Old Composer REACTS to JINJER Judgement & Punishment - Tatiana Shmayluk - Reaction & First Listen

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JINJER Judgement & Punishment - Tatiana Shmayluk - One Take Vocal Reaction & First Listen
JINJER Judgement & Punishment Reaction

[@elamshin6607]

This ride goes as long as you stay true to yourself. YT viewers are starving for positivity and honesty.

[@KeyOfGeebz]

Thank you for that :)

[@alexteo3854]

amen to that

[@TrumpImmortal]

Whoa. Small internet. Hello Steam friend.

[@trfmusic902]

@@KeyOfGeebz just watching this video now, missed a small amount of them so going through your channel! Got into Jinjer a few days ago and they are very fun and unique.

[@Spart1269]

That is so true

[@JuanTheDjent]

Tatiana just embodies everything that metal's all about - she totally owns it. Superb band in every single way.....

[@benmacdhui]

Put perfectly. Well said

[@tydendurler9574]

Somehow exactly the reason i don't listen to them

[@paulgreiwe8653]

@@tydendurler9574 who do you like to listen to?

[@mooncalf_4534]

Blasphemy I know but Tati feels too... Trashy, to me? The lyrics, the way she carries herself, some of the dumb shit she's worn to concerts, I dunno. Maybe the fact she's so aggressively hyped by the general community just sours me innately- I have the same thing with Nightwish where I just want to hate that band because everyone's so fucking pushy about how they're literally god incarnate or whatever. Same shit here. Apparently now she's metal personified lol

[@mooncalf_4534]

@Jimmy Hollywood Like I said, her fanbase is nice and rabid

[@Brotha_Teresa]

It’s very fitting that Tati has a dragon tattoo on her throat, since she breathes fire!

[@derricktipps9867]

She's amazing, have never heard her before except for this channel... def deep diving now

[@Thinchap]

@@derricktipps9867 Glad you found Jinjer here, I've been a fan for 4 years now and have seen them twice, so amazing live. Enjoy!

[@neilpatrickhairless]

Its a tattoo of Quetzalcoatl

[@dbell582]

@@neilpatrickhairless yes, it is. 🙃

[@umgwahumgwa]

@Derrick Tipps oh man, I envy to you for such an opportunity for joy and wonder of first listenings whole Jinjer playlist. I'm sure that if you liked this one then you gonna just devour all of them today ;)

[@Twitchsucks2]

I love watching people realize why we love metal. The time changes and everything just incredible. Really keeps you guessing and provides a special kind of energy

[@crazypomp927]

First time hearing Jinjer, first time hearing Tatiana. Mind = blown.

[@theparadisesnare]

The reggae vibes in this song are so damn CRISP! Forever a favorite. Tatiana is an actual goddess, band is incredible

[@shaitanlavey]

I would like to thank you from the bottom of my tiny blackened heart for learning the difference between a growl and a scream.

[@thesaltybeard1793]

Dirty centrist.

[@russellward4624]

Eugene is an absolute monster on the bass. Just a genius. He was the first thing that caught my eye/ear in the band. Hes got so many cool parts in thier songs.

[@cuteasxtreme]

The band Death was a big influence on a lot of growling. Chuck Schuldiner is the guy

[@6ic6ic6ic]

We need a reaction to Death 100%.

[@Livingkin]

YES check out Death!

[@Loonaticx]

Schuldiner*

[@sweetsweetmeat]

@@6ic6ic6ic agreed

[@ghgodsexposed]

Yeah something off of The Sound of Perseverance like Spirit Crusher or Flesh and the Power it Holds would be fantastic. I love every Death album, but that album was by far the most progressive so I think he'd appreciate it the most.

[@APieceOfLiquid]

Jinjer hasn't got a bad song or album yet. They're so good. Please do more. I enjoy your look at bands from your perspective.

[@JungleScene]

Eugene is such a badass bass player. probably my favorite active bass player in metal right now. This might be sacrilege but I feel like hes up on the level of guys like john myung.

[@natashagoode501]

I had a brief message chat with him because some of his style was familiar to me. And he said that he is influenced Jaco Pastorius. He never did respond as to whether he can play Reza. Would be awesome if he can. Almost a Flight of the Bumblebee in the Jazz world I guess. Check out Reza/Giant Steps/Reza from his live Invitation album. Mind blowing. :)

[@ZachComa]

Roman's guitar tone here is a Peavey 6505 set with low distortion with gobs of boost before the amp from his Helix. It's impossible to tell what he has set in the Helix, but it's some kind of tube screamer overdrive and maybe a clean boost that carry those mids through and tighten the low end. You slam the front of the amp with mids and cut some of them out after the pre-amp with an EQ to get that djenty tone. Live, he mixes in impulse responses, not sure if he uses them in the studio.

[@dlach3139]

Could you be more specific?

[@ZachComa]

@@dlach3139 Here, Roman talks about his setup kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4jLp3iHi9N2ac0. I can get a similar-ish sound on my rig doing something kinda like he does without the impulse responses. I use a clean boost, an overdrive set as clean boost, and an overdrive with slight distortion going into my mildly overdriven Randall RT100. The overdrives and boost give an insane amount of mids, but that carries that low A tuning nicely through the pre-amp and tightens the low end removing any flub. The key is to shape the sound with a 7 or 8 band EQ in the loop to remove a lot of the added mids and get just the right amount of low end. The EQ does most of the sound shaping. Here's this in action kzbin.info/www/bejne/anuqgJWqhZJ9h5I

[@dlach3139]

@@ZachComa thanks!

[@module79l28]

As you can see in the video you linked, Roman now uses an EVH 5150 III, not a 6505.

[@ZachComa]

@@module79l28 5150 III on tour in North America (and South maybe), 6505 in Europe. Right after the U.S. tour, he sold the 5150 III, I remember the listing.

[@astrophotonics9470]

Love her, so much Talent, nobody in Metal can touch her IMO.

[@danielflorez3762]

Omg, mr nobody is so lucky.

[@seancoakley9640]

This is the best female screamer I've ever heard by far.

[@wesweldon3712]

Tatiana is the hook to get them in and the band keep them there

[@AudioslaveRATM123]

To answer your question at the end of the video, I think the first "growling" in music can probably be coined to old blues players. If you think about it, the Beatles even had some pretty raspy vocals in their songs. (Twist and Shout for example) obviously not like modern day growls but like you said, it all evolves. The main band coined with being the first to growl is just called "Death" from the 80s/90s. I believe that's why the term is called "death growl" sometimes but I'm not sure on that.

[@peacereaper5987]

A lot of times modern growls are attributed to the blues and 80s garage metal, and early fry screams can be found in pink Floyd, the who, and zepplin

[@peterwyatt5702]

@@peacereaper5987 And, if you want to go further back, the Vikings were the first to implement the use of "grunts" or "growls" into their songs.

[@jonkwape3097]

@@peterwyatt5702 Were they though? I suppose that's more a worldwide phenomenon.

[@henrywiltcher]

@@jonkwape3097 exactly. It could well go back 10s of thousands of years.

[@tydendurler9574]

@@peterwyatt5702 yeah sure, no humans growled or grunted before the vikings xD XdCCCsCd fml 😂😂😂

[@caseyrogers573]

You should watch some interviews with the bassist Eugene. Such a passionate and focused guy and obviously a killer bassist.

[@TrumpImmortal]

Definitely reggae. She's a big fan of it.

[@regorf]

Roman said he played the lick on accident while just messing around on the neck, they decided to use it because Tati always asks for reggae.

[@Marino4L]

She used to be in a ska band I believe.

[@theholyduck5520]

@@Marino4L Oh man, I want to hear that so bad.

[@TrumpImmortal]

@@Marino4L apparently her favorite album of all time is Ixnay on the Hombre by the Offspring... 😣

[@soul146]

"respect to all the growlers out there" i died and spat drink out

[@ElectricHobbit-Official]

Me too, don't think he knows what that means in the UK

[@craigcolduck2077]

@@ElectricHobbit-Official And Australia.

[@BachiloDmitry]

enlighten us

[@ElectricHobbit-Official]

@@BachiloDmitry Волосатая фанни старушки (An Old Lady's Hairy Fanny)

[@craigcolduck2077]

@@BachiloDmitry This will probably get me in trouble, but in the UK, "growler," is used in Cockney rhyming slang, sometimes, instead of, "grunt," which rhymes with 'c**t'. It is often used, sometimes in a derogatory way, to describe a variety of things, from someone's wife, a woman, calling a woman ugly, a woman's genitals, calling a woman's genitals ugly, or (growling) having sex with a woman, especially performing oral sex on a woman. In Australia, it's mostly used in this last meaning, i.e., to perform oral sex on a woman, like, "eating carpet," or, "rug munching."

[@samuelsykes8257]

The way her accent comes through is just absolutely beautiful

[@charlesmayberry2825]

Someone already mentioned a lot of what is going on with his guitar tone, what I can tell you from my experience, the bass is cranked down, which is common with an extended range guitar, They tune frequently to A and Ab, on a 7 string. When you're tuned that low, you usually dial back the bass on the tone stack, it's going to be very bassy regardless. If you don't wind it back it goes straight to being mud. There's definitely a screamer or similar pedal to tone shape, which also tends to roll off a bit more of the low end. and I'd go as far to say even though the fundamental on the guitar is below 60 hz, that they have a highpass around 100hz, so what you're hearing is actually the harmonic series of the low notes rather than the low note themselves (because the first harmonic is an octave higher than the fundamental) this is a very common way to get a very low guitar signal sounding clearer and punchier. but the tone stack if we use a 4 band tone stack, bass is dialed back, low mids slightly rolled off, hi mids are very present, and treble is slightly boosted. The high mids are the body of the ticky sound you get in Djent. The low mids can be muddy and do weird things so you kind of pull them out a bit. Source: I play 7 string guitars through a peavey 6505 lol He has a helix going into his, I'm slamming mine with an old tube screamer, and then a clean boost after to absolutely slam the preamp section of the amp. Admittedly his tone is cleaner than mine. However speaking from experience that's the route that's going on there. Sidenote, 7 strings don't get enough love. They are becoming popular in metal, but damn if that guitar hasn't proven to be amazing for jazzy and bluesy stuff, and it's an absolute monster for playing ambient styles. Also I know this has gotten to be long comment, But I wanted to say respect for giving their bassist some love, he's incredible. Everyone always overlooks the bassists. Coming from a rhythm guitarist, they are 2/3 of my guitar tone. A great bassist will make or break a bands sound. If the bassist is doing his job well, everything in the track sounds bigger, better and richer. A lot of time though that means they get overlooked. So Thank you for taking a moment and showing the bass some love there.

[@OG.PoshCat]

Geebz! You're the cool artsy grandad we all need. Lol. Loving your channel since the first reactions, kudos on 100k!

[@derricktipps9867]

Grandpa... stung me and it was in no way meant for me. Lol. I get it though.

[@user-bf6gz8ej4o]

Sup! Just wanted to say that I think it's pretty impolite that most comments under reaction videos are just song suggestions. The least of them appreciate the youtuber himself. And I wanted to let you know that you're freakin' awesome, dude.

[@gandalf8216]

According to you it's impolite. But most people dislike hearing praises about one's own person, and would rather prefer a sense of connection and kinship with peers. Not saying Geebz is like that, but most people are. We all love music, and we want to share what we love with each other, and that's wonderful. Suggesting a song that you love can also be very personal because in a way we're sharing a piece of ourselves. There is nothing impolite about it, even though I agree, some may come across as merely demanding but I doubt that's the real intent. This is KZbin after all, it's what you make of it.

[@ShiivaWilding]

Geebz requested the comments be suggestions with links to videos, and only people who know what they're talking about with regards to music production can really comment on his take, so most just go for a song suggestion.

[@user-bf6gz8ej4o]

@@gandalf8216 impolite, yeah. I'm not a native speaker. Also I think that you can't build any connection to the youtuber when you're just suggesting a song and nothing else. There's no communication between the youtuber and the viewer

[@leafyr0kr]

@@user-bf6gz8ej4o I mean, I'd consider it an act of intimacy (even if it is one-sided), to go out of your way to post a song suggestion, knowing that the person will enjoy it in some kind of way.

[@coreycompton909]

“Boris the spider” by The Who is usually credited as the first growled vocals.

[@fvivarvargas]

I followed you with Jinjer - Piscis. So I'm always looking forward to watch you react to Jinjer. Tatiana is a beast!

[@StefanMedici]

Love the bass. I need to check out more from this group, first time hearing them. Her vocals are amazing too.

[@michellerichardson6135]

@Key of Geebz the first recorded musical growl was John Entwistle on "Boris The Spider" back in 1966. Your reactions are super insightful and I love hearing the waves crashing in the background. I think I was meant to be a beach baby but I am stuck in Indiana.....oh well, have a great day and a fantastic week!!

[@KeyOfGeebz]

Aloha Michelle - Thanks for the info! Awwwright :)

[@akumace2615]

That's exactly what I was thinking too, my friend showed me the song years back saying he thought that where probably the earliest origin.

[@myklelara]

I feel like you’re getting closer and closer to more Periphery and Haken and I can’t wait. Love your breakdowns, bud! 👏🏼👏🏼

[@reynmaxelpalese5449]

You sir just a beautiful human being. God bless you sir..

[@SparkimusPrime]

This is one of my favorite songs for bass 🖤

[@XistoKente]

3:41 Yeeeeah! I could barely wait to see your face when they hit you with that reggae LOL

[@calebolendorf899]

If you're interested in an interesting Reggae/Metal band, check out the band Skindred. I'd recommend the tracks "Nobody", "Pressure", "Ratrace", or "Kill the Power"

[@rallyking13]

I second this. Skindred are amazing, and one of the best bands I've seen live.

[@LilNewo]

Hands down best jinjer song

[@RaulDragonLord]

lol'd watching your facial expressions when the first reggae part started xD

[@benmacdhui]

Jinger are on their very own level of metal, similar to how Meshuggah are, as well as TooL in their respective 'category' or artistic styles. There is simply no competition

[@Daffmeister187]

A channel called 'The Punk Rock MBA' did a video called 'The evolution of screaming: from The Beatles to Slayer!' that covers a lot of the history of how growling came to be.

[@joshx9746]

so glad you did this one, a great one take performance. Really enjoying this channel man, hope you keep going with it.

[@theclow614]

Hey huge congrats on the 100k subs!!! You deserve it. We're here for the long haul. Your videos are pure substance, insight, and love for music. We love to see it! Awwright!

[@jimmyh2100]

I have been waiting for this. Man waiting for a new video from you is the bright spot of my day

[@mikegruits2137]

These videos are fantastic. Keep up the great work!

[@jacek_poplawski]

Wow, congratulations on 100k!!!

[@Raksasa187]

Jinjer - Home Back is also an amazing song!! After seeing them live i can say they are truly amazing musicians and people in general!

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Powerful song about their hometown in eastern Ukraine getting caught in the war there. And it speaks eloquently for the millions of civilians caught in every war around the world.

[@jabberwokee4127]

That is indeed a great way to wake up on a Monday morning! Great reaction and decomposition. As always, we can never have enough Jinjer. 👍

[@benmathias4755]

Love the reactions man

[@shadows-sweet-embrace]

Love, love it 🤘🤘 She's such a big inspiration to me, so talented. And, let's not forget the band! Amazing, all around. Powerful music.

[@tricia107]

Aloha geebz, and Congrats on 100k subs! My 1st listen to Jinjer was your reaction to Pisces just 2 days ago. Now I'm fan! Really enjoying this journey. I get way fewer commercials on Roku than on phone/tablet. The rewind trick seems to work well (go to the end, then slide back to the beginning). Many thanks to whomever shared this tip in a comment somewhere. Very helpful!

[@Zilldian1]

Man dude, thanks for doing this! Mahalo my friend!

[@stangriffinstan_the_alaska9668]

It's Jinjer time. And yes I am here.

[@ragnarlothbrook3083]

Dig the way you analyze and appreciate all forms of skill and style. Keep up the good work brother.

[@jordanpetty4356]

Cradle of Filth - Nymphetamine (Overdose), Her Ghost In The Fog, or Wester Vespertine. Great musicians and composers.

[@gerrybegnoche1561]

Her ghost in the fog is amazing!

[@jimhaskell5485]

Their song, Who is Going to Be the One (Live), is an amazing performance. You particularly get to see how talented the bass player is in that video. It was written back when they had two guitar players. They rearranged it with Romain playing a lead/rhythm combo sort of part, and Eugene (bassist) playing a bit of the lead guitar part as well -- it's small, but impressive.

[@cassandraluckert8115]

Been waiting for you to do this One!

[@TheBlackWatchRHR]

13:08 "It's not because I physically see her" I don't think you can right now with all that sunlight in your face

[@Citizen_JQP]

I like the way you talk about your evolution through music, not letting all of your previous experiences flavor your opinions. There's always something wonderfully new to discover.

[@grfxman09]

I found Jinjer on your channel with that first react... and have been on a solid Tatiana fan crush ever since. She is so unique...

[@TheGregh1977]

Jinjer home back is their new one. Interesting timings in that one

[@arc6017]

I love seeing reactors climbing walls trying to figure out the tempos and shifts in Jinjer´s compositions. Great reaction man, loved it! This band deserves much more, try something live like "Perennial" live at Wacken 2019, they are monsters on stage. Peace.

[@bradjeske7218]

I'm so happy that you did this. Will you please do some In Flames. A quiet place, cloud connected, reroute to remain. Also I'm still waiting for my Dillinger escape plan but I know you've got a long list. But I'm still here and I love you buddy keep up the great work

[@Joker3515]

Still waiting for you to do Hexagram! As you can tell, I love Deftones.

[@billbergeron634]

you are better every day great job today im a music god to your truley feeling the vibes thanks

[@smavtmb2196]

Love that song so unique. Loved it even more once I got to know the lyrics. I really appreciate your perspective.

[@chillasslofi8962]

More Jinjer please. I love hearing your take on them. I learn a lot.

[@sbcustoms1697]

This band is so good. Live they are a treat for the senses. Vlad and Eugene’s playing sets the stage for Tatiana and Roman to shine and the whole band molds and forms their own unique sound, with so many influences and styles. They are the future.

[@tjhorne82]

Just binged all of your Jinjer reactions up this point. Hope to see more! Great reactions. If you need suggestions may I recommend a few? "Outlander", "Cloud Factory official live video", "Retrospection" and "On the Top live in Kiev" would be some to check out if they're not already on your list.

[@Cube_lol]

this man chooses so many songs from my playlists

[@progperljungman8218]

SO enjoying your enjoyment from this!

[@jessicasretrolunacy]

We're still here! Also Tatiana is as infectious to watch as she is to listen to, no one can rightly blame you for getting distracted by the video. :)

[@EZMETAL]

Great man, your channel, you have a f good vibe, open minded and down to earth. Keep it on. Cheers

[@KeyOfGeebz]

I appreciate that Elcio - Thank You!!! Awwwwright!

[@kvltmart]

Edit: Regarding the history of growling, there is mention of “growling” and ugly vocalizations in historical accounts of Scandinavian music when other cultures would deal with the Norsemen who went viking (fun fact, viking is a verb as it was a side activity for income supplement, NOT a dedicated lifestyle or class of people). There are also the vocalizations in Haka from the Maori people of New Zealand. As for its use in popular music, The Who’s “Boris the Spider” is often seen as the first ever use of a death growl, back in 1966! Congrats on 100k, Geebz! Was wondering when you’d get to this one :) “Home Back” next in the Jinjer list? Going to start my new request quest and recommend you react to Mute the Saint’s “The Fall of Sirius”, a mix of prog metal and Indian classical: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn6xgn9jq9eibsU

[@Ameer-xy5ng]

Jinjer..Raggae into metal..just awesome..just like thier song pisces..

[@bjkuhn4473]

I don't listen to lyrics until quite a few listens. The music draws me more

[@tmyoshimura621]

Wow. She's AMAZING. I feel enlightened by your comment comparing the role of bass in reggae being akin in in importance to the power guitar riffs in metal. Makes me want to listen to reggae. Would love to watch you break down some reggae tunes!

[@terencole1854]

Sir, you have a beautiful mind... if I had a fraction of your musical knowledge I would be a giant amongst men... keep up the great work.. 👍🏽💜

[@Livingkin]

You've amassed 100 thousand subscribers in 3 months. People obviously dig what you do, so keep having fun and at this rate, KZbin will have to take notice. Much love, my man. Also, "Scoop the mids" is basically step one for beginner metal guitar tone.

[@Livingkin]

By the way, if check out the band Death, Chuck Schuldiner is essentially the pioneer of screaming/growling. And once you're back from that rabbit hole, Deathcore has some of the most innovative vocalists out there. I would personally recommend Slaughter to Prevail (Alex is literally a beast), anything by Dickie Allen, and Whitechapel.

[@scosstard3542]

Awesome! How to not love this woman, she has it all, the cleans, the growls, the fry screams and she looks stunning! On top of that she loves cats :D If you are looking for other artists with incredible vocal range check out: Dir En Grey - Vinushka.

[@cooltechnician]

Jinjer and Spiritbox are my favourite bands but I fo love DeG.. and Kyo and the guys are amazing musicians as well

[@bradleyaune660]

I Love listening to Jinger! Been listening to them since I first heard them in 2014/15. Anyway, you asked about the growling. Before I ever heard Jinjer play there was Killswitch Engage with Howard Jones! He sings the same way with cleans and growls. Try listening to “Desperate Times “ from Killswitch Engage. 🤘😎

[@Wylderulz]

The pattern you were wondering about is a quintuplet pattern. Yay for prime numbers!

[@Miller_Time]

Hey you hit 100k subs! Congrats my Decomposer

[@ErykaVasconcelos]

Gabriel Henrique - I Want To Know What Love Is. Hugs from Brazil!

[@moongoddess2535]

A lot of other people have mentioned this but the band Death was first in growling. Their song “1000 Eyes” was my older brothers way of introducing me to metal and I have not looked back. Love your channel and your breakdowns in the songs! 🤘🏻

[@derricktipps9867]

Damn, girl has some pipes!

[@GregPYatesJr]

I've never hit LIKE so quick in my life!!

[@rodolfosaumafuguet2471]

Dude! Yes, more Jinjer, please! 🔥

[@bugleaf9603]

i love your videos :)

[@justinbudach5008]

ALLLLRIGHHHT

[@zukacs]

Aits WWW

[@HaQeSaQr]

Glad yer gettin the Jinjer experience Mang! You should check out some Bad Brains, Ween (A Tear for Eddie or Transdermal Celebration). Also Maggot Brain from Funkadelic. Maybe some Zappa like Zoot Allures

[@JosephYaden]

Tati is one of the greats. Glad she and Jinjer exist.

[@phrike7588]

You're an enjoyment to watch and listen to, sir, cause it's so obvious that you love and process music and let it filter through your veins :).

[@joshbuckby6086]

Lol legend. Respect to all the growlers 🤣

[@chrisgreen248]

Nice, glad you did this version. Showed kids this recently, boy was amazed (but has heard female growling so not surprised) 4 year old girl got fierce for a while. 🤣 🤟🏻✌🏻

[@derricktipps9867]

How do i say this as decently as possible... I can't fathom the amount of teen boys in this singer's fan club... because i would be.

[@JoeYo77]

All boys

[@timomusyal7044]

Jinjer is the fucking genre!!. 😅 😎 🤘 🤘

[@rogerwheat2650]

The first growler in music was John Entwistle with The Who in 1966

[@adamhenton6221]

Aloha Geebz! Hope you're well!. I'm sure your music list is over 500 some songs deep lol. You've got to get Enslaved to the top of the list! It will change your life.

[@TheGregh1977]

Jinjer - home back

[@jforden78]

Check out Bad Water for a nearly completely clean vocal performance. Additionally, Who Will Be The One is nearly all growl. So much good Jinjer. They have a new great video out for Home Back as well.

[@mbk337]

Great stuff as always. Would recommend to you the band Moon Tooth. "Trust" is a great track to start with for them.

[@VLADPowder]

100k!!! Congrats man, you're a KZbinr now! Haha

[@gregm2325]

You know Geebz was really into the composition when he didn't even notice the cat. LOL

[@joepierce5535]

You've got your subscribers because you're a good guy.