Developer Shows Why 2% Grade is Truly NOT The Best in Railroads Online!

Hey everyone and welcome back to more Railroads Online! Today we are back on Hyce's server to check out a proper 2% line from the smelter to the iron mine! A lot of people have been insisting that this is the way to go so Hyce decided to show me just how ridiculous a low grade line actually is!
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[@danielgamboa1200]

I strongly believe kAN is purposely playing at other worlds so he doesn't have to make the Y at the sawmill :)

[@timoffen3615]

Maybe, but then he doesn't get to mention it again

[@lowrangemaniac5326]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bertkooijmans4769]

He litterally has said If i dont build it you will keep commenting. So your probably right haha

[@Varjokissa]

I think he is just still fighting to get the Y straight :'D

[@ganzo6296]

Maybe he just has ADHD and legit keeps forgetting it, bc it isn't "funny"

[@evanporter5610]

Im 16 and I had wooden trains at home with a table just for it. It was great. Trains and dinosaurs are everything children need.

[@ashipcrafter2440]

I'm 14 and I also still love wooden trains

[@SilverMe2004]

My nephew if 7 and... well he had some wooden trains. But he does like dinosaurs. but the point is you can still buy wooden trains new at the shop

[@StixFerryMan]

Dinosaurs driving trains is even better😂🤣

[@WhiffyScarf]

@@StixFerryMan there’s literally a show called dinosaur trains that has that😂😂😂

[@sonicsupersam7793]

16 too, I loved my Thomas and friends toys. They were plastic since the wooden ones were too expensive, but I had all the cool sets. The quarry, the mine, the sheds, the coal loader. It was a mighty collection. Shame I sold it actually, if it wasn’t weird i think I’d still secretly love it. If I ever have kids, they better still be making that stuff so I can get some and play with them one day haha!

[@Egerit100]

13:05 in Spain, I went on some rack railway trains in Montserrat that have a grade of up to 15% and the hall in between the seats for the ppl to walk are literally stairs

[@matthewclark7885]

Trains like the ones up pikes peak and mt Washington (also called "cog railways") are amazing fun to ride, unfortunately I believe the one on pikes peak is currently closed, though I do recommend going up even if you don't get the chance to go up by train

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

:o

[@jasoncarroll4632]

Pikes peak cog rail is actually back up and running! Definitely worth checking out if anyone is in the area!

[@matthewclark7885]

@@jasoncarroll4632 It is? Good to hear! I've been up both the Pikes peak and Mt Washington cog railways and I loved both trips

[@sterlingodeaghaidh5086]

@@matthewclark7885 They came back up and running last year after redoing their gearing for a smoother ride, something about a worm gear instead of a cog setup.

[@SebastianD334]

The Manitou and Pikes Peak Railway is back up and running, and even has new trains from Stadler in Switzerland

[@traindestroyer4907]

I've been to the Cog railway at Mt. Washington with my dad and it is super steep and cool and all of the tilted engines are amazing to look at

[@indisputablefacts8507]

I've got a circuit that goes from the sawmill, to the iron mine, to the smelter, and back up to the sawmill. That has 2.5% max grades on the uphill part and is about as direct as you can get. That's possible just because the sawmill is midway in height between them. (The part from the iron mine down to the smelter is max 4%, IIRC)

[@insomniacbritgaming1632]

direct lines are possible with correct planning

[@Pyrrhist]

We're using the eureka! *Eureka does a happy barrel roll upon being mentioned*

[@Dumbrarere]

People complain that it shouldn't be more than 2%, when narrow gauge railroads/railways (as hyce said) typically ran 3%, 4% or 5%+, up to at most ten or so percent before a rack rail became necessary.

[@pyromaniacal13]

I love Hyce's whistle discipline. I should learn those codes myself.

[@SapioiT]

You need a 45 degrees or even 80 degrees rail to quickly go down from there to the closest useful point with minimal power usage. This way, you could send autonomous trains on a 2% incline, use the cheapest locomotive (maybe even the $150 one) to get to the foot of the mountain, then use stairs to get to the place from where you have a steep downhill rail, then catch the trains as they arrive to the station (or have someone else there processing the trains, like you did with Moonbo or Dapper a few days ago).

[@samueltheblonde]

So, my Grandpa loved trains, and he got us- all grandkids- the toy trains you talked about. Thank you for reminding me about them! I loved playing with them... I honestly don't care that they were unrealistic- so much fun.

[@lordsherifftakari4127]

my idea regarding a 2% or less grade wherever possible is to get the most out of whatever engine you have. a Class 70 Consolidation is going to pull a lot of train up a 2% grade and that means $$$ on delivery. also, running trains is half the fun of playing the game. so a long run gives you more play time and of course, enjoy the amazing scenery both natural and built. add a few passing sidings into the run and several friends running their own trains will make for exciting times. planning meets so players can pass and not come together on a bridge or in some remote corner and make a big mess.

[@Two_Bears]

That session was just plain fun. I had to rebuilt my track three times around the yard and sawmill because Eureka is a problem child with the track. Maybe it would work better if I would put in a wye at the sawmill myself. Please post more of these interesting videos. Maybe one where the rolling stock car flips and we see what physics does to the riders.

[@beanman2958]

I love i Kan just stands on the cart for the hole trip.

[@imaflyinturkey9775]

5:18 I was born in 05 and I had the wooden trainset growing up. And a Lego toy story electric train set.

[@suicidalbanananana]

Shout-out to Fleischmann model trains, had a uncle that had a big track in his basement with a load of those, great fun as a kid & really nice looking models. Like all good model train enthusiasts the guy was a little 'positively crazy' too, not sure if he used some guide or did it himself, but he had some insane hand built computer from basic parts that looked at resistance of the rails on a few dozen places on the track to give his normal desktop computer a perfect representation of all train locations, then because that wasn't crazy enough he modified all his locomotives & switches to have a attiny and a relay so he could control each train and switch from his desktop, that stuff blew my mind as a kid. Sadly he's no longer around but i'm sure he would've loved this game.

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

i love how kAN doesn’t curse in his videos, but also doesn’t censor anything XD

[@diamondapocalypse5019]

everywhere i go… i see his face

[@Trailmaker.]

us

[@HolyEnglish21]

I know right XD

[@Phx516]

@@diamondapocalypse5019 the ES&D railroad

[@DagoDuck]

3:18 Oh boy. I think they have to do some fixing for multiplayer some time in the future xD

[@Streaky100001]

It could be interesting to design a railroad with a gravity run in mind. Maybe you have an engine doing a circular route, drags some cars up to the top of the run, drops some of the cars not required for the rest of the run at the top, which then gravity run back to the start (loaded or unloaded) and are then collected by the engine the next time it comes round the run and are pulled back to the top again.

[@maximilianmorse9697]

Yay, they mentioned the Cog Railway!

[@adammullarkey4996]

12:30 There's also a rack-and-pinion railway up Mount Snowden in Wales.

[@laurensholthof]

We had the wooden train set too! I almost forgot about it, but it had these scalable bridges, it was so amazing

[@hankkellerman3011]

That was freaky. It did a Train Simulator 2021 thing. I am 65 and still loves all things in trains.

[@henrydarnold8693]

I have a friend that used to have a whole story of his house deticated to model trains in all scales. I love goinging up and roleplaying with the set up

[@lucpoux6612]

I had HO train models too ! We had a room where we did a very cool setup, with some loops and stations. It was very cool

[@shadeebean]

crazy how you didnt notice the iron hopper rerail itself at the end

[@SebastianD334]

One example of what he's talking about at about 13:20 is the Glacier Express line, which is operated partially by HGe 4/4 II now, which are electric locomotives which can run with regular wheels or cog powered.

[@mr.bonesIsOnline]

2:23 hise : domo arigato my brain : Domo arigato misuta Robotto Domo arigato misuta Robotto Mata au hi made Domo arigato misuta Robotto Himitsu wo shiritai You're wondering who I am (secret secret I've got a secret) Machine or mannequin (secret secret I've got a secret) With parts made in Japan (secret secret I've got a secret) I am the modern man I've got a secret I've been hiding under my skin My heart is human, my blood is boiling, my brain I.B.M. So if you see me acting strangely, don't be surprised I'm just a man who needed someone, and somewhere to hide To keep me alive, just keep me alive Somewhere to hide to keep me alive I'm not a robot without emotions, I'm not what you see I've come to help you with your problems, so we can be free I'm not a hero, I'm not a savior, forget what you know I'm just a man whose circumstances went beyond his control Beyond my control, we all need control I need control, we all need control I am the modern man (secret secret I've got a secret) Who hides behind a mask (secret secret I've got a secret) So no one else can see (secret secret I've got a secret) My true identity Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto, domo, domo Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto, domo, domo Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto Thank you very much, Mr. Roboto For doing the jobs nobody wants to And thank you very much, Mr. Roboto For helping me escape to where I needed to Thank you, thank you, thank you I want to thank you, please, thank you, oh yeah The problem's plain to see, too much technology Machines to save our lives, machines dehumanize The time has come at last (secret secret I've got a secret) To throw away this mask (secret secret I've got a secret) Now everyone can see (secret secret I've got a secret) My true identity I'm Kilroy! Kilroy! Kilroy! Kilroy!

[@supernova12458]

Canadian weather is amazing lol. Snow has been nuts the last two days

[@minecraftworshipper2967]

I was in a blizzard today as well, I live in Colgate ND

[@VestedUTuber]

"When you're a kid, model trains are the best" I mean, they're pretty cool even for adults. Everything you're doing in Railroads Online and then some can be done on a scale model layout. There's a club I go to that has a huge N-scale layout that runs from Pittsburg to Columbus (although only Pittsburg is modeled, Columbus is the staging yard) with a bunch of industries and two separate marshaling yards along the route. I go during their open house events (since I haven't registered for membership yet) and I can bring my own equipment.

[@TheXkyneticx]

I still think 2% grade with a shunt yard up top would be better. Using the cooke to bring more up per run and then you wouldn't have to run the line as much but instead just shunt in the beams / planks as needed and unload the iron ore.

[@Finnwolf88]

I built my 1.5% from sawmill to the iron mine yesterday and funnily enough I have almost exactly the same setup as that track has after 14:30 of the video.

[@Star.fox96]

I am laughing with in the first 20 seconds, this is going to be a amazing video

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

the good ol ES&D

[@KarolOfGutovo]

There is a railway going up a small mountain/large hill with a flat top and a bunch of facilities there. It goes at about 30-40%, and there are two cars connected by a line so when one is going up it is pulled by the one that's going down, with a siding in the middle where they go past eachother. I think that *could* be a viable way to get a mine line if we could use lines like that, just push down a full set down, have it pull up an empty one and shunt it around with a porter.

[@quentintin1]

it's called a funicular and it's mostly used as passenger service for hauling mine produce downhill to treatment or shipping plants there is already a system existing, they are called ropeways, you have a series on gondolas attached on a cable that run continuously, you load them up at the mine and let them go down, pulling the empty cars up the last ropeway in England is used to haul shale and works with gravity like that, Tom Scott did a video on it here on the youdubs

[@mrmctenthoff2238]

Here in germany we have this relativly famous narrow gauge railroad in this low mountain range called the Harz, its got rack railroad to, I just thought of it, before you were talking about it, they are using just old engines there to

[@MizzurWalrus]

it was really cool of hyce’s cousin robohyce to come do an episode today!

[@stevepittman3770]

20:43 Ya blew the doors right off it!

[@joh_kep3248]

Imagine if they added a banking feature for curves. Trains would be goin a lot faster.

[@sterlingodeaghaidh5086]

I want to go on the Pikes Peak cog railway one day, I go to the springs a lot and its always so cool seeing it run.

[@samblackstone3400]

It's super fun.

[@jellevanmourik8250]

One crazy roller-coaster, please :D

[@SebastianD334]

Rack railways actually exist up to 48%, but that one (pilatus railway) uses a different gear system, with gears gripping from both sides, instead of the top, as that would start slipping and falling off.

[@commandereye-can2919]

When you were talking about the one in Washington were you talking about DC or Washington because I know about a place called Black diamond used to be a coal mining place and they have a lot of trains that were very very very old and very historic it was such a cool time and it Is like 30 minutes away from my house so I can bike there it’s really cool

[@Niklas.K95]

Perfect timing to save me from going insane That was a close call. I wanted to do exactly that but i saw the video first

[@Guillo78]

6:58 he started to sound like the portal robot

[@J05HY06]

The wooden train set was elite when I was a bit younger the ones with magnets

[@chasesrailwaylinesrr6447]

I was waiting for this video to watch the eureka do triple back flips

[@Moronic.Movies]

Kan your one of the reasons I started making videos,thanks man

[@cjslime8847]

I just had the craziest idea a normal track on the way up but down have a different track and have it a lot steeper and have it built so the train doesn’t fall off

[@TacoCity291]

Welcome to Canada bud :)

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

8:22 fun roller coaste- you should try and make a roller coaster in this game tho

[@samgineer9857]

10:07 Im not even playing or in VR and that vertical drop makes my stomach vertically drop! O_O

[@Sh00ming]

You going to let Hyce troll you in such a manor? I feel like revenge is in order!

[@nisssin4474]

scrap man: *making a conplicated walking mechanism* kan: haha car go wee

[@FM60260]

0:07 Makes my company name "Buttsqueak Railroad" (BSRR) seem rather professional

[@1MBStudios]

"the robot voice is definitely my internet and not Hyce" Oh boy, Hyce is the man with the super expensive audio setup that has audio issues every time he streams. This sounds like he always does lol.

[@commandereye-can2919]

The wooden trains are called BRIO that’s just the name on the boxes and tracks and you said your gettin. Old I’m twelve and these toys are the foundations of my creativity

[@sthomas6369]

Eureka barrel roll. That should be a feature!

[@abyssminiaturestudios6103]

Bout 10 years ago r so got to take the Silverton mining town line, was worth every penny. Recommended for sure

[@launcesmechanist9578]

Hey kAN, no shame in being a little older. I had a wooden train set as well as the entire die-cast Thomas the Tank Engine set growing up. Branched into Lionel trains momentarily until High School.

[@kleetus92]

Yeah, let's define 'a little older' I'm going to be 48 on friday... do you have me beat?

[@launcesmechanist9578]

@@kleetus92 Nope, 33 this July.

[@kleetus92]

@@launcesmechanist9578 I meant Hyce, but either way...

[@BunchaSnakes]

Eureka is out here giving 10 points for griffendore with that triple flip.

[@linguinizucc9246]

No one is too old to like wooden trains. Those things are baller

[@DorkDavidIsCrazy]

There might be a problem between the calculations of the physicals for Hunting osculation.

[@vega1287]

or sometimes the couplers on the heisler start flating wich actally allows you to atill put a chain in it

[@rus0004]

Hyce sounds like a robot going through puberty

[@theweldingpanzer4841]

I had a wooden train set until I was fourteen, I am seventeen now. Do not worry about dating yourself kAN.

[@eagle_412]

Love hyces robot voice

[@devttyUSB0]

Hyce still had the AutoTune filter enabled on his voice chat. :)

[@VestedUTuber]

Electric trains? Damnit, now I want them to add all the first-generation RhB electric locomotives...

[@emaster360xlol3]

I remember my wooden train sets we still have them

[@tstuart9148]

Okay I was a bit wrong about the gradient but a transfer yard would make organizing trains a bit more easyer.

[@jaunusender6166]

Funny enough, the blizzard is hitting my ares when it uploaded.

[@superdave6889]

would be cool to eventually see a Swiss Ge 6/6 Rhaetian Krokodil meter gauge loco.

[@Narpets2112]

I like that track.

[@thefool4492]

"DO A BARREL ROLL! PRESS A TO BRAKE!"

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

doa flip

[@K10wNs-Shed]

Being one of the mad Aussies fixing this section of track, I can confirm its not 2% all the way. There are many sections with grade lower than 2% which make the line excessively long. My line to the iron mine is 1.5% and only half the distance.

[@isaiahgreen8794]

As a question for hyce when are you going to add the big boy

[@theannoyingbanana8730]

I like how u don't sweat but it says it on the side of the caboose

[@pseudotasuki]

Mt. Washington is in New Hampshire!!! *flips table*

[@cliff4377]

so, I guess I must build several gravity lines L0L I think this is a challenge. Thanks Guys!

[@karimarvargas8603]

3:20 Tran go spin weeeeeeeeeee

[@silverpix3291]

I had wooden train set but I then got geo track

[@guzinpqsim4571]

is this like Uintah Railway? just thought it looked pretty non-conventional for a normal railway.

[@Matty12787]

Ahahaha, hyce being a developer.. Your funny!

[@therealperegrine]

Damn, Developer so sure about what he's saying that he whipped out the autotune, xD ;)

[@Ethaniel1999]

I remember when I was in 4-k I would yell at other kids for playing with the wooden trains wrong.

[@loganjoy-koer5936]

I heard a train head through town while I was watching this video

[@gamingodyssey8295]

I managed to make a 2% all the way up from the sawmill but not really the best for bringing iron up and down

[@seconddaymusic8393]

Mt. Washington is in Vermont? *Sad New Hampshire noises*

[@warrenwise8127]

How do I get my trains to run on the Beta track, they just fall through,

[@alyx8522]

There is a large model train show twice a near where I live

[@jakerulesgaming1124]

Been trying to get into this game but saddly dont have any dudes to play with. Also I feel like I cant move any trains at all after the physics updates

[@stormfire962imastarcitizen5]

What the developer needs to do in this game which is done in other games and works quite well. Is that they need implement a grid system over the top of the map throughout it and allow us to snap to the grid while at the same time making curves. If they did this it would make it very easy to lay our tracks and have them connect properly without any problems. The current system which they are using is very clumsy at best and makes it extremely difficult for us the users to properly lay out the track and not have any problems occur along the way. Because if this was to be done in real world methods. A bunch of people would be out taking a transom measuring the land and planning exactly where to go and have every single point properly laid out from point a to point B to build a track. Because as it stands right now we the users have very limited use of tools and it makes it extremely difficult for us to lay out the tracks and this is one of the reasons why I am not playing the game. The developer needs to seriously start thinking about putting a grid system on the map and stop beating around the bush. Cause if they did people would find the game more enjoyable they could push the development along further and the game would be selling better. Plus I think it would actually minimize a lot of unnecessary debugging that is going on because of this very clumsy system they have set up.

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

“it’s super smooth, until it wasn’t”

[@treegodx5115]

Uuuuuh let's not question the tender :/

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

“perfect” kAN says while theres a iron car on the in a pit and a derailed car still somewhat on the rails

[@AgentSpockAgentSpock]

Actually cursed that sharp was on Narrow Gauge Railroad

[@DearthXalex]

train sets and linkoln logs!

[@roccov3614]

Where does the term ES&D come from? In context it sounded as if it was something kAN said, but I've never heard him say it.

[@ValentineC137]

It’s an internet thing that just kinda happened a while ago

[@TheCanadianRailfanner]

Can you play train frontier classic?