Julia Rawson and the Apartment of Horrors

[@ThatChapter]

Thanks for being here everyone! As always your support is amazing, and I don't think I'll ever be able to thank you enough and tell you what it means to me

[@atscapegoat]

[@mimisikujui5514]

Nakupenda.

[@Smurdner05]

Please kick my tires, will ya?

[@megatherion2695]

Doing a video about Ward Weaver III would be sufficient

[@manuxx3543]

Any link for the uk haunted location database ? Looks fun You cant just put that in the video with no sources lol

[@Rizzle_foshizzle]

Hey Mike, I heard your voice coming from my Mum’s room one evening while she was visiting me. I stopped and asked “Are you watching That Chapter!?”. She’s 74 years old and loves your channel. I had no idea, I’ve been a fan for years and so glad my Mum is too! Thanks Mike, your videos cater for all generations!

[@infoskrimp420]

lol love this. my mom loves true crime too maybe ill try to get her on youtube.

[@mat6386]

I was dropping my son off at my parents one day, they're 67, when I walked in both my parents were sitting on their couch watching That Chapter on the tv. Such a surprise. It truly does cater to all.

[@nhmooytis7058]

I’m a 70 year old lady and I love this channel! First vids I click on.

[@maryannanderson2213]

I just turned 75 and I am a HUGE fan of all true crime and I especially like That Chapter. I love the bits of humor Mike throws in and I especially like it when the crime happened on the THIRD or Twenty-THIRD because we all know Mike does not say Third! Keep grinding 'em out, Mike. All of your fans (even us old ones) will keep watching.

[@jumpingman6612]

Great! Such a shame that alot of elderly ppl are afraid or can't start using the internet by themselves..

[@houseofbammy1481]

I'm a firm believer that if you dismember a person then it should be a whole life order. There is absolutely no possibility for rehabilitation for anyone capable of doing that

[@costascostas1760]

Yeah. A different level of inhumanity

[@inwardk]

Yes I agree.

[@yunglynda1326]

this tbh

[@askinarslanbostan]

100%

[@TheRationalist.]

True. There is a certain type of savagery that goes into chopping someone up like a butcher. Either death or life in prison.

[@agonymouse4864]

I'm SO tired of the 'anxiety/depression, on the autism spectrum' defence being used successfully in court! I suffer from 2 of the 3, and my ex suffers from all 3, with PTSD on top of it all, and neither of us have ever contemplated killing ANYTHING, not even a spider on the wall. This argument is an insult to others who suffer with these issues and do no wrong to anyone.

[@staceysmith8292]

I KNOW, RIGHT?! Ughh it pisses me off so much! I have ADHD & Panic Disorder. I obviously have certain behaviours that are caused by them but murdering someone? Hard NO

[@staceysmith8292]

Oh and went thru severe depression.. I wanted myself to die, not anyone else lol

[@agonymouse4864]

@@staceysmith8292 haha! GOOD point friend!! You're exactly right. Who can be bothered hurting others when you're solely focused on hurting yourself!?!

[@itsruckaswife7036]

@@staceysmith8292 loads of people have been through depression.. yours is no more "severe" than anyone elses... I'm guessing you were unable to work, but still able to claim benefits and spend them

[@jacintagordon2537]

@@itsruckaswife7036 she didnt say hers was worse than anyone elses. What a cow you are lol.

[@1killeragogo]

Ju was my best friend. I for obvious reasons can't watch this episode but knowing how respectful you are with each case you cover I can thank you for treating Ju's murder with the dignity she deserves. Thank you Mike.

[@paulwoodford1984]

She looked much younger than 42. i thought she was in her 20’s from her pics. was she really your best friend?

[@DeeDerry]

@@paulwoodford1984 She really did look much younger...She didn't deserve this...Hope all her friends and family are doing as well as can be...So heartbreaking 💔

[@lalaj5831]

So sorry for your loss.

[@yunglynda1326]

so sorry for your loss💔 it seems like she was an incredibly vibrant and special person☀️ i hope you and all her loved ones can find peace and healing after this tragedy🙏🏾be blessed

[@schrisdellopoulos9244]

You're a random person on the internet. Why should we believe you?

[@karaamundson3964]

I'd just like to weigh in and say that 1) I am on the spectrum 2) I've been depressive all my life 3) aaaand I have heard random voices and music all my life as well. None of this has caused me to commit acts of disgusting violence...it just ain't in me! Those are cheapass excuses in a courtroom for crimes like this.

[@sciencenate]

Don’t go burning your excuses before they’re needed!

[@KingFoopa]

🚩

[@MrsStormtrooper]

Same, and just so you know: the hallucinations we can possibly experience are a product of stress and depression herself. Went away for me once I started taking meds

[@AnnCooper33]

ABSOLUTELY

[@starlight-tour777]

You're on the spectrum now Mike Anthony Fosturd from Rockford... okay 🤡 😂😂

[@lucyallen9123]

I requested you cover this story a while back, i live 5 minutes away from the bottle and cork, and used to work at the club owned by the same landlord months before. Disgusting what happens in local areas. Thanks Mike, you are the best at this.

[@BunnyLang]

Wow!

[@Saint_Sigismund]

Crazy crimes can happen anywhere. A couple years ago some gangs in my area got into a month-long arson-fight. Burned down 3 houses by the end of it.

[@amazingsupergirl7125]

WoW this is infuriating. I’m a very social person like this. These days I just strike up conversations with women, not men. I just wanna talk not get tortured and murdered. ❤️🤟🏻🎈

[@Silent_Shadow]

@@amazingsupergirl7125 yeah because women never commit sick crimes. Be smart about where you are and who you're with. Just use your head, not live in fear.

[@2006imari]

Yeah, I’m from Connecticut . One woman was murdered and stuffed into a wall . 😣

[@Tsathogguah]

Murder a random stranger and you might be out in 19 years. Unbelievable.

[@b.t.356]

What I really love about Mike is how he tells the story in a way that is respectful to the victims/survivors, whilst also incorporating humor to show how he really feels towards the monsters of the world

[@itsMrNoble]

@@millardf452 No, that isn’t quite what he said.

[@kayleemariee239]

@@millardf452 The point clearly went right over your head.

[@WadesWorldd]

@@millardf452 Dude reading comprehension isn't your strong suite is it. He literally said Mike shows respect to the families! Not he thinks the monsters are funny. He is saying Mike spreads light and some humor to keep things light for his viewers. This does not mean he thinks the murderers/monsters are funny.

[@heavenbertram]

@@millardf452 Why are you here, Karen? Do you only know how to read anything in an offensive manner? I feel like you are the type of person to take things out of context, JUST to have a reason to be a Karen. I think it was VERY clear, at least to everyone other than you, that the comment was the exact opposite of how you interpreted it. Move along.

[@New_Wave_Nancy]

Yes, his humor never punches down. It always pokes fun at the villains.

[@HeliRy]

Never, EVER go home with a total stranger you just met at the bar. Doesn’t matter if your a guy or a gal, or which way your compass swings… just don’t do it. Best case scenario, you have totally forgettable sex with someone you wouldn’t look at twice if you were sober. Worst case… we see you here on a future episode.

[@wendybutler1681]

And you could just possibly end up coparenting with them for a couple decades. Would you want them as the other parent of your child?

[@lissi6931]

Yes!! Thank you! 👏🙈

[@buttercxpdraws8101]

Don’t treat getting drunk in public as a form of recreation in the first place. (Edit: that came off as harsh and victim blaming which I didn’t intend. I just think that alcohol is a really dangerous drug. It isn’t just the negative impact which it has on your health directly, but it’s also the way it encourages you to let your guard down and be too friendly and trusting. Rest In Peace Julia, you seemed like a really lovely person, this should never have happened to you and those two men are entirely responsible for this tragedy ✌️💕)

[@n-as1012]

she clearly wasn't looking for sex.

[@samking2094]

@@buttercxpdraws8101 Not wanting to victim blame either, but in the video footage she does appear to be quite intoxicated as she walks over to her killer and proceeds to unzip his top and put her hands on him... Obviously doesn't warrant her being killed, but with hindsight it wasn't a good move... What That Chapter and so many other True Crime channels tells us is that are a ridiculous number of evil/crazy people who are capable of murder around. Getting drunk and going to a strangers house just seems too risky these days, I guess it's always been risky but with the advent of KZbin we're now more wary of just how many nutters surround us. RIP Julia Rawson.

[@jayread8634]

Scary thing is, if he didn’t show his tattoos he may have gotten away w/ it. Never would have thought of him… that’s terrifying

[@DaveSCameron]

Maybe yes but thankfully not!

[@sweeneytodd011]

the positioning of that lamp a was perfect bit of luck for the killer, thank god he was a moron although if he wasn't such an idiot he may have held back on killing her as it was obvious he'd be caught.

[@mamiemonrovia7654]

yeah, i too caught that right away thinking of what an odd shot it was. 8:47

[@Mike--Oxmall]

No he wouldn't there are camera outside the pub as well and down the street, he would have been recognised by someone.

[@amos5557]

jay church my video

[@antjobert]

She took the wrong bus and it changed her life forever. Imagine how many times we've each made a small mistake or decision that saved us from something horrible and we have no idea about it.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Tony Todd did a speech on it in Final Destination. Left a store recently, because I was waiting for scratchers, then the guy took these other people first. They were going to f around with welfare cards, and they neved have any money on the effing things, so I left. I got 120.00 buying them elsewhere.

[@richardjames1402]

I was just listening to a story of a girl who fell off a roller coaster. They decided to ride that one last at the end of the day because you get wet. So I was just thinking, if only she had gone on the coaster earlier! Just a tiny decision, and ended her life 😔

[@B3Band]

She did a little more than take the wrong bus lol Did you miss the part where she was throwing herself on any guy that would look at her? That could put you in danger no matter which bus you take. Don't act like this could happen to anyone.

[@yveltalsea]

@@B3Band not sure if you realize how drunk she was or... does that excuse murder? xd

[@rustyhowe3907]

@@B3Band Nailed it!👌

[@bjbrown6884]

I warned my mother, she lives next door, when my father died last November to be more careful about her interacting with other people and to not share too much information. She is always 'kidding' and somewhat gregarious because she likes people. She told the garbage collectors that since her husband died she needs to get rid of tools and if they knew anyone and here is the phone number. About a month later one of the men called and said, "I see the way you look at me and I would like to come over," my mother is nearly 86 years! I reminded her about my warning and how she needed to be careful. I think she is now paying attention. I hope.

[@nickyblue4866]

Damn... I just wanted to have a cup of tea with your ma' altho she was giving me those "come hither" eyes.

[@jessehenderson2967]

Its so disgusting to me that a woman being friendly can easily lead to horrible things.

[@xXxAngelicKratosxXx]

That is a disgusting way to talk to anyone, let alone an elderly woman! I am wired like your mama, and I too have learned the hard way not to give out “too” much info. Wishin’ the best for you and your family, and my condolences about your late father; I hope he was a good man! 💚

[@juliecrane9647]

God love ya !!! My mom was too trusting too but her last 2 yrs my nephew lived with her. But she could smell a phone scam miles away.

[@paulwoodford1984]

Why would any man want to date a 86 year old lol. She must be very popular around her town 😉

[@jeanaerowley7150]

It blows my mind how a person could get on a wrong train and maybe meet the love of their lives, a best friend, a job opportunity….or a serial killer. It’s so random and terrifying 🥺💔

[@Movetheproduct]

Why

[@TheAmishRifle]

@@Movetheproduct why…what? They’re saying how crazy it is that you could encounter such a wide array of people who you probably wouldn’t have met if you hadn’t gotten on the wrong bus/train.

[@Movetheproduct]

@@TheAmishRifle why is that crazy

[@CovidConQuitTheCensorship]

Have you seen the movie 'Sliding Doors'? Stars Gwyneth Paltrow and John Hannah. I'm sure you would have. Brilliant film where they show a different future if she makes it on her train or misses it and has to catch the next one. One of my favourite films

[@logan4215]

Funny how straight people never have these problems.

[@MsSwitchblade13]

It's easy for people to forget that there doesn't have to be an extensive storyline or series of events that can lead to their horrific demise at the hands of another human. It can be as simple as this story, a chance encounter with a sociopath at the pub after taking the wrong bus. Whatever the intention you have does not always equal that of a stranger. Better to say goodnight and make it home safe. Poor Julia, I can only imagine how frightened she was. I'm glad this sack of shit was caught.

[@Saint_Sigismund]

"Though I walk through the shadow of the valley of Death I shall fear no evil, for John Moses Browning is at my side."

[@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934]

Sometimes it’s a simple twist of fate

[@Bonsoirmonamie]

That’s why I have a weapon on me always. No gun (not legal for me where I live) but a knife or a club of some kind. I don’t walk around brandishing weapons and hoping for fights I flee whenever possible (so far it’s always been possible) but stuff like this always makes me consider the possibility.

[@karenamyx2205]

Well.. yeah. Do people think that? I guess it is easy to feel like youre the main character of a story, since you kinda are in your own brain, I guess. But ya don't need 3 act structure to meet your end!

[@helgenlane]

Didn't your mama tell you not to talk to strangers? Especially drunk, alone and at night.

[@itsamandaabb]

The BEST true crime channel! No one can tell the stories like Mike does !! I love ya Mike and thank you for sharing these stories with us ! 💕💕 Love from Canada 🇨🇦

[@beth-bi9yv]

The randomness of this attack is so terrifying. So sorry for Julia and her girlfriend.

[@amos5557]

beth you need my video it’s for you

[@tigerlily8117]

@@amos5557 Judging by your profile pic and account comments I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume this is religious propaganda. You can't pray away a predator in a bar, and if it's a lifestyle argument; people have been going out drinking and dancing since biblical times. Christianity is not the answer to everything.🙄

[@itsruckaswife7036]

It wasn't random - she went home with a stranger at a bar! She was all over people she didn't know! It's not like a guy jumped out a bush and dragged her down an alleyway...you're much less likely to be murdered if you're not a slag

[@assmane999]

@@itsruckaswife7036 don’t blame the victim, please. She didn’t deserve this. She stumbled into the den of a monster.

[@amos5557]

@Tigerlily81 i didn’t say anything about drinking or dancing but you can pray to the LORD for Him to take a predator away from you, the bible says the effective fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. and God says “call to Me in the day of trouble, I will deliver you and you shall glorify Me.” and in james 5 it says that elijah was a man like us and he prayed to God that it would it rain, and it didn’t rain for three years and six months. And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit. and that’s one of the worst excuses i ever heard to sin, imagine a murderer telling a judge “but people have been murdering for years! so it’s okay that i did it” that’s foolishness. and dancing and drinking is not evil, but dancing in an evil way and for an evil reason is sin. and drinking to get drunk is sin because 1 corinthians 6 says “do you not know that the unrighteousness shall not inherit the kingdom of God? be not deceived, drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of God.”

[@LifesPeachy321]

*People like that shouldn't have the possibility of ever getting out...they would do it again, and don't let age fool you.* *Age does not make a person less evil!*

[@ninaappelt9001]

Sadly they almost always get out in GB.

[@melissagreen_]

Exactly, he won't be that old when he gets out, if he's only 30, then he will be 60 and there are numerous serial killers over 60, right up to 80 year olds! They don't change until they are 6 feet under.

[@taofist]

Ehh...not really true, jo blo...depends on the age and a few other factors.

[@kenosabi]

Spoken like someone with zero interaction with the legal system or how anything actually works 😆

[@crystalrosas6052]

​@@kenosabi yea I'm sure u have plenty experience with the legal system

[@Miss_Wonderful1]

Poor Julia. As dangerous as it is tallking to strangers, especially when in a very vulnerable state, who could imagine the person they're talking to is such a deranged monster!

[@DaveSCameron]

Indeed just incredibly sad!

[@Schinzo__]

She has nobody to blame but herself

[@martinamoskale2445]

@@Schinzo__ The murderer is to blame for the murder!

[@vivaldagriffin657]

When you're feeling down and out and nobody has said that they love you.. Mike always says that he loves you.. thanks Mike ,you don't know what a difference you make in some people's lives.❣️

[@PainElemental]

mike?

[@barbarafaulder9087]

And take care of yourself.

[@IndigoRoses7]

Always, always be careful who you strike up a conversation with in public settings, pubs and bars. Men and women, be careful!! Such a sad story

[@unmemorablehero]

I’d say, striking up a conversation is usually okay, but going to a strangers place is almost ALWAYS a bad idea…especially if you’ve been drinking.

[@alrightyru]

I don't know the whole story but buddy in Banff went to the bar, went to the can and got stabbed in there and died! Crazy! RIP young man 🙏

[@susugamushi]

Yeah look how she assaulted him, wtf? Looked so weird on camera, very intoxicated vibes

[@chickenlittle5095]

Nah. I will chat to pretty much anyone. What you don’t do is give away too much about yourself or where you live. Most people are well meaning but be aware of the bad.

[@hollycosta7394]

Oh yeah I’ve def started convos with strange people….but I’m from Florida

[@poesgirlraven9309]

I’m so sick of people using mental illness as a defense. I have severe Bipolar 1, PTSD & OCD. I’d never EVER even consider doing such a thing. Most of us would not. It may be a contributing factor but ultimately it’s in their core to be evil.

[@ilsamiller8291]

💯 I have multiple severe mental illnesses as do my clients in my work. Neither I nor they would ever think of taking a life; even self defense would be difficult for me and those I know. We have a major shortage of mental health providers and interventions for mental health. But there’s no excuse for murder

[@tetherball34]

THANK YOU!!!

[@glxssy8037]

Same with Bipolar 1, major depressive disorder and severe generalized anxiety

[@ChristionGirl45]

I mean yes mental illness can cause many issues, I would know as I also problems with mental issues, but I am also tired of people trying to use it as a "get out of jail free" card! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@wildgr33n]

right.........i'm autistic and super into true crime/horror/thriller stuff and definitely would not murder and dismember someone x.x shit defense.

[@kendradenise2336]

Amazing to watch how far your channel has come ! Keep up the great work !

[@ThatChapter]

Thanks Kendra!!

[@flynick]

Why not give something a little more controversial a goo? You're very careful not to upset the guardians of information...who commits the most crime? Lots of good new material out there big dog...no don't do that, I like your content and don't want it to end up demonized..*(demonetized) you tube doesn't like that word..

[@flanemoji111]

@@flynick What?

[@rossgriffin5703]

AND 3 MILLION IN THE BANK TOO.

[@flynick]

@@flanemoji111 why?

[@therealEXMO]

You can tell his partner was nervous coughing you can tell their faces couldn't hide it at all

[@Gundamsmasher]

As someone who met Julia more than once at her little stall I can clarify what a lovely soul she was

[@julieannemillspaugh1796]

I’m so sorry that this happened to such a wonderful, joyful light in this world and there are no words. ♥️

[@danceyrselfkleen]

I will never understand why people lie on the internet like this

[@isabellind1292]

@@danceyrselfkleen Why? Because people who've ever had a personal connection to anything can't ever comment? Good luck telling anyone who you don't personally know who ever relates a connection to any given event/story that they're liars!

[@micheleshively8557]

So sorry for her. Glad you got to know such a great lady

[@Autumnpearly]

@@danceyrselfkleen I’ll never understand why people like you say this stuff on comments where the people didn’t even say anything crazy except they were a lovely person. It’s not like they said some unbelievable story 🤨

[@marthasalter405]

Glad you are doing some UK and Ireland cases, makes us feel not QUITE so crazed here in the USA

[@tillymynt9054]

🤣🤣🤣these nutters are everywhere.

[@michaeltwowolves3055]

These are also the ones we don’t hear much about so for me it’s twice as interesting!

[@gordonramsdale]

@@tillymynt9054 there are nutters everywhere, but most places they can’t buy assault rifles from Walmart

[@bovinityleak2066]

After all these true crime stories I am amazed that all the dumb, naïve decisions I made in the past didnt lead to my mutilated corpse being found in a shallow grave by hikers

[@kimmoran4437]

Or dog walkers!

[@thepartysjustbegun5557]

Same, what a blessing we're alive to appreciate how stupid we were.

[@capybara6810]

Yep.. I was very lucky regarding some past poor decisions.

[@_Kuma_]

I’m glad it didn’t happen!

[@sluttymctits4496]

I think this exact thing all the time. Many of the decisions/mistakes these victims made, I've made myself, multiple times. My saving grace is that I've always been fortunate enough to have good people around me to keep an eye out for when I get too crazy. Even new acquaintances have looked out for me, as well as good samaritan strangers. I truly am thankful that nothing even remotely this horrible has come my way. I'm so glad I've changed my ways, because good luck doesn't last forever.

[@emmahilliard7659]

Thanks for your videos, they are so well done and put together. My husband died a year ago and now at 47 I find myself a widow but your videos have helped me alot with getting through the grief and depression. So again thank you for doing what you do. I will watch you until you stop putting videos together! ❤️ 💙 💜 🤗

[@Samanthamoemoes]

I am sorry for your loss, hopefully life is getting a little easier 🙏

[@gleefulme9617]

Autism & depression have zero to do with being a murderer.

[@gz6963]

People with autism aren't more dangerous than anyone else. Disgusting that he would try to deflect the blame of his evil actions

[@benjaminjais6028]

Yea, plenty of normal people are murderers too.

[@rsukut5866]

I have both, and bawled like a baby when I accidentally ran over a squirrel that ran out in front of my car. Can't imagine doing something awful to another human being!

[@misscleo378]

Don’t take it personally. Being autistic and depressed doesn’t also make you a sociopath/psychopath. I read a study years ago about serial killers and many of them would be considered on the spectrum by today’s standards. But autism doesn’t make a person inherently evil, with no self control.

[@prodigalbrock]

Those CAN be things that attribute. They aren't prerequisites though. A lot of mass shooters are EXTREMELY depressed clinically.

[@anne-mariecoetzee2469]

I am 65yrs and love Mike..Sharing to all I know to watch That Chapter .

[@teresathayn5170]

It's just not safe to go off alone with someone you'd just met. She didn't deserve this, probably just looking for a new friend. RIP Julia.

[@elizabethcampbell907]

Poor girl was drunk and wasn’t thinking.

[@pm2886]

@@elizabethcampbell907 That's the problem.

[@geraldbarreno535]

"New friends"no she just wanted have sex with anyone..u don't go stranger house for cap of tea front a bar.

[@noname-jh3bd]

I think she was a little too shit-faced

[@TheHikeChoseMe]

@@elizabethcampbell907 i dunno. i can still think when i'm drunk.

[@forevermetal2464]

The saying of, "Never talk to strangers" growing up, applies to adults as well!! We live in a very cold uncaring society and the decisions people make, "To Kill or Not to Kill," it's extremely disturbing. Poor Julia who was a beautiful soul and kind hearted unfortunately caused her life to be cut short by these sick individuals playing out their sick fantasies. Julia Sweet Angel Rest In Paradise. I pray you got your Justice. 😓

[@OberynTheRedViper]

You are far, far, far more likely to be harmed by someone you know than a stranger.

[@forevermetal2464]

@@OberynTheRedViper SAD but TRUE!! Your point is totally VALID! Stay Safe. Stay Healthy. ☮️💜🤘

[@baronvonshekel7323]

If i'm not talking to strangers online or in clubs/bars, how am i supposed to find people to have unprotected sex with? I'm a woman,i have needs and have to enjoy myself

[@forevermetal2464]

@@baronvonshekel7323 Well, BE CAREFUL Sista!! ☮️💜🤘

[@barbarafaulder9087]

Getting involved with someone you know nothing about is very dangerous. Very naïve behavior. To trusting is dangerous. Rest In Peace sweet soul.

[@derekstocker6661]

Thirty years inside for Maynard-Ellis, unusually long sentence for British justice, still not long enough for what this dear lady suffered at their hands.

[@user-bj3jn1sq7y]

I’m actually confused as to why he denied everything and then a year later admitted it.

[@rodluv21]

*Tirty

[@nealkelly9757]

British injustice system

[@dixonbidenzmouth4115]

Brit "justice" is a joke

[@foxxy46213]

@@dixonbidenzmouth4115 it's why most seek there own justice. Unless you NEED a crime number for something.

[@sidtheartist1]

Been watching for over 2 years now doesn't feel that long but the foot traffic has gotten big here, love to see the many people loving your content and all the horrors you have to gather information on and relay. I pray for every victims family's in all these videos, it's so sad what reality is for some. I pray for you too mike, for having to read so many horrific stories. You are an amazing guy.

[@DarkCaseDocumentaries]

Agreed 🙏

[@Invading-Specious]

monkey see ,monkey do.

[@SoY_7]

Woot amen 🙏 🙌

[@Djhawt]

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[@cateatfood6634]

Bot? Wtf, your comment starts of exactly thr same as another's who's directly beneath your comment.

[@keithdevlin1]

*When going to the home of a potential new partner it's always advisable to do a quick check of the contents of their library, fridge, and bathroom cabinet, while also ensuring that there are no stuffed animals nailed to walls or random dolls heads lying around a work bench with tools.*

[@bubblegumbruxa8183]

their pc is a good thing to check too lol

[@noakesy316]

Speaking from experience there Keith? 😂

[@nickyblue4866]

Check the toilet

[@kingpeasant5099]

You also want to make sure they use proper pronouns!

[@jazztheglass6139]

When I worked for Camden Council housing department in the 80's. Doing house visits I could usually tell the drug dealers. They had machetes by the front door or by the side of the couch

[@DeidreL9]

This channel is amazing. And your dry humour is sooooo appreciated. You remind me of my best friend’s husband, he’s quiet then he’ll say something like your “you can smell him shxtting himself from here” and it’s brilliant. Omg this story. These men. Just. Speechless.😬

[@MarieKnox10]

I’m from Quebec Canada and I try to make all my friends watch your channel! Great to watch you evolve

[@shreck2259]

The first thing I do every Thursday and Saturday morning (here in Aus) is sit down with a coffee and give it a goo. Thanks Mike, love your work.

[@kimberleyduffin8063]

Thanks for all the effort you put into entertaining us all every week. Look forward to all your content, especially after a hard day at work. Your humour is refreshing and the stories you cover always put life in perspective.

[@Schinzo__]

Julia deserved it

[@goldmoutdog19]

This is my first time seeing a golden comment, this is the most expensive comment I've ever seen

[@ToraydoBull]

@@goldmoutdog19 What is a golden comment?

[@goldmoutdog19]

@@ToraydoBull her comment was gold because she donated money

[@jessymoore9745]

Mike earned that tip for sure. Hes a great storyteller and i dont remember the last time he missed a drop

[@lovemonkeyfunfun]

I’ve been watching that chapter for years. I think it’s the best crime show I watch them all and I just love this channel!!

[@ajtaylor8750]

I remember seeing Disturban cover this case, and this is proof that you really don't know who you're talking to at any moment, not even while having drinks. Such a disturbing case and this man is the stuff of nightmares.

[@Swnsasy]

Thank you! I kept sitting here trying to think of where I heard this one before! Welp, I'll keep an eye out for ya here and there! 🤗

[@saloabad]

I don't think you can trust anyone specially while having drinks.

[@alrightyru]

Like Mike's episode bout the guy going into the bar but never leaving? Nashville? Sadly anything can happen when you're inebriated, gregarious and not fully aware of your surroundings. (inadequate search obv buddy is in the construction area)

[@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey]

But still its many times less likely to be harmed by a stranger than by a close relative or friend. By far.

[@ashsmee]

Been here from the start and every week you get better and better. TC is definitely a comfort channel for me. Love ya Mike thanks for all your hard work!

[@ashsmee]

@@millardf452 because of Mike.

[@susanhughan2198]

@@ashsmee This person @MillardF is a troll 🧌 Always replying to a comment, never just commenting on Mike’s video

[@PhoenIXPhantasies]

@@millardf452 That's actually a common human response. When they see horrible things happen to other people you get the dopamine without being in actual danger. That's why you mostly see dead and despair on the news because people (consciously and subconsciously) like to watch it.

[@PhoenIXPhantasies]

@@millardf452 That's not the same. Looking at the crash would have been. But not the looking at the corpse part. That's not normal.

[@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934]

@@millardf452 please don’t elaborate ty

[@loretta_3843]

It's Saturday morning here and I'm happy to see a new video, thanks Mike 😉 There are so many cctv cameras in England, they can read your licence plate and follow you around the country (unless you use smaller rural roads). I've seen so many cases where cameras were used to find out so much over there.

[@n-as1012]

yes, but we still have dickheads moan about their infringement of privacy and these people do not want more cameras. LOL. must be nice to be more concerned about your privacy, than about being raped or murdered etc.

[@tonybutler8811]

Thanks for this Mike, I live 2 miles from Dudley and this crime was horrific. Keep up the great work and thanks for giving it a goo 👊👍🇬🇧🇮🇪

[@djpempek]

Thank you Mike for all you do. It’s very much appreciated.

[@kaytlynw7215]

Mike thank you for your amazing vibes! my grandma died in a car accident last month and rewatching all of your videos had kept me sane.

[@heythere5260]

Sorry to hear about your Grandma. Grandmas are very special people and leave us with beautiful memories.

[@shoddypockets9666]

I'm so sorry about your grandmother. Love to you and your family x Mike's videos also helped me through tough times.

[@truesnuh4781]

What a case! Thanks for covering this ol' one, Mike. Julia seemed so chill, a good human being. So tragic her life ended in fear and pain. I hope nathan and david get their karma returned in the pen, 10 fold.

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

The removal of her kidney reminds of Jack the Ripper. I think this guy was trying to live out some kind of sick fantasy. It takes an evil person to do something so gruesome. There's no rehabilitating someone that can murder and dismember another human being. He should never see the light of day. What's so scary and sad is seeing the video of her chatting friendly with him. She was completely unaware of what he was going to do to her. Then to see them getting rid of her body like she was nothing is just awful and chilling. That poor woman.

[@vermilliongecko]

I came here to say this. I scanned his bookcase, and he had a BIG book on Jack The Ripper, so he would have known that Catherine Eddowes had had her kidney removed, and he'd have known about the letter from someone claiming to have fried and eaten it.

[@cdes1776]

@@vermilliongecko Trophy of sorts.

[@csh43166]

When the authorities show up, David looks like he's going going to pass out from fear... This sounds glib, and I don't mean for it to be, but this is part of the many reasons why I'm not gregarious and can be very cold toward strangers in social situations. You never know who's lurking out there, or what they may have on their mind. RIP, Julia... 😢🌹

[@alrightyru]

And the partner, mute child ...??? What the heck?

[@raylady0]

and his friends look just as guilty

[@karltheman266]

You sound miserable

[@noahwilson3025]

Tuesdays and fridays, its like waiting for a friend to drop by for a visit and then you hear them at the door and its exciting! just makes my day.

[@sharenee143]

You absolutely make my day Mike! The way you tell these cases is genuine with a splash of humor. Definitely my favorite true crime youtuber!

[@kimbaker3194]

Loving your unique story telling . A bit of humour to make these horrific events more easier to hear , whilst still respecting the victims. Thankyou

[@DemolitionChloe]

As someone who watches your videos before I go to bed, it's so weird to hear you talk about the area I live - Birmingham/ west midlands / Dudley. Keep up the good work! Thank you for this video and all the rest of them

[@dweebicusmaximus]

Every single time I hear about these edgelords having reptiles-undoubtedly just as props for their edginess-I just get so sad imagining the state they probably left those animals in Also man, it is so lucky she asked about (I’m assuming) a tattoo on his neck so he showed the ones on his arms while he was on camera

[@n-as1012]

yes..i don't agree with people being able to buy animals from pet shops etc. There should be many more restrictions.

[@sfischer5858]

Forgive my ignorance, but may i ask what an edgelord is, as this is the fourth time ive heard the term in the past 12 hours?

[@suicune690]

@@sfischer5858 Basically someone who likes to talk about 'dark' things like murder, nihilism and topics that are shocking or offensive because they think it makes them 'cool' and 'intimidating', typically young guys online.

[@lauraxo883]

This is very local to me and it reminded me of a girl I once knew and was murdered by her boyfriend, there's not much on her story and its so upsetting to me because she deserved more, her name is natalie mills and she's from dudley and she was murdered in 2003. X

[@r-pupz7032]

That's awful, I'm so sorry. She definitely deserved more. RIP 💜

[@timstout512]

I agree.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Because that's the most common way women die. And it's condoned to this day.

[@lauraxo883]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 he was a 22 year old addict she was 15 and in love, was such a sad loss and there's only 1 news article about her but it doesn't tell her story and the man is now a free man

[@lauraxo883]

@K.M.V S you found her story, I'm sure there's 1 article about it. Yes she was 15 In care after her dad passed away and Craig was 22 with a drug addiction. All the young girls loved him I couldn't imagine why tho he looked vile

[@machele29]

Hi Mike, the time that U put into your videos for us, combined with the sarcasm, says so very much. So, speaking for the public, if I may, Thank U!!

[@kylieh123]

My best friend has a personality like Julia. She can go up and make friends with anyone and if someone sits alone at a bar she makes sure they're ok. This story is scary and tragic.

[@crazylegolady]

You always brighten my day with your fantastic humour. You are also brilliant! The research you must put into these videos is insane. Thank you for the great videos.

[@kimmoran4437]

I can understand why Mike’s going to reduce it to one video a week!

[@triple0731]

As soon as I saw the thumbnail my heart sank, I don’t remember the case as it happened but I was born in Dudley. This was so close to home and it was the first time I’d properly realised stuff this horrific can happen anywhere, not just America or London. I hope Julia’s loved ones are doing as well as they can in the wake of her loss. 2:16 I’ve driven past that Pegasus many a time and it never stops looking dopey lmao-my favourite though is the roundabout with the Miner statue-as a kid people would put traffic cones on his head and last time I drove past he was sporting the Black Country flag which was nice to see. If you’re ever in the area I recommend a trip to the Black Country Living Museum!

[@mouse45]

Your "Hey you!" brings me such joy and feels like home. You've gotten me through some rough times, and we all love you for being a rock throughout. Love you back ❤️

[@faithfulgab]

I find myself watching your videos whether I've already seen it covered on another channel or not... Your videos are just the most unique, intriguing & entertaining. Thanks for all the time & effort you put forth! You've got a huge community of people that love ya for it 🙃

[@5thdimension625]

Me too, Faith, and I always say “this one is gonna be so much better than so and so’s” and I’m right! Lol

[@ROT4RYfc3s]

You should also check out Mr Ballen and Coffeehouse Crimes.

[@rogerzapp919]

same

[@vannalikehannah6776]

YES WE DO!!! 😀😃😄😅

[@paulwoodford1984]

He’s the fast food of true crime

[@leandrasmith825]

Mike you really have found your calling in life. You are brilliant. I am always excited when my notifications tell me of another video.

[@LordVlax]

A nice girl like Julia, nice to everyone, was nice to a beast... And what beasts they were... The way the murder was described was completly brutal and insane... I dont think there's anyway people like these can live in society...

[@FallenAngel9979]

@Jake E That’s a ridiculous comment.

[@nwicconsultants6640]

@Jake E You are 100% correct without any exceptions. psychopaths who don't hesitate to kill....literally.

[@nwicconsultants6640]

@Jake E surprise, surprise...your response to me was censored and not showing up in the comment section though I did get it in my notices...stay aware and continue to notice what others refuse to believe.

[@canilaughinyourface2556]

@@nwicconsultants6640 get help bro

[@trudygraham2222]

The tone , clarity and humor of your episodes are on point. Thanks for uploading

[@gingerray2834]

Love ya dude! Your humor is such a wonderful addition to your stories yet do NOT diminish the horrific crimes or present any disrespect to the victims and their families or friends. You make my day!

[@DarkCaseDocumentaries]

Not many people can get that balance. It's a gift!

[@Fallopia5150]

@@DarkCaseDocumentaries - A gift.... of the gab! (it's an Irish thing)

[@WhattEvery]

Julia may or may not have been their first victim, but they definitely would have been doing this again, and again, and again. Thank G.(god) they got caught in the nick of time. Thanks, Mike, for this great detective story!

[@Schinzo__]

Julia was there first willing victims judging by that cctv

[@rtyrtyrtyus]

Pretty sure it would have been. A pure chance to meet someone so quickly willing to come home. Having said that, if they had not got caught they'd become proactive in catching victims instead of reactive.

[@woowoo2097]

The only benefit I received from my last disaster of a “boyfriend “ ( I use that title very loosely by a thread) is him telling me about this site. I wish I was kidding but sadly its very very true. So waiting for your new postings every Tuesday and Friday is just a must. Thank you and bless you for letting us into your world a bit and all the hard work you put into these stories. Mike….We love you more back!💕

[@cortney3798]

I wonder how many guys read this comment and wondered if WooWoo was their ex talking about them 😆

[@caitlinlewis1797]

@@cortney3798 right 😂 ugh men.

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

@@cortney3798 me. Knowing my ex fincé and i had a wonderful relationship. We shared a home. She had a brand new car. I had my own business. We spent 7 years cuddling every single night. Yet when she left this is exactly how she talks about our relationship. Left her cat with me. The home she had picked out and decorated. The car she chose.

[@kikidani6777]

@@krotchlickmeugh627 sounds heartbreaking. Sending you lots of love and healing 🫶🏽

[@baronvonshekel7323]

right *laugh emoji with tears* ugh women

[@somecolbyguy1833]

If you pause at 16:49 and take a look at the book collection... Well, all I can say is that when there's smoke, there's fire. Great video, Mike! Thanks (as always) for putting in the time to continue giving us quality entertainment! Cheers from sunny Phoenix! :)

[@cassiechristian1147]

Yet another case I haven't heard of. Thank you so much, I just got home from the hospital and you made my day ❤

[@GastedFlabber]

Hope you're healing well 🤍

[@marilynproctor3485]

That so called human being and his boyfriend should never be released from prison. What they did to Julia was beyond horrific. I hope they are tormented daily in prison. When they shuffle off their mortal coils, the Devil won’t want them as even he has standards when it comes to pure evil. I love ya Mike🥰

[@squeekymoon]

I thought you weren't gonna say 'let's give it a go' for a second there Mike but then you said it. I'm so pleased you said it 😂 All is right with the world again!

[@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607]

It’s absolutely terrifying knowing that a healthy % of the population is unhealthy. Growing up, my parents instilled a very cynical mindset within me-that, while there are good people, I need to be on guard constantly. I always thought they were overprotective. Now I know that they were right.

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

For real. My dad always told us that there are a lot of stupid people in the world. My mom said the world is full of mean and crazy people and to always be careful who to trust. I grew up to realize both were right.

[@B3Band]

Actually, the healthy % of the population is healthy. The unhealthy portion is 100% minus the percent you came up with.

[@eleanorchorao4875]

Well. I used to take some backlash for “scaring” my kids that way. All up to an through college too

[@stefanforrer2573]

@@B3Band ACTUALLY "a healthy percentage" is a figure of speech and does not mean "the percentage of healthy people", you dummy...

[@sophie1060]

Yup, I was brought up to never trust a stranger, especially after a few things happening to relatives. Unfortunately there is little good in this world, so when you find it you must cherish it.

[@rageagainstmyhairline5574]

I think it's worthwhile saying, and I'm sure it's been said elsewhere, but there are many, many, many, people 'obsessed' with horror who are absolutely lovely people that wouldn't hurt a fly. The type of person who would actually murder someone would do so even if they weren't obsessed with horror.

[@theweehooyeah]

you mean like all the people here who are obsessed with That Chapter? of course we are all lovely people ☺☺

[@Nille0212]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm a horror fan and have been since I was a kid. I snuck and watched the original Friday the 13th and I was hooked at 5 yrs old lol. But I would never intentionally do anything to cause pain and suffering to another person, let alone kill them! And that's coming from a person who slept with a Chucky doll until going to college!

[@rageagainstmyhairline5574]

@@theweehooyeah Exactly!

[@rageagainstmyhairline5574]

@@Nille0212 And exactly!!

[@limner123]

Off topic, sorry, but love your username

[@ayanotanabe5220]

Mike is awesome. I know sponsors are very important to the channel’s vitality but he really cuts all the bs in the beginning which I appreciate a lot. I can tell he’s a perfectionist in terms of content and video editing. Kudos.

[@missmeeseeks1772]

I didn't find your channel until this year, and I've been binging you since I first saw you. (I won't write when I started because then people would think I'm a stalker.) But now unfortunately I'm one of those that has to wait for another episode. BUT you post so often with so much material, and me among others are so greatful for it. You're crazygood at your thing! Thank you a million times, and I amongst others Love Ya!

[@clementinedanger]

Sincerely thank you for always centering the victim, Mike. In the episode titles, the thumbnail, the way you tell the story, the decision to do that really shows in every video. It's best practice, but it's also just the right thing to do. Thank you!

[@clementinedanger]

@@millardf452 Well at least you're having fun on this channel and that's what's important

[@DomMazz]

Thank you for the continued dedicated upload schedule Mike! Can always count on your Friday video for my commute home from work 😃

[@DarkCaseDocumentaries]

Mike's consistency deserves a medal 🏅

[@littlewillowlinda]

Holy crap. A changed set of circumstance can have such crazy consequences... Terrifying to think that some small decision can have such a big effect

[@newvocabulary]

Getting drunk and going home with someone you just met is not a small decision and we live in a batshit world where it would ever be considered so.

[@markbelcher2121]

You are wonderful! The production is refreshing. I enjoy the short blank--screen moments. They allow the viewer to Inger on what they just saw. Brilliant Thanks

[@stacyfrazierbauer8811]

I love to listen to your stories while I try and fall asleep. I always gotta go back if I fall asleep and rewatch but I love it!

[@Queen_Kellz_1120]

I do this every night 🤣 my husband knows who I'm watching by the voice ... I always check my history in the am to see what videos "I watched" while asleep 🤣

[@victoriabrown2534]

If you try and fall asleep to them bit have to rewind if you fall asleep, do you actually get any sleep?!

[@wandawhiteaker1738]

Listening to you tell a story, I feel like we're friends and you're filling me in on the local gossip.

[@tyrina2096]

I cannot contain my love for Mike any longer! Mike, you are a real treat. I look forward to your videos every week. Whilst the topics are horrid and distressing, it’s your delivery and mannerisms that ultimately soften the blow to these atrocities. Well done, you!

[@teresac1239]

Hiya Mike!! You are by far my favorite crime boss!! Lol. I've been watching and falling in love with you since the sun is gone upload. I am so excited to see how you are growing your audience. You deserve the best!!!

[@cjromecki5086]

It never ceases to amaze me the degree of man's inhumanity to man! True POS couple! Thank you for covering these cases and bringing them to light

[@michelleadamchak1330]

Holy cow, she sure didn't look like she was in her 40's. She was such a cutie. I just don't understand how people can be so cruel and brutal. It's so awful what those animals did to her. Glad they finally got the killer. Great video as usual Mike. Heartfelt thanks for all your dedication and hard work on these excellent videos!

[@amos5557]

watch my video it’s for you

[@itsruckaswife7036]

Wow youre easily pleased 😳 cutie?

[@kimmymarky9538]

I thought same thing! She looked late 20”s early 30”s

[@riggs20]

We don’t all turn into deformed monsters at 40!

[@amos5557]

hey

[@samn6918]

Love your witty humor, you always make me chuckle. Thanks Mike !

[@dutchie3226]

I appreciate how quickly you get these videos out Mike. Thanks for the hard work and dedication to your channel

[@ocelot299]

Thanks!

[@jeffsea6490]

Sad story thanks for sharing great narrative

[@kathleenmckenna4004]

As someone who recently discovered this channel, I loved the part about sick weirdos who spend "all day, every day" watching disturbing content.

[@Dingomush]

And we love ya too, Mike! Also all the hard work ya put into these videos for us, Thank You!

[@m1garand164]

Haven’t checked out ol Mikey’s channel in awhile. Nice to see it has grown EXPONENTIALLY. Holy cow man. Also nice to see his sense of humor, funny facial expressions, and hilarious comments are still in top form. Congrats on the success, you deserve it Mike. Cheers.

[@isaiahjohnson2532]

Nothing kicks off the weekend like a brand new That Chapter video! Love ya Mike, let’s give it a goo!!!!!

[@alrightyru]

This one's a doozy!

[@tenekokoneko6508]

Hubby just started watching this and as soon as Birmingham showed up on the screen, I said "BUIUUHmingum" (in my best regional accent). And right after, you said it exactly the same way. We're dying.of laughter over here in the midlands..of the United States. Haha! Horrible story, but we do love the levity you bring to the storytelling.

[@WVLFRVN]

I did the same with WUUUULVERAMPTUUUNNN

[@alwaysdead89]

I live in north west england and I do it all the time I can't help myself 😂

[@Dances.In.Storms]

Dudley is in the Black Country its not Birmingham.

[@hambonejamboree7750]

Oh my god really? You’re so whacky.

[@gordonramsdale]

It’s really impressive that you are an American but know where a city outside of America is

[@Nikki-jn3ud]

Mike, I just want to say that I've been watching you for a long time and I've always appreciated your ability to be light hearted but not disrespectful to the dead. You're a good man and I'll stay subbed forever 😍

[@Nikki-jn3ud]

@@millardf452 then why are you here 😂

[@BalooDumptruck]

Milard, go away

[@kittiehill1520]

My mams friend was murdered by her husband Gary Vinter. He had already murdered somebody before this and did time for it but murdered her then attacked somebody in jail and the guy he attacked lost an eye. Just an utter bellend... would be good to hear you cover it though!

[@allissonjacobisaacson6190]

We need to get this comment to the top of the comments list. So that Mr Mike sees it.

[@allissonjacobisaacson6190]

Any chance you can find Mike's contact info and send him a direct message regarding this? I'd be interested in watching it

[@New_Wave_Nancy]

@@allissonjacobisaacson6190 The That Chapter about page has an email apparently.

[@DarkCaseDocumentaries]

Holy cow. Sorry to hear that! I'm going to put this on my list of videos to research if thats ok?

[@alrightyru]

I recently discovered that my great uncle murdered a man who'd broken into the house to rob them. Bashed his head in the floor and saved his Mother's life. Went to trial and the whole thing. He was up for murder in England! But thankfully he was not found guilty and the newspaper ran the pic of him and his Mum after the trial. Amazing!! RIP to your Mum's friend 🙏

[@TheBffTwins]

Thank you Mike!! Much love.

[@ThatChapter]

Appreciate you being here!

[@TheBffTwins]

@@ThatChapter Ditto!

[@adriennemiranda7956]

You couldn't have more perfect timing mike. I have an interview for a big promotion in an hour. This video will help me decompress unwind and relax before that. Everyone wish me luck!

[@maddybertani8161]

Good luck, you won't need it. You'll be awesome! 🤞🤞🤞

[@rationallyruby]

Good luck!!!!

[@yuriram3064]

Good luck 😊 and give it a goooo !!!

[@kvkkaha]

22:07 on a Friday in Greece. Took me a sec to realise you are in another time zone. Good luck!!!

[@daisybelle1025]

Good luck . .

[@taras6806]

Glad to hear you're not a wannabe killer, let alone actual, let alone serial, Mike. :) Yep. looking into my internet history would suggest I'm some kind of disturbed person. I promise I'm not. You're the best :) Always with humour, compassion, accuracy, lots of context which draws us in. Thank you!

[@sissiprincess9986]

My kind of bed time story!!! Love your channel, Mike!