WHERE IS Timmothy Pitzen? Vanished Without A Trace

[@KendallRae]

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[@sincereangels9558]

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[@averywhite988]

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[@kennedykitkat5779]

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[@ashleyrussell5699]

As much as I don’t want to believe it...I think she killed him and then killed herself. I’ve seen multiple videos on this case. I don’t think she wanted his father nor her family to think she could be so heinous. So she concocted a plan so that people would have pity on her, but at the same time still be searching for Timothy.

[@staryellos]

2:43 don't know what that is, if its an editing mistake or just some error, great video as always

[@121265841]

she killed him. she took him out to have fun because she knew it was his last day, her outfit is missing because it had blood stains. she probably in her state of mind thought that they would be together in the afterlife, she didn't tell anyone he's dead because she didn't want them to suffer/she didn't want them to think she is a monster

[@rae9766]

Alex 72 this is a very good idea

[@cammey3]

Naa, most mothers die with with their children, he would have been with her.

[@BlueSkyyNoise]

She prob took him to have fun those last few days because it was going to be his last time having fun because he gave him to someone that would keep him in hiding, or because she knew it was his last few days with her and she wanted him to have good memories of her before she gave him to someone and killed herself. I think he is alive.

[@UrbanDecayLova247]

Idk why buy him clothes and toys?...why bother even writing the letters saying that he’s safe and no one will ever find him?...it just seems like a lot of work to be doing if she just murdered him....as for the fun days, she could’ve known she was going to commit suicide so that could’ve been her more so giving timmothy fun days with his Mom one last time, not because he was going to die but because she knew she was. Idk it just seems like she did a lot of extra shit for no reason if she ended up killing him...and she already knew her family was going to be mad, I mean I’d argue it’s better to at least know someone is dead so you can have closure, doing what she did even if he’s alive is more cruel in my opinion. On a 20/20 I watched her mom even said that she was angry at her daughter because if gave timmothy to people she thought would keep him safe, why would it be with people none of her family even knows.

[@amandaified6195]

She even said he was her property... I think that your right.

[@desilu222]

She killed him and told the dad he’s alive to torture the father for the rest of his life.

[@leanneowens9408]

That’s exactly what I think. Cruel 😞

[@doctorajaguar]

Yep, I agree.

[@xiomararamos7209]

That’s pretty sick.

[@fartripper7598]

I’m not completely opposing this idea, but what would be her motive to kill him?

[@StewyAdamRules]

@@fartripper7598 She was upset about the prospect of losing her son and decided she would kill him to keep anyone else from being able to have him.

[@bnlatin23]

The mother did some selfish things . I dont think the kid is alive and she thought he was her property and if she couldn't keep him she didn't want no one else to have him .

[@88GmG]

Same I think he is dead. If not, why wouldn't keep the son in his own loving family.... I can't picture an unstable person with depression having the time to connect with a good ramdom family for her son to be adopted.

[@magdalenagallegos6270]

I totally agree. I was surprised to hear Kendal say she thought other wise. My gut says she killed him.

[@nishants2691]

Yeah i think so too

[@_rose_6375]

@@magdalenagallegos6270 I guess we're just trying to stay hopefull for the father.. maybe the mother wanted Timmothy to grow up in a loving family? Maybe so he wouldn't grow up to be like her (?) Idk I feel like the mom was selfish and caused a lot of suffering, but perhaps she actually thought she was giving him a better life

[@destinyshriver1031]

I agree. If the police haven’t searched the field she was at, they should. This is so sad!

[@t0nnuu]

Honestly.... ashton kutcher needs to notice Kendall... this woman has been doing this FOREVER... COME ON!!! THANK HER AT LEAST

[@linziRyan1965]

Agreed

[@---nobody---]

Seriously! I had heard of Thorn before I heard Kendall mention it so it was so awesome to hear her talk about it. She’s brining soo much attention to it and I love it! She does deserve to be recognized. I think I’m going to write a letter to them and ask for them to recognize her efforts.

[@xxxxxxxxx1652]

exactly, a tweet mentioning her is the least he could do tbh, it would bring more awareness to Thorn, to her channel and to a lot of cases like these

[@NoThisusernameisnottaken]

She's not doing it for the recognition, if she isn't bothered by it why make it a big deal? She's doing it out of the kindness of her own heart because she has integrity.

[@---nobody---]

:P I don’t think anyone said or believes she is doing it for recognition. We’re saying she should be recognized BECAUSE she is doing it out of the goodness of her heart. She should be recognized BECAUSE she is doing a selfless thing and bringing attention to a serious topic and we’re just saying it would be awesome if Thorn and it’s creators knew about her efforts and acknowledged them. (:

[@cozyinmycorner]

When she said " Timothy belongs to me." I kinda feel like she killed him because she didn't want anyone else to have him. Idk, just my theory

[@stephaniezambrano6259]

browngirlTrying · IKR it’s so weird but even weirder that she killed herself after

[@lizzdoe2821]

browngirlTrying · Then she got ride of all his stuff because it reminded her of what she did...???

[@rosierose8549]

But if she did & left his body somewhere wouldn't she want to be with him?

[@Crocs4cats]

Yes. That’s what I think. I’d guess she took him to all his favourite places to ‘spoil’ him because she knew she was going to end their lives.

[@Sara-iy3oz]

She most likely killed him and threw him to ocean or burned everything including her personal stuff

[@Jen-dm7tl]

She definitely killed him. She gave him the best day of his life knowing it was his last. She said to her brother in law that he was hers. If she couldn’t have him then no one could. She killed him out in the middle of nowhere and then later took her own so she could be with him

[@aleigh6998]

That is what I think too. She took him out for a fun day and bought him toys she could bury with him so he wouldn't be lonely.

[@hollieelvey1180]

Totally agree!

[@ashleysalande5626]

Yes agree. I usually agree with Kendall but this one seems like a classic murder suicide to me. She wanted to torture the dad even more by not even letting him have the body because he was “hers.”

[@baileesclubhouse2328]

This is what I believe happened too.. so sad.

[@oz9027]

I was thinking that too she might have thought “if I can’t have him (timothy) nobody can have him

[@Rebeca-in2lc]

She gave her clothes to somebody??....nah doesn't make sense. It'd make more sense that she got rid of them coz they were covered in evidence.

[@JessBee324]

My thoughts exactly ! So shady. Doesn't give me a good gut feeling... Idk

[@heathermichele2038]

She could have killed him so nobody could have him and then killed herself.

[@lelebubu247]

This is what I believe happened

[@bambi7563]

Heather Michele yes you're right she coulda killed him and the field they think she went in as a meeting/dropoff point was actually a dumping/burial place for Timothy. It is a weird coincidence that his blood happened to be in the car so I'm sure it's no coincidence and that she really did kill him and probably just ditched the weapon and then used a different weapon to kill herself and that's why her suicide weapon only had her blood on it

[@heathermichele2038]

@@bambi7563 EXACTLY WHAT U SAID

[@Julia-yj9qk]

I absolute despise parents who use their kids to manipulate each other. That’s beyond pathetic

[@alicetheneko7529]

Then you’d hate my mother.

[@TheNinnyfee]

Happens way too often.

[@allie54774]

Me too! I've watched my sister & her ex (mostly him I recent years) do this with their daughters and its devastating. The affect on their mental health is terrible :(

[@bee3980]

timmothy is my second cousin (james’s sister jen married into my family) and it broke our family. there was was more underlying things that happened beforehand, but nothing could be used as an excuse for what happened. i’m sorry if any of my family finds this video and sees my comment. but my mom and i have always had very strong feelings that she killed him. too many things happened, like the blood in amy’s car that was from a nose bleed (mmm idk about that one chief) but was a lot of dried blood. the mud on her car, that was from her backing into somewhere. amy commuting suicide, with the note saying “you’ll never find him”. all the voicemails that were left, the calls she made. nothing added up. this is still horrifying, because amy was the only way we would have gotten answers.

[@nunniestadler2526]

It's awful that you and your family have gone through/are going through this pain. Sorry if this comment just sounds really cheezy! Your comment just really stood out to me and I just wanted to say something. Praying for answers and peace for all of you ❤️

[@user-it8tb6el1k]

i hope your family finds peace. timmothy seemed like a lovely boy.

[@poppyseed5270]

Her husband should have never threatened to take her child away from her. None of this would have happened...

[@graysonbateman7280]

Poppy Seed Do you think that justifies her actions or something? A lot of people say shitty things out of anger or resentment. This comment was extremely out of pocket considering this was their FAMILY.

[@bee3980]

Grayson Bateman thank you love! i have people tell me bs all the time. no one knows the full story except my family. thank you for sticking up for me, angel💛

[@kaysiesmith8651]

"I wanted someone to love me like Timmothies dad loves him...if i went missing my dad would just keep drinking" as much as I don't condone what he did, I have a degree of sympathy for him ☹ that's heart breaking

[@mbmbkb3]

I cried a little. That's so so sad

[@kaysiesmith8651]

@@mbmbkb3 I know, can you imagine feeling that lonely and insecure that you go to those drastic measures 😭

[@UrbanDecayLova247]

I don’t condone what he did, but I agree with Kendall that this helped recharge the case again. I heard about this at least over a year or so ago on a 20/20, but now because of this imposter there are more people aware of timmothy and his case which I think is a positive way to look at it.

[@heathernikki5734]

Uhhhhh NO , no sympathy here. He's a selfish manipulator.

[@chelseamelissa6615]

The only thing that is suspicious is the fact that he's 23, and he's known to be a scammer. He probably said that to get sympathy

[@zozalolx2304]

The ending where she puts the persons pictures and that song kills me every time

[@alexisoaxaca1430]

Same

[@alexisoaxaca1430]

My eyes start to water

[@HighRollerYT]

Zoza Lolx For me its like getting a punch straight in the stomach, lol. As much as i love the song and stuff, its too much for me to handle 😆

[@minkedup7730]

I always skip that

[@lenise1976]

I want to rip my hair out listening to 911 dispatcher calls. How come 9 times out of ten they sound like a random person who just happen to pick up the most important line in our nation, and either can't be bothered, or are super rude, or confused, or all three. 🤯

[@laurynwaddell2068]

I know that’s right!

[@DavidPigbody]

Underpaid

[@ljade6427]

Yeh they get snotty and annoyed

[@ariscaprice7766]

I saw 2 dogs hanging around a large black bag and inside the intestines/ organs. I immediately called 911 and described exactly what I just said and before I could tell her the address she hung up on me. They did not call back. I told the resort staff and then left.

[@nhmooytis7058]

Most are dumb as a box of rocks and waste valuable time.

[@MonicaIvette]

That 911 call was so frustrating to listen to lol

[@arienfrye8298]

Monica Ivette it sounds like a call from a dispatcher of one county to a dispatcher of another jurisdiction after they got the initial 911 call, not the lady who found the kid. That kindve attitude is pretty common in the world of dispatch

[@emilynava]

The dispatcher annoyed me sooo much

[@Lil_boy12]

They mostly always are, being on the phone to somone in crisis and they mostly always react fed up cant be botherd or angry it frustrates me so much

[@riordanparata5243]

It sounds like a dispatcher talking to another dispatcher considering the words she uses are what I would think dispatcher words if that makes any sense

[@vickypinedo1387]

Wym “lol” ??

[@Jvanna56]

My coworker's friend dated Tim's father in recent years. She had nothing to say about him other than he would go out at night and look for his son. I live an hour from Sterling, and honestly... I don't think he's alive. Regardless from what my coworker has heard, his father is a pretty decent man. This break ruined him.

[@aidenbrooke6176]

savannaxoxo That’s so tragic! 💔 I hope he is and is reunited!

[@cuppycakey5013]

It’s so sad that the mom didn’t just leave him with his dad. She killed herself and is the only person who knew what happened with him.

[@vioIetee]

heartbreaking....

[@SeaShellsSeaShells89]

This just makes me so sad...💔

[@poppyseed5270]

I hate to say this but he brought it on himself. He should NEVER have threatened to take her child away from her... None of this would have happened then

[@MaryGraceRu]

how could police and FBI not see the difference between the 14 yo and 23 yo.... 9 years apart literally....

[@Renee1xd]

Exacly what i was thinking

[@riordanparata5243]

I’m 22 and people think I’m 16, I still have to show my ID at R rated movies and people ask me what high school I go to, I’m studying to be a vet nurse.

[@chellychels4356]

When I was 17, a waitress gave me a kid’s menu thinking I was 12. It’s actually pretty common. Also, my fiancé is an adult, but if he shaves his beard, he looks 12.

[@SeptemberWits]

I’m 21 and recently a hotel employee asked if I was over 14 because I needed adult supervision in the lounge room...

[@XxAshxX140]

Have you ever heard of baby faces

[@destinyrios3234]

How tf did people think a 23 year old man was a 14 year old boy???

[@lifeonthesweeterside]

It happens a lot more than you’d think, it’s crazy

[@luiszomarriba7749]

Watch the documentary the chameleon, you’ll be surprised

[@bagginshield8251]

Destiny Rios I’m 20 and people think I’m 12 or a young, young teenager. It can happen

[@janetjongebloed5853]

Runaways are super skinny.

[@Oliviagarry69420]

Destiny Rios let me show you Tom Holland

[@jgirl345]

How about she drove out to a field to bury him, all his stuff and all her stuff

[@laurahardaker9056]

jgirl 34 would of been found in searches with dogs etc for sure

[@jelissasmith6971]

Laura Hardaker Did they even search the area?

[@autumnssssss]

Laura Hardaker but they didn’t know where she went so they couldn’t search anywhere

[@sydneybaker8618]

That's what I think she did too.

[@Jakilyn]

That is the most likely scenario

[@jh3142]

I believe she killed him. The missing clothes, the fact that she had been in a remote location.... I honestly would be really surprised if he was alive. If she said "he belongs to me," why would she give him to someone else?

[@ErinJeanette]

And her phone being found with nothing being recovered means not that she deleted things, but more likely she had no contact with anyone... Because she didn't give him to anyone :/

[@Lady_Crispr]

Dear little Tim, wherever you are, I hope you are happy. I hope you feel no pain. Even if you are gone, I hope both of those things are still true. My heart is sad that another sweet little is gone. I have a feeling your mom did something to you, and that breaks my heart even more. Little Timothy, you deserve better. I am sure you'll never see this, but my heart, and the hearts of thousands are with you.

[@lilyz29]

Amen

[@rileysmallwood6480]

yes,amen.

[@erikaasthenia7501]

Bless up. Beautifully said.

[@sam674]

Amen

[@leleslayss7021]

Amen

[@jajadore7097]

I honestly think the mother hurt him and hid his body. I watch murder/crime cases everyday but found this one particularly sad.

[@jajadore7097]

Check out my crime vids ! I will be posting more very soon!

[@Shesaphantomm]

I know she kept saying she doesn't think she hurt him because she loved him so much but she's done enough true crime cases to realize that love is the driving motivaion for a lot of murder cases. "I'll love you to death" is a saying for a reason. She was scared that she couldn't have him so no one could. If she didn't even want him with his family because he "belonged" to her, it makes no sense to me that she would give him away to anyone else. She just hid the evidence somewhere the police hasn't been able to search yet.

[@thaydebortolli]

I agree.. The body is probably hidden, I mean, she desapeared for three hours and was probably at a place with nothing around, no one knows where, three hours is a lot of time for you to kill a kid (that trustes you) that won't try and fight you (at least not right away). That's sad, but I also believe that!

[@kaleyjoplinRAWRR]

I agree, I think it’s because this case is so interesting as well..and weird. There’s so many odd things with this case that it just kind of sticks with you. Poor Timmothy. I want to think he’s okay and alive somewhere but I have a feeling he was killed at the hands of his mother :(

[@MelaninMePodcast]

Just don't get why she would do that. Especially if she killed herself

[@danisolway2917]

Honestly, I think the most simple answer is the real one here! I think she killed him because she knew she wanted to kill herself. She didn’t want to leave him behind. She planned a “last outing” together at the zoo, park etc and then killed him before she killed herself. That’s why there’s dirt etc under her bumper, because she buried him somewhere rural. Then knowing he was gone, she would have had an even stronger reason to kill herself and less likely to “back out”. Super sad! :(

[@nyleved3358]

I hope I’m wrong but I think the mom might have killed him and made it seem like she gave him away. In the state of mind she was in, she might have thought they’d be together better off in heaven.

[@yukshunlong9456]

Nyleve :D but she’s going to hell so yea she won’t be reunited with him if tim died

[@courtneymichelle5746]

Nyleve :D if “timothy belonged to her”, she definitely didn’t give him away

[@ericmorang3903]

Too bad she's going straight to Hell! Oops!

[@doppelsotria4620]

@@ericmorang3903 Why?

[@ericmorang3903]

@@doppelsotria4620 Uh, she murdered her son!

[@sarah-oz7le]

i mean think about it. she took him out to a waterpark and zoo the day before, theres blood stains in her car, indications that she was in a grassy area in the middle of nowhere, none of her or the kids things are located, etc. SHE KILLED HER CHILD AND BURIED THE EVIDENCE AND THEN COMMITTED SUICIDE. it makes sense

[@kalayamariie5781]

tornveins not always cause the day before maybe she wanted him to have a good last time with her before sending him off to another family

[@Glowingfieldsphotography]

KalayaMariie or just to have a good time with him one last time before she took their lives.

[@sarah-oz7le]

Michelle exactly!

[@sofiarupil7746]

​@@sarah-oz7le Experts says a Mother who kills their children always do it immediately before the mother kills herself so they can "pass" together to the otherside. This is not the case

[@Peanut_taco_muffin]

sofia rupil who said that?? That’s not always the case at all.

[@jessicalema3866]

When she brought milk, I thought of her poisoning her son and putting him to “sleep” or just putting him in a unconscious state. I know this is a small detail of her just buying milk but, it could be something more. I strongly believe she killed him but, I hold hope he is somewhere out there safe.

[@JustPeachie22]

I wondered about the milk as well

[@Disizdawaay]

exactly why would she randomly buy milk? so odd.....you are right

[@zombiechicken7114]

That's a likely thought. It seemed odd to buy milk randomly when you are planning on ending things.

[@TheLifeofKiara]

Doesn’t make sense . She was scared that the dad would get full custody but she gave him away to someone else and killed herself? Nah. Doesn’t make any sense ...

[@ivonbarrios2960]

He’s dead, she didnt actually give him away... she murdered her own son

[@Femmebutstillathem]

Well if the dad was abusive it would make sense

[@CosyClinician]

My mom wanted to do that with me, but my dad found out before she could do it. Things happen

[@messywebdev]

@@CosyClinician your mom wanted to give you away then take her own life?

[@elahnnabennett7526]

She killed him, then killed herself so they can be together in heaven

[@KoolioPicklez2000]

uhhhh i’m confused that dude doesn’t look 14 AT ALL and doesn’t look like timothy either ??? why did they even believe him in the first place

[@kaeleenmichelle]

Sarah Ilbek RIGHT?

[@KoolioPicklez2000]

See Kae Style like how are more people not seeing this lol

[@dont_step_on_the_momeraths]

Sarah Ilbek True, but when your child is missing I would imagine you’re desperate and hopeful enough to have the dna tested. Can you imagine the outrage if they didn’t test his dna??! Come on.

[@slaveNo-4028]

ikr? like timothy has a very distinct nose just like his dad and is almost blonde.. and like you said the convict dude looks nothing like him, more like a slimey 24y/o robber from Romania or somehting..

[@mancmcr8172]

The police would have to check everything just in case I suppose no matter how farfetched.

[@CosyClinician]

This almost happened to me. My mom was incredibly mentally ill and would hallucinate abuse from my dad that never happened. She was going to steal me away in the middle of the night and run away to another state 11hours away just so my dad wouldn't see me ever again. The only difference is that my mom let it slip to my older sister before she did it, so my sister told my dad and we ended up under 24/7 police watch until she was found. This story gives me chills with how close I was to being like this kid

[@amanmuhammad14]

Thank god you’re okay

[@blousemouse]

Just made donations. $5 a month. Not much but as a full time uni student living out of home; it’s a start I suppose. Thank you for your promotions of the cause ♥️♥️

[@dftonz]

Milz Beaton that’s amazing!! :D I want to do that too but, I am only 13 so, I want to buy one of the shirts! 💕

[@xxxxxxxxx1652]

Its amazing!!!

[@abigailgass7639]

that’s wonderful! college is so difficult financially so good for you 😊

[@liveandlearn1624]

I remember this case. I believe that she killed him then killed her self. She was depressed but didn’t want the husband to have him. She took him out for some fun then killed him. The only thing is if he’s alive, he’s not a baby so he’s gonna see what’s happening and remember so when he gets older maybe he’ll come forward if he’s alive but I don’t believe so.

[@debadev2179]

He was young so he might have forgotten especially if he has been through a lot

[@patelvidhi]

I do believe that his mom killed him maybe in the beginning i mean when she pick him up in the morning that day she didn't have a plan to kill Timothy might be she planned foe suicide that's why she bought toys and clothes for Timothy but when she was spending time with Timothy she start getting angry on Timothy's father she might be started thinking how she can hurt him badly then she got this thought on that time to kill Timothy and give his father a life time pain but after her action she started feeling guilty so she wrote sorry later and said that Tymothy is in good hand..

[@ErinJeanette]

@@patelvidhi I agree with you, I think she maybe made an impulsive decision to take him from school and then didn't know what to do after that cuz she didn't want to go home, then she tried to make it a fun vacation but then changed her mind. I really hope he's alive, but I don't think he is. Rockford is not a good place my sisters live there and I'm like forty minutes away.

[@Kellyharvey82]

She killed him, as soon as i heard all the fun they had on his last day i just knew. I believe she killed him, drove to a field, buried him and his new clothes and toys and his little back pack. She went to great lengths to hide her own belongings so why wouldn't she do the same for Timothy.

[@20maxilo]

I totally agree with this too. Only thing that makes sense

[@haleigh199]

Kendall please look into Savannah Spurlock and the Brooklyn Farthing cases. There’s something going on in central/eastern KY. 17 girls that weigh under 140 pounds and with blonde hair have just vanished. Police have not seen a “connection” it’s real and it needs attention.

[@maddi66515]

Haleighhh SEVENTEEN girls ALL with a similar physical appearance?!? And the police don’t see a connection!?! That’s seriously fucked up!

[@alenasmith5169]

Yes!! Where is Savannah Spurlock?!! And why haven’t they further questioned the three men she left the bar with? They were the last people to see her so where the heck did she go!

[@4evaefay]

That’s scary. It sounds like human trafficking or a serial killer.

[@funwithmaggie4353]

I live in Kentucky and this is seriously terrifying to me!

[@haleigh199]

Alena Smith I went to high school with one of those guys! I live in Garrard!!

[@missgreenieweenies]

Thank you for spreading awareness about all these missing children. Also your makeup in this video is so pretty

[@cyberspelunker1980]

She killed him, buried him out in the middle of nowhere, gave him a “fun” last few days.

[@anacruz7003]

Please do a video on the 43 missing students in Mexico

[@anacaeiro1049]

WhAAT

[@Cewdipie]

She has a podcast discussing it with josh if u would like to see it

[@JustKiwiJess]

@@Cewdipie what podcast episode is that on

[@sunleo6161]

Badussey No she doesn’t.

[@jacquelynduarte309]

Yessss!!!

[@lelebubu247]

This recent incident happened in my city. The “boy” who said he was Timothy was just a 23yr old man. Disgusting. He should be in jail for pulling such a horrible stunt

[@munkayttaja6913]

Not imo he had a good reason to do it I guess.. atleast if it was true, I would give him few years of probation

[@pianogal879]

I can't imagine what the family went through with the hope it gave them and then it being snatched away like that 💔

[@kaidencarney04]

With the mom being found dead I would guess she killed her baby and the “people” he was with were “Angels”. All of this seems like a last weekend alive type thing.

[@kaidencarney04]

Like she never meant to hurt him, just wanted to be with him forever in Heaven

[@caffeinatedkatie4696]

This is what I believe as sad as it is

[@melbell3003]

Idk I feel like she might’ve killed him just so that her husband couldn’t have him and left the note to make it look like she didn’t kill him...they probably couldn’t find her clothes because she got rid of them bc they have blood or something. She could’ve drove out in the middle of nowhere to bury him and all his things...and she could’ve taken him to the water park because she wanted him to enjoy his last days. She might have thought they could be together in the afterlife. Not sure...but I hope they are able to solve this case soon!

[@LauraLaura-mv4xh]

I think so, she killed her own son out of spite and only left the note to not get him any sort of closure. it's super messed up bc imo that would be the ultimate torture to him

[@melbell3003]

Exactly!

[@Xforeverlove21]

she could have gotten him all those toys so he can enjoy his last day and the milk she bought, maybe she poisoned a glass of milk & gave it to him.

[@KarensKidd]

Can you do a video on Amber Hagerman? I think it would be so cool because her disappearance created the term, “Amber Alert” and stuff like that is so fascinating to me.

[@nativejediprincess2133]

Yes I am from Arlington TX would love it

[@Peanut_taco_muffin]

Her cases incited the actual Amber Alert, not the term.

[@EAST94THCHiK18]

I agree

[@melanieburman4794]

I would really like that Kendall. I was in Arlington at that time and I have friends in Arlington PD.

[@tristenchunise8030]

For some reason, the age progression photos really got to me. I almost cried.

[@jessicaxmadison]

Tristen Chunise there’s something very bone chilling about those pictures.. maybe the fact that that person most likely doesn’t even exist but you’re looking at a very realistic picture of their face.

[@camboo3431]

KENDALL you should talk about Ryan Jenkins. He murdered his ex wife and stuffed her body into a suitcase then fled to Canada. He was on multiple reality vh1 shows and almost won a dating show. Please do a video on him!!

[@ninahopkins326]

Amber loves mystery covered this case!

[@rosalynnllanas9244]

i sent her a request for this hopefully she sees!!

[@wh0r3chatas]

Oh my God I remember that! Absolutely batshit crazy.

[@salmonjanet]

Megan Wants a Millionaire

[@shaycoture5772]

i have listened to this case so many time but seeing the family photo at the beginning really hit me. such an unfortunate case, I wish for only the best for the father and one day to be reunited with his son. all love and sending prayers!

[@veronicapomposo1831]

She wouldn’t have just given him away either. She said he belonged to her and if she wouldn’t let the father have him why would she allow anyone else to have him? I honestly don’t believe she gave him away. No way, not a selfish woman like that.

[@jessicavangenderen6540]

Thank you! I feel like they are really making this woman seem so much nicer than she was. She had a history of mental instability, she cheated on her husband, and then she took and either killed her child (I think she did), or gave him to complete strangers and killed herself so his father will never have closure or know what happened to him. She chose to torture that man for the rest of his life. It's a classic family annihilator scenario. Typically the dads kill their families/children and then themselves. I believe she did the same with the intention of terrorising her husband.

[@DamnItDylan]

I live in Rockford. When that hoax broke the news it was being discussed everywhere here. This is so sad.

[@gabriellcy712]

Kendall another missing person- imposter story that I would want you to cover is thr case of Nicholas Barclay,who disappeared in 1994 in Texas..And then years later similar thing happened ..A 23 years old man imposted him and even joined the family.Very creppy story

[@parrisoverby]

CYin Lam LOVE your picture!

[@gabriellcy712]

@@parrisoverby haha thx but it wasnt me it was an actor in UK😉😎

[@carlosbritton6035]

She already covered his case

[@parrisoverby]

CYin Lam I know it’s an actor! I met him last summer he is an amazing guy!

[@gabriellcy712]

@@parrisoverby Wow good for you girl that must an unforgettable experience ！👍

[@sofiarupil7746]

I hope this can help, In Reddit someone said that Amy was in a cult-like religion called Endeavor Academy with the headquartered in Wisconsin Dells, I think this is why she went to Wisconsin Dells , to contact someone from the cult who help her to hide Timmothy. Then she went south near Sterling, Illinois, where the last communication of her cell phone was tracked (route 40) and Timothy was still with her, and where her cell phone was founded (Route 78). I think someone of that cult has Timmothy. Please investigate the members of that area (Sterling, Illinois) who belong to that cult. I bet Timmothy is with them.

[@anonymousno9371]

I have been subtly trying to find out if Amy was actually involved with Endeavor Academy/A Course In Miracles/etc. I've heard those rumors. But has that been confirmed? If so, the trip to Kalahari and the date of her suicide make a whole lot of sense. Also very possible someone connected to that could have helped with this by taking him in. Does anyone know if there is any truth to those rumors? If so, the odds of Timmothy being alive are dramatically increased.

[@skylerydntk]

You should tell the police this

[@09ashkrebs]

Wisconsin Dells?! I went to high school there and never knew about this cult 😱

[@moxieblutinkershop]

Have you reported this?

[@petty.crocker]

I hate to be judgmental, but just seeing the mom for the first time immediately gave me an odd gut feeling. 😩

[@Alana8480]

I got the same feeling!

[@abihitchenor5450]

Same!

[@aidenbrooke6176]

Same!

[@sbirdhouse]

Ridiculous. Just because you had a bad feeling about someone you saw a few photos of, based on a video that makes you feel bad, does not mean anything. confirmation bias is real.

[@bee3980]

she had mental health problems for years, but amy was always the sweetest. i only met her once but she was super nice.

[@DustGrey]

I just don’t understand how there’s no trail through her phone or computer, I mean she had to have contacted whoever she gave him to.

[@themanintheattic]

The “people” she gave him to are the angels

[@jessicavangenderen6540]

@@themanintheattic I agree.

[@laurynwaddell2068]

The next time someone asks me a question at work I’m gonna say “just google it, it will pop Right up”

[@Matthew-jh6oh]

Thank you for doing my recommendation! **my theory** I think the mom took him on the vacation, then she killed him because she knew that there was a chance that he could’ve been taken away from her. I think she took him on the vacation to give him good days in his few last days. She then took his body to a remote area, which is where she left the body. This would explain the grass and mud on the car. She then proceeded to kill herself because she knew she couldn’t live without him.

[@lindseystraley9596]

I agree with you but I think she didn't plan on killing him. I think she bought all of the things for him so they could start a new life and she took him to all those places so he wouldn't think about his dad or miss him. Then she realized she would never get away with it and she killed him. She killed herself so they could be "reunited."

[@nikkiej.5875]

I've heard of this case before. I was happy when the news said Timmothy Pitzen was alive and found. Although when it turned out it wasn't true and a hoax, I got so mad. He gave his family false hope. For some reason, I had a hunch he wasn't Timmothy. I don't think Timmothy would be that old. He might be like fifteen or sixteen at the most. This is the same thing that happened in the Nicholas Barclay case. A man claimed he was him but his family realized it wasn't him after asking many questions. I understand why he claimed he was Timmothy because of his father's love but he knows his son and would know right away this man is too old and not his son. I too believe he's still out there and alive, and his mother had an illegal adoption to prevent the father from getting full custody. I hope to God he will be found one day and it's really him, not someone else claiming they're him, and to be returned to his loving family who miss him so much.

[@oliviahb330]

Timothy today would be 14 turning 15 in little more than 2 months older than him

[@cammey3]

Lmao he would not be 16 🤣🤣 he would be 14.

[@bcamacho7513]

The story that you just recounted regarding the Nicholas Barclay case, is SOOOO INCORRECT! You can't just go around spreading false information like that. Nicholas's family 100% KNEW that grown-A$$ man was ABSOLUTELY NOT Nicholas, and they knew this because they killed Nicholas!!

[@gabriellcy712]

@@bcamacho7513 I would agree Nicholas's family may have involved in his disapperance(that the mother or brother or both of them murdered him)

[@nikkiej.5875]

@@bcamacho7513 I got the information from when I watched Kendall’s video. And that’s exactly what happened. There was someone who claimed he was Nicholas.

[@EvilQween3488]

I hope that he’s with the Amish community in Illinois 🤞🏽🤞🏽 hopefully he’s safe, well and most importantly ALIVE

[@elleahh9730]

I thought about that too. Since the Amish live in the middle of no where

[@perlamorales8236]

I remember when this happened. The elementary school he went to is only about 10 minutes away from my home. Such a sad tragedy that he is still missing. I hope he returns home safe soon. 🥺❤️

[@monicap3314]

you are my absolute favorite youtuber! I listen while driving, at work in my office, and when I am just hanging out at home! Thanks so much for all of these very cool videos! Love ya - Monica :)

[@Rnamomma321]

I would of never thought about enrolling into school and I will be this fall BECAUSE I've watched so many of your videos and I found a passion and I'm so inspired! I don't know what degree will be yet but along the lines with criminal justice!

[@noelgobrutz3978]

i am victoria wishing you success and happiness 💚

[@DubstepLavahead]

Literally the outro gets me every time

[@mauroflores9820]

Same, it makes me so sad and I just ball

[@aaliyah6912]

When you showed the pictures of the man that claimed he was Timothy i thought, “I know this is a false lead, but there is no way this is him.” Timothy would be around my age, 14 or so. That man looked to be at least 19.

[@samanthalee5283]

I think she may have bought those items to throw investigators off. Nothing in the note she left implied that he is still alive. I really hope he is though 🙏🏼

[@staytrue72]

Samantha Lee the note said he was safe that kind of implies he’s alive but she could be lying so who knows

[@deannarose887]

Meaghan Hackett or in her mind ‘safe’ could mean dead.

[@deannarose887]

Meaghan Hackett oh you commented this a year ago. I’m sorry lol.

[@hcrappa091]

I remember this case and got soooooo excited when you posted that he might have been found! I have three children of my own 22yrs,15,and 13yrs old. I get so paranoid when they don't answer their phones because of how the world is today! Thank you for keeping these cases alive and doing all that you do!

[@iitskeykey1803]

this is so off topic and it’s random, but i have to say it!! this video that kendall just posted said it was posted only about an hour ago, but your comment says you posted it 7 hours ago! i’m so confused😭😭 lol sorry for the randomness i was just fascinated by it!! it might be a glitch on youtube or something lol

[@KatieMator]

The moment you realize you’ve been watching Kendall Rae for over 5 years.

[@lucywest1988]

Been watching her for a couple years, always talks about people with so much respect 🥰🥰🥰 I love her podcasts tooxxx

[@whitneylivingston4171]

Hahaha!

[@leleslayss7021]

I’m from Rockford Illinois and this was such a huge story at the time...😔 I really hope he is found 😭 Prayers🥺

[@andierussell7442]

I knew timothy personally as a kid, my mom is best friends with his aunt and i really, really hope he’s still out there somewhere :/

[@daisygarcia8298]

You guys should watch the documentary called "The imposter" it's very similar to this story

[@savannaholofsson2444]

Immediately bought a Thorn shirt, I really love your dedication to them!

[@manoela7046]

the song at the end gets me every time damn...............

[@audra4242]

I honestly kind of believe the Amish community theory. It always comes to mind, there’s no technology, a closed community, he’ll be taken care of, and he might not even know that he was ever actually abducted in the first place

[@annabethdiana5857]

He was old enough to remember his family though. If he were in the Amish community, at some point he would be allowed to go on rumaspringa and would find out where his dad is. He'd be like 16 now, and would be well old enough to find a way to contact his dad and let him know he was okay. Not saying it's not possible, just unlikely in my opinion.

[@vandelayindustries4880]

I live in an Amish community and they are the most gossipy group of people. There is no way a random child would have entered into the community without everyone knowing and talking about it. News travels fast in an Amish community.

[@ambercooper4676]

@@vandelayindustries4880 unless she told them to give him another name maybe, and no one ever asked question, but I kinda don’t believe the Amish theory just because he was six, and that’s old enough to remember his mom and dad.

[@sarahs2288]

Where are her missing clothes?

[@jasminwithaspoon3031]

He’s from my hometown): People were so happy when we heard that he may have potentially been found , It really sucks that, that wasn’t the case /:

[@shandiwarren6454]

I'm so sorry.

[@avrillovesyou1808]

Has The Ex Husband Ever Been Questioned 🤔Not Much Has Been Said About Him xx

[@BlueLGM]

ikr, i was thinking that

[@oliviawhite5983]

I’m so glad someone else thought this!

[@keishavaughn3861]

I said the same thing. They said she went back to her ex at some point don't make sense she possibly could have given this child to him to raise his own if she trusted him more. But he's going to need a birth certificate for a driver's license or permit if he is not with the Amish and he is alive

[@lindseyallen9619]

I have wondered this too! Especially if she was cheating on the husband with him, what is Timothy was really his & so she gave him to him before killing herself!?

[@blueclues2220]

That's crazy that people can figure out where that car was. Like in a field. By a pond. Future my dude.

[@LA-xc4tc]

Blue Clues why did I read this in coach Steve’s voice

[@fruitfrog]

Love these videos, even though they are most of the time very sad or frustrating with the cases that are shared, I enjoy the fact that I found a KZbinr like you, love you ❤️

[@rebeccarider1631]

My opinion has never change. I believe Amy took Timmothy on a "last adventure" because she knew that he was going to die. It was a case in which if I can't have him, no one can. Timmothy would have been found by now if he was alive. He also would be old enough to recall the events and likely even know his name. There's just no mystery here. The only mystery is which field she buried or hid him in.

[@candiceculkin6286]

I’m so conflicted on this one. i feel like every time i hear the story i believe a different theory. The fact that she bought h supplies does make me want to think he’s alive out there, maybe in another country like someone else in comments said, but when you said they found uncut grass underneath the bumper of her car my heart just dropped. i know it could have been a rural meeting place but i don’t know something in me just feels like that means she was disposing of his body along with all the other stuff she bought him (as a decoy) and her clothes w the evidence. Also her saying he belongs to her to is scary. I feel like i’ve heard of other parents who’ve killed their children saying the same thing. As much as i might doubt it i really hope he is alive and happy somewhere out there 💜

[@juliebosgraaf3259]

Maybe she gave him to an Amish couple to raise. It would be very very hard to find him if she did. I like to think he is still alive. I don’t think his Mom would have killed him.

[@juliebosgraaf3259]

Obviously in her mind at least, she didn’t think his father was a good enough person to leave him with whatever the reason. If he is with the Ammish, he will never know people are looking for him.

[@pindar18]

What is Ammish ?

[@eucebiovelasquez1069]

why would it be hard if she gave him to an amish couple? i’m sorry i just don’t rly know a lot about amish people.

[@Shesaphantomm]

Amish people are very religious. They have a lifestyle free from modern living and technology which makes it harder to track them down or keep any records of them. They usually give natural births, live in large families, eat homegrown food, don't use any medicine natural nor modern and live in homes they built themselves. Pretty much their main idea is to keep life and the Earth the way that God created it, completely natural. If you gave your child away to an Amish community, they are probably going to grow up in a large (safe?)community of people but it's nearly impossible to find them if you're the police. They also give the child a new identity and cut them off from the outside world, just as they do their own children.

[@eucebiovelasquez1069]

Danny Phantom oh! thank you very much for explaining that to me!

[@gemmamcveigh7424]

So the mom had an ex husband??? Was he ever a suspect??

[@olgapagan4773]

Only thing that makes me feel better is that there's hope he might be alive. Even if he's not with his family, but just hoping he's with good people. Sad story altogether.

[@chanelpool8409]

Cant believe you were in Glasgow my city😁😁 so love your channel ❤ your such a good person kendal much love ❤💜 xx

[@SarelleSirius]

There’s not really a “really good chance” that she put him different care. There’s almost a 100% chance his mother murdered him.

[@eiffelviolet]

You can't know that for sure.

[@yoshita4140]

@@eiffelviolet but you can make an educated guess

[@michaelaonthemove]

Kendall please cover the AJ Freund case from Crystal Lake, IL- my hometown! Such a sketchy case and all signs point to the parents.

[@ninahopkins326]

Rachel Shannon covered his case

[@alicepuna8820]

YESS I know I’m a year late but I live like 15 minutes from crystal lake. So heartbreaking

[@ErinJeanette]

I'm in Algonquin! My paralegal professor was his mom and dad's family attorney. It was crazy. My good friend also worked with her at super cuts, she said the day he was missing that she believed his mom killed him, and the day he went missing my mom and I went to help search and the police turned us and everyone else away cuz they knew he didn't run away I'm sure.

[@michaelpaxton8359]

You should cover MacKenzie Leuck’s story to keep her face alive!!! She’s 23 & currently missing.

[@alicetheneko7529]

Is there any update on her?

[@ultradreamgirl]

@@alicetheneko7529 yes, her remains were found in a home and the owner was charged. if you search her name you can see more videos on it.

[@jessicamanske5338]

You absolutely rock. I NEVER binge watch anyone....until now! You are just the coolest keep doing what you do.

[@liv2549]

I honestly think that he’s dead and that she killed him. The referring to him as her property really got me, I think she was treating him to this nice day out as a send off because she knew it was his last day on earth. The blood in the car and the note just don’t make sense.

[@jamilasantiago9875]

Mandela Effect, I could have sworn you covered this already...

[@galaxysgirl588]

Jamila Santiago yes omg!! I remember this too

[@hannahrichey13]

I was just looking for the other video she did of this because I was CERTAIN she did it already

[@hannahrichey13]

Lol kinda creepy someone else remembers it too

[@galaxysgirl588]

Hannah Richey she probably deleted it. This is how I heard about it , from Kendall

[@jamilasantiago9875]

I kinda thought she might have deleted it too. Cause I definitely remember her video of his being the first one I’ve ever seen

[@darkangelholz]

I've watched this video so many times now and it still breaks my heart. It doesn't get any easier to listen to or watch. I hope to god Timothy is still alive and safe out there and they find him xxxx

[@maddyrylie]

I really can’t wait to start working again so I can contribute to the Thorn cause and buy some beautiful merch from you! I love your videos I get so excited when you upload! And Mile Higher Podcast is literally my favourite podcast ever ❤️

[@foreverlibra93]

I think if she really did give him away who ever has him must be keeping him away from people and modern technology. Cause I mean at this point his face has been all over the internet . And I’m hopeful that he’ll see his face somewhere , realize what happened and get reunited with his real family . I just hope that where ever he is , that they’re treating him right .

[@gabriellalorenzi9137]

Monae Jones another comment mentioned him growing up amish/ being adopted by an Amish so it would make sense why he wouldn’t know about his own case. Or possibly another state, because I’ve never heard of this case and I’m from NYC

[@abbigailstone5235]

I’m born and raised and still living in Rockford, remember when this was all over the news. Now that I have my own son, it’s ten times more sad. Most people around here think she did something to her son

[@Elena_J]

Have they looked into her ex-husband and his family ?

[@staci0429]

Elena J I was thinking the same thing!!!

[@JHowesitgoing123]

that makes no sense lol

[@alexe4750]

This is so crazy!!! I live by/have been to all the places she went with timmothy!!! So crazy to know this is happening around me 😫

[@gabrielaneco7411]

my heart dropped when you said rockford inn, i stayed there recently to visit my boyfriend who used to go to rockford university which is minutes away where apparently a girl killed herself there too, and it was so creepy ngl this just sent shivers

[@Dontcarebear33]

The sad part is that even if he is found now and his “adoptive family” has taken good care of him, he will most likely choose to stay with the people he has known as his family for all of these years. Unfortunately that’s how it happens sometimes like in the case of Kamiyah Mobley.

[@erinireland3723]

I really hope he's somewhere safe. These videos ALWAYS make me cry.

[@ErinJeanette]

Did this need several spaces to make it a Read More comment? Or are you just being annoying 🤣

[@erinireland3723]

@@ErinJeanette and this was posted 2 years ago so? Did you just comment because you have nothing better to do? Like wtf?

[@ErinJeanette]

@@erinireland3723 yes, that's exactly why.

[@marleychristophersen9702]

I’m from Wisconsin and this was just on my news channel! They have not stopped looking and released a new aged progression photo!

[@LeoSilva-fp9bz]

I really respect that you do all your vids with so much info👍👍👍👍and much love❤...

[@BaileyBooLovesGlee]

Thank you for this, his father is my moms friend and I’ve known James my whole life, anybody talking about Timmothy is more eyes on the case and I can tell you that James is very thankful for people like you

[@BaileyBooLovesGlee]

As for James, this case and his sons disappearance has borderline ruined him, I was around him as a child when I was timmothys age and he truly held any and all of his friends children very close and had a special place in his heart for us. James is a kind man and I hope that one day soon we can all know the truth of what happened to Timmothy. James is a suffering father of a missing child and it saddens me that he still has no comfort in knowing the facts about his sons disappearance

[@bellarose5710]

I’m a new member but I have been a follower for about a year. LOVE your channel. So happy to be here and you are amazing!!!!

[@OXWatevazOXClevaOX]

Thank you 🙏🏽 soooo much for covering this. I asked the first day the imposter came on the news. 🖤🖤🖤

[@stephiechang2476]

Isn't Timmothy the cutest child ever!! His smile makes my heart melt. I hope he is alive. ❤️

[@C32700]

I’m from 10 minutes away and have never heard this story... crazy! Thank you for spreading awareness.

[@evilangel030]

Yes!!! Watching your vid in the bath. So happy you uploaded!

[@indica534]

Could you do a Kenneka Jenkins update?

[@jukiehoban782]

Is there an update on that case??

[@indica534]

@@jukiehoban782 yes. There are photos and I think another post mortem and a video of a guy with a big black plastic bag, parts of which were underneath her fingernails. Also I think there are signs she might have been raped.

[@richbizzle1749]

Neuro Nerd 😧

[@jukiehoban782]

Could anybody send a link or tell me what source you seen this update on? I've been googling all night trying to read about this update and the only thing I've seen is the kennekas mom is sueing the hotel but nothing about more/new evidence anywhere

[@fernandacarvalho4610]

Neuro Nerd p