back and has remained as Psylocke in the X-Men. Another amazing video.

[@jameswilson6328]

I love these pod casts, i use them all the time whilst i do my hobby (warhammer AoS) and they are GREAT! please do more :-)

[@aztecjaguar6571]

New Juggz T-Shirts: „You get kittens…?“ and „Just be kind“ and „I could have been a dickhead… dammit! I missed the opportunity“

[@gitligaming3533]

Juggz: Deep Dives, Book Reviews, Event Analysis, Shit-talking and Trade Secrets. Juggz: DD B.R.E.A.S.T.S

[@PeachyTips]

Now that’s impressive!!!

[@richardmarriott-smith9517]

Genghis Khan versus Stephen Hawkin! Never laughed so much in my life. I was crying. Peachy does it again.

[@Sammo212]

I definitely do think lore "matters" in that lore is what many of us engaged with for the first time to really care about the universe otherwise people would more than likely be more apt to jump to other systems with those same models. People do get hung up on lore, especially when it doesn't matter so much on the table (and thematically most armies don't match up to the lore imo). I could stop playing the tabletop today and I'd still engage with the 40k novels and stuff because I love that world and the characters. Dawn of War and the Blood Ravens got me into 40k back with 5th edition not the models or the rules. Some of it reminds me of when someone tells me, "I am a fan of Captain America" and then at some point in the conversation the equivalent of, "I don't care who Captain America" happens and it has me wonder what they are actually a fan of, exactly? "I love Magneto"... OK, great..."I don't think Magneto needs to look like, act like, or do any of the things Magneto does in the comics"...ok, great...so, what are you a fan of, again?

[@questery]

My fave occulus ep: the men of gold and iron. I have listened to it multiple times.

[@davetrack2950]

I did not expect Rob to praise the sexy manliness of Prince of Thieves this episode, but I’m here for it.

[@kevoreilly6557]

Great seeing Luetin!! Four people is good / nice equal balance : 50% Suggs/ 50% everyone else

[@skullfullofbats]

Love you guys, I get it's the vibe of pals all chatting and enjoying the hobby but this was a whirlwind of anxiety with talking over each other and tangents. Thanks to Rob for steering things.

[@NapGod]

The Historator is right - Thaw - muh - turdge

[@spectropoetics]

The Oculus X-Men lore is such a great deep cut. +1 for a spin-off X-Men lore channel. Summers family tree gives about 6 hours worth of content alone.

[@starslayer2438]

Never before have I laughed this much while watching a Warhammer-related video.

[@stevebarnett-f5o]

Best thing on KZbin, can't get enough Juggz.

[@DavidManser]

I love watching Juggz

[@duncan1544]

Love that you managed to get the Dawnstir shout-out in their Rob

[@RobTheWarGaymer]

Also, just to mansplane for a bit, a rider is so called because when your medieval monarch was traveling from one end of the country to the other, each night you would send a rider ahead to a local Lord to let them know the boss was coming to stay the night and that rider would have a list of instructions for what food to prepare, where the monarch would sleep and how many stables they would need.

[@jordansorcery]

You’re my favourite Juggaloz

[@IceJoust]

Shocked this isn't called Lubed Up Our Juggz to be honest

[@the_arcanum]

I did not expect jumping from M&M's in band riders to Hannah Arendt. Such a great alchemy and fascinating hosts. I just love it.

[@alexanderharvey6407]

I'm terrible for trying to always see the other side, and I think in the best-worst situation gatekeeping kind of behavior can come out of a bullying situation, or even a bad home/life situation. Maybe in 2nd grade you brought your cool Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle toy to school and Stacy grabbed it on the playground and pulled it's head off telling you "Ew, thats not a girl's toy! You're weird!" And it sticks with you. In 5th grade you're reading this cool new Star Wars book and Corey grabs it out of your hand, "What's this book, nerd? Some stupid blue guy? Lame!" He high fived his buddies while you looked for tape to fix the torn cover. You had to work to find friends, you started stocking shelves at 16 to start buying your own models and paints, and by college you had a core group that played games. And now your safe space is being invaded by the same people who bullied you. I can understand that feeling bad. Or what about someone who had all that and an abusive home life? Warhammer may have been their escape, where they went to pretend for just one game, just one more chapter, that they were anywhere else. Unfortunately a lot of people who also gatekeep are just petty and can't handle a thing going mainstream. The hobby is "selling out" by doing things that make it more popular. Those people are a problem. The first group? They have a problem, and it would be great if there was an easy fix for it. But I dont think there is.

[@christianschmidt1784]

Favorite podcast by several miles. 🤘🏻

[@tomhugues7033]

Rob don't forget about the struggling men in the hobby ;)

[@JuggzthePodcast]

I'll remember

[@RotnDot]

OMG, thanks for the Charadon Granite remark! That color was so unique, I'd give some pretty decent kidneys to get it again.

[@robrowell7866]

Loved the new episode! Great to see you talking about nonGW games too! Love me some Silver Bayonet and Frostgrave… 👍

[@Snowman_Style]

Thanks to Rob for editing the Juggz!

[@minimaher82]

Damn it! I'm supposed to be working, but yet again, I've found myself watching Juggz on the internet!

[@PaintsMinis]

It is always a joy to listen to you good folk!

[@alltat]

Clearly the correct celebrity answer for the Horus Heresy are Julius Caesar and Brutus.

[@jasontrinque]

Rob, as a joke you should just edit yourself out of a podcast to show how truly mad the conversation would seem without you grounding everything! haha you are the glue!

[@JuggzthePodcast]

Hahaha. Imagine!

[@redjuantanamo]

Jason Statham could absolutely play his character from character from snatch as a 40k Imperial citizen or an inquisitor.

[@Orion1234567890ET]

I am always surprised how young he looks, the character sounds so weary

[@aztecjaguar6571]

So looking forward to to Rob‘s 9-hour „Why you are wargaming wrong?!“ video-thesis.

[@karstedt9987]

I second this, they basically made the thumbnails for him already.

[@nilswolff5755]

You guys should really get in touch with Joe McCullough to get him on the Podcast. He has done interviews before and is a great Hobby chat.

[@cml4914]

I don't know what a Tim Tam is, but I understand being uncouth when eating biscuits.

[@khromas5392]

Peachy those Frostgrave warbands look sick! Also love this podcast! Juggz for life!

[@Teddybomb]

i like that Louise said "i dont want red M&M's" and then proceeds to not know what a rider is.

[@roguehobbies]

I am not consistent in my knowledge of things 🤣

[@baconwake8562]

I had to finish this episode before starting the new one, and I just want to say that Steve Jobs vs. Hunter S. Thompson (both specifically on LSD) is now my answer to ANY vs. question ever posed to me ever again.

[@aroncheek5092]

I'm listening while modelling, painting, building scale cars , miniatures,gundam etc

[@Moggy1k]

Thank you for the mention of Alan he will be missed.

[@RobbieB2606]

TYFCOMJ - for the acronym squad

[@Cranacti]

Peachy clearly wanting to throw hands with Pete 😉

[@TombKingTristan]

I’m so here for the psylock deep dive.

[@RobTheWarGaymer]

Brian Blessed told that story of George calling him a "Mad bastard" on Live and Kicking, a kids TV show that aired early on a Saturday morning. There were some complaints.

[@williammargerum8907]

All I want for Christmas is a muppet edition of a Juggs episode (any will do)

[@Thetasigmaalpha]

Steven Hawkins is a celebrity as he did a cameo on Star Trek the next Generation

[@Fristi13]

I´m listening to this while painting my Untamed Beasts so now i had to give their nips some extra attention lol

[@PeachyTips]

Damn straight, give that brush a good lick too

[@BecauseOfDragons]

Unhinged as only the juggz can be. Amazing episode once again

[@Winter420]

creativity uniqueness nerve and talent should be stats in a skirmish game

[@adapax77]

Can we please start a petition for the Primarch Royal Rumble? 😆 I need to see Magnus the Red with a steel chair whaling on Leman Russ and Sanguinius chokeslamming Horus through the nearest folding table 😂

[@NikButler]

See now we need Peachy and Rob to appear with much Flick !

[@ProbablyPhil]

“Don’t be a dick” is an underrated rule of life. Especially as a leadership principle. It’s a choice. if there’s ever a situation where you can either be a dick or not be a dick; don’t be a dick!

[@JonathanTaylorW]

chaos dwarfs mentioned!!!!! 👺👺👺

[@angrypantz87]

So to answer peachy about Rangers of Shadow Deep, they can be related but they aren’t really. Joe is such a great game designer and My head scape for Frostgrave is a mixture of Osgiliath with a bit of random modern tech powered by magic like street lights and the such.

[@Isabingus]

In case you aren't aware, total war warhammer has quite a few cameos of youtubers, modders and other prominent community members; ones I can list of my head are venris (sfo lead modder), indypride of milkandcookiesTW, Henry cavil, Loremaster of Sotek, Turin and a host of CA staff too. Although keep in mine they don't use there youtube/real names and try to make them sound like they belong in the old world setting (finally a use for the weird knowledge I've amassed over 8000+ hours of time I've sunk into that trilogy).

[@ctnimmo]

Fantasy match up: Big Daddy vs Giant Haystacks

[@maxeriksson6947]

Whens this episode going up in audio only on Spotify?

[@simonb7711]

Peach you need two special characters for the Maris pipers. Captain Bodger and Major Badger

[@PeachyTips]

Hahaha! ‘Cos everybody knows…..Badger loves mashed potatoes!!!

[@benpuffer7891]

Frostgrave always needs more love.

[@thirdiofa7thson]

Love Oculus and could listen to him talk all day. Great interview! #comeonourjuggz

[@nataliegoblintoes]

I always make this fullscreen, so i get more Juggz in my face.

[@warpwingminis]

Love that Peachy's Necromancers have the same colour scheme/vibe as the bad guys from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 🔥 KALIMAAAAHLove that Peachy's Necromancers have the same colour scheme/vibe as the bad guys from India and the Temple of Doom 🔥 KALIMAAAAH!

[@mattroso1210]

How does it seem like years since the last episode… I can’t get enough!!! ❤

[@Hebuspm]

Petethewargamer catching strays in every podcast god dammit

[@GarretWaldron]

I knew Louise was a Twilight fan and she admitted it at 1.38.50.