Is Citizen Better Than Seiko In 2024? Citizen Forza Review

[@Tyrone2714]

Citizen have been on a roll recently, imo it looks better than both the seiko and the tissot and it's cheaper

[@frankdirscherl2345]

Tissot is better, but Citizen beats Seiko hands down.

[@deshik]

Nothing beats seiko Not even Tissot

[@vipnetworker]

I have 4 Seikos and 1 Tissot. I love all my Seiko watches, but if I could keep only one, I'd pick my Tissot over my Seikos or a Citizen. My Seikos: Sarb033 Cocktail Time (Ice Blue) 5KX (with custom bezel) SNKL23 My Tissot: Gentlemen Powermatic (Blue dial)

[@frankdirscherl2345]

@@deshik 😂🤣 yeah nah.

[@wermissam1239]

Always have

[@nedflanders3769]

Definitely not too big for your wrist, Jody. Looks good on ya, brother.

[@SilentCanary]

Citizen is great! I think they’re just getting started!

[@sweetcorn1968]

Citizen have definitely upped their game recently, and it shows. There's still room for improvement, so let's hope they listen to the feedback.

[@somebodyelse5]

Biggest complaint has been the bracelets...otherwise, they are doing great

[@steveb4012]

Well done Jodie and well done Citizen. My oldest Citizen, a BM6400 is still going strong and is 15 years old now. I have six Citizen s and my teenage son has two. All are faultless, so God to see the brand getting some recognition.

[@sotecluxan4221]

@@steveb4012 Have an Indian Seiko licence built, 25yrs. Company Allwyn closed down, ~900 ppl pink-slipped. ~1998.

[@steveb4012]

@sotecluxan4221 I have a Quartz OMEGA SMP bought in 2006, it's just needed a battery now and then ( albeit, not cheap!) I also have an Auto Planet Ocean. It's broken down a few times and needed major servicing. 6 Citizens just keep ticking...

[@calnative4904]

I’ve been a huge fan of Citizen since I bought the original Orca years ago. It is still running strong with no issues. I really love their dive watches and have numerous.

[@SingleTrackMined]

Beautiful chronograph! Citizen doesn't take a back seat to anyone in their price ranges. They make the most accurate watch. They make the best solar. They make great automatic movements via Miyota. I have an Eco-Drive and it is a nearly perfect watch. Citizen - for those who know. Cheers!

[@SingleTrackMined]

@@AutieTortie Why? Why? Why? Citizen make the best solar.

[@MosheFeder]

I laughed out loud when I saw your preview thumbnail. I’ve been really pleased with my first Citizen (the entrancing NB1060-12L) and a new Tsuyosa that also has a striking dial should arrive any time now. I'm intrigued by the Forza line because of the impressively polished titanium and I hope to get one at some point.

[@KrystianWlr]

I bought the normal one with a green dial. Different league, than any of my Seikos. Titanium is awesome. This is the first time I've experienced having a full titanium watch and I have to say, that I can't imagine going back to stainless steel from now on.

[@5ifty_cow997]

I love my Erebus Origin 38. FANTASTIC watch. Glad i went with the pink dail, its so bright its amazing.

[@davidrosenblum2178]

Citizen shows everyone else how consistently the second hand can hit the indices and I love it! Looking forward to you getting hold of one of the new Seiko Pogues... Cheers!

[@loganpierce9244]

You bring joy to so many people; not to mention but I will, your honest critique and views on old and new watches. Thanks from Texas.!!!!

[@johanvandersandt8904]

Short answer...Yes. Long answer... Yessssssssssssssssssssss!

[@MichaelandCathy1999]

I’m wearing my Citizen Blue Angels Special Edition, with EcoDrive, and it’s my everyday watch and gets plenty of compliments on its looks, but I know it’s better than just looks. 👍🇨🇦

[@unattributed1641]

I know I'ma bit late here, but there is something big worth mentioning: if you buy from Citizen directly you can specify your wrist measurement and get a band that fits perfectly. And there is no extra charge. That should alleviate your niggle about the adjustability of the band.

[@roamready9732]

A pressed titanium clasp is actually kind of an engineering feat. It might be old tech but pressing titanium vs steel is still challenging. My only gripe is the lack of on-the-fly adjustment.

[@xBonyKnees]

love citizen watches and love Eco-Drive even more! Thanks for showing this model off. I am always looking for another Eco-Drive to add to the collection or gift to someone. Its such a durable movement and you can basically set and forget. I do wish it was 38-40mm though ..

[@hootonhoot]

Forza tree hander is only 39mm - wears fantastic!

[@paulstaniland883]

Just got a Citizen JDM NB1050-59E and am very impressed.

[@iFyvie]

I want one of those. Such a beauty. Congrats!

[@mustafasahinturk9651]

Citizen made incredible watches in recent times

[@midge148]

Citizen are totally ruling the Japanese brands at the price point 👍

[@justinscott7492]

I know Bulova is a Citizen brand and they are killing it!

[@iansclone]

I absolutely relate with the thumbnail

[@Alan-lv9rw]

I love the day/date in green. It would be my daily. Love the Eco-Drive, sapphire, and titanium.

[@tablameister]

Thanks for finally reviewing some of these solar-titanium watches. The most similar product Casio has is the Oceanus series. Can't go wrong with either (I own both types).

[@dionpieters4773]

Perfect cover poster for this video. I'm a huge fan of citizen watches. It's an underestimated brand. Thanks for giving it some attention. I will be definitely buying the Forza.

[@holgermuller3597]

The same movement appears in the Jacques Lemans 50-1 (same color, 42mm, steel) for around 499 Euros. This was my choice, because I´m not into titanium. Nice reviev, Jddy, as always, thanks for that 👍👍👍

[@RobertTeal-ww8kb]

Nice tip, thanks - scratches on Ti put me off.

[@brown8317]

Yes they are! Hope this kicks some competition into Seiko !!!!

[@rchdic]

Was just in Japan and bought a SBTR031 (JDM only) and is on par with this watch without solar. Cost me $300NZD. Absolutely love it

[@VitanuovaQuintero]

Outstanding video.I have to go with the amzwatch, especially with that green dial as my favorite

[@nathans9764]

I have the automatic version and I love it. The "white" dial is really more of a silver, it kind of goes back and forth depending on how the light hits it. The alternating brush and polish on the bracelet makes it catch light in a fantastic way as it moves. The only change I'd make is give it the Tsuyosa small seconds dial layout--dateless with small seconds at 6 o'clock instead of the asymmetric design.

[@petervanvalkenburg1147]

The clasp on the Night hawk is my personal favorite!!! Would have been nice to see in TI

[@DonaldJoeKennedy]

Erm, it's turquoise/baby-blue-ish. Teal has a decent dose of green in it.

[@DonaldJoeKennedy]

Nope. There's barely any green at all in that blue. The only way that color can be classified as "teal" is by looking at a teal spectrum chart and going all the way to the left, and then having camera/displaying issues. It's at most turquoise. It's nice, don't get me wrong. It's just not teal is all. Peace. 🙂

[@knutjunker2019]

I love my Citizen Chrono with Eco Drive from 2015 and my Promaster Automatic NY0085 i bought in February 2024. Next will be the Fujitsubo, a great Watch.

[@ijrm37]

What about a Citizen vs Seiko shootout across the range? Promaster vs Seiko 5/ Samurai/ Sho-gurai for divers, this for GADAs, speedtimer vs eco-drive etc. I think Citizen is the new budget king!

[@marcusdare1688]

Great timing! Just about to hit buy on this.

[@MrJoberg]

I got the small seconds automatic in blue. It’s my first automatic watch and I love everything about it. I have small wrists so I’m happy that it wears much smaller than the 40mm prx which I tried on my wrist as well.

[@vpapadim77]

Love the three hander

[@DonaldJoeKennedy]

Yep. Chronos have run their course. Solid, reliable, clear, attractive watches are where it's at now. Unnecessary bulk and never-used "functionality" (divers & chronos mainly) died over a year ago.

[@hootonhoot]

Several of the knit-picks are absent with that lovely three hander!

[@scottbeckett4190]

Great vid. I bought a Pagani chrono for around $90 CDN. It looks fabulous and while it isn’t Ti or eco drive it is hard in my mind to justify the massive price difference particularly given the compromises like the clasp! My collection is getting a little silly size wise and the Pagani chrono still gets lots of wrist time. Thanks as always Jody!!

[@TCL_Dasler]

Doesn't look too big for you, Jody. Looks ace on the wrist

[@e28forever30]

I was thinking the same. Looks fine on his wrist. I’d rock it on my 7 inch wrist!

[@69stingrayman]

They seem to be a greenish colorway that's available in Europe that looks really nice. Happy to see Citizen making a watch with a nice textured dial.

[@dude28405]

Citizen is doing good things here lately. I go with what works at one time I was a Ford man now a Chevrolet, Man. I used to drink Coke now I go to Pepsi. Whatever works I’m loyal to quality and value

[@JeeGee114]

Pepsi is horrible. Way to sweet.

[@brentwhite9712]

Can’t wait for these to arrive in New Zealand and Australia, the hardest part will be deciding which model to go with!

[@jhatgotagat300]

Citizens coming into its own this past couple years! This has reflected in my collection! Jody you should do the nb1050 in blue it’s just a killer watch and the last skx competition left unuttered

[@jayeblagburn2056]

That colour will always be PD1734 turquoise to me! 😉 I'll get ma coat...... Seiko my favourite from that trio, but the light weight of the Citizen would make it more suited to my skinny wee wrists. Says the woman who can get away with my much loved Casio Duro(s) because my wrists, though both under 5¾ inches in circumference, are quite flat, so providing a stable place for big watches to sit.😊

[@markonline1.]

Picked one of these up a couple of weeks back. The dial is a stunner. The watch has been getting quite a lot of wrist time.

[@u.u.u9969]

Yep I just picked up the Olive Green Citizen Small Seconds and was blown away with the 60hrs power reserve and overal quality.

[@jackochainsaw]

I'm wearing a Citizen now. Great value, well made, an easy equation. They don't need to chase Seiko and others, they just need to keep making their own quality items. There are a lot of models that have caught my eye recently. They also make some really functional dive watches. Love the eco-drive. They seem to be making some really good looking dials as of late and are seemingly getting out of the habit of overcrowding the dial.

[@brentwhite9712]

Great looking watch! Titanium, eco-drive, excellent QC, finishing and accuracy. That is better than offerings from their competitors.

[@anthonywhitney634]

Great looking watch, in this case I think the regular Forza with separate seconds subdial, ice blue colour, is the pick of the bunch.

[@dutchpagans]

Yeah Had mine in a couple of days So glad that you’re reviewing this model! And yess this is my first citizen, after buying tons of seiko’s and i really impressed by the forza chrono

[@daveindevon5240]

Love Citizen Eco-drive but their fixed bezel sports styles are usually just too big. If they made more 38/39 mm options they would sell a ton more watches. One of the new Forza range is 39mm, so maybe the message is getting through at last.

[@worthwhilewatches]

Nice looking Citizen! It's good to see Citizen stepping it up lately. Thanks!

[@BosworthMcG]

So when are we getting an Erebus Ascent in 36 mm? My suggestions for colorways are Salmon, Tiffany, and Lavender in addition to the enamel colors of the 39mm version.

[@RobLewis3]

I'm not a big quartz guy, but I think this is pretty unique and very good looking. if I was in the market for an integrated chrono, I would definitely be considering this alongside the PRX.

[@blairdalgleish8247]

Good looking watch, I would buy it over the speed timer

[@samnova450]

Thanks for the great review. I been eyeing the Forza watch for some time. Love the color that you have or the dark Blue dial. Just trying to figure which movement to get. Also want to wait for some sort of Holiday Sale.

[@Gumby56]

Looks perfect on your wrist.

[@pizzagogo6151]

100% agree with your intro! Citizen really are on a roll!,, think I had one citizen in my modest collection for years .....but eyeing at least 3-4 potential citizen purchases- and now this one( this channel is very bad for my wallet😢)...😊

[@mustafazeytin4801]

Citizen offers more Quality than Seiko for a fairer price, that why I will choose Citizen over Seiko.

[@TheGaztela]

El Bulova Jetstar también merece la pena

[@ChrisWilletts]

Great review.. I've always preferred Citizen to Seiko.. Any chance you our going to review the Citizen Promaster Land 35th anniversary JV1008-63E soon??

[@ReneAlexisPenalozaMunoz]

Thanks for the review,. I have my eyes on one of these as my next gift for myself Lol

[@MarcTsawwassen]

The integrated bracelet on my Hamilton PSR is really nice. I really wonder how this one compares?

[@matthewpaull1664]

Never been a fan of citizen, but I like where they’re heading with a couple of their latest releases, but I still prefer my Tiff….ah ice blue speedtimer. But I’m keen to try the small seconds version of this one.

[@ThisIsBarcode]

Recently got hands on with one of these in Canada. Great looking watch but the titanium was too light for my liking and the bracelet felt really cheap. Definitely wears well though and felt great on my 7.5” wrist.

[@Ben-bs4od]

Best value watch on the market now. Titanium and textured dial. Two things you don't get from Seiko for this price. If I could have any new watch I would take this in the ecodrive non Chronograph form. I despise 99 percent of watches because of their weight. Most watches feel like wearing a cellphone or mountain bike to me. So this is one of the only watches I would buy other than nordgren or skagen and actually wear it.

[@RabbitWatchShop]

Oof. Lovely watch, but the width of the case will prevent the acquisition. That chronograph in a lovely 40mm case would be awesomeness. Nonetheless, she’s beautiful.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Orient have some solar chronos in roughly that size.

[@DeusNyx]

If Seiko made a Solar titanium, with sapphire crystal, it would be priced at £1000! Seikos prices on the second hand market is almost half price in some cases! (I picked up a virtually new seiko 1965, for £500 - half the price!) Citizen is literally trumping over Seiko, and I hope they continue. This Citizen is Beautiful! - Thanks for the tip Jody, I'll picked one up!

[@hootonhoot]

The pick of the Forza litter is the 39mm three hander 👌

[@ardoin_337]

42.5 is big but it works really well on your wrist. Not too big at all.

[@randomhobbyist99]

There’s a citizen outlet near me. They always have 65% deals on random watches. Doesn’t mater if it’s discontinued or new. I have like 15 of them now….

[@lolpocalypse]

Citizen has renamed this series to Zenshin, which means a fresh start, or head-to-toe. Exact translation is hard

[@charliehows]

What are your thoughts on service intervals on watches that don't get a lot of use?

[@TailSpinRCSpain]

A nice piece ! I can guess which jewellers in the north of Spain, I've bought a couple of watches from them.

[@hermv9994]

Citizen finally starting to stick with a design and making new itterations. Loving the dial colour and intergrated case

[@derbagger22]

Absolutely love the small seconds Tsuyosa you reviewed a few months back. That greenish blue goes with absolutely every blue thing I own. Gorgeous and 60 hours power reserve. I love Citizen. Seiko is so meh these days...

[@hattyfarbuckle]

Love Eco-Drive but not a chrono fan. I do like the look of the 40mm day/date version - AW0130.

[@DrTerryBooth]

6 year warranty if you register. Not into the examples referred to. How about a stiletto at 4mm wide quarz at least the £300 (they made a 2mm thick one) or the most accurate watch ever ( 0100 movement, again more expensive, but unbeaten).

[@zillsburyy1]

yes it is!!!!

[@expertreviews1112]

My biggest concern with Seiko is the QC and spec of dust that are all too common inside the glass, and the infamous alignment issues... Citizen QC is mostly above par

[@FlatFour-roks]

What's the make and model of your eye glasses? They look good. Hopefully, they're available in the states. Cheers!

[@larryfromwisconsin9970]

I agree that today Citizen watches are better values than Seiko. And I like this watch. Still not the sub $200 USD value of days gone past. I enjoy my Citizen Nighthawk that is 20 years old. A new capacitor (battery) and an upgrade to a sapphire crystal. I'll probably get another 20 years out of it. In the meantime I build custom watches with NH35 movements. What do I need a Seiko logo on the dial for?

[@Hipnosis65]

You got a good one there. I like it.

[@WatchWiseUS]

@Jody - do you know when the Purple Ascent will be back in stock? It's begging for a review!

[@bandwagon240]

I just can't do titanium if I'm wearing it at work. It's so light that I'm not cognizant that I've got it on and will smash it into things. I'm a mechanic but manage to keep my watches nice if I know they're there.

[@darrensmith6999]

That is one of the most Handsome watches ive seen in a long time (:

[@Psysso]

I own about 5 citizens and all are ecodrive and one ny0040 auto. All of them are extremely precise, robust and well built years in. Prices are also a steal compared to Seiko, whats not to like. QC usually is better too.

[@georam7253]

Not watched the video yet, but yes, Citizen are on it at the moment. Undercutting on price and out in front with designs. They're on the way up for sure.

[@CT-wq1je]

Lucky that the 3 handers are both smaller than this chrono. Both the auto & the eco-drive are 39mm to 40mm so more likely to fit a greater range of people. Shame they are taking so long to get down to Australasia.

[@justinebodlak1373]

Citizen do some seriously good watches and they seem more professional than Seiko.The QC is spot on! I have the Titanium 'Ray Mears' field watch and it's amazing. Monobloc, light, plenty of WR and a very sturdy yet wearable Kavlar strap (also comes with Titanium bracelet but costs 5o quid more). Subtle watch and no one would know how complex it is. Citizen have really embraced Titanium and are doing great things with it! Thanks Jody. And I do think the watch looks good on you.

[@jeanlefranc3817]

Grateful to Jody for helping me discover the quite exceptionnal Citizen ChronoMaster

[@mattclarke8791]

I must be getting old or jaded, so many new watches just don’t do anything for me

[@gs7828]

90% of Citizen watches, despite being technologically superior to many others, are either ugly or face a too complicated of a watch face.

[@Kevinjimtheone]

How does the bracelet of the Citizen compare to the PRX bracelet?

[@adk7962]

Very cool indeed. And a hair too large for me indeed also. Thanks for showing it to us! I really do need to pay attention to Citizen more.👍🏼

[@Upstatepatriotny]

Wow if u don’t wanna shell out a ton for a prx chrono that citizen does a good job

[@Zelma-j4n]

I have never been disappointed since I became a customer of MAMACOO. Their watches are of exceptional quality.

[@RhinoRhinoGiraffe]

No pocket shot to finish :( - always gives a good idea of how it actually looks in reality!

[@MrMacanudosterup]

Citizen has always been the better choice. In my humble opinion. Great review yet again 😊

[@jaredstephenson6468]

I recently tried on the Tsuyosa on and fits enormously large on a 7" wrist, as do the 40mm Twelve and the 40mm PRX. They all look ridiculous. I like the Forza, especially for the Super Titanium, but I worry that it will look just as goofy on me. Unfortunately, when they shrink them down, they tend to lose things like the date function. Maybe they'll shrink the automatic Forza to 36mm without losing the date.

[@kennyto3436]

Any updates on when this will arrive in Aus?

[@anthonyuchello2031]

Yes.