2020 Polygon Siskiu D7 Dual Suspension Mountain Bike from BikesOnline

Polygon is a name that comes up regularly in comments. Usually from my international viewers. Recently, I was contacted with the chance to ride a review bike for a few weeks. This video documents my impressions of their 2020 Polygon Siskiu D7 MTB. This bike fits in the void where there aren't many options for full suspension mountain bikes - pricing ~$1200-1300.
Overall, I'm impressed with the Siskiu D7 from Polygon. IMO, it is a decent and VERY smooth riding bike for the price. I also like that they have a dropper post equipped model for just a bit more.
Comment below with your thoughts on this bike. Is it a good value for the features to you?
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[@kevinmontoya7318]

Dang Kevin you just gave this bike the Kev central effect now everyone wants one

[@ramonreyes4900]

Lol, that was exactly my reaction. Watch the bike go up to 3k.

[@stolamal]

The space on rear triangle is for 29 wheels, propably to keep the price low they use the same rear triangle for all wheel sizes.

[@OugaBoogaShockwave]

exactly what i thought.

[@Mud9]

Usually its 29 or 27.5 plus or else it drops the bb low to go standard 27.5

[@kingpet46]

Probably for 27.5+ because my 27.5 stumpy has that large of a gap too n it's spec to fit plus tyre.

[@88Nikoli]

The medium has option of 27.5 or 29 , larger sizes 29 only and smaller 27.5 only

[@mattiasandersson3444]

Try build a reversed mullet.

[@timndel]

While I've never heard of this brand, it is refreshing to see that making a budget-priced full-suspension bike that is actually viable is possible. Hopefully, some of the bigger brand companies take note, and follow suit.

[@magicamika]

It should be about time thru axle frame, wheelset and fork to reduce price. Robust modern design, make it available rather than sticking to continue manufacturing and selling outdated bike designs.

[@Optable]

They make the bikes for 80% of those companies. GT, Marin, YT, Fezzari, Devinci, you name it!

[@ripper7x7]

Whoa I never clicked so fast, I bought this bike in December after shopping for months and even testing an Orbea hardtail for a week. This Bike is superb for the cost, I've only changed the grips and pedals. I'm really enjoying this bike, it is definitely an entry level full suspension, which is what I wanted but most bike shops here started at 2 grand or more. I think this bike is built for people who want to trail ride and hits the bumps and small jumps, I wouldn't go risking life or limb on it. Oh and thanks kevcentral, it was you that got me back into MTB, I took a hiatus when we had kids, now I'm old and on a budget, but mostly old.

[@EPRMoto]

How's it holding up?

[@nickgriffin4284]

As if I need any more pressure to buy one of these. They’ve been targeting me with ads on Facebook and Instagram. Heavily lol

[@XGaming1]

That’s so creepy how they do that.

[@bobbyhempel1513]

Me too.

[@jmcgowan1979]

I ordered mine today

[@headoverbars8750]

LOL, that's funny. I get those ads all the time to now. I thought it was because I was checking out polygon bikes a while ago.

[@ianrice1778]

Yup I even get them on my weather channel app. I want one but I'm not sure about it.

[@bonzobanana1]

Polygon is a brand of Insera Sena of Indonesia. They also own the Marin brand nowadays plus they are a big OEM supplier to many shop brands and larger brands. The Calibre Bossnut is a popular budget dual suspension bike in the UK made by Insera Sena. They also do some of the Halford's brand bikes in the UK. I believe they have done bikes for brands like Scott and Kona. If your bike has a made in indonesia sticker its probably Insera Sena as they are the major bike manufacturer in that country. I don't think there are any other major bike manufacturers there.

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

I am wrong, they do have full manufacturing.

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

This is a anomaly in the scheme of bike production and its only producing frames in 6061 aluminum. Until the public realizes CHINA is the ONLY place where 100 percent compete bikes can be made then your only purchasing through middlemen and assemblers. Get what you want but bikes if high quality come from China exclusively, and thats not going to change in your lifetime.

[@bonzobanana1]

@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 Yes it is difficult to build a bike without some Chinese made components especially at entry level prices but many bike factories in the far east are more than assemblers, they manufacture the frame and forks, sometimes the rims and lace the wheels themselves and Shimano has many factories outside China but in the far east. Also Taiwan (Republic of China) is different to mainland China (People's Republic of China), Taiwan are by far the best country for high quality components at mid-level prices. Even high end BMW cars have loads of electronics and components made in China, China is the workshop of the world. I think its important to understand factories in the far east do manufacture more of the bike than US and European brands which often import fully assembled bikes from the far east or just do assembly work. I think its fair to call Insera Sena a manufacturer but most US and European brands are really importers. The most important thing is Insera Sena are producing a quality frame and bike that undercuts the price of similar bikes made in other countries, they are providing perhaps the maximum quality vs price point currently and maybe minimising their profit in order to achieve higher market share for their brand. You may find in 3 years their prices are far less competitive.

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

This bike is only worth about 800 bucks compared with other brands offering a higher standard package from China direct suppliers. Its simply isnt a competitive price anymore. This channel has a major problem with current offers that exceed this level because of this bizarre anti China craziness that hasnt brought one job back to anyone. Its hilarious what is being offered to children in Europe vs what is shown on this channel. This style of middle end bike is in supermarkets for 800 bucks or less here, and Americans can purchase them for the same price.

[@bonzobanana1]

@@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921 I'm not sure what you mean the frames are good quality, they have been used by brands like Kona and Scott and are no worse than many more famous brand bikes. Many of the other components are the same as fitted to much more expensive bikes anyway. Mainland China has some truly terrible bike factories to some super high quality factories, being made in mainland China doesn't really indicate the quality level as it varies so much. Giant probably make the best mass produced frames, their top end bikes are made in Taiwan and their cheaper models in mainland China and those mainland China models probably have higher engineering standards than Insera Sena (Polygon) but then there are other factories who are inferior that many top brands use. Dorel use some pretty low end factories for their brands much inferior to Insera Sena.

[@boneheadfish7893]

The D7 comes with 29” wheels on the Large and XL sizes. I was originally looking at this exact bike but for the slight price increase going to the T7 I think it’s a better buy and am planning to pick one up hopefully soon.

[@MrAllinclubs]

Yea the T7 2020 looks like a great deal.

[@sir.hector2666]

DUSTIN H same here, was getting this one now will get the T7

[@boneheadfish7893]

Hector Rosario unfortunately the lead time for my size of the T7 was approaching mid year so I went ahead and purchased the D7 dropper edition, it actually arrived today but still need to put it together though.

[@sir.hector2666]

DUSTIN H I see, you still getting a good deal though. Most likely you will enjoy it. All KZbin reviews I’ve seen for that bike are positive.

[@hayden7027]

I've owned a T7 for a year and I definitely recommend. I haven't been kind to it yet it's still solid as a rock

[@-Alex-]

“It started to sound like math so I zoned out”😂😂😂

[@MrHeller55]

I bought one of these thanks to this review. I can confirm that there is much less space between the medium frames I got and the tire since I went with the 29" tires. To add to his review... I have done a decent amount of drops and jumps with my bike, it has zero issues with anything I have thrown at it so far. Drops go from small rock drops to a 3-4 foot wooden drop to mostly flat. I've done a few jumps some landing to flat and some not. None of this has ever pushed the ring off the rear shock. I'm 195-200lbs. If you do get this bike and run it on any rocky terrain do yourself a favor and run the tires at 25psi max as I got 3 flats running at 30psi. Note: they did send me the bike with contaminated brake pads as they assemble and test the bike before sending it to you and no one told the tester to clean the shipping gunk off the discs first.

[@junboo8730]

Couldn’t believe my thoughts. I was expecting the 1 by Walmart bike instead of something so sweet like this one.

[@paranoidandroid4270]

Polygon sponsors World Cup downhill racers including Tracey Hannah. It’s a legit bike co.

[@mahiru20ten]

They use their line of top of the line downhill bikes, the Collosus.

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

What is illegitimate as a bike company? This sponsor game is absurd, and Trek bikes hasnt won anything since Armstrong. Thats not a way to make bike purchases.

[@gripplepete]

@@mahiru20ten nah dude she won on the X Square One

[@gripplepete]

@@mahiru20ten Noone said she won on a D7 😉 haha no hate bro just jking. How's riding bro?

[@ryangonzales7716]

Polygon also does Redbull Rampage! Kurt Sorge's bike was a Polygon.

[@pudekuf25]

I'm late on the polygon train but I just bought myself the 2021 polygon siskiu d7 dropper post edition 29er with large frame today. Its a pretty substantial upgrade for me since I have been riding my mongoose xr pro 29er for the last 6 years. Last year, I upgraded my xr pro as you did (albeit with a couple better components) but I absolutely love my mongoose now. Anyway, I'm a super huge fan of your channel so thank you for all the mongoose vids (and all of the other big box store builds you've done). It made me feel good to know I wasn't the only fan of the xr pro. I'm sure I will love my new polygon once it ships in October but I won't forget about my xr pro. Its been with me through thick and thin, and a couple of knarly accidents to boot. Again, thanks for the reviews and for being an advocate for all of us budget minded folks. Stay safe and God Bless.

[@aslmx8320]

I was just looking at this bike. I’m 50 and about to start riding. I think I’ll look at the 29 being I’m 6’2 and 225. Thanks for the review.

[@RobertWilliams-ox4hz]

Have this exact bike. Been awesome so far. Mine is a 29" wheel. I think the wheel size differs with frame size. I believe you can get either 27.5 or 29.

[@fredmaldonado9204]

Correct. Depending on the frame size that will give you the proper wheel size. I checked there sizing chart.

[@ryangonzales7716]

Hey does the frame still holds and rides fine if installed with a 160mm fork and at least 140mm rear shock?

[@ryangonzales7716]

And can the Rockshox Recon's travel be adjusted by up to 160mm? If all yes, then this would be the sweetest deal of them all! Even at 150mm would already be very nice enough!

[@brandongojenola7455]

@@ryangonzales7716 You can put a longer fork on but it will mess with geometry. it will angle back the seat tube and make pedaling horrible. As for the rear shock, no you can't change the travel.

[@obi-wankenobi9871]

A longer chain stay will increase stabilty and make climbing steeps much better.

[@archetypex65]

But also will negatively affect the handling and steering making it feel sluggish. And on an entry-level bike that will already compromise performance that would only be a setback

[@binkzera2777]

Flying Lap Productions Just because a bikes handling is slowed down, doesn’t mean it’s bad. As an entry level mountain bike, I would argue that slowing down the handling, and making the bike more stable is a good idea, as it makes the bike more confidence inspiring, and makes for an easier ride, which is usually good for beginners. Sure, compared to an XC race bike, this bike might feel a bit sluggish, but this bike is not an XC race bike, and you shouldn’t treat it as such, in fact it looks a pretty capable trail bike that could easily go off some jumps, drops, and some pretty technical features.

[@obi-wankenobi9871]

@@archetypex65 It doesnt matter on an entry level bike. A beginner hasnt ridden a ton of high end bikes before, so he hasnt developed a taste for bikes yet. You can put a beginner on pretty much any quality frame and they will like it. The first proper bike wont feel sluggish or flickable, it will simply feel like a bike. Having some more spability can really help a beginner when negotiating technical terrain and the slower handling reinforces good cornering technique, since the bike takes a little more efford to turn around.

[@sethnicholls7861]

While making everything else suck ..

[@Mud9]

Yeah man, things made for the newbie to take 10 ft drops on your local xc trail on a budget 32lb bike. (At $1k it just is what it is)

[@jmcgowan1979]

I ordered this bike with the dropper seat post today! Can’t wait to get it and try it out

[@KevCentral]

Congrats

[@alexasomar466]

hey handsome are you single?

[@ArsenicEagle]

Where did you get yours? I can't find one anywhere

[@buputyin]

What brand dropper post you bought?

[@ArsenicEagle]

You can buy this bike with or without a dropper post. I think he means he ordered the one that comes with the dropper installed on it 😉

[@armandutan5901]

Hi Kev, as an Indonesian subscriber of yours, I would like to thank you for reviewing one of my country’s most popular brand in your channel. I wished you can review more because we have other brands as well and most high-end full suspension bikes starts at less than 1K. Maybe one day. Cheers

[@meancheeto]

Hello Armand, what are some other Indonesian bike brands that you recommend? Thanks

[@sundaruu666]

@@meancheeto besides of Polygon, in indonesia we have another brands like united, pasific, Thrill, they have produce MTB too

[@kendavis8647]

American companies taking production overseas leaving the working-class without jobs. Now by buying direct we can cut them out of the loop. Nice bike, I want one.

[@backroadbikes3778]

I bought a polygon Xtrada 6 29er hardtail last month and I LOVE it!!! Great bike and company!

[@keylargo5871]

That's a sweet looking bike! I want one!

[@hs4544]

HAIILL HARD TAILL..

[@raffco_edc]

Scooter Davenport so did I! Great bike!

[@zulkifliebinjaffar.zulkifl9337]

Agreed...its a good bike infact...i love it

[@kevinmontoya7318]

Finally I've been waiting for an actual review on this bike

[@donpnz]

ditto

[@Smoker920909]

I'm so happy about this! Thank you!!! I've been eye balling these for some time!

[@bikesonline258]

Thanks for the honest and transparent review Kev! If anyone has any questions about the bike or Bikes Online, don't hesitate to leave a comment :)

[@ArsenicEagle]

When can I get the dropper edition? Had it in my cart today, went to pay and it was gone

[@Mud9]

@@ArsenicEagle lmao he was just kidding when he said don't hesitate to leave a comment.

[@Jay-jn3sl]

Finally. Polygon bikes are super hard to come by outside of Australia, so I'm glad they're finally getting around and being reviewed

[@PACK-xx4ey]

They have a warehouse in California...about a month lead time to get your bike

[@Jay-jn3sl]

@@PACK-xx4ey Took them a while though, for a few years they were pretty much exclusive to Oceania

[@PACK-xx4ey]

@@Jay-jn3sl Thanks, I just ordered one. Says it will ship early Nov

[@DC13333]

Been on a Polygon T6 since Dec 2018. Got the bike through a rep of theirs so really didn't get warranty support which I could use but their US importer was going to go out of his way to help me if really wanted super good peeps. Over all I have upgraded my brakes TRP Trail SLs or Quadiems, Sped Precision carbon wheels, Eagle cassette, XTR 2x11 and Spank Vibrocore handle bars, Fox transfer with kashima dropper and soon going DVO shocks XTR cranks and this bike will keep me going for about another 5-8 years+ very good base to start on for people. I am a ex DH rider speaking of X Fusion I was their first USA DH racer in the 2000s and know their engineers respect riders feed back and have built what i feel is a top 3 MFG for shocks world wide since I have been around with them over 20 years. You pointed at the handle bars as a issue 780 are for people who are more aggressive and want to grind up and down. Someone who wants to blast downhill as fast as they can on a 120, 130, 140 like a 160-170 enduro bike. Longer chain stay also help with that factor and like my bike from 2017 mud clearance is a issue for me but not anymore on the 2020s. If you look at their sponsored riders many of there are playful type riders if you keep riding their bikes and find their limits you will see they all have that focus on the fast DH. My T6 with 2.5/2.4 Minion DH casing tires at 140mm front and back eats rock gardens up and have zero issues. I trust this bike 110% give it the respect and it gives it all back 10 fold. If it was easier to get in the USA I would probably get one again.

[@ninjawhale00]

Hey Kev! Great video as always! I work as a bike designer so thought you might be interested to know that Polygon is actually the "own brand" of the factory that produces a lot of other brand's bikes! Those entity branded parts look like Raleigh branded parts for a reason! They both buy them from someone else (likely Zoom) and put their names on it, looks like they both just picked the same bits! This is a very common practice though so I wouldn't hold it against either brand. Finally, are you aware of SRAM's "trailhead" app/website? You put your forks serial number in, give it your weight and it'll tell you how to set your fork up near perfectly! Can't wait for your next videos!

[@KevCentral]

Thanks for sharing.

[@henryfreund_]

The wide bars and long geometry are for bombing down black trails. With slightly less travel, it needs to be long to be stable. I would gladly shred that bike at whistler

[@df8600]

I just bought this bike. Coming from an old Schwinn rocket 88 stage 3. This thing is awesome and rides excellent at the price point. Yes there are better bikes but dollar for dollar its hard to beat

[@edgarmartinez9199]

I've been looking at this bike actually with the dropper seat. Glad to see others checking it out. Because of the spec and cost looks like a solid fit for a budget upgrade. I'm currently on a Gt Verb Elite. Not to say nothing bad about the GT other than it being very XC. I find myself wanting more slack in the front especially on the descents. My goal is to make a purchase for my birthday in April until then I'll continue to shop around. Enjoy your content and hope to see more like this! Keep up the great work!

[@boxingX-ray]

Im also looking at the GT Verb the you Change the front suspension and how is the back suspension doing?

[@alexyegon2381]

The best bike reviews on KZbin. Hits all the major points I'm interested in and just long enough.

[@slin6350]

Most of us in our late 30s hailing from Southeast Asia will remember a time when Polygon was known for their cheap steel bikes. They have certainly come a long way.

[@saish9225]

Now I think you should review the D5. This was a fantastic well made video! I would love to another one with Siskiu D5.

[@TheMashinac]

Longer chainstays are good for high speed stability, having a similar role to the slacker head angles everybody is doing these days. And that gap is cool, it is always nice to have space for fatter tires. 2.8 anybody?

[@kurtb8839]

They just released a D6 for $999.00, it's still a boost frame that not only comes with an air fork, it's also equipped with a dropper post and a 1×10 drivetrain. I already own a D5, but I couldn't resist and just ordered the D6. I don't think that you could take a lower priced bike and upgraded it to match it. Bikes online should send you one to test out.

[@kenlittle5706]

The drop down menu choices on their site suggest it's a frame for 29, and you can choose 27.5 or 29 wheels if you order a medium.

[@ctsingletrack]

The mediums are available with the option of 27.5" or 29" wheels. It's good that the bars come a little wide so they can be cut to the preference of the individual rider. The current version comes with a TransX dropper and a Rockshox Deluxe shock. Still about the best bike you can get for the price point. I typically ride bike that cost more than double what this bike costs, but I had no complaints riding the D7. It climbs like a rocket, and is plush where it should be. I ended up buying one for my wife, who is a more casual rider. Honestly I have a blast hopping on it once in a while and showing her what it can do.

[@wayslow]

I was about to rant on how bike manufacturers put XT rear mechs and cheap out on rest of the components evidenced here by SLX shifters, sunrace cassette and the MT200 brakes, but then I heard the price and it's really an ok spec. Sure - the MT200 levers are awful and first to be changed, but I've seen much worse spec for that kind of money. I had a few pairs of WTB mountain and gravel tires and they all were tubeless ready and easy to fit that way. I like for how WTB doesn't do the "pay us 20% or more" for the TL / TLE letters on premium tires. Regarding rear space - looks like universal rear triangle for plus size tires (up to 3" width)... and 29". As per the brand - they've been on my radar since I watch Downhill World Cup and Tracey Hannah has been pretty successful on their bikes.

[@chandlerwoody3925]

Wayslo no comments about the eBay rear shock or the fork? I’d take Deore and get real shocks. It seems like a good value but something about it doesn’t quite sit with me and can’t put a finger on it

[@wayslow]

@@chandlerwoody3925 Yeah, the shocks aren't anything to write home about, but I've seen coil on $1000+ bikes, so air + lockouts aren't *that* terrible.

[@billjohnson3418]

I've looked at their bikes online and the awesome thing is that you can return it within 14 days it's you don't like it. That's amazing. I think all the components on their are made by polygon to keep the costs low and the are made in Indonesia, which is different than most other companies. Thanks for reviewing! You should try framed bikes as well. Their online as well with great prices on their bikes. Keep up the awesome videos!

[@ParkerErisman]

I believe the reason for the longer chain stay is to give stability at high speed or down hill riding, as a longer wheel base is more stable, but only having 120mm or travel, I would classify this bike in more of the down country or trail category, which I think should have short, snappy rear ends.

[@ParkerErisman]

It is certainly a geometry choice that doesn’t make the most sense. But I also understand that lots of riders prefer long, slack bikes even for cross country and trail riding.🤷🏻‍♂️ Oh by the way, I’m almost positive Entity is Polygon’s in-house brand.

[@mrsmith326]

The clearance in the rear is likely for larger tires, WTB tires are almost all their TCS(tubeless compatible system). You set the pressure in the shock using the sag ring, that rubber band on the stanchion, usually around 25-30% of the stroke, body weight +10psi is a decent starter depending on the max pressure of the shock. Also the women’s UCI downhill champ Tracey Hannah, rides for polygon. Marin bikes uses one of their suspension platforms for one of their own bikes also...love your videos 👍🏻

[@The_Dude_420]

True i just bought the wolf ridge 9 for an unbeliveable price

[@lestonr]

I own a polygon hard tail and they’re excellent on product/price. The frame is really good and they’re great bikes.

[@Tc-hb8vp]

I've just watched this video again as I am saving for a new bike but dont have a lot of money I live in the uk I have £220 saved so far my last bike got stolen and havent been able to ride since I hope whoever stole my old norco hardtail has nothing but bad luck on it I live in the largest town in britain with a population of 77 thousand but you still sometimes come across your bike after it's been stole and sold or cath whoever stole it my norco was bright luminous green but I have never seen it I loved my norco it was old but it was loved I keep getting tempted to go buy a bike under two hundred but in the uk where I live especially I am very limited to my choice enough of my sad story lol I think this polygon bike I think is the one for me thanks kev without your videos lots of us would have went out and bought absolute rubbish so thanks again

[@afarr4607]

This is a very good bike review. Easy enough for beginners to understand and it goes into depth of a lot of things advanced riders may be looking for in a bike. 👍🏾

[@jsr3793]

The gap in the rear end? Check the weather in Indonesia. It's more than likely an %199 chance of rain. That clearance is needed for mud buildup. I have family in Malaysia, and the last time we visited them I rented a T8 and an N9. I did try to rent a D7, but they only had small sizes (because Malaysia) The best way to describe them. The N9 was better at going down. The T8 was better at everything else. I didn't really get to experiment with air pressures much. But all in all they were pretty good bikes.

[@jorgealvarez8201]

Incredible, I'd been searching your channel and several others for reviews on Polygon bikes. Just last night I ordered the D5, very basic specs on it but good for the money and looks great! Just hoping it rides as good as it looks. I'm a new subscriber to your channel and really appreciate all the info you bring to us that are new to biking!

[@rockster1385jh]

I have a 2020 Polygon Cascade 4 HT And I love that thing

[@Crooked_Gnome]

Polygon is an Indonesian brand.. quite common in Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia... a handful in New Zealand and Australia since the Polygon UR Team is based in Australia.. DH riders like Tracy Hannah and Mik Hannah have a Polygon Square One, custom built with I think Ohlins dual crown fork... front and rear D by Box Technology... you've got Alexander Fayolé for enduro, using Polygon N9.. Sam Reynolds for free ride...

[@Mr.P.Griffith]

Thank you for the review. I'm a trek marlin owner and have wanted a full sus since about a month after I bought my marlin. Been looking at this bike from day one. But there are no proper north American reviews until today. I have a dropper on my marlin that I can put on this bike and shorten the bars to my 730mm preference. And I think I'd be set to ride my (not for bikes) flat ungroomed snowmobile trails in my local forests. Thanks again!

[@davidbronstein2040]

I’ve been saving up to buy the Marin Hawk Hill 2, but now this is looking like a really great option too.

[@suspicioustumbleweed4760]

I love my hawk hill.

[@jaks7199]

I have the Marin B-17 1, which is of similar spec to the Hawk Hill 2, just with 27.5+ tires. The geometry is killer (surprisingly playful for a 27.5+) and it sounds like that’s one area the polygon is weak in. Slightly biased, but I’d still save for the Marin. I’d buy another in a heartbeat.

[@mazon33]

They're both made in the same place, and don't quote me on this, but I think they are owned by the same people.

[@sundaruu666]

Marin is a part of Polygon groups company hehehe

[@sundaruu666]

@@mazon33 true, Marin is a part of Polygon groups company hehehe

[@paranoidandroid4270]

Modern geometry and decent spec at that price? Unbelievable value.

[@wii_music_intensifies9023]

Oh wow, i was thinking of buying this as my next bike and boom, kev makes a review for it. Perfect timing

[@Bobcatspiritdude]

that's my next budget banger ! just got the Axum yesterday !! Thnaks foe all your hard work Kev!!

[@pauldc779]

Another great review. Haven't heard of Polygon before but it's a nice looking bike and well specced for the price.

[@macaulayculkin5022]

I've been watching this bike for months. Seems like the best buy for the price.

[@markparks3600]

I'm out of the loop on bikes in general, however this bike looks way more advanced than anything I've ever ridden!😆 As always great review 👍

[@nigelbrownwellington6514]

My wife and son both ride Polygon bikes. My daughter and I on heavily modded Schwinns. All of us love our trusty steeds.

[@gregkellow4723]

It looks like a well thought out bike. The parts work with the design, and are not just a conglomeration of high end parts put together to impress everybody on the trail. I like it, but I'm not a full suspension rider. But if I was I'd consider it for sure.

[@artimehta4189]

Yeah i own a Polygon Premier 5 2019 model and its working great for casual riding or commuting

[@carlinanderson2605]

I would definitely do some research into what Sag is for setting up your rear shock. It's the reason the bike doesn't come with an air chart as every frame an shock combo is going to have a different air pressure to get the correct sag. Also the excessive space is probably just for clearance for bigger tires, it might be plus tire(3in) compatible, and if not it probably has at least clearance for a 2.6 (which is pretty much standard on most bikes) where as the stock tires look pretty narrow. Bike design also isn't as simple as just making the chainstay as short as possible, if that were the case ever brand would be doing it. I would imagine it only feel sluggish because you are used to riding outdated geometry dept. Store bike, where something like this will feel a million times better the second you even hit a whiff of a decent.

[@Gamingoodz]

this ^^^

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

Very cool bike. This is the first time I've heard of the brand, hopefully you'll cover more of them in the future. Looking forward to the next video. Keep up the good work.

[@JohnnyJugulur]

I love your ‘reviews’, on high end parts. To the point and from a bike lovers point of view. - I have an S-Works Epic to a beach cruiser my neighbor found in the dumpster. Not as much as you however. I think everyone that watches your channel is looking for more enlightenment and insight for they’re future cycling venture.

[@jaymason480]

Never heard of Polygon bikes but when you first was showing it, I was thinking this can't be a $150 bike. It looks more like a $1000-1500 dollar bike. And I kinda liked the color scheme.

[@Aceospady]

I have been riding this Siskiu d7 L size with 29” wheels since its release in 2019 and i ride it if i want a less aggressive ride along the trail . I only upgraded it with a dropper post and changed the pedals that came with it. And i have no complain whatsoever specially with the price I’ve paid. I’m giving it a thumbs up. Again, i only ride it if i wanna ride a LESS aggressive trail ride as i had my shares of crashes with it. I still ride my enduro bike (from another brand) if i wanna ride a more aggressive ride.

[@magicamika]

Polygon is Indonesian brand, a tropical muddy country. Those gaps in rear wheel meant to that muds dont get stuck and space clearance for rear shock travel when rear wheel move forward.

[@fredmore8788]

I've heard many comments about the Polygon bikes and I'm impressed to the point that I'm planning to buy one.

[@jestojj]

I bought this bike. Video helped me a lot. I am happy with my purchase.

[@dennyindarnanto2134]

I'm proudly saying that this polygon bike brand were produced in my Country, Indonesia. Polygon's are very big bicycle company in Indonesia. They have many kind of product with many price range... Also we have " United Bicycle " brand which are Polygon brand heavy competitor. Nice review anyway...

[@javiermiranda8656]

I agree with Alex, the ads are non stop lol I'm so glad you did a review on this bike, I actually think its a good looking bike. Add some gum wall tires and you have a looker. This review has me on the fence, I love 27.5 hard tails because they are nimble but I'm still intreagued by the price. Thanks Kev!

[@edgardovelazquez2446]

I know you have fun from bikes but is fun is getting home from work and watching your new vidoe.

[@TrailFeatures]

Pretty great looking bike for the money! The Geo though, it's a head scratchier. I love that they offer longer chain stays for taller riders (more brands should be doing this!), but then they have a shorter wheelbase and reach that gives the bike a kinda short front center. Add to that a really steep seat tube and tall stack it makes the bike pretty odd on paper. I'd have to ride it for a bit to figure out what they were going for.

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

432mm on the smaller sizes and 436mm on the bigger sizes are still pretty short and 465mm reach isnt that short, very similar to my Marin Alpine Trail. The stack measurements on the geo chart definitely arent right. It actually feels like a modern short travel trail bike to ride. Rides very similar to a Gt Sensor, Giant Trance 29 etc, just slightly steeper head angle.

[@TrailFeatures]

@@trailtalkmtb6603 Yeah, I was wondering about the stack. The bike would look more like a beach cruiser with numbers like that!

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

@@TrailFeatures hahaha yep. Would be nice for my bad back!

[@rcwildvideosdavis1426]

The geo on the bike actually looks pretty darn good. 432mm for a chainstay isn’t out of the norm. Head tube angle is 67, and wheelbase is 1152mm. So it’s not really slack and or long. In comparison to other modern mountain bikes it should be plenty nimble, with enough length to make it feel stable at fast speeds. Nice thing about 780mm bars is you have the option to cut them down. You can’t go the other direction. I would recommend this to someone wanting to get into mountain biking. Love the looks too.

[@KevCentral]

Oh, if those bars would get neutered quickly.

[@MrRedPony01]

Those pedals are the same as what came with my diamondback, but mine were branded by DB. The crank is the same as what Raleigh uses. I wouldn't be surprised if all three are buying from the same "no-name" shop.

[@nunyabizness5098]

I have the medium 29er version of the D7. Absolutely love it! The Trail Boss tires that are on it are wire bead. I replaced them after a ride or two with WTB Vigilante Tubeless compatible tires. They were a PAIN to get on the rims and setup tubeless. I’ve actually found the D7 to be quite nimble in turns. Not as nimble as my 27.5 Diamondback but that bike has a much shorter wheelbase than the D7 and steeper HT angle. The X-Fusion shock has become one of my favorites. Really enjoyed your review of this bike. I hope the more you ride it, the more you enjoy it!

[@KevCentral]

Thanks for sharing

[@viveviveka2651]

Hi Kevin, Your viewers might be interested in how some of the better used or "vintage" bikes compare. I just bought a (dual suspension/full suspension) XT/XTR K2 Attack 3.0 for $175, and it's great fun. Reviews often mentioned that it handles like a much more expensive bike. By luck or by design, it hit a sweet spot and rides really well. It was fairly popular, and can be found on the used market. Try finding a new XT/XTR bike for anywhere near this price. I'm very happy with it. I even like the look and the color scheme. Many of your viewers would appreciate the quaity-to-price ratio of some of these excellent used bikes.

[@ChronoCard]

Entity is Polygon's in-house brand. Also, even though the WTB tires don't say they're tubeless, you can run them as tubeless tires. I did have experience with them weeping after a time, so add more sealant than you think. Also, x-fusion does make some good stuff. It can take a beating and keep on ticking. There is a bit of advice for the rebound knob on the x-fusion shock, though... It does have clicks going in the other direction, but they're borderline not defined. If you rotate it slowly enough, you can feel the indentation of where the click is supposed to be.

[@sushilolpee7894]

Entity is Polygon's house brand of bike components hence that's why its filled with Entity components.

[@jeepcherokeeguy5742]

Great video, a lot of the people I ride with have gone overseas and they've mentioned this Brand before. They stated that people swear by them as a great bike for the price.

[@upstatecre8]

I watched this video and found the extra space between the tires and frame a cool opportunity to plus size the tires. I like having that opportunity.

[@dougfromsoanierana]

Never heard of this one but I’m vvveeeeerryyy curious. Thanks for the review.

[@Epluribusunom6166]

Yes I heard a polygon actually it was in my scope for my next bike. The # 9 has a pretty green color. Ibis it's on my mind right now

[@johnyork6955]

Great review Kev! Glad to see you back out on the trail!

[@corennet.6776]

I have only ever gotten cheapo bikes from Wal-mart. The best so far has been the Schwinn for around $200. This Polygon looks really, really good without breaking the bank. Gonna have to get one of their $500 models.

[@andrewcannon3926]

I've been thinking about a full suspension bike , and this Sam Reynolds inspired bike and the calilbre bossnut after buying that Raleigh tokul 1 .I loved it it's down in Tallahassee at a bike shop Its being sent back to me the tokul 1 showed me what bikes are actually capable of doing.it's so awesome you read my mind I swear when it comes to doing videos I've been looking at this bike for a couple of months now now the 2020s are out

[@jonathanfany2401]

I own the Trid, just got it about a month ago. The X-fusion air shock is great and works well with big drops and jumps. The bike did come with a weirdly large front rotor for the brakes but other than that the bike is amazing! And bikes online was great with sending it all the way to Florida in just 4 days! Also love your channel keep it up! Maybe take a trip to central Florida for a different type of riding.

[@jameswilson2815]

I'm poised to buy one but being in Hawaii I cringe to think of the shipping costs. You pay the price, for paradise. Dreaming is free. Mahalo and Aloha.

[@bobk381]

I’ve never heard of the Polygon bike brand but that doesn’t surprise me. As you said it looks like a color scheme from mid-80’s Chevrolet and nice looking. Components look solid and a good value for the cost. Looks like a good buy for anyone in the market for a full suspension mountain bike.

[@samxulumte9648]

I recently started to look into bikes. One vid took me to the mongoose pro that led me to all of the reviews of it and then the Walmart brands and then here lol. So many more to go but now with the knowledge and the eye opener to what to look for in a bike I may say my pallete is slowly I creasing lol. Thank you for doing this. And this is a sweet bike for the price.

[@cooperlilly9960]

The d7 size medium comes in either 27.5 or 29er so the gap in the back is probably because of that

[@biker8797]

I like polygon bikes due to their good looking Frames and the Component that come with bikes. I have the Polygon siskiu D5 and I like it

[@MeridiasBacon]

I bought the Siskiu N8 29er last November as my first full susp, transitioning from a hardtail. I don't think any other brand beats Polygon for value. A Rockshox Yari fork, Fox DPX2 shock, (edit: Eagle NX drivetrain as well) and dropper post for under $2500. The bike is tons of fun, eats descents, climbs VERY well, and just looks amazing. Thoroughly pleased with it. ONLY issue is that I wish they gave options for crank sizes. Not a fan of the 175mm cranks, what with all the pedal strikes.

[@KevCentral]

On this model the small and medium frame have 170mm cranks

[@gripplepete]

My Siskiu N9 used to pedal strike a lot with the Fox DPX2 shock, I found it was out of pos/neg balance from Fox factory, also didn't come with any volume spacers fitted. Still I guess it'd be nice to be able to option shorter cranks..

[@MeridiasBacon]

@@gripplepete Over the past few weeks I finally noticed how much the suspension compresses from me just sitting on it. I can see how that would add to the problem. Gonna try and get it set up correctly.

[@gripplepete]

Yeah I've also gone from 30% to 25% sag, helps a lot plus helps stop the front end nose diving as easy. Also got the 170mm air spring upgrage for the fox 36 Rhythm fork from Cyclinic in Brisbane ready to fit plus an extra volume spacer.. this things gonna bomb down the steeps!!

[@gripplepete]

*25% in the rear shock

[@Jason-xu6pi]

Glad I came across this video... I'm giving serious thought to this bike as my first full suspension MTB.... for the price it seems like a solid choice

[@hs4544]

pick this one....this value for money trust me..

[@jmsmash1998]

Kev! Looks like you were on the trails at Lost Mountain Park. It is nice to see some local flavor on the 'channel. I live in Cherokee county and work for the Cobb Police Dept. I am very familiar with the West Cobb area. Maybe see you out there at Allatoona Creek sometime. Great Review. I did look at a Siskiu a few years back, but I eventually settled on a Gorilla Gravity Smash.

[@KevCentral]

Not sure where that is, but that’s not where I was 😁

[@backontopmotowerks]

I just picked up the Xtrada 8.0, should be delivered tomorrow. Polygon seems to be an amazing value. Awesome channel, btw!!!

[@peterlang5047]

The chainstay is long so that the bike is more balanced. It puts more weight on the front wheel so it’s more stable when you’re going fast and it gives you more traction on the front wheel. It also leaves room for mud so the mud doesn’t stop the wheel from spinning

[@kirkland0074]

“It started to sound like math so I zoned out”, best line of all time. Great video just bought this bike and hope to love it.

[@Jamesthebikeguy]

What's going on is an extremely steep seat tube angle. The chainstay is 432mm long, aka normal. The seat tube is very steep at 70deg. That also means the reach gets short so you are way over the front and will not lend to fun geo. It does, however, solve some suspension related climbing issues by putting the seat forward allowing more power from the rider. It's an engineering solution to lessen the cost of the manufacturer and still overall provide a decent riding bike.

[@colindixon9543]

We love tyre gaps in the UK to deal with our mud 😀

[@KevCentral]

Heh

[@jodhikusuma3857]

Yepp

[@TomTom-xp2jb]

Seems like good value. Like you I hadn't heard of the brand before but that's probably not that unusual given the number of bike manufacturers currently in the world. Good viddy, thanx!!! 🇨🇦

[@Zedman3333]

I just got my 2020 Polygon Siskiu T7 Sram SX Eagle LTD and i fn love it. Great value . Its legit.

[@KevCentral]

Congrats!

[@headoverbars8750]

What a great review. Answered all the questions that I had. I had just given this bike and the t7 a serious look. I'm in the states in Michigan and I've heard of polygon though. I've never seen any in the wild. One of my favorite Racers Ride For polygon. Sam Reynolds I ended up spending a lot more money on a trek. That is arguably the same component wise except for a RockShox Deluxe rear shock. For $700 more that better be a damn good shock lol. That and you get the Trek. Frame, although my bike is 3 lbs heavier than that polygon

[@ervan13]

hi... im your subscriber from Indonesia. polygon bikes is from indonesia... , 💪💪

[@rmj8321]

Sama gan 😅

[@yoelchrisnawan5446]

Polygon is popular brand in Indonesia. Its consider the number 1 here. their factory also produce marin and scott bikes.