Kelly Starrett Explains Voodoo Floss Ft. Knees Over Toes Guy

[@canuke]

Senior Olympic lifter here. Got myself some Voodoo floss a few months ago, as I was getting into heavier weights and my knees were complaining afterward. It’s been a complete game changer for my post-lifting mobility recovery. Wrapping my knees and doing just five slow, deep, full squats is enough to completely take away any pain or discomfort and makes my knees feel easily twenty years younger. This stuff really does work like magic. Worth every penny and you don’t need to spend money on a physiotherapist.

[@2_572]

So it is just called voodoo floss? And can you buy these at dicks sporting goods?

[@TidyIsaak]

Kelly Starrett is the man... so great to see this collaboration!

[@TB-vb1st]

I love Kelly and watched his videos regularly back in the day. I wonder if he's ill here, that's some Darth Vader level breathing.

[@mushymush223]

Kelly Starrett: *Opens his mouth* "Oh WoW"

[@iamnotyourbuddyGUY]

Yeah that was super annoying in the beginning

[@rmmm6725]

Haha yeah for sure

[@evanwilliams5678]

That's how I sound when I'm humoring somebody that I think is full of shit. "Yea" "wow" "for real" "damn" "no shit" then finally I have enough and just try to escape the situation 😂

[@aidanlamping3493]

First off your guys channel has helped me tremendously but As someone who currently suffers from a partially torn posterior tibial tendon and as someone who has suffered from ankle sprains all their life. I am interested in the voodoo flossing protocol Ben used when recovering from his ankle injury. If you guys could do more videos focusing on the ankle and ankle injuries that would be greatly appreciated.

[@830Vio]

He did a video on this already, go bulletproof those ankles Aidan! kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5OadoaupcSbkKc

[@chromeasteroid7544]

I think ben did a video about ankle flossing. Hope you heal up well!

[@kyled9357]

Did you have success in healing your torn posterior tibial tendon with the floss? I have a hockey injury to my posterior tibial tendon (took a puck to the inside of my skate) from 4 months ago that isn’t healing. Resting it completely to let it heal isn’t an option as I’m very active. The pain isn’t that bad and only presents itself in specific non standard movements so I can work around it but it’s still not healing so I’m looking for whatever I can find to help

[@troyharrington7043]

I don't understand how this shit isn't just global knowledge and practice... Great content once again thanks guys!

[@Smilez8916]

Same here, I just asked my pt if she knew who Kelly was. She had no clue🤦🏾‍♂️

[@douglasbubbletrousers5622]

Because it doesn't make big pharma $$$$. I'm a medical provider no longer practicing medicine and that's how the system of education is designed. Sad but true.

[@martinguzman6673]

Been voodoo flossing to heal my tennis/ golfers elbow for 3 months. Pain has gone away almost all the way and my strength in my arms has Increased to be able to do pain free workouts again. Not fully healed yet but I’m definitely on my way to being 100% healed ☝️

[@nomagicfin]

Hi Martin, I have the same issue. Any particular video that you have been watching for tennis/golfer's elbow and flossing? Thx!

[@rmmm6725]

Flossy wossy

[@jameswilsonmusic7749]

​@@nomagicfinx2

[@kendm21]

You made this video on my birthday, I'm just seeing it. awesome late birthday gift to a 59 year old guy with one knew bone on bone nearly, torn meniscus in both knees (one repaired years ago then retorn) degenerate disc disease, at least 20 old fractures etc etc. Thanks guys! And man I'm pumped to get trying these when they come in and I just joined the knees over toes guy coaching and pumped for that too! Everything made since to me as soon as I started watching the videos from you both and I'm looking forward to going BACK a ways to better days when I was way more active and pain free! Thanks again!

[@lanesutton317]

The O.G.!!! Kelly has been on this for awhile greatest book Supple leopard gang

[@LadyMarimeya]

YES. From 15:50-end amen, amen, and amen. You can get terrible news from an MRI telling you how awful your joints are but it DOES NOT necessarily mean that it is causing the pain. Pain is from the nervous system. It can be traumatized and sensitized. There may no longer truly be a reason for the pain but your nervous system still shoots out alarms because it remembers the injury. You have to change that information and give it new information. Change how it perceives. I work in physical rehab and I almost groan every time patients say, "I just got my MRI results..." and I try to explain pain and how it works (as we understand it) to help them make good decisions. Can the pain be from an actual physical cause that needs surgery, etc.? Yes, of course. But more often than not it is not the real reason for the pain. It's the traumatized nervous system. Let's retrain that.

[@Odoyellrules]

That’s where I’m at. I got to retrain my brain

[@tylerjcranford]

Been a fan of Kelly since 2010. Discovered knees over toes guy about two years ago. Really cool to see them together. :)

[@peterwroberts4379]

I was waiting for this day it’s all coming together all these superb minds in one room massive

[@natemacinnes]

Love the Starrett / Knees Over Toes Guy cross over! Was just wondering if they had crossed paths yesterday. 🔥

[@yallaskate]

The collab we needed. Firas Zahabi has been against KOTG and leans towards Kelly but good to see you guys are on the same page. Hopefully this will clear that up for him

[@b-sideplank]

They are not on the same page. Ben's a good guy, love him. His system, however, is juvenile compared to how groundbreaking, substantial and pioneering Kelly's work has been. People without a long enough movement background or expertise don't realize this.

[@eclipsewrecker]

@@b-sideplank I think that you are pigeonhole’ing “on the same page.” They are meeting at a common ground from two different approaches/focuses.

[@OSMtraining]

@@b-sideplank Kelly's been developing his system much longer than kotg has. Kelly's systems were "juvenile" as well when he was only a few years into as kotg is. Go back and see how much Kelly has removed from his system to fine tune it to where it is today

[@powerhouse1981]

@@b-sideplank kotg gets right to the point for exactly what tons of people need, for free. Im sure Kelly could have told me I need Nordics and tibialis raises, but he didn't help me find that out instantly myself. Sometimes too much information isn't a good thing.

[@b-sideplank]

@@powerhouse1981 Ben gets right to the point - there is an underlying problem in this perception. For most people, they are looking for "what exercise I can do for X, Y, and Z goals/problem". And that is how all movement/performance coaches approached the issue. And people looking to get solutions from the phsyios/fitness experts also approached (thought about) the problems in the similar way. What Kelly has done is that he provided a new paradigm (the reason why his work has been so influential). You will need to read his seminal book (BSP) to actually understand this truly. The paradigm shift he helped create was to not approach the musculoskeletal health in a "problem-A-solved-by-exercise-X" sort of way. He worked on normative human structure and movements, and their relation to musculoskeletal fitness. People like yourself who are not aware of this or don't understand this (and this is not an insult, no judgment) will naturally appreciate someone showing a bunch of exercises promoted as solving specific issues, because in their minds that is the operating paradigm. But Kelly changed this paradigm, acknowledged by all movement experts/his peers. So, yes, Kelly could have told you about "tibialis raises", but that's not what he does, even though you think that's what he should have offered. What he actually does is far more impactful, if you take the time to learn about it. Also not sure why you seem to imply Ben gives out all information for free, but Kelly doesn't when he has thousands of videos, and a book (which is not free but just a one time payment, and you can read it for free from a library).

[@jimchoate6590]

Just got my bands and what a difference. I’ve had sore knees for years, so if i can notice a difference in one exercise I have hope that at 50 i can be 💯 percent in my mobility and strength in and outside the gym. Thanks a ton

[@Nicolette-TV]

Any update?

[@DanielDeMontreal]

So much value in this video. A+

[@Genshuosho]

Two of my heroes together thank you!

[@kevinorr6880]

Amazing story. Thank you! I’m trying to get myself through ACL rehab, blindly. Love voodoo.

[@thereal_seandavid]

I’m a Corrective Exercise Specialist and am four weeks post-op for an FKR today. I’ve got near full mobility already. I’ve used flossing to fix severe extensor and flexor tendinitis in my elbows, and am wondering: Is it too soon to use flossing to get the full mobility back yet? I appreciate this invention brother, has been a life saver for me and my clients. 🙏🏽

[@yusufcatal199]

Thank you but I have a question, if pain is the allert system of our body to not damage ourselves and if floss band hide that feeling how can we know that we don't damage ourselves?

[@bellevuepersonaltraining4602]

Very important question.

[@rmmm6725]

Gotta do it, smash it.

[@ConstructiveMinds100]

Probably depends on injury type. Fresh/old

[@juanwick8820]

Thank you for brining these great coaches onto your channel. 👊

[@dancemontec]

Just ordered a pair of floss! You all sold me! Knees over toes family already helped me a ton I look forward to adding this

[@tylerspencer5486]

I'm incredibly grateful for this video. My right (bad) knee flares up after a few sets of doing the ATG split squats but only after I do a set where my right knee is in the back and didn't understand why. I couldn't figure it out why the pain was happening even with my front foot being highly elevated. This knee has given me problems for years. I'm a former wrestler and now coach and my right knee was my lead leg/ shooting side.

[@TuMadre1337]

weak patellar tendon maybe?

[@mrjeff7487]

Thanks for the videos! I’m loving the content you’re putting up. How would I apply this principle to hips? Thank you

[@ChipSpencer123]

Thanks you guys. I’m glad I found this. I tried it, and did some movements that are usually quite painful, and had a reduction in the pain with the floss applied.

[@revazzhvania3795]

Mark please dont ever stop recording this videos

[@ht2693]

Im going to try this for my hyper mobility syndrome, i have never felt so tight and riddled with pain especially in my hips. Hope it works.

[@jayterra2060]

How’s it going with the hips? I’m also hyper mobile and have hip dysplasia , wondering how this is working for u

[@joybarber6974]

This is excellent! I ordered some flossing tape and can’t wait to try this! Thank you so much!

[@artincorona]

I was lucky enough to attend Kelly's clinic in San Jose around 2011 , 2012 when he was working for CrossFit. This is some good stuff

[@jamesgallant3553]

Kelly, thank you for your time. I am a 70+ male with arthritis, will flossing arthritic knees be helpful in dealing with pain and flexibility.

[@kelvinstirbys6714]

Always love your info. Life gets better with it!

[@WBJAdventures]

hello we are from the wbj channel and we are subscribing to help your channel, keep up the good work😉

[@maximegalan5309]

Amazing content love knee over toe guy Does someone can give me more information about her knee Irréversible cartilage damage ? Because I'm having the same issue with my knee

[@2xXInazumaXx2]

Are there any concerns flossing with seniors? I work with seniors and want to be confident that there aren't possible complications with blood clotting or other circulatory system contraindications due to the compression on vessels.

[@jaydog9329]

Manz was literally in the deep squat position for more than 3/4ths of the entire vid. Bruh.

[@dr.jamiegallantnd1820]

Love your stuff!

[@alexdromero13]

It's cool to see this. I've been doing these movements for years intuitively without knowing it had a name!

[@BoardGamesandBarbells]

This is amazing! Thank you for bringing this information! I have really tight calves, would voodoo flossing help with that or is it only beneficial for joints?

[@matPolaschek]

For what it's worth I bought Rockfloss from Rebel Sport and the instructions have calf.

[@BoardGamesandBarbells]

@@matPolaschek thanks! I appreciate the info 👍

[@SwEdd1e]

Kelly always sounds labored when speaking and breathing

[@nurik]

Those vocal cords need some flossing :)

[@jayterra2060]

Hi thanks for this video. I’m not sure if you mentioned when to floss when injured. Before or after exercise? Thanks!

[@ariell.7307]

Very good Infos but what if I have those voodoo stripes and don't know how to use them? Is there a certain way to bine the bands ? I mean for a ankle strain..

[@kikik2025]

So if swelling and pain resolves for ankle sprain, can a VB player return with a soft lace up ankle brace?

[@Kevin-yq1ls]

I've been dealing with some meniscus issues/pain, my physical therapist couldnt really determine what is was though. Would this work for getting some blood flow through there? And how would I go about applying the bands, cover the knee cap or go above and below the knee?

[@emersonpavezzi8170]

I would recommend sledding backwards to get bloodflow into those hard to reach areas.. 5 min backwards slowly ramping up the intensity as you go. Great for a serious blood pump to the knees.. Now I wonder if you could add a floss band to backward sledding for even more benefit 🤔

[@Kevin-yq1ls]

@@emersonpavezzi8170 I have been doing the sled and it works wonders for me. Adding some bands while doing the backwards sled might actually be a way to get even more blood flow, great idea!

[@itsagoodday2165]

Do you this would help after a surgery when you used post op at least three months? Asking after i had a chest tube inserted, i feel pain in rib cage area that just need to be released. I will check with my pelvic floor therapist.

[@mgettemy]

"Totally"

[@TheMyrmidon22]

Is there a way to apply this idea to the hips?

[@Danimal325]

Could I floss a neck injury without choking myself?

[@richardgaynor6113]

Cutting off blood flow to the brain quickly results in death. Are you still with us?

[@wearetheremnants1615]

Worth a try 😂

[@Aviation_Professional]

We're gonna need that ankle voodoo video Ben!

[@nurik]

it already exists. check out 'ankle sprain protocol' video of his. Also recommend "Ankle compression demo | Feat. Kelly Starrett | MobilityWOD" . Big time ankle sprain survivor here.

[@danquilty6580]

@@nurik i'm interested in this as i have fractured cartilage in an ankle and motion is limited, somewhat painful years later

[@thatheis]

I was waiting for the day when these guys would get together

[@mildredfix3468]

I have a full hinge knee revision and it is stuck at 50% bent. What do i do for this. When i cant get it to go straight again

[@yellowleaf28]

Ok I was reluctant because I thought it would remove blood flow/circulation or handicap my knee, but will try

[@johimarosorio]

Would this help for plantar fasciitis? I’ve been having pain in my heel for a couple months now and it’s really annoying. I had it in my left foot a couple years ago, it went away but now it came back on my right foot.

[@jdigitalseven7]

Most adults can't sit in a deep squat flat footed like he is throughout this video. Very impressive.

[@Dontbustthecrust]

that's because of the knee replacements.

[@littlepea12]

Can I voodoo floss both knees simultaneously, or should it be one after another?

[@curtinity]

Yooo finally the story behind the name!

[@Iamam313]

Does this help reverse osteoarthritis as well? I really hope so cuz I'm not even 30y old and I've had a lot of pain in the last 10 years 😅 and I'm ready for it to stop forever. Ordered my voodoo floss and I'm gonna do this daily, how many times is ideal to do daily? I feel like just once wouldn't be enough 😅 is there a maximum amount of times you can do daily?

[@jamesgallant3553]

If there is pain in the knees the next day after flossing, should you continue or is this expected?

[@miamidolphinsfan]

this is such a damn good video

[@pedroportale4739]

I have a question to this. Is the floss also maybe helpful for getting more mobile in the ankles, too?

[@jamesoconnor1156]

thanks for this. In the video he only wrapped above knee - for my knee (close to bone on bone and meniscus issues), should I wrap above AND below joint? And or over? Thanks

[@jayterra2060]

Did you ever get an answer ?

[@geno235]

Will the floss band help with meniscus tear ?

[@trumpone4443]

Ive been giving away knock off voodo tape to people for like 8 year's. Its truly magic. I have plantar facetious currently totally forgot i could use it for this.

[@zachkonings9968]

Pilon fracture in my ankle. Video of how to wrap the ankle?

[@XowntXihqX]

is it possible to wrap around bigger body parts such as lumbar area or si-joint or the hip?

[@GordonKWaddell]

Finally I understand voodoo floss....

[@yungjoj1903]

Weird ass jargon. Homie outright says he doesn't even know what it does, how can he possibly explain it?

[@eja35oz]

Oh wow

[@itsagoodday2165]

Where to buy the floss? Saw on Amazon, they all look same to me

[@SeanTobin92]

Any kind on Amazon works - I got the “wodnation” floss and it works great.

[@itsagoodday2165]

@@SeanTobin92 thank you

[@bh5817]

Rogue fitness

[@Mattchew2232]

How do you know when to use a floss band underneath the knee in addition to the top one? I've seen both methods used, and I'm not sure what the difference is.

[@joekoltes879]

Were the pain is

[@VIEW-ut3bu]

GREAT SEGGIE!!

[@bogdanshevchuk5101]

Wow. Woah. Wooow

[@blakej5974]

I need that hoodie.. what brand is that? Oh great video btw

[@Steve_Ragnarson]

Voodoo bands vs floss bands? What's the difference? KoT guy did a video on floss bands, he had one above the kneecap, one below.

[@b-sideplank]

no difference

[@landdweller7523]

I don't understand how this works... But this works. Listen this is the best recovery device I've used in my life.

[@norcalzack]

If i feel like i'm about to poo myself...... noted.

[@Senai88]

Wooooowwwwww. Wow!

[@JRGT9]

What’s the name of the guy he said “anything with jump stretching is… “

[@channcebaca6576]

KELLY STARRETT I LOVE YOU.

[@Kiddowesth]

Wow.. oh.. wow... Wow...

[@TheRealAbraxas]

4:42

[@devonslater5470]

WOW

[@emersonpavezzi8170]

I disagree with Kelly saying that the raised Split Squat is not a scaled version of the exercise.. I do agree with the stimulus on the back quadricep and hip flexor to increase 10x but that was always the key in the ATG split squat and by raising the front leg it does regress the amount of force in BOTH the front leg AND the back leg. So I think that raising the front leg is a great regression tbh. Kelly is a legend in the game and I learn a LOT from him and the information he puts out. I just wanted to point out how I felt about what he mentioned there.. @ 4:00 mark

[@b-sideplank]

you didn't understand what he said.

[@DM-jt4rh]

MMMM HMMMM....WOW......YEAH.....RIGHT.....VERY NICE.....SURE.....OKAY

[@rmmm6725]

Women in particular believe they are superior in communication because of verbal feedback. Actual successful communicators understand to only speak when you have something to contribute. Notice Mark wasn’t going “oh, wow, ooohhh, yeah.”

[@rickl4159]

Haha I feel like Kelly was trying to talk them out of bragging on him

[@faithhopecharity2843]

Oow...the title make it seems you guys are now into some harry potter hocus pocus things.

[@WeighedWilson]

Flossin'? Where did I get Munson?

[@neilu.k.1364]

How many ‘wows’ are in the first 1 minute ..? 😂

[@kemicbi]

instead of getting "treatment" from physiotherapists for regular people they should have classes where you work through movements with tools like these.

[@blajing]

Well, simple home techniques like this can supplement...but a trained pro also has hundreds of hours of schooling, continuing education, and thousands of hours of clinical experience with thousands of patients that can't simply be replaced.

[@donaldsmith6644]

Kelley: knows his stuff Knees over toes guy: a complete hack!

[@junebanks4163]

Why would he take in all you said and then say “ Voodoo “ ? Where’s the connection ?

[@deanblais4647]

For elbows as well? My triceps at my elbow sounds like a gravel truck

[@BorderlineBrilliance]

I wonder how that voodoo floss would work on my shoulder.

[@alshaifhir]

"Marc Bell's knees and hips are a couple of racoons on fire in a dumpster" 😂

[@shaktishaker]

Cant say flossing does much for my knees when they swell.

[@jaydog9329]

8:14 - She even talks like Knees over toes guy lmao.

[@feelinghealingfrequences7179]

who is sh3? whats h3r background?

[@MrnKrm]

The lady has some dorsiflexion issue. wrap the calves instead of the knee!

[@Nielsbaum]

Damn… Kelly’s breathing doesn’t sound so good

[@MelanieSakowski]

@14:30 🙌🏻

[@danquilty6580]

this is awesome i just wish he explained it a bit better. Two circulatory systems whaaaat

[@headbandassasin]

Dude sounds like he's gonna pass out.

[@GlacialScion]

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