ARTIST *Allegedly* Made MULTIPLE Fake Identities To SCAM People...

[@maximumbees]

making a group chat to say theyll be getting refunds bc youre unaliving yourself is NUTS. like do they think everyone's going to just say "oh okay, thanks for the update"

[@meat3958]

That’s exactly what I’d say tbf, their mental health isn’t an excuse to scam me so. Product or my refund first, a guilt trip to the afterlife, well, after 🤷‍♂️

[@akabaneaki]

@maximumbees tbh people are so nice on the discord cus if it's me, someone who believes scammers are allowed a straight ticket to hell too, I would have replied "OK good to know. Thanks for saving the environment"

[@maximumbees]

@@akabaneaki i guess im operating under the assumption that they didn't know they were interacting with a scammer yet

[@akabaneaki]

@@maximumbees ya maybe, but that message is posted in a group where everyone is getting a refund though. Im assuming some of them waited for not too long so they had no idea. If i'm one of those that wait LOADS of time and saw all that tactics, i definitely would not have been able to hold my tongue for sure =_=

[@GHXZTFAZE]

I had issues with this person before- I sent them $30 for two animations ($15 each) that were posted on toyhouse, never got an update or a wip or anything, thankfully I did get a refund, but I would of really loved the animations since I had been waiting for MONTHS for said animations. Really sucks cause they do have nice art and a nice style.

[@_TSC_46]

Animation will never be that cheap, even $300 for a 2 minute animation is highly unlikely(maybe if It’s an animation meme but still). For future reference if anything that labour intensive is so cheap id def avoid

[@DeathOfAnExecutionerr]

@ could've been a simple blinking gif or something similar to that, I doubt it was fully animated

[@CoolMagmar]

@@_TSC_46 Person probably mean gifs, like these ones that are 2 to 5 frames

[@GHXZTFAZE]

@@_TSC_46 they were animation gifs, around 4-6 frames each.

[@soulzsilver6197]

​@@GHXZTFAZE Hi. I happen to know the person irl. Thought I'd let you and anyone else here in the comments know that this person also has another person that has access to their banking information. They're roommates, from I'm told. The roommate has multiple accounts and purposely wanted to fuck them over, buying things they "wanted" only to toss them aside. As far as I know, they haven't been spoken to by this content creator. I do hope they talk soon.

[@whoahanant]

Common scammer tactic is to pay via ways outside of your payment plans. If a customer wants to pay you every way outside of the payment platform you use regularly, they're a scammer. It should always be your first red flag if a customer wants to pay outside of your payment plan. Hopefully this red flag sticks out more for people new to taking or getting commissions.

[@sleepy_soap]

As an chronically ill artist unless im doing sketch coms I give myself a month minimum man. Commissioners are usually so understanding when it comes to deadlines. It hurts my heart so see sm good people get scammed. And seeing mental heal used as an excuse :(

[@herpasherp]

Hello! Was shocked to see my own post here lol. i would be lying if I didn't say that re-seeing all this brought back a little frustration. Not at Katliente, but at the situation. I never did get my money back, but it is what it is atp. I do hope they've learned their lesson and got the help they needed though

[@indigonerd]

If your mental health is strong enough that you can weaponize it to guilt trip, gaslight, keep track of multiple accounts and scams, you're doing pretty okay. It just seems like a big ol' case of oh-sh*t-I'm-being-held-accountable-itus.

[@piercikun]

we are NOT the same person man. im tired of hearing it. she just used my paypal and as her roomate is just, yea.

[@GreiH]

​@piercikun uh... why do all these different accounts use your PayPal then?

[@piercikun]

@@GreiH roomate has made multiple accounts and rebranded multiple times so it was always the same person behind those accounts. she has always used my paypal for the reason she couldnt connect her bank to her own paypal so i let her use mines since we are very close to each other. i have my own life with commission work and slight content creation. i dont do vtuber model comms, i do animation comms (mostly YCHs). it is MY paypal account that i originally had created when i first started commissions of animations. i was unaware of all of my roomate's activity. she would tell me things here and there, but she never told me of the threat of s/lf harm and etc. i dont know what else to say here. its simply that i just let her use my paypal and she knows ive gotten upset with her when she would get a charge back.

[@GreiH]

@@piercikun if you actually are different people, I suggest never allowing this again and making it so they can't use your PayPal anymore. Allowing someone who has repeatedly scammed people to use your account is not a good look

[@piercikun]

​@@GreiH yes, im not gonna allow it anymore. i was never aware of all the sh/t activity and im not gonna allow her to use my paypal or any of my paypal or other services like that. she knows i had been upset with her about all this but if i knew more than what she told me---i wouldve stopped it there.

[@katdragonz]

It's really crazy how this is going on. When I came out about the situation, I received a lot of hate. I just hope everyone can learn from this situation, on both sides.

[@Ruemi_Taka5289]

Omg I am so sorry....I hope everything is doing better for you, you didn't deserve that hate or being scammed....sending lots of hugs your way, good luck❤🤗

[@ANTBITES]

Wasn’t your complaint about not getting a free raffle prize quick enough?

[@katdragonz]

@ANTBITES No. I was upset due to being led on. Katliente covers it well in her video.

[@Justsemoneexisting]

Pierce is in comments still saying they were different person btw- i don't believe it

[@ANTBITES]

@ as someone who was scammed by them they’re 1000% the same person. Before deactivating wuoqi had piercis animations in their portfolio.

[@P0wder_puff]

Hiya! Powder here, thanks for making this Kat, it's nice to see all of this person's actions come to light as I know it was horrible stressful to be a part of l, you covered this isln such an empathetic way its amazing 💜 Getting the hate i did when i posted about this made me feel like i was doing something wrong so it's super validating to hear you cover this as you did

[@Justsemoneexisting]

They are in comments still saying they didnt do it 🙏🙏

[@Justsemoneexisting]

I don't believe it a single bit tbh 😭

[@endovjin]

Omg you uploaded the video right when I was about to draw!! I always love watching your videos while I draw, so it was perfect timing 🥰

[@konatae]

SAMEER thought I was the only one omg

[@CrzzyCat]

Omg yess same!!!! I absolutely love watching those videos while I draw, especially the long ones, because I don't have to go searching for a new video every time it ends while i'm still not done drawing!!

[@konatae]

@@endovjin FRRRR

[@unicorntoesart]

i watch these while i draw or play minecraft LOL

[@Laitybur]

WOA enstars pfp

[@_kolby]

things like this make me so mad. i'm someone who's so nervous to try and kickstart my career as an artist despite being in school to do so. but people like this come around and scam people without wanting to take accountability. just seeing someone taking this opportunity for granted makes me so angry. i might as well use this anger to start my own account and be authentic for people.

[@teojoon]

imma be honest, the more i watch these videos the more i realized just how sad some of these ppl lives are.. like if ur gonna be chronically online at least dont be a bother damn 😭some of these vtubers needa go outside

[@SalviAlmighty]

Seeing all the cross-posted models and art across different accounts made me laugh. These scammers are SO LAZY, and then get all offended they people catch on and start asking questions. The gaslighting/victimization is CRAZYYYYY

[@aruvius]

this person is very lucky to be surrounded by extremely sympathetic people. I'm so tired of seeing this bait, the conversation would end with a "who cares" from me

[@Huskiey66]

I came to watch a video to eat and I’m glad I came on right when you posted. I love your content and how you deep dive into these situations!

[@SoupSpot]

SAME im eating Wendy’s and watching drama 💞 as it should be

[@callixir]

Not me expecting to be in here! I am Monztar! You did say my username correctly so dont worry lol! This was such a frustrating thing to deal with for sure and made me so upset in the moment and it makes me so sad that this person is STILL trying to scam on such a massive scale D: enough to get a hour long vid made about them?! Crazy smdh I did sell the model to someone else tho that was very nice and very punctual ^^

[@5u2k]

Ouhg that’s kind of sad I was a bit of a fan of them for awhile, so disappointing E: seeing multiple people I’ve worked with/know personally in the screenshots is so surreal wth😭😭

[@Mara-lj8uq]

For the korean alphabet @ 55:10 in hangeul it's jig sae, so you could pronounce it at jixae. Just fyi :)

[@WaferTots]

yea i know a lot of people will also insert an x into their name for an aesthetic (but usually replacing vowels) so it didnt seem particularly suspicious to me

[@legcnotsosegc]

help i used to be good friends with them on discord 😟 how the tables turn, now i know why they switched accounts sm

[@HyattHyatt3179]

This may be unpopular, but I don't care if it was just for free, it's still scammy. The raffles are typically in exchange for reposts or follows, so you are still giving them something in return for the prize. I understand that you'll focus on paid works, but if you're swamped with work don't do a raffle. If you get more work, make sure to finish the raffle first. If you can't afford to spend time doing free work, then don't offer to do free work from the start

[@Publiclydyzfunctional-rd9rs]

How dare yt hide this from me for 20sec, love watching your longer videos when I’m arting:)

[@Zundamon-z7w]

SAMEEE

[@WaferTots]

i have a request/suggestion!! can you put your red titles on the thumbnail above the image or change the colour? ive been binging your content and its SO hard to tell if ive already watched the video because it blends in with the progress bar at the bottom of the thumbnail. i understand if it doesnt work with the optimal graphic design choices, trying yellow could also work but it was just a problem i kept having! not a deal breaker at all but i feel like i wouldnt be the only one with this "issue." love your content (especially the art stuff) and hovering over the thumbnail works because it changes the picture so i can see the bar, but yea just a nitpick!

[@owinlaa]

Omg I have this problem too 😭 I usually look at the bottom left corner and bottom right corner bc it usually doesn't go all the way across the thumbnail, but it's still hard to tell

[@alexalynn5952]

That interaction with Mon made me SO angry for them

[@cc_the_rebel]

This fool: “The internet was supposed to be my safe space.” Me:…see kiddo that was your first mistake-

[@kalpea_varis]

This person is making me lowkey mad. I dont' have an IRL job either due to disability/physical health and I do commissions to earn a few bucks. Sure, sometimes it can be hard to finish art at all, be it mental or physical health, but in that case you either communicate that... or just don't take commissions. The constant guilt-tripping going on with "Well, sorry that I'm without a job and irresponsible" is just childish. Taking peoples money and then acting like you have any say in people taking down bewares/threads is not it, LMAO. You're in no position to make demands when you're owing folks a ton of money due to YOUR mishaps/fuckups and scammy behaviour. You're responsible for your actions.

[@Sasha-wp5uv]

even if the imaginary friend is real, I still think they shouldn't do goods and services anymore, raffle or not, they're extremely irresponsible, immature, and a liar, as well as constantly insulting and guilt tripping ANYONE who asks them about what they're owed. I had a similar opinion on the raffle, they are clearly not someone to be trusted, imaginary roommate being real or not

[@Karma20XX]

This person needs to get offline asap

[@Ruemi_Taka5289]

Drawing, watching long vid about drama, appreciating that other people cover drama cuz I hate it....yep, today is gonna be an awesome day!😂

[@Ruemi_Taka5289]

Also....I have been clean from life ending tendencies for about a year....like yes it is hard but never use it to guilt trip and make people feel bad...none of that is funny, and as a victim of SA, life ending, and such.....just focus on helping yourself, do not take comms....this person needs to get serious help if this is their issue.....

[@skittlessquad6031]

This is the second time on your channel I've seen you discuss someone who made an entitled post about vtuber artist prices who went on to be an alleged scammer whi skimps out paying artists or involved in such a situation lol

[@akabaneaki]

Monztar is being vigilant and thats a good example. how the hell does ppl be making toyhouse account left and right for scamming like this when i cant even get one code to have an account made lol. Im confused though, vgen is essentially so that u will get refund if the deadline hit and the stuff is not delivered right? Those ppl are being scammed too? What happened to the refund policy through that?

[@callixir]

Hi, im Monztar~ thanks for calling me vigilant QvQ honestly I prob would of flown off more if my partner didnt hold me back and help me out lol

[@akabaneaki]

@callixir hey! No problem, the way you handled it is so professional and definitely the best example to follow. 👌 We all would love to smack a few scammers here so I Don even blame you for wanting to do so hahaha! Ur partner is calm headed 😌 So sorry for such an incident happening to you and hope it doesn't again! Those scammers have gotta go! 🤧

[@Sparrowlicious-01]

In the past I was friends with someone who changed their username constantly to abandon group projects. Uncomfortable behavior to see but at least she never scammed anyone and usually fulfilled commissions....

[@MajijejPlays]

Really sad people do this and makes it harder for legitimate artists. Also, if something seems too good to be true (the price) it usually isn’t

[@ChristopherDaniels-b3l]

I can not believe this scammers, they are affecting every artist out there because trusting someone on the internet with your money is already hard enough, so now with all this people just stealing money, omgggg

[@Eirlys-snonvy]

1:14 Going against the point of the video, this OC looks REALLY close to one of my comfort characters and it shocked me I thought one of my favorite artists got into some drama because of how similar the characters looked to each other, literally had to double take I thought I was seeing things 😭😭🙏🙏

[@Viteaification]

im sorry but artists using everyone but their own paypal account is so sketchy and unprofessional to me.

[@LuleChildele]

i love ur long videos I cant wait to watch them all when they upload !!!

[@eirian.art420]

Yeah I used these types of arguments with self harm when I was 16. Grow up.

[@bowko]

i like watching your videos but some of the comments/replies seem unnecessary to read lol. like that they sent three crying emojis, saying thanks, or them talking about some other design that's unrelated... those comments are so random.

[@zachibee]

Hey! Zachibee here- NO I DID NOT KNOW THIS PERSON! I was a simple and ordenary commissioner along many other who Got scammed!❤

[@wendychouxx]

Can someone explain to me what a invoice is, in this case ?

[@mallowtonmouse]

An invoice is like an official ticket or contract for a sale which contains all the prices and terms- it acts as a contract and a receipt. It helps PayPal support understand any disputes (whether someone charges back after a product is delivered or if a product is never sent to a buyer) (this extra protection is represented by the extra fee it takes to make an invoice)

[@wendychouxx]

@@mallowtonmouseooooh okay thank you

[@saltclaws]

fr could make a playlist at this point.

[@Pidgeonotte]

I needed a Kat video today. 🥺

[@cofeespear4992]

The only time I remember someone using someone else's PayPal for payment was an artist I commissioned once and at the time they were technically an minor (but at the time so was I) and they were using their parent's PayPal

[@aintdesigner224]

me who used to change my name every other week when i was a kid on dA and pre shittification twt,, oop

[@remizstudio]

i love listening to ur videos when im 3d printing & animating!!!! so freaking happy

[@coleslaw8493]

My PayPal is actually glitched where I can only use friends and family’s so I’m always scared people will think I’m a scammer 😭😭😭 (my local bank isn’t in their network or something so it won’t connect to my bank and any business transactions just hold in pending for 180 days and then automatically refund)

[@L1zzy-and-d0ll]

some random person:whos your favorite artist reporter? Me:katliente.

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

Seriously, how old is this person? They sound like a self-absorbed child.

[@alessomniumuploads]

wait this person had a giveaway where my friend gave it to me and i had talked to them but they cancelled all their giveaways and comms???

[@harukii.q]

Ah yes, 1 hour and 30 minutes of drama for me to watch while eating popcorn 😎

[@Sassafrass95]

(Edit) To add unto my comment I have experience with people weaponizing suicide... I won't say who just that I know them personally for several years and the artist in this video is doing the same thing the person I know did all the time when he wanted attention and didn't get it in time Ok this person is not going to off themselves... people who are suicidal DON'T constantly say they're going to do it they will just do it and in most cases without warning.... These person is just seeking sympathy points and has a woe is me mentality while also making a joke out of serious mental health issues....

[@scurvyport]

I see a 1+ hour kat video and I smile.

[@Oatymeal]

Nawrrr not the hypixel sky block, we don't claim u

[@glubbies]

Gave me a flash bang hearing my name 😂❤

[@BigPenstroker]

I'm toxic AF once I heard he was a dude I lost all sympathy, dudes trauma baiting to get hate off of them is way more common than girls doing it. It's just that dudes don't get away with it as often

[@UBDOOMBOT]

This sounds like a shit ton of Teen drama...

[@sophiemichel8045]

lol my bunny is called Yunya and he is a little shady man who does what he wants. So I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s involved in all this. 😂

[@yeahyou...]

I looove long videos :D it‘a so nice to listen to whilst drawing

[@bossydishonestfawn]

Katdragonz??? Why they’re so sweet and peppy!

[@IceyWolftb]

I pray that people since watching this video apologize at least what she went through with the scammer.

[@ViABonnie]

I also gor scammed on fiverr once, the art was NOT what they posted in their profile. I don’t mind paying for beginner art but please be fucking honest

[@LittIemermaid]

I LOVE UR HAIR

[@MistySoteizize]

People who watched the whole vid 👇

[@IxiaRayne]

Is this a re upload? I am sure I heard u explain the scam cheque thing yesterday morning in the shower xD

[@WaferTots]

nah it was the video previous to this! i think thats why she mentions she's explained it before but yea i also got deja vu

[@owinlaa]

No, it's just that she was talking about possible scam methods and talked about the cheque thing. It was a different person who did it when she talked about it 🙏

[@coolcool-nq5fx]

I lowk feel bad for them though, they clearly need srs help and cant function proper

[@nathangrim23]

hour and a half long ? aight its gaming time xD

[@failb8]

why do you keep grabbing your mic like... SO much 😭😭😭

[@GabeloLaverne]

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[@soulzsilver6197]

Howdy, I uh wanted folks to know I know them irl. If anyone wants to hear what's going on, especially about the dm's, I can talk about it here. If anyone wants to listen.

[@soulzsilver6197]

Ok, well, I'll just put down what I know here then. To make the long story short, Piercikunn has a roommate that has multiple accounts set up that's meant for scamming behavior and thought (as far as I know) Piercikunn down the rabbit hole. While Piercikunn will always communicate to the best of their abilities, the roommate is a bit of a...p.o.s. I'm not sure how they are as actual people, but from what Piercikunn tells me, she has been nothing but rude to them and draining them of their money and they are too scared to increase the prices, fearing that it would scare people off.

[@soulzsilver6197]

Tldr there is a roommate involved. While Piercikunn is more open and communicative, the other folks have been more likely talking to the young lady in the dms. That's the woman who's been scamming and ghosting others.

[@soulzsilver6197]

Sorry, I thought someone was gonna say something.

[@soulzsilver6197]

Sorry. The comments here are just off. But I heard that the roommate would make an acc or use their old acc to also speak about this. I just hope she doesn't try to throw Piercikunn under the bus.

[@user-yt6rc1dc6u]

Are you sure you’re not this pierci person on an alt account? Cause that’s how it’s reading lol

[@oxayafan29]

woah

[@Straykidzrule3]

O

[@ferazapam]

YAYAYA

[@Lucky_Jay12]

Day two of asking you to make a critiquing series

[@YokoVT_]

The way this issue still isnt resolved TODAY either, messaged daisy through dms asking if everything was alright and its still not resolved 😕

[@oAndi3]

not the check explaination am i that old 🥲