Beastars' Tragic Story of Tem

[@rogercronin]

haha that's me

[@mervieja]

Nice👍

[@DJC-System]

You did such a great job!!!

[@KamuiMiracle]

Roger (Tem) Roger (Tem)

[@adridaplague-boi]

I will do as i have been told by the furry overlord and will stan

[@lilyblack3248]

You did a really good job!

[@s-betesbet7115]

Notice, when Tem says he accepted Riz, the curtains behind him are suddenly closed, when they were open in the previous one. That's the sign where the reality ended and Riz's version in his mind started.

[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

My godness I never would note that!Thanks so much!😁

[@paulshipper143]

thank you, i was going to say that myself.. along with the lack of shadows and the fluffy background.

[@tktvr9703]

Thats Kinda sad, :(

[@raccoonchild]

My God that's genius. Itagaki studied filmmaking after all...

[@_marshP]

The window appears to be open

[@buckingmachine]

I think Riz exaggerated his memory of Tem’s death. I say this because I actually remember him admittedly saying this to Legoshi while they were fighting. I can’t remember what chapter, but he basically said he sugarcoated his memory because he had a hard time coming to the fact that (what happened in chapter one) is what actually happened. It wasn’t a sweet scene at all, he killed his dear friend and couldn’t handle it.

[@mikedelange8415]

It was in chapter 94, he openly admited that all the things that Tem sayed after sayed that carnivore's are all monsters it was all part of his imagination.

[@buckingmachine]

@@mikedelange8415 Yes!!! Thank you so much for telling the chapter! I knew I wasn’t imagining it. I remembered because that scene hit me kinda hard, I felt some empathy towards Riz when reading that.

[@gregorythestallion2984]

Well, the theory that his story was real was really short lived...

[@zeanyt2372]

@@gregorythestallion2984 or is it? Tem might have said something. Riz was suffering from a psychotic break. Who knows what happened exactly. Even Riz wouldn't make a good eyewitness. In my mind something between the two different events happened. where Tem might have said something out of anger fear and care for Riz during the short struggle. Might have even hugged him in the struggle knowing that he couldn't fight him off any longer. Embracing his friend one last time knowing that this would break his psyche. That's how I would have written the scene and a small part of me honestly believes that's what happened. It definitely wouldn't have been as heartfelt and sincere as Riz remembered and possibly not as horrific as he thinks it was now. I feel this is more in character for Tem. That's why I believe this is what happened. It doesn't matter because practically speaking the only thing that matters now is how Riz remembers it. Because he was the only beast that was in the room that is still alive.

[@novicecreed]

Im surprised how many people seem to have missed this? Like i know its a small quick detail but idk I felt it so important regardless that it still stuck to me. So when he started asking if this was true or not it kinda confused like "Wasnt it established it was fake?". I'm glad im not the only one who noticed it.

[@soloragoldsun2163]

I don't think it was much of a retcon. It's stated that Tem was friendly with the carnivores in the drama club from the very beginning, so his friendship with Riz and everything leading up to his death was likely real. However, Riz himself admits that he sugarcoated the memory of Tem's death and remembers his taste more than anything else. So, the part when Tem becomes angry and says that carnivores are inferior and monsters is likely what actually happened. It still fits with Tem's character, because he was in a horrific situation. His friend had just injured him, and had devolved into a beast that wants to eat him. He was not only terrified for his life, but angry and betrayed at the same time.

[@chatleslorenzo6164]

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[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

This is exactly what I think!And probably the anime will answer this question for us,I believe,or let leave hints that all memories of Riz after scratching Tem were just an illusion.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

Yea if anything it’d be very strange for Tem to be so accepting of Riz immediately after he got terrified of Riz not being on his pills anymore and then getting injured and running away. I find it very unrealistic that Tem would’ve not acted in some hostile way towards Riz after all that. And Riz himself says he sugarcoated his memory of most of the event because he couldn’t cope with it

[@alexliddell3171]

I think a good contrast to this is when (spoilers, I only watched the anime) Kibi the anteater gets his arm ripped off by panther Tao by accident, & that leads to Riz being revealed as the murderer later. Kibi says a lot of hurtful things about carnivores in the heat of the moment because... well he got his arm ripped off suddenly by a carnivore not knowing their own strength. In that moment he's not really thinking straight & acting on his own instinct of self preservation which almost gets him killed because he refuses to be carried by a stronger carnivore to the hospital until he finally agrees to let Legoshi & Riz help him as he sees it the two least threatening carnivores he knows (oh boy, if only he knew!). Tao almost drives himself to a mental breakdown over the guilt of accidently ripping his friend's arm off, he gets suspended & genuinely believes his life is over, but unlike Riz tries to take responsibility for his actions & tries to apologise for what happened. & after the dust settles & Kibi's arm is reattached, he let's Tao touch his arm to show he is recovering & trusts him, showing the things said in the past was a panic reaction & that they both can move on from this. I think that maybe if Tem & Riz were not alone, & if Riz didn't try to block out the more horrifying memories of what happened, their story might have ended the same way. Tem was probably acting on reflex & not rationality because he was freaking injured & being chased by a freaking huge bear who was off his meds. & I think that is what makes it more powerful for me, it's even pointed out in the show, there was no one to talk to about this with Riz & Tem, it was impulse & rationalising it away rather than dealing responsibly with his feelings that got Riz here.

[@violetsparkles5453]

@@Dell-ol6hb Not to mention there are hints that Tem fought for his life. He scratched at Riz which I doubt would be a reaction to a consensual event. I think RIz' memory is distorted.

[@pabloiriqui6128]

When I read this part, I interpreted it as Riz being mentally unstable about his interactions with Tem, and right after he stopped taking his pills. So maybe he heard and saw what he wanted to hear and see as a, I dunno denning mechanism?

[@EskimoGirl123]

I agree with this. A lot of intense/traumatic moments can change or skew how someone remembers it. Not to say that people are lying about it but moments can be exaggerated or downplayed depending how the brain decides to cope.

[@pabloiriqui6128]

@@EskimoGirl123 yeah like, Tem screams that carnivores are monsters but then proceeds to immediately compliment Ris and tell him how that’s another thing of him that he likes? I dunno it seems pretty sketchy.

[@quesproductions7170]

The main thing that had me think the same thought is how Tem's words could be said sadistically or comforting depending on the situation. The herbivores in this universe are strangely masochistic when it comes to being harmed, but I dont believe that any animal would say "You carnivores are monsters" with no malice in this situation (especially when characters like Peanut and Melon are around. They openly call carnivores "ugly" "greedy" "pathetic" "disgusting" "Beasts", even Louis called Legoshi "Wild/feral"). I wouldn't be surprised if Tem was actually grabbing Ritz to plead with him and then was eaten.

[@ricotheskunk3062]

Ah yes, drinking pills.

[@nightdog4183]

@@quesproductions7170 Can you please remind me who is Peanut ?

[@legendunfound1137]

I think as he said “you carnivores are all monsters” Riz’s mind couldn’t handle that so it made a fabrication as his instincts took over and killed tem

[@AkitaSyn]

I believe after Riz hurt Tem it was all in Riz’s mind

[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

Me too.I think everything after Tem said "You carnivores are just monsters!" is a ilusion.

[@jonquilgemstone]

I think the illusion began when Tem ran away. Riz remembers himself explaining things, but it was probably actually him chasing Tem like a bloodthirsty predator from that moment on.

[@rai4119]

@@arthursemeghinigallo3336 Same. That seems to make sense. The cut even feels unnatural like he's adding words to the memory

[@rai4119]

The irony of not wanting other people to sully Tem's memory, when he's the one doing it the most

[@carnage0685]

@@jonquilgemstone Kind of late, but I think the illusion began IMMEDIATELY after he accidentally tore up his arm. So, just after they tried to run away. If I was a predator, and I accidentally ripped up someone's arm and saw blood everywhere and heard them scream, that would probably trigger my instincts.

[@kxngarrxw87]

I think it was a mixture of imagination and reality. Tem is shown to be extremely kind and open, but at the same time the reader knows that Riz is delusional because he hasn't taken the pills. I'm torn on it, but great video!!! always love your beastars videos!

[@0deadx21]

It was fake. Riz had scars on his torso which were made by Tem, which means Tem was struggling to get way from Riz, not giving him a hug.

[@20tigerpaw20]

@@0deadx21 it could also be from tem scratching and recoiling from the pain, dont matter how friendly you are, getting a chunk taken out of you is gonna make you scratch and hit whatever is attacking you.

[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

You repair how in 5:09 when Tem said that carnivores were all monsters the curtain behind him is open,but then in 5:18 the curtain is close?This is a signal that everything starting in 5:18 is a ilusion.At least,that is what I think.

[@raccoonchild]

Exactly. Tem is kind, so he tried to live believing in the good inside every carnivore despite herbivore prejudice, but seeing his belief proved wrong by his friend made him react the way he did. And Riz, unable to cope with a Tem that wasn't sweet and all-accepting－a Tem that was openly rejecting his unrestrained self－repressed his memory and replaced it with an idealized one that validated his lust for meat. It's beautifully tragic.

[@josefvs8855]

Fun fact about our recording session: Roger used his phone to get the audio! I was really surprised with how high quality it turned out.

[@anessaleonard730]

Well depending on your surroundings with recording, you can actually get decent results. I believe that it's usually more difficult to peak the volume with a phone then an actual mic.

[@Champsr0ck2247]

The 2nd scene is the fake one. It's too close to what Riz wanted to hear. It makes him comfortable to know that his friends dying words was encouragement and not curses as Riz ate him alive

[@alllittlethingzz]

Yea it was all in his mind

[@sunflower8227]

true, idk about yall but if i was being eaten alive i'd be cursing the living heck out of that thing, not hug it while giving encouragement and words of affirmation. Also, Tem said "you carnivores are nothing but monsters" then proceeded to hug him? yeah sure.

[@sonicboom3269]

While seeing how Tem embracing Riz before his murder is a possibility, I'm leaning more on that event being made up in Riz's head. The fact that Tem was the only herbivore to have a deep understanding and connection with him makes him want to believe that Tem's kindness was there even during his death to cover up the brutal reality of Riz eating him alive. Also like you mentioned (if the possibility of the event being an illusion), Tem saw Riz getting rid of his pills as a bad thing and the moment he was hurt by his grab he instinctively ran away. If Tem really was friendly to Riz to the bitter end, he would've done that *before* booking to the auditorium, meaning that Tem would've had his herbivore sense of dread and attempt to escape in the presence of a predator moments before his death. There's also this psychological thing about someone fabricating something that they want to believe happening during a real life event in their head, but it never actually happened(ex: you had the memory of meeting one friend in a park but it was actually another friend/person)(also idk what it's called, if anyone knows please let me know) Dang, this was a mouthful. But if it turns out that Tem was friendly and accepting to Riz seconds before getting eaten alive, that was be mega sad😢

[@stormwolf5848]

I think it is called the Mandela efect, when you remember somithing that never happened. And I think that Riz even says to Legoshi that his memory was diferent from what realy happened.

[@sonicboom3269]

@@stormwolf5848 So that's what it's called, thanks. Also I knew about Riz admitting to Legoshi that it was made up in his mind, I just wanted put deep thought into that theory

[@wut-dah_7212]

Personally I look at this and see Riz self deluding himself in order to suppress and justify what he did. As well as to help pretend that Tem didn't fear him in the end. By the looks of the anime's season 1 stop motion opening, Legosi seems to be doing the same with Haru, in that he's turning eating her into a pleasant experience for both of them, ie the dance sequence. He's imagining her and him coexisting happily with eachother, only he snaps back into reality and realizes what he just did. Could be early foreshadowing. That's just a theory though.

[@owenn.3619]

One of the biggest clues, in my mind, that points to that scene being Riz's imagination is the window in the background. When Tem says the line about carnivores being monsters, the window behind him is open and the curtains are pushed to the side. In the next moment, when Tem says the line about accepting Riz, the window is fully shut. It's a noticeable continuity error that I have to imagine was intentional. It's worth noting that Paru likes to include the moon in scenes that portray a carnivore giving in to their instincts (like in the anime intro, where shots of Legoshi feature a prominently displayed full moon, but shots of Haru have either no moon or one that is blurry and indistinct). The moon isn't actually visible, but it is somewhat implied.

[@_pyxeled]

So Riz lost his.... *tem* -per? I'll see myself out

[@randomhuman1262]

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[@skinny-legend2557]

Begone

[@alllittlethingzz]

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[@pthelynese]

I think it was in Riz' head, as his way of justifying his devouring of Tem.

[@Skarletkombat]

I took it as Riz having cognitive dissonance about how Tem died, because it’s simply Riz’s coping mechanism

[@fuzya8636]

Personally, my interpretation of 'that' scene is that its an illusion, but in reality, Tem was taken over by his own instincts when Riz injured him, I think one good parallel to this is the side story with Tao and Kibi (which might have been intentionally now that I think about it) When Tao ripped off his arm, you see Kibi push away all the carnivores, he even says "you carnivores are all monsters" as well (at least in the French ver of Beastars...) In the end tho he forgives Tao so clearly that bit was just an in-the-moment reaction he didn't actually mean, I think the same happened with Tem, I think if Riz hadn't eaten him, he would have forgiven him and probably embraced him like his illusion self did (I still think its an illusion because i don't think he would have snapped out of it that quickly and suddenly) But hey, thats just a theory. A *BEASTARS* theory.

[@BUnitMN-T]

Oh god dammit....I give points for originality

[@adridaplague-boi]

What’s up gamers, this video was epic, Stan Roger

[@KamuiMiracle]

Roger (Tem) Roger (Tem)

[@hiwhowhatareyoudoinghereme1974]

@@KamuiMiracle Roger (Tem) Roger (Tem) Roger (Tem)

[@hiwhowhatareyoudoinghereme1974]

@Khaki Shorts now that it’s been two weeks, I’m gonna break the chain and ask wtf was this lol

[@hiwhowhatareyoudoinghereme1974]

@Khaki Shorts truu Roger (Tem)

[@parasemprealice5684]

I believe that what happened before the murder was real and what happened in chapter one was Tem being blinded by rage because he thought Riz would be more responsible than that. For me, Tem dies thinking his old ideals were wrong and was a mistake to be friends with Riz.

[@Nikkehy]

Tbh I think it was Riz's delusion. Beastars seems to explore the concept of "Reality vs Delusion/idealism" pretty heavily. The one thing that it reminds me of is Melon's mother. She tried to live in her own fantasy world where everything is fine but the reality is her son was miserable and she high-key wanted to eat him. And we get to see a little of that overlap in her mind at the end of her life when she seemingly tries to comfort Melon by telling him how much she loved him...but creepily pointed out the fear in his eyes, his frail body, and even brought up his father's "flavor." It gives me the impression that in the world of Beastars, there are some carnivores that become so delusional trying to fight their "nature" that reality for them is perceived differently.

[@thebitten1]

Personally, I think it was in Riz's mind, cause Gouhin spells it out right from the get go. A carnivores confused feelings will disguise the hunger for love. After cutting Tem's arm, Riz's instincts would've taken off and the haze of a carnivores drive take over. Riz had strong feelings (not essentially romantic) for Tem accepting him. So his instincts would've blinded him to what Tem was really saying to make him still see and hear the Tem he believed in. I much think that, while Tem was a good guy, when literally against the wall the fear of carnivores shown through and he said some things he may or may not have believed deep down. When just attacked by a person you believed to be your friend and deny their carnivore persona, calling them and their kind out as a monster seems expected.

[@thebitten1]

And then this plays along with Legosi. Riz is fighting for a phantom, a Tem that he believed embraced him for his monstrous side to be devoured. Legosi is fighting for the Tem that had his life cut short by a highschooler that made a terrible mistake. Which is the one that matters? The Lie or the Truth? Also the text said Tem showed signs of a struggle when Riz made the killing bite so.... wasn't a hug. He was fighting back...

[@problempopsicle5430]

I have a strong feeling Riz imagined that "happy" ending he had with Tem since thru-out that chapter he saw his connection with them as the right thing to do and talked about it as if it were a great memory. Even tho im sure Tem would disagree. Also, I may be wrong but at the time of first reading that chapter the anime had released its first few episodes and I thought it was correlating to the anime that carnivores have this imaginary positive scenario when eating a herbivore for the first time, it is a traumatic experience after all and carnivores are constantly seen by herbivores as monsters so denial is expected. So like in the anime opening when Legosi chased Haru and everything instantly turns into this dance sequence but at the end of the song Legosi ate Haru. I thought the same thing was happening with Riz and Tem but instead of a romantic dance, Tem completely understood Riz and wanted nothing more but to be Riz's best friend. Something that Riz really wanted bc he was lonely and never fully seen as what he was. That's my two cents anyway.

[@cruentusmagus]

I believe there are no two versions of Tem. I believe that the one on the first chapter was the original and the other is just what Riz imagined it to be. He did mention that he made the memory "sweeter" Or something(i don't know the exact words but he did say that he fabricated the memory a bit) idk That's what I thought of it the first time I read it though lol It's hard to know the truth of the murder when the retelling of the murder is retold by the murderer itself

[@lilyblack3248]

I like the idea that it was it Riz's head, I would of never thought that but it make that scene way more interesting and makes you think what was real and what wasn't. Btw I love your content, thank you for all of your time and hard work you put in every video.

[@collinannus4685]

Personally, I think that it was just Riz's imagination. It could just be my unwillingness to accept a ret-con IDK.

[@Blu_Moon_VA]

I don't know... It could be either. I prefer the it's an illusion direction because it emphasizes how far gone Riz is.

[@ShadowMikku]

As many times as I've re-read the manga, I do honestly think that the parts after "You Carnivores are nothing but monsters!" are at the very least sugar-coated. The strong and immediate shift in how Tem was drawn in those pages and Riz himself saying later on in the arc that he knows those memories weren't real, but he can't let go of them or some stuff. I shoulda really go back and reread it again now that everything's done, it's just hard to. ALSO, MOVIE!? WHAT!?

[@anthonyrios2311]

I think Tem at the beginning was just a case of "Early Installment Weirdness" and the one with Riz is just a way for Paru to retell the story.

[@IImTheMayor]

“You carnivores are all monsters” is the last thing we know Tem to say, then even the art reflects how sugar coated it was.... He probably did say something to the affect of ‘we’re friends’ which translated to Riz’s mind “Best friends”, as keep in mind, Tem was being betrayed by his most trusted friend. This story truly hurts your heart, it’s so good and it’s so accurate to mental illnesses and the harmful actions it has when not taking medication for said illness

[@WinkuzzVids]

I disagree with the hug part and Tem changing his attitude. I think Riz was absolutely delusional and changed what Tem was saying in his mind because he couldn't deal with the fact that Tem changed his mind towards him as soon as he knew that Riz wasn't taking his pills anymore. So far Tem had been accepting and kind, but as soon as he hears he doesn't take pills anymore he's scared - and rightfully so. Riz is crazy and lives in his own world mentally. So he definitely exaggerated.

[@netba_art]

I think it was Riz imagining or sugarcoating the scenario so that he wouldn't feel too "guilty" about it. Almost like how the opening in season 1, Wild Side, where Legosi chased Haru, then it suddenly transitioned to day where they danced, and then when it transitioned to night it showed Legosi crying, and a pool of blood with white fur. Almost like it's what happened to Riz and Tem, did the 'dancing' really happen? or was it all in his head? When at that time, he could've actually just been devouring her.

[@EsfingeCinza]

Hm. I realy think that Paru just didn't believed that her small manga would have more arcs, and then had to change somethings, when he realised that characters wold have more time for development.

[@raccoonchild]

Nah, he just didn't understand the manga and took a reveal as a retcon.

[@trinitymoreno1363]

Wait wait wait... in chap 94 doesn't Riz say that he "sugarcoated his memory" after Tem said "You carnivores are nothing but monsters"? Doesn't that prove that all the happy happy and hugging was just Riz trying to justify his murder? He also says he was in an "emotional frenzy." It would explain why there were scratches on Riz from Tem trying to resist even whereas Riz recounts Tem hugging him. I think Riz was trying to form a bond with Tem, who saw him for who he was; therefore letting him live the "adolescence" of a carnivore, but obviously failed miserably. After the fight Riz even acknowledges how Legosi and Rouis have what he wanted to achieve with Tem.

[@sunflower8227]

i remember him saying that in the anime.

[@nexferna7695]

I think everything was true until after Tem started running away. Riz even said to Legosi that he sugarcoated that memory. I’m pretty sure Tem wanted to embrace the carnivore side of Riz but since he also realized there’s a part of him that could kill Tem, Riz breaking Tem’s arm probably pushed Tem to believe all the horrible things about carnivores in his last moments. That at least makes more sense then Riz breaking Tem’s arm, screaming and running away, then being “lol it’s fine” and being way too friendly and forgiving. The hug is what makes me think it’s fake since Tem probably knows that Riz can still hurt him intentionally or not.

[@quandisa3677]

"-on me were marks of desperate resistance..."

[@dantedare2797]

As someone with a history of trauma, especially as a young adult/teenager, its very common for the brain to either repress or re-frame what happened in order to cope. You normalize what happened in order to keep moving on, because the brain just isn't built to comprehend that level of suffering all at once. That's why therapy takes sometimes years to heal it. Because of that, I really think that it was in Riz's mind. It was a repressed memory of trauma which was only exposed when Riz saw the real deal between Legoshi and Louis. Seeing something which challenges your repressed world view, seeing how something is supposed to be versus what happened to you, is usually the first step to addressing trauma, and that's how I view the final fight scene where Riz has to accept his fantasy isn't real. Riz is an unreliable narrator, he's a mentally unstable murderer whose process of justification we saw first hand.

[@Daltinian95]

I honestly think that the latter half after Tem said carnivores are nothing but monsters after he was injured in the second part was all in Riz's head. He hallucinated the event as he wanted it to happen and heard what he wanted to hear. Instead of screams and resistance from Tem, he imagined a friendly embrace. He didn't want to imagine hearing anything so harsh from Tem, that he imagined everything after until that realization that he had partially eaten his friend.

[@codalong]

i think since mental issues are a side effect of taking the strength restrainers, mental issues could also be a side effect of suddenly stopping them. irl, suddenly going off of meds (especially meds that effect the whole body) can cause strong reactions as well. i'm thinking that tem "accepting" being eaten is a fabrication on riz's part, but it could have happened from riz hallucinating in the moment, or riz "editing" his own memories later on

[@KnoxCarbon]

I think Tem was lashing out out of fear of Riz, and Riz killed him out of anger and couldn't deal with what he had done and fabricated what happened.

[@Aka_MelissaS]

Thank you! Chapter 77 is easily my favourite one because of how tragic their relationship is. Riz is prob my fav character and I can't wait for the video about him.

[@TissuDemon]

I think the scene was changed in Rizs mind. A few pieces of evidence point towards this, not just the first chapter of the manga. Let's speak of the scene that was discussed in this video. Even in the altered memory, Riz can still see physical signs of Tems resistance to being eaten. The closeness of Riz and Tem makes it all the more likely for Tem to speak so horrible before death, because people lash out when they feel scared, hurt, and betrayed. To expect Tem to not think so horrible or bitterly is to say he would not feel betrayed by such an important person just turning on him. Riz in turn? He will blame Legosi, the pain from his medications, anything but accept the truth. Why? To him, Tem saying okay to being eaten is the only way their best friend would have shown proof of understanding him. To me though, this shows that Riz refuses to understand anyone but himself. He is so big and strong that it takes him getting beaten by Legosi to really start realizing what he had really done. During the last fight between the two, Rizs memories of Tem alter. This would be a lot less likely to happen if his first memories of Tem were real. There also wouldn't be physical signs of resistance to getting eaten if he didn't resist. What I think the real tragedy here is that Riz wanted to believe so strongly that he didn't betray his best friend, wanting instead to remember the flavor of the corpse above the last words of the person it had once been. It's only after Legosi wins against him that he starts to calm down. Would that be for good? I donno, as he's currently in jail. This means he's likely being forced to take medication and to stay well behaved in order to keep visitor privileges.

[@yellow_jacket3260]

This is what I like about Beastars, nobody is really bad, its just everyone has their own problems.

[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

Everyone... except Melon and the first Shishigumi's boss.These two are pure evil,in my opinion,at least.

[@tonyjames3541]

I mean arent animals like that in real life? None of them are really bad just following instincts. Except dolphins those guys are underwater rapists.

[@pastorofmuppets9346]

@@arthursemeghinigallo3336 the boss is probably the closest to it yes, altho in a more cold and methodical way. melon is just an unfortunate abomination, i can partially sympathize with him

[@Hidinginthetreeline]

Tem died being absolutely terrified and fighting for his life. Tem said somethings because he was scared. However I think Tem genuinely cared for Riz. But Riz found a new Boyfriend that truest accepted him for him and what he is.

[@DJC-System]

Riz's design always gave me chills. It reminded me of the scene from Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood Season 1 Episode 4 with the Chimera. (Yeah that one)... Those eyes are the same..

[@user-yn7bz5mn5g]

With the most recent episode titled "Memories Soaked in Honey" I'm certain that it was an exaggeration. Riz "soaks memories honey" to cope with the guilt of eating Tem.

[@JestaLemon]

I feel that he made a dissociation with the actual memory and sugar coated what happened since its hard to accept and understand when you really are the monster those you love say you are.

[@withjust-a-bite1396]

I honestly think it was a mix. I think it leans more towards Tem saying the, “carnivores are monsters,” line and that actually being the REAL events - plus, notice that in the two sets of the scene with Tem being cornered there are certain details on him and the background that are different? The version with Tem not then hugging Riz is a more style updated version of what we see in chapter 1 - Tem looking scared and agitated and exhausted while the window behind him has the curtains parted and you can see the night sky just pitch black. The more...”positive”...version of the scene has those curtains closed and looking prim and undisturbed while Tem looks less scared for his life as he tries to console Riz for what happened. I feel the real kicker though is the fact that Riz notes that signs of a struggle - resistance from Tem trying and failing to escape from Riz’s hold on him. I think that hug turned out to be all in Riz’s mind, but I do think that maybe Tem did try to calm down Riz - now if he did it because he truly was trying to reach his friend or did it solely to try to survive... Well we’ll never truly know, now will we?

[@fabby_4902]

I don’t know why but I really like the way Paru drew Tem, he looks really approachable

[@swiftfeather147]

I think it's a mix of real and fabricated. I think tem was being friendly but it specifically says he was marked with injuries from tem desbrate to escape and run makes me feel like tem was trying to run and escape but couldnt

[@deepstonecostco]

I personally think the first chapter is still the real Tem. I think it's a Tem who was panicking and trying to save himself. Same as when Els thought she was being attacked by Lugosi and thought the similar things of monster, only saw her as food, etc etc. Fight or flight exists for the herbivores too and I think Tem was just trying to fight back with his words, thinking or knowing it would hurt Riz and either snap him out of it or distract him long enough to get away.

[@grey8064]

This was a very good interpretation of what happened, I cannot wait for Riz’s video!!

[@Destiny-bj6vc]

I think up until "You carnivores are monsters" is real. Cause if you look at the panel backgrounds, you start to see this dream-like background/effect is incorporated. It gives the scene almost depicted as a daydream. It would make sense for Riz's mind to alter Tem's harsh words considering the amount of psychological stress he's under. Ah, but at the same time, I want the first interpretation to be true, just because of how bittersweet it is!!

[@viviliv8337]

I think that mixture of scent of blood, possible mental side effects of drugs and Tem overall personality made those flashback more imaginary vibe Tem could be reasoning with Riz about pills and tried to stay his friend, but he also might acted scared, with lead to him running away, and resisting Riz So truth probably lays between those version that we saw

[@txferretgirl]

it is possible that tem did try to be friendly with ritz in the drama room...but I don't think it was to really accept him. He was scared of dying, and he knew he had a friendship with ritz before so he may have been hoping ot appeal to that side of ritz until he someone else could either show up, or ritz would naively let him go. But ritz was in a haze, convinced that tem wanted to be eaten so he ate him. I would also wager that it didn't look as friendly in rality, but ritz thought that it was genuine while tem was likely shaking.

[@chriswolf9063]

You wanna hear my theory if what is going through that incident when Riz Attacked and killed Tem is an over exaggeration? Welp, by all means. My theory suggests this is all from Riz's head all the way and not what actually happened. Need compelling evidence? Well lets go all way the way back to when Legosi meets Gouhin. When Legosi expresses his feelings about Haru to Gouhin, Gouhin pretty much tells him that its Legosi's Carnivorous instincts that is taking the form of his feelings for Haru and wanting him to eat her. Even though Legosi pretty much proved Gouhin how he is different and suggested otherwise. Why don't we apply what Gouhin explained not on to Legosi but on to Riz instead? Riz stop taking the strength supplements is what lead to what actually happened to Tem follow by his carnivorous instincts to make it look like Tem is happy and tries to comfort Riz when in actually he is scared out of his mind until his final moments and was then devoured. Does anybody get what I am saying here?

[@Starshadow-dm8ds]

I think it was Riz's imagination because of Tem's terror, the jumps in scenes and the fact Riz says, "on me were desperate marks of resistance" meaning Tem was trying to get away plus Riz really thinks Tem was smiling as he was devoured but for the scene Tem's eyes are filled with raw terror

[@hodgepodgebuhgodge3739]

I must admit I was shocked to see that Tem's murderer was taking drugs for schizophrenia.

[@johnunterzuber329]

Riz's interpretation of the devouring was a complete fabrication. Gouhin warns us of what happens and the lion/rabbit relationship shows what can happen when a predator confuses their instincts with their emotions or vise versa. This is a case of a predator who wanted his friend with him forever and the delusion he created to rationalize how he go about doing such a thing to Tem

[@MFBERSERKER]

Poor little boy great video

[@Winter-yj2rv]

I saw your post and I was very anticipated for this to be posted, I'm soo excited to see what's in store

[@lluc_riberax1038]

I was surprised that you vocie acted, but you did really good giving Riz a voice and with the editing, the eyes shaking while he talks about tem are such a great touch that adds a lot to the scene

[@anxietyirl]

I think the point of the scene is that we don't know, Riz is an unreliable narrator, but so is Tem as he can no longer speak we've seen herbivores go into a panic before so can we really expect Tem to accept Riz in his monstrous state? Tem was also a kind and understanding soul, could we trust that being faced with his own murder allowed him to think rationally? These questions we ask ourselves, its what Legosi asks himself, unsure how to feel about Riz and his actions, if Legosi will one day become Riz and lose himself in his love for Haru

[@Thefoxthatbecameawolf]

1:21 omg that tem in the upper image, he looked better when he was dead on the floor xD

[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

😂😂😂😂 The evolution of Paru's drawing along the series scares me a lot!

[@thereptiledurppy6703]

I wonder why in the manga, Riz is stated to be a Brown Bear but in the anime he has white fur like a Polar bear.

[@venumbra1177]

I thought his fur was more of a light golden brown in the anime

[@KingkyLeor]

i mean look at agata, Brown in manga, golden in anime

[@pearvoz]

I absolutely can not WAIT for the Riz video. Also you did an awesome job as Riz.

[@OGZelda626]

voice acting was on POINT YYO

[@DragonLovingGirl6]

Ya know what the last interaction between Tem and Riz reminds me of? The first intro of the show. Where both Tem and Haru are running away from their respective predators, the scene changes to something happy and kind, then suddenly, blood and death. Almost as if Legoshi and Riz's minds start to hallucinate to cope with the moment of actual murder.

[@mickcardiff4945]

If tem didn’t die so early, he could have been in the place of legosi

[@confusedbuddy]

I think it's a mix, parts where we see tem being kind is possible since we know legoshi was able to be a friend to some degree. however it's likely that the parts where tem is embracing his carnivore friend despite risk is where the illusion happens. putting in nicer imagines so he can cope with eating his friend. it also allows him to have a nicer imagine of his friend instead of a scared "carnivores are evil" look. It makes sense then why he hates legoshi so much because he tells himself that legoshi is lieing and trying to ruin his friendship

[@astrollinganon7633]

I mean, maybe Tem did hug Riz, but the way Riz remembers it it's not right, as sweet as Tem was, i don't think he would be smiling like that, if he did, he should be nervous, showing fear, slowly approaching him, and sounding less confident. Specially considering that moments before he said "Would you really eat your own classmate?" And later use "Because I'm your best friend"

[@applerose46]

just watched all your vids in one sitting they are so good can't wait for more

[@raccoonchild]

Tem is kind, so he tried to live believing in the good inside every carnivore despite herbivore prejudice, but seeing his belief proved wrong by his friend made him react the way he did. And Riz, unable to cope with a Tem that wasn't sweet and all-accepting－a Tem that was openly rejecting his unrestrained self－repressed his memory and replaced it with an idealized one that validated his lust for meat. It's beautifully tragic.

[@ShadowSaberBaroxio]

Look at the curtains. They will tell you what's real and what's fake. Plus, the fake illusions generally include more "bishie sparkles" around the scene and characters.

[@lmg-desi-yt]

Honestly, I always thought it was in Rizzs head with the last part of that scene. I do think if Riz hadn't eaten Tem, they would have reconciled sincerely afterwards, but considering how scared Tem would gave been in the moment if it all, I don't think hed be able to think straight. When I thought the scene over after reading it, n than what happened with the panther and ant eater (I forget their names...) it reminded me of the first time I got bitten by a pitbull when playing got too rough, and while I wasnt injured, other than a bad bruise, it still scared me alot. So I think it makes the scene more sad that Riz might have reimagined it in the moment when he couldn't deal with his instincts taking over. Sorta like how Legosi imagines a smoky shadow creature talking to him when he attacked Haru.

[@arthursemeghinigallo3336]

That makes senses.And the names of the characters you forget are:Tao and Kibi,respectively.😁

[@Smeeeeeghead]

The way I interpreted the scene was that Tem knew he couldn't get away (i.e outrun a hungry bear) once he was in the lecture room, so either he tried to appeal to Ris' morals or knew he was going to die and tried to comfort Ris, knowing Ris couldn't stop himself. I don't think that messes up with the continuity too much as "All of you carnivores are the same!" could have been a panic response, after getting his arm busted up, rather than a truth.

[@dustytailstudios]

I have a personal headcanon that Riz made up the final bit of Tems death as a coping mechanism! Often times, people who do something or witness something very devistating, their brains will try to find ways to work around it, to protect the brains complex psyche. I know friends who are DID who suffered through TERRIBLE childhoods too graphic to explain. Their brains couldn't cope with what happened and ended up making new personalities to cope for them. With Riz, he's trying to justify his actions, cause his brain can't take the guilt of knowing his best friend died in his teeth,fighting and screaming. Note, Riz mentions there was marks on his own body from resistance..tem was fighting Riz as he died. He doesn't want to remember tem kicking and screaming while he died. His brain created a false memory of tem, embracing him in a warm hug and telling him it's ok,he loves him. When on actuality, tem was fighting for his life....

[@vossboss220]

Im pretty sure the true canon version of tem was probably a mix of the two from the two scenes but leaning more towards the second riz perspective version. riz's illusion mainly existed to justify his predation of him, because he wanted so badly to retain the idea of him and tem being the best of friends in his mind. To riz, ten accepting every part of him gave him an out, justifying his urges that led him to eat him, cuz if tem was totally fine with how he was, and his relationship with him made riz want to eat him, predation was the ultimate outcome and the "truest sign of friendship." of course this was all bs and riz knew it. dude was so wrapped in grief and guilt he self harmed, and he even acknowledged that the blood stains on him were made from tem trying to resist. despite how tragic their dynamic was, riz and tem were honestly really important to have happened because it gives us a perfect view of what legoshi and Haru could have been. what would have happened if legoshi had eaten Haru at the well? He might have ended up as lost and sick as riz had.

[@sceptilefury7956]

I love how this is on my birthday

[@nadillasakinah950]

Poor Tem! He’s so cute in the manga before he died Will you make a video where you review Beastars fanfics? Everyone is thirsty for Legosi or Louis😂

[@Djinn_Entonic]

And bill

[@nadillasakinah950]

@@Djinn_Entonic Bill?!

[@Djinn_Entonic]

@@nadillasakinah950 a lot of yaoi involving bill

[@nadillasakinah950]

@@Djinn_Entonic Oh my god! Thankfully mine was about a blind bat who plays music and his treatment at Cherryton Herbivores and carnivores gang up to bully a blind student

[@venumbra1177]

@@nadillasakinah950 bat gang let's go! I'm also working on a beastars bat fan character. What's the name of your fic?

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Seems more to me that once Tem realized Riz stopped taking his pills and Riz hurt Tem's arm, fear took over and caused Tem to regret ever reaching out to Riz and spit out all those hateful remarks. Riz, overcome with grief and betrayal, gives into his primal instincts in a moment of passion that breaks his mind and he kills Tem, mind unable to comprehend why Tem rejected him.

[@lizzyfredrick2363]

It can't be real because why would Ten have a negative reaction to the lack of pills, but then literally recon himself while he is running away

[@superfluousstuckupitude2512]

Great video! I can't wait for Riz's! Honestly to me the carnivores are the really tragic characters in these events. Being made to suppress parts of who they are to make herbivores feel comfortable. Maybe I read it wrong but I'm pretty sure Riz said that Tem hugging him and being compassionate towards him was something he made up in his mind. To make him feel less terrible about what happened. Even Riz says that his clothes were damaged because of a struggle. That seems to contradict him saying Tem went into his mouth with a smile. Even in that scene Tem's mouth is blacked out. Creating the idea that what Riz saw wasn't what was really happening. Which to me says what we saw in chapter 1 is what actually happened.

[@shadetee234]

Since the reveal in the Anime, this story is so tragic. If you haven't seen it yet, the animators did this scene beautifully

[@skinny-legend2557]

Personally, I think that after Tem told Riz that it was dangerous that he wasnt taking the pills Riz was proablably dissapointed (maybe even unsetteled) so thats why (irl) Riz attacked him but, in his dream he just wanted the old Tem (the nicer one) because he really got hurt by "all carnivores are monsters" and thats why we see Tem randomly forgive and accept Riz, while Riz acctually had his instincs take over and killed Tem,, who was proablably really scared rather than happy

[@yellow_jacket3260]

Good job on dubbing Riz Patrick, I feel like you actually kind of capture the personality of a bear in your voice, and I find that interesting

[@terrenceweeks6261]

I think there should be a story with Tem in the afterlife adjusting to his recent death and the events that followed, meeting fellow carnivores and herbivores in the afterlife along the way, and while Legoshi and Louis solve his murder, Tem slowly develops himself to coexist with carnivores in the afterlife after stating that they were monsters before his death. After his murder is solved, Tem thanks Legoshi and Louis for everything and also forgives Riz, wishing their friendship hadn't ended so tragically before passing on into a new life. Just an idea

[@0deadx21]

Considering the anime, which already knew all the stuff that happened in this arc, didn't remotely try to make room for any of this conversation in the lecture hall to take place, and considering what Riz said to Legoshi, it was FAKE. That "hug" was Tem struggling to get away from Riz's clutches. Quite the scars he left there.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

I'm surprised Tem was able to leave any lasting marks on Riz, since in Beastars Herbivores have blunted nails and are extremely frail. He may have left some minor scratches and friction burns but nothing more. I'm pretty sure the scars we see are from Riz self-harming out of guilt for devouring Tem, I seem to recall it being shown-stated that Riz cuts himself.

[@jesusdadiel9668]

I think that it's a combination of both maybe tem was being nice to riz and care for him but when his life was in danger he said everything he said before he died what was said after that must have been in riz head since we do a jump from tem embracing riz to riz having killed tem

[@mememan1949]

I think after tem ran away and said that he likes the carnivores strength that’s when riz was exaggerating it

[@randofloof]

I'm kinda thinking that the harsh version of Tem was a hallucination that Riz endured, because of his natural instincts. For example, in the scene where Legoshi tries to eat Haru, instinct takes over and kind of blacks everything else out, but, he was able to snap back when Haru managed to escape. With Riz though, it was harder to do that because he quit taking his pills. Pills can give you several side effects if you stop taking them abruptly, such as vomiting, dizziness, and nausea. What I'm thinking is that Riz was going through a bunch of dizziness and nausea at that time, which may have caused the hallucination of the harsher Tem. It's just a last minute theory though.

[@ImaginaryBadger]

FINALLY PATRICK SAID PARU RIGHT!!!!!!!

[@KamuiMiracle]

Yes I did lol

[@nekomaluna7370]

i’m so happy you keep making content even though the manga is over i know it’s still being animated but i loved beastars and kept up with all the updates and i was so disappointed and saddened with the ending because it felt so rushed i truly loved beastars and related to the characters and i was crushed that it ended like that your content rekindled my love for beastars

[@PeninsulaPaintings]

Tem: "Ahhhh! You'd really eat your classmate?? We took classes together! You carnivores are monsters!" Also Tem?: "(bleeding profusely)"I accept every part of you, Riz!" Yeah...no. This was (in my eyes) a COMPLETE fabrication in Riz's mind. It completely retcons the tone of the actual murder. Not to mention, in the original death scene, Riz lunges forward at Tem from a distance, teeth bared. Whilst in Riz's recollection, they were hugging and then Tem was gored. That makes no sense. Even Riz admitted to sugarcoating the truth to hide the guilt/pain.

[@alexanderleonardi3625]

we actually do know that tem hated riz for the murder. the version that embraced riz doesnt exist. riz remembered it differently because it was convenient. the way we saw it in chapter 1 was exactly how it happened.

[@BigBadWolf995]

What you consider poor planning by Paru...what I really think it is...is what Riz was seeing in his mind. As the guilt of him eating his friend ate him up so much and he started seeing a weird look into reality...that Tem wanted to be eaten. So I think this was what was going on in his mind.

[@loveydovey9733]

Riz did in fact exaggerate it. Thankfully someone already mentions that fateful chapter of his confession after witnessing Legosi and Louis team up, realizing he wanted the friendship THEY had. Knowing he didn't and couldn't have that with Tem. He also before then when reliving that scene describes as having marks around himself, signs of struggle. This means Tem fought HARD to try and keep himself from being eaten considering he left marks on a very powerful bear.

[@draconicfeline6177]

I think it's obvious that, from t he moment that we leave the hallway, Riz is telling himself a lie.

[@r3dak73d-6]

A couple few comments have already stated that Riz basically admitted that it was a delusion. I think there's a possibility that Tem tried to say something to calm him down. I don't remember exactly if it's in chapter 1 of the manga (I watched the anime then skimmed the part of the manga the anime has covered) but he even says something like "we were in the same classes together" which is a plea for his 'humanity.' I really didn't like the idea you stated that Tem hated carnivores. From the beginning he was known to hang around carnivores, even Legosi who wasn't really good with herbivores (or anything social) at all before the manga. I think it's very important to remember that during the struggle anything Tem said was out of fear. When (I forget his name. Also spoilers for the murder solution arc obviously) the anteater gets his arm ripped off on accident he becomes very harsh towards carnivores, stating that he doesn't want them near him (other than Legosi, and that's after being pushed because a carnivore's strength is needed). However, after the trauma he makes up with the cat who did it and as far as we're aware harbors no resentment for it. If Riz had stopped after hurting Tem on accident, even if he stopped right before devouring him, Tem likely would've forgiven him in the same way.

[@lucifer5788]

Thank you for these vids. Especially how this year has been going your content is killer 👍

[@kaijunasan4497]

So sad by somebody he knew :/