Ken Predicts the Future - Gun Guys Ep. 18

[@thefatfrog713]

My son bought me a reflex red dot for one of my handguns . Now I want one for every handgun I own . I'm age 62 .

[@goinhot9133]

Much easier

[@jonsander895]

Major respect for these two men. I really appreciate the insight/wisdom they share in these "Gun Guys" videos.

[@bearc1373]

I do as well. These guys are extremely knowledgeable. 🇺🇸

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Big ups to Ken & Bill. They are old, slow but they have many years of sage advice...

[@TheSuburban15]

Sage Dynamics posted a 20,000 round RMR video yesterday. I won't say that the tiny optics are as reliable as iron sights, but they're getting real close. When Aimpoint removes heads from rectal cavities, and increases battery life of the ACRO, then they'll be a contender too. It would probably help if pistols were made for optical sights, rather than adapted as an afterthought. A reciprocating slide is not an ideal mounting point for optics.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I'd add too the Aimpoint ARCO 1 is $600+ 😬. Its not like 90% of the US gun buying public or even sworn LE agency buyers would spend that $ on rear sights. My city's PD(900+ sworn 👮🏻‍♂️) got brand new 9mm SIG P226R sidearms in 2009 by going & saying: we need new pistols but we will buy new SIGs so we can save $ on duty gear, training, ammunition, etc. The city council approved it 📑💲🏛. They still issue, use SIG classic models; 2019.

[@stunod1479]

_Suburban_ ok you keep waiting for the RMR to be as reliable as iron and ill keep improving my hits speed and performance with an RMR.

[@actionjksn]

Because of where the optical site needs to be located for it to be useful, there's not much choice but to mount it on the reciprocating slide. Semi-automatic pistols would need a major redesign for that not to be the case.

[@FirearmEnthusiast]

@@stunod1479 They’re both equally good

[@markcurry3083]

@@FirearmEnthusiast not as distance. Irons obscure your view of a target at 50-100 yards depending on the size

[@edwardebroome8]

I really enjoy listening to these like minded, knowledgeable and experienced guys! My father started me into this culture and I’ll pass it ALL to my son. Let’s make sure this country stays free.

[@elijahbrooks8589]

Only thing I disagree with is needing the NRA. They’ve shown multiple times their first choice is anti-2A. GOA

[@MrChuckwagon55]

Your absolutely right, but the NRA is much more powerful and rich, and has a direct line of communication to Trump, but they always buckle unlike the GOA.

[@martinedwin8293]

It’s funny how leftists hate the NRA but most pro 2A people think the NRA is too liberal

[@Wolfstanus]

@@MrChuckwagon55 Trump is not pro gun. NRA is a business nothing more

[@panzer5033]

Firearms Policy Coalition is in the trenches fighting unconstitutional laws in court while NRA tries to fundraise and GOA signs petitions.

[@mnrodriguez]

@@Wolfstanus, who will you vote for? Bernie? Warren? Pete ...?

[@billterry967]

A man could learn so much just to sit down and listen to these men talk. The fastest 17 minutes.

[@truckert9729]

Here we are 7 months later and all hell has broken loose. Ammo prices are nuts it you can find it and we have millions of new gun buyers. Oh what interesting times....

[@Siskiyous6]

Ken was at The Lehmi County Big Bore Revolver Shoot in September, what a pleasure it was to talk with this gentleman. He represents his sponsors well. I put a red dot on my pistol last week.

[@jlj8718]

This one one the Best video you guys did, congratulations to Ken and Bill, your are are great 👍🏼

[@WFORacer]

Wisdom from our elders. Thank you gents !

[@InGratitudeIam]

Thank you, gentlemen. It was wonderful being able to witness this discussion.

[@skyhop]

RDS on handguns has already taken off. RMR type 2 is tougher than most guns it'll ever be mounted on and the battery life is measured in years. The RMR is the only one that is meeting the mark for a serious defensive use pistol mounted red dot. Already been proven through 20,000 round tests, being dropped on concrete every 500 rounds.

[@rurouniad]

*cough* Sage Dynamics *cough*

[@markcurry3083]

Now we have dozens of solid red dots. Sigs are pretty good, and Holosun makes incredible optics

[@skyhop]

@@markcurry3083 I'm still on the same battery as when I made that comment lol.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Ken's laying down the knowledge! 💡💡💡. Many valid & important topics...

[@ES44AC-2]

Awesome knowledge. I finally went with a red dot on a pistol because of my vision so I can shoot it better uncorrected now. Toying around with the 508t now and I like the options for dots and circles with dot.

[@acpacp7480]

As and IDPA member and active participant, I've seen in my neck of the woods the optic carry division explode. I own an RMR Trijicon and have done matches but the transition has been slow. Ken Hackathorn is spot on the red dot is the future.

[@michaelthompson7570]

Been Wilson fan since the race gun days! One smart dude!

[@janvodros8238]

My deepest respect. Perfect argumentation. Thank gents.

[@aussieexpat]

My Romeo1 came on my gun, from the factory, 8k rounds down range, 1 battery change in 3 years.

[@Grevlain]

I feel like this vid was made 5 years ago....with all due respect.

[@jimcasarella9055]

I really appreciate the insight, thank you!

[@DarknessNation]

It is nice to see two of my gunsmith idols talk about issues like this! "Also the only people that sells custom parts for beretta 92 guns allowing me to customize it to my liking despite me being in California."

[@nightfury6836]

It's kind of ironic that the people who always say the most profound stuff usually think they're not that smart. Great video!! Always enjoy listening to Ken.

[@errol1921]

What I would like to know is why all these big companies think the government market is bigger than the civilian market

[@TheSuburban15]

Procurement with somebody else's money vs. purchases by individuals that earned the money they're spending.

[@SnoopySeventyFour]

they are predicting there will be no civilian market

[@stunod1479]

The civilian market is dominated by cheapskates that buy sub $500 guns that see 15 rounds and are put away. Not a good demo to build a business on.

[@jellyfrosh9102]

The military spent almost 600,000,000 dollars on just the M17 pistol program. I can't think of many other ways to make that much money with a gun in less than a decade, let alone a handgun.

[@jacobharrod6912]

I'm a 1911 guy and pretty brand loyal as well. 33 years old here. Since Colt decided not to sell rifles anymore I am switching to BCM. I still love and carry my Lightweight Commander everyday. It has WC trigger parts. I am loyal to WC as well.

[@ProForceSecurity]

Excellent video. I would love to see more of these!!!

[@johnnymontalvo5620]

Good call about the “competitive markets.” I think that the companies that do well now, during the whole new gun owner craze, are the companies that have good entry level options (competitive level markets). Guns that are great first time choices, and can inspire the interest that will have the customer want to segue into the more premium stuff.

[@Gumby56]

In the long run Ken, you were right about the 40.

[@getoffmylawn8986]

1911 for me until the end. Never has let me down when things got serious.

[@kyle2441]

Its 2019 old man... 2 words... Glock 19

[@DinoNucci]

Zzzzzz

[@markcurry3083]

@@kyle2441 sig…p320… non shit stock trigger lol

[@tmaddrummer]

Thanks and Blessings!!!

[@halfdollar86]

I must be an old soul. I love metal frame, DA/ SA and SA service size pistols. They are by far my favorite to shoot. I admit I don’t carry them, but I love collecting them and plinking with them.

[@richb.4374]

I still own a couple and I would still trust my life with one as a CCW. The only reason I do not carry them is because I prefer the light weight of my polymer striker fired pistols since I carry every day. The old DA/SA metal framed pistols are heavy and since I live in Florida, you have to keep on top of them to avoid corrosion. It's simply more convenient to carry the polymer framed pistols.

[@mikestrunk3282]

Browning HiPower is the best 9mm ever made and is the most shootable. I have plenty of Glocks and CZ's but the HP just works.

[@vincentj3093]

Mike Strunk - just saw a HP for sale for 1,200.00 Nice pistol.

[@spitfiremac]

Wow. So much respect lost for this guy.

[@Hornet135]

why?

[@jeffersonmorris888]

"Millennial" here, yes I love 80% AR lowers. They got me started in machining, now any excuse to fire up the lathe or mill is something I look for.

[@chriskucharski871]

My sig p365xl has a red dot and also has co sights if the dot battery goes out but regardless if you're in close point shooting is more practical than taking time to line up the sights or dot. I like red dots and a lima laser for options if I have to take a longer distance shot and have time to aim.

[@willypp13]

I could watch them for hours talking about this stuff

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Too many "gunners" & all flash no substance weekend warriors think they know it all or the newest, latest thing is what's best. These old 🐶 know the new & the old tricks. BTW, I'm 48 & a US Army veteran. I vividly remember how 1000s of "gunners" & LE 👮🏻‍♂️ types trashed the 9x19mm, .38spl, .380acp saying the .40 type calibers; .400corbon, 10mm, .357sig, 9x23Winchester, 9x21mm Dillon, .40Super would lead the way... 🙄

[@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel]

Awesome! Thanks guys for insight and perspective.

[@denisstump5874]

We are not afraid of bump stocks. The NRA should not be spreading fear about bump stocks. Why did the NRA? Say it was a good thing to get rid of bump stocks. Isn't that an infringement on our Second Amendment?

[@tomjefferson2024]

It IS an Infringement! Not happy with Trump about it! BTW: I hate bump stocks, they are just play toys. But, If People want them, the 2nd Amendment supports it.

[@nmhvactech5474]

I shoot USPSA Limited with M&P & CZ TSO, but I really want to switch to Carry Optics. OR pistols ARE the future and I want in now!!! My CC pistol does have an optic and I feel the positives out way the negatives . My sights are visible through the red dot and the batteries last a long time for me. I’m use the holosun 507 which is dual powered. The RMR, Holosun, and Aimpoint are all durable and reliable. The industry needs to go the RMR pattern as the Leupolds are not. Yes near a big window but they are not that durable. I’m not a millennial but it is easy to see why striker fire polymer frame guns are so popular. They are simplistic, easy to repair, low maintenance, and to customize. I believe the polymer frames flex and reduce recoil some. For steel guns they have to be Heavy!!

[@imstevemcqueen]

He was right on the 'builds'

[@DrumandPianoDude]

My primary carry is Glock (19, 17, 43, 26, or 30). I enjoy the simplicity of Glock, plus the aftermarket support. However, I love and respect the 1911 platform. As for a vehicle gun, I prefer a dbl action with a safety, and a pocket gun in dbl action only with a 9-11lb trigger pull, so I actually cover the most popular type of gun to the least commercially popular. I'm the odd one in a way. My guns are tools, and I employ different tools for different jobs. I agree on the red dot thing. I don't have the best eyesight, but keeping both eyes open and keeping good point shoot techniques helps a lot with plain sights.

[@formerpilgrim4934]

STI 2011 type pistols are definitely going to become more popular in the future as carry guns.

[@asiannerdz4]

former pilgrim someone needs to make a cheaper version

[@aussieexpat]

That's not going to happen.... They just weigh too much. The whole market is going lighter and thinner with the only trade off willing to be made is capacity. P365 and hellcat shows we can have our cake and eat it too.

[@thinman8621]

I try to avoid gun fights that require shots over 15 yards. Dot guns are fun to shoot but not really needed for personal protection.

[@seanwhite304]

I have a custom G19 made by Agency Arms . It has Holoson 508T red dot . I haven't had t to to tighten the screws yet but have been told every 7500 rounds or so . I have little iver 3000 through mine so far . I really only use 147g FMJ or 147g HST. The 508T runs off of solar panel in broad daylight . Even if you don't use the Solar and use LED . It has 50,000 hour battery life . Sage Dynamics has some awesome R&D on red dots mounted to pistols . The RMR type 2 has over 20,000 and 508T I below has 10,000 rounds . Now my MOS Glocks . Every 2500 rounds or so I have to tighten the screws . It's maybe an 1/8 of a turn to retighten . I don't know enough to know that the red dot mounted pistols are there yet . I know for my application it is for me . My vision doesn't arellow me to shoot BUIS as well . I still can use them . I just prefer red dot . I've taken the time to learn how to use them on pistols . I don't see myself ever going back to BUIS on pistols . Either way you guys are 58,000 times more knowledgeable than me . So I trust your judgment. Thanks guys

[@MrHotrod888888]

Great men and video. I love the 1911 design. The only negative thing about Wilson Combat is the price. They start at $2200 and top out at $6000 on a average. You have to be rich to own one. The middle class can't afford one of these guns. Like owning a Rolex. I own a budget 1911 between $500-$700 and works great! And I don't need fine tuning ($$$) to make it run proficient.

[@stupiditypissesmeoff330]

They aren’t a middle class gun bud. I mean it’s as simple as that.. they turn a normal 1911 into a fucking Ferrari. Middle class don’t drive Ferraris. Is what it is. Bill Wilson owns a small boutique company. He’s not selling Glock shit. It’s precision.

[@Titan500J]

2 smart guys. Great video thanks.

[@phillipray6490]

This comment has nothing to do with the vidio. I just want to thank Bill Wilson for bringing out his absolutely excellent front and rear sight options for the new Colt Python. Thank you sir so much!

[@bigchuck83918]

Would love to see a Wilson Combat Beretta APX optimized for carry use.

[@j.r.777]

I agree with some of the things said here but not all. I recognize that with some, there is no brand loyalty but with many, there still is. Even with many of the younger generation of folks. I personally, love almost all firearms but when it comes to my conceal and carry firearms, Glock is my first choice followed just slightly behind by my Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0’s. With Glock, those are the firearms that the department that I work for uses. The G22. I have trained with them for 13 years and they are insanely reliable and durable. Many of our range Glocks have in excess of over 50k rounds put through them and everything on them is still the original components from what they came with from the factory. I absolutely love them! I’ve trained with them in every element and weather and have exposed the entire weapon to water, snow, ice, sand, dirt, mud and have trained in weather that is below 0, and as hot as 120 degrees. My personal Glocks have never malfunctioned in training and the Glocks at work, I have only observed malfunction on only a handful of cases in my 13 years. But in ever malfunction, it could have been ammo related. With many folks now days, information is almost instant and at the fingertips. Many younger folks research stuff before buying. It’s not always about getting what is the least expensive, otherwise, every millennial, Gen X, Gen Y, and Gen Z, would only buy Hi Point and Taurus then but they aren’t. I do agree that MOS’s, and laser and/or light rail attachments are probably the future of most handguns. Same with them being polymer frame, center fired as well. I know that with me personally, I do prefer them as well, over DA/SA hammer fired handguns or even just SA handguns, as well as revolvers. Don’t get me wrong, I love those firearms too but the polymer framed, center fired modern style of handguns offers a lot more advantages over the other types of handguns.

[@iiamdtrainingacademy]

Amen Ken here you have it from a legend! If Jeff Cooper was still here today I'm sure you'd hear the same message. Thank you Bill for continuing to make the weapons I love and my wife loathes hahahaha. Ken thank you for your continue support and enlightenment to our great community.

[@charliet5607]

My older eyes acquire a red dot much quicker than sights and being able to focus at the target rather than on the front sight also contributes to accuracy as well as speed. Maybe I'm an anomaly but I'm very comfortable with a a red dot on my every day carry. I shoot regularly and my scores and higher and more consistent so I don't see a down side.

[@tompedersen6564]

What a difference a year makes

[@williamlaboyteaux4210]

I am listening to this November 10th 2020 thinking about what is happening with the election

[@jimsills4129]

Bill: When you are doing the intro and the close to your video it's obvious watching your eyes move back and forth that you are reading something. That usually indicates that your source material is too close. I would suggest moving your source material further away which will greatly reduce, or even eliminate, your eye movement.

[@halfdollar86]

Technically you was right on the 40 cal. Yes it did get really popular awhile back. But it has really declined.

[@TheSuburban15]

.40S&W is mostly kept alive by USPSA rules and almost-obscenly low prices on .40 police trade-in pistols

[@flipgunderson1946]

Everything in the 2A community comes & goes in cycles. 10MM just about died off & now it's becoming more popular again. 9mm is super hot right now but it won't last forever. Something else is bound to take the spotlight.

[@chevyon37s]

Connor Richardson the 5.7x28 FN is going to get hot for the next few years.

[@landnnut]

Bill, why didn't you use a link less barrel system on the EDC x9 line?

[@EchoSigma6]

An example of the counsel of wise men.

[@229glock]

Whoah...ken needs to get up to speed on red dots on pistols. I know he’s respected, but He’s not even remotely aware of what’s been going on for many years with RMRs and the use of red dots on handguns.

[@stompnucustoms2616]

yea i love mine on my G34. dying for one on a g19

[@mikestrunk3282]

Irons will always be faster than a dot....with good eyes. Frame mounted optic is different than a slide mounted optic also. Ken has forgot more than we know. At 5-10yds I'll count on irons every time and I run both.

[@d.wilson1402]

@@mikestrunk3282 I disagree, dots are faster than irons and more accurate at distance. Ken is way behind the times, dots are firmly here now..

[@flipgunderson1946]

Maybe instead of wasting money on a tacticool optic, you should put that money into ammo + practice with your irons. Maybe buy a first aid kit, more mags etc...you know, shit you actually need.

[@cd4playa1245]

Mike Strunk if you train with a dot then I feel you can get as fast, but I will say that if your gun is already out and you’re transitioning between targets then a red dot is undeniably faster; you can bounce that red dot up and down on your targets and catch the rhythm and flow. But red dots can fog up in cold environments and even the amazing RMR can have electronic issues like what happened to my buddy’s after only about 4K rounds. He didn’t abuse it either.

[@BamaChad-W4CHD]

We are steadily seeing these predictions come about. I especially like the thoughts on striker fired polymer firearms. That has to be by far the biggest selling handguns. It's 2020. Quality takes a back seat to cheap and disposable everything. Of course not all polymer guns are cheap or disposable. There are some incredible firearms made from polymer. Some of the best in the world are striker fired and polymer framed.

[@spudthompson1414]

When powder was made it started all the things that use powder to perject all kinds of pertect tiles.

[@MrSmith-zy2bp]

For safety on striker fired pistols, HK needs to bring back some variant of, polymer if need be, P7 with the sqeeze cocking safety.

[@democratpro]

He’s sooooo right! Ammo is basically free these days.

[@seanwhite304]

Didn't the US Military Approve the RMR Type 2 . Or was it SOCOM who adopted the RM06 TYPE 2

[@stunod1479]

sman7290 suboptimal choice

[@seanwhite304]

@ the M17 comes with Delta point foot print . The RMR Type 2 is better in every way shape and form . Hell the Holoson 508T is better than the delta point . Part of the US ARMY requirements were for the M17 to have Delta point foot print . SOCOM does 10x more extensive testing than the Army does. I've always found it weird they went with Glock and RMR and the US ARMY didn't . I really don't care who won the M17 contract . I just care than keeps our guys safe . As long as it goes bang when in a Jam that's all that matters

[@jamesfischer4813]

I love me 320's, but today.....still carrying BHP.

[@anthonylewis9256]

BHP???

[@javamanV3]

Hi all - enjoy your videos a lot. One thing, Ken, Most of New England is pro gun - it is only the southern states MA, RI and CT that are against the 2A. In NH we have Constitutional Carry.

[@hardtarget2359]

Kens right about most of it. Except for the striker fired gun industry. Its as safe as it gonna get! Plain and simple!!! Keep your booger hook off the bang switch and you have NOTHING to worry about. Also the 1911 will always be in style weather its the 1911 profile or 2011. And the 320 took a big hit last year because they realeased a gun they KNEW WAS DEFECTIVE!! Sig didn't fix it til their feet got held to the 🔥!!!

[@RandallD244]

I like Ken’s comment (approx 13:50 min mark) in which he says IF we don’t have any political turmoil , then ammunition prices will remain favorable to the consumer... Wow, “IF” is a big word.

[@thetrain5785]

My prediction is that mustache style, Will not catch fire 🔥

[@stunod1479]

These old white guys dont give AF what some metro thinks about their staches.

[@johnqpublic2718]

@@stunod1479 some metro child at that. Why would anyone give a fuck about another man's hairs unless they were a little light in the loafers?

[@fomocore]

December 2019. If the handgun isn't sold this Provisions for Optics. It's walk down memory lane.

[@Scruffy-LookingNerfHerder]

Holosun is already there!

[@tonybkillin]

"Millennial" here and I just bought my first kimber custom II.

[@mattschmitt9924]

9mm or 45? Those are nice guns. How's it treating you so far?

[@KinoTechUSA69]

Oof, friends don't let friends buy Kimber.

[@ATINKERER]

EPC was a tiny dot sight made specifically for handguns, and it came out maybe 40 years ago!!

[@GUNNYJones-zm5eo]

Mr. Heckathorn truthfully sir I agree with pretty much everything you said. I enlisted in the United States Marine Corps in 1982 and of course I was there when the Beretta M9 was adopted and replace the Beloved m-19 A1. My MOS I had a choice of retaining a 1911 or being issued an M9. Throughout my career I enjoyed having this option. Largely out of tradition I retained my 1911 during the course of my service. Now as you stated with the adoption of the Sig Sauer P320 AKA m17 and the M18. I personally I am still befuddled bye Sig Sauer winning the competition. Yes it was largely about money. As the old saying goes Money Talks bulshit walks. The part that is funny to me and all this is that Glock 19s have been in the United States inventory for close to 20 years and already had an established a foothold within our military. My former MOS recently adopted the Glock 19 Gen 3 to replace the colt m45a1. In light of the current atmosphere on the battlefield or down range as we like to term it it was a smart move. And one last thing when the military went to Optics for there combat rifles. To me personally it was the end of Marksmanship proficiency. Iron sights to this old war horse will always be superior to Optics.

[@PrayingPanda]

Nothing in this video was new info. If you're a company that didn't know this stuff, you're already in trouble.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

Ken puts it's in perspective. Not all "gun culture" types are on the same page. 😐.

[@john-paulsilke893]

He condensed it in one small video. If you are into shooting and think long and hard about it, he has said nothing we don’t all know. I’m guessing he has it 95% predicted which is pretty amazing.

[@hylianknight3]

"We'll see what happens" Even ken couldnt predict the millions of gun sales and ammunition demand skyrocketing past production that would take place just a few short months after this video

[@davidgolden1726]

Well, this is what happens when you have marxists & Rino's running the country now...people are scared.

[@QueOndaWhey]

Agreed. The mil spec Sig scks now. Like a new model American car or software. Wait a few years .

[@actionjksn]

To Ken's credit he did say the ammunition prices would be good if there wasn't some political turmoil. And let's face it there's plenty of political turmoil right now. I'm from the last of the baby boomers and I'm into the 80% stuff. Working on 1911 now, steel frame yikes.

[@Wolfstanus]

Brand loyalty? I want quality, not a fucking stamp. Colt is a prime example of buying a brand and not quality

[@dannertactical]

Quality red dots on handguns give the same benefits as on a carbine in my opinion. Draw takes some work but not bad if you shoot/train some. But I am still waiting for the ACRO with micro like battery life.

[@aussieexpat]

Don't wait. The tube design is inferior anyway, it's a step back about 30 years. The tube solves a problem that doesn't exist.

[@ScottAT]

You guys should look in to producing a separate line of 70 series M1911-A1 .45 and later 9mm Service Pistols with a price point less than 650. Use Armscor or SAM made slides and frames with American internals, like your factory plus parts; a basic G.I. Model with an ambidextrous safety and 3 white dot sights similar to the night-eyes you just phased out.

[@ScottAT]

Racespec that’s not true, I have taken 5 Rock Island GI models, and re built them into fine service grade pistols, however that’s something I did for fun as I have long retired. If Wilson were to take something like Brownells BRN-series frames, and matched them up to a generic slide you could do it with 100% all American made parts. Wilson already offers a complete line of G.I style “Factory Plus” parts. Basically building the equivelant of a Springfield Mil-Spec or Colt 1991. At a $650. Price point it would sell competitively against Colt, Springfield, Para Ordinance... it could be done, a Wilson Combat G.I. Service Grade. Use simple combat checkered wood grips, lanyard loop, etc.

[@Cpt-Night-ajg]

@Racespec there is no reason it couldn't be. That seems more like marketing talk that has been out out there to make you buy a higher priced gun. With modern machining there is no reason a serviceable gun cannot be made at that price point. It won't have Wilson tolerances but it sure good enough for duty or defense.

[@82lowe36id]

I predict that is whiskey in that WC glass. What kind is the question. Keep up the videos. Love them.

[@roykiefer7713]

Ken and Bill, MANY THANKS for this outstanding and very insightful video. I wonder if you’d answer a simple set of question regarding red dot sights for handguns. We all know the overwhelming majority of defensive handgun engagements occur at ten yards or less, often at approximately three yards. What’s the real advantage of a red dot under those circumstances? Furthermore, doesn’t reliance upon and acclimation to red dots create a potential vulnerability - the damn thing fails to work properly when the “chips are down” - that is far less probable with normal iron sights? I’m absolutely not anti-red dot, however (and I’m 73, with slowly deteriorating eyesight, and I’ve been shooting for over five decades) an accurate 30 foot shot is no marksmanship feat with traditional sights.

[@Snowy0123]

I can listen to people talk about guns for days..

[@jamesross1834]

45 acp has been around since 1905

[@geoffhawk2332]

Wow... lots of respect for Ken, but the red dot he described... needing 10000 rd cycle life, 3 year batt life, etc. already does exist... it's called rmr...

[@user936]

Ken is talking about one that is integrated into the slide in the same way irons are - no screw tightening required.

[@jaspernquartz]

I'm not an expert, but I believe these "grey area" guns (pistol with a brace, .410 pistols, shockwaves, straight rifling firearms) will cause firearm laws to change. Will the new laws be more permissive or more restrictive? That is the big question.

[@donhinkle3693]

110 years of service. Think about that. 🇺🇸🥃

[@AGC828]

Polymer guns sell as well as they do based Inn"good marketing"... Not because they're the better choice. They're"compromised'... With a huge aftermarket making parts they can swap in for"better shootability.. When they face is they will never approach the shootability of a stock 1911.. Production guns even... No matter how much money is spent. If you could only have one Paul..1911

[@pnickerson]

The future??? Darkness.....nothingness.....silence.

[@chrisnewport7826]

Re 2A, there is no debate, The Constitution says shall not be infringed. Period

[@bill154cub]

Ken, you weren’t all wrong about the glock I don’t own any plastic pistols. There seems to be the 40cal has run its course. Many used ones for sale lately. You weren’t far off.

[@Wes5613]

I certainly respect Ken's opinion and think he really is a great part of the gun community and partially responsible for carrying on Cooper's torch of practical shooting and firearms training, but I disagree with him regarding red dots on self-defense handguns. For one, there already exist red dots (particularly the Trijicon RMR Type 2) that have long battery life, good durability, and maintain zero. Secondly, he did not mention the main benefit of said systems which is that it allows the shooter to maintain focus on target rather than the front sight. This is very beneficial as first of all it is natural instinct to focus on a threat in a dangerous situation and secondly it allows you to be more situationally aware of what your threat is doing. How many times do you hear law enforcement or civilians in defensive shootings say they didn't see their sights? Red dots could very well help that, in fact there was a study conducted from a training facility that did a lot of force on force training with sims and compiled the data on percentage of hits and critical hits with RMR equipped pistols vs ones with traditional irons. Let's just say there was a significant statistical advantage with the RMRs. Shooting moving targets? Forget it, red dots make it simple. None of this to say that you shouldn't run backup irons though, regardless if the dot is on a rifle or pistol. For a good summation of pros/cons of pistol mounted RDS one of the best videos is from John Lovell. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKW3ZZeaaJ5lras

[@orion7873]

I want a red dot optic on a handgun that is crystal clear like my ACOG rifle scope ... all red dots for pistols look blurry to me.

[@sqwk2559]

That’s irrelevant. You’re supposed to open both eyes when aiming.

[@ironmikehallowween]

Why is the RMR better than lasers. I don’t even need to have pistol near my face to land the shot, and it is immediately visible for all practical self defense distances.

[@robertsnyder6108]

With all respect Ken, the 9MM was invented in 1902 the 45 ACP was invented in 1904, i personally like the 45 alot more. The problem is the public follows the military, 9mm is so much less expensive than 45, training has become a very expensive proposition. When i first started shooting 45 was 5.00 a box of 50. On the other side of this is , i would take a 45 into battle before any 9MM. Thank you for your video!!

[@montanamountainmen6104]

My sons are Life Members of the NRA. Thing that gets me as a gun guy is the NRA caves too much on somethings when they should be on the offense and never give a inch.

[@michaelhilliary4916]

Great-thoughtful videos guys. One thing that I think you are going to have to prepare for is the shifting left when it comes to gun rights. I am in the middle politically, but I am noticing a lot of my left friends expanding their minds about gun ownership. Right now we are seeing the difference in how people that are presumed to be defenseless are treated vs. how people that are presumed to be ready to defend are treated. Additionally, we are all aware of how divided the country is right now. That historic spike in gun sales is the left finally using their rights.. and it's good for all. They should be embraced.. Gun culture has pushed the idea that an armed society is a safe society... The left is at the table...

[@tonyrogo227]

Tried the Sig 320 and had nothing but problems . I was very unimpressed .

[@markcurry3083]

Try again mine is great. Never had a single failure ever

[@tonyrogo227]

@@markcurry3083 I tried a sig 365 xl brand new about 6 months after that post Mark and had problems with striker drag on my primers and 2 FTEs. I was done with sign after that honestly. I traded the gun in for a Glock 26 and had zero problems since. I like Sigs 226 and 2022. I would try and buy one of those but soured on Sigs newest platforms.

[@daviddanielson3522]

So Ken mentioned a problem with striker pistols if they are dropped. Is that an issue with Smith and Wesson Sigma's. And if so, what is the issue? Thanks.

[@howardfriedly3235]

David Danielson There is no problem with dropping a Sigma. Just drop it in the nearest trash can.

[@denniswolff7300]

KEN IS OLD WHITE GUY REPUBLIKKKAN .... DEMOCRATS WON THE POPULAR VOTE BY 3 MILLION .... IT WAS ELITIST 270 WEALTHY PEOPLE SUBVERTING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE BY USING THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE TO CHOOSE A DRAFT DODGING PEDOPHILE RUSSIAN DEEP STATE AGENT PICKED BY PUTIN

[@phonedude58]

Any updates?