WORST MISTAKE if you swing on a single plane

[@Jim_Allocco]

OK that does it, I have been using an "other method" of single plane swing for several years. You just described every flaw in my swing that was created by that method. 1) too far inside, 2) laying the club off, 3) pushes, hooks, 4) loss of power. I just binged watched about 30 of your videos, I'm signing up for your online system.

[@Setup4Impact]

I am sure I can help fix all of your problems!!

[@geraldgoldstein6636]

Thanks Kirk, very timely for me. Have gotten into the habit of manipulating the club on the back swing, forgetting your admonishment to keep it simple (stupid). Always good to get back to basics.

[@Setup4Impact]

Excellent

[@danfrank1103]

I just came here to praise this swing! I live in Wisconsin so I haven't golfed since last October. Monday April 15 I played my first round. Shot a +6, 77!!! Hadn't touched a club in 6 months until then. The swing works, period

[@Setup4Impact]

AWEsome11

[@michaelgabel6246]

I’m new to your site and anxious to try your swing at the range and eventually on the course. I was fortunate to watch Moe hit balls at Royal Oaks (?) outside of Titusville many years ago and marveled at his consistency. I have struggled with impact and over the top issues and like your philosophy about the swing. Can I expect similar or greater distance with this method? Thx

[@Setup4Impact]

I would expect more distance in the long run. Better impact should increase ball speed.

[@michaelgabel6246]

@@Setup4Impact went to the range this afternoon and tried your swing for the first time. It took awhile to figure out the downswing but you are correct! More distance, better impact and more consistent strikes. If it works tomorrow then im sold!

[@bufenuf642]

Hi Kirk. I think this is my fix. I have been missing just left of my target line. I first learned the swing from Todd and then found you. I have been coming from too inside with the tilt. What is your opinion on creating extra distance on my irons using the SUFI swing? Thanks for being a great teacher.

[@Setup4Impact]

Creating more distance on your irons is not very important. The driver and woods would help more, and then as a result the irons could also be a bit longer. More important that you hit the irons consistently the right distance, and in the middle of the clubface, and straight. If the hands are leading through impact as my drills teach you then you will already have maximum distance.

[@bufenuf642]

Thanks for this recommendation. I will definitely adhere to it!

[@MrKillahippo]

Your describing Hogan's glass pane, It's something I've added to my swing too.

[@salihalexanderesq.4084]

Kirk, thanks for this. I've been trying to figure this out. Will this also apply with wedges and driver? Is the feel going to be that the left hand is pushing down and away on the way back? In another issue, I got jumbo grips. I think they're too big because my hands keep coming apart during the swing. Is this common?

[@Setup4Impact]

Yes, it applies to all shots. The wedge is easier and driver most difficult for me. I feel the clubhead moving down the target line and never think about the hands. My fitting recommendations for JumboMax grips is on my website at setup4impact.com/faq/

[@beefsupreme9308]

Hi Kirk! I have found it tough to find someone who will discuss Moe's 2001 private Florida demo. Have you seen the video? Ground breaking stuff. What do you think. I have some great concepts about Moe's swing changes. I have never heard anyone talk at all about it. Not even Todd graves talks about it. These swing changes Moe made could be the key!

[@Setup4Impact]

I shot the video and was there for many of Moe's clinics. Moe's swing never changed, but he did feel different things. Moe was always working on different things as long as I knew him. His best swing according to him however is when he was around 30 years old. There he had a much longer and more dynamic swing. Most of those trying to teach people to swing like Moe are focused on his swing when he was 65 to 70+ years old which is when Moe was very overweight and well past his prime. Also consider that Moe told me a number of times to "Swing like You, not like me".

[@randypcole]

This is my favorite golf channel, Kirk because your swing and swing thoughts are so similar to mine. You always have great advice and I very much enjoy watching your videos. I played this past Monday and decided to try something different because it worked so well at the range the previous day. I'm talking about the 10 finger baseball grip. (with all clubs from driver to wedges) I've used the overlapping Vardon grip for the over 45 years I've golfed and often hit approach shots to the left. As much as I agree with you about not copying Moe (which I don't) I decided to give the baseball grip a try and it seemed like I couldn't hit the ball off line if I tried. I was striking it SOLID and straight as could be at the range....so, I took it to the course and had very similar results. I was wondering your thoughts on a 10 finger grip... and also thought it may make for some good video content for you as well...even if you're opposed to this grip. Personally, I plan to keep working with this grip until it feels second nature. I have a very neutral left hand grip and a very strong right hand grip....and for me, it feels great and comfortable and I've also gained confidence using it. Again, love the channel.

[@Setup4Impact]

Just for your info, Moe played his entire career with an overlapping grip. He switched to 10 finger in the 1990’s when he was sponsored by Natural Golf which taught a 10 finger grip.

[@randypcole]

@@Setup4Impact I thought it was the other way around...that he started with the 10 finger grip and later switched to the Vardon grip...but I could be wrong. Regardless, the 10 finger grip is working great for me. Keep the vids coming, I really enjoy your channel.

[@rickcudmore8156]

I use a 10 finger grip out of the rough. I find it keeps the club head from closing when the grass grabs the hosel.

[@tdhutch66]

Can you speak to the take away when the club head is actually outside the hands? Would this even apply on a single plane swing?

[@Setup4Impact]

It feels like this to me sometimes, but I would try to be as close to on plane as possible. Except of you are still from inside when taking it back on plane, then I may try taking it a bit outside.

[@tdhutch66]

@@Setup4Impact thank you!

[@billyboulier369]

That is not how Todd Graves teaches the back swing - his is on plane.

[@Setup4Impact]

It is not on plane if it goes back to the inside and under the plane. This is one of the biggest mistakes people make. If you start off plane it will not be swinging on a single plane.

[@openstenosis]

yeah TG has said several times that the swing is "in & up."