Kenobi FLOPS | Disney's FAILURE is Complete Again

[@heronofalexandria91]

The thing that bothers me most is people surviving a hot rod of plasma being shoved through their stomach. You don’t survive that, you just had vital organs and part of your spine vaporized.

[@weefy117]

The character assassinations and lore breaking bothers me more, but yeah too many people are surviving fatal lightsaber blows. Disney has really ruined everything

[@voidmantis9133]

got healed or engineered by robot doing miracle

[@coath514]

Honestly qui gon looks like an absolute bitch now that he died from his wound. But not Super Reva

[@defeqel6537]

Unless in this universe black people are somehow a different species?

[@markferrel5027]

I mean i think it’s viable due to the Prequels saying that the dark side is a path to powers would be considered unnatural and the fact that one of those powers was cheating death. The 3-4 times someone’s cheated death has been by dark side users. Arguably Vader, Mual, The Grand Inquisitor, and Reva

[@ItaK-ql7yz]

Kenobi: Who you become now, that is up to you. Reva: I'm Reva... Reva Skywalker

[@keshav8393]

OMFG 😂🤣

[@BDLabs2]

[Pademe’s force ghost appears to show approval. Then whipe transition to end credits with Cantina theme playing]

[@aa-ze5cz]

LOL

[@ChocolateCylon]

I don’t often comment. But yours is perfection so I had to say something.

[@stranger5011]

Getting Just a Pancake vibes here: "I'm already half -Xehanort- *Skywalker"*

[@leshkraven]

I think Vader lowered his sabers PSU output due to present day energy costs , that`s why his saber isn`t working very well. With prices these days even the dark side is struggling.

[@miketocci]

When Darth Joe put a stop to the Kyber crystal pipeline, costs shot sky high. Let's thank the Empire for making sure he fairly and democratically "won" his position as a Sith Lord.

[@JohnP538]

Vader was told to buy the new planet friendly light saber with the convenient hand crack but decided to spend the money on suit detailing.

[@biffbuffington4393]

Vader was bull shit when the hippie dewshbag storm trooper gave him his low output eco friendly light saber. Vader was heard saying 'what is this gay shit? This saber sucks!'

[@peterg76yt]

Inflation is hurting everywhere. Look how long it took to build the Death Star.

[@jdenney]

It costs him 7.75 Imperial Credits per GWh

[@takkima]

Funny thing about this series on Rotten Tomato is that, when ep6 came out, there were suddenly a lot of top critics reviews, and the top critic review score dropped to around 60ish%, a couple days later all critic reviews are hidden, and the score reverts back to 80ish, you can tell the Mouse is trying real hard to "settle" its scores

[@Nick-up5wv]

The mouse🐁 can get bent!

[@joeschmoe233]

I saw that to, the people in charge are once again trying to put lipstick on a pig.

[@jamie.777]

That Mickey Mouse money is powerful

[@WhiskyCardinalWes]

I'm beginning to think the light saber is only really good at opening doors. Reeba has been 'killed' by Darth Vader's light saber twice now. That makes Vader either very sloppy, or the light saber not very good at killing.

[@ponrix]

She's a Highlander.

[@deadcell4837]

He clearly forgot to put stronger batteries in.

[@Dragonage2ftw]

Dark Side users can survive a lot.

[@thelowlifex9437]

@@coktoe4487 hahahahhaha

[@ybshaun4526]

I thought she played dead the first time

[@Blaiyan]

He didn't stab her through. He clearly sticks the lightsaber under her arm because she forgot to shave that week.

[@FrancistheBrave]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yankee1376]

Brutal.

[@johnvangelis484]

Wow that's super insightful ..... Did U come up with that all on your own or did mommy right it down in crayon first

[@ImranKhan-hl6ch]

Gotta admit you had me in the first half

[@mirceazaharia2094]

@@johnvangelis484 Cope. Seethe. Dilate. Rinse and repeat.

[@lingricen8077]

Disparu pointed out that Reva only spared Luke when she SAW HERSELF as Luke. Meaning she didn’t show mercy to anyone, she only showed mercy to the most important person in the galaxy…HERSELF. In her head, its all about her. She didnt see herself in all the people she killed in the way. EDIT: To reiterate, it was DISPARU who made this observation. Check out his channel, I got it from his ‘Obi-wan Episode 6’ video. He said it way more eloquently than I could type it

[@snakedogman]

The core of wokeness is unfathomable narcissism so that makes sense. Reva is black and a woman, so a victim x 2

[@thomasbrennan1038]

@@snakedogman YOU RACIST, HOW DARE YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH!!!

[@mahguvnah7403]

The foundation of empathy is the ability to put yourself in someone else's position. This is a terrible criticism.

[@TheHeartThatRunsCold]

@@mahguvnah7403 .... So your saying, she suddenly wakes up to being empathetic at the end of her arc in this show. At the moment where she needs to for canon to be respected (even though this show shatters canon), so all your really saying is that it's absolutely moronic for a different reason.

[@skylx0812]

@@mahguvnah7403 In the Empire Strikes Back, Luke saw his own face in Darth Vader's broken mask and was motivated to save his father in Return of the Jedi, and not just save himself. The Reva character through the lens of Kennedy and her idealogues only ever focus on themselves. And they've been actively belittling the male characters. You have a very narrow point of view.

[@aikawaayumu9003]

They could have made a show where we followed what Obi and Vader were doing without them ever physically meeting and it could have been great. Vaders struggles early on as a new Sith, his suit, his guilt and anger eating him alive. Obi watching over Luke, dealing with his emotiins after the fall of the Jedi, meeting with Qui Gon. We could have seen the moment Obi learned Anakin survived. Of course thru flashbacks you still could have had them together without messing with canon. Heck, they could have even had a "close call" where they felt each other but narrowly avoid meeting. It could have been amazing.

[@Fettman89]

Right they did it for all the seasons of The Clone Wars with Anakin and General Grievous.

[@ChicoAzevedo]

They could show some obiwan vs inquisitors to pump up some duels.... but noooooooooo....

[@csdude35]

This suggestion is far better than the show

[@xUseTheForks]

Sounds boring asf

[@CynicalSandwichParty]

You giving an excerpt of what could have been is one of the first things that struck me to my core of what little remains of my inner StarWars fan. The sheer thought we'll never get to see this, and worse, got this drivel in stead, almost hurts. But thanks for sharing it non the less. Perhaps, somewhere in the multiverse, that quality content actually exists. Ah well, at the very least we can keep the extra money in our pockets to pay for overpriced fuel.

[@JamieHitt]

I understand now why they were called star destroyers. They have to be aiming at something really huge in order to hit it.

[@bentonrp]

🤭🤭🤭!

[@beny2656]

Ever hear of a new hope?

[@taylorbaggins0922]

HAHAHA

[@Steger13]

🤣😂🤣

[@launchpadmcquack4043]

The fact the Star Destroyer was missing those shots didn't bother me nearly so much as the fact the ship they were chasing was mobile enough to be weaving around like that but not once did the pilot think "Since we can clearly outmanoeuvre this Star Destroyer, let's go in a completely different direction!". But then, it's not like anyone throughout the show's entirety was really making any smart decisions, so.

[@sarson25]

I spent my childhood defending star wars from people who said it was for dorks and losers. Now I'm adamant that star wars is for dorks and losers..... thanks disney💩

[@vespenegas261]

I have to disagree on this one. It's for a cattle

[@andysalter7192]

​@@guyincognito8440 this isn't the jocks or cheerleader crowd it's the Activism woke Feminist crowd. It might be good if they let Jocks write it !!!

[@BigSeanH]

@@andysalter7192 Yeah, but the woke kids are the "jocks" now... the popular kids who have the backing of the teachers and the power of the institution.

[@tripplordofinconvenience9953]

I guess we're the Jedi in hiding now.

[@sarson25]

I'm just glad most true fans have sensed the dark side in disney.

[@authorpgbadzey5775]

"Disney didn't start Star Wars, but they sure as hell are going to finish it..." Pure gold. 👍

[@kirkistief]

"Disney didn't start Star Wars, but they sure as hell are going to kill it and continue to beat it for over a decade."

[@hungchoonghow5857]

I heard George Lucas has been taking sleeping pills to sleep every night since 2017.... All that effort from his youth go down the Woke toilet bowl.

[@Shafter1337]

🤡🌍

[@onestopfunstop317]

All in the name of "DIVERSITY". *** "DIVERSITY"... A child Reva defeated Anakin Skywalker when she was in Kindergarten and just easily escaped his killing spree of the Younglings because she was the first Fully inclusive Black Character in the Star Wars universe, (Black, Gay Lesbian, Female). Even though the biggest character in the entire franchise (James Earl Jones, Darth Vader), is Black. Along with Lando Calrissian, Mace Windu, Finn, and a host of other make-up'd characters. *** "DIVERSITY"...And Adult Reva Survives being stabbed through the Heart with a LightSaber. Again, because she is the first fully inclusive Black Gay Female Character. WTF? How do you get run through the heart with a light saber and appear in the very next scene acting like it's just a scratch? It's so bad it's not even Laughable. It just make you want to through something through the TV. *** "DIVERSITY"... Leia is now 1000x more Powerful and Important than Luke ever was in the Star Wars Universe, because she's female, even though it's been established hundreds of times over that she refused to be trained. Because... Wait for it. simply because She's a girl... Even though Anakin was literally the Chosen one. And Luke faced down Darth Vader multiple times. Including going 2 on 1 against Vader and the Emperor. And was the only one who walked out alive. *** "DIVERSITY"... Child Luke looks like he eats School Paste and Crayons, while Leia is Strapping a Gun on her hip at the ripe old age of 10. *** "DIVERSITY"... the Biggest hero in the entire Clone Wars (Obi Wan Kenobi) is a Complete Pussy and can't do anything, even though he faced off against every major threat the emperor threw at the Jedi including count Dooku twice, and general grievous twice. And he ended up killing Grievous even while his own troops were trying to kill him because of order 66. But in this series, the female spy inside the empire Tala Durith, can defeat entire garrisons of Storm troopers with just a Blaster on her hip, she stopped Darth Vader and all of the Inquisitors at the same time along with hundreds of Storm Troopers with only a single shot. While Obi Wan was running around looking like Jack Sparrow or a Benny Hill Character. *** "DIVERSITY"... For some unknown reason, the fist fully inclusive Black Gay Female Reva not only knew about Leia, but also knew about Luke. So after they went after the 2 as children, why did Darth Vader Stop going after them if they were what brought Obi Wan out of Hiding in the First Place? And how did she she know about the kids when not a single other person in the universe knew. Simple. she's a fully inclusive Character, (Black Gay Female with the Power to Defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in History, the chosen one, when she was just a baby). The Entire series is just so stupid and makes no sense. Especially when the lightsabers start bouncing off of people in the final fight. suddenly they won't cut through anything anymore. They just bounce off of human flesh. But they cut through blast doors 2 episodes earlier. Why doesn't Disney Fire Kathleen Kennedy. I just don't get it. She's purposely destroying the most valuable franchise that ever existed. There's no way any of these decisions are being made by someone who wants Star Wars to Succeed. They're trying to destroy it.

[@reek4062]

nah, Star Wars fans will keep watching it until their death. They won't abandon their religion.

[@markchisholm2657]

We should take some solace in that Disney Star Wars has brought us the humour of Nerdronic and the Critical Drinker. To hear them rip apart the failures of Disney is a treat.

[@guillermoriquelme6697]

You gotta see Vito's review of Rise of Skywalker. Absolutely hilarious.

[@bro-be3bd]

Agreed. I disagree with his takes on Phase 4 of the MCU but his takes on Star Wars are golden.

[@ecurb10]

Haha....quite true!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thank you Disney!

[@YormanGina]

I love how people were defending Obi-wan getting stomped the first time, saying he cut himself off from the Force and hadn't trained in 10 years, yet we're expected to believe that he's able to beat Vader after a few days? Also, they just had Reva spare Luke so they could be like "if it wasn't for her mercy, the Empire would still be ruling the galaxy, ect." Pretty much how Rey stole Anakin's redemption and even his last name.

[@7thwheel]

ObiWan in episode 3. I will take the boy and watch over and protect him. ObiWan in Disney Star Wars. I am mopey and have decided to cut myself off from the force.

[@tripplordofinconvenience9953]

In ROTS Yoda tells Obi-Wan that he has training for him whilst in hiding. Apparently Obi-Wan decided to do what I do before a test and not study/train at all.

[@svenschwingel8632]

I have to be honest: the idea of Obi Wan getting disillusioned over time, living a sad life after his failure had some real potential that was already explored in some of the SW video games (Jedi Knight II and Kyle Katarn come to mind - Katarn had to "re-learn" his way around the force as well). It gave Obi Wan something that mere fallible humans can connect to. Although I am 100% sure that wasn't what Disney had in mind - they probably rather wanted to show a useless "old white man" as part of THE MESSAGE. Also, the idea of him rediscovering his connection to the force wasn't that bad. And Vader totally owning him during the first duel could be attributed to a sheer horror Obi Wan felt when he saw what Anakin had become and how he failed on Mustafar by not killing him during ROTS. As for the second duel: we all know what Master Kenobi is capable of. He beat Anakin once and I doubt there were many folks around being able to help Vader to further hone his lightsaber skills. But canically speaking, anything else but a total stalemate (kinda like Yoda and Palpatine in ROTS) simply makes no sense. The way Disney played it, he had Vader dead to rights and should have given him the Count Dooku treatment. By not doing so, the writers barely kept the Canon and also furthered the deconstruction of the "useless old white man", just like they did with Luke Skywalker in TLJ. The force is female guys. Live with it. 🤣🤡

[@XaldirGodofGood]

You dont understand, the Force is like an Internet Connection, you can just pull the Plug, and if you want it again, fumble around put it in again and wait 5 Seconds.

[@MHMKid]

@@XaldirGodofGood Buffering for power🤣😂

[@matthewmekonis1790]

I am so old I remember watching the original movie back in the 70’s. That also means I remember how Jedis had to be trained which the new trilogy and Kenobi shattered by having people magically training themselves and surviving lightsabers to the face. This IP is officially DOA.

[@47279J]

The makers of these loser productions didn't have the time to watch any original films. They were far too busy with their twitter accounts and moral posturing. This is the 2020's: you're free to make entries into existing IP's with no knowledge of the original thing apart from possibly knowing the names of the three central characters and beyond that, you are free too imagine everything else to your exact pleasing, no matter how much in runs contrary what the original entry had. Feel free to retcon everything.- though this is not even real retconning, because in reality it's ignorance and not retconning.

[@JustCallMeHeavy]

Wow

[@phonepunk7888]

It’s funny, I never thought they were going to be able to ruin Darth Vader, but somehow they went back in time to his darkest point and made him a failure at it. So Darth Vader and his initial order 66 slaughter was actually a failed attempt. I think people are going to be surprised in how many different ways they destroy canon over the next few years.

[@TheHighlander5555]

This IP has been DOA since The Last Jedi IMO. They're just kicking the corpse now.

[@randobad]

I'm with you, I must have seen the first Star Wars at least 10 times when I was a kid.

[@ineffable0ne]

Disney: "This is canon." Translation: "This is the latest fever-dream our fanfiction writers cooked up."

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

Don’t you have to be a fan to write fan fiction?

[@apollyon9946]

@@donkeysaurusrex7881 Don't you have to be a writer to write fiction, and not some random producer that is friends with Kathleen Kennedy?? that's who wrote this, just some random guy that has only written 2 terrible films before, not even any TV or other media, just films.

[@Chiyo18]

disney's canon blows :/

[@aerialXace]

Do you count Leia kissing her brother Luke TWICE canon?

[@ViIgax]

@@aerialXace *>B-but but what about that kiss?* Try harder. Disney’s so called “Star Wars” will never be canon.

[@lancebuttox9637]

I cant begin to tell you the immense pleasure I got from not watching this series

[@NjamNjam0]

Same brother

[@Aldermus]

Same. Star wars is dead for me. Easy

[@Suggestedbabies]

Wish I had done the same.

[@obsidaisy7776]

As a big fan of Star Wars, when people ask me how was 'The Rise of Skywalker', I tell them I don't know, I haven't seen it.

[@bittubiswas8271]

I lost interest after 3 episode didn't bother wasting time xD

[@YouMeTheMovies]

Reva is the most pointless character in the show now but also the biggest plot hole in the universe. She some how knows everything… and is still alive. Also… Vader could have used his transport to follow Obi-Wan while the Star Destroyer followed the rest of the Rebels. Just another non-sensical decision that should just be common sense.

[@MonstersNotUnderTheBed]

It shows the amateur sophomoric minds of the writers and directors, and apparently anyone around them, totally vois of knowledge that would make the "war" in Star Wars believable. One of the greatest lines of Empire Strikes Back is when a junior officer informs the star destroyer commander of rebel ships entering their assigned sector. And he says arrogantly and confidently, "Good, our first catch of the day." He says it like they have repeated this same operation victoriously many times before. It means the writers had some understanding of naval and aerial warfare and strategy. It means they understood the behavior of combat veteran military officers.

[@phonepunk7888]

She literally is just a black woman version of Darth Vader. She starts off as a good Jedi who falls to the dark side and then comes back to the light, just like Vader. Except she does it first, and she doesn’t need a son, she is her own powerful woman. Somehow she has usurped two of Vader main story points.

[@randobad]

Diversity hires and token characters are worthless.

[@bentonrp]

There IS no Reva. =]

[@anthonyyoutubefan7567]

@@bentonrp "Yes...there IS NO REVA...you can go about your business...move along." :)

[@ChengTeoh]

Can Star Wars get any worse? Future Disney : "Let me think. How about Jar Jar Binks the Sith Lord movie?"

[@ivayloivanov7231]

@Peak Aussieman Yep!

[@dedcaesar2325]

I'd actually have an ounce of respect for them if they actually funded a project based on a meme.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

I would see that Movie. Via the yo-ho-ho method of course

[@balthazarasquith]

Honestly that sounds better than all the stuff Disney star wars has made

[@Sheevlord]

Please no. Don't let Disney butcher this great idea. Let someone competent make this movie instead.

[@vonpredator]

“The circle is now complete. First I was the groomed, now I, am the Groomer.” - Darth Vader (probably)

[@TheScarletSlayer]

Eh to be fair that was palpatine's plan in a nutshell

[@anthonywilliams-lz2gr]

M

[@wadewilson5712]

if not vader most definitely a di$ney employee

[@Barrysmooth]

To be honest he was groomed first by Padme and then Obi Wan. So no wonder he so messed up.

[@vonpredator]

@@Barrysmooth Oh Yeah! The Groom is strong with both Obi Wan and Padme!

[@Shadow-In-The-East]

That joke about James Earl Jones's voice being "More machine now than man" was actually epic, I didn't even realize the stunning, poetic irony of them using their "respeechify-er" technology to create Vader's voice now. Brilliant.

[@aleksanderignaczewski2691]

One question. Jedi aren't supposed to use their emotions in as motivation. Why did Kenobi use his emotions for Leia and Luke to get himself from under of those rocks?

[@asgamon9670]

I’m sure at this point he probably doesn’t give a single fuck tbh like would you?

[@benmooney280]

Bc Disney doesn’t have a fucking clue

[@yosup7400]

Because he understood the mistakes of the Jedi Council and their teachings. The whole purpose of the prequel trilogy was to highlight the hypocrisy and failings of the Jedi Order. He's shown to finally understand that by becoming able to see Qui-Gon's force ghost at the end.

[@roderickhclouden5107]

@@yosup7400 Nope... It was always about balance. The entire series is always about balance. Sometimes the good guys want results without having anyone die which is unrealistic. Sith want Power but jave to destroy the order they want to keep in the end.. The Jedi fragmented because they wanted to police so many. The Sith became Fragmented because they stopped regarding life in general.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

Because the Jedi way is stupid. Blocking out emotions is a bad thing. Qui gon disagreed with the Jedi way. This is Kenobi using the “true light side,” if you will, and actually tapping in to positive emotions

[@GrilloTheFlightless]

Why didn’t Vader kill Reva after she tried to kill him? He didn’t even try to imprison her. Why does Reva plan to kill Luke? To get revenge on Vader? What? By killing the son he doesn’t care about and doesn’t even know exists? Why does the ‘young’ Anakin look so old? Say what you like about Star Trek Picard, but at least they did a more convincing de-ageing on John DeLancie. Why are the light sabres so heavily over-lit? Why does Leia not remember being rescued by Obi Wan in A New Hope, especially as she hears Luke refer to him as Ben? Why is it that when Vader’s helmet gets split, it looks like the helmet is built all in one piece when Vader’s isn’t in one piece? How does Kenobi get across the galaxy so quickly in order to save Luke? Why did they not use The Imperial March until right at the end, and when they did use it it seemed to sound clunky and inferior to the movie version of the tune? How did they manage to make the Emperor look like he’s not being played by Ian McDiarmid, even though he is being played by Ian McDiarmid? Why does Obi Wan decide, from episode 2, that the best way to avoid being discovered as a Jedi is to wear robes that look almost exactly like Jedi robes? Why did they bother to even make this show? Doing prequels is a dangerous thing. It’s too easy to accidentally cause continuity issues and plot holes. Lucas did the same thing with the prequel movies, but at least they were still fun so we could forgive him. Messing with beloved character is also a mistake. Mandalorian worked. Rogue One worked. The main reason is because they focused on new characters with no audience preconceptions of how they should be presented. But mess with our favourites from the past? Well, what they did to Boba Fett and Obi Wan shows the reason why you just shouldn’t do it.

[@akuhappy3246]

Messing with favorit character from the past is indeed a big sin this company did with star wars

[@halesharp4270]

Why didn't the people fleeing from Vader and the empire simply take the ship that was inside the main ship as it has access to hyperspace? Kenobi uses it when he flies back to Tatooine.

[@lovemorgan-7]

+ what they did to the characters of Luke Skywalker, Vader, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Lando, Bail Organa, Owen Lars, Admiral Akbar, Grand Inquisitor, etc…noticing a trend here

[@lovemorgan-7]

@@halesharp4270 agreed…and why are 0 - TIE fighters launched in episodes 5 & 6? Why doesn’t Vader give the Grand Inquisitor command of the star destroyer to continue chasing the damaged transport ship and take his TIE fighter with/without a few wingmen (like in ANH) or transport (like he does anyway later on) to follow Obi-Wan???

[@kokot6764]

Why Reva (in past, she survive a lightsaber wound and survive control shots from clones in Jedi temple - like they do it for Aayla Secura) dont use saber to strike a Grand Incv. for a multiple times. She know -> a saber so weak -> every wound be like "Tis But a Scratch". She have experience in survive same wounds. Why not chop his head off and other body parts, to prevent problems from angry and restored Dark force user in future? Or why she dont care to utilize body of Grand Incv.. Use thermal detonator or desintegrator or trash utilizator. Destroy body to prevent any clue for Empire. I mean - a Empire must do revenge, if someone discover - Reva was unloyal and she kill one of Empire bosses.

[@mpbarber12]

As far as I'm concerned, the old EU "Legends" is true SW canon. Hell I was even getting into the Legacy timeline with a New Republic that existed beside a Fel Empire based on Bastion complete with Imperial Knights that were all gray jedi. Ever since they turned the EU into Legends, Disney has consistently given the fans the middle finger.

[@EliWintercross]

The Fel Empire is pretty cool

[@robertsleeth861]

I still have my Star Wars Chronology book from before Disney took over. Has all the EU characters. I thought about getting rid of it but Disney has screwed up SW so bad, I decided to keep it. It's canon to me now.

[@Spartan322]

@@just_inker2584 That's part of the reason there was a 5 (or was it 6?) prong canon category system for the old EU. (it went from basically completely incompatible with any of the Star Wars canon to "Lucas Recognized Canon")

[@theunknownguy5775]

Working through the clone wars novels as we speak.

[@SnoutBetter002]

Wholeheartedly agree. Mara Jade, Jacen, Jaina. God knows why they didn’t use some of those novels. damn… was this show underwhelming. I hyped for the first 40 seconds watching order 66.

[@wondereagle]

They absolutely lost me when Kenobi, who made the terrible mistake in Revenge of not ensuring Anikan was dead dead, had a second chance with Darth at his mercy, but simply turns, saying ‘bye Darth’, and walks away…..WTF??? I will definitely be cancelling Disney when my yearly subscription comes due.

[@ChocolateCylon]

I ever have and never will subscribe to the mouse trash. You’ll feel better soon.

[@pederslothzuricho7685]

It's because he is a Jedi through and through, the entire plot of the series up until the point of that battle is Obi-Wan guilt tripping on his way to the dark side. He isn't feeling guilty that he couldn't kill Anakin Skywalker, in fact he believed he did. But his guilt goes deeper into that of failing his master Quigon in terms of training the chosen one. And then ending up causing the fall of the Republic and the Jedi Order indirectly through his failure. He cannot kill Anakin because he is a Jedi, the Jedi he should be unlike Anakin who kills Doku. Even the moment of supposedly killing Darth Maul, the phrasing used by the Jedi were destroyed, not killed, the sith entity was destroyed, but not killed. On the minds of the Jedi Order it makes no difference. But to the Jedi killing is taking the life of another when mercy is an option. Darth Vader is both making it clear that he killed Anakin, not Obi-Wan, which gives Obi-Wan some peace, but ultimately that Anakins legacy lives on on his children is the main point there. When Obi-Wan leaves Darth Vader again, he does it because his objective was never to kill anyone, but to confront his darkness. He could not kill Darth Vader and still accomplish this. He is a Jedi and killing Anakin is not the Jedi way. When Master Windu ordered Anakin to kill Darth Sidious, it was not Master Windu's Jedi side which was talking but his dark side. He was a special case of dark and light, unlike the Grey Jedi, his resolve was not subject to the will of the force, but his ideology. Anakin broke over this command and his desire to save Padme. It all triggered when he killed Doku, "I am not the Jedi I am supposed to be." But Obi-Wan Kenobi was, he couldn't have killed Doku. That is the point. He couldn't kill Darth Vader even if it was why he had come. Unless it happened in a defense strike. Like the highground leg dismemberment, but he didn't strike a killing blow. Or as Batman would have put it, "I am not going to kill you, but that doesn't mean that I have to save you!" So obviously you don't get the very basic concept of the Jedi's no killing policy. War is not why they are there. It's the very problem Yoda has with the clones. In fact the entire point of the chosen one and episode 6 is that the reason why Anakin is the chosen one is that he destroyed the sith master, and on turn kept Like from killing anyone, and instead caused his own death by throwing Palpatine into his death while being electrocuted. And as such brought balance to the force, with his death, asking Luke to NOT save him, because he already did. Yada yada. Return of the Jedi is a dual meaning, as you know. But the point was that it was achieved by no Jedi killing Sith. The point of bye Darth is two things 1: to establish why Obi-Wan calls him 'Darth' on a new hope. And 2: To acknowledge that Darth Vader is not Anakin Skywalker, and that Darth Vader Killed Anakin Skywalker... From a certain point of view. Basically there is no way Any match between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Dart Vader would ever end up with Obi-Wan Kenobi killing Darth Vader in cold blood or for convenience of getting rid of a Sith. The entire point has always been that Luke or Leia can fulfill the prophecy. And defeat the sith, by other means than the light saber. Obi-Wan Kenobi clearly believe that him killing Darth Vader will accomplish nothing. Except his own ruin. Therein lies a bit of the arrogance the Jedi are accused of. From the Jedi's point of view, not killing Darth Vader is not a mistake, their perspective goes beyond the act of killing the Sith. As Obi Wan Kenobi puts it, "your desire to win blinds you", "untill you overcome it, a padawan you still will be". It's clearly not a matter about winning vs the Sith at all cost for the Jedi, the method of accomplishment is important for the metric of success. So we as an audience think o the greater good, but that is not the way of the Jedi.

[@joeschmoe233]

me too, for sure

[@zacelyokai9137]

@@pederslothzuricho7685 the point of the OT is kill Vader and Palpatine, that obi wan leave vader has no sense

[@pederslothzuricho7685]

@@zacelyokai9137 I 100% disagree with your sentiment, The entire point of the OT was to destroy the empire, or rather prevent being destroyed by the empire, and pave the way for democracy. This is a goal for the rebellion, but not the heroes journey Luke Skywalker sets out on. It's ultimately a story of growing up, and becoming an adult. Choices, and consequences. The entire title of the return of the Jedi, is exactly to that of the return of Anakin Skywalker, and that's why the meeting with Obi-Wan Kenobi is more substantial than kill or be killed. The entire point of the confrontation is a battle of idealism, not a battle of absolute good and evil. In my mind you appear to have missed this pivotal plot point, and arrive at a different conclusion. But as it is with litterature and movies, it's up for interpretation, so I won't say you are incorrect, but I definitely do not agree with you.

[@robertsrobots6531]

"Deborah Chow's shakycam in Star Wars is sacrilege. . ." Yep, one of the virtues of real Star Wars movies is their classical film making approach.

[@donpietruk1517]

It still isn't as bad as the shaky cam in Discovery. That will make you sea sick.

[@kylerstorm9260]

screaming “sacrilege!!!” over minor details is the conservative equivalent of calling something “literal violence” at the end of the day, both are empty complaints because of hurt fee fees

[@julythrunov]

You consider the way a camera is used to shoot a scene …a minor detail? Wtf is wrong with your mind?

[@Amagys]

@@kylerstorm9260 That's not a minor detail, you don't need to know anything about film making to understand what a shaking camera footage implies--someone is there actually holding a camera and recording the fight scenes, as in the camera man is now an actor in the setting with their own agency and influence. It drastically changes the tone and the implication of a first person point of view isn't a good one. Pragmatically it hides poor fight choreography though

[@HerrEllsworth]

Every film maker thought "shaky cam" was the hippest thing when they saw it on NYPD Blue all those years ago. It was then used in the abysmal remake of BSG and made it even more annoying to watch. Some of these film school grads think it adds dynamic to the scene but it's only distracting and sloppy.

[@chasehedges6775]

This show was absolutely baffling in how underwhelming it is.

[@readypetequalmers7360]

written by "Major major major" ... it was remarkable how unremarkable he was

[@Bear-form]

To be fair .. I did enjoy the last two episodes.

[@jamesarnold2027]

Right? This show had cool moments, but as a whole, it didn't elevate anything, and it took away from the original trilogy. This show doesn't even offer anything new. I just don't understand Lucasfilms these days. I think I understand why George sold it, but, whatever. Hopefully, before we die, we'll get some good Star Wars materail. If anything, the upcoming games may be better.

[@peaceunion5316]

@@jamesarnold2027 this show did more for obi wans character development than anything since the original trilogy

[@chasehedges6775]

@@peaceunion5316 No. no it didn’t

[@FatNorthernBigot]

Season 1? If they make another series I'm not sure what it could be about... There's only so many fights Ben/Vader could have until they have to rewrite New Hope... "We meet again, after last week. This is one of the times where I am the master. Have you had a hair cut? Looks good, etc..."

[@snakedogman]

lol

[@t_bone12571]

Obi-Wan to Vader: "It's good to see you again, you still look the same."

[@FatNorthernBigot]

@@t_bone12571 "I had my helmet polished"

[@t_bone12571]

@@FatNorthernBigot "Well, it looks better than the one I broke earlier. Is that a new voice modulator?"

[@FatNorthernBigot]

@@t_bone12571 "Yes, I bought it from Amazon, because that might as well be cannon, too"

[@truechaos6927]

There is always that favored Tolkien quote that could be applied to Disney Star Wars as well, “Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made”.

[@Scripture-Man]

I'm no Tolkien fan, but my goodness, he was so right about that! This once-good franchise has been absolutely destroyed by evil Hollywood.

[@jamesmandahl444]

@Lee Bee "I'm no Tolkien fan" wut

[@rustyblade9366]

@@Scripture-Man LoL, not a fan of Tolkien 🤡

[@ecurb10]

Oooh very good!

[@reek4062]

That 'quote' is a perversion of the real Tolkien quote: ''The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own. I don't think it gave life to the orcs, it only ruined them and twisted them; and if they are to live at all, they have to live like other living creatures.''

[@joshuaprets2044]

Just to be clear... Disney decided to add a story about Kenobi in which he leaves Darth Vader for dead - AGAIN - making the same exact mistake twice, effectively making him the dumbest jedi ever. We also learned that getting impaled through the chest with a light saber is no big deal. And Kenobi really didn't do anything to protect or look after Luke.

[@Difdauf]

And Vader lost again, making him a loser instead of the badass vilainn he is supposed to be.

[@jordanworley4088]

Qui-gon, one of the most accomplished and skilled Jedi to ever exist, takes one lightsaber stabbin and dies almost immediately. Reva, an untrained child, gets the same thing as a kid and lives. Then grows up teaching herself the force, gets Qui-gon'd AGAIN, and lives AGAIN! It would be comical if they weren't serious. Lol

[@noway8662]

Whole point is that Kenobi is kryptonite to Vader. He's a totally wimpy manwhore against him. Vader wins against all, except those who have mentally and physically raped him in the past. Those two being Palpatine and Kenobi. He's always been emo-wreck. He's just been wearing a black clown costume picked by his evil Daddy Palpy this whole time to cover it up. Look, you already saw it in Return of the Jedi. Why are you so surprised about it now?

[@domx7zero157]

what where you expecting? for them to have tea time and laugh it off?

[@peterkrochmalni673]

Shouldn’t Darth Vader have been the one to leave Obi-wan which would’ve lined up with his line in A New Hope, “When I left you I was but the learner.” But this is Disney and we can’t have them line up with the continuity of something they didn’t make originally.

[@MrMulligan84]

It shouldn't have been Luke or Leia, that inspired Obi it should have been his mission, his duty. He is a Jedi, attachment is not the way of the Jedi until Luke in Legends (the more real canon) allows it. Leia post-Disney acquisition is the most canon-breaking character in SW.

[@ezequielmorales4221]

Leia and Luke ARE his mission and duty. It was the last orden of the grandmaster Yoda.

[@darkmistico]

@@ezequielmorales4221 jedis arent suposed to have feelings ... that can lead to the dark side.. i mean.. the afroamerican side of the force

[@Dripx-]

Dude, he was given a task to take care of them to have hope that someone would rise up and defeat the Dark Side. I'd say that's a pretty important reason. Not to mention, the older Jedi way of thinking was dead. You can see this with Qui Gon (especially after Obi sees him), as he was an ACTUAL Jedi instead of halting all attachments, holding in all emotions, etc. Also, I know this is in the sequel trilogy but Yoda ends up burning the Jedi Texts in front of Luke to basically say the traditional Jedi rules were done. So even if you wanted to say Obi did this as an "attachment" issue, there is still an explanation as to why.

[@TheScarletSlayer]

Writer guy: so then obi wan gets inspired by a ten year old girl that he's known for a couple of days and had under his trench coat at one point Producer guy: ....I don't ....I ....* Sighs* ok

[@adrianmercado3092]

Yeah for a Jedi ObiWan acts like an ordinary depressed person.

[@abandonallhope.1040]

Did they ever answer how Reva got to Tatooine so quickly when she was like half-dead and didn't have access to any meaningful transportation by the end of episode 5? Maybe it was better that Kenobi didn't fight an Inquisitor in this series because it for sure would have been Reva and that would have been...awful.

[@adzmo5422]

She used the GOT teleporter

[@michaelcorrea4336]

@@adzmo5422 Littlefinger's jetpack.

[@kelpie1533]

She walked.

[@walterlucero5757]

Space Reva

[@GlacialRaven]

Probably the same way she was able to get ahead of Leia in the tunnel even though she didn’t know where it ended, bad writing

[@ChicoAzevedo]

My childhood was stabbed again and again by disney. At least we had Rogue one, some episodes of mandalorian and jedi fallen order.

[@SheldonAdama17]

“Lord Vader, the Kenobi finale just dropped and we’re preparing to -“ “You have failed me for the last time, Disney”

[@cleanerben9636]

"Apology accepted, Kathleen Kennedy" [Kennedy motionless on the floor]

[@irwin3381]

How does Reva survive, well it’s obviously like “ she’s the greatest everrr” duh lol 😂

[@Debilinside]

Please dont let Reva and Rey fight. The mary sue energy would destroy the universe.

[@sologirl7194]

Makes Han and Qi Gon really pathetic to die from something as insignificant as a lightsaber wound...😉

[@magic.k6337]

Now that I think of it...I guess she's the one who created force healing...🗑🗑🗑

[@meleemastermaa1449]

@@Debilinside In Disney's Star Wars universe all women in the galaxy are best friends, so they would never fight each other.

[@TheMaleRei]

@@Debilinside Worse. They'll come out with a super mega edition of Rise of Skywalker and Reva will appear as a Force Ghost to help train Rey.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Reva is definitely a role model for girls everywhere. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fuckwitmcdipshit2963]

Well, reva is finnish slang word for female genitalia.

[@SansoHumar]

Of course. Especially the woke girls of today. They like killing people with lightsabers and call it woman empowerment. Didn’t you get the memo ??? 😂😂😂😂

[@Launchpad05]

Just like Kim Kardashian, and Bella Swan. 😂😂😂😂

[@neocomp92]

Yes, girls of colour should undergo a rite of passage of being an adult, by committing heinous crimes in their youth... Somehow I'm not surprised if Moses agreed unironically that Reva is a role model

[@theunknowncommenter725]

A space nazi that hunts down a religious minority for a fascist government. Great role model right there. /s

[@RumplestiltskinGaming]

A big issue I have with this show, now that I've seen it all the way through, is how much time they wasted on Reva. Time that could have been better spent on Vader and, dare I say, Kenobi that the show's literally named after. Instead they wasted about half the show telling her story only to have her live in the end and most likely get her own show. I could have forgiven it a bit more if they were trying to tell her story only for her to die in the end. I think that would have made more sense. Rather than have her continue to live and get to tell more story. Remember the last time Disney made something between Episodes 3 and 4? They actually killed everyone at the end! Good times.

[@kitalalaris]

I respectfully disagree. They keep making up more and more jedi/almost jedi characters who "survived" Order 66, so many in fact that by now the original trilogy makes exactly zero sense. Like, what even was the point of the purge in the first place by now? I don't think her story would be good even if handled by Lucas and Filoni together. Because no matter how well written or compellingly it was told, it would still be a lorebreaking shit show of a fanfiction. Plus I hate characters like Reva and the people who write them, we have too many of both.

[@wplains]

She’s the black female character so obviously she’s the most important. Why do people watch this crap?

[@Scripture-Man]

It's because modern Hollywood is OBSESSED with bitch characters and will do everything they can to get bitches on screen as much as possible - even in family shows like Star Wars where it's hideously inappropriate. Star Wars used to be WHOLESOME and would NEVER have such vile characters in it!

[@kitalalaris]

@@Scripture-Man In fairness there are arguably more vicious characters, the glaring and damning part here is the fact that up to this point none of them were ever presented to us as anything other than villains. The truly evil thing here is the fact that they are presenting us a villain and claiming she's a hero, expecting us to believe that just because they say it that will make it true.

[@Scripture-Man]

@@kitalalaris I've never seen such a vile woman in Star Wars before, with a man's hairstyle, swaggering around like some kind of "tough guy". It's just grotesque gender bending. Leia and the others were soft and feminine, like a woman ought to be. Women don't get in physical fights like men, it's totally wrong and shouldn't be in a kids' show.

[@ukmediawarrior]

I agree with everything Gary says other than one thing. Vader had nothing to do with the construction of the Death Star so him dying would not have stopped it being built.

[@aeroprime3322]

Yeah that was all Palpatine's little vanity project.

[@2dextreem]

Actually, Vader was the one responsible for capturing Leia while she was smuggling the Death Star plans to the Rebels. He's the reason she was onboard the Death Star and so it was convenient for Tarkin to demonstrate the weapon on her home planet while she was forced to watch. If Vader had been dead for 10 years, who knows how things could've played out differently?

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@@2dextreem they didn’t need him though

[@ukmediawarrior]

@@2dextreem True, but either way the DS would have been built and used on someone. You don't build a super weapon like that and never use it, you have to show people what it can do so they fear it. Vader had nothing to do with the DS itself.

[@madot09]

Love how Kathleen Kennedy was speaking through Ewan MacGregor’s Kenobi praising Lela

[@damoncurrie7103]

Yeah the meta commentary in the first episode, she's important as he is. We all love Leia she was a supporting character who is the main character in the Star wars saga I always thought it was Luke but her father George says this Anakin so I'll take his word on it. I remember somebody from the Disney executives saying Luke was just holding the door for Leia

[@AtaTheKin]

Ben Kenobi: That boy is our last hope. Yoda: No, there is another. It seems as if since esb, the movie everyone loves, yoda was already saying to obi wan that Leia was as important as Luke

[@cochranesimon]

I always like your sign-off Gary-you're a true gent for thanking those that might not like your content (impossible as that is), it shows style, it shows class, it shows decency in a world where respect is hard found. Keep up the good-fight my friend!

[@IM-xs3uv]

Gary's sign-off was part of why I originally subbed. It's classy and feels genuine.

[@factsoveremotions6035]

Gary is a good dude. Why I subscribed too.

[@cochranesimon]

@@factsoveremotions6035 He's a top bloke! I really appreciate his commentary, and I say that in acknowledgement of watching a fair few of the others' channels. Critical Drinker is great too, and both of them are substantially different from one another, where their 'Venn diagram' overlaps is with regards their ability to articulate something cogent and accurate. To be honest, I have way too many channels I follow and worked out I really need to sift the wheat from the chaff and will likely manage that by deciding who hits the nail on the head in a succinct and concise manner, before who among them just like hearing their own voices. Quality over quantity, every time!

[@cochranesimon]

@@IM-xs3uv He has a humility about him which speaks to the worth of his character-it makes him trustworthy and reliable. His thoughts and clearly enlightened on subjects he clearly knows a lot about. Imagine if we all managed to do this-we'd be in friggin' paradise already! Better to defer to those who know best … just a shame there are so many pretenders these days.

[@factsoveremotions6035]

@@cochranesimon Thank You Simon!!! How’s Merry Old England, my friend?

[@Vaelosh466]

As much as I know the answer to this, I have to ask why they decided to shoehorn kid Leia into a story about Obi-Wan when that clearly doesn't mesh, when they could have easily gone with a story about Bail Organa. Assuming they could get Jimmy Smits for a full show, he's a good actor that is charismatic enough to be the lead in a show and he's Hispanic so it would even fit The Message. It could be cool to watch how someone that's not a Jedi or badass bounty hunter, but is politically connected and wealthy, operates in the Star Wars universe to rescue his daughter. They could use the opportunity to explore more how Bail Organa became a financier of the Rebel Alliance, and set some storylines in motion for another show about Leia deciding to leave her life of luxury to join the Rebels.

[@Fantasyremix]

They would greenlight that series and he would take a backseat to his wife, a black bounty hunter, and a Muslim Jedi.

[@AmateurHourWithAlex]

Feeling bad For Hayden who was looking forward to reprise his role but being met with being pissed in his face…

[@Maximus21x]

Both Hayden and Mark Hammil now share that sad bond.

[@bentonrp]

I'm sure he expected no less from these traitors at Disney. The dude knows all about being handed the most alluring bait, but having been offered nothing at all by the end.

[@juhata9068]

@@Maximus21x The Skywalkers truly are cursed, like goddamn. Genuinely feel bad for Hayden.

[@Dripx-]

Regardless of how the series did overall, many people loved Hayden's performance in the mini-series. This is exacerbated after the last episode which showed a range of emotions when only showing half his face (as well as his body movements). I mean, there have been bad movies with good actors. Most people aren't even on the Hayden hate train anymore even prior to the mini-series.

[@mark-lk9vi]

Write it then, in the comment section. If you guys think it can go better then go for it. Right here, in the replies.

[@StoicEye]

How can Disney get Star Wars so wrong, it practically writes itself. You have the setting, the characters, the lore and the canon. There's no problem introducing new character/lore/settings provided that they make sense i.e fits the pre established material or at the very least is thoroughly explained in relation to pre established canon like knights of the old republic. Otherwise you just wind up with plot holes, contrivances for contrivances sakes and all you wind up doing is breaking immersion. I always thought of star wars as a tapestry with each thread being a continuation and complementing the next. Don't know what happened in the last decade to change all this whether its some new fangled story telling style or placing themes over coherence but its not working for me anymore. Don't get me there having been some real gems like mando, rogue one, the clone wars animated series at its iterations like rebels and the bad batch but the duds are just to much. I feel there just to much of a disconnect between me and these new creators and I'm beginning to see the same trends in other franchises under the mouse's umbrella, pretty bleak. The rant of a disillusioned star wars fan.

[@frocat5163]

Exactly. Love or hate the old EU, at least the stories _fit_ the Star Wars universe. And anything new or out of the ordinary was explained. Thrawn made sense. Mara Jade made sense. Luke's search for Jedi students made sense. Even the Yuuzhan Vong made sense.

[@killroy1117]

There’s a lot of stupid people in positions of power in our world atm. Their shortsighted minds cannot comprehend anything besides making revenue in every situation they could possibly be it family or stranger they’d all be damned for their profits. Greedy pigs.

[@NathanCassidy721]

Because they are unremarkable narcissists who fail upwards.

[@NatoHoro]

We can all blame "the message"

[@sergiocampanale3882]

No...it was simply taken over by people who thought it was all pathetic and worthless and held the values it espoused in scorn so they set about to destroy it and they have .... Part of a wider destruction of Western history, culture and institutions now culminating in the transformation of it's leading light, the USA, into a Third World Dictatorship in an irretrievable nose spin from which it will never be able to pull out. Some may see this is as a crime and a disaster ... Others as liberation and triumph ... It all depends where you stand.

[@Briansgate]

Remember, When Obi hit Vader, his mask came off. When Obi his a stormtrooper, his saber just bounced off him. Therefore, Stormtrooper armor is stronger than Darth Vader's armor.

[@limpetcarre1139]

And yet when Stormtroopers are hit by blasters they drop like flies, so I always wondered why they even bothered wearing that armor, as it doesn't appear to give them any more protection than the rebels who are just wearing clothing.

[@tokitsuka2267]

But did he think about Leia while hitting the stormtrooper?

[@fm_0523]

And a Stormtrooper was defeated by a slap on the helmet, therefore a slap should be able to destroy Darth Vader's armor easily.

[@PassanCat]

Remember in Episode 1, when Qui Gon Jin used his light saber to open a metal door and melted through a blast door? Demonstrating how dangerous and unstoppable Jedi can be. I guess it is the doors fault for not walking it off like the strong diverse female character.

[@misternibbles7426]

Wow the "on brand for Disney quote" was a hardcore burn.

[@Archphoenix1]

its just so mind blowing how people can watch this and be " amazed" and " cry". Its like these twitter people live in a different dimension, or are just americans who dont know what quality means anymore, because there hasnt been any quality made in america for decades

[@readypetequalmers7360]

Quality is a big one I'd say... just look at the marvel universe the story went nuts and the fans only talk about how great it was...when you dig deeper into what was great it comes down to flashy graphics and references to various situations.

[@snakedogman]

It's a bit like what you see in cults (or religions), where people are emotionally manipulated into caring extremely about made up nonsense. Wokeness is a cult/religion.

[@BrokenSIMGlasses]

I do keep seeing post that titles are "Kenobi made this scene so much better" or "Kenobi fixed this plot hole" Its like Multiverse of Madness all over again

[@sandrothenecromancer6810]

Just consume product and don't think about it...

[@phonepunk7888]

I’m starting to think the whole man babies thing was more or less accurate. That was just them accurately describing their fan base.

[@gixergs]

It's amazing how when armed with a weapon that could cleave someone in two with an effortless swipe they insist on just stabbing them, especially given the ineffectual results that Vader himself has witnessed. Just go up or down after you've stabbed them then no amount of dramatic wincing is going to help. Then again this is the same people that waste time trying to blast a hole in a door when it could of been instantly sliced open with a light sabre

[@iwantgoals1566]

I think Disney is the worst thing to have happened to SW which is baffling considering the fact that they’re the ones that made Clone Wars and Rebels. Maybe they thrived in the pre Kennedy environment?

[@piratekingthaszar7912]

If a lightsaber is hot enough to melt through a blast door like a hot knife through butter, getting stabbed should cause the victim to explode from the fluids immediately vaporizing and rapidly expanding.

[@tokitsuka2267]

Oh I dont know about that, have you seen Darth Maul? Poor Guy got literaly cut in half and survived. x) Too bad Vader didnt use his magic trick of evaporating characters he stabs, if I remember corectly thats what happened with Obi Wan after he accepted his fate.

[@raveneyes7191]

haha right

[@rowdienights9136]

@@tokitsuka2267 the first, “number one bs,” was maul coming back.

[@jamesbeam5373]

4:48 Obi-Wan one needed to think about a 10-year-old girl to get his Mojo back seems on point for Disney 😂🤣

[@maxav1-exe]

This isn’t anime or Austin Powers Disney

[@davidstai9689]

I appreciate your usage of the Critical Drinker's "The Message" moment. A nice little homage.

[@reek4062]

manchildren like to copy each other instead of making valid arguments for their opinions.

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

“If they didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have standards at all” As a former owner of a comic book shop, you probably noticed a trend more than a decade ago among modern writers: they have absolute no moral compass and it shows through their characters.

[@Peagaporto]

Ehat worries me is, how did this get normalized?

[@JuanLopez-cq1pu]

@@Peagaporto simple the early warnings were dismissed by the defenders as the slippery slope fallacy so those who saw where we going simply gave up trying to warn people and unless there is a crash nothing is going to get better

[@BigSeanH]

@@Peagaporto 40 years of communist subversion and the complete degradation of Christian values (I'm Atheist, but we need Christian morality to maintain a liberal society)

[@jung.o.2080]

Might be a nitpick but I really disliked the fight between Obi and Anakin in the flashback. Anakin was never spiteful with his master. They were extremely competitive but Anakin would just throw clever quips to keep Obi Wan on his toes. I think hammering the Anakin is turning darkside thing was too on the nose for those scenes

[@miketocci]

It's not a nitpick. Brain dead Disney fans love to attempt to discredit criticisms by labeling them as such but when those criticisms number in the dozens or even hundreds, then they are much more than nitpicks. They add up to a critique of what amounts to garbage. You're absolutely right in your criticism so don't let them doubt the impact of what you know to be true.

[@Scripture-Man]

Yeah, not a nitpick, it's the entire personality of the central character! Considering this show had one basic purpose - to seamlessly flow between episodes 3 and 4. All they had to do was watch those 2 films and get the character right, and they FAILED!

[@kylestephens4133]

The best part of this show is that you can pretend it never happened, which is what I recommend you do. Just go from Ep III to IV as Lucas intended.

[@AaronSongz6]

You know, some people like the original trilogy, some like the prequels, and I can understand either. But at the very least, you have to acknowledge that those six movies created a action, good characters and environment. And as soon as Disney's version started, it was clear Disney is much more interested in wokeness. And that was SEVEN GODDAMN YEARS AGO!

[@DragonQueen78]

Amen.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@chasehedges6775]

Indeed

[@chasehedges6775]

Revenge Of The Sith is still the best Star Wars film

[@domx7zero157]

I don't like forced wokeness either but yall are seeing it everywhere, you're ruining your own enjoyment

[@GeekOwtLowd]

So... not only do they invent this idea that being run through with a lightsaber is survivable, but they do it 3 separate times in this series? Holy crap writing. If the saber is centered, it would melt your spine. Not to mention it would burn thru organs and cauterize the wounds, leaving a hole in your body. You could only survive something like that with immediate surgeries and a long recovery. So dumb.

[@Crosis2814]

Yet Qui-gon Jinn.... A MASTER JEDI MIND YOU.... NOT A SELF TAUGHT YOUNGLING LIKE REVA.... got stabbed in the stomach by Maul and game over for him.... but hell.... anyone else and a day later they are back on two feet back to killing people....

[@magic.k6337]

But remember they have force healing now... lol what a joke of a show.

[@garym6315]

Disney Star Wars = bacta = no-one is ever REALLY gone.

[@MachineMan-mj4gj]

In attack of the clones, Obi-wan was grazed-- Not stabbed, dismembered, or anything like that--- GRAZED by Dooku in the arm and leg and we was out of commission. Lightsabers are supposed to be one of the deadliest melee weapons in the galaxy and what makes Jedi and Sith so feared in battle. And these chucklefucks are shrugging off mortal wounds like they're Ahnold in Last Action Hero.

[@philstaab7420]

Technically lightsabers would evaporate all the water in your body and the intense rapid pressure buildup would make you explode. So stabbing someone would be the most gruesome way to kill a person... but they gotta make it kid friendly shame.

[@dgame1698]

How tf does Leia act less emotional when Kenobi dies in Episode 4 than Luke...her message to Kenobi in E4 is given in a way that she's never met him. Why does Luke never mention Reva? Why does Disney not care about cannon???

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Probably because they want to remake the original trilogy.

[@joecollas9942]

@@GeraltofRivia22 I was thinking that

[@daxtertalon4]

@@joecollas9942 Ahh sithspit now I'm thinking it too.

[@allenluce4070]

Because the mouse needs its cheese.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

Luke never saw reva lol.

[@HerrEllsworth]

Another plot hole: how is it that the rebel ship evading the Star Destroyer can't jump to light-speed while the smaller craft carrying Kenobi can? I'm guessing they couldn't have used that ship or its engine parts???

[@ericmiller5603]

I also thought it was dumb for Vader to say, “Have you come to destroy me?” when they took their time showing Vader disembarking and approaching Obi-Wan over a considerable distance.

[@reggieziet]

sharp

[@scionofdorn9101]

It's lazy writing because it's just prequel rehash dialogue. The LucasFilm Story Group is full of incompetent, plagiaristic hacks. "You brought him here to kill me!" "Have you come to destroy me, Obi-Wan?" LSG Translation: "We can't think of anything more important or meaningful for them to say in this important showdown because we suck at this."

[@robertsleeth861]

Yeah, Vader came after HIM.

[@Taojas]

Disney SW -writers- hacksters : "Member? Member when Vader said that? Member?" "Ooooh yeah! I member!"

[@killhimnotme9129]

Not really, he came to vader? And vader could probably sense his intentions

[@markjones8417]

OMG... I JUST FIGURED OUT HOW RIVA SURVIVED GETTING RUN THROUGH WITH THE LIGHT SABER A SECOND TIME. IT WENT THROUGH THE FIRST SABER HOLE WHEN SHE WAS A YOUNGLING.

[@theeffete3396]

I think it was just her black privilege.

[@Arekushisukun]

Wow, I can't find a flaw in your logic

[@dadian803]

I think it was just her being black. Black and being a wahmen.

[@nautilaz]

@@dadian803 Yep, that's now plot armor.

[@DanDease]

You should be a writer for Disney...genius!

[@joejackson3091]

"We needed a series to tell what happened between Episodes 3 and 4." NOTHING happened between Episodes 3 and 4. That's literally what "hiding" and "laying low" mean. Not traipsing around exposing the very people you're trying to hide to the empire and, worse, their father who didn't know they existed. Such idiocy. Everyone involved with this show should be fired and banned from ever producing TV or movies again.

[@theunknowncommenter725]

The most that happened to Obi-Wan between three and four, was being a vigilante hero to people on tatooine without trying to expose himself as a Jedi, watching over Luke, training with master Qui-Gon, and watching him age from Ewan to Alec because of the twin suns. NONE of which happened in this bait and switch nonsense of a series.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

@@theunknowncommenter725 yep, the show should've either been a contemplative character study or an anthology of Obi Wan helping people on Tatooine over the years.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

@@GeraltofRivia22 Agreed, with all three comments. If they really felt it necessary (though it isn't...) they could even have shoehorned in the inquisitors and Reva on Tattoine if they were that desperate. I do wonder if chunks of Kenobi ideas were substituted into Boba Fett (living in the desert with Tuskans?) when they decided to swap Luke & Leia's importance. But smart writing could have seen Kenobi trying to Robin Hood his way through a series, mis-directing and evading the inquisitors, (perhaps even Vader, again if the key jangling is needed of just an appearance), taking dodgy jobs in space ports & cantinas to get info on the inquisitors mission and whereabouts (its a whole planet, after all), communing with Qui-Gon for advice/guidance, or even Yoda, to know how to allow Qui-Gon to cross over (hell there's a whole episodes worth of story potential just in that). It could have been Deadwood meets Cowboy Bebop meets Robin Hood/Zorro meets Ghost, in space.

[@stonewick0073]

I can't agree more. This is really getting out of hand

[@ZenMonkeyGod]

That's a lot of words that only really say, "MY ENTIRE MORTAL LIFE DEPENDS SOLELY ON STAR WARS ADHERING TO STRICTER LOGIC THAN ROCKET SCIENCE! IF IT DOESN'T, SO HELP ME, I WILL POUT!"

[@Pootaatooo]

The biggest insult made by the nothing burger that is Reva was killing The Grand Inquisitor with a fucking lightsaber. She kills the guy so adept in saber combat that he can figure out who trained you by dueling you in lightsaber combat, with a fucking lightsaber

[@itsheresy]

I LOVED how they tied this into Last Jedi by having a Star Destroyer do a slow chase of another ship... I would have preferred them to run out of fuel to complete the circle, but I am glad that the Star DESTROYER's lasers weren't able to obliterate a small crappy frigate. Awesome writing.

[@HolsovanUltimate]

Isnt that also a new hope though

[@joeclaridy]

I mean a Star Destroyer has over 120 turbolasers/cannons, 3 TIE Squadrons and a tractor beam. But a sublight freighter was able to outrun it?

[@joeclaridy]

@@HolsovanUltimate no they actually got captured because the Empire was actually competent.

[@trigunfox2325]

@@HolsovanUltimate Nah Han let himself get caught in the tractor beam so he wouldn't die in the chase. Not this bs hours in a star destroyer chase and no dies or are really even worried. From now on lightsabers don't kill,Vader is weak Obi Wan is a enabling murderer. The cracks of Rome is wide open.

[@Jaco059]

@@trigunfox2325 no they were saying at the beginning of new hope the little frigate got boarded by the Star destroyer because it clearly couldn’t take the cannon fire and chose to be captured over destroyed. While in this episode it didn’t get destroyed or boarded in spite of being the same ships basically.

[@ChatBot1337]

The sad part is many viewers are simply interested in jangling keys. My brother called me yesterday just to tell me how cooooool Kenobi is/was. The lightsabers.. ohmigod. The rancor in Boba Fett.. ohmigod. Don't get me wrong, thats all well and good. But if the dialogue is crap, if lore is trampled for the sake of some onscreen glitter, I am not interested in the slightest. 'At last the circle is complete. When last we met, I was but the learner, now I am the master.. except for the two times we fought after I bacame Darth Vader and I still considered myself your student because I just loooooove you Obi Wobi.' You've got to be kidding me.

[@fm_0523]

Most Star War's fans only care about the brand now, not about the geniuinity of the story.

[@HungLikeScrat]

This show was literally the last reason I kept Disney+. I hoped it would be good, I wanted it to be, but it failed me for the last time. I canceled my subscription, and I hope millions more do the same.

[@thejuststuff9685]

What an amazing knee jerk reaction.

[@mezlabor]

Doubtful considering this has been Disney+ most streamed show.

[@Captain-J-Amadaeus]

@@mezlabor just because a lot of people watched it doesn’t mean that it was popular.

[@midnight-2021]

@@Captain-J-Amadaeus exactly! Alot of people including myself watched the sequel trilogy, especially the Force Awakens, and gradually lost more and more people as the trilogy went on and know this Kenobi stuff will really drop off in Star Wars fans from Star Wars past.

[@TheNightman.]

@@mezlabor Of which they refuse to show the statistics for, having 3 people watch D+ and 2 of them watching this garbage makes it most streamed, yet the numbers blow like this series do

[@wherermytacos5903]

how the fuck has it fLOpPeD if its the most watched Disney plus show ever

[@pandafire21-123]

If you look at only numbers. It flopped because the show was bad. So many plot conveniences and holes to be seen.

[@wherermytacos5903]

@@pandafire21-123 you don't know what a flop means do you

[@pandafire21-123]

@@wherermytacos5903 It means if the show failed or was unsuccessful and in the sense of providing a good story, it flopped Sure it made the views, like every other movie made by Disney. In your logic you could call Rise of Skywalker a huge hit because it hit numbers… but it really was a flop and there isn’t another way to put it.

[@wherermytacos5903]

@@pandafire21-123 rise of Skywalker was horrendous but you wouldn't call it a flop because it was a success at the box office

[@pandafire21-123]

@@wherermytacos5903 Eh I guess

[@saladinbob]

The best thing that can happen right now is to allow Disney to burn Star Wars to the ground, creating a worthless product that someone else can then come in and pick up and do something interesting with.

[@clogs4956]

Disney’s take needs a stake through the heart - a Star Destroyer through a Death Star? - and sympathetic resurrection by people who care.

[@TimeWaster_Elite]

My first act as the owner of the Star Wars franchise would be to publicly nullify every single Star Wars product that Disney created, minus Mandalorian. No actual fan counts any of this woke tripe as canon regardless, but it would be a good symbolic gesture to publicly disown these abominations. Oh, and whatever I made after that, I would 100% ensure that John Boyega had another shot at playing a legitimate role in the new films instead of being whored out as some sort of comic relief. What they did to his character is inexcusable; there was so, SO much potential that was wasted there.

[@olivercrespo2329]

@@Chris_Thorndyke maybe, but maybe it’ll be like a Bethesda doom situation, that franchise was king dead until a talented creator picked it up and resurrected it.

[@danielnaumoski900]

That will be me. I’ll buy it

[@reek4062]

@@TimeWaster_Elite better nullify the prequels too

[@brandondrake4609]

I ended watching the season finale because the rest of my family was watching it at the time. Every time I pointed out something dumb they yelled at me and said why can’t you just enjoy it or Star Wars is a dumb kids show it doesn’t have to make sense. And all I’m thinking to myself is if it’s a kids show why are you adults watching it🙄.

[@readypetequalmers7360]

That's part of the problem that is helping these companies a long. People try to ignore the real intention of these films and lack of story. They just want to see flashy images of characters on screen or they out right support companies/people trying to subvert cultural norms in political warfare.

[@GRAG3R]

People are morons.

[@jeff330]

The last episode was actually good. Maybe both sides need to see eachothers perspective. You'd have to be pretty bitter to think the last episode was as bad as the rest of the series.

[@thatdudeyouknowlukacsina2043]

I thought the show was pretty good except I didn't like reva as a character and honestly thought she should've been killed off because she knows everything.

[@Efgand0894]

Ah, the mentality of consume product even if it is a pile of garbage. It's sad

[@stevenmcreynolds4970]

How to spot a narcissist writer: Character destroys things I don’t care about, but character spares something I do care about = redeemed character. The true redemption arc would be a willing submission to justice, some expression of remorse, and then change demonstrated over time. The power of her arc would have been expecting justice but receiving mercy, then living differently. Narcissists can’t ever admit fault, though, so we have the “I can’t hurt someone who I empathize with, so I’m a good person” plot instead. Too bad.

[@iwantgoals1566]

It’s like Hitler being called a good person cause he didn’t murder white people.

[@BigSeanH]

They literally had Reva say she wanted "justice" when she meant "revenge"... They don't make any distinction between the two, they don't understand the difference. They have no moral compass at all actually, they don't know the difference between right and wrong.

[@BigSeanH]

Basically, they think revenge is the same as justice, and "not taking revenge" is the same as "mercy". It's a twisted mess of anti-humanity.

[@schwaaard]

@@BigSeanH Nah, man. Don'tcha know? When you stop torturing a town of people (a la Scarlet Witch), that's sacrifice! ...I'm just surprised Obi Wan didn't say, "The galaxy will never know what you gave up for it." --Which I don't understand, 'cause he gushed over Leia for just existing a whole helluva lot.

[@Richard-oo6pc]

This show was written by people with broken moral compasses therefore their "hero" is actually evil herself. They have no idea how to write morally good characters.

[@DCBChump]

"Seems on brand for Disney." That statement almost broke me. 🤣

[@pixelwolfeman1928]

The rematch and the re-rematch were just so poorly done and amateurish. Nevermind how they copied Rebels with the mask scene and copied an entire final level of fallen order. Unbelievable really. I find their lack of creativity disturbing.

[@reek4062]

amateurish is actually a good thing

[@danielrichwine2268]

Back in the day, you would be afraid to miss a spin-off like this for fear you would miss some important link in the canon. Now you try to miss stuff like this so that the cannon you're aware of isn't broken.

[@reek4062]

Back in the day there were just three good movies. It was concluded.

[@brycemurphy3005]

I just noticed that Anakin hunting the younglings didn't have his long hair from episode 3

[@GustEdgeOfficial]

That’s probably why they had him wear the hood in the dark

[@Good_Boy_3000]

Obi-Wan Kenobi: A canon-breaking Disney+ Star Wars cash grabbing "story" Starring the laziest written villain, stereotypical angry black woman, who don't need no man, making plans that are either complete reaches in logic, or are just pulled straight out of her ass, that gets "redeemed" by the end of the story. A story where a youngling survived Operation Knight fall, got stabbed by Lord Vader, become an Imperial Inquisitor, sneak attacked the Grand Inquisitor, a former Jedi Temple Guard who's species is known for their hypersensitive hearing, and at minimum, had the rank of a Jedi Knight. After hilariously losing to Darth Vader, getting stabbed AGAIN, she finds the idiotic holo-message of Bail mentioning Owen and "The Children", possibly knowing who they truly are, despite only a handful of people even knowing. Reeeva heading to Tattooine to kill Luke for some fucking reason, Beru not making any goddamn sense, shenanigans ensue, resulting in 3rd Sista standing over an innocent child who did dick-all in this show, wanting to kill him apparently to avenge her slain family, even though, she seemed to be A-okay working with the people who keep their corpses like taxidermy trophies. But all is forgiven, because she "SaVeD" Luke, via not killing him. Darth Reva then cried to Obi-Wan, viewing herself as a failure and no better than Darth Vader, then Kenobi spat in the face of anyone with an iota of moral fiber and an IQ above negative one hundred by saying she didn't fail her family, and she's nothing like Darth Vader. The whole Leia-knowing-Obi-wan-Kenobi plot hole is only slapped with a sticker saying "No one must know, or it could endanger us both". To those who say Star Wars is dead, you're wrong. Star Wars was brutally raped and killed, resurrected with Sith Alchemy, beaten within an inch of it's undead life, and mutilated beyond recognition. Kathleen Kennedy can go fuck herself with Rey and Reva's lightsaber for all I care. Dave, I'm sorry, but unless I hear nothing but good things about the Ahsoka series, I will not watch it, even at gunpoint.

[@garym6315]

That whole thing of her hearing "the children" and instantly knowing that a former jedi had an illicit affair and two offspring is insane. Its almost as if she was supposed to die in episode 5 but Kennedy demanded she be shoehorned in to episode 6. Somehow he survived, somehow she got to Tatooine while Ben is still trying to outrun the star destroyer, somehow she knew about Luke. I get the feeling that too often in this show the writer seemed ink that because we know certain details about Skywalker that the characters must know too.

[@freddiestinson1117]

At this point I'm losing faith in Ashoka being any good and I also fear that the Mandaloran may be in trouble too because it's looking like KK is still in charge after all.

[@frankpinmtl]

Important points you missed: In a New Hope - Leia's message; "You served my father during the Clone wars..." How about "Obi Wan - you saved me as a little girl..." Nope. Nothing. Funny - Leia had a greater connection with Obi Wan, going on this adventure with him, big hugs, the whole nine yards. In a New Hope she sees him get cut down by Vader and it barely registers... On getting stabbed. Reva: Check, good to go. Grand Inquiz: Yep, also good to go. Qui Gon: Not so much. Pure plot armour.... Additionally: Chasing the frigate with everyone. Vader: Stay on Kenobi - he's all that matters. What Grand Inq should have said: So why the fcuk did you let him go a couple of episodes ago???? Kathleen Kennedy: Because we have to make 6 episodes.

[@katyty1496]

Or Leia could have just said "Obi Wan please help!" I mean, when you have such an important, life changing experience with another person, I don't think you'll need to remind them "Remember me? Remember how you saved me all those times?? No? Oh, well maybe you remember working with my dad then."

[@allyouneedtoknow8135]

Tbf how much would you care if that aunt you haven't seen since you were 6 and only saw like 3 days total died? Sure stuff happened but 3 days isn't much compared to 20y

[@clogs4956]

@@allyouneedtoknow8135 Leia is supposed to be 10 here and has just been involved in lots of plot (and that’s a generous descriptor). It’s not like Obi-Wan is an aunt she met once for tea in a drawing room.

[@frankpinmtl]

@@allyouneedtoknow8135 "That Aunt" that saved your precocious life as a child when YOU WERE FCUKING KIDNAPPED and happens to be a one of the last remaining Jedi, who you got introduced to the Rebellion with, who knows your Royal parents more than casually, who you saw shoot and kill people to save her, who knows who your real parents are and told you about them... ...did you even watch the episodes?

[@frankpinmtl]

@@katyty1496 Wouldn't something like "Obi-Wan, it's Leia. I'm sorry, you saved me once and I need you again. You're our only hope" But I guess George Lucas couldn't see how badly Kathleen Kennedy would fcuk this up, all those many years ago...

[@pederhalvorsen2289]

The plot-holes, memberberries, violations of canon in this episode had me hollering in rage. From now on, I will not acknowledge any Star Wars as canon if it's a Disney product, and that includes the Mandalorian. Episodes 1-6 and Clone Wars are the only Star Wars canon I will EVER acknowledge again. F*** OFF DISNEY!!!

[@spritemon98]

I'm surprised you weren't like this during episode 8 and 9

[@jojonerdz5258]

What other properties, those are the only that exist, what's disney star wars?

[@C-M-E]

I tried finishing this series on Sunday, having fallen asleep several times between episodes 2 and 6. Essentially I just watched 1 and 6 with snippets of the rest, and I feel my time was better spent sleeping through it. Nuff said.

[@valenwood6299]

Yeah I stopped watching after episode 3 Was absolutely an abomination

[@MrTrekFanDan]

I’m SO GLAD you watched the pain and suffering so I didn’t have to. …and at the same time I’m sorry you did, because now I’m deeply saddened for both of us.

[@thejuststuff9685]

Taking someone else's word for something doesn't qualify you for having an opinion

[@MuchWhittering]

Maybe you should watch the show for yourself instead of just blindly following what other people say.

[@TheNightman.]

@@MuchWhittering Or maybe they can save themselves the brain cell death by watching reviewers accurately sum up what anyone who isn't brain damaged knew from the start. You want to talk about blindly following? Stop doing what Disney tells you boy, stfu

[@MrTrekFanDan]

@@thejuststuff9685 You can easily tell the younger fans, from the old timers. The young just eat and swallow whatever their fed and call it yummy, the old timers actually give a shit, and are sick of what Disney is dishing out. I am VERY familiar with Star Wars canon. I no longer waste my time with Disney pissing in our faces. And I wait and watch other people as versed as myself to give me some glimmer of hope - which I already knew will NEVER COME as long as Disney is driving with their agenda’s. The same goes for Star Trek as well , 90% Moronic Mutilating Shit, 10% accidental blind luck.

[@MrTrekFanDan]

@@MuchWhittering You can easily tell the younger fans, from the old timers. The young just eat and swallow whatever their fed and call it yummy, the old timers actually give a shit, and are sick of what Disney is dishing out. I am VERY familiar with Star Wars canon. I no longer waste my time with Disney pissing in our faces. And I wait and watch other people as versed as myself to give me some glimmer of hope - which I already knew will NEVER COME as long as Disney is driving with their agenda’s. The same goes for Star Trek as well , 90% Moronic Mutilating Shit, 10% accidental blind luck.

[@BeepBopBoop303]

Qui gon has got to be pissed that you can just walk off a stab through the chest now

[@Arrowhead1972]

Han Solo as well..🤷

[@BeepBopBoop303]

@Someguy136 I didn't realize the grand inquisitor or Darth maul were female

[@ronnietexan]

Reva surviving being run through a second time is easy to explain, here goes. When she was a youngling and was stabbed with the light saber it merely cauterized the wound, (young Anakin, "1:1,000,000 shot," Skywalker had missed all her vital organs because of the way she was standing, or something,) leaving a perfectly round hole, (with having killed a lot of children and women by then and Anakin forgetting his charging cable, the saber was on

[@marychocolatefairy]

Excellent point! It's canon, after all, that his lightsaber does not have a good battery (see 1994 Energizer Bunny Darth Vader ad). lol.

[@MiguelGutierrez-vs9zu]

What makes me sad is seeing people actually cheering for the subpar product and giving more excuses to KK and her crew to keep destroying this franchise (Few, but very loud with the help of Disney). Messing with Kenobi has been the ultimate sin from Kennedy's crew. I actually enjoyed the Mandalorian S1 and S2 and because of that, I was willing to give Disney's Star Wars a chance after the horrible sequels. How much will they be retconning the lore in the Ashoka series? That's the question now.

[@dimitriwarchief301]

No Not her

[@MundaneThingsBackwards]

It doesn't make me sad. Accelerate the failures until Disney loses another cool billion and a half IN STREAMING ALONE within a quarter. I don't give a shit.

[@Number1OKYouTubeChannel]

HOW TO WRITE DISNEY STAR WARS in a nutshell: (1) Take a Great classic character; (2) Worsen them (like reduce their skills/greatness and/or accomplishments); (3) Reassign their Greatness to a new character (who should also be even Greater); (4) Use same plot points as original movies with the New & Greater characters. And, of course, the New Character must be female/intersectional, because, you know, the force is female or whatever. Examples: Rey kills Palpatine, not Annakin/Luke; Reva teaches Vader how to track the Millennium Falcon; Reva can easily change from the dark side, unlike Vader; Kid Leia inspires Obi Wan how to commune with Qui Gon (I saw that coming in the first episode), Yoda doesn't teach him; the list goes ON AND ON. The worse thing is simply that these New Characters are poorly written into scripts filled with mind-numbing plot holes. A simple way to think of it: When watching Kathleen Kennedy Star Wars, Remember the "BUT FOR RULE." It goes like this: "But for [NEW CHARACTER], [OLD CHARACTER] would have failed." Perhaps "THE RULE OF BUT FOR" is a better name in the context of Star Wars.

[@launchpadmcquack4043]

It's baffling how they managed to make something so terrible. It had to have been intentional. There's no way someone could have read the script and thought "This is awesome, people are gona love this!"

[@XRPriest777]

LOL

[@BigSeanH]

Have you seen the comments section on clips of the show? There are a lot of young kids making every excuse possible to like it.

[@launchpadmcquack4043]

@@BigSeanH I find myself wondering if they even watched the same show. 😂 I mean, there's some pretty cool moments that really shine when you isolate them from the rest of the show, especially in the final episode. Like the moment when Obi Wan wrecked Vader's mask and you see Anakin. I've since found out it was basically ripped off from Rebels, but I haven't actually watched that, so originally I thought it was a stroke of genius with the way they mixed Hayden's voice with the AI James Earl Jones voice. If you ignore most of everything else in the series and imagine that scenario as one where that was when Obi Wan actually found out Vader was Anakin, it really would have elevated that scene to a whole new level. There were a couple of other awesome scenes from that fight as well, but it was all hamstrung by the insanely bad writing leading up to that confrontation. And then for Obi Wan to suddenly just turn and walk away was the most dumb thing ever.

[@BigSeanH]

@@launchpadmcquack4043 I don't like it at all... They never should have fought. Vader should never lose if they fight. If he did lose Obiwan should never let him live. and that kind of damage to his suit would have kill Vader anyway.

[@launchpadmcquack4043]

@@BigSeanH Yeah. In the wider context of the show, it's all garbage. Even from the start. It was still hard not to watch it though. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion. 😂

[@YoastKaBoom]

I don't care any more once realizing that Disney has a woke agenda for their products and services. Lots of great older movies and TV shows to watch.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

Boom! Yes. Talkies have been around for 100 years now. TV almost as long. There are millions upon millions of hours of entertainment out there, much of it good. Why do people feel the need to pay Disney to be fed a diet of watery shit when the alternative is (in the internet and express-delivery age, no less) the entire world's history of entertainment... Why Disney, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, BBC? Why sit passively waiting to be fed garbage, when its barely any effort to just open your eyes to the world...

[@AmrAbdeen]

same.. the 90's are full of great flicks

[@adriandiaz6379]

POC aren’t woke or political stop

[@pieter-basbeijer5781]

You are very wrong. Disney has NO woke agenda for their products and services. They have products and services for their woke agenda.

[@fosphor8920]

yeah exactly Bill! I didn't even watch the show, I'm just following the disaster from the side lines while watching old stuff, fan made stuff and anime haha

[@JerettOlson]

This is why Disney Star Wars is just bad fan fiction and not true Star Wars. That was one of the worst lightsaber fights I have ever seen.

[@PsychoRavager]

I gotta say. BladeRunner 2049 was actually pretty damn good. Having watched it time and time, again. The slow shots meant a lot to the narrative weight. The same cannot be said about Kenobi (Reva show).

[@nemnymeria7873]

Reva show did it to extend the runtime. For something that could end in 1 and a half hour movie xD

[@NicholasDeCola]

Yes classically shot film with emotion and direction . Kathleen Kennedy used toget george’s Lucas coffee no shit ..

[@hughmcgown]

I think the main mistake with 2049 was basing the story around a replicant instead of harrison ford, by making a character with no flaws or personality it was cool without any emotion, I think it would have been cool to start the film with harrison in exile with his dog then being called back into the city like Logan, it would have been higher stakes with his old age in a more advanced world, instead we get blade runner crystal skull where hes never quite in his movie and never quite passes the mantle so it just kind of makes you miss what it was.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

@@NicholasDeCola Imagine how the franchise would be going today if George wasn’t lazy and would have picked up his coffee himself.

[@madmarx3108]

People use the slow pace as a criticism but every frame of that film is art.

[@petaflop.]

using the drinkers 'message' clip was pure genius

[@royfokerpoker1802]

He always uses it now lol

[@mudbutton2]

I could go on about numerous other plot holes, such as: "Obi Wan we can't fly you and Leia to Alderaan as we only have this one ship to get the refugees out of here." Ship turns out to have a shuttle, which in turn has its own shuttle (all FTL capable and all able to avoid a star destroyer). Not to mention that said star destroyer crew don't think to blockade the ONE launch bay. 😆 Yes, the good guys always need a way out - but it's got to be able to suspend disbelief.

[@reek4062]

plot holes? You whine about Star Wars having plot holes?

[@ciege7486]

@@reek4062 um...yes? As you should in any media?

[@lastHERO22]

@@reek4062 you really thought you did something with that comment

[@r3b3lvegan89]

Disney** first off, not starwars, to any genuine fan of lucasfilm and starwars, it’s called Lucasfilm, not Disneyfilm, Disney went off the tracks when they bought George’s baby and that’s that. The biggest mistake George ever made was letting Disney make a dumpster fire out of his masterpiece. Same with Pirates, should’ve stopped at 3 or even 2. Greed and politics don’t belong in any cinema project.

[@theunknowncommenter725]

@@r3b3lvegan89 I thought pirates 4 and 5 were good. They should stop there though that

[@midnite22767]

Being old enough to remember watching SW first release in movie theaters, it saddens me that this beloved franchise has been so gutted of common sense, heart and soul. RIP Star Wars....

[@thomasmcray8195]

Yes I agree. I was six when we went to see it in theaters. Disney HAS, ruined this story!

[@dischargeconductor7305]

@@thomasmcray8195 I totally agree. Disney has now only employed woke idiots whos value system is so far off of the value system of the makers of the original. No wonder they write terrible stories.

[@larrytedmcbride]

You know, I could forgive the violation in continuity if they just presented a coherent and well portrayed story. If they wanted to make Reva a central part of the story, they should have put her and Obi-Wan together through most of the episodes. She could have been escorting him to Vader while both were pursued by bounty hunters or some such. Then have a scene where Obi-Wan saves her, which starts to change her heart. This would create a real audience connection to her because of our love for Obi-Wan. In the end, It’s Reva who faces off against Vader (to preserve the continuity) so that Obi-Wan can escape. Reva (Obi-Wan’s now redeeming-semi-padawan) manages to survive because of Obi-Wan’s influence. Boom, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Big fan of your rants and news reports. Keep it up!

[@tippylongdog1039]

Nice story and I agree, continuity is important but a good, well thought out plot, quality actors and a desire to uphold the IP's legacy is more important. Something that Disney can do but chose not to.

[@3173alejandramartz]

@@tippylongdog1039 this! This is what upsets me the most. They have the means to do great things and they CHOOSE not to. It makes no sense to me. They could even include all the wokeness they want to, in a way that is not so ... Ok, maybe is better they keep doing stuff like this, if they would do good projects, with a great cast, with well rounded characters, well thought plots, and respect for their IP, they could spread their ideology in a more effective way.

[@kuhanblock9380]

The people who chase them could be remnants of Death Watch who are out for Kenobi for all the trouble he caused on Madalore. There can be a scene where Obiwan talks about Satine

[@larrytedmcbride]

@@kuhanblock9380 Ahh, there you go. That sounds perfect. Reva would want to keep Obi-Wan alive for Vader so she would be doing all she could to protect him.That way we'd really get to see what Reva is capable of doing with the Dark Side of the Force.

[@reiswoodard6630]

I love how Obi - wans’ little escape shuttle has a hyperdrive so he can get back to Luke 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@IlyaDemidov]

Yep, he had a mothership for a detachable shuttle he used in Ep 2 and 3. But it's a fairy tale so you are supposed to not to think here. At. All. (Disney probably)

[@anuvisraa5786]

well that is reali star wars hey most star fighters have hyperdrives

[@darthbretticus9951]

I'm kinda convinced that Jar Jar is still secretly directing this it seems like light saber reflection is now the new lens flare 😬

[@sccur]

Hmmm the finale had more viewers than Mando Season 2 finale and Boba Fett finale. Not sure how that's a flop...

[@mr.battle20]

"Obi-Wan needed to think about a ten year-old girl in order to get his mojo back. Seems on brand for Disney." Genius. Sheer genius.

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

That IS the groomer mind set. Ezra Miller would be an excellent fit for current year Disney. He practiced that for years now in real life, with real girls. ... Multiple girls, if the rumors are true.

[@thlifethlife-cf1wc]

It seems Family Guy was ahead of the game with the 'casting' of Herbert as ol' Obi-Wan!

[@theunknowncommenter725]

Why Disney really hate males of all ages, is truly a mystery.

[@silentstorm5439]

This should’ve been about Darth Vader’s hunt for Jedi/Obi, and Obi doing his best to make sure no one finds out about Luke

[@isfbuster6733]

But Where's the diversity in that lol

[@lumbagoboi1649]

What??? Something that doesn't destroy cannon continuity or get diversity points???? Are you insane???

[@silentstorm5439]

@@lumbagoboi1649 They could make Obi gay for that sweet sweet diversity points

[@lumbagoboi1649]

@@silentstorm5439 those clowns might actually do that lol

[@tcook6759]

Loved it when you referred to a 10 year old girl being Disney’s answer to Bens mojo problems. Great take and love your channel.

[@rayneoftera]

I'm surprised no one else has brought it up, haha!

[@GuitarNinja91]

Yeah, he shouldn’t have worried about her being in danger at all. It’s not like the “10 year old girl” is the daughter of his former best friend and apprentice or anything. Idiot

[@kylerstorm9260]

he galavanted across the galaxy with her and she helped him get out of his funk and fine the will to live the fact that people like you keep obsessively bringing up her age/gender demonstrates that you’re one fixed on it. stop projecting your thoughts on other people

[@afreestate8466]

You know, a small stakes, Nancy Drew type adventure could actually work for establishing how Leia developed into the competent, strong willed leader/rebel we meet in a new hope. Maybe she learns of the evil of the empire and her adoptive fathers role in aiding the resistance. Maybe Bale wanted to keep her out of it, but she is a Skywalker, of course she's going to want in. I'm fine with making her a less reluctant hero than Luke. She grew up as Royalty and Bail is a wise and benevolent leader who would have instilled the value of public service in her. But no, let's make her an insufferable little know it all that was perfect and born to lead from birth.🤦‍♂️

[@corbinskywalker]

May the Farce be with Disney...Always

[@tyrantbossmedia2230]

My sequel trilogy and everything in between was covered in the Extended Universe before Disney make it "Legends". The Thrawn trilogy, Dark Empire comic book series, and the Jedi Academy trilogies are canon to me. It's the only thing that keeps me from wanting to smash my head into a wall.......and now...for the first time in 30 years....I will re-read the Thrawn Trilogy and try to recapture the magic that Disney and Katheen Kennedy have tried so very hard to destroy.

[@miketocci]

That's the best thing to do. I decided a while ago that all this Disney Star Wars junk was just that - junk. It's not from George Lucas and it's also not from anyone who gives a damn about Star Wars. Therefore it isn't really the same Star Wars that we grew up loving. It's just a giant cash grab by a humongous, soulless corporation that makes the Empire look like some pretty okay dudes. They'll never make me lose my love for Star Wars because I see through what they're doing and so do a lot of other fans who aren't willing to accept trash and say, "Thank you, can I have some more, Mr. Mouse?"

[@inquiringtardigrade960]

Spot on review. Can you imagine showing this to audiences in the 70’s and 80’s ?

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

They actually did. We are just older now. ... and we are not amused.

[@Urlastnerve]

You mean the 70’s and 80’s when the series just started and everyone was still trying to figure everything out in this universe and nobody understood any of the lore? Yea I think it would’ve went over just fine

[@skylarpresley2691]

Yea this and the Stormtrooper bumping his head on the wall are so damning similar... We really just grew up.. too bad star wars never had anything serious in it...

[@briansadler5225]

They would probably be amazed at the CGI and 4K picture and not care about the story.

[@dontgiveinfo]

nope. the world needed to dumb down and reeeei on social media for this to happen now

[@bas6628]

that crazy lady chased me with a light saber... Luke didn't know what a light saber was until a new hope