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[@meganhuggins7494]

Over the last fifty years (I’m 70), I must have spent thousands and thousands of pounds on plants , both for garden and house. Plants are my passion, my garden is my happy place, my idea of heaven is to live in somewhere like Kew Gardens! I have had many comments from family and friends over the amount of money I have spent, my answer always has been ‘ some women spend money on shoes, clothes, hair and nails, me, I spend it on my plants’ . I’m retired now and on a much depleted budget, but tomorrow I’m off to buy some succulents ( love always finds a way) 🥰🥰👩🏻‍🌾🌺💐Happy gardening x

[@MalaysianTropikfusion]

I love the part where you say, "Love always finds a way." 😊

[@pinktania13]

This is the best thing I’ve ever read! Such an inspiration 🥰

[@Teenangst16]

This gave me such a big smile, love does always find a way doesn't it, what a beautiful thought ❤️

[@lauragroh2487]

It is a very rewarding hobby and healthy too.

[@danakrueger7833]

I have a friend who makes soaps/lotions and was raked over the coals by a customer who bought the “strawberry vanilla soap” because she’s allergic to strawberries. In the description it states that real strawberries are used! Customers are ridiculous everywhere.

[@brettdomenick]

Now you need to do a video in front of a green screen! Start with the warehouse as the background and slowly just make it more and more crazy until you’re in an actual rainforest and never acknowledge that it’s changing.

[@amelie9271]

😂😂😂😂 Brilliant!

[@lch3303]

Lmao yes plz do this! That would b hilarious like "Easter eggs"

[@aylaruttgaizer2297]

I laughed my ass of at this!

[@brandykratz561]

That would be awesome. Just fuck with their tiny minds.

[@jake6681]

Ok this! 😂

[@NicollesDreamsShop]

I've always admired your transparency and no bs attitude

[@LL-rb8wd]

Same. This is the reason I no longer visit fb groups, too much pointless nastiness and bullying.

[@jannafolsom1069]

Agreed. It's because they are miles away and don't have to worry about being punched in their face. Because that's what happens when you say ugly shit to people face to face! Behind the keyboard in mommy's basement, nobody will shut you up. Its out of hand. And it's ALL AGES! from 5 to 75! It's pitiful.

[@lyzeesl1fehacks]

I advise to keep on doing what it is that you are passionate in and not worry about what other people think. Just ignore the comments because I guarantee you that there will be someone out there if not multiple people that will really enjoy and benefit from your content of what you are posting on any social platform. We all need each other in this time. I wish you all, all the best!! Xx

[@syasot88]

@@lyzeesl1fehacks great point 💕

[@danielamcghie1565]

That’s why I left many groups on Facebook. My life and time is too precious to deal with the nasty people. People should mind their own business.

[@CarlosSanchez-bs7ft]

I work in the ecotourism industry as a tour leader/guide. I have learned over the last 10+ years that the people who give you the most trouble, who want to extract the most out of you, who make you work the hardest, will NEVER be happy no matter what you do or offer. At a certain point, I had enough of a client base that those people who are troublemakers just go on a personal blacklist. They just take up space on your calendar and create stress -- and take away time from people who are good repeat customers who deserve your 100%.

[@reidarcool]

This is why i love and support you! I like that you Are real and dont give a shit🔥🔥🔥 keep up the good content! 💖

[@KayleeEllenOfficial]

Thank you so much! 💓

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

The Collab that’s been over a year in the making and by making I mean we say “we should really do that” once a month and then don’t 😂😂

[@KayleeEllenOfficial]

This is too true 🤣

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

We are collaborating on procrastination

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

Making it the longest running collab in KZbin history actually

[@ayo623]

OMG please get on this asap 🙌🏾🥰

[@babsstrijkert5365]

That's the definition of true friendship :')

[@jake6681]

20:58 “I’m sat at home so I may as well sit at home with a bomb face mask” THESE ARE WORDS TO LIVE BY ❤️

[@SickBoiRENegade]

I hope all these haters appreciate how much Kaylee shares with us bc lets just be real... it's no one's damn business how much or what she spends her money on! I can't even imagine asking her about finances. That's crazy! Enjoy her amazing content and leave her the hell alone about personal stuff! I hate that she has to pre-apologize for just about everything these days. We love you Kaylee♥️and everything you choose to share with us is very much appreciated!!😘

[@Adri8086]

Exactly, I agree!!! It's nobody's business how she spends HER OWN money! How ridiculous and highly intrusive for someone to ask her that!!!

[@Teenangst16]

For real! It's so invasive of anyone's privacy to be asking those types of questions, why does anyone care what she spends her money on? It's her money, no one else's.

[@knitwitchpgh]

"It's not a green screen!" 😂 1 vote Yess mystery plant care video

[@KayleeEllenOfficial]

Haha I had loads of people refusing to believe it wasn't a green screen on the last video 🤣

[@knitwitchpgh]

@@KayleeEllenOfficial so ridiculous! People are so weird

[@tmaz4729]

I think it's because it's so bright and perfect looking

[@orchids4256]

@@KayleeEllenOfficial that's so silly! Guess you're so on point that people cannot possibly believe it 😎

[@knitwitchpgh]

@@tmaz4729 for reals! Choice viewshaters gonna hate. I boil it down to they're jelly

[@ericcendejas8383]

You don't have enough market power to manipulate the market. Wish people could understand this.

[@tate4783]

YES PLEASE do a video on how to tell what a plant needs or likes by the roots and leaves. Also, we have a majesty palm that we have a bit of a love hate relationship with. It’s harder than I thought to care for that since it’s at the office and it’s browning. My boss planted it in a large pot and idk why it’s so unhappy. 😕 SOS

[@ohboyitstara]

Wait I've been gone awhile, are people seriously trying to claim that the giant warehouse, about which you made a multi-part documentary, is a GREEN SCREEN?? fking hell. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@jake6681]

It’s like they think she faked the whole thing, like she doesn’t actually have a Rare Plant Shop

[@neurotika]

@@jake6681 what kind of psychosis are people having where they can seriously make this claim? these people have to be on some flat earther level.

[@manderstemple]

I mean, it'd make a perfect Zoom background

[@vanessasargent9964]

I thought it was a weird thing to have to clarify. Then my partner walk past, looked over my shoulder and said 'oh she has a greenscreen'. I restarted the video and let Kaylee tell him it's not a greenscreen. 😂

[@AngelicArtt]

🤣😂 it is almost TOO UNBELIEVABLY BEAUTIFUL! 😍 People online are crazy.

[@rylanblack8571]

I have a small business, and many of my friends own small businesses. It’s shocking how salty people get over others who achieve any sort of success. There’s a misconception that opening a business makes you “rich”. They don’t understand how much one has to hustle just to break even. Small privately owned businesses are passion projects that you bust ass to make happen. Not everyone is a business owner because often times it takes years of sacrifice. So many will judge anytime you spend money, go on vacation, raise prices, etc etc etc. Nothing is ever good enough. These clients are the same hypocrites who turn around and post “support small business!” on social media. Good job staying strong and keeping your head on straight. All that matters is YOUR happiness. I wish people weren’t so hateful, but the next best thing is ignoring it. Best wishes!

[@Adri8086]

💯🎯

[@ricardocaliman2830]

OMG, the info regarding "guess a plant's needs" is an outstanding idea! I should also add that your vids cover all bases: informative - check, invigorating - check, entertaining - (duh) doublecheck.... in short, top shelf as always. Thank you so much for each one!

[@elizabethcox6568]

The brutal honesty that you bring to your channel is definitely one of the most refreshing things during these times. “People try to tell me how to spend my money all the time. Uh….. fuck you.” PREACH.

[@tinliv315]

I don’t get this price shaming, if someone is willing to pay a price for a plant it’s their business, no one makes them buy it and people are just jealous that they can’t afford it

[@kendalnewman3922]

Girl that means you’re doing something right! Background so beautiful and full of plants that people think it’s green screen. You’re awesome.

[@jaycruzjr4822]

Well this video was necessary. I'm not gonna lie it crossed my mind that you might say you favor certain plants to manipulate the market but since I watch lots of your videos I've noticed you trash talk plants you sell and remember you saying the the obliqua is going down in value so common sense seas you do not intentionally try to manipulate the market. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said price shaming is done by jealous people. I also think price shaming is done by people who are simply angry they can't afford the prices. They also shame people like me who pay the prices. It's really toxic. That's why I don't publicly tell people how much I pay for my plants. They try and make you feel stupid and ashamed for what they call over paying. Nothing worse then non plant people finding out how much you paid and sarcastically saying " You paid that for a leaf ?"... Edit: I can so relate to having extra money for plants or self care because I don't go out and party or eat out much. I'm a homebody who rather be home chilling with my plants lol. Besides I live in Florida and it's too hot to go out often lol.

[@RampagingChipmunk]

Very much can relate to not spending on going out and thus having money to spend on more... indoorsy stuff.

[@StrangeDisposition]

So sad you say you don’t really have friends in person 😞! Also, Jeff Bezos? Now that is ridiculously inaccurate! Where are your abused workers? Where are you hiding your 🚀 shaped like a you know what toy? 🤣

[@spectrobe18]

Not sure if you'll see this but you're literally one of the person I look up to in this community. You inspire me so much and I will forever support you!! Canadian supporter hehe

[@AaronJL]

Idk how anybody thinks that a single person can have an effect on an entire industry is ridiculous. Especially since you are so transparent about pricing.

[@rokktober-personal]

Would love to see a collab between you and Homestead Brooklyn (Summer Rayne Oakes)

[@2close2themoon]

She would LOVE Kaylee's shop!

[@rokktober-personal]

@@2close2themoon I know, I want my favorite two plant queens to connect 😂

[@coriroo9323]

Additionally, for the "plants grow out of the ground" argument... many of these do not. You're not going to stumble upon a 4 foot tall Thai constellation as you're strolling through the jungle. These plants are bred and cared for to make them attractive specimens.

[@WoodlandT]

A lot of times I think saying, “they’re just jealous,” is a really gross way to not examine our own actions. But in cases like this I completely agree. Plants are a luxury & the entitlement some people feel that somehow they’re owed these hard to find plants is disgusting. I feel jealous of some people’s plants. But those feelings are mine to own & deal with. Projecting that disappointment out as an attack, instead of dealing with our feelings is truly pathetic

[@Laurensji]

Feel your pain here. I have had a private collection of rarer aroids for 3-4 years - so just before the 'boom'. After this past year, I'm so done selling cuttings that have outgrown my collection via fb or having a plant Instagram because of how entitled and difficult people are to deal with. I am getting to the point I would rather throw cuttings of a mid-high 3 digit plant in the bin rather than deal with the abuse and generally nasty behaviour from too many people in the plant community. Whether it be price shaming, feeling entitled to cuttings, abuse over a courier taking too long etc etc. The amount of people who have raised PayPal disputes against me to get a refund after receiving the plant because it had slight cosmetic damage or something stupid is mind-blowing. Hoping if I take a step back it might settle in a year or two when people find a new hobby...

[@backyardedenhomestead]

I completely agree! I recently had a customer claiming she's an expert in growing and rooting plants🚩 Sold her 3 bulbs that are healthy viable and actively sprouting node and roots. Arrived in great condition! 2 weeks later, she contacted me saying she's not sure how she should plant it but she did it anyway and she's wondering why the sprout hasn't come up yet from her medium. 🤷‍♀️ 5 weeks later, she claimed a charge back and the reason? "Not as described" I was like wtf🤯 Lesson learned, if they say they k ow what they are doing then it's a 🚩😁👍

[@jaycruzjr4822]

Wow I'm not surprised. People these days are so entitled and most are theives who order stuff and request refunds to get items for free. It's sad. Sorry to hear. I'm nothing like that and would love to support you. Drop your etsy shop or website.. Aroids are my favorite and I don't price shame or behave like allot of people nowadays. Then again I'm 38 so I come from a different erra then lots of these new plant people.

[@2close2themoon]

Sad to hear you have so many bad customers. We need good sellers! The overwhelming vast majority of sellers, whether shops or private sellers, that I've dealt with have sold me great plants and the two times I had plants die due to sudden cold snaps, both times I got refunds or credits without even asking. Twice I bought cuttings from private sellers that were, let's just say, less than thrilling -- the one sent tiny leaves that let me know they're overfarming their mother plant and the other nearly strangled the stalks the node ends were so tightly wrapped in plastic wrap. Neither purchase was for very much, so I chalk those up to "lesson learned." But you might have the right idea: to wait until the FAD is over and you get people who legit want quality stuff but understand how shipping works.

[@skully6223]

@Fabulous Fancy Plants omg, I've had the same thing happen almost exactly!! I sold some dormant roots, that were absolutely fine, to someone on eBay & bc they had no idea what dormant roots were (which is why they should've never ordered them in the first place!) they claimed they received a bunch of dead sh$t & requested a refund!! I had one person plant what they received and bc, in less than a week they hadn't seen anything come up, they assumed they were dead as well. I guess I'm just a different breed of person. I get that eBay gives ppl 30 days to theoretically request a refund (which I also think is bs, but that's another convo), but when it comes to something like roots or bulbs, unless it's apparent upon arrival that there's something SERIOUSLY wrong with them, I would never return to the seller weeks later to request a refund bc a plant didn't grow after I planted it. I mean, there could be a million reasons why something doesn't sprout....& to me, that wouldn't have shit to do w/ the person who sold them to me....does that make sense? It would be the equivalent of buying a packet of seeds and planting them & then digging them back up a month later and returning them to the store bc they didn't grow!! 20 yrs ago, eBay was not the crazy place it is now. I resell toys & shoes mostly...I haven't delved into the world of actual live cuttings & from the horror stories, don't think I'm gonna! And even in those two genres, I deal with some of the same issues. If something is used, ppl assume it's MY used item...for instance, if it smells like smoke then I must be a smoker, which I'm not, but I buy from yard sales, goodwill, estate sales, etc. & sometimes even after cleaning things, they still smell. I'm like well then go buy the damn thing brand new, for much more money if you wanna be that picky!!! I'd rather lose the buyer than deal with picky ass people who want a nearly new item or even a brand new item, get it and then bitch and moan bc one little tiny thing is wrong...I actually had someone open a case on me bc a piece of cardboard was missing separating a the top of a glass item from the bottom...eBay sided with her...she sent my item back (got her money back, I lost my shipping cost both ways!) & once receiving it, she had opened a sealed item AND the piece of cardboard was inside all along, it was literally underneath the top she never picked up!!! HA! No joke!😂😂😂😂 eBay almost isn't worth dealing with bc they almost always side with the buyer, but whaddya gonna do!

[@backyardedenhomestead]

@@skully6223 right!? And when you asked for pictures or proof, they change topic!🤷‍♀️🤯😂 All selling platforms and payment processing services covers sellers for only lost and items not delivered/received and unauthorized purchase. When a buyer claims "Not as described" then as a seller, we are not covered. Therefore, as hard as it can be and as difficult it may seem, I would rather take checks, money orders and cash for my plants. These overly abused privileges for entitled bad buyers are just insanely outrageous. 🤯

[@nadinet6761]

Very true about the community being nasty! Im a small collector and seller and do most of it in private because I don’t feel like being part of this part of the community, creating my own private one :) Loved that content! And def vote yes for the watering video! Much love and support from France! (Btw i wish you would translate your videos in french because the community here is extremely nasty, et especially with price shaming! They could benefit from you!

[@Kat_Goat]

I live in New Zealand, the variegated rhaphidophora sold for $27, 000 NZD it was between private collectors it appears and it just broke the recored for the biggest plant sale on the site that it sold on (trademe)

[@tanya.quintieri]

RE money, it’s not just the plant community. I once spoke at a university about freelancing as a translator and they asked my rate. I said it and one student got up and said I’m full of BS, there’s no way anyone in the profession could make that much per hour. And back then (2012) I was charging half of what I charge today. It was hilarious. 🤣

[@mathilda6763]

It feels to me like some people forget that rare house plants are a luxury item. No one /needs/ a variegated gloriosum to survive. The people that are willing to spend the monetary equivalent of a car on a luxury item either buy it as an investment for their business or they just have enough money that spending this price on "frivolous" luxury items doesn't hurt their wallet...which means that if it weren't huse plants they would probably trade in some other luxury item like cars, boats, horses, art, fashion, jewellery, electronics or travelling. They could donate it of course,and some businesses do put money aside for charity, but if it's a business investment they'd be stupid to take too much money outside of their business ...plus donations and the free market still mean that grown people are free to decide where/ how they want to spent their "extra money". I am all for more equal opportunities and (financial, educational) resources for people in all countries but even very expensive plants are not making that much of a dent compared to other markets.

[@spailpin710]

Also on the price shaming thing... I have one word: entitlement. These are entitled people. No other way to describe them. If they want cheap plants, they can go to literally any garden centre and get a common plant. Rare plants are gonna be expensive, and more so the rarer they get - just like with any product ever. File this under "obvious things that need to be said".

[@chloekrause5984]

Girl! I just want you to know that I literally look forward to EVERY SINGLY VIDEO YOU POST !!! I LOVE YOUR content! I admire your hard ass work and everything you have created! YOUR hard work shows!!! Sorry for my rant but I literally can’t stand it when people criticize you for apologizing for noise in the background or saying you’re drama! Cuz GIRL YOU AINT !!! And if you were having drama on your channel, millions would be watching that too. YOU are amazing and I absolutely LOVE YOUR CONTENT!!! Keep up!

[@InspireDogworks]

I cannot tell you how much I enjoy your channel, but this video especially. It really gives a lovely sense of who you are as a person. Your whole conversation is very relatable.

[@kelzbelz313]

I’m still not convinced that’s not a green screen. You just walked through with some clever editing. 😜

[@ApequH]

As she did in the documentairy, she is a worldclass vr artist

[@vickyhead6428]

First ten seconds of this video killed me 🤣

[@crystalgumm3741]

Kaylee Ellen, I think we low key LOVE when the living wall waters itself!! Your reaction each time is priceless!! Lol!! Its the best living wall I've ever seen!!

[@evakollar1325]

If something is to expensive don’t buy it 🤪

[@erika9629]

Yesss I'm early Edit: 30:43 you're also extremely intelligent, in more ways than one. It's a nice change of pace in feeling like I can connect with someone through a screen. Show and tell is entertainment but intellectual stimulation while enjoying a part-time hobby makes it a different platform completely.

[@michellem4391]

“Congratulations you got a problem” 🤣 love your rants. This one was particularly hilarious

[@PamsPrettyPlants]

I ignore my hate comments and answer everyone else’s 🥴

[@hannahw8266]

I dont know dudeeee. Like aroids were so much cheaper literally a year and a half ago so it’s hard to swallow sometimes, especially for folks who have been in the hobby for a long time. I have a hard time seeing people complaining about prices as “shaming.” Obviously it’s not acceptable to personally attack sellers. That being said, people being upset that the price of plants have skyrocketed and it went from a cheap hobby to a crazy expensive one is like. Normal. Like woodworkers who experienced the price of wood skyrocketing. Also it’s clear that (NOT FROM YOU AT ALL) there is artificial manipulation of the market by holding back plants, like the photos of tables and tables of strawberry shakes from Thai growers. That’s hard to swallow. In no way does any of that justify personal attacks against you or other sellers but I think sometimes complaining about prices at all can be seen as shaming and that’s not fair.

[@Ben-ky9yq]

People showing pictures of what appears to be plenty of stock, attempting to create a narrative that these plants are being held, to create drama, increase a fb following and incite others into shaming is half of the problem. Are there what appears to be lots of plants? Yes, but that qty doesn't even scratch the surface of the demand for them. A supplier selling them all at once wouldn't make a difference to prices and additionally longer term would decrease the supply, increasing the price, since the majority of the plants shown are mother stock plants. Read between the lines and see how you are being manipulated into believing that there is more plants available than required, which is just not true.

[@hannahw8266]

@@Ben-ky9yq that’s fair, but I’m also reminded of shops like botanicaz who have almost single handedly dropped the prices of julau, darth vaderiana and campos with just propping the crap out of them.

[@H2DK]

For the Americans in the audience. 28° Celsius is around 82° Fahrenheit.

[@KayleeEllenOfficial]

Would Americans agree it was hot? 🤣🔥

[@H2DK]

@@KayleeEllenOfficial depends on the American, lol

[@knitwitchpgh]

@@KayleeEllenOfficial depends on where. In the south that's a cool day 🤣 in the north that's hot.

[@KayleeEllenOfficial]

But like... what if they have no air con 🤣

[@H2DK]

@@KayleeEllenOfficial I live in San Francisco. It would be boiling hot here at those temperatures. But you go across the bridge to east bay and that's normal. 🤷‍♂️

[@tinatran-sky9408]

I love how genuine you are. You keep doing what you're doing, obviously you're doing something right!

[@misscalathea4315]

I work for a plant shop in customer service and we get the same shit as you on a regular, so it's definitely nothing to do with you as a person! People expect plants to be as immaculate after shipping as a Chanel bag and they like spilling tea and being frustrated. Of course, there are also different, very kind and understanding people. But the crazy ones are the ones we remember, sadly!

[@manderstemple]

Your plant-wall sounds are like Hakuna Laplanta's LECA drops. I love it and look forward to them.

[@aylaruttgaizer2297]

I was thinking this during the watering. Also a collab I would love to see. Kevin and Kaylee dishing the dirt!

[@kriskrischi7571]

I've been with you and watched your journey for the past two years. And I can honestly say that you do what you do for your followers and no one else. You're not full of drama, you're just a bluntly honest person, lol. I don't understand what some people's problem is with you and why people shit talk you. I am SO proud of what you've accomplished to get where you are and who you've become. You truly have grown and I've enjoyed every bit of this journey with you. I've watched you open your shop and start it from the ground up. I don't understand why people are thinking it's a green screen, lol. That's hilarious! Screw the haters. You do you, lady! Much love! 💕

[@anum1963]

So glad I found your channel. Love watching all yiur content. Honesty is getting so rare.

[@fieldyvond]

I work for a large UK company in a complaints department. Honestly gurl I've no idea how you as technically (soz Ben haha) a one man band puts up with the utter PISH that comes out of some customers mouths. The slightest inconvenience nowadays they expect you to make the earth shake for them. You work so hard & I've been here since the calathea days & I'm proud of you 🥺 Ps please like this comment if you're gonna do a rainbow shopping bag, I would love one!

[@VivianBB27]

I'd loooove a video on roots leaves and water needs

[@debbieescobar6267]

Price shaming is ridiculous because anything is worth what someone will pay for it. Stand by your standards...you are an excellent businesswoman!

[@patriciaugarteperez2034]

I have a small shop. I had someone request a refund because they killed their Chinese money plant after they planted it in the garden bed and ‘stepped on it’. 🤦‍♀️

[@LaurenMichelle1985]

Thank you for always being blunt and honest. It’s much appreciated.

[@nataliegiles2554]

What's it like turning your passion into a business? Have you lost excitement for it at all? It's a phenomenon that happens to artists all the time and something that I'm avoiding

[@andreag8508]

"Sometimes you buy something and you dont know how to take care of it"...I feel personally judged! Lol 😂🤣

[@kendalnewman3922]

Kaylee! I am so excited! I was finally able to order from your shop today! It always seems to be sold out when I check, but I was refreshing my browser at 2:00 pm (I’m in US) AND I GOT SOMETHING! Thanks girl! Feel so lucky

[@KayleeEllenOfficial]

Thank you so much! I'm excited for you!

[@keiradevantier7499]

Love how honest you are and what you’ve said here relates to a lot of areas of life, not just plants. People being judgmental and hypocritical, coz you know they wouldn’t have a problem with it if they were the ones with the plants/money.

[@mdnitesky]

Omgosh your makeup is 🔥🔥 Love it!! 💚

[@marlaturner4788]

Kaylee Ellen I just love ther shit outta you...as a grand ma from the states..I admire how you are so down to earth..stay YOUR way and F%^K the BS!!!

[@Naravia]

You’re my god damn hero and I love everything about you 🥰 I’m just listening to all this shit you go through and have been for a couple years and you are just so strong and I love the brutal honestly.

[@Rootedintherealms]

you've never been so right. I get price shamed all the time . yesterday getting attacked for selling a TOP CUTTING 2 LEAF VARIGATED MONSTERA for 150$$$$$$ I got attacked!! Everytime I put up a sales post I get attacked and I'm so over it. it stresses me out!!!

[@neurotika]

Meanwhile I feel guilty for pricing mine at all. I never know what to base my prices off which is why I’ve sold almost none of my plants. I offered a guy to sell my begonia Julau tooted cutting and because he knew I was unsure he asked “how much did you pay for it?” Does it matter? Is that fair? We came up with a number much much lower than I see others selling for and he still asked for a discount! Like….?

[@stacieforesi5431]

I come back every week to this channel for your honestly!! THANK YOU. also ..... I would love to learn more about how to look at roots and leaves, to know not only what type of water "drama queen" they are but also to know how you choose between LECA or PON... and maybe some education on the differences between them.... again thank you for being you.

[@AngelSanchez-tt8rt]

‘Being realistic isn’t being dramatic and if you think that then you’re part of the problem’ THAT SHIT HIT😭🤯

[@Danielwright]

I just want you to know that I am sorry still for saying what I said on your Instagram if you remember and I still support you and am glad you are a strong person.

[@KayleeEllenOfficial]

All in the past my friend. Thank you for your kindness 💙

[@AleishaTowler]

I've never understood price shaming or people thinking someone controls the market, it's literally just called supply and demand and its a very basic economic principal... If someone wants to buy a plant at a huge price, that's 100% their right to do so and the seller is 100% okay to sell the plant to them at that price if that's what the buyer is willing to pay!

[@easyteh4getperson]

i didnt realize just how tall the rolling shelves are! theyre freaking ginormous!!!! 😂

[@tcmcjebus6606]

You just shot up to be my fav plant youtuber lol. I found your channel recently and have been bingeing your content which is great but this and your video on mental health are so refreshing. The potty mouth and real tea is so up my alley, don't ever change ❤️

[@sarahinthesun12]

Price shaming is insane. I completely understand that a price of a plant can vary for many reasons, and the simple concept of supply and demand should be understood before anyone has opinions on prices. You can literally name any other item for sale and if it's hard to "make", or takes time to "make" or the supply isn't meeting the demand, or a combination of all of that makes the prices the way they are. In the US, wood has tremendously gone up in price because so many people are building homes and there isn't enough supply, so people will spend more money on it to get ahold of it. At the end of the day, it's still just wood. The negativity on social media is INSANE and people need to learn to not jump down other peoples' throats right away! It's sickening and contributing to so much negative mental health. I'm so glad you are so transparent and these things need to be said more often! :)

[@tina7151]

I want that video idea of guessing plant needs!

[@ashleedouglas878]

Great video and beautiful makeup!! It’s funny what people’s perceptions of you are. Some people compare you to “Jeff bezos”, but I kinda see you as a friend ranting to me about her week while repotting plants. If I was to ask you for your opinion on prices, it would probably be because I would see you from more of a consumer perspective like myself, rather than a plant overlord 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@shaybro2891]

So I got in an argument with someone on Facebook about this very issue. Basically someone posted an albo monstera that was selling for $150 and was asking if the price was a good price. And this jerk just commented saying how she was a dumbass because the plant wasn’t worth that and how real plant people will learn to be patient. Like I think the plant community needs to establish there are different types of buyers and sellers. Do I think there are some sellers that are trying to artificially control the plant market? Yes (ie. The obliqua issue). But I don’t get this mentality of plants need to be available at a certain price all the time. Like your growing plant it takes time. It is the balance of fair compensation of time and effort I think. I don’t know maybe I am missing the mark here, but I feel like price shaming is stupid.

[@nikitimmermans]

Yes definitely a video about roots and water needs would be absolutely interesting and helpfull. ❤☺

[@tuulieve]

I had to scroll wayy down to find first comment about this! Definitely interested in this type of video, this should be on the top!

[@Rayxster]

Kaylee dropping the hard facts! 👏🏽 Businesses paying TONS of money for specimens to keep and make more plants off of, ISN'T anyone's business. Hell, even a private plant collector with the wallet to pay these prices shouldn't be shamed! You don't shame people for buying pretty cars now do ya? I'd LOVE a McLaren, I ain't even gonna be able to buy one, but I sure as hell ain't even gonna shame anyone for having one wtf? So why would you attack someone for buying a plant YOU can't afford??? It screams insecurity and shallowness. Edit: I have found a rather nice and decently big(swedish, as i am a swede) fb group for plant trading,selling, and buying. There is zero tolerance for price shaming and it is upheld by the mods and fellow members, AND I LOVE IT!!!

[@kiramoto95]

I love this video, Kaylee. Thank you so much for saying what you said as is!!!! My mom owned a veggie farm for 30yrs and people expected her to just give out the vegetables for free! You can’t argue with stupid 🤪

[@billyoungers4035]

I'm a 64 year old Midwest American Heterosexual (not then that matters), man. I have been in yoour type of business as a lifestyle and things never seem to change. Other than the technology , people just don't know how to behave. I tell you, I don't now how long it will be before you burnout. It's so overwhelming at times. You are my favorite KZbin educator because I think I am watching REAL life experience and what it takes to do it videos. THanks for telling it like it is and has always been.

[@lillymountainfarm]

My maranta plants are fairly picky, if you keep them in water without soil they lose their color or vibrance. They hate tap water, it makes their leaves go crispy, so I have to use filtered or bottled water. My larger bushy green maranta loses it's color and vibrance if I don't trim it back every now and then. I'd introduce a little bit of soil and worm castings into the leca/pon then transfer into a pot of soil. Make sure the humidity stays above 60 but no higher than 80. They love 70⁰F but can do well in 60⁰F, but I wouldn't go over 75⁰F.

[@mariauvacikova7286]

Am I out of this world if I think that you have a right to speak about plants that need a sales increase? I have no clue why people are talking about market manipulation… it’s basic MARKETING! Even if you do it… it’s absolutely normal and natural business step - new model of car - more advertising - so they are trying to increase sells. As a business owner I would be stupid to do not talk about my products … I am confused where this world is going to :) but anyway I really support you as a business woman. You are hard working young lady and just keep going. As part of British plant community I can see the jealousy toward you. WOMAN just fuck it :) haters will always stay haters

[@neurotika]

Yeah advertising isn’t market manipulation. Calling for a halt on sales of a specific plant is an unethical and illegal tactic in free market. It’s important that people understand that while “supply and demand” is the basic tenant of capitalism, it’s far from the only way it works. 🤔 Btw I just want to point out that I’m not in disagreement with you, I was just adding to the conversation. 😀

[@reivenne]

I feel like with Marantas they don't tend to get their full colouration until the leaf is fully grown. I also noticed when I divided and repotted mine (leuconeura) , it EVENTUALLY was happier and had bigger, bolder leaves. I know they're recommended to enjoy being a bit crowded, but that's just been my experience. Maybe yours was a little bit TOO crowded, so hopefully the repot will help :)

[@addisonmay23]

I feel like people who are shaming others for prices when the purchaser/seller is a business just have no idea or familiarity with running a business. You have to put a lot of money upfront and understand the long term investment and profit that will (hopefully) occur. Yeah, of course those prices are unaffordable for the standard houseplant enthusiast. There are so few of the plant-- why would they be at an affordable cost for a hobbyist? If anything, hobbyists should be excited about those exchanges bc it means that it's likely that more growers now have the plant and will start growing them and selling them, which means one day the prices will start to come down bc the supply will be up. And then you may have a chance of being able to afford one for your hobbyist plant collection! God, take a high school econ class, PLEASE. A bunch of uneducated pricks.

[@addisonmay23]

Also, don't even get me started on the costs of storing and caring for a LIVE product. Property costs, utilities, insurance, etc. Having a nursery has got to be one of financially riskiest businesses out there.

[@samanthamountain9764]

You could film silently and people would still claim you've done something wrong to purposely hurt them 🙄🙄🙄

[@regan8or]

This is one of my favorite videos yet! I love the chaos.

[@chrisnakruger1743]

I have a friend that sells plants professionally. She puts alot of time and money into growing a specific rare plant. She sells for fair price in her sales and works fairly where she gives oppurtunity to everyone to buy one and if you already bought one you cant again except when she offers one in auction. In auction buyers send the price into crazy amounts in bidding wars and then tuen around and hammer her for the auction prices! I have literally seen people escalate the price so quickly in a frenzy that they bid against themselves! Yet she will still offer the plants out of auction at normal price. She just cant win with these people shes damned either way and it really makes me sad to see the community in this state

[@ivypoppy5540]

Re: bland maranta - my version of your gus did a similar thing with its coloring and once I split it into 3 pots they started growing new leaves with proper coloring again. Not sure if that always works, I just know it worked with mine. Best of luck!

[@OfficerFloofles]

I found one of those mean groups on Facebook about a month ago. It was shocking. I left immediately. They strike me as people who wish they were still in high school.

[@joankennes3230]

Same thing with FB groups on cats (lost and found or how to make your house cat friendly): you get gunned down when you don't lock up your cats inside. Quite shocking.

[@ilearn8950]

Seriously dude, it's no ones business what you spend your money on. It's between you and the bank, everyone else can jog on haha

[@Leia_Obi]

I fucking love your attitude and honesty. The plant community is so unbelievably toxic it honestly takes the joy out of buying/selling plants. So much shady, backstabbing, two faced behavior goes on in the plant community. It really makes me want to delete all social media, I want to enjoy plants again! It is so frustrating

[@kathrined.7999]

Jealousy is so prevalent now a days. I resell vintage decor and collectibles. The amount of resellers tearing other resellers down for pricing anything above a “modest profit” in their eyes is crazy. The term I hear thrown around a lot is “price gouging” which here in the US legally only applies to necessities during states of emergency; not this pair of vintage gold plated cuff links in my shop 😂 Love your content and unapologetic attitude!

[@a3anaart247]

Something is worth what someone else would pay for it ... the rest can shut it :) love your channel

[@emlight2691]

I agree that the community is totally brutal especially with price shaming. I’m even experiencing it trying to sell and start my own shop. And people don’t even know of the actual plant. They just get mad that it’s $$. I’ve had to leave a couple groups because of certain people who commented every time on my posts shaming me. Im honestly over the community 🥺😞 like my prices are lower than what the average ones are selling for. It really discourages people.

[@lunatheleo]

Feel you on nasty customers! I used to work in customer service for a jewelry brand and received abuse daily from unreasonable customers! It’s really not right how some people deal with shops. I think they’re just after free products and attention.

[@sarahsplantpals739]

K wait who the f**k thinks you record infront of green screens I'm crying laughing over here in Canada there friend 🤦‍♀️😂❤

[@pfeiferfarrier]

I work in a hotel and get the same thing. Guest didn't get their wake up call so I gave comped their stay and they still have a terrible review. They just got a $200 stay for nothing but decided to trash us online!? What is wrong with people?

[@RoseLe]

Hi Kaylee, I swear I'd love to plant with you and just chit chat! You seem like a very down to earth person! You don't need to justify how you spend your money. It's your money and no one else's business how you spend. Your plant shop is your company and you put so much work into it that you are allowed to take an income and spend on what makes you happy!! You don't and that's very impressive! On "not having" hobby... I disagree. Being a gardener is your hobby and you love it so much that you open your own place shop and you're doing something you love everyday.

[@carolynstephenson2915]

Great video, would love for you to do one on the difference in plant roots as this is not something I had even considered when it came to the needs of a plant. I don't understand the shit you get and people's thought process that things are your fault because you have a rare plant shop 🙄 Get you on the heat, here in UK we are not used to these kinds of temperatures 🥵

[@emilywood6830]

How'd you get those cool emjoji stickers!?

[@carolynstephenson2915]

@@emilywood6830 the emojis are from being a member of Kaylee's channel

[@jennthezumbanator5242]

People who tell you “it’s annoying when you keep apologizing for___” are just controlling. I could care less how much you apologize for whatever. You’re human. I appreciate you mentioning certain things in the background because yeah, I wouldn’t ever know...it’s nice to be virtually a part of your world. Keep being you Kaylee Ellen 💚

[@KorbinMiles]

Me and my wife love all your content . Having also been part of the KZbin community I know people can suck sometimes sorry and keep doing you!

[@robertoarroyo2434]

I love this channel because of the honesty in ALL your videos. I have learned a lot about plants and how to judge their price and get advantages from the market.

[@ChiefQueef30]

I’m honestly so confused that people accuse you of such bull. I started watching your videos in 2020, and you’ve come across very genuine and knowledgeable 💖💖💖 thank you for taking us on this journey with you

[@brokenkeys1112]

I totally agree with your noticing of the thickness of their roots and the correlation that that has with the water requirements. This appears to extend past aroids such as orchids, like cattleya, some phalaenopsis, angraecums and vandas with thick fleshy roots can handle under watering well and prefer to dry out quite a bit between watering and the ones with thin, fine roots like oncidiums, draculas and bulboyphullums like more moisture and like to stay moist

[@reivenne]

But also.... sorry, but people saying "its gross that someone will spend £100,000 on a decorative plant when thousands of people starve and die every day" is a perfectly valid criticism. You linked to the wealth disparity chart, so you're aware what even that relatively small amount of money could do.

[@kateoc8]

But that argument is nonsensical because by that token you're implying nobody should spend their money on anything that isn't essential for survival. So jewels, fast or vintage cars, couture, wines etc etc....why not plants?