Justice League The Snyder Cut Part 2 - Every DCEU Movie Ranked & Reviewed

[@stanco4ever]

My god, Kevin was accidentally on fire this episode. That man is a national - nay, global - treasure

[@itsRecreational]

Kevin usually is pretty good on these. Go watch the Tenet one, he’s spot on.

[@kpaul]

That fucking cookie 😆

[@stanco4ever]

@@itsRecreational saving it for when I have a chance to see the movie. Looking forward to it

[@HypeVectorPrime]

Definitely at least a Peruvian one.

[@alexlawrence6440]

I love that he is almost always actually on this show

[@ConnorCreed3]

Kevin realizing it's Joss not Josh is gonna be the funniest thing I see all day. Edit: I wrote this before I got to the cookie bit. Now that tops the Joss/Josh bit.

[@MikeyA5693]

59:00

[@MatthewNovak]

The Knightmare scene in JL takes place before the Knightmare scene in BvS. Batman has the Joker card on his rifle in BvS.

[@claytonchaffin]

Not sure if Nick knows this, but Snyder has never seen the theatrical cut. That’s probably why he didn’t use anything from the Whedon version.

[@bird2049]

Thats bullshit and everyone knows it.

[@nacthenud]

@@bird2049 it’s really not

[@claytonchaffin]

@@bird2049 Nah man, there’s plenty of interviews of his wife and Christopher Nolan both saying Zack’s never seen it. Even he said he’s never seen it.

[@bombasticgamin8447]

@@bird2049 Yes, because I’m sure some random guy’s opinion is more valuable than what Christopher Nolan and the Snyders have said.

[@sithhunter965]

Bird O why would he watch it, Chris Nolan and Snyder wife told zack not to watch it back in 2017.

[@nobodyexceptme7794]

Lol that beanie makes Tim look like a 35 yr old playing a high school weed dealer. Like he belongs in Jessie Pinkmans crew.

[@itsRecreational]

Definitely looks like badger lol

[@RumbleBee1102]

I can't believe you guys skipped over Cyborg's best moment when he's inside the unity and it's trying to convert him "I'm not broken...... and I'm not alone" Very powerful and the point of his arc in the movie.

[@keithr3771]

@@DrowsyMongoose I didn't expect him to be the main character of this movie and even more surprising is how well it worked.

[@CRod840]

I know right? That’s a huge character moment for him. Can’t believe they missed it

[@Nbz0]

I feel like they skipped over a lot of what made the movie special.

[@kylemelendez358]

Yea this second half of in review was incredibly disappointing to me cuz of missed conversations on things like this moment. Shame cuz youd think Greg would detail absolutely everything after waiting for this for years.

[@sithhunter965]

You only get to be critical about plot and info that happened in the movie WHEN you get the facts correct. Otherwise you are just using ur false info to make bad opinions. Looking at everybody here except Greg.

[@bobbyjoe8709]

In Man of Steel the whole world figures out that Superman’s name is Kal El

[@frijolejuice23]

Zod announced his name to the entire world in MoS, so she probably knows from that. I assume she would prefer to call him by his given name than “Superman.” She doesn’t know he’s Clark until after he dies.

[@lexis4490]

Plus Batman knew. So I assume they talked.

[@nicholaschambers342]

was screaming this

[@avd_designs_]

I honestly love the flash’s parts in this movie, they finally gave him character

[@lex_rodriguez]

They took away his character. They just gave him cooler moments that aren't earned.

[@tristanmayer5373]

I genuinely think if you're confused by the nightmare scenes you need to stick with Fast and Furious

[@Kanyeweast2020]

I was thinking this comment. Like this version of the film literally spoon feeds and explains everything. How much hand holding do you need.

[@tristanmayer5373]

@@Kanyeweast2020 I totally get not liking the tone or the style of Snyder's movies. But it feels like a lot people who hate these particular movies talk both ways. They'll say Snyder is all style and has no subtlety and then they'll say it's too confusing and totally miss the point of scenes. Were they even watching?

[@Kanyeweast2020]

100% agree. It’s okay to be critical and have an opinion. I think the problem is they watch the movie, and instead of just enjoying it for what it is. They are constantly analyzing things that don’t really matter asking themselves constantly “do I like this?” Thus complaining and wondering why they don’t understand and missed something. They say a lot of “this is really cool, BUT” that says it all right there. They are literally looking for reasons to not like it and think it’s cool and nitpick. 4 hour movie not a movie? They need to watch more movies. Someone even said they wish they would cut this version down, when they previously complained things didn’t make sense. It didn’t make sense to you and you wanna cut it down more? Now That doesn’t make sense, they are just way to critical of literally everything haha anyways, glad you enjoyed it too homie 👏👏👏 more fun for us.

[@MrBetterdayz02]

Right!? Like I get not liking the movie as a whole and simply not vibing with what Snyder was trying to do, but this movie was not confusing at all everything is explained within the 4 hours if you actually watch.

[@bradyb9439]

Yeah it wasn’t confusing at all. However the placement as the end of the film was kinda strange especially after the Lex Luthor Deathstroke scene. It probably should have been a post credit scene. Instead of the actual ending for the movie.

[@MikeHeldTheWorld]

Tim in nutshell: "This is pretty cool, but it's not Marvel or Fast and Furious, so it's overly complex and lame."

[@mutedmayday]

Yea that's Tim's problem in these reviews

[@anom6707]

Lol yeah he's fine with whatever marvel or fast and furious do, but nitpicks other movies.

[@godspeed9216]

I sense a little bias but I dont blame him. Mcu is killin it

[@adammcguire8936]

“This movie is too complex for me.” Really sums it up for Tim

[@gwynbell]

I don't get what Tim's problems was about the timelines lmao

[@damiwk]

Tim doesn't get what his problem is either...

[@Alex_Logan22]

Watching Tim and Nick have a hard time discerning if it’s a good movie or not is proof that they should’ve watched/review in one sitting.

[@AloisWeimar]

Corpses, Corpses with Kev ... Kev- “Don’t check my basement”

[@dhruvdandekar2985]

Don't double down Nicholas

[@Tsweezey90]

It's so crazy that I love these guys so much but literally hate their rankings of pretty much every franchise they've done. Like sometimes I don't even know if they like movies haha

[@ALL-rf9gl]

@@Nbz0 Big Facts

[@Hs022]

@@Nbz0 Nice to insult someone’s intelligence because they don’t agree with you.

[@mecharobots]

THE ACES ARE WILD !!! LETS GO BABY!!!

[@vinnybastos]

Did they win?

[@YounusNobi]

@@vinnybastos They are Champions !

[@dageekynerd2898]

I’m a Marvel guy so all the DCEU slander is funny AF. But even I know everyone knows Superman’s name is Kal-El from Zod’s message in MOS right?

[@stepkickking9868]

“Faith, Alfred. Faith.” I love Batfleck’s character arc from Batman vs Superman to Justice League. In BvS, he was broken, hateful, and alone. But, Superman’s sacrifice showed him that there’s still good in the world. In Justice League, he’s rejuvenated and enjoys the company of others. He believes in the team, the people around him, he cares for all of them. The final scene with Bruce standing outside, smiling and looking at the sunset, that was brilliant. He knew his parents were proud of him, and he finally found peace.

[@ghjhty7]

That flash moment was fucking epic! One of the best in my opinion 🤷🏽‍♂️ I loved the not impressed line! We are on way different ends of the spectrum! 🤣

[@mrmalco6488]

Wholeheartedly agree

[@bombasticgamin8447]

Yup, the visuals and music were great! Don’t know why Tim didn’t like it. That is literally what the Flash does.

[@mutedmayday]

@@bombasticgamin8447 it's Tim we're talking about

[@bombasticgamin8447]

@@mutedmayday Is it just me or does Tim seem angry when talking about this movie? He was definitely angry in the part 1 review and he still seems angry. Does he hate the Snyder Cut that much?

[@mutedmayday]

@@bombasticgamin8447 I have no idea lol

[@IainWhoCantSleep]

It feels like these guys didn’t give this film a chance... except greg. The criticisms are so obviously wrong... if you watched this review parts 1 and 2 and then turned the film on you’d be so at odds with what you expected. Genuinely the worst review you guys have done. This film wasn’t hard to grasp but it seems like 4 out of the 5 of you were left behind by it.

[@bombasticgamin8447]

I agree with you. It seems everyone except Greg went into the movie wanting to hate it rather than with an open mind. Especially Tim, who thinks this movie is too complex and too simple yet loves the Fast and Furious movies.

[@reflectionist]

1:22:14 - Everybody on the planet knows his name is Kal-El. You are not alone. My name is General Zod. I come from a world far from yours. I have journeyed across an ocean of stars to reach you. For some time, your world has sheltered one of my citizens. I request that you return this individual to my custody. For reasons unknown, he has chosen to keep his existence a secret from you. He will have made efforts to blend in. He will look like you. But he is not one of you. To those of you who know of his current location, the fate of your planet rests in your hands. To *Kal-El* I say this: Surrender within twenty four hours. Or watch this world suffer the consequences.

[@TheMiloDavis]

Nick and Tim coming in hot with some terrible takes lmao

[@Hessianoct]

Nothing new

[@benmartinez5999]

If it was Marvel’s Snyder Cut they would be saying it’s perfect. Hard to take them seriously especially with Nick talking like he would do a better job.

[@AloisWeimar]

Nick and Tim will stumble, they will fall but in time they will join Greg in the sun

[@sithhunter965]

Well go back to pre Snyder release and they both said there's no way the movie would be good.

[@patriots234]

Lmao at Greg “that’s why I voted for years to get you off in review” 😂😂😂😂

[@aoe41015]

Y’all throw some disrespect on that flash scene. Now I don’t know if it’s because you can’t empathise or you’re trying to be funny? But the scenes with Barry and his dad, cyborg and his father are some of the most heartening and emotional beats of this movie and you just had me feeling like you didn’t appreciate it or acknowledge their importance. Barry’s line delivery was to his dad, essentially telling him that he was one of the most important and heroic people on the planet when he left him in prison thinking he had believed Barry to be wasting his life.

[@chriscampbell3583]

If this happened in an mcu movie theyd be swooning at how emotional and heart wearming it was

[@aoe41015]

@@chriscampbell3583 I have never really been a fan of the flash, I don’t like the series, but I resonated with cyborg with his dad, you don’t have to like the guy, but the love will always be there in some part. And the flash scene really spoke to me as a son trying to prove himself to his dad. I’m not using this as an attack on the guys, I love the reviews and the podcasts, but the reviews lack consistency sometimes if they o in not having a fondness for the material.

[@chriscampbell3583]

@@aoe41015 i agree, i love the reviews but it feels like they have come to love the mcu so much that when a superhero movie doesnt follow the same format they automatically dislike it when they are very similar movies at the end of the day

[@arijmir2048]

Can’t wait to have them nitpick this part of the movie to death lol

[@tristanmayer5373]

You'd swear half the panel was shitfaced when they watched it and didn't pay attention

[@CixXxCuzzo]

"One Flash Rule": he's so powerful already that he gives himself a rule to keep himself in check essentially. "Lois is the key": she's the key to Superman being in contact/relation to humanity ala Dr. Manhattan/Silk Spectre. Once she's removed from the "equation" Superman is more susceptible. That's how i see it. "Cyborg Knightmare": is basically flashing forward through the timeline that confirms that if they go through with this (resurrecting Supes) this is the endgame, no pun intended . "WW calling him Kal-El": goes back to Zod's message that was streamed across the world, the message took over all rss feeds, tv and wifi signals, so it's safe to assume wherever Diana was at that time, she saw the message and heard Zod call him "Kal-El"

[@gavindecroce9168]

Fun fact for Ezra Miller in the Knightmare scene: he actually was on zoom with Zack telling him what to do, and he shot his part on the set of Fantastic Beasts 3

[@stepkickking9868]

For me personally, Snyder’s Justice League is easily my favourite movie in the DCEU. I think it’s the perfect blend of light hearted fun, and darker storytelling that Zack previously established in MoS and BvS. It’s funny because when BvS originally released, I didn’t enjoy it because it wasn’t like the MCU. But now that I’m older, I really appreciate these movies more, along with the world and characters Zack built. I’d love to see a sequel, and the SnyderVerse restored.

[@kilodi]

getting old has nothing to do with liking or disliking BvS, I think everyone would have loved it if they had spent some time on their relationships, Batman's motivations on just trying to kill everything in sight including Superman, even the mothers link maybe drawn some parallels. Who knows these parts may have been also been cut just like JL, as BvS stands today it is a mess but Snyder's cut proves there was lot of potential and lot of studio influence throughout the series.

[@WhatsBiggin]

@@kilodi How the fuck are you going to try to correct someone’s journey with these films. He said what he said? And there are many like him.

[@jamesrrbaker9564]

like it’s ok but literally WB just have to remake the live Action DCAU Starting with Flash Point and you have your Gritty Dark feel with character arch’s and Amazing stories that Honestly gots a better track record then the MCU

[@marzero116]

In Snyders leaked full story that Tim mentioned, Louis was pregnant with Bruces baby, not Clarks. Snyder is a lunatic.

[@mr88nyc]

The scenes with Flash and his dad were so good. They have fantastic chemistry.

[@davantevids]

Glad Nick got to cover that fucking land mass of a back that Cavill has because holy shit

[@AlexRider589]

The way Tim couldn't fathom the concept of respect....... ? 28:56

[@anom6707]

I love how a second later greg's pissed off he's like "you can freak out all you want but it was a matter of respect". Tim's just freaking out for the sake of freaking out

[@nicholasbolgioni]

How do you not understand that when flash and cyborg are digging up supes it is CLEARLY out of respect. Like, what? What other reasoning would you even want?

[@contreezy7287]

Tim is such a haterrrrrr lmao was he personally attacked by this movie? Or is it the emo cosplay outfit? 😅

[@skthechef8075]

Gal Gadot easily had the most screen time and badass moments. I'm ok with that, she's dope af.

[@jaysauce13]

That send-off to Steppenwolf and gift to Darkseid was sick!!!

[@arijmir2048]

Tim is beyond annoying in his criticism and latches onto really tiny details to make his points, if marvel were to follow the same beats, he wouldn’t have a problem with it and wouldn’t even acknowledge it.

[@kylemelendez358]

The flash scene in the end is everything i could have ever wanted from this snyder cut. I will watch that scene over and over forever even tho it was not earned.

[@WhatsBiggin]

How is it not earned?

[@kylemelendez358]

@@WhatsBiggin i believe it would have been infinitely better scene if weve seen flash in a solo movie(and also aquaman and cyborg) and set more of what their powers are and stuff. So i guess im saying the while movie really isnt earned but i still enjoy it

[@jaysauce13]

@@kylemelendez358 he was supposed to.have his own movie by now which would have explained and fleshed his powers out further. It really is a shame now after seeing how WB dismantled the entire cinematic universe of these movies after the Fallout of BvS. I believe letting them play out would've worked out in the end then what we have now

[@kylemelendez358]

@@jaysauce13 yea i believe everything would have worked out too. To me they decided to pivot just because they werent seeing MCU success, which just isnt a fair evaluation. I didnt love any of the DC movies so far but what i did love about them was they were their own identity with being more adult oriented and stuff like that. As soon as they started trying to copy and paste a MCU type movie starting with this theatrical release ive had very little interest in them. The only DC movies since that i like are Shazam and Birds of Prey. I hope this is a wake up call to do their own thing and if that means your in second place then thats ok.

[@shamnarayan9582]

Only Greg gets it. Sigh.

[@taylorjack2130]

I JUST finished the film. I fucking loved it. As someone who couldn’t even finish the joss whedon justice league I cannot believe how much I loved this and how much it actually hit in ways I didn’t expect, beautiful stuff

[@taylorjack2130]

Also disclaimer I haven’t really seen much of the DCEU. BvS was fine I couldn’t finish Wonder Woman or aquaman either as it’s far too generic for me but this just felt different. It had heart and vision and came from a place of actual care, loved it.

[@WhatsBiggin]

Greg is whooping y’all ass this episode! 😂 It pays to pay attention.

[@lexis4490]

If the movie is boring, it’s hard to pay attention.

[@kerrodjohnson5098]

As a Marvel fan myself, it upsets me when people like Tim shit on DC films like this. Its quite evident that he just doesn't enjoy DC stories but that doesn't mean the film isn't good. Is it the kind of story I wanted? Hell no, but I can put my hand on my heart and honestly say this movie was great.

[@MikeyA5693]

But he liked it

[@bombasticgamin8447]

@@MikeyA5693 The way he talks about the movie and constantly disses it does not give the impression that he likes the film.

[@kerrodjohnson5098]

@@MikeyA5693 whenever he doesn't understand something he shits on it. He either needs to watch with subtitles on, or do some research like all us other non experts do instead of just saying its bad or whatever. Multiple times throughout this review he says something is stupid just because he didn't understand it.

[@MikeyA5693]

@@bombasticgamin8447 everybody was making critiques of this film. Some people just don't like it when others have different takes that opposes their own.

[@MikeyA5693]

@@kerrodjohnson5098 if you need to do research to enjoy a movie then majority of the time its not gonna be a good movie. BTW i love this movie.

[@Baytuh]

Still no one is dressed in their DC costume?!? I'm not amused.

[@MrJellyton]

"Not impressed."

[@teamhyper2698]

@@MrJellyton not bovvered*

[@gabriellopez8751]

I've been a fan of KF for years now and I have never, EVER laughed as hard and uncontrollably for as long as I have when Kevin pulled out that cookie. Thank you for keeping my spirits up I needed that

[@LitoLarj]

And for the record the congratulations is about the baby because you see Lois Lane holding a baby bassinet when she’s walking into the house with Martha as opposed to the Joss Whedon cut where she’s just holding a box

[@austinkeller7171]

There's also the pregnancy test in the bedside table

[@anom6707]

"how is lois lane the key?" does that really need to be explained when you've watched bvs and this movie?

[@lexis4490]

I honestly don’t think has played out yet. I think that gets played pit in the sequel that won’t happen.

[@anom6707]

@@lexis4490 It hasn't played out in its entirety, but you know what it means if you've watched even bvs by itself. You know enough to know its significance.

[@Kmaitland89]

No, the JOKER kills lewis and that's why superman blames batman, for not stopping the Joker.

[@MatthewNovak]

I’ve seen it twice now and still love it. The Batman/Joker interaction is so damn good

[@stepkickking9868]

I loved it too. My friend was unsure about Bruce dropping an F-Bomb because he thought it was too “edgy”. But personally, I think it emphasises just how far gone Bruce is, and how much he wants to kill the Joker (but ultimately, can’t). I think he’s more annoyed at himself in that moment, than he is at Joker.

[@MatthewNovak]

@@stepkickking9868 I didn’t think much about him swearing at all. It didn’t bother me. The way that Joker knew Bruce would never kill him is what made the scene for me.

[@ThatsHipHop4Yaaa]

To me Bruce has always been one of those people who when they curse, they mean it.

[@War624]

@@stepkickking9868 It did feel a little forced to me, the F bomb I mean. Batman does curse, but it usually just an occasional "damn". Was just a little jarring.

[@wb8905]

Nah, it’s lame as fuck to be honest.

[@Ragucci25]

Really disappointed with the format of this review and the discussion.

[@matthews1983]

I cant believe you have birds of prey number 1 that movie was god awful 😂

[@stubbywankenobi1]

All of Tim’s and Kevin’s complaints boil down to “movie long me confused”

[@stubbywankenobi1]

Do you not understand boiled down

[@DREDALGO]

If it's not fast nor furious Tim will not like it superheroes is just not his thing at least from the DC side because Marvel makes their movies accessible to all comers

[@ThatsHipHop4Yaaa]

Tim and Nicks opinions are fine whatever, their entitled too their own. But I would like if you guys would keep this same energy towards DC films with Marvel films. I love the MCU but let’s not act like the MCU doesn’t have some of the same problems the DCEU have. The only person whose been pretty consistent in that regard has been Nick. Tim usually glosses over a lot of MCU problems aside from Avengers Age of Ultron. I would really love for someone too explain how this movie is too complex. Almost every question you have is answered. They leave the Knightmare stuff a bit up in the air because I would assume if they didn’t want too go in that direction they’d have an easy out by saying it was just a dream. Also saying that the problem with Flash is that he runs faster is a bit redundant since that’s kind of Flash’s thing. In order to rewind time he needs to run faster.

[@sithhunter965]

Birds of prey at number 1. Bahaha I just lost all respect I had for your movie opinions, not that I had much respect after listening to this review and how u butcher the facts to form ur false opinions.

[@brandorobot]

I miss Nick not having his own show. Listening to him critique shots of shows and movies makes me want to not like him and I want the funny Nick back.

[@jasonc2341]

Remember the God aweful mouth that went with the truth line.

[@KongisMyDog]

"Doomsday come, me wanna go home." I was crying from laughing so hard at that stupid joke. 🤣🤣

[@tristanmayer5373]

People really like the "big fan of truth" line? It's worse than the writing in Superman The Animated Series.

[@nighttrain5006]

i still cant believe BvS is so high but a lot of these movies are kinda trash lol

[@StanleySThomas]

So glad that Zack Snyder’s Justice league is being received so well by so many. Current sitting at 96% audience score on RT and 8.3/10 on IMDB!! The ironic thing is that the jokes landed better in Zack Snyder’s version than in Joss’s which was cut, reshot, and rewritten to be “funnier” Also each character is integral and brought something of value to the team in ZSJL. Meanwhile Joss’s flash was sent on a side mission to rescue a random family...and Batman is useless in the final battle.

[@TheAlphaDingo]

Is Birds of Prey ranked 1 as a troll/joke? Surely should be dead last lol

[@ryangt47]

An explanation for why Wonder Woman calls Superman as Kal-El is probably because when Zod and his army came to Earth in MoS, he told everyone on Earth that he was searching for Kal-El. So, before WW knew that Superman was Clark Kent, she knew him as Kal-El.

[@WhatsBiggin]

Also...Lasso of Hestia. Lol

[@tjppercussion]

"IT'S JOSS?"

[@JonBeanVOD]

I love you Tim but you’re getting way too hung up on a dream sequence 😂.

[@MRBarton369]

@ 1:00:57 i watched Tim laugh at Kevin's cookie monologue at least 50 times...I just wanna shout out..

[@darrickbeitinger7664]

Can we talk about Andy getting caught off guard being asked to do Haiku in Review EVERY SINGLE THING!?

[@Seanopp7]

Tim is right. This movie still sucks.

[@Libizz]

"Epilogue was just used to setup the next movie" Well... Yes? Don't understand the criticism towards the epilogue while at the same time always being stoked about the end credit scenes in MCU -movies. This is infinitely better than any of those scenes.

[@graememowat2322]

Nick: 'It would have been good if that actually played out, and then the next movie could have been them going back in time and trying to fix that'... So Endgame...

[@anthonyblacknalljr.7574]

I think people are forgetting that this is not a theatrical cut and a directors cut. I’m sure if Zack Snyder was to make this a theatrical cut then it would be more concise. That’s why the four hours doesn’t bother me

[@thecoolblacknerd]

@ 15:15 it’s not a dream Bruce said he had referring to “Batman V Superman” he told Wonder Women he had a “premonition” big difference fellas

[@LandonBarton]

I actually prefer Lois not being a part of Batman’s plan. It gives her agency, and we establish in the first half why she is going there daily anyways so it’s also in context and less “convenience.” Being a part of Batman’s plan isn’t bad necessarily, it’s neat to always see Batman’s contingency plan, but I do enjoy giving Lois her agency back.

[@joshuavelo4265]

But she only goes because she's sort of tricked/convinced by Martian Manhunter, who for some unknown reason is either aware of what the Justice League has planned or is just really invested in Lois visiting her dead bfs memorial. She really just ends up there accidentally - there's no real choice or major decision other than to continue to mourn and being lucky.

[@jaysauce13]

@@joshuavelo4265 she shows up there every day and that was established. How is that convenient? It's a thing she does EVERY DAY lol I swear some of you guys nitpick the hell out of these movies there is plenty of bullsh*t in the MCU too if you really break it down

[@joshuavelo4265]

@@jaysauce13 sure, but she had decided to stop going. Why did Manhunter tell her to keep going? Its not Lois that is strange, it's Manhunter. His actions and involvement makes 0 sense and ultimately ruins a rather nice scene between Martha and Lois. Also, the point was it restores Lois' agency, but again, she only arrives on the scene because of someone elses influence, just like if Batman brought her as a "weapon" in the cinematic cut. I don't think either one really gives Lois agency. She's just a tool for Superman's progress in either cut. Why bring up the MCU? The mcu has plenty of issues and several films I genuinely don't care for. But this discussion is not about that.

[@MattDeathStroke]

@@joshuavelo4265 Martian Manhunter did not tell Lois to go to the memorial, he encouraged her to go back to work, move through her grief by coming back into the world and being among others instead of sitting at home holding Clark's cape. That's why she grabs her press pass from the drawer. She chose to go to the memorial on her own. She tells the officer, "One last time," because she's planning to say goodbye to Clark in her own way. She goes there every day just to be reminded of him, but this was going to be her last visit, where she'd say goodbye and move on, go back to work. Martian Manhunter did not trick her into going that day, she went on her own.

[@mr88nyc]

Joshua Velo One of Manhunter’s powers is precognition so his involvement makes complete sense. He has already seen the bad future and is probably trying to prevent it or at least help them prepare for it.

[@HypeVectorPrime]

According to Snyder apparently batman was treating Robin like a kid and so Robin got a complex about it and to prove himself went to try and take on joker and got himself killed and joker destroyed Wayne manor. This is why bats is unhinged and explains the manor and Robin's suit in BvS.

[@shawnkelveyjr9736]

#restoretheSnyderVerse

[@reubenpena9999]

Its a little weird some of them complained about the Flash scenes, flash was awesome in this movie. I totally enjoy how in the beginning he seems a little unsure of himself and at the end he saves the day and we have that scene with him running in the city with a smile on his face. Really enjoyed his place in the movie and didn't think it too much for this movie as a whole. The nightmare scene I agree doesnt really mesh well with the rest of the movie, however I don't know if that scene was meant to be in the movie initially. I was under the impression it was added after the snyder cut was announced. Either way, don't really see why we should complain about more movie. I'd say it would be more of an issue if we had more nightmare scenes sprinkled inside the movie, that would be cutting into the main story and be distracting. Regardless...seeing the justice league chop off Stephenwolfs head and it spilling on the floor by DarkSieds feet was insane! total hype.

[@CoNiCuZn]

It's pretty clear why they don't like his scenes. It's because he's not funny, none of his jokes land.

[@HypeVectorPrime]

In the MCU they traveled to different points in the multiverse, the ancient one explains this. In DC there is a multiverse exactly in the same way, but when the flash does his thing he actually alters time across a single reality like in back to the future or bill and ted, where in itself time travel is a paradox. if one will ever go back in time then they already have. Of course the only one's in DC who are really aware of this paradox are the speedsters themselves (and the time wraiths) so in this case Barry remains aware of the changes to the timeline but nobody else is. This means that his one rule exists because he has already fucked up the timeline before, this is made clear by the scene where he meets iris in which he seems to already know her even though they have never met.

[@happenstanceuk]

I didn't enjoy the movie (although probably more than I did the Whedon version) but Tim has always had a weird hangup on the Knightmare flashforward stuff and he's carried that into his opinions on this version as well even though it pretty much explains everything.

[@bird2049]

The knightmare stuff doesn't make sense continuity wise, putting future sequences in the past ones feels jarring, unexplained, and confusing. I mean Harry Potter did this stuff right in one movie its not that hard of concept to execute.

[@bombasticgamin8447]

@@bird2049 You love to nitpick don’t you? Complaining about what order future knightmare visions are in.

[@bird2049]

@@bombasticgamin8447 Its not a nitpick it just doesn't make sense, at this point we don't even know if its real or just a dream or whatever.

[@coronaivan84]

Seems like only Greg watched the movie.

[@mullaoslo]

This movie isn't great.. It's damn near a masterpiece Greg you need more dc people on the podcast who understands the smaller things so you can talk properly about them.. These guys are laughing past stuff that 100% made sense in the movie because they still compare it to the dark Knight

[@chair66687]

To explain the timeliness stuff my read of it was that the BVS Knightmare scene and the vision Cyborg has happen on the same time line where Berry doesn't reverse time and stop the unity , and then the epilogue happens in the time line where berry did reverse time but Darkseid invaded using the old ways

[@stubbywankenobi1]

I saw it as both Bruce and Cyborg have had contact with Barry during or after time travel so they have a time residue like affect were they get glimpses of possible futures but not necessarily the real future

[@MrNicktkh]

Shazam should be number one

[@OKG2000]

You guys are too funny ''The Ships like dont do it!! Aquaman is like dont do it bad idea!! but Cyborg is like fuckkkk off!! im gonna do it i can launch nukes!!'' roflll he didnt say that

[@The_Bug0222]

Bruh 🙄🙄🙄 Tim needs to get tf over the “this quickly... 3 movie” bullshit. The MCU way is not the ONLY way to tell a damn story. Plus, they introduced all the mainstream Guardians of the Galaxy players in their first movie. Get. Over. It.

[@nicholaschambers342]

isn't one of the only reasons superman didn't run through doomsday because he had just been walloped with kryptonite by batman. My interpretation had always been that this was why batman had so much guilt over his death. And that supes probably could've handled him had that not been the case.

[@MrBetterdayz02]

Is Nick purposefully playing dumb asking about Bruce’s dream? That scene wasn’t confusing in the slightest..

[@TheAndyCortez]

i understood what he meant. i wondered the same thing. the way it's shot and they way he explains it to WW, it seems like Bruce Wayne had *just* woken up from having the dream as opposed to explaining a dream from BvS.

[@MrBetterdayz02]

@@TheAndyCortez Fair enough, I think for a lot of us we remembered the bvs stuff and obviously not gonna blame anyone for not wanting to revisit it so some details like that might be missed

[@anom6707]

it really wasn't, i feel like if you just put two and two together "last movie, batman had flash dream, batman talks about that dream in this movie", its really not that hard to grasp.

[@jonzie24]

When you talked about restoring the Ayer Cut, I was like 'What about Wonder Woman 1984'? When it was first pre-screened to the audience like 1.5 years ago supposedly it was good. But WB execs didn't like some of it and did the reshoots. After a second pre-screening, people did not like it at all, and that is the version we ended up with...

[@Alex_Logan22]

Completely overlooked how the mother boxes used Victor’s weaknesses against him and how he had to overcome his whole arc in order to save the day. That’s why Aquaman showed concern for him earlier, knowing he was going to be put in a tough spot right after losing his dad. It was just as much of a climax as Flash’s rewind (plus it was actually built up better unlike Flash’s dad), and they happened back to back from each other.

[@rcb304]

Left you guys years ago, came back for this react for Greg. And I’m gone again

[@TopGun1232009]

Birds of prey is as bad as suicide squad

[@Garotte14]

It’s dogshit awful.

[@HypeVectorPrime]

Lex Luthor did not get his information from Steppenwolf, he used kryptonite to cut off Zod's fingerprints and used them to access the Kryptonian archives. He wasn't even made aware of Steppenwolf until the end of BvS

[@lexis4490]

So how did even have the idea to build Doomsday monster in B vs S? I thought that was part of Strppenwolf’s plan?

[@HypeVectorPrime]

@@lexis4490 Lex's whole motivation was that he saw superman as a sin. As he put it if god is all powerful then he cannot be all good, and if he was all good he could not be all powerful. He just wanted to expose superman as a false god. He created doomsday only after speaking with the archive and was more or less just a plan B and/or possibly to wipe the other metahumans once batman killed superman. Lex believed he could control doomsday.

[@RumbleBee1102]

I love how Tim is out here bitching about how confusing the knightmare scene and stuff is here (it's not), but then he's like "they should have just started with the injustice and apocalypse movie with an already formed JL" Like respectfully Tim..... f**k off You would've bitches about that too. This is a better setup with the team forming, leading into what's to come. Still love you guys

[@lexis4490]

I understand what he is saying because for one, we are not going to get that nightmare movie even though it looks like an interesting world and something no comic book movie has ever done. Many movies setup several characters without their own movies and they make their characters interesting and story great. God father did a great job doing that. So it’s not crazy comic book movies to do the same. And WB wants to do a multiverse anyways. If Snyderverse was setup as not cannon or a main story, o think we could of gotten more of wild stuff he wanted to do. Snyder literally wanted to make Superman kid the next Batman. He could of done it, if the audience knows that’s what we are end for.

[@alexdavis3466]

I don’t think telling someone to F off is ever respectfully..like, he has an opinion. Chill.

[@aWorthlessLiar]

The best sign to me that I really like Snyder's Trilogy more and more is that with Justice League I have so much urge to rewatch it and it makes me want to rewatch all of them. (Though idk why they thought wonder woman's theme was a good idea lol) I'm with Greg that these are the ways I would have told the stories but that doesn't mean I can't like them. Really interested how Flashpoint will be. He was definitely my favorite part of this cut.

[@xArachnidz]

Love you guys, but some of the hangups you have are easily explained in the movie, it is not that complex of a movie, not a masterpiece by an strech but deffo better than a lot of the lower tie MCU and Id say it sits in the lower middle of those films imo.

[@MrDrasen23]

Yes there was supposed bro be 5 movies.

[@AJHawke]

Was I the only one who got excited when Flash mentions he knows GORILLA sign language?? Snyder is a little up his own ass sure but I love that he is a comic book fan

[@King_Platanero]

This came in clutch on my 4 hour drive today. Thanks for the content

[@TheAndyCortez]

thanks for watching!

[@HusslerkiD]

Great stuff, love in review. This movie is definitely better than the theatrical imo. I think with editing there's a good movie in there. my issue with snyder is i wish he had someone to rein him in as he has some great ideas and i always feel there's a great movie somewhere inside his good/mediocre ones, a la Man of Steel. Agree with Greg, the Knightmare stuff i actually really enjoyed. I would be interested to see where it goes. But it all just makes me appreciate the MCU more

[@estebanarriaga8201]

Nah nick I'm sorry man that superman line from 2017 was hot garbage

[@enniopp]

Absolutely, everything that Whedon did is garbage but Nick keeps saying that he did better things, as always his ego wins.

[@estebanarriaga8201]

@@enniopp I get where you're coming from. I wouldn't go as far as talk about Nick's ego but what I will say, is that I feel like there's no attempt to analyze how zack has developed these characters. Superman for example just wouldn't say what he said in the 2017 version. Superman has a 3 movie arc that speaks more on an individual coming to terms with his existence and wrestling with his humanity and being a God. Zack envisions these heroes as gods among men. It is awesome to finally see Superman accept that he has a place in earth and his 2 dad's telling him to let go and assume what he was meant to be.....hope. it's just really beautiful. And this I stand for justice crap is on the nose cringe. Superman just wouldn't say that, atleast not this version. I get it I love the reeves version of superman that isn't what this is. In the end I believe that Zack had much more respect for these characters. WB made a mistake and hired joss to cut this movie down without considering the integrity of the film. They paid for that it was a huge failure.

[@enniopp]

@@estebanarriaga8201 Everthing you said was spot on, I agree 100%. What I said about his ego is because he keeps doing the same thing in every review, he always thinks that he would make any scene better and hates just to hate.

[@matthewternullo3064]

I actually miss when andy would just sing the songs instead of playing the music as well XD. I thought those were really good without the music lol