Julie Bindel: The gender debate, 'scary feminists' and Pretty Woman | SpectatorTV

Julie Bindel is a radical feminist, journalist and activist. Growing up in Darlington, she left school aged 15, and at 16 moved to Leeds in search of - in her own words - 'scary-sounding feminists'. In the 90s, she founded Justice For Women, a feminist campaigning organisation that supports, and advocates on behalf of, women who have fought back against or killed violent men. On the podcast, Julie talks about her upbringing in the North East, her fight in the gender ideology debate, and she shares her thoughts on Pretty Woman.
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[@TheSapphire51]

Its so refreshing to listen to a woman whose brain has not been polluted by internalised misogynistic crap. Absolutely do not keep quiet about the abuse of women or apologise for standing up for what is right.

[@anonUK]

No her brain's swimming in misandrist crap instead. I'm still amazed at the number of rightwingers making common cause with JB over trans lunacy when she represents something just as harmful in her own way.

[@incurableromantic4006]

Yes it's so amazing to get profound insights like - "Hollywood is not real life". I don't know where we'd be without such a titan-intellect.

[@MsBron23]

"lobby MPs".? well therein lies the rub, most MPs won't define "women" and "girls"; How on earth can they protect (in law) what they can't, or won't, clearly define.

[@anttijumppainen9213]

Thanks ladies!! 😘

[@michelestones3496]

A good interview. I find it difficult to comprehend current trans ideology, but I recognise bullying and women are being into silence on this matter. Men have no place in 'women only safe places' or female sports, whoever they choose to identify as. But a man who wishes to live as a women, should be able to do so in safety and live in peace. Does this make me a turf!

[@wooshbait36]

Yes it does make you a turf

[@evacope1718]

@@wooshbait36 I'm a proud terf then. Lol

[@Ash-gtr32]

How can he choose to live as woman? he's NOT a woman.

[@paintitblack6728]

Living as women... Bahahahahah it's not possible, which women are you talking about that these male fetishists are living as. They still have a penis and all the male cells, chromosomes, anatomy even if they don't have a penis They are not living as women. They're men pretending and lying about who they are. Clothes wigs nail polish and make up and shoes don't make living as a women. That's stereotyping.Males are not women. therefore cannot "live" as women. Rolls eyes to the back of my head.

[@Adv18]

@@evacope1718 the word Terf is now outdated, they now call them FARTs

[@CMark50]

Good interview. I do disagree on the point with Julie regarding trans people have rights. No one is saying that a man pretending to be a woman can't dress up and dance around (snark intended). What is being said, and insisted on, is that a man pretending to be a woman is NOT a woman, and therefore they need (meaning a man pretending to be a woman) their own space. It really is a simple fix, but it is also one that men pretending to be a woman completely reject. There is no such thing as a trans "woman', as in not real. So, it is a hard no to allowing men in any and all female spaces. It is stunning to see women/females support the trans lunacy. Do they truly not understand that they are working toward the goal of women not being allowed to say no to anything? Are trans supporters, regardless of gender, really that dim?

[@paintitblack6728]

ON POINT !!

[@TheSapphire51]

Yes I am appalled at how stupid these women who act against the best interest of women have proven themselves to be.

[@smokexsmoke99]

Transgender people have the same brain structures of the gender they identify as. It's been proven with brain scans.

[@carmelmulroy6459]

Most men identifying as female are hetrosexual dudes. More than 90% keep their penises. We need to get that out there. The trans rights movement have hitched themselves to the gay rights movement we need to unhitch them. Autogynophilia is not a sexual orientation so it doesn't belong with the LGB

[@simonclare100]

Definately dim

[@russellsharpe288]

She's kicking at an open door when she takes the trouble to say that Boris Johnson is not a feminist. Boris, as everyone must know, is first and last a Borisist. Always good to hear from Julie Bindel, irrespective of the fact that she always says much to disagree with. She is someone who it is possible to have a conversation with, unlike the shrieking transharridan narcissists of either sex who have been vainly trying to deplatform and cancel her and everyone else who still has a moral compass.

[@bdts35]

Why bother having a conversation with her? She’s an insane lesbian who hates men, so she’s not going to get us anywhere.

[@mynnchloque1270]

Boris is AGP. AGP is conservative misogynist man.

[@gazzamc1255]

Boris is a Borisist 😄😄😄😄 I just pissed myself laughing.

[@heyhey9182]

What, specifically, do you disagree with in what she says?

[@sherylwhite2201]

A time of the most unbridled misogyny in four decades..... I totally agree Julie. I'm in my 70's and havent seen anything like it really. The absolute contempt, and I think the misogynists are just relishing the permissions that exist to hate on women on behalf of rights for poor victimised trans

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

An epidemic of men who think their lives would be better if they were women. It's hard to make the case that they are wrong.

[@mmc1086]

You put into words what I’ve been thinking. It’s the same thing that’s going on against Amber Heard. A certain brand of man is giddy with glee to have a socially acceptable way to openly abuse a woman with impunity. Sadly this certain brand appears to be the majority. I am 38 and left an abuser 10 years ago. I do not anticipate finding a male partner who meets my views and standards.

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

@@mmc1086 I think the average man is just "giddy with glee" to see a pathological liar get busted trying to ruin a man's career on nothing more than an accusation, as has been worryingly common of recent years. Even though despite the legal conclusion being exactly this, she remains the victim in the eyes of the usual suspects. Incidentally, I'm 46 and I also left a (female) abuser some years ago, but I have at least the wisdom to not assume she represents the majority of women.

[@paintitblack6728]

Absolutely @Sheryl White, Absolutely!

[@paintitblack6728]

@@goodlookinouthomie1757 He was already guilty of DV in England. It was already proven he abused physically assalted and he had to find a court in a juristiction several states away that wasn't like L.A state laws to win a case of DV he had already lost. then he and his Lawyer waged a campaign to trash her. You are a sheep. Go Jump like all the rest of you do. I doubt and do not believe you were abused. I reckon you are a provoctive manipulative abuser.

[@leafmebee]

Haha love what she said about Pretty Woman 2 😂

[@Brianbeesandbikes]

What an incredible and brave person. I'll be even more of a feminist activist thanks to her modeling it.

[@pennydee]

Love this, we forget that there is a whole lot more amazing work that Julie Bindel has done over the years and continues to, other than just standing up to the TRA’s and protecting women

[@truethirtywithjoeydumont9448]

Great interview! So happy there are women like you Julie Bindel -- keep up the good work.

[@kevindunne77]

Except for the fact she does nothing but promoted hatred against men, and always talks about destroying the family to rid the "Patriarchy".

[@Anonymous-qw]

Why are you happy there are women like Julie Bindel?

[@truethirtywithjoeydumont9448]

@@Anonymous-qw She has spent her entire life lobbying on behalf of women and girls. She's a storied reporter and overall great human being. Does that help? 🙂

[@Anonymous-qw]

@@truethirtywithjoeydumont9448 Great human being, I don't think so. She has spent her life hating and trying to blame everything on men more like. Since these trans issues have started she has tried to hide her extremist views to make her acceptable to write in centre right newspapers like the Daily Mail and appear centre right TV channels like GB News. But you should read her earlier writings (some of which are available on the internet). In one she said all men should be put in concentration camps.

[@truethirtywithjoeydumont9448]

@@Anonymous-qw I have yet to read where she wanted to put "all men in concentration camps" but I will look into that claim... considering I am a man at all (smile). All that I know about Julie Bindel to date is the opposite of what you believe.

[@hananonihongo]

Sound quality is very strange on these podcasts... Music seems to be really blaring yet the voiceover is very quiet. It's as if Ms Ball's mic levels are weirdly adjusted to be flatter and quieter than in the regular spectator videos. I never noticed similar issues with other Spectator videos - could that be fixed somehow, please?

[@jp80a68]

Julie Bindel is one of my heroes, her thinking is so refreshing to me she speaks just good common sense. We all know that prostitution, DV, Phornography, radical islamism, and now the trans movement are anti women. I am going to ask everyone who asks for my vote this year, how they are going to stand up for women, particulary against the Rabid trans activists. I hope every woman in the country does the same.

[@snuffeldjuret]

people who are locked in leftism no mater what should be discarded. They will only bring misfortune.

[@pixiwix]

Julie Bindel is the female role model I have so desperately craved my entire life. I never saw her until recently, and by that point, I'd already become my own role model just like her. She is the hero society needs.

[@ameliaannhouck2670]

THIS WAS A FANTASTIC INTERVIEW !! WHAT I WOULD NOT GIVE TO BE A MEMBER OF JULIE BINDEL'S FRIEND!! WHAT I WOULD NOT GIVE TO WORK WITH HER !!

[@summerswan3872]

Julie you are spot on 👍

[@williammillard687]

As a male experiencer of (admitted) domestic violence by my ex-wife witnessed by our daughter (who was 9 at the time) , I’d like to point out that not only women experience such terrible treatment at the whim of others.....nothing is simple and it is wrong to stereotype anything.

[@rhobatbrynjones7374]

I'm sorry to hear about your experience William and domestic violence against men and the causes of it is a serious matter which requires attention. Unfortunately, the number of cases of domestic violence against women was 1.4 million in 2020, against men 786,000 in the previous year. So the number of cases involving women is double that of men. This is not to set one against the other but to give the discussion some kind of basic context. The other factor is that domestic violence against women is that it fits in to a more general pattern of inequality for women in wider society, employment opportunities and access to political influence being two examples. However the fact that a third of all domestic violence cases are against men is significant and perhaps does not receive the appropriate attention on the media that it should.

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@rhobatbrynjones7374 of course, men are probably 3x less likely to report abuse. And that's a severe understatement. And yes, women often conflate things that have no logical reason to be included in the specific issue we are talking about. Weldone.

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@rhobatbrynjones7374 I'd also say, that a lot of reported abuse is actually the police arriving and immediately taking the females side, as per their policy, meaning the victim is removed and locked up for being abused. But we won't mention such systemic issues.

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@rhobatbrynjones7374 now, I don't blame you for having such a warped view of reality. I blame people like bindels. Have you ever heard of Erin pizzey? Perhaps you should look into her, here she is talking about why you are wrong. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYDUm3-biLGUbJo

[@rhobatbrynjones7374]

@Tunnocks teacake N Often guilty? Where's your evidence for that?

[@wardygrub]

Balls the fox and Birchall the cat engaging in a rampant Q nA! Brilliant, provocative and inspiring. Thank you. Xx

[@jamakaya1332]

Very nice to learn about Julie's early life and what shaped her. Nice interview.

[@tillitseac3774]

I really needed this , great 👍

[@manusha1349]

LOVE Julie ❤

[@frankzappaspussy7362]

great interview.. and powerful insight at the end about not letting the cowardly bullies smell blood..

[@elleahl4943]

Accompanying music to the show introduction is overbearing, one can barely hear the voiceover because the music is playing at a volume which one would find objectionable at a nightclub. Thank you.

[@alistairevans1428]

I would hardly call JK Rowling a radical feminist...

[@Mikecores]

Yeah well radicals call each other and everyone radical, as they have little to no clue about reality in this monstrous victimmentality fest.

[@curiositycloset2359]

Well, she did warp the mind of 100s of millions of children, soooo

[@jeantaylor6318]

​@@curiositycloset2359 no she did not!!!

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@jeantaylor6318 well, she did. And now her self righteous, nihilistic, and stunted charges have paid her back by trying to eat her. She has a lot to answer for that's for sure. Not that she'll ever understand that, she'll just act just like them, and they like her.

[@jeantaylor6318]

@@curiositycloset2359 what nonsense!!

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

People consider her a man hater for pointing out what men do to women. 😒

[@kevindunne77]

Or maybe people consider her a man-hater because she a man-hater. She wants to put all men in cages, what would you call that?

[@rosaartemis]

God, her intelligence and humanity and her common sense make me want to be a better feminist myself... where do I even start?

[@amandag5072]

I know what you mean. I don't have a clue where to start getting active as a feminist.

[@LightSpell28]

@@amandag5072 find out about organisations and people in your local area who care about similar issues, maybe you saw a protest against surrogacy a few years ago, reach out to the organisers! if you're in a political party or trade union, find the women who agree with you. if you're in the UK, Women's Rights Network is a good place to start and get in touch with local women. find women in the real world, only being angry on the internet leads to more isolation.

[@sisterrosetta57]

Excellent as always.

[@Penndennis]

Yes! Great interview with Julie Bindel. More content like this, please. Katie Balls is excellent; no over-talking, no interruptions; she lets her guests speak and with the lightest touch steers the conversation - superb!

[@Josh95x]

I'm sure the guests enjoy her approach too. They can say what they like without being challenged, even if she at least played devil's advocate from time to time it would be more interesting.

[@hughiemg2]

@@Josh95x agreed, zero challenges on any points make it feel like more of a puff piece

[@stellarocquie7957]

Support legislation in NY S8351 and NJ A4122 to BAN COURT ORDERED RAPE.

[@stewiemac4017]

Excellent interview, thank you. While Julie's clinging to "the left" is a bit pitiful, we have moved past simple Left Right paradigms. While there seems to be a blind spot that sex work is increasingly gay men and Trans people, that porn is increasingly gay and Trans. I'm otherwise right on the same page. About the weak pathetic men who abuse women physically and (increasingly?) psychologically. They deserve nothing less than proper male style punishment. About the sheer misogyny of men dressing as women and seeking to trample on the inalienable rights of women. All pre-op of course. On the criminal justice system putting men in womens' prisons and safe spaces. About this rampant misogyny, mainly of the left, washing through academia. Feminists and male supporters with balls need to start getting A Lot more riled up and vocal. Even if it does feel like "oh what, again?"

[@curiositycloset2359]

Well, let's just remember, it was people like bindel who enabled them in the first place. I believe this Munchausen by proxy, or creating problems so you can be seen to be solving them, is just part of these folks play book.

[@stewiemac4017]

@@curiositycloset2359 oh hardly!! the LGB organisations have been hopelessly infiltrated but we cannot blame Julie et all!

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@stewiemac4017 they built them, and allowed them to be infiltrated. No doubt backed them during it, and are now complaining about it to the people they built them to attack. I'm not blaming all of them, just the bindel types, who would definitely be in favour of this aggressive policy, if only she had more control over it.

[@Ashakat42]

I'm curious about what you said about sex workers being mostly gay and trans now. Do you have a source on that stat so I can read up on it?

[@stewiemac4017]

@@Ashakat42 increasingly ≠ mostly

[@janeandclementine]

Absolutely brilliant, love Julie Bindel and appreciate her comments in support of JK Rowling.

[@ImJushere4dacomments]

The way she ran from Jesse Lee Peterson is still hilarious 🤣🤣😭😭 #chickensong🐔

[@stardust5397]

I respect almost all of what Julie has to say but as an old school feminist I was still absolutely astonished & horrified by the absolute discrimination my Son experienced in seeking access to his Son ( with no suggestion if violence ) It was the worst experience of my life as it broke my Son & smashed my faith in obtaining true justice in the U.K. as it was so skewed towards the Mother. Her recollections of being brought up in the North resonate so much with mine & my journey of leaving home at 16 & education later in life also reflects hers. It’s not Julie’s battle but as a direct result of my experience of the family courts I sure as hell think somebody needs to fight for justice for Fathers seeking justice in the family Court

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

When everything up to and including the weather is blamed on misogyny, it's hard to not involve men in the discussion.

[@Ash-gtr32]

@Marina Ellerington You are not everyone's mum, but there are mums out there who cannot see their grandchildren due to the problem Star dust shared.

[@paintitblack6728]

@@Ash-gtr32 the family court system is a male run and the laws are man made. When you go out and actively address that problem get out on the streets, do the work then you'll see the males in their higher up positions actively doing what star is compalining about, this a male issue not a womans. Males create this why can you not see this ! They Make The Rules, Get It !!

[@Ash-gtr32]

@@paintitblack6728 It is also an issue that affects the children and family not just men.

[@paintitblack6728]

There is so much misogyny, everywhere it's palpable. Like JB says When women challenge you, or any male on the behaviour you deny it claim it is true and then act like a misogynist to claim you are not one, it's insane

[@wessaber8049]

She started off ok but then classified any male activist as a sexist. Polarised thinking is not gender specific.

[@paintitblack6728]

Go Back and listen again, then use quotes" and tell me where it is said by her those exact words. because I didn't hear that.

[@tinamac2380]

One word - FANTASTIC

[@Claudia-es8jv]

I don’t even ‘identify’ as a feminist but I just love Julie Bindel, so logical and strong and anti-woke.

[@curiositycloset2359]

Lol she's just the prototype.

[@Claudia-es8jv]

@@curiositycloset2359 🙄

[@shesalilsapphicokay]

Women like her, and Posie Parker/Kellie-Jay Keen are the heart of feminism to me (though Posie thinks it's time to give up trying to reclaim the term feminist). Lisa Michelle too, those she's less known.

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@shesalilsapphicokay they were exactly the same as what they complain about, then lost power and now they don't like it anymore hmm

[@Claudia-es8jv]

@@shesalilsapphicokay I’ll have to look into Lisa Michelle as I love the other two :)

[@fatelessfadewalker7180]

The statement about men should be afraid of feminism was an immediate turn off to even listen to this woman. You're getting feminism wrong if you think that way.

[@insidiousmischka]

I think you misunderstand or choose to understand it differently than how it’s meant.

[@fatelessfadewalker7180]

@@insidiousmischka what is meant by " men should be afraid of feminism"

[@zannedaglio]

@@fatelessfadewalker7180 I think it means they need to take it seriously, to reflect themselves about how they don't. How they for example patronize women. I'm talking about men as a group, as a sex class.

[@fatelessfadewalker7180]

@@zannedaglio anyone can be patronizing regardless of sex. Anyone can be an asshole. Regardless, does anyone really think that speaking to men this way is going to change anything? Doubtful

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

@@fatelessfadewalker7180 you're the epitome of what she's talking about. Instead of reflecting on her words, you just turn off the TV and continue to live in ignorance and don't want to change.

[@sisiphas]

Julie Bindel has done so very very much for women over the years. She has sometimes bought into some of the divisiveness among those of us who are fighting for women’s rights in the context of extreme misogyny of dangerous gender ideology, and so-called ‘progressiveness’ - we need to stand together regardless of that which divides us.

[@guff9567]

Stop being so sexist. What has Bindel done for men? Fanny Adams.

[@karinelaxa959]

@@guff9567 Why on earth should she do anything for men? It’s not her mission nor her duty.

[@guff9567]

@@karinelaxa959 EXACTLY. A born and bred SEXIST

[@shesalilsapphicokay]

@@karinelaxa959 Right? I wouldn't complain about men's rights folks not doing anything for women, or about a children's charity not doing anything for adults...

[@kevindunne77]

@@shesalilsapphicokay But yet you feminists are always complaining about how men need to champion women, so I should I care about women when feminists (like Bindel) hates anything male?

[@terryperusse8328]

She is a true heroine to generations of women. Brilliant!

[@patolucaspato163]

it,yes it is a great shit like your words

[@MrHighlander1963]

A true idiot more like

[@annetteannette9205]

Absolutely adore Julie Bindel and thank her from the bottom of my heart for all she has done over the years and for enduring all the crap she's had to take.

[@kevindunne77]

You adore Bindel, even though she labels Men Rights Advocates who point out bias against fathers in family court and male victims of domestic violence as sexist?

[@janekennaway8008]

Music behind is too loud!

[@shelaghcorker3596]

So many men playing "me too" and denigrating this woman for her views. Rather typical, I'd say.

[@DoReMeaCulpa]

@Shelagh Corker, I noticed that, too. It is so typical though. Seems it doesnt take much for some men to find any excuse to denigrate women. KZbin comments sections are well populated with men like that.

[@shesalilsapphicokay]

Yep. Feminism is for women. Men's rights activism etc is for men. Both groups say spicy things about each other. IDK why this is so hard to understand...

[@emilyb5278]

What has men's right achieved for men?

[@davidcottrell2243]

Julie, have you spoken out against the Pakistani grooming gangs. I only ask as I don't follow you, but am also interested in women's issues such as the erosion of their rights when biological males complete in women's events. I am a gay man and was married for 18 years and have a daughter and grand daughter. The reason I ask is that I never hear feminists talk about anything but the patriarchy. Most respectfully yours, David

[@robleahy5759]

She clearly said that heroin dealers, under pressure from policing, moved into under age rape to replace their incomes. Brown people lack agency and are never to blame in her world view. Only the state, or white people can commit immoral acts. She really says this. Evil monsters are not to blame, someone else is.

[@davidcottrell2243]

It's an ongoing abomination and it's incumbent upon us all not to let this issue rest. Both feminists and non feminists.

[@paintitblack6728]

@@davidcottrell2243 It's the feminists that get things started and done in most things about women & girls

[@carmenspeer7796]

Feminists talk about other things apart from patriarchy. We talk about patriarchy when talking about feminism. That’s like saying “I only ever hear civil rights activists talk about white supremacy.” That’s what the movement is about: talking about that thing in order to end that thing.

[@janicemitchell6950]

'Terms like toxic masculinity were created by toxic females. Real women don't do fake feminism ' Candace Owens

[@sarataylor885]

Does the woman hosting this know that Lucian Freud once painted her portrait?

[@spartacusforlife1508]

The feminism of germaine greer and such was always something I could get on board with. As a man of 60, I , like many men of my generation, looked at long term relationships as a partnership but over the years younger, more radical, feminism largely replaced the 60's version. The impact of this can now be seen with the growing number of males not looking to get married because they see no advantage in it. In many ways the modern women's movement is scuppering their chances of long term nourishing relationships with men. In many ways I've heard young women, especially of student age, spout feminist ideals when it is apparent they have only read the forward to a feminist handbook.

[@paintitblack6728]

And What have you heard the young men say? Anything different? What books do they read if any at all?

[@keithlongley362]

@@paintitblack6728 For your information, you only need one question mark.

[@paintitblack6728]

What I need is nothing to do with you,I don't care for any information that comes from a MM clearly you are obsessed with me go away you are being a creepy male.

[@collyernicholasjohn]

@@keithlongley362 I wasn’t aware. So, you have three questions in complete sentences but only one question mark. Does the ‘one question mark rule’ (presumably at the end) apply if there are, let’s say, five questions, or ten in a row?

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Yeah, that's not a bad thing. Men got into relationships and expected women to be live-in maids and cooks. So, now that women have lives outside of taking care of men, men don't like it. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Oh well. Women are learning to be self sufficient. Men don't know how to handle it.

[@K_F_P]

Ofcom, yes Ofcom are displaying the 'Progress Pride Flag' (updated to include intersex) on the official Twitter.

[@uterushaver8309]

"The Progress Pride flag was developed in 2018 by non-binary American artist and designer Daniel Quasar (who uses xe/xyr pronouns)." "Xe / Xem / Xir is a set of gender neutral pronouns that some people and/or organisations have adopted. For example, you would say “Xe is hungry” instead of “He/She is hungry”, “Please tell xem that lunch is ready” instead of “Please tell him/her that lunch is ready”, and “This sandwich is xirs” instead of “This sandwich is his/hers”."

[@K_F_P]

@@uterushaver8309 I believe it was copyrighted too. 💲

[@henazz2561]

That flag gets uglier and uglier as time goes by. It should’ve stayed as the original flag

[@celiabarrett2107]

​@@uterushaver8309how is the "x" in those words pronounced? Like z or ks? Just out of curiosity

[@doyle6000]

Interesting, thanks!

[@paulklee5790]

If a male guest said ‘if women are not threatened .....’ well you know the rest.

[@spurge83]

?

[@Diamondsparkle788]

Yeah but women aren't a sexual threat to men. Some men can't get sex unless rape. For women that's not the case and you know it

[@Islas_Canarias]

I've been married for 18 years and am a stay at home mother, by choice. I've never bothered with feminism because my mother, who worked from home in the 70's and 80's never mentioned the word. She showed me through her actions that I could do whatever I wanted with my life. At age 19 i got my first job, saved for a year. Then at age 20 I moved overseas for 4 years. On return I went to university. I ran the office of a mining company at age 30. Once I got married at 34 I quickly became pregnant and all I wanted to do was stay home and be with my son. Today he is 15 and I homeschool him. My husband is the more feminist one. He wanted me to work full-time to bring in more income. I'm not materialistic (never have been) so wasn't interested in money when I had a beautiful child at home who gave me more fulfilment. Some men are more feminist than some women are. I know because I married one!

[@DonnaBrooks]

Your post has nothing to do with Julie's interview! It's not a feminist thing for you to work outside the home because your husband wants you to do so! Lots of ABUSIVE men don't want their female partners to work because they want to keep the woman financially dependent on them. That's entirely different from a woman who feels fulfilled in being a homemaker or mother. Feminism is about women's rights & freedom from the control of men! You clearly don't understand feminism if you think it's saying that women who WANT to stay home & raise children should go out and get a job outside the home. Feminists want women to be free to choose any career or job or business they want to pursue. WANT to pursue... Not feel like they HAVE TO PURSUE! If a woman is unhappy being a homemaker full-time, or if she just wants financial independence to take classes or engage in other interests, she should be free to get a part-time or full-time job, start a business, etc. However, if SHE wants to stay at home & be financially dependent on another person, that's her business! Women's work at home is still work! In fact, many feminists want women to be paid for their work in the home because it is so underappreciated. I think this is a good argument for UBI (Universal Basic Income) so that those women who WANT to stay home but HAVE to work outside the home to support the family can have the freedom to NOT work outside the home!

[@lisasutcliffe5352]

​@@DonnaBrooks well said

[@wardygrub]

You clueless prat!

[@shaunashton5434]

Brilliant interview. Thank you for the lucid, adult counterpoints to delusions.

[@user-tf2rj2jm2n]

Julie’s all right.but I have to object to the Betty’s jibe.Betty’s is fab,

[@marienkablack6737]

It's really hard to hear your introduction because the music is too loud.

[@scatton61]

Many of the problems we are now experiencing with sex, gender and racial issues are a result of the feminist of the 1960s entering academia and claiming that men and women are equal and any differences are social constructs. These ferminists through feminist theory , identity politics, CRT courses created radical feminist activists who are now in our mainstream corporations. Feminists are quiet on problems with certain ethnic problems we have in the UK who are rapping our young women on an industrial scale.... Many many feminists are quiet on men claiming to be women and destroying women athletes hopes and dreams and they are quiet to the point of promoting the sexual transitioning of children. Frankly I am not a big fan of feminists. I have listened to her many times and I agree much with what she has to say but being the right feminists seems too much like the "No true Scotsman" falicy .

[@scatton61]

@Tunnocks teacake N Don't know what you mean

[@user-wt3wl3pm6q]

Feminists killed married and purposely did it, they books from the 60s and 70s make it clear that to achieve “equality” they need to take away that choice from most women.

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@scatton61 the women they are graping are mainly workingckass, so they don't care. Plus, it gives them the statistics they want.

[@onetwo19]

Fascinating but I was a bit shocked about her aversion of mens' right's groups. The men's groups had a lot of very valid complaints.

[@Philiptanzer]

Because she's a female supremacist flavour of feminist. Don't make the mistake of thinking the old feminists are good people, they want a clear dividing line between men and women not because they are sane but for the same reason Nazis wouldn't want Jews saying they're Arian (they consider it a vile blasphemy).

[@globalroamer1900]

One prevailing ideology replaces another in perpetuity

[@sue.F]

Women nowadays have no idea how much they owe to feminists like Julie.

[@curiositycloset2359]

People like bindel got us into this mess

[@DoReMeaCulpa]

@Tunnocks teacake N sounds like you are projecting your own bitterness onto women. How pathetic.

[@emilyb5278]

Yep women rights got us everything and get so many girls still claim they don't need them

[@muiresuilgorm3452]

People have short memories.

[@iateyursandwiches]

How will others learn about feminism if its not talked about though? Yes, it would be good if everyone was politically active and picketing. Also most of the feminists in this generation even the ones pro sex work, are NOT challenging men less and men are just as angry and annoyed about it constantly exclaiming that there is no need for feminism anymore, the idea of rape culture is stupid, resisting womens effort to end over sexualization/objectification of all women etc. So i dont know which feminists she has been following. Its actually the feminists that focus only on the larger issues (like Bindel) that they tend to be okay with.

[@katespellxx9529]

That was wonderful, thank you. Love Julie Bindel, such an inspiration to women everywhere.

[@kevindunne77]

Well if you mean an inspiration to women by hating very man that lives I'd agree, but that's nothing to be proud of.

[@MJ-fv7lh]

I love Julie Bindel. She is one of the few who fight for females and women’s rights.

[@shaunslator1205]

2 minutes in and the victim narrative is too much. Pass.

[@shesalilsapphicokay]

I just watched the first 2 mins. She would have had to lie to avoid that accusation.

[@Gozzillacia]

Working-class chap here -- in school girls were not - "either a slag or a lezzer" - there were those categories - but the vast majority of girls were considered - as just ordinary girls. I heard that awful artist Tracy Emin say something similar -- I wonder why they lie like this, slander their class - these women?

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Probably because it's quite common for women to have been referred to in that way. Just because you didn't experience it, doesn't make it a lie.

[@Gozzillacia]

@@ASMRyouVEGANyet I did experience it. I went to a white working-class school, and grew-up on a white working-class council estate. I know how we boys talked. There were some males (creeps) who would call all women "cows," they would in fact call Mother Teresa a whore. But most of us boys wouldn't. There were a few girls, mostly damaged, who were "easy"- and who got that reputation - but only a few. Sadly - the influence of black culture has made the practice of referring to every female, but your mother, as a "ho" common - but that sad development happened well after Julie Bindall grew-up. I am not saying she was - but the women that do claim in working-class communities this was the normal tend to be the damage girls I mention above.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

No, she said before they're was 3 categories of girls at school...Good girls, slags and lezza. You're thinking of the "good girls".

[@pennycatterick5148]

Rosa Parks was arrested on December 1, 1955, after she refused to give up her seat on a crowded bus to a white passenger. On that day she would not yield to so called legal rights, because they ain't human rights. On this day no child of god should ever yield to people entangled in their own net of life, have we not learnt from our ancestors? So, let me read to you a poem by Maya Angelou which captures the essence of being a child of god, looking with love, compassion and sadness upon those souls gripped by the fear of their own mortality. Its not possible to become attached to the limited mortal debates going to and fro. We come to this earth with nothing and leave with nothing, our body parts vegetating to become top soil. Such expenditure of energy might be better purposed concentrating on the health of two vital organs, our mind and our heart. Over to you Angela,.....my sweetheart, to tell it as it is! "You may write me down in history with your bitter, twisted lies, You may trod me in the very dirt But still, like dust, I'll rise. Does my sassiness upset you? Why are you beset with gloom? ’Cause I walk like I've got oil wells pumping in my living room. Just like moons and like suns, with the certainty of tides, Just like hopes springing high, Still I'll rise. Did you want to see me broken? Bowed head and lowered eyes? Shoulders falling down like teardrops, weakened by my soulful cries? Does my sassiness offend you? Don't you take it awful hard ’Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines diggin’ in my own backyard. You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, You may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I’ll rise. Does my sexiness upset you? Does it come as a surprise That I dance like I've got diamonds at the meeting of my thighs? Out of the huts of history’s shame I rise Up from a past that’s rooted in pain I rise I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide, welling and swelling I bear in the tide. Leaving behind nights of terror and fear I rise Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear I rise Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave, I am the dream and the hope of the slave. Much love PennyXxx Not a women, nor a transgender women, rather a gorgeous child of god.

[@rhobatbrynjones7374]

Really good interview and interesting to hear Julie Bindel's views in greater depth.

[@carlodefalco7930]

Saw her with Douglas Murray and I thought she was someone to listen to but , you’re opening monologue about her makes me think she’s just as violent and crazy and unbalanced as the militant transactivists she ridiculed when she was talking with Murray.. committing violent acts against men or women and saying if men not scared of your feminism you’re not doing it right, that’s absolutely ridiculous ,you’re just like the militant crazy transactivists .. I’m gonna try and listen to the entire video

[@theknowerandtheknown]

Its frustrating for her to bracket ALL men who say that they too are victims of domestic abuse and the court system as men who are misogynistic and patriarchal is so frustrating and all she is doing is showing that woman are just as cold and heartless as they men they complain about. It's childish! I hate bad men too but so many are not

[@D-Oliver]

She didn't bracket *all* men. She makes a few comments at various times that show she's not absolutist about these things. I think that, taken as a whole, the interview shows a balanced take which doesn't deny male victims.

[@spm36]

@@D-Oliver she stated clearly ALL the boys at her school were awful....utterly impossible to state that...those who hate groupthink seem awfully keen on castigating groups themselves

[@D-Oliver]

​@@spm36 In the section near the beginning, she says "the boys", not "all the boys". Is there another part in which she uses "all"? To be honest, I think either can charitably be taken as a statement of the general rather than a judgment of every male pupil in her school back then. We, including Julie, all know there are nice boys and men around. To me, the message is she suffered bullying from (most of) the boys, which I don't find hard to believe. I listened to her relatively recent Triggernometry podcast interview, which I'd recommend. She doesn't come across as a man-hater.

[@jeantaylor6318]

Tom T I know she is very militant but no one has an answer to why so many women are murdered by men?????

[@robleahy5759]

@@jeantaylor6318 men murder victims way outnumber women victims. Men rape victims way outnumber women victims. Look in a prison. But what a well intentioned soul you seem...

[@deal2live]

There is often a physical structure between communities. Railway lines main roads etc!!

[@michelerafferty8562]

Love her !

[@JustMe-zk9dc]

Pretty women is about the redemption of love If pretty women is so bad is Rambo and other films aimed at me which glorify war and combat If people are to stupid to realise films are fantasy that's on them

[@Ashakat42]

Yes, male fantasy movies like Rambo with simplistic war motifs can be detrimental to society. It's not that people can't tell that it's fantasy it's that the background noise of culture laying out the parameters of what's normal with our fantasy. Just like fairy tales of old we pass down our collective knowledge in the stories we surround ourselves with and those stories shape the future as well.

[@laurenjones2909]

I agree julie there is still a lot of negativity towards feminism ! It's so wrong that we cannot speak out about womens rights without cannot tarnished as man haters! This is why feminism is still needed n always will be!

[@spurge83]

I wonder what gives people that idea about feminism....

[@paintitblack6728]

@@spurge83 misogyny

[@laurenjones2909]

@@spurge83 why is it always about men 😂 you clearly dont know the meaning of feminism! Until some men stop the rape and all forms of abuse of women we will always need feminism!

[@OrangeCanna9468]

She right, I'll have to follow Julie bindel.

[@harrygmattin]

I like this woman but I do wish she wouldn’t make feminism sound like a good thing. It’s just the opposite of misogyny.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

Sexual violence from some men is a problem and that's what she fights to end

[@shesalilsapphicokay]

I like her. I don't really understand people's problem with her to be honest. Sure, there are some quotes that are pretty spicy... but that's just kinda par for the course. Because, at the end of the day, there's plenty for feminists and just women in general to be spicy about. Besides, men say plenty of spicy things about women. Lets be balanced about this. I particularly don't understand why people are holding past against her. So what if her past motivates her? She seems to be doing good work. Surely that's what should matter. She can't help having the history she does, all she can do is do good stuff and now. I'm not an expert on this woman, but she seems to doing good stuff now as far as I can see. Side note: might read her book Straight Expectations. Life has become a bit weird for us gays. On the one hand you've got many people shouting about how pro-gay they are, but really that's been totally undermined by the changing definitions of the words men and women. The voices of many lesbians have been lost in recent years.

[@LH-kr4od]

I can completely relate - I was called a lesbian in primary school by boys who were jealous/aware of my crush on my best friend, whilst I had no idea what the word meant. I guess the patriarchy can always sense when it's being challenged.

[@curiositycloset2359]

Yes, it is a magical animal, much like the unicorn.

[@Dacijo]

The hell are you talking about "I guess the patriarchy can always sense when it's being challenged" What mental bubble are you living in?

[@cyclist68]

The standard left wing one. They remind me of abused wives constantly making excuses for their abuser thinking they can change them

[@Diamondsparkle788]

Men don't like being rejected sexually so yeah they do some men get jelous of lesbians.

[@Josh95x]

She's clearly aware of the worst sides of men and that's probably why she gives the impression that she hates them as a whole. The way she dismisses any concerns men could have is just as bad as those that dismiss women's concerns. Does this podcast ever challenge guests?

[@manniefresh3425]

I would saw she just demonizes everything about men and takes away all autonomy from women. People can’t live in her idea and have freedom of choice cause she’s a purist and believes people, men more than anything, need to live without even having a sexual thought about women

[@rezzob]

what a lovely lady! Ima ire those close to her tremendously enjoy that sweet sweet kind non-judgmental non-entitled attitude! 4min in and everyone else was a bag of shit and she was the best and everyone married and had shitty kids couldn’t raise but she thought there is more to life than “that”! our future is so bright with these type of brains in charge

[@daraghcrowley8435]

Yeah and I really support Julie for calling out the bullshit language used to normalize shitty stuff. Like porn and sex work. There are men oit here who are peoid of our masculinity and also respectful of women and supportive of the work she and others do.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

She's has the most beautiful soul and brave. Doesn't hate men just calls out some of their unacceptable behaviour to women.

[@frankbrennan1619]

Posh people in Darlington? Seriously? Posh people in Darlo? Are you serious? Darlington has posh people?

[@jackmcnally9237]

Ane horsy faced woman conversing wi' a pug !

[@paintitblack6728]

Are you serious Frank ? Yeh in Julie's 17th year of being alive, the late 60's- 70's. grow up.

[@KD-rs6xx]

have another cigarette

[@nickypiccallo]

🙌🏼 JULIE BINDEL for never injustice apologising , 👍 - for speaking honestly. Respect to you Julie Bindel and all of us who sail with her 🥰🙏👍🥰

[@philiplindley7384]

Well, obviously I don't understand feminism and I'm not convinced this woman does either? Sounds like she's FOR everything and also AGAINST everything. Confusing to say the least.

[@paintitblack6728]

So you didn't really listen to the video then, bore off with you incompetency.

[@kevindunne77]

Julie Bindel is not the brightest in the world. I'd honestly would to see her debate Jordan Peterson. He'd wipe the floor with her harder than Cathy Newman.

[@paintitblack6728]

@@kevindunne77 The god botherer that JP is his objectionable religious slant on women and his archaic ideas is repellent and misogynist. He doesn't have a scarick on Bindel you more than likely have not even read any of Bindels books nor have heard her speak over the decades or even know a thing relating to her life,Every thing! The mere fact that JP hasn't been around in these women's issues. What a pathetic comment lol Run along little kevin, go on git !

[@gdr408]

I’m glad I listened to this, Julie strengthened my belief about extreme feminism. I wonder what Julie and other feminists have done to help change the culture of a disenfranchised young boy who grows into a man Edited my choice of phrasing- men v man - since the feminist ideology enjoys generalisations.

[@curiositycloset2359]

Well, they disenfranchised them, so quite a lot.

[@edricawebb1578]

If you're a man concerned with changing the culture of a disenfranchised young boy, you might want to fight for that. Feminism is about centering girls/women.

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@edricawebb1578 how about not fighting for the disenfranchisement of boys, instead? Seems pretty obvious

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Feminism isn't about helping men.

[@curiositycloset2359]

@@ASMRyouVEGANyet Then it's not about equality and has disingenuous roots. I don't care really. Just think you should perhaps realise that you're being brainwashed and controlled, and should really have a bit of a think about feminism, and what it's really about.

[@GoannaUK]

Thanks Julie for a great interview - nothing to disagree with at all, so don't know what anyone is taking issue with. Don't capitulate and don't back down are very important in the current climate of gender identity, Self ID madness.

[@pathfinderfergusfilms6630]

Hmmm!? Concentration camps for men and boys etc! I remember Bindel's final solution....

[@paintitblack6728]

You sound positively burned , run a long now keep going ... yes keep going, run.. further... further more keep going ..

[@pathfinderfergusfilms6630]

@@paintitblack6728 oh... matron...

[@paintitblack6728]

@@pathfinderfergusfilms6630 fantasy of yours. ewww

[@pathfinderfergusfilms6630]

@@paintitblack6728 every day..

[@paintitblack6728]

@@pathfinderfergusfilms6630 when it's all you have.. sad, desperate, lonely, initial comment shows

[@edwardhoulton8725]

Julie Bindel is ok on some points. Btw, Bettys is a lovely place if you like good food and tea or coffee. The fact that she slags it off because… well why does she hate it, its because she thinks only posh people go. Well I ain’t posh and i love the place. The only thing Bindel does is damage the feminist cause. She is right on the trans woman thing though. I expect that is because she is a self confessed man hater.

[@robleahy5759]

She proves she's no philistine by saying she is an opera aficionado... plenty of dough for those flights!

[@Diamondsparkle788]

She doesn't like men for relationships but she isn't a threat to good men. She is a beautiful person who has a pure heart. I think she has male friends but very few.

[@Messier45_Pleiades]

Julie Bindel's early life mirrors mine, except that I grew up in Liverpool.

[@hels4739]

I bet I know exactly which bar in Harrogate ;)

[@jae2686]

Are there no men involved with making laws to protect women or supportive of feminism? Doesn’t sound like Julie Bindel thinks so. I like her story and I admire her courage, but Julie often sounds bigoted herself when it comes to men, not to mention stuck in a time warp. She’s too extreme in her views, lacking much nuance, to fully support. But she sounds like someone who wouldn’t care much for my opinion as a woman anyway.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

What's happening to women is extreme and needs an extreme woman.

[@michaelwebb9939]

I'm a great fan of Julie. More so now.

[@shesalilsapphicokay]

As for her being anti-men... she is for sure anti abusive and murderous men. So I guess, technically, your correct. 😆 Sure, maybe she's a little dismissive of some men's issues, but at the end of the day that's not her remit and she never said it was. I'm really not seeing any bigotry from this woman, at least not in this vid. Men are spicier about women on the regular. Sort yourselves out people. P.S She's bang on about leftist, 'progressive' feminist men. Many of them really hate radfems like Julie, and they love to turn on the misogyny when it comes to them. 🤮

[@spurge83]

No, she has an unhealthy dislike of all men.

[@paintitblack6728]

How true .. Julie Is Strong Smart Intelligent Witty, and a Warrior, for Women We woman stick together I'd Back her any day any misogynist male or female TRA and any disgusting abusive cretin that thinks they can intimidate.

[@arthurdinucci]

Was it Hale's Bar? The gay bar.

[@debs5896]

Watching from NZ where we feminists the real ones!! fight on...please do more for us to watch/learn xxx

[@annetteannette9205]

Well said debs

[@lumpycustard3433]

Abandon the left!

[@Josh95x]

Disregarding men's concerns is just as bad as disregarding women's concerns. Not getting the impression she likes men very much or at least has no empathy for them. Whether that's actually true or not, she will be turning some away from her

[@user-wt3wl3pm6q]

I’m so glad that in the US we have several times the women in high position in government than 50 years ago, in fact three women on the Supreme Court. So now they will overturn that horrible decision 50 years ago by an all male jury.

[@spm36]

Yes one was recently placed there on the merit of her gender and race by an old burbling idiot....what progression eh

[@youtubeyoutube936]

I have almost always disagreed with JB inc today when she said about working g class girls not having opportunities etc what were or are the opportunities for working class council estate livi g boys? But totally support her ref trans debate and it is pathetic that she has been de platform ed

[@leefischer1313]

What an amazing woman!

[@simonclare100]

Hate to tell you Julie, there are good men, good women and both should have equal rights, it's wrong to judge either by the worst of their group, it appears you have a natural bias against men which doesn't help your argument

[@johnreid9959]

When Martha Osamor failed to be selected as the Vauxhall labour candidate in 1989 after twice saying police men Keith Blakelock was a Nazi twice saying a white cop killed him, the locals shouldn’t reveal thd killers thd investigation should be wound up and if wouldn’t be justice to reveal the killers Plus being caught in the fiddle with council expenses Labour MP bernie grant said if black people aren’t allowed to say what they think they will find other physical ways to express their views So if he justified violence ,I take it these fascist loony left councils banning people talking about biology like Julie Bindel should be banned the next step to quote Nigel farage I’d to go for your shot gun?

[@nickypiccallo]

I loved J.Bindel’s comments about Pretty Woman + the never to be sequel. 😁 Most of all as a woman (female adult human) of 6+ decades I agree wholeheartedly with absolutely every word she spoke in this short clip. Julie Bindel I will now research all her words of wisdom on women’s “two steps back, one forward” unfair dilemma in which still us ‘€unt$“ suffer @ the hands of patriarchal 2022.

[@elingrome5853]

Overall I like Julie - but seems to love the sound of her own bigotry at times. She and her social justice leftists helped create this woke monster.

[@paintitblack6728]

Found the one of the several misogynist !

[@carmenspeer7796]

You are grossly misinformed.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

She didn't help create it. How could she when she was busy fighting it?

[@almostafa4725]

@@paintitblack6728 ad hominem attack. Typical

[@paintitblack6728]

@@almostafa4725 do you need a tissue to wipe your dainty tears LMFAO !