Salvation, Healing, Miracles, and the Sovereignty of God: An Interview with Pastor John Samson

Former Word-Faith preacher and TBN host, John Samson, joins me for a second interview. God delivered John out of the Word-Faith deception and he nows pastors a doctrinally sound church.
In this interview, John and I discuss salvation, healing, and miracles, and particularly how all of these things relate to the sovereignty of God. I think you will find this interaction helpful.
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[@lorimacduff1180]

I was saving my money, so I could go see Andrew Wammack in July/23 and get healed of Scoliosis on a 65 degree angle. Since listening to weeks of your Videos Justin Peters, I'm totally sure that it would be the biggest waste of time and money that I ever planned to spend. God could one day heal me, if it were His will to do so, but definitely not by going to some supposed faith healer. Once again so grateful for God again leading me to know His truth, through the Word. Your ministry is so very important Justin and love you brother for helping me find these truths. Bless you and your wife and little dog. ❤️✝️❤️🙏❤️🙏🏾❤️

[@billiamnotbob]

I came out of a Charismatic church due to RC Sproul. I was in the church library and I saw his book Renewing Your Mind. I read the back, then the whole book. That led me to more of his books, then to John MacArthur and his teaching and books. This in turn led me to Justin Peters, Paul Washer and Voddie Baucham. What a journey it has been and still is! I've grown so much in faith and discernment, praise God!

[@Scorpiondethbite]

I have no idea how I missed this video, but, I am so thankful that I just saw it! Both of your ministries are such a blessing and I pray that the Lord will continue to bless you both!!

[@MsNZgal]

I enjoyed this video. Thank you. I believe God still heals but not in a grandiose way often. I had terrible eczema on my hands for many years. It was very painful. The skin was cracked and bleeding and constantly weeping puss. A woman at church offered to pray for me, and as a new Christian I knew nothing about exercising faith etc but allowed her to pray for me. There was no great shouting or shaking etc just a quiet prayer alone in an office between two people. Within a couple of days, my hands were completely free from the eczema I had suffered with for years. That was over forty years ago and I have never had problems with eczema since. I am very aware that there are people with worse conditions than what I had that haven’t been physically healed. I don’t know why God chose to heal me, but I am so grateful he did.

[@craftingmamaberne3776]

I loved this video and it also scared me to bits too. Loved it to know that I am not good enough to learn and follow God but the fact that God knew me before I was born and that I would live in this world in sin and yet he still let me come to him and be humbled by him. Also scared to know how supreme God is in yet he still allowed me to just be. He is truly the beginning and the end of it all. He is an amazing God. I loved this video of you Justin and John and I’ve saved it and will be rewatching it again so I can take notes and be so happy that God is truly Sovereign.

[@judithdavis4137]

It's ture that it sounds terrifying at the same time so amazing. God be praised.

[@gracepilditch9388]

So reassuring! Jesus did all. There’s no condemnation. If the Son sets you free, you shall be free indeed! Praise Him!

[@carolfoster6990]

This is so encouraging to see two saints sitting down and talking about what Scripture teaches. This is what all brothers and sisters in the faith should be doing! Thank you Justing for your faithful service to the church and for inviting brother John Samson to share also.

[@nakiaskinner4968]

Most of my friends are in the word of faith movement and they tell me i need to learn to speak to my body and speak to the thunderstorms... I have a very hard time hanging out with them because there is always awkward moments of silence because i don't agree with them. I dont always want to confront things because i know it will rise up there attitudes. I just pray for them because nothing you say will reach there ears. I feel lonely at times because biblically sound true christians are far and few between. Living a Godly life has caused many to stray away from me and i can't compromise with them. It's really a difficult walk sometimes.

[@johnu.9732]

You are not alone!

[@Whatisthematterwithyoupeople]

Exactly the same! Very difficult! Its a time to draw in close to the Lord! One day, they may need you.

[@HarHah]

They told me that I couldn't speak in tongues because I didn't have enough faith, and had a rebellious spirit.... Their manipulation didn't convince me...

[@robertgalea1562]

I just broke up with a woman that was 3 ,, generations Pentecostcal. She was fun however God told her this and that.. and had spoke in tongues. I got turned off .. She was stunned to hear the true gospel rather than the full pentecostal Blashemous gospel.

[@Savedbygrace22]

@Nakia Skinner I understand the loneliness being a Christian 30 years married 38 years but no one else is saved in my family. I pray for them all but I can see these years have brought me to study deeper, pray earnestly and often. I wonder if they were saved would I have such a deep love for the Lord and read his word everyday? It’s the most important thing in my life and no one I love wants to hear it. I rest in God’s sovereignty and his promise to never leave me or forsake me. ❤️❤️ I understand why God wants us to be in church. We must be with fellow Christians by His grace to help us in this evil world. God bless🙏

[@chrissaunders2246]

Every hair on our head is counted, even though I lost a few in the shower this morning, how great is our God!

[@ILive4Jesus]

😊

[@vspec17]

Isn't that amazing?

[@vspec17]

@J W that's a good'n

[@arianarubytemple6008]

Despite my doubts about cessationism this is an excellent conversation. My thanks to both of you.

[@mawmawvee]

I feel so blessed to know that I have met a new brother in Christ, Pastor John.

[@eric_sandstrom]

I echo that!

[@doctrinalwatchdog6268]

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar! Keep the videos coming

[@truthfulfree]

this was excellent to say the least, i don’t really have enough superlatives to do justice to how edifying i’ve found this, thank you both so much, glory to God 🙏

[@jacobhinds593]

Justin and John, I’m so thankful for this God honoring conversation. It’s so worshipful to speak of and expound upon the holiness and sovereignty of our God. I’ve listened intently and felt as if I’ve been part of a worship service. God is supreme and sovereign and so worthy! “My soul magnifies the Lord! And my spirit has rejoiced in God my savior”

[@JMD621]

Sheesh

[@Martos59]

I was so encouraged as a believer listening to you both discussing the sovereignty of God. The passion you guys have for scripture was a joy to watch. In these strange times it’s refreshing to hear views solely based on the word of God and nothing more. Thanks so much. Keep up the good fight!!

[@SerenityNow22]

I’m only halfway through but what a fantastic, edifying conversation. Sharing this everywhere! God bless you two 🙌🏻

[@JustinPetersMin]

Thank you so much, Sarah! Blessings to you as well :)

[@mikeallison9777]

One of the best videos I have watched in a while great job love you two men great discussion great hope God Bless

[@LA6507a]

I am learning so much from your ministry, brother Justin! Thank you very much for the amazing Biblically doctrinal content on your channel!

[@lauranewcomer170]

Justin, you were one of the first "exposers of false teachers" I listened to several years ago. I had been a HUGE fan ever since. Thank you for your commitment to preserving the true gospel in a time where it can get easily lost in the vast array of heretical churches and teachers. I found this session/interview to be a delight to listen to - especially how you follow the arguments of Armminians to their illogical conclusions. I look forward to whatever comes next on your channel, I am a subscriber and always am encouraged by your messages and programs.

[@bradmatlock8994]

I was raised wof form 10 years old and preached and taught in those types of churches including an nar church. At first I didn’t like this ministry but praise be unto God he brought me out and this ministry is one God used to help me. Still hurts at times and is embarrassing to think I was in it but am grateful for His grace and mercy.

[@timg2088]

What an excellent testimony!

[@ag7075]

I love that both men have their bibles open and defer to God's word. Thank you for speaking plainly and explaining from the beginning your theological perspective, i.e., Calvinistic and cessation of the Apostolic gifts.

[@Sandra-cm1du]

Justin, I just can't get enough of your correct teaching of scripture. I have been suffering from dying of spiritual thirst for decades.

[@sparker8875]

Thank you both for coming together with clearly stated biblical truth.

[@Sandra-cm1du]

Thank you for solid scripture teachings of the Lord. I got saved in the early 1980's out of the occult, i.e., astrology, mediums, etc, but I entered prosperty teachings of Kenneth Copeland and others, and unfortunately watching TBN was misled without realizing it! This is why we need a channel where real scriptural teachings and also teaching of why there is such ERROR in prosperty mystical Christianity is leading to destruction.

[@scottwhitley5542]

So proud of Justin! It's so cool to see some big ol' fruit as a result of God using him in ministry. How encouraging this is my fellow Cessationist!!

[@zedonutube]

Awesome presentation, Brothers! Thank you!

[@margcarter3758]

Indeed, I thank you Justin, for your ministry., continuing to expose the blasphemy of the prosperity false gospel who line their pockets with the money of so many who are sadly deceived! May God bless open doors as you serve Him!👍💕

[@JustinPetersMin]

Thank you so much, Marg - blessings to you :)

[@DChestHair]

Brothers and Sisters, please pray for my wife and her family and my family. They are all very deceived by the charismatic and pentecostal movement. I began watching Voddie Baucham and he was preaching the gospel truth! I knew that he was speaking the God breathed truth from my reading of the Bible and always believed that something was not right because it seemed that everyone denied or was unwilling to understand the doctrines and statutes clearly written in the word of God. Slowly i began to discover the reformed theology and realized that I had been deceived for my whole life. I thank God for bringing me out of the deception. Pray for me as I attempt to share the true Gospel of Christ, and expose the perversion of the Holy Scriptures that is being done in these charismatic, pentecostal, word of faith movements to my family. God bless and Godspeed.

[@iw9338]

Thank you both. God bless you. Please pray for my marriage, may God help us all.

[@roxanneroxanne7232]

Dear Lord put peace into this marriage and let your glory shine through its success!

[@melaniehart8832]

Thanks to both of you for taking the time out of your busy schedules to do this video. I learn so much from watching Q & As at conferences (like Legioneers) and men of God having conversations together. The style is a nice change from preaching yet I learn so much about the Word of God and how to give an answer for the faith that I have. Blessings to you from CANADA!

[@bukolaajayi8611]

I am always excited when I get notified about a new video posting on this channel. God bless you for all you do Brother Justin. I also always look forward to the endings and mouth along with you: "the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all”😊

[@dece870717]

I like to just use the phrase "The Doctrines of Grace" instead of Calvinism or Calvinist, mostly because of the negative connotations/overtones of those words, and it sounds more official/historically all encompassing and understood.

[@ReformedTradesman]

When that word is mentioned, you can feel the tension rise and it's nuts. Or even mentioning John Calvin himself, there's immediate opposition!

[@sanders194539]

That is a good point. You could also say "the sovereignty of God".

[@ReformedTradesman]

@@sanders194539 amen!!

[@BrotherDave80]

the doctrines of Grace come from Augustine/Calvin so you can't avoid it. Grace is Biblical, Calvinism is not

[@jesuschristsaves9067]

@@BrotherDave80 amen

[@laurab8547]

Excellent conversation! So much meat here. Thank you both!

[@mccuj4509]

I love the brotherly joy!

[@caroliner2029]

I've enjoyed listening to the two of you discussing God and faith. The time flies, and the whole thing is engrossing and satisfying. Thank you, and more please ❤️🇭🇲

[@lindseya2715]

Wonderful conversation! Thank you both for teaching difficult doctrines in an understandable way! I may need to listen to this one a couple times to really cement these doctrines in my brain ☺️

[@atsipan]

This is my 3rd time listening to it. So good.

[@RaptureReadyPam]

Praise the Lord for this today. I was sharing that God is Sovereign with my grandkids last night. I told them that He does allow people that love Him to get sick and die. They wanted to know why God would do this. I shared some accounts from the Bible cuz only the Bible can reveal what He says about Himself. I loved hearing this today. Thank you

[@johnnyhelms9909]

Absolutely sound and Biblical theology.

[@jodyel]

I wish I lived in Arizona. I'd be at John's church like a shot. And I am not a churchgoer due to ill health but I'd drag myself to his church. So thankful for your conversations with him. You both are great brothers in Christ. I want to know and have friends in Christ like both of you. God bless!

[@williewiner4161]

So happy you had this gentleman back. Love how the Lord drew him out from all the nonsense and lies from TBN and the like. Thank Justin appreciate your ministry and faithfulness to Jesus.

[@caroliner2029]

It's an astute observation that the chronically ill and the disabled don't fit and don't belong in the Word of Faith church. That church wants an Instagram life, but if you are traumatised, have PTSD, are injured, single, impoverished, infertile, etc, you don't have a place there. When I was worshipping in my church, I lifted my hands to God and thought sadly of my nerve damaged hands. I thought with a wave of grief "they're diseased hands now", and immediately I felt the Lord say calmly "I don't mind 'diseased' ", and I felt His comforting love. Tears of love and comfort streamed down my face🥰 Jesus is unflinching at disease, He healed lepers and raised the dead, and didn't "antisocial distance" or wear a Covid mask either when he responded to people 😁

[@Brenda-qo4ko]

This was just SO good.Thanks Justin and John.God bless you both.

[@deborahb3634]

Amazing teaching. Hope you will do more together. Bless you both.

[@kennethmitchell5734]

A very informative deep theological interview. You answered so many questions. Thank u both. Also comforting.

[@charlesascano8616]

Your content is always so edifying, Justin. May God continually bless you and John.

[@JustinPetersMin]

Thank you so much, Charles - blessings to you :)

[@karenhuggins6607]

I love you Justin, for speaking the truth, and now I love John.

[@ducksinthepond]

This is the first comment I have ever made on a KZbin video, just want to say thank you for sharing this (and all your other videos). I have been realising many areas lately where I’ve had wrong understanding and your videos have helped me a lot. This has helped restore the peace and joy I had slowly been losing since first coming to Christ. Thank God and sincere thanks to you for your work.

[@matthewrasmussen4181]

I love that Alistair Begg clip, what a great preacher.

[@dabeavs1987]

Such great teaching! Thanks to both of you for making/sharing this video.

[@deb9315]

This was such a good discussion. We will never understand all that God is. It is way over my head. I am very thankful that I can stand not by anything I have done but by the cross of Jesus. I will just be so thankful that I heard the voice that called me to Himself. Grateful that He opened my blind eyes.

[@janinecarroll5633]

Thank you so much for this discussion! It goes a long way to clarifying the doctrine of election and predestination. ❤

[@LuisCruz-st3nz]

Thank u again Justin and John for the clarity of God word and how to read and not to go to man made dictionary. Keep up the good work Justin and may God bless the both of u

[@richardbar58]

My brothers, thank you for sharing your view on Calvinism and the Elect.... as a Wesleyan-Armenian for over 45 years, you both outlined this perfectly and my views have been in line with Calvinism and didn't even know it... :) However, I am not leaving the The Bridge Nazarene Church...lol..... but in all seriousness, thank you so much and I continue to grow in grace and it's all because of Him.

[@juliebriz1703]

So pleased to see you and Justin together again....I have gained so much from listening to you both today. Thank you and God bless.(I'm from England 😉 too!)

[@atsipan]

I wish more people saw this video. I shared it a few times.

[@AnnaPoetry]

I am so thankful. This video has opened my eyes in a way I have been waiting very long for. I was involved in the Swedish Faith movement and came out of it. But this education gives me a greater understanding of what grace and faith really is. My deepest thanks to you. But especially to the Lord Jesus Christ! ❤️God bless you from Sweden 🇸🇪

[@rongriffin9569]

WHAT YOU NEED IS TO GET IN THE WORD AND FORGET ALL THIS JUNK AND THESE MEN NEED TO GO BACK TO THERE FIRST LOVE

[@AnnaPoetry]

@@rongriffin9569 It was because I got into the Word that I came out of false faith movement.

[@saundranelson9332]

I enjoyed this so much. Prayers for clarity were answered here. Thank you both. May God continue to bless your Ministries.

[@bettybelcher3336]

I'm so happy that I found your videos. You are a Blessing to me.

[@thegospelmeetslife.2021]

What an amazing video! Great Job sir. You are discipling us young men in godliness and self control. Thank you.

[@kramsdrawde8159]

Holy Spirit brings Glory to Christ, Christ brings Glory to Our hevenly Father.... triune GOD. Many people in times of calamity say "why me" but ,at the risk of sounding like false humility, I ask "why me" concerning my Love for God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit and desiring to "KNOW" GOD through time in the scripture ??? WHY DID GOD CHOOSE ME ??? Hard to wrap my head around since I know the Lousy things Iv'e done in my 57 years . PRAISE YOU YHWH, from a filthy sinner to a child of yours.

[@torikirsty9075]

You both have no idea of how helpful and encouraging this conversation has been for me to have heard. I long to find a church that applies scripture and teaches like this near me in Scotland. I have been searching for what feels like too long now. I’m thankful for the online teaching I’ve discovered since COVID lockdown but as yet have still to find the church where I fit as I seem to be in the minority in this area. Thanks again for clear teaching of scripture.

[@arthaproctor6853]

Thank you so much Justin and Pastor John Samson I really got a lot out of this segment. You both brought much light of understanding to the Word of God and made it come to life. You both work very well together. Hope you guys do more of these talks. I loved it!

[@Savedbygrace22]

God bless you Pastor John. Your love and care for Christ’s flock shines through! This video blessed me with the glorifying of God throughout and the truth being proclaimed. Your flock is blessed there in AZ. Keep studying to show yourself a workman approved. I thank the Holy Spirit for opening your eyes. ✝️

[@gobirds19]

Thanks for such a fruitful discussion. We're blessed by your ministry.

[@shonblake298]

Don' forget to get your videos translated into Korean, Justin. Kim opened the doors himself. YOU ARE IN. All glory be o God!

[@YL-je1ui]

Yes I just loved this conversation my brothers..thank you for your love of scripture and teachings. I too will listen to this again and pass/forward it along

[@karenvance4167]

Thank you Justin Peters all the way from Northern Ireland! Another great video easy to listen to and understand!

[@Savedbygrace22]

Justin, thank you for this video. It is such wonderful thing to hear the doctrines of grace hashed out in language we can understand. People are always angry on yours and other sites at Calvin and so called Calvinists and I love how you put that you don’t follow Calvin you follow Jesus! That’s what I try to explain to others but they think we’re teaching a mean God and call Calvin a heretic. TULIP may not be the best words to use but the doctrines of grace is undeniable in scripture and gives God all the glory. Thank you so much I can refer others to this video. ✝️❤️🙂

[@rebekahkoch3888]

Wow. This is so thoughtful and thorough and wonderful. I am very encouraged. Thank you gentlemen for this.

[@eric_sandstrom]

This is a keeper !

[@dallyjacobson2146]

John Samson is my type of Pastor, or the Pastor I'd serve under. You both are men of God.

[@jodyel]

Mine too. I am not a churchgoer due to ill health but if I lived in Arizona I'd drag myself to his church. Fantastic knowledge of the word of God as is Justin's.

[@DanKoning777]

I've been listening to John's Sampson's messages re: the book of John since Justin's first interview with him, and I highly recommend them. Something you'll hear in John sermons is: "scripture isn't clear on this issue, so we won't speculate here" which is very refreshing. Btw, *great discussion gentlemen.*

[@Jeanne.N]

“The cry of the Christian is the true God.” Amen and thank you brothers.

[@bobkoval]

Ben born and raised in the country. So far you guys are awesome

[@jamiesmith9827]

Thank you so much for your videos. I am truly grateful for your ministry and I thank God and pray for you and the other men and women God has given us. Your humble heart of servitude is a breath of fresh air.

[@Catbytes]

HE is 3 in 1 and we are made in HIS image. We have a soul, spirit and flesh.

[@caroliner2029]

My father gave me the T L Osbourne book about healing, to encourage me to believe and not despair. I'm still not healed, but I'm eagerly awaiting Jesus calling me heavenward either in death from v*x injuries (heart and nerves, etc) or in the Rapture. Once I see His exquisitely beautiful face, nothing else will matter 🥰❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I'm so excited about having a new healthy body, and being able to comfortably sit on my horse with the saints at Jesus' Second Coming 😄 I can't sit on anything comfortably at the moment. P.S. I threw out the Osbourne book today.

[@petrahuisman5117]

Our gloriefied body is when Jesus comes soon to meet us in the air and the trumpet shall sound! He is coming very soon!

[@valeriemckenna1]

I hope I’ve been chosen… I feel like I’ve been changed. I desire for scripture and to learn, I went back to church ⛪️ I love the body. I hope and pray I make. In the presence of everyone here I confess my sin, I repent and turn from my sins. I know that I am a wicked and vile sinful human being. I deserve wrath but I’m thankful that God has made a way for me to be saved. I accept Jesus wholeheartedly and beg Him to save me. Thank you everyone for letting me get this out, I want salvation in Jesus Christ He did it all I did nothing I can’t save myself

[@anabanana7599]

Valerie Sweetheart if you have confessed you are a sinner and in need of a Saviour, if you believe Jesus is God and His Blood is the only thing that covers and saves you, then you are Saved. Please Valerie , you must learn now to rest in that truth. Blessing's ❤️

[@BrotherDave80]

you hope you been chosen?? what a stupid statement.. sad Calvinism

[@anabanana7599]

@@BrotherDave80 Really, that's how you've chosen to approach this person. Did you read her post. Could you not see and feel her desire to be accepted by God. The only thing that is sad here right now is you.

[@HunterXWorld95]

I was already traumatized by the word of faith movement, which I had believed in since I was a teenager. Being totally blind, I would have been even more traumatized if I heard that "your disability limits God" line. I would have probably spent half of my time hating myself because my blindness was limiting God. Praise be to the true God for liberating me from that set of beliefs which caused me so much pain.

[@facepalmingreformer8723]

Both of you guys have been a huge blessing to my family and me. Thank you for your faithfulness.

[@vspec17]

I love these dudes.

[@kbthankful7799]

WOW. Way to confuse me. Great evidence given for both side. I've been praying alot wanting to understand so many things but this seems to make so much sense and is resonating. I will keep praying the Lord lead me.

[@cindymorgan3072]

I'm just now seeing hearing this and I completely totally enjoyed every single minute of it....I know I will listen to it again ...Thank you so much for enlightening things that I myself have questioned and also did ...Your teaching was awesome on both of ya'll...THank you once again from the bottom of my heart

[@kimberlymannis6021]

God bless you Brothers and servants of Christ. This was a blessing so edifying

[@theresaofarrell1054]

I have learned so much from you .... Thank you for clarity and truth backed up in the word. Don't stop...I look everyday for a new word from you....(After the word of God!)...thank you for helping me grow and question ...so much false teaching anymore...you are annointed!

[@Deuces2023]

40:36 Thank you for this beautiful wisdom!!!

[@eddiebriggs2058]

Thanks Justin and John

[@camilasmall]

This was absolutely wonderful. Thank you

[@jerickperez4775]

Hi Pastor, I enjoyed the whole length of this installment. Very rich in the word of God and sound interpretation and teaching. God bless you more, Pastor.

[@maytvargas]

Thank you and God bless your ministry.

[@MjHlubi702]

God continue using you gentleman

[@kencollier5520]

Also I just want to say I can hardly wait to meet you all in the air soon

[@charlespowers6373]

I would just like to thank you Justin Peters for what you are doing. I just found you a few days ago. I’m from the mid west and can’t find a church to attend. THANK YOU FOR CALLING THEM OUT. I Can’t find a bible believing church in my area.

[@randyolan1273]

You brothers have made me more hungry for God's word (correct interpretation) Thank you. If possible can you do more of these round table discussions.

[@joeyharris67]

What an amazing video! Very direct truth being spoken.

[@romiolaishram]

I like the teaching of Justin Peters and Zac Poonen

[@TheSMEAC]

Thank you brothers!

[@chi3knees]

Fantastic discussion. Loved every second brothers thank you.

[@Allen-L-Canada]

What an eye-opening conversation! I have learnt some much: cessationist, sovereignty, ordanation, sheeps/goats, just/mercy, angle's non-deemption.....I need to watch again the second time.

[@craftingmamaberne3776]

I also loved the analogy Just used about the single cell of a lily leaf under a microscope. Thinking of that one single cell is magnificent and I also feel the same when I try to let my puny brain think about how amazing and wonderful God is when I look at a single heartbeat from a foetus or even when looking at a fingerprint on a newborn baby. It’s totally mind boggling knowing how magnificent God truly is.

[@leearmour4267]

Great conversation about the Word of God and God's sovereignty...