Julia Hartley-Brewer: David Starkey & Darren Grimes Met Police Investigation Scandal

In this clip from her longer #SWYSI interivew (full interview available here: • Julia Hartley-Brewer o... ), Julia Hartley-Brewer comments on the collapsed Metropolitan Police investigation into Darren Grimes for comments made on his podcast by the historian Dr. David Starkey.
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[@rv1684]

Nothing wrong with the Starkey interview. You don't like truth, don't shoot the messenger.

[@nickjung7394]

This is simply intimidation, nothing more, nothing less. With Alexa, Siri and Cortana listening all of the time, it is the thin end of a very wide wedge.

[@dontcallmeshirley4918]

What David Starkey said was factually correct, even though he used clumsy language. He was challenging the narrative that the slave trade, hideous as it was, could be accurately described as genocide. It's true that many died in the transport process, but the majority survived, which was the objective. The descendants now constitute a very significant section of American society.

[@stablefairy9437]

I cannot help wondering that if Mr Starkey was on MSM - the BBC in particular, if he would have made that statement. H was perhaps a bit more relaxed as he was being interviewed by a blogger.

[@thesaturnian4934]

The most egregious thing Starkey did was utter the truth. That is unforgivable these days!

[@richardk5246]

Biggest mistake in human history and will be the downfall of the US.

[@hitchslap8254]

"I don't agree with DS, I don't think he's a particularly nice person". It makes my skin crawl when I i hear people say this kind of thing. It's effectively saying to the "left" please don't hurt me, look I do have the correct opinions. I neither know nor care whether David Starkey is a nice person. The police are a disgrace.

[@drstrangelove4998]

I agree, the idea that David Starkey is racist is absurd, he’s been targeted by the left in order to cancel him and people cave.

[@cgawainf4785]

Yes, JHB does this a lot and it sickens me too. It is a subverted form of virtue signalling and comes across as controlled opposition.

[@CoffeeConnected]

I did notice her adding a qualifier to almost every point. I agree with every point she made, but when you try to justify your point with a moral qualifier to appease the people who have you in their sights you're showing that they've gotten to you a bit. Just make your points. Don't dilute them by trying to prove that you're a nice person to the very bad faith people who don't give a damn about how agreeable you are. They see it as if they've weakened you.

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

Yeah, that is the thing I have noticed with Julia. Much like her anti Trump stuff. She likes doing that, in effect, it is a form of being woke, as it is virtue signalling.

[@nocomment5214]

Exactly my thoughts and reaction when I heard her say that. I wish she could hear how she came across when she added that qualification.

[@alenglanistan5581]

Starkey is a historian who just relates what's happened in the past..just facts If that's unpalatable in dysfunctional Britain then that is tough.

[@greyvoice7949]

The Left wants to erase history they do not like , so naturally historians would get in the way (some actually misrepresent historical fact , but they are Lefties).

[@MrRadiorobot]

Leftism is now a fully fledged religion complete with witch hunts and public burnings at the stake.

[@peteredwards338]

David Starkey is a very nice person. All these media types have to qualify what they say to keep their jobs, sad state of affairs !

[@simontmn]

My cousin worked for him and said he was very obnoxious - of course being disagreeable should not be a criminal offence!

[@peteredwards338]

@@simontmn Like a lot of people ••••••••••••••••••••••••••• nice from a distance 😀

[@GloryCarrier22]

As with all of us, David is pleasant to those who are pleasant toward him, but you shouldn't cross him and he's not an elitist in any way; he knows his history and I'd venture to say he KNOWS people; (Me)Julie is far more unpleasant than David, especially when she goes all air-head on the subject of Trump, which she has rather dumb views on....

[@simontmn]

@@peteredwards338 LOL! :D

[@bakeredwards]

Well I guess like yourself have never met David Starkey so equally have no idea if he's a bit of a twat but he's exceptionally well read and isn't cowed by convention which is what I admire in him.

[@anndoig2459]

Political Correctness - That terrible insistence that some things must remain unsayable even if they are patently true.

[@Boudicca165]

We must keep ignoring it, Ann. It is Cowardice, masquerading as sensitivity.

[@lordbushmills3089]

This is such a fantastic show. I do hope that Andrew Neil gives you an opportunity to put it onto UKTV if you want that and if they don’t clip your wings!

[@therainbowgulag.]

Maybe it's time to become a conspiracy theorist?

[@samb2052]

Or perhaps a conspiracy factist?

[@keithdaborn5161]

That’s what they want you to do...

[@CoffeeConnected]

It grinds my gears when people use the phrase 'conspiracy theorist' as a pejorative. It implies that the idea that conspiracies exist is ludicrous. You may have a theory that there is a conspiracy. Many conspiracy theories are nonsense, but many have been proven to be correct. People do conspire against other people. You can't simply dismiss a theory with a wave of your hand as just a conspiracy theory. That's just lazy and ignorant.

[@garrylovesey6810]

@@CoffeeConnected it is just looking at events and extrapolating possibilities. There is nothing wrong with this. In fact it would be good if these theories were shared as there is wisdom in crowd intelligence. In fact, taking opinions from a large scale group and then looking at the mass consensus has proven to be quite accurate.

[@onlyme6479]

Nothing wrong with the audio as for julia I will only go so far because I don't want them treating me like David Starkey and as for David Starkey he speaks the truth and the truth sometimes hurts

[@GloryCarrier22]

David Starkey is still the best famous historian and should NEVER have apologised, as Grimes shouldn’t have EVER. Bastards are like a pack of wolves, they know they’ve destroyed you once you bow to them

[@hariseldon3786]

Just before 1920 the great Justice, Lord Moulton, wrote about “enforcing the unenforceable” and how the law should not intrude on the realm of “manners”. Lord Moulton was concerned about the State trying to mandate and then enforce "manners”. He noted that “what lies between Law and Free Choice we lose at our peril”. That there are some areas that legislation should not legislate. Pushing through a crowd is ill-mannered but not an “assault” - and could be dealt with appropriately. Something said or done that is objectionable but lawful, could be ignored or rebutted - not used as an excuse to punitively punish. There are simply too many construed grounds for action and therefore exceptionally good public policy reasons not to legislate ‘manners’; for example, the evidence is that hate speech laws do not get applied equally. Manners and 'hate speech' are in this realm where the State should not interfere but social etiquette exert its own influence.

[@cuanmccarogher4926]

Unfortunately “not a lot of people know” these subtle differences.

[@davidharvey4059]

I just don't understand how anyone can disagree with any of this, it's just common sense. If you don't agree you really aren't in favour of free speech

[@ragnardanneskjold7259]

Hard to take anyone seriously who thinks fascism is far right, as they clearly don't know basic history.

[@ericafiore1624]

Utopia, those who rule want their own utopia, as long as they can rule over all.

[@99IronDuke]

David Starkey said nothing wrong.

[@luckybag6814]

David Starkey said everything right.

[@gammakeraulophon]

Yep... Good stuff... Thanks

[@chrisparker3863]

For the love of God. Please sort your audio out!

[@tbone35453]

Julia is a republican and a social and cultural liberal. She is also quite limited when it comes to seriously thinking about the issues. David Starkey, on the other hand, is a considerable intellect and is absolutely fascinating to listen to. His level of knowledge is quite rare these days. He is clumsy with his words sometimes but the main point he was making in the Grimes interview was that slavery cannot be accurately described as a genocide because the intention was that the slaves would survive in order that they could work. I miss Starkey and he contributes far more to the political debate than Hartley-Brewer, who is actually quite lightweight and shallow.

[@SAHBfan]

Only sound from the left channel and that is a bit muffled :(

[@victorsilvester78]

I have grown to really appreciate Julia.

[@AnnabelleJARankin]

Key thing she brought up imo is that it's better that we know people's views - censorship just drives dissent underground where it festers and worsens.

[@timbrooks2763]

Greed of a few is the problem, find them and lock them away

[@ragnardanneskjold7259]

Right, that's called socialism. Bravo.

[@timbrooks2763]

@@ragnardanneskjold7259 No its called removing a corrupt person in charge of decisions that affect the community , Gangsters have taken control of high parts of society ! they must be removed !! culled !!

[@ragnardanneskjold7259]

@@timbrooks2763 That's different than what your first comment suggests (to me). I do however agree that many corrupted elements of our govt need to be removed.

[@RexOrwell]

0:51 _"I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but..."_ Awww. Imagine being at that level.

[@johnreid9959]

Yes it's just saying once in a white they're true

[@jasonhannon4735]

What ever level that is it's still at a higher level than you you offal felater

[@RexOrwell]

@@jasonhannon4735 It was me that liked your comment by the way. Peter Whittle's No1 groupie here.

[@gabrielleheard6366]

Lot of conspiracies seem to becoming true 🤔

[@cuanmccarogher4926]

Too much twaddle.

[@lalwkl]

Didn't Grimes bottle it and throw Starkey under the bus?

[@jamesrogers5277]

Danny Yes!

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

Yep.

[@ljdasilva3139]

"The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed, would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper--the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it.” George Orwell 1984 - It’s a cruel world.

[@michaelporter2574]

The curse of KZbin strikes again - abysmal and unlistenable sound. Are they doing it on purpose......?

[@toffeecrisp2146]

Its this show in particular, they seem to have really awful sound setup.

[@paulukjames7799]

Yes it seems so like a lot of people on you tube who do not follow the PC line have trouble with corporations a lot more than normal everything is connected .

[@loremasterlizard2839]

What are the Conservatives conserving?

[@paulukjames7799]

Absolutely nothing

[@anthonymills7182]

Very good interview. Love this lady speaks common sense.

[@jamesbryant8133]

So a journo got called far right and she thinks she's like us. Sorry love but you were in the crowd when it was us getting called out. Should have been doing this years ago. Wheres here view on Alex Jones?

[@jackpatplod174]

Second time I have had no sound on this channel! Not saying it’s a conspiracy or anything....

[@williamclutterbuck6383]

Peter has a minute fraction of the resources of the BBC to produce his videos and does a thousand times better job in broadcasting TRUTH......I understand everything he transmits [ even through one earplug at times ]......you're making a fuss over nothing mate...New Culture Forum needs encouragement, not petty criticism.....He's doing a fine job on a relative shoestring

[@crambosk]

Great interview, can you do something about the audio though. Can only ever hear out of one ear when using headphones!

[@conorcorrigan765]

My left ear enjoyed this thoroughly.

[@nickhickson8738]

Oh God, the audio is terrible.

[@johnthain1183]

what audio? I can't hear a thing!!!

[@s43v3]

Audio muffled cant make out a single word

[@benv5798]

If you can't hear the audio turn your phone upside down.

[@loremasterlizard2839]

@The New Culture Forum Channel - The interviewers audio is a little low.

[@lydiamalone1859]

Grimes made a HUGE mistake apologizing right away. Hasn't he been paying attention to how this works? If you apologize you are admitting guilt and they come after you even more. The rules of decency and civility are out the window. When he apologized right away, I unsubscribed from his podcast. people will think that is horrible but I've seen this far too many times as it is. When it comes to totalitarians, never apologize. Never defend yourself. That is simply how it has to be. In fact, it's time to respond by calling them what they are. Totalitarians. People need to stop rolling over and being doormats. Grimes has a platform and there was a lot of pushback on what was done to him. But what about the average guy that doesn't have that? Grimes sold them out.

[@Martin-oz6lr]

I'm not a conspiracy theorist? So your not one of us sensible people then are you 😡

[@peterjames7254]

I suppose it all depends on which conspiracy theory we favour

[@cuanmccarogher4926]

Chuckle

[@anthonytaylor9232]

Volume levels too low. Crank it up, please and let we the 'listening /viewing ' followers, adjust the output to our personal preferences. IMPORTANT for those with hearing problems ! Peace.

[@lionsandtigersstore8814]

Hi SWYSI can you please turn the volume up on the final output video as my volume is full power with SWYSI . My other subscription videos are louder btw , thanks!

[@lewis123417]

Be so nice for this channel to put their money where their mouth is and invite David starkey back onto the show

[@chrisruss9861]

I like Starkey. The rubbish he probably put up with from younger days has made him feisty. He is much more likable than some of his snooty and snivelling critics who never knew hard times.

[@grahamgh9173]

we all need to stand up for our value's! free speech, freedom of movement within the UK borders! and democratic right to vote! freedom is all !!

[@terryward4162]

I don't want to live in the UK anymore.. its getting me down.. completely f up

[@straighttalking2090]

Think you may have a SOUND PROBLEM. I'm not receiving your right channel on this video (my channels are both working properly).

[@mickp222]

Get rid of the College of policing, The police should be controlled by the people, in a democratic way.

[@reinadegrillos]

Where is the link on the David Starkey words?

[@annedromeda9857]

Why does JHB start this interview by stating that David Starkey is not a nice person? What does what she thinks about his personality have to do with anything.

[@martinbairstow8706]

david starkey got hung out one of the best historians the countries ever had

[@harryrobertson3746]

Julia, if you're an Alt-Right Fascist/Racist etc, then (as a member of the Free Speech Union, a believer in democracy, and a great believer in tolerance) so am I . . . . .

[@Amber-gz3hw]

It's not about whether you (Julia) think David Starkey in a particularly nice person or not. That comment was unnecessary.

[@maudegonne3740]

I LOVE Peter Whittle's style. He's unique. But when is he going to surrender the fact that we are living in a "Conspiracy "and that the tin hatters were right all along? And when is Julia going to wake up come to that?.

[@stewgreenuk]

There's no audio, after the theme music it's silent

[@catherinesummers5057]

I personally am offended by all the smutty innuendo on breakfast telly and all the casual profanity bandied around. What about hauling all that up for questioning????

[@vacuumfireradio253]

Julia - please consider standing for Parliament - you'd be a bulwark against the left and a powerful voice for the mainstream and moderate.

[@paulmk2290]

I agree with the Hartley-Brewer girl on many things, but she and others are totally wrong to say that people are surrendering their hard-won freedoms over the covid rules. During the world wars, and other wars, men from Great Britain went off and sacrificed their lives and present existence for a hoped-for better future for themselves, their families and their country. It is exactly the same with covid: people are are putting their lives on-hold for the benefit of others. This is sacrifice, just as it has been in the past. Hartley-Brewer, says she loved the way that the country came together, but it is the rhetoric of people like her that is pulling the country apart. As far I can see, the government is steering the best course it can while many loud voices are assuming an authority and understanding that they don't really possess. Yes, this has been unbearably tough for some, just as it was in 1939-45, but in WWII they carried on anyway. Then they won.

[@carr60ick]

With the evidence around us how can one not be a conspiracy theorist...what will it take?

[@gerrylowrey1235]

I can never hear your voice you need to do something about the sound

[@utv5490]

Where is Nurse Ratchet when you need her?

[@ebzZzZ]

Alexa. Siri, and Cortana will finally get through out the window

[@philbobaggins1]

Sort your sound out Peter ... for gods sake, how many more times do I need to highlight it!

[@charlybeagrie1119]

Are there not enough murders, burglaries and rapes for the police to investigate? Is there too little knife crime in London?

[@paulukjames7799]

You might not agree with Starkey but Julia Hartley-Brewer starts to itemise all the irrelevant views why say anything I think you feel you have to justify so many things of others opinions to fit in slightly, he said one thing which would be better unsaid Damn has been said by lots of older people meaning lots like the use terribly nice when they do not mean terrible just very , is this where we are now.

[@johnhorn6807]

I am a great fan of both mr. Starkey and Daren Grimes. They have been vilified most unnecessarily and inappropriately. Mr. Starkey’s books are excellent and well worth reading. Anyone who has taken exception to what was said is just a stupid bigot. Not perhaps the most diplomatic of expressions but something anyone might say off the cuff in a lively discussion.

[@rumples2698]

single " EYE " in lots of adverts

[@andynewton604]

Free speech!!??

[@nw8000]

She is amazing! Look at the size of her chest!!

[@robfrancis7561]

Daren was used by the Met to send a message of intimidation to us all. Maoist times.

[@DSTH323]

Audio deplorable

[@howardevans7384]

Are the Police acting Ultra Vires in these matters of policing ideas and thoughts and if so why are they not being brought to account - is it a matter of politicians being afraid to debate these issues lest they also come under scrutiny and branded as outside acceptability?

[@markcandlin6421]

No right audio again.....

[@kristiblack4789]

Sound is being censored by FUTUBES!

[@whitefields5595]

Julia, you just lost my support. Do not try and garner support from the Left by saying you don't like Starkey.

[@tomsuibney9093]

Hate & therefore hate speech ....are they banning hate ...really 😁

[@brianlopez8855]

oh dear sort your microphones out !

[@themandy6603]

Trying to look concerned now is laughable. You should’ve stood by Tommy Robinson whether you agreed or not & because you didn’t... here we are!

[@swingsandroundabouts6138]

I don't see the use of Julia Buntley Bentley Fahquois, more toffs grifting off their lessers diaspora

[@waynemcauliffe2362]

What`s the story with the hyphenated names? When did they come about?

[@cuanmccarogher4926]

Good question.

[@waynemcauliffe2362]

@@cuanmccarogher4926 Must want to stand out or something

[@johnathanball3344]

Get a person microphone

[@TheJimtodd]

DAVID STARKEY FOR KING,, LONG LIVE KING DAVID

[@peterhatfield5632]

Justice Louis D. Brandeis most memorably captured the essence of the counter-speech doctrine in his concurring opinion in Whitney v. California (1927). He wrote: If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence.

[@cuanmccarogher4926]

Silly looking boot . She is very full of herself, but is a moral lightweight guilty of the b/s she accuses the left of. Plays the old school county card safely from the side lines.

[@boerboelmummy5075]

Ugh, that LARPing hypocrite JHB, no thanks. Also: fix your damn sound.