Running A Tightrope: DOOM's Most Precarious Speedrun

[@PoisonedAl]

No... Don't make a KZbin comment correcting him for calling them "floating skulls." Don't be "that guy" ... ... OH FFS! THEY ARE CALLED LOST SOULS!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

[@Rastadogg85]

I'm 7 minutes in and he's called them Lost Souls 4 times and floating skulls once. The fuck is your point my man?

[@karljobst]

Its just a bit of fun

[@PanterD2S]

@@karljobst We were discussing if thats an east german accent maybe? "Duum" :D However, "floating skulls" is totally ok as an explanation/description - everybody will know what is meant.

[@karljobst]

If i have a bit of german/austrian accent thats plausible as my dad is austrian and my grandparents are german.

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

I propose a compromise, Lost Skulls.

[@TheReloader]

10:07 “I hate ledges.” 13:06 “I love ledges.” What a great character arc.

[@kyucumbear]

I have a slight suspicion that this might be Stockholm Syndrome at play here.

[@chip2508]

23 years later, he's legally married to them.

[@AndGoatz04]

Top ten anime character arcs

[@587180]

Top ten anime plot twist 😂

[@Hhuiza0]

Tsunderes in a nutshell

[@Zephyrbal]

The Chasm or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Ledge

[@samdoc5275]

Holy shit you beat me to it ahaha

[@EQuisby]

How I met your ledge

[@chriswelcome8102]

Nice dude

[@Minnevan]

Dude where’s my ledge?

[@misterkaos.357]

Ow the ledge

[@nvhnch]

Early runs: meticulous ledge walking Late runs: Tony hawk's pro skater ledge manouvers

[@TheGary108]

Satan: Don’t worry, kickflipping doomguy isn’t real. He can’t hurt you. Kickflipping Doomguy:

[@Zeromaru42]

They went from Dark Souls 1 to Devil May Cry 5.

[@metalgearsolidsnake6978]

Spiderman into SPIDERVERSE> YES GOOD DOOM!!

[@Salmonator2000]

Funny thing is, Doomguy is an actual character in the PC version of Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3. So kickflipping Doomguy is, in fact, real.

[@BigBoris]

FS 50-50 + Big Rail 6,735 x 6

[@nameisflow]

"Not by just 1 or 2 seconds, but by 3 seconds" Damn

[@valera4567]

Super Mario Bros. speedruns be like "OMG GUYS I IMPROVED WR BY 0.1 S FFS YEAH!!"

[@purdyd2]

@@valera4567 a record is a record

[@hudde814]

@@purdyd2 you can't say it's only 0.1 seconds

[@EveryTimeV2]

It mirrors real sport times. You'd think 1 Second isn't a lot, but this is really the part of the game where even getting a few frames extra is an olympic feat.

[@Artrysa]

For a speed run that's quite a big difference. Depending on what run and on how many times the record has already been improved of course.

[@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies]

'Love the ledges, and they love me' He genuinely started to sound insane at that point.. I guess speedrunning chasm for a year will do that to a man..

[@gerrardweatherlight2962]

I know that this video has been uploaded for a while, but I was just looking for someone who had posted precisely this. When I heard that in the video it crept me out. It's crazy how much some people put at risk their health (in this case their mental health) to beat a record of any kind.

[@dl-3780]

Haha! It sure does! You should try it...

[@AsimSiddiqui007]

@@gerrardweatherlight2962 how can these things badly affect mental health?

[@brutpenta]

@@AsimSiddiqui007 "The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result." -Einstein

[@joshs1555]

I heard that in the essence of... This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will ...

[@dslyecxi]

Your presentation is fantastic. I've watched a few of your Quake and Doom videos now and each one has been really entertaining from start to finish.

[@memperkasaya2078]

I love your arma 3 videos!!!!!!!!

[@ianxe]

Agreed Dyslecxi

[@tannercole3300]

Yeah Karl, you're an absolute LEGEND

[@theglitchedmissile9239]

Hello arma 3 player

[@TheFigureofspeech]

this is the most granular explanation of a subject I have zero interest in but somehow I can't stop watching.

[@aaz1992]

it's some serious shit

[@kos2919]

What make this topic so alluring for people who don't even speedrun is that how with time and dedication someone can reach what deemed impossible and also competitive nature of it.

[@clashmanthethird]

What do you mean you have 0 interest in Doom

[@Dvoid107]

@@kos2919 That and these vids have great editing/narration

[@elhomo6406]

@@kos2919 or some say kosm

[@Azraeltheangelofdeath]

I like how in the beginning they're just inching their way across the ledges and by the end they're just jumping and gliding along them like they're skating not even worrying about falling in

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

This is exactly what skiing feels like tbh. You learn to stop trying to move like a human being, just like here where you need to stop moving like there are ledges.

[@gurrekurre1726]

Now they L O V E ledges

[@KodyLapointe]

Clockwork Kirlia was a sponsored backcountry skier for many years and i still felt human. good way to die if you start thinking weird like that.

[@ChromatestJPantsmaker]

Think about the technology players had to have in 1997 to record a speed run. Every goof up would required a bunch of steps to be repeated, hard drive space filling up, etc. Now, computers have so much more power that it could be streamed in real time online with a couple of button clicks.

[@vez3834]

@@ChromatestJPantsmaker Karl explained this in another video. Doom and quake use "demos" which are basically really small files that capture the movement perfectly. That's why these runs are such good quality.

[@SF3L]

I noticed something on Looper’s run, when he went through the toxic waste, he only took 5 ticks if damage instead of the other runner’s 6 ticks. That has convinced me that Looper had near perfect movement while running through the the toxic waste.

[@darkriot98]

Well, it's possible to get 5 ticks of damage even with SR40, but it requires luck, as toxic waste damages every 0.9s, no matter where doomguy is. I know that it's been lots of time, but whatever, just wanted to say the thing :)

[@umbaupause]

@@darkriot98 Yeah, but the cycle would always start on the same tic, no? So he must be just that tiny bit faster still.

[@Krass.Estranged]

Having run the level a lot i think it has to with navigating the corners smoothly in sync with the view bob. I can definitely tell which runs i should have 75% and which runs I should have 70% by my own movement.

[@onikoneko]

Keep in mind damage tics aren't determined by when you fall in the toxic waste, but when the level starts, so he could have had more perfected movement *somewhere* in the level that could have offset the time so he could fall in between tics and only get five instead of six.

[@SullySadface]

Never stop these. You're very good at explaining and cataloging speedrunning history and breaking down tricks.

[@MrLondonGo]

Yes and nice touches like not showing the final time until the end of Loopers WR run, excellent content as always.

[@ChromeTecNina]

I love this. As a person who just BARELY got into DOOM Classic in 2018 I've been absolutely obsessed with it. I've been playing it almost exclusively Project Brutality, but the game is incredible no matter how you play it. Watching these makes me love it even more.

[@VictoryfortheFreeman]

Are you loss?

[@bucketdozer5325]

@@VictoryfortheFreeman I think he is.

[@quarreneverett4767]

@@ChromeTecNina brutal doom and map pack also doom 2 facination

[@8bitorgy]

i just love how this narrator makes these people sound like the pantheon of immortals

[@AdonMaster]

absolute legends, u mean

[@moxiethegamebunny937]

That's because they are. Mortal men need not apply.

[@hemansx]

This sounds like blasphemy, let's get him boys

[@mu_te3472]

@ComocosonoEWL stfu

[@outdater9302]

They are so he doesn't need the try

[@AdamCDagg]

The developing romance between demonlord and the ledges was a welcome twist in his character arc

[@alahatim]

lols

[@Kortexual]

Damn hearing that Demonlord never held the record for Chasm ever again made me a little sad inside...

[@mortem4342]

I was rooting for him the whole time...

[@turtIenator]

Mortem same

[@PlanetCapeStudios]

:(

[@tostie3110]

He still had to do lots of discoveries, so despite not holding the record, still worth the fame

[@blengdiabloed7335]

Demonlord is a beast

[@LuLzMrTom]

It's great that there is so much saved footage and documentation for these records that you can make such an in depth video of events that happened over 20 years ago

[@5LAMRY]

It really is amazing. I ran into watching this Speedrun History stuff after it appeared in my Recommendations 7-8 months ago. Learning about all these Absolute Legends and being able to see footage from 20+ years ago is remarkable! So glad I found this community it's so cool to watch!

[@ThatHomestar]

Demo files were a genius way of being able to watch someone's replay while keeping filesizes to a minimum. I wish more games still had this kind of feature.

[@T3sl4]

That's the best part, it's not even footage, just demos. Lightweight, easily shared, and usually accurate. (Downside: rarely, glitches cause desyncs, or different ports suffer from incompatibility.) Absolutely the case that Doom created speedrunning as we know it!

[@wslaxmiddy]

For a lot of games that is true, but for doom it's even better as others have said the runs were saved as txt files of the exact button presses(saved by the ga,e) that anyone could send and receive easily even on dial up that now you plug them into doom and can watch in 2019 quality

[@Weetunet]

@@myself8354 There is already such a category: tool-assisted speedrunning.

[@dotcom137]

_"This was however, before I started to love all ledges, all of them... and they me."_ Yep. The guy just went mad crazy.

[@dl-3780]

I actually thought it was pretty funny when I wrote it. Made peace with 'em with this recording, and left it at that..

[@SeaSerpentLevi]

@@dl-3780 are you joking? thats actually how im going to approach life from now on gotta glide trough life's ledges lol you're a legend man :')

[@narnianninja4964]

@@SeaSerpentLevi I don't think it's the real one. His account was made a year after this video.

[@rizaadon]

I actually think it's him

[@beautifulaffliction1742]

Rizaadxn no

[@msedlic80]

Amazing video Karl, lots of fun memories came out when watching this. History of "The Chasm" was indeed something special, and it is what made me enter that seemingly endless battle for the "optimal" time :). 36 sec run is my personal favorite and hardest run I ever done. It was pure good old sr40 running :). Over the years I've got many positive feedbacks from doom community about my work and it felt good, each time, thanks to everyone for that btw...but man your introduction to me in the video was true blast :). Made me even blush a little and I thank u for that sir. Also I red all the comments. U guys made me realize just how old I am :) but also U made me satisfied to see there are so many of you who still rememeber/play this great game. Seeing this video makes me feel like all those hours spent on playing doom worth something. As a proud father of two young boys now I have something cool to show them, which involves their father youth.

[@DongHigh]

Marijo Sedlic An outstanding comment married an outstanding video. Excellent job, one and all. :) :)

[@lucifugerofocale5847]

epic gamer

[@miketothe2ndpwr]

Do you make videos anywhere? would love to watch you play just about anything.

[@necastavasbriga5989]

Vrhunski odradjeno nema sta, svaka cast

[@NumberD2000]

you're a legend dude

[@drgzy3839]

The ledges drove him so mad he began loving them

[@Aikisbest]

I wonder if that's how Sheogorath got started with cheese.

[@handsomebrick]

Stockholm Syndrome

[@a3msty]

@@handsomebrick oh man I was going to comment that :(

[@stormwatcheagle5448]

Dr. Doomlove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Ledges

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

He managed to make the ledges his bitches.

[@TheFallorn]

Me looking at those walkways: “Hello you absolute ledges.”

[@topwargear]

HAHAHHA

[@michaelenz7039]

... I need the police this man is the most halarios man ever

[@evrodrill]

@@michaelenz7039 is your name in KZbin what i think it is

[@michaelenz7039]

@@evrodrill ?

[@evrodrill]

@@michaelenz7039 what

[@aoeji]

A few things. 1: Demonlord is a legend. He was the one who invented this speedrun. 2: Sedlo is amazing. I could not get anywhere close to his runs even with years of practice. 3: Looper is a god at this game. let the numbers speak for themselves. 4: it's kinda amazing that even after all these years, doom is still one of the spookiest first-person shooters out there. I hope you all have a good day, and Especially you, Looper, if you're reading this.

[@lyca0n535]

I would call them all insane, speedrunning looks so weird to us normies just trying to enjoy games non masochistically 😂

[@stefanm.734]

Demonlord also lost his mind, judging by his final message. "The secret is to really love those ledges.. And I do." "...I started to love ledges, all of them.. and they me. They let me through with a time of 45."

[@ThomasMink]

@@stefanm.734 Probably played more Chasm than all of us normies combined to get that 45.. and with that other guy throwing the slight jab out there saying that Demonlord could only maybe beat the 48 by a second or two.. dude probably held back submitting some 46 and 47 runs just out of spite.

[@dl-3780]

@@ThomasMink I probably did. But it was still just for fun at the time. An obsession to some degree perheps, but not anywhere near the Sedlo, Looper runs..

[@DFFilmmaker]

@@dl-3780 are you even real? -_-

[@kjn3350]

It's hilarious how the comments are read out like in a documentary of Ancient Rome or something.

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

I love how big history is.

[@thugasaurusrex6004]

Yea seriously. It's fantastic

[@redwolfe7049]

I know. Isn't it great?

[@mada1082]

"Come on Looper we're about to cut the cake." "Just give me 32 seconds!"

[@michaelenz7039]

Hah Awesome

[@jenniferbarangan1502]

"But we don't have time!" "I'm speedrunning the Chasm!" "Okay! Okay! We'll wait for you."

[@eben7248]

"not by just 1 or 2 seconds, but by *_3 seconds_* "

[@scanbbb]

One second is a lot of improvement in wr speed runs. An extra three seconds is massive.

[@YituTG]

Especially in a speedrun where the world record is below one minute

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

Mind. Blown.

[@topwargear]

@@YituTGand some records one frame or two frames is a lot

[@thebe_stone]

HOLY FRICK

[@eggofwah4852]

i was rooting for demonlord the whole time. i'm glad he had a happy ending

[@chchedda]

Did he go to a Thai brothel?

[@KayKay-ms4le]

''He is now living a happy life with ledges''

[@SeaSerpentLevi]

@@chchedda more like Thai Ledgethel

[@Artician]

@@SeaSerpentLevi lmao

[@Kourumeme]

He’s like late 40s now. Heck, most of the doom speed runners back then are like old, on their late 30s to 40s.

[@doozy5184]

"Doom is a very fast paced game" Me, slowly wandering around maps, looking for health pickups while praying there isn't some demon around a corner: "Yeah right"

[@meisterfrau99]

Yeah fast paced if you don't care about getting all secrets and kills. Some people don't but I love getting 100% everything

[@dankerbell]

bruh that ain't the doom experience

[@brutpenta]

dankerbell sure bud, tell that to 90s gamers

[@Rayer24]

​@@brutpenta BUDSTER

[@ThePhrog714]

@@dankerbelldoom is what you want it to be

[@sl9sl9]

I thought I'd seen it all in speedrunning. Crazy glitches, out of bounds, disassembling game code to find any advantage. But finding and abusing a rare rounding error in the trigonometry code? That is some seriously next level shit! And even that wasn't enough, he discovered and used a second brand new technique (pink demon 'bouncing' or momentum conservation) in the same section of the same run. And all this Herculean effort just managed to save 1 second. ONE SECOND. I'll just leave that there to let it sink in.

[@subtlewookiee]

Check out SMB1 speedruns that are so insanely optimized that they have tricks that require 3-4 frame perfect setups to save 0.35 seconds, or even just a few frames. I used to think SMB1 speedruns were boring until I realized just how insanely talented and determined these runners are.

[@exantiuse497]

I assume you haven't seen the video on Mario 64 tool assisted speedrun. That's even crazier than this Granted it's not done just to save 1 second but still...

[@tyrelnorgaard1530]

Speed runners will spent 100 hours to save 1 second!!

[@ade8890]

Well to be fair, it's not like they were code scrumming and found the exploit. They experienced a scenario where running along the wall made them faster, rather than slower, then sought to find the underlying cause of the bug to enable them to maximize the exploit where ever possible.

[@eugeniomangioneaguirre8367]

You've put your heart and soul into making this video. Commentary: 10/10✔ Explanations about game mechanics for dummies like me: 10/10✔ It even has chronological arrangement. You definitely got my like

[@roryos]

Need to appreciate the fact DOOM used demo files for recordings so even 2 and a half decades later we can see exactly what those players did down to the exact input. It's like a nostalgic time capsule.

[@sillypenta]

"You just need to know where to run, and be very fast." Words to live by

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

It really is ironic that FPSes and not Sonic The Hedgehog games are the biggest _speedrunning_ games.

[@Optimus6128]

"You just need to look down and haul your ass."

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

exactly if you know the map you can run all the way through the map and I know it well enough to do that.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

@@voxel9470 In-game doesn't always match in-lore. And _whoosh_

[@kruppcorp2359]

@@CarbonRollerCaco woooosh*

[@stug3719]

Man, I really admire Sedlo's commitment to perfecting one map. He practiced it for years and kept improving. That's awesome.

[@heimdall1973]

That's just hope some compete, whatever the competition. The professional hurdle runners, mountain bikers, whatever, will put loads of effort, training, perfecting techniques, eat food with perfect nutritional value etc. just to gain a fraction of a second... It's just how seriously you take the competition, and that's exactly what game speedruns are, a series of competitions. And just like some athletes will inject illegal performance boosting substances, some game speedrunners will use performance boosting slowed down engine or other cheats just to be able to put their name where it doesn't belong.

[@Vextrove]

I love how Sedlo stuck with his vision and kept running the ledges

[@hat1324]

The balls on that guy lol "new strat? Hold that thought, need to get WR with the old strat first" And then immediately gets 0:34 with the new strat once business is settled

[@Rocky712_]

@@hat1324 Especially because it took him 1.5yrs after the discovery of the new strat + the time he grinded before the strategy was discovered.

[@SylviaRustyFae]

Random little thing i love about Sedlo's 37 sec run; in it, he runs thru the item pickups that DemonLord originally went out of his way to pickup, before findin out he didnt need to pick them up at all Its nice to see that part come full circle from a part of the run that was a time loss to go out of the way to pick it up; but now its a time loss to go out of the way to avoid pickin it up xD

[@user-gw8kh1dx4c]

The last Doom vid was one of the best pieces you've ever made. I'm glad you're making more content on this legendary game.

[@connorwilliams3451]

Fellow avalanche fan I see...

[@ABCkirja]

i'm so speechless of what a system id software had implemented with the recordings, all the way back in those times. not just the recordings even, but also messages by users and some additional files. that's crazy, way ahead of their time. the way how well the video is made with the good journalist taste, it's like a documentary between the great slayers of past days who are now mostly closer to middle-aged men, to say the least. maybe in a 100 years, when games will be holograms or microchips for you to close your eyes and play, these DOOM recordings will be like the holy scriptures of gaming.

[@dl-3780]

And don't forget Death Match and how revolutionizing that was in it's own. Doom 2 was, is, and will always be the greatest game ever made.

[@meyes5671]

The guys at ID said they were making the best game of all time during pre-release and they fucking delivered.

[@spitgorge2021]

@@dl-3780 certainly the most revolutionary game, but the title of best is purely a subjective matter.

[@MrNachoChannel]

This video was beyond fascinating. Watching the complete history of a speed run for a particular map really showed how intricate these things are. As an outsider with only passing knowledge of the community this really opened my eyes to how much passion is given to it. Kudos to this video.

[@nicholasleclerc1583]

17:53 Damn, imagine being one of the early, mid-90s Doom speed-runners hearing this : “GoD i WaS dUmB bAcK tHeN, tAlKiNg AbOuT 38 bEiNg OpTiMaL”

[@nicholasleclerc1583]

18:00 "[His] 0:37 was amazing, but again, it wasn't perfect."

[@SeaSerpentLevi]

Gotta love old days internet lol Thats pretty much every forum in a nutshell in art comunities you would see people talking things like "uh, that was like a 10 min sketch, i really was not paying attention to it while doing, actually it was not even me doing, i gave a pencil to my grandma for her to hold with her feet and then telling her what to do, and all this while doing pushups. OBS: I was not even at home.... But yeah didnt turned out good, still wanted to share this piece of crap but it isnt really my best", and then the piece: A fucking masterpiece you would need 1 month to paint xD God i did a ton of exageration here xD I got a bit carried away by nostalgia. Sometimes it could get fucking toxic but then, to some extent, is impossible not to miss those times.

[@SeaSerpentLevi]

@@maliant16 sorry?

[@TheEloheim]

Those text descriptions by the runners are amazing documentation!

[@dafi1790]

Demonlord walked so they can run :')

[@SeaSerpentLevi]

true legend

[@Oceancat01]

And then he full on sprinted when they started running

[@shhs1227]

I mean he took everything he learned from their runs and did better basically every time

[@prgalois]

So cute

[@NootalieWalf]

Super underrated comment

[@ChargeJN]

Demonlord, on The Chasm: “I gotta wash the ledges, I gotta date the ledges, I GOTTA *BE* THE LEDGES!”

[@SpiralPegasus]

GOTTA LEDGE FAST

[@francopoma2487]

...AND CUM ON THOSE LEDGES Damn!

[@dl-3780]

Bruce Lee: Be like water

[@_j_t_p_]

Gotta go quick!

[@maximusstorm1215]

Is this a SpongeBob reference? Sounds familiar.

[@whatis112-s2i]

normal people: Yesss I'm finally done with this level speedrunners: *I'll F*ckin do it again*

[@gozinta82]

People who think the PAR times for the level were expected to be beaten. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@doomfanman5534]

this is a goofy meme

[@kos2919]

If you watch streaming of speedrunners it's like normal occurrence of restarting the game for every slip up they did. 99% of speedrun stream people tend to talk to each other about random stuff and only 1% when they focus on the screen to see possible record breaking moment

[@gozinta82]

@@kos2919 That's one of the many reasons I tend to watch it after the stream. ;)

[@kos2919]

@@gozinta82 but talking to fellow viewers tend to create friendship and great discussion about stuff.

[@magencrisis1682]

"Kai's record would only last four days" The eternal speedrunner curse.

[@borkerman]

The record did a speesrun of it's own

[@kritz9997]

23:48 “The record remained-“ Me: Good Job Sedlo, the final best speedru- “Until 2004” Me: WHEN DOES IT END

[@This_side_of_the_internet]

Demons be like: I think someone entered our domain a few minutes ago. Not sure. All i've seen was a green flash...

[@faizan8679]

Jorge C. M. be like

[@This_side_of_the_internet]

@@JorgetePanete Yeah, i used "be like" as a reference to one old gag. And this sentence don't work with are*. "Demons are scary\stinky\sexy\angry. Or you can say: Demons are very surpriced, because someone... But in my case i meant: "Demons would say something like".

[@want-diversecontent3887]

Jorge C. M. Congratulations, this is definitely not a joke and you corrected someone! You deserve anything gou want!

[@This_side_of_the_internet]

@@want-diversecontent3887 I want a hug.

[@This_side_of_the_internet]

@christakisf Christakisf aww, thanks mate! Here, have it back!

[@Kapin05]

Perhaps The Chasm could be a useful training tool for speedrunners looking to optimise their movement. It forces you to run a path with confidence and precision, which is a skill that could apply well to more barren levels.

[@medicindisquise4271]

"The secret is to love those ledges..." *one speedrun later* I REALLY hate those ledges

[@sufoh9913]

@Yunus EMRE What?

[@sharpen193]

@@sufoh9913 report them for unwanted content

[@nmmeswey3584]

@@sharpen193 you must be fun at parties

[@sharpen193]

@@nmmeswey3584 What?? If a dude comes in like that in my party, we all kicking him out lmao

[@lennyface5314]

@Yunus EMRE Is this a copy pasta meme or something?

[@joshkary5040]

"This is the epitome of human kind achievement, and I cannot think of a more literal perfect run ever existing. Everyone can begin marveling at how far life has taken us." "Two days later the record was taken down by 15 seconds."

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

It's really mind blowing to see how much time and effort that went into improving this particular speedrun

[@Schrodingers_kid]

Still want green beard?

[@kenjinuma]

See what I mean, eveywhere.

[@williamdavila6702]

min bloguin*

[@dragonclaw4159]

I went to his channel. His channel description is just some guy who comments for fun. He has one video with 4.1 million views. That's why he's verified.

[@TanskanDogi]

Wait that was 30 minutes dude I've seen 5 minute clips longer than this. Entertaining as hell

[@theelitegenius2212]

Damn didn’t notice till u pointed it out

[@DrMurdercock]

Holy shit, that was 30 minutes? Wtf. Does it glitch out an skip or something? That was supppppppppppppper weird.

[@marshroverv5632]

[KING CRIMSON]

[@richcast66]

IKR. I legit thought it was 18 minutes or something

[@intensellylit4100]

The laws of time disagree.

[@poppers7317]

"maybe I don't take the time to get the rad suit and just lose some hp" like a caveman who just discovered fire in comparison to the later runs

[@portal2kid]

Other speedrunners: (in-depth 5 paragraph analysis of their run, saying every blemish they made and that they could have optimized. Pilger: “I really hate those ledges.”

[@a3msty]

Never thought a speedrun video of a game I didn't play at all would keep my eyes on the screen for 30 minutes, nice video!

[@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106]

You haven't played DooM? *passive aggressively types comment

[@a3msty]

@@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 lol, actually, I played, but not a lot. The computer I used to play the game broke and never played doom since then.

[@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106]

@@a3msty oh dude thats a rip right there

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

With todays sourceports you can run it on modern hardware without issue. And the mods are endless.

[@junkylemur6755]

SpiRiT514 looking at this video fills you with DETERMINATION

[@prkr3944]

Me: I should really go to bed KZbin: 30 minute doom speedrunning video? Me: Yeah thats sounds good

[@Moley1Moleo]

You can save a lot of frames by watching it at 2x speed.

[@awdrifter3394]

And looper did the speed run in 16 seconds.

[@Falkdr]

that was me 30 min. ago :D

[@HannahFortalezza]

Ugh this is me tonight wtf

[@BattleBladeWarrior]

A 30 minute documentary about a 32 second run. Thats just. . . I don't even know what to say :D

[@gort6969]

This is genuinely one of the best videos i've ever seen. I don't know what it is, but it just has a special place in my heart.

[@EZScape]

Another video from an ABSOLUTE LEGEND

[@adam21097]

When is your next video EZScape?

[@EZScape]

@@adam21097 in like an hour lmao

[@marthmain1710]

oh, he wasnt joking

[@pixyl4415]

*LEDGEnd

[@rolandkertesz4196]

*LEDGEnd

[@tylersmith9942]

[Me at multiple parts in the video]: Ok... THIS must be the fastest time ever! Karl Jobst: Well yes, but actually no

[@v3ck1n]

Lmfao

[@JamesClark1991]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@samwai3762]

me: that's fast maybe this is the best ?? Looks at the video: only halfway done ohhhh noo

[@cupcakethesabertooth6802]

Doom guy: *running across ledges at high speed and riding walls* Demons: *W-what?* **visual confusion**

[@heimdall1973]

Hey, he just squeezed past me to grab the red key!

[@ashurad_fox5991]

N-nani?! Strafe Run Dorifto!!!

[@michaelenz7039]

demons: wait doom guy can wallrun? Doom guy: always could have.

[@mastermind4499]

2019: Doom Eternal will have platforming? This is not Doom, this sucks! 1994: The Chasm (exists)

[@BattleBladeWarrior]

Watching this video just reminded me of that. Doom 2 had a ton of platforming actually. And "set piece" levels like barrels O fun. So I gotta stop knocking Doom Eternal so hard :D

[@thejfk_experience490]

I haven't seen a single person complain about doom eternals platforming. In fact, everyone seems to love it

[@josephellis8501]

@Soller its not that it had platforming, it was how the platforming was implemented

[@majamystic256]

I love the chasm

[@Octave_Rolland]

Doom 2 is quirky. If anything, the fact that it features platforming would confirm that platforming in a Doom game is quirky.

[@Zelinkokitsune]

I won't lie just thinking of doing that stage casually is nerve-wracking, to see them just obliterate it in under a minute it utter madness. I knew Doom could get crazy with the pursuit for speed but this was just insane to watch!

[@kelvinnueveanimeguitar1983]

You know your content is great when someone like me who has no interest and never played doom and no really into speed running watched the whole video through

[@lisahenry20]

Same. Except I've watched this video multiple times, I keep coming back to it. It's possibly one of my favourite videos.

[@AaronWeberGA]

"So sit back, and relax." **corrects posture, becomes tense.**

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

​@980765 Counterpoint: correcting it helps if you've been slouched for a while. Having correct posture isn't the vital bit as far as I'm aware; making sure that you're not in the same position for hours is. Your overall point is correct (I think) but, contextually, it's more nuanced.

[@GeneralBays]

@Брандон Кeллeр You should look up videos on Chiropractic practices in the home. Don't do anything that hurts, and stretch before doing any self-chiropractics. Also, a body in motion, stays in motion. We are meant to actually keep moving and not stay still for hours/days/weeks/months/years/decades. As a sedentary person, I don't go anywhere much, and I have lost a lot of muscle from my military days. When you sit still for a long time, your muscles will eventually seize up, we call this being stiff. Stretching for more than 60 seconds gives you a full stretch, and if you hold it for over 120 seconds, you muscle will fully release and allow you to achieve a better stretch. I have been working on getting myself to be more active, and this is what I have learned along the way.

[@therandomdot2563]

Watching this like "why isn't he bunny-hopping?" Then I remember old-school Doom didn't have jumping. I'm so used to modern games having jumping and seeing every gamer bunny-hopping everywhere (either for speed advantage or just screwing around) that seeing Doom w/o bunny-hopping struck me as odd.. then I remembered it never had it.

[@ikagura]

bhopping has vanished from most of the modern fps

[@jadynh5402]

@@ikagura yeah, many seem to mimic real life and more jumping = you get slow af. Like Battlefield 5.

[@llSuperSnivyll]

While watching the first of Demonlord's runs I was like "Why isn't he jumping? ... oh, wait, he can't here"

[@chrismckee6742]

@@ikagura including DOOM Eternal it seems

[@ikagura]

@@chrismckee6742 Quake Champions as well?

[@xXAlexOrWhateverXx]

I love the sportsmanship between these players. As an outsider to the community, they feel like a group of friends encouraging each other instead of fighting against each other.

[@nnelg8139]

I suppose you could call these runs... LEDGEndary.

[@CanadianCat64]

your going to hell for that one

[@Agenta-df3gb]

Ha ha ha ha. Here, have a thumbs up.

[@BobberTheWiseYTP]

I'm just a lost soul doomed by these puns

[@maddoxstar5351]

what have you done

[@maxscott3349]

Nicholas Bos they're here

[@gozinta82]

I always laughed at the "Par Times" at the end level tally screen. Never expected them to actually be beaten by speed runners.

[@unablenarwal8863]

gozinta82 the par times were actually the fastest possible runs that John romaro could achieve

[@KineticManiac]

@@unablenarwal8863 Correction: Fastest possible time he could achieve rounded off (down to a multiple of 15, I assume), and added 30.

[@PolygonDonut]

These videos are such adventures to watch, very well put together and truly gives me an appreciation for ever single technique these incredibly high level runs use and how those techniques developed overtime.

[@chasedavis6724]

This is the one single video that got me into loving speed running

[@kremstoin]

Same!

[@PermianExtinction]

Doom speedrunners playing this level and getting to the walkway section: HELLO YOU ABSOLUTE LEDGES

[@nintendude794]

Lololol

[@nintendude794]

These Ledges really are in a League Of their own...

[@e-102gammaboitheepicdoomer7]

Decino should've included the ledges in his doom 2 nightmare tier list (I know the tier list only includes monsters)

[@Timeward76]

Sedlo's 36 wasnt about being the world record. It was about being art. It was about being the absolute best. It was about achieving absolute perfection. And I can respect that.

[@Sombody123]

The idea of pacifist Doomguy sounds all kinds of wrong...

[@totaldestruction152]

He's probably got a dentist appointment. He'll deal with the demons later.

[@roadroller8851]

He needs to find a bathroom

[@Minnevan]

He gave the demons an IOU

[@Z3R0Steam]

@@septum_funk stop

[@hugebuffman3619]

@@septum_funk toooxic

[@dbturbonub2536]

I was only 12-13 years old in 96 but I used to get so scared because I get deeply emotionally attached to most games I play, I used to try and blaze through them. If only I knew about these speed runs back then! Watching this really brings back some memories! Great video as always!!!

[@TetraKael]

You can't be too old to speedrun. Give it a chance sometimes. The community is very helpful in terms of tips and tricks..

[@davidribeiro]

"this time, I practiced a lot!" Yeah.. because before you were just slacking off.

[@SeaSerpentLevi]

gotta love those early internet days type of coments xD

[@NVE]

Bet those ledges got alot easier once optical mice hit the scene in 99 lol

[@warrax111]

yes, wanted to say same, it ran also smoother on 99 and later computers. 96 playrs had to handicapped playing it on 486. also playing it o n ports with 100 fps, is advantage over software doom capped at 35 fps.

[@tshassb4636]

8:31 that gameplay went from 0 to 100 in a millisecond

[@ThomasfromDenmark1]

1:35, and I am completely into the video. You sir, have a great talent for building up a suspence in a short matter of time. Marvelous intro. Kind regards Thomas from Denmark

[@formdusktilldeath]

You really need to be in a zen like mind state to straferun on those ledges. Mad respect. Also: This wallrunning is something! Game engines and their quirks never cease to amaze me.

[@davigurgel2040]

I never played a doom game in my life, and i don't speedrun, yet youtube recommended it to me. And i loved it lol. Some people just have a way of telling stories that makes any topic interesting to anyone

[@Knights_of_the_Nine]

Those ledges broke that man. RIP DemonLord.

[@infu7248]

rip? Why?

[@iceice1295]

cus he died

[@infu7248]

@@iceice1295 He killed himself?

[@iceice1295]

No he just died

[@Falkdr]

@@iceice1295 when was that?

[@melikkhelifa]

I wonder if Demonlord, Anthe & Sedlo and the others will see this video. That would be really cool!

[@henningskogstoe2700]

I actually just did :) this is a great video. I remember beeing proud of getting it down under 0:40 finally. Lets remember it was trackball mouses around then..so you had to open it up and clean the rollers constantly because of the precision needed on those ledges ;) Also running doom2 v1.9.exe under native DOS with them mouse drivers :) I actually tried hard getting it back, however implementing the north east trick to skip the last ledge running I never managed consistantly enough. Sedlo is a legendary speedrunner and a master..the 0:36 is art in motion.

[@voltakid4859]

@@henningskogstoe2700 do you perhaps have a twitter or facebook?

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

back in our days, even mice had balls!

[@Sh1bble]

@@henningskogstoe2700 My god it didn't even cross my mind people were using trackballs with the date most of these records were set, precise with those mice is crazy to me thinking about it.

[@voltakid4859]

@@Sh1bble same!

[@Destro65]

"The only one to complete a UV pacifist run of underhalls was ZeroMaster" decino: **laughs in mastermind**

[@CoolGamer-qz5zp]

Great refenece

[@ThunderStruck115]

I'm pretty sure decino said he had to abuse save states

[@SammoElite]

ABSOLUTE LEDGES

[@soulhunger1]

Godlike comment

[@vbgvbg1133]

I FUCKING CAN’T WITH THIS PIN

[@BIGMIKEREC]

This is the winner.

[@deathdogfanboy1970]

I love your videos dude

[@briankarcher8338]

Regarding the wall running glitch, the reason it happens is basically this: 1) When the player is running very fast in a particular direction there was a chance the player could run through a wall. This was because their collider could pass through the wall between frames. This is an extremely common issue in games even to this day. It is fixed by either adding in-between collision steps, or a raycast. Doom chose an extra collision step. 2) To correct for this the Doom engine, when detecting the player running fast in two particular angles, inserts an extra collision step in the middle of the movement. Two collision checks happen for the frame now but with half values so everything evens out in the end. 3) This fixes it! You can't run through walls anymore. However there is a bug in the wall sliding function. It uses the non-halved speed values and runs that twice. It should have been using the halved values like the other functions in the collision detection. 4) Doom guy runs double speed. Example: You're running at a speed of 16 units per frame. The game says wait! Too fast! Let's run collision twice with a speed of 8 units each. P_SlideMove says screw that and uses the speed of 16 instead of 8. Since it runs twice, Doomguy moves 32 units this frame instead of the desired 16. There's more complex math involved but this is the gist of it.

[@lolno6975]

This feels like a summoning salt video. And I love those.

[@BIGMIKEREC]

OK, know this is gonna be buried, but really think about this: You went from 5,000 (when I became aware of this channel) to 50,000 in under two months. You're blowing up my man.

[@fakehax3984]

he speedran reaching 100k subs

[@cm1557]

This guy really makes these videos interesting with the amount of details and explanations. Well done. Suddenly I wanna be a video game speed runner.

[@GigaLem]

The Chasm, aka "Super Monkey Ball Doom Edition"

[@ShenDoodles]

Doomguy doesn't fall out. The ground's scared of him.

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

Ahahaha maybe they should try to cross-pollinate some runners between the games.

[@Budabaii]

old school doom speedrunning had such a cool community. not that i was involved, but the way it is described has a sort of mystical property to it.

[@hunters.dicicco1410]

Wendall Mickelson mystical is a great way to describe it, esoteric even. like an ancient clan of wizards convening on a particular goal

[@totallynotzokix11_mc21]

And oddly friendly. You think that they'd be pissed some guy kept coming every week and beating their record but they just kept getting better and better.

[@robrot404]

@@totallynotzokix11_mc21 Yeah. you could see in the video how speedrunners compliment each other and praise each other for each new record.

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

@@totallynotzokix11_mc21 I love that about speedrunning. I'm no expert but it seems like it's always been a big friendly pot of really cool self-competitive people occasionally ruined by some over-competitive eejit who leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

[@aschlamishowsup]

I remember this video. It's great. I really like these speedrun progression stories because only insiders have all this info and it's really great to somewhat tap into the drama we missed out on. So very detailed and informative, I love it

[@masterluxu1]

Can we just a minute to appreciate that demonlord set the time at 1:58. Then through the fire of competition was able to push it down to less than a minute. That had to be a good day for him 😃

[@Orbital_Dew]

not only by 1 or 2 seconds me: *Holy shiiiitt, how much faster did he make it* but 3 seconds ...... baited .....

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

instead of Rip and Tear its all Skip in Fear

[@Akira.0.]

That's still a lot in speedrunning

[@dl-3780]

Haha, that's great editing by Jobst! Ask Sedlo or Looper if 3 secs. is alot...

[@maxcomstock1831]

It’s so surreal to me that i wasn’t even alive when the earliest records were set

[@michaelenz7039]

Same

[@Ryan432120]

Lost Soul 1 : Every so often im seeing many marines Running Around on thoes ledges. Lost Soul 2 : Why they are soo desperate to pass by those areas ?, beats me. Lost Soul 3 : Yeah, Another One Bites the dust.

[@Deckaio]

Oh boy, I'm not a speedrunner and have no interest in speedrunning. But I appreciate skill and you are doing a great job of highlighting and explaining this feats.

[@alessandragonzales8190]

This has quickly become one of my favourite videos. I put it on as background noise when I'm doing chores because I never get tired of hearing about this speedrun.

[@copyrightclaim3541]

I like how some game about shooting demons, became this bastion of speedrunning... I like it!

[@skvader4189]

I was expecting demonlord to make a come back

[@dl-3780]

Sorry about that, but I had made peace with those ledges.. Couldn't risk changing that.

[@GB-mi5he]

This is my favorite vid from Karl. I've watched it over 15 times at this point :)

[@mdaily318]

*The Great value version of summoning salt* *When the great value version is a lot better than expected*

[@kos2919]

They both good. Summoning salt advantage is his voice, choice of music and editing skill. This guy is much more basic but still fun to watch.

[@ryannorman8898]

I absolutely love your videos. Whenever I’m having anxiety or get depressed these videos help me so much. Thanks 😊

[@Guayabaman305]

The real record was the absolute legends we met along the way.

[@benjaminharmon6541]

*ledges

[@clearspira]

LOL I can almost hear Demonlord's thoughts during this video. ''You're pretty good... but i'm better.'' And then Sedlo came along and he was like ''you're pretty good... yeah...''

[@dl-3780]

When Sedlo started playing Compet-n for real, as well as others, Skogsto and some finns I had actually left this game, last time I played it seriously was in -97, but interest was fading, or rather I had to move on with my life.