Kim Possible | The Ron Factor Mattered

One of Kim Possible's episodes helped teach me an important lesson about foils.
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[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Ironically enough Ron is shown to be arguably more capable than Kim if he applied himself. He managed to make a lethal weapon out of literal trash, once he was made evil he effectively became a super genius who made numerous pieces of lethal technology, his Mystical Monkey Power essentially turned him into Goku, he later becomes the star running-back whose skills likely would get him into the NFL, really the only thing Kim has he doesn't is Drive and Confidence.

[@ShadyDoorags]

Ron was also canonically attractive, he just didn't take care of his hair.

[@gameb9oy]

I feel that’s making light of how capable Kim is, but it’s also not wrong

[@Starmadien2019]

Oh I remember he was scary competent as a villain. All he wanted was Nacos and he was literally prepared to end the world to get them.

[@noremac7216]

Don't forget he's literally a prophesized chosen One with magic Kung Fu powers. I love when they ask him about him being a master of Monkey kung fu his reply is, it comes and goes. Meta jokes can be hit or miss but that one landed for me

[@Devinwifi]

Ron is canonically the strongest character in the show. The reason why his powers "came and went" was so he couldn't overshadow Kim

[@iRazenrak]

"The villains can predict Kim and stop Ron, but they can't stop Kim or predict Ron." Ooofff...that line sent shivers down my spine with how it perfectly encapsulates the entire show.

[@krsynx]

So the Possible is Unstoppable and the Stoppable is Impossible.

[@Jonic_P]

I have never heard a dynamic duo better explained than this!?!?!?!? It encapsulates these types of character interactions so well!!!

[@Karlos1234ify]

A Sitch in time proved that Ron’s presence is vital.

[@ShadyDoorags]

A Sitch in Time is Kim Possible at its peak. The entire movie revolves around Kim and Ron's relationship and features four major villains, I love it so freaking much.

[@paperbagboi3185]

@@ShadyDoorags it really is, in a way he is Kim’s emotional support and anchor

[@moonlover594]

I remember playing the flash game version like a million times as a kid XD

[@da-vidcargill4975]

@@ShadyDoorags So the drama was good as well

[@Devinwifi]

@@ShadyDoorags The only thing I hate is the lack of Ron and Monkey Fist interactions, it's like the movie forgot they are arch enemies

[@mrpizzacat8273]

Shout out to a show from 20 years ago for knowing that to make a strong female character you don’t need to undermine the other gender. It’s amazing how a lot of shows forget that.

[@ShadyDoorags]

To be fair, there are a couple of episodes in the first season where the show pairs Kim up with a less competent counterpart just to make her look better; the first Global Justice episode is an example, but the message was rarely "men bad, so women good" but rather tearing down pompous know-it-alls.

[@mrpizzacat8273]

@@ShadyDoorags I’ll have to take your word on it, I need to rewatch the show soon, (probably should’ve rewatched it before stating an opinion but here we are) keep it up man.

[@ajstudios9210]

Exactly. A lot of shows forget that today.

[@Starmadien2019]

Ouch my back.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

@@ShadyDoorags I feel like the only episode where they might've done that was with Team Impossible. Despite all three of the members being fully grown men with years of combat training and experience, they are shown as extremely arrogant and easily get trashed by Kim. That episode always did urk me as logically Team Impossible should be just as competent if not more so than Kim since they've been doing this longer than she has and have the benefit of being well....grown adults.

[@1x4]

Their friendship was one of the things I loved about this show. Ron and Kim actually seemed like bestfriends. Not just people who worked together. I loved that they even ended up together romantically, though it would have been just fine without that happening. The show reached so many ages and is is still rewatchable to this day. I hope to see more videos about it.

[@ShadyDoorags]

I was personally not a fan of them ending up together romantically, but I think it worked better than most shows that forced their boy and girl leads to date. *Glares at Star vs The Forces of Evil* At the very least, the chemistry between Kim and Ron was still there and Kim's switch from friend to girlfriend in how she treated Ron was actually really sweet.

[@coolchrisable]

@@ShadyDoorags i agree star vs the forces of evil the shipping killed it for me but star had alot of other problems not jsut the shipping that i hope you can go into

[@Starmadien2019]

@@coolchrisable those last episodes hurt, especially because the studio was canceling the show and forced them to ram through every plot line for that season.

[@mechajay3358]

@@ShadyDoorags But unlike Star Vs. the Parring between Kim and Ron felt natural and not forced.

[@coolchrisable]

@@Starmadien2019 ikr it hurt cause star was a good cartoon and that last season hurt it the most.

[@rafresendenrafresenden.1644]

Ron is very competent when they aren't doing spy stuff.

[@ShadyDoorags]

Ron's skills include Monkey Kung Fu, Cooking, Running, Dodging and Mascot-ing. He also loves playing video games, but he's been caught cheating multiple times.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

@@ShadyDoorags Yup, Ron is actually insanely skilled in a lot of areas and would have plenty of opportunities. He could be a professional Football player, a Stuntman, a Professional Chef and if he ever got his act together, a highly competent scientist. I like to think Kim and Ron are demonstrations of Natural Talent vs Untapped Potential.

[@diegoizaguirre3452]

@@ShadyDoorags for the scientist part mentioned above how about you review 2 episodes that includes the infamous evil Ron (which both sort of focus on shego)

[@asbolusarawn5433]

@@thefanwithoutaface8105

[@305Independent]

"Back to the early 2000s, when everyone was goth instead of LGBT." Broooo 😂💀

[@maxstrike3022]

The goths didnt cancel anyone, chemically castrate people, and demand to privately read adult material to small children; bring back the goths.

[@elemental150]

You know, Shego was able to exploit the Ron Factor by separating Kim and Ron so that she can take over the world and become The Supreme One.

[@Dudepatrol47]

The fact that “The Ron Factor” is very real, and that both Kim and Ron are equally important to saving the world is one of the reasons I love A Stitch in Time so much! Hope to see you continue with Kim Possible in the future!

[@Starmadien2019]

OMG I love that movie! But poor Ron, his parents really didn't seem to care that he was lost for 20+ years. They just moved to the moon.

[@timkjggxyz6124]

didn't that conclude that is no Ron factor. But I think they did it from the beginning anyway? Ron is not the key for Kim's sucess. I think it is Kim herself and a bit of Ron, but just for distractions and luck

[@user-gd8ge1gq7d]

​@@timkjggxyz6124 In this episode, Kim is a hypocrite. Reproaches Ron for being "And your head got so big you could have worn that!", although sometimes she behaves the same way. If someone does something no worse than her or vice versa, better, Kim instead of admitting it or being glad, envies and whines like a little capricious child whose mother didn’t buy the toy he liked and he threw a tantrum. She's no less an envious narcissist. Ron suffered twice because of Kim's narcissism. But he's not the only victim. Her sassy twin brothers Jim and Tim suffered too. Yes, they don't have the most exemplary behavior, but even they don't deserve to suffer because of their sister's narcissism. If Kim was envious of Ron or her brothers, then in addition to envy, she threw tantrums. Therefore, in response to her reproaches, I mentally said, “Oh, oh, oh, young miss, who would say! Don’t you do the same thing sometimes? Yes, but you will do anything not to admit it, because, well, I'm Kim Possible, I can do anything, I'm so fighting, cool". Kim is an envious. Envy and narcissism are characteristic of perfectionists like her. If someone does something no worse or better, then for perfectionists and narcissists this is a control shot in the head to their ego. So it's good that I'm not a perfectionist. Plus, when people like Kim are too correct, it is very boring and uninteresting. That's why I'm a little like Ron, I prefer to relax

[@rookiewarrior6419]

Ron should have been more popular in school then he was portrayed. Dude wasn’t ugly, was very enthusiastic, actually had a lot of confidence, didn’t let his failures bother him, and can easily shrug off any embarrassment. Seriously all this could have been seen in the first episode.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Ron is unpopular because he is set up to be Kim's opposite.

[@AeroQC]

@@PlanetZoidstar Also, this show was set in the early 2000s when popularity dynamics were valued differently than they are now.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@AeroQC Yeah. Affable, clumsy dorkiness wasn't really accepted back then & to be fair, is only accepted nowadays thanks to popular culture making it okay for the average person to feel safe in acknowledging some of their foibles and feeling comfortable in knowing basically everyone is a geek for something.

[@justinschmelzel8806]

Also to be fair, we see how popular he is when everyone cheers for him at the end of the second movie finally being with kim. I wouldn't say he was unpopular, just not someone the other cheerleaders, specifically bony, liked.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@justinschmelzel8806 Yeah. Bonnie was the only one surprised by the positive reaction Kim X Ron as a couple got following the #BigDamnKiss in _So The Drama_ because she incited it, saying, "She's dating that loser! Kim Possible & Ron Stoppable are dating!" & expected many of the assembled crowd to side with her, rather than the entire assembly (except herself & some of her other cheerleader friends) cheering.

[@crislouise2509]

The only thing holding Ron back is the drive and confidence. When he applies himself he can do grate things. Heck in the episode where he turns evils and gains the drive and confidence he's shown to be the most competent villain in the show even scaring shego. In a future episode where he turns evil again we see him use his monkey fu to grate affect.

[@danschmo7413]

great*

[@sidblack728]

**effect

[@enigmatic3194]

***.

[@mhollis1989]

You missed the part where Kim literally interrupts the intro to make sure she heard correctly that Global Justice wanted Ron.

[@canadacaden3266]

The fact the song was brought up and this wasn't mentioned was a colossal missed opportunity.

[@rosestar1324]

That honestly is a sin that he didn't mention that tbh

[@Oscar_SanJuan]

You hit the nail on the head that Kim and Ron are nearly perfect foils of each other. One detail that really displays how essential Kim and Ron are to each other is Sitch in Time. Sure, Shego confirms that they're a great team, but she doesn't know why. Earlier in the special however, Kim went on her first mission to rescue the rich Cuddle Buddy collector. As they arrive to the mansion, Kim's confidence falters, thinking that she really can't do this. Ron nips this in the butt right away as he provided insanely vital encouragement, stating that Kim can really do anything. It seems like if Ron wasn't there, Kim Possible wouldn't have taken that first step to being the Kim Possible of the present day. The writers of this show were absolutely incredible in keeping the continuity and having subtlety.

[@halleyangel1706]

Kim Possible is a Show that Disney should've never tried to remake.

[@Match25]

if they do since she is a red head they will recast her as black, give her a half shaved head, outright state she at minimum bi, make Ron a complete idiot, and everyone at school's every dialog being how amazing she is

[@ShadyDoorags]

Disney has proven with DuckTales that they can do a competent remake if they want to. Unfortunately, good remakes in general are few and far between.

[@yeayea8226]

Kim would become a strong independed lesbian and she would fight against the white man with her besy friend black ron

[@halleyangel1706]

@@yeayea8226 You mean like they tried to do

[@halleyangel1706]

@@ShadyDoorags And Good Female characters are a dying breed

[@King_George_VI]

You’re also so right about the villains adding so much to the programme-Doctor Drakken and Shego had a great dynamic together, a golf club-swinging Scottish stereotype, a motorbike/monster truck loving hick stereotype, etc. Kim and Ron are amazing by themselves and even better together. Their friendship really was so endearing and they really helped each other grow to become better people. As unrealistic as some of the show was, there was also so much realism in the awkwardness of being a teen, the school stuff, and even pointing to Kim’s genetics being a major help. This show had so much built into it that made it a true classic.

[@scottjs5207]

I love how Shego only follows Drakken because he actually wants to conquer the world while more competent villains are either too whiny or don't have large enough ambitions.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@scottjs5207 Yet, by the series' end, both Dr. D & She-Go reform and renounce their previous bad guy ways, so that's not necessarily true. Besides, She-Go has proven that she doesn't necessarily need Dr. Drakken to achieve her goals, she just likes being around him, as much as she's not open to admitting it aloud.

[@wjzav1971]

"Kim is the competent one who can do anything, while Ron is the unpredictable one who will try anything." That is a perfect summary of their dynamic. And it was well shown in "A Sitch in Time" how Kim is by far not as successfull when Ron isn't around.

[@POIUYTREWQ62]

It's fitting that this came out when it did. I just finished binging the entire series of Kim Possible. Still love the show to death.

[@314jeepsnmopars3]

they also just celebrated its 20th anniversary too.

[@fieryphoenix586]

The 90's and early 2000's were a great two decades of cartoons.

[@eeveefennecfox]

yup

[@anthonysmith3415]

Can't disagree

[@condog209]

Kim's Cousin's Joss Said it best at how it's easy to brave in the face of danger when you're as skilled Kim but being a complete buffoon like Ron and still facing danger is impressive

[@mushymcmushington7176]

Two decades later and there still hasn't been such a strong "Oh my God they finally got together" moment as Kim and Ron. Kid me was sure they were just best friends and then BOOM, the writers show me what I'll never have.

[@c.w.k.n.5117]

Lol yeah I loved the romance even though I didn't even realize I needed it

[@LydiaKrow]

Man, you REALLY hit the nail on the head with this. I've tried to explain this show to people for YEARS, and I was a full-grown adult when I watched this the first time. And yes, the villains were so on point in this show... they managed to stay in the villain zone but occasionally came across as likable and even sympathetic, but you still couldn't root for them like you could Kim or Ron. Perfect. Some of these shows were just unexpectedly good!

[@josephbolton5893]

Like the time Ron got super fat by eating only Bueno Nacho. When he came across all those villians they didnt attack him. They all looked concerned about how he had gotten so fat.

[@limelantern5637]

It kind of seems like Kim thrives most when she's multitasking. Part of the draw of the show is how Kim juggles her ordinary life with being agent for hire. Kim can see more angles I a situation when she has more than one situation in consideration, she can save the world and navigate working with Ron better when she's doing them at the same time.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

I loved Kim Possible as a kid! it was such a badass cartoon for it's time!

[@noremac7216]

The Everyman sidekick trope really does get a lot of crap but I think Ron transcends it. He still checks all the boxes but he is legitimately competent and has his own really intriguing character arc with the Monkey kung fu that lasts throughout the series. In fact Ron really gets as much attention from the writers as Kim does and the efforts they put into him really show

[@Jackie-McCann]

Another excellent example of two characters being great foils to each other and having good synergy is in fact ANOTHER prominent duo in this series, and that would be its main villains, Dr. Drakken and Shego. Their dynamic is *near-identical* to Kim and Ron’s, with Drakken being the funny guy and Shego the straight-woman. And much like how Kim’s success in repeatedly saving the world is thanks to her strong teamwork with Ron, most of Drakken’s world domination plans (even though they always end in failure) wouldn’t even have gotten off the ground without Shego. As we see in Season 4’s “Stop Team Go!”, the dude couldn’t even _open a jar of pickles_ without her. They bring out the best (or arguably the WORST) in each other, and it makes them as solid a team as Kim and Ron, not to mention their most formidable foes.

[@lucasmartinez5703]

Hey they even end up together as a couple in the end (well it's implied) and it didn't feel any more forced then Kim and Ron's to me.

[@Jackie-McCann]

@@lucasmartinez5703 Exactly!

[@dime-a-thousand8002]

Kim Possible is what Marinette Dupain-Cheng wishes she could be.

[@matthewbraith0411]

Marinette is one of the worst main characters ever.

[@DonniedrakoE]

Even 2 decades later KP's character dynamics and humor holds up amazingly well.

[@justjoannak]

Agreed

[@anthonygillette]

Honestly doing Kim Possible is genius. I watch a lot of channels that break down cartoons and not many do KP. Hope to see more, never know if it’s just nostalgia goggles or if the show was good

[@luxordfaith8506]

Kim Possible was Disney's number 1 show until Phineas and Ferb took the number 1 slot.

[@DDarkestKnight]

That's the thing with networks eventually a new show will be their #1. Kim Possible to Phineas and Ferb to Big City Greens

[@scottjs5207]

No, it's definitely good. The one thing a bunch of older shows lack though seems to be sounds effects or music. I've rewatched some old episodes of KP and Jackie Chan adventures and I was surprised by how quiet they seemed. There's still good sound design and voice acting but it didn't seem to fill the air as much as with modern shows.

[@bluebird1914]

Man I love this show. I especially love how as you pointed out, Kim isn't your typical underdog, infact she's the complete opposite. She's smart, pretty, athletic, popular and rich. In most other shows a character like that would be annoying or a Mary sue. Honestly props to the writers of Kim Possible for making what is essentially a privileged as hell teenage girl not only likeable, but enjoyable to watch without it feeling like victory is being handed to her or that she has plot armor.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

The thing is, outside of the show's context, she does have plot armor. She is, after all, the main protagonist. Furthermore, within the confines of the show itself, Kim has many attributes in her favor, but her societal issues & occasional lack of humility prevent her from stepping over the line into "practically perfect" Mary Sue territory.

[@kaytlinjustis5643]

Plus, she has flaws too. Despite her 'can do anything' motto, Kim has been shown to have her weaknesses, too. For one thing, she can't cook, and a few episodes are shown that Ron - the goofy sidekick who messes up almost everything - CAN. Another thing is that Kim has trouble asking a guy to the dance, despite the fact that she is one of the most popular girls at school, where Ron asks literally EVERY girl to said dance! These flaws make Kim a great character because it shows her that even the smartest, strongest person CAN have problems, but can OVERCOME them as well, ie. Kim's ability to hit the high notes to shatter the ice preventing her escape, whilst previously, she had trouble during earlier practice. Kim and Ron's foil continually works great because they literally balance each other out! ^^

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@kaytlinjustis5643 Exactly.

[@rosestar1324]

I agree except she's not necessarily rich. She had to babysit to pay for her own prom dress (and it is implied it was a LOT of babysitting too and not a one day thing), her car was a very old pos that only looked nice in the end cuz her brothers tricked it out for her.

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

The way you gave context to calling Dr. Dir. "Femme Double-D" was so smooth.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

3:56 Also that explanation only works on explaining why she's so intelligent not why she's so good at fighting, neither of her parents are physically gifted.

[@thealmightypharaoh7106]

The Holy Trinity of early 2000s action shows, Ben 10, Danny phantom, Kim Possible

[@balanc-joy9187]

First King of the Hill, now Kim Possible, and possibly (heh-heh) later Ed Edd n Eddy?! You are really _exceeding_ that subscription from me Shady... Keep up the entertainment!! Two thumbs up!

[@Silverlined_69]

This was my favorite Disney Channel cartoon as a kid. Still holds up

[@franciscorui]

One observation that someone made that I saw said that, ironically, Kim has a hard time making friends and dealing with social situations while Ron can make friends easily and handle things as they come.

[@user-mx4is4fx3c]

What I love about Kim and Ron's dynamic is that it was him that was friendzoning her until they got together as opposed to the more common opposite.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

Not necessarily. Most of the supporting characters in the show earnestly felt (or outright said) that Ron was a hapless loser who was out of Kim's league, but because of their childhood as long-time besties ever since elementary school, it was a natural, slow burn progression & their constantly being together - both as teenage students attending school as well as an athletic super spy & affable doofus sidekick complementary rescue team duo - only made things stronger, because viewers were shown that Kim fails more when the episode focuses on something Ron is better at than her & she also fails when put with anyone else but Ron as her partner, so as it's almost as if they were fated to be together.

[@rosestar1324]

It is not really friendzoning. Ron definitely thought Kim was attractive and considered dating her. But because in school they are in different peer leagues and he was worried it would mess up their friendship, he decided initially not to date her. Friendzoning means turning someone down due to a lack of romantic or sexual interest in that person. Ron definitely doesn't fit that category.

[@Match25]

when they could make a strong woman and make her likable

[@wafflebroz]

Because they wrote a strong character that happens to be a girl

[@scottjs5207]

@@wafflebroz because they wrote a good character that happens to be both a girl and strong.

[@istoppedcaring6209]

look back to "a stitch in time" and this is revisited and actually proven The moment Kim and Ron are forced to break up the team because Shego got ron's mom transfered to norway, everything goes wrong for Kim, she remains her usual amazing self but without the dynamic she fails, Shego admits at the end that the reason she did it is that despite not actually having a high oppinion of Ron or Kim for that matter she realizes that putting both of them together makes for an amazing duo, the reason we love Kim despite her having very little flaws is because she does have flaws and because unlike most such shows, Ron isn't the perpetual lacky and bud of the joke, Ron has a good number of episodes where he got to shine, and usually those are also the ones where Kim suffers. Take the home ed classes, Kim wanted to do fotography but she and ron end up being forced to do the one course nobody wanted. Barkin is forced to give it(again) because apparantly the usual teacher has been gone for years and nobody realized because nobody took that class but the beauty is that Ron blossoms here, he in fact becomes a veritable superstar in the school, everybody wants a chance at his gastronomic excelence, Kim however fails miserably, eventually she is made to be Ron's assistent ergo, basically the new lunch lady, she get's to experience what it must be to be the Ron to his Kim for a change and they actually appreciate eachother even more by the end, same situation with the job at bueno nacho, Kim blows it off as unimportant compared to saving the world whilst Ron actually finds that he shines there, and as a result does not want to leave, eventually ron comes to save Kim with rufus anyway and they appologize another thing that makes it great is that there aren't many cheap thropes, when Ron is set up for a "boy who cried wolf" scenario the audience expects exactly that to happen, ergo Kim not believing that the diablo toys came to live, but whilst everybody laughs it up she actually takes it serious, that is the way to subvert expectations, Kim had no reason at that moment to believe it, her eyes seemed to indicate that there were no evil toys but her history with Ron told her that he wouldn't make something like that up and that he isn't crazy

[@TheUnseenPath]

I just wish they didn't have to put one down to raise the other.

[@istoppedcaring6209]

@@TheUnseenPath they didn't really, or not in the bad way, Kim and Ron both have skills, Ron is an amazing cook, Kim is a better student and superb athlete

[@SallyBMcgill]

Yes, season 4 actually did a good job of raising them both up with their strengths as opposed to just emphasizing their opposing traits. That's why it's my favorite (also because Kim and Ron were dating).😊

[@rosestar1324]

@@TheUnseenPath I wouldn't really consider the show putting one character down to raise the other. People have strengths and flaws. The show just chose to focus on some things Ron is good at because most of the time we see stuff Kim is really good at. It was just Ron's time to shine in those moments. It also gives us time to focus on Kim's jealousy issue. She HATES when she's not the best since she's so good at so many things. And it's natural for some teens to not be immediately happy if their friend (especially a friend who many see as inferior to her) succeed. But Kim learns that it's ok to not be the best and apologizes for being salty and admits Ron's got his talents.

[@skylerloggins4902]

​@@istoppedcaring6209I actually like that Kim believed Ron without insulting him or calling crazy even when her boyfriend Eric completely dismissed Ron a crazy showing despite everything she will always believe and trust Ron.

[@Tazpa]

The thing is that the ron factor actually showed itself more in the Kim possible movie a. A. Sitch in time where Kim and Ron were separated and Kim couldn't do everything because she didn't have her distraction /partner. Ron

[@JonathanThe501st]

To this day I can feel a piece of my soul reserving a small memory dedicated to knowing the fact that Ron has an addiction to Bueno Nacho food.

[@andrewsutherland133]

Shady: there's only so much I can say "they told a joke and it was funny" without it getting repetitive. His fanbase: wants him to refer to, react and explain every joke ever told on king of the hill

[@fairydust9527]

I always loved Kim and Ron's dynamic in the show. Even though the decision for them to become a couple later on felt a bit odd I can't complain too much. They knew eachother for years and the show always emphasized how much they needed and cared for eachother. I also appreciated that their dynamic didn't change too much after they become a couple.

[@lucasmartinez5703]

Then being best friends with a great relationship is what made them becoming a couple feel more natural when it evolved into that later. It didn't feel forced at all to me and a lot of shows fail to get that right.

[@turtswing]

You explained everything so perfectly! Kim and Ron are indeed a golden duo, the skilled and the unpredictable, the talented and the energetic. Watching the two of them interacting is always a joy: even tho' they're really different, their dynamic is really solid and natural. That's why seeing them getting together as a couple is actually a welcome upgrade: its foundation has a really strong base. **

[@madisoncook1750]

Honestly, this episode is one of the biggest reasons why I'm such a big fan of the Kim/Ron ship even though I hated it as a kid. I can count on one hand the number of male/female cartoon duos who are evenly matched and who genuinely respect each other. It always seems like they make the guy WAY too incompetent and the girl way too critical and/or overpowered. There have been so many shows (looking at you, adult animation) where you're left wondering "What the hell did she see in that idiot?" Make no mistake, Ron's an idiot, but he's ALSO incredibly outgoing, sympathetic, laid back, and creative - all things that Kim herself struggles with. When all you see is action, it can be easy to brush him off as just another goofy sidekick, but when you actually watch their day-to-day interactions, it becomes clear that she can be just as clumsy and flawed as he is. Even if many people dislike the ship or would rather have stayed friends, I think that Kim and Ron just had to happen. It's the culmination of the (albeit limited) growth that the two went through over the seasons. Ron had to gain confidence in his own abilities before he really saw himself dating someone like Kim, and while Kim was shown to be interested in him several times throughout the series, she still had to learn to let go of what other people thought of them before she was ready to take that leap. They helped each other to grow by supporting one another, and it just so happened to result in a relationship that both of them wanted but neither were ready for until that point. It was surprisingly mature, ESPECIALLY for mid-00s Disney Channel. Anyway, I'm super late to the party so I'm probably just shouting into the ether at this point, lol. I just really respect what they did with this ship and I never get the chance to talk about it.

[@jedd.0322]

I'm glad some KZbinr is finally covering this classic

[@zanesardonyx6542]

I loved the fact that the Ron Factor was kind of a plot point in the movie as well. Shego using time travel puts events in place to allow her to take over the world. While looking through kims and rons past adventures she acknowledges that when they are together they always win she never understood why but she accepted it and had rons family moved as far away as possible which led to Kims next few missions ending in failure.

[@christopherauzenne5023]

despite how bad or on the nose some of the pun names can get in the show, Senor senior senior and Senor senior junior are still god-tear puns to me and deserve an award

[@theamazingmaymay123]

Kim and Ron played off each other so well. Like there was never a time were I REALLY disliked either. And Kim herself isn’t big headed about anything either

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

Kim can be big-headed. Her motto is "I can do anything" & her family's motto is "Anything's possible for a Possible". To quote Planet Zoidstar: *We've seen plenty of times that Kim can be quite prideful and elitist (like when she got stuck on designer clothes because she was too proud to settle for less) as she's not used to being shown up or seen as less important than someone else, especially Ron. She cites her parents' qualities as being why she's so good, so while she downplays them, she genuinely seems to believe she is intrinsically better than most people at many things, which she canonically is.* *I'm fine for Kim to have pride as one of her primary flaws, it's just I see humility as something that doesn't come naturally to her. Between her innate talent, skill, effortless popularity, and how she's consistently the best at what she does. She may struggle in more mundane ways, but those generally aren't glamorous or highly valued things.* *The whole Ron Factor thing bugs her because it calls her Spy skill into question, her strongest asset is being attributed to Ron of all people. So her pride being hurt by that is understandable, Kim, the effortless prodigy, is not being given the credit and praise she feels she is due. Her sidekick is being singled out as her primary reason for succeeding at what comes naturally to her.*

[@user-gd8ge1gq7d]

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh When Kim said to Ron "And your head got so big you could have worn that!" and "See?! That's what I mean. You are so prone to big-headiness" I mentally said “Oh, oh, oh, who would say, young miss! Aren’t you like that too sometimes? Yes, you’re like that too, you just don’t want to admit it, because, well, I’m Kim Possible, I can do anything!". If someone turns out to be better at something than Kim, or does something just as good as her, like Ron (at working at Bueno Nacho or cooking) or her sassy twin brothers Jim and Tim, or Tweebs, as she calls them for their unangelic behavior, Kim, instead of admitting it or being happy, is jealous and whines, like a little capricious child whose mother didn’t buy the toy he liked and he threw a tantrum. In one of the episodes, while investigating a series of thefts committed by the same person, framing celebrities, Jim and Tim suggested that the thief could be a person changing his appearance, but Kim did not take the brothers’ version seriously, because she's too mad that they're obnoxious, sassy boys and hooligans, but by not taking Tweebs' words seriously, Kim is behaving no better than her brothers. Later, Jim and Tim conducted their own investigation and brought the true thief to light. Yes, they don't have the most exemplary behavior, but they are not devils in a child’s body, although at first glance one might think so, but rather noble pirates. I like that despite their unangelic behavior, Jim and Tim are determined and confident boys, and if we add in their cheerful disposition and optimism, then I admire

[@hypnoticskull6342]

Kim and Ron are the best version of characters bouncing off of each other

[@buddyryusukanku1886]

Ron's biggest handicap to being on Kim's level for competence is that while Kim's family was always there for her (even if on speakerphone), Ron was a latchkey kid. On Mother's Day he wanted to do something with his mom... and she left him alone to clean out the garage. So Ron never grew up with the same familial support that Kim did. Heck, when his parents adopted a young child as his new baby sister... they automatically put her into HIS care and vanished for the rest of the episode. If Ron wasn't such a good big brother to her, that kid would grow up just as neglected as Ron was.

[@ElisaWolfM]

I’m actually friends of the family of the voice of Ron. But before growing up I never realized his voice. I’m 27 and always enjoy watching videos showing his work for voicing acting. This was my childhood idk why it took me this long to find your channell. Maybe it bc not many ppl or channels look back at the past of good showes.

[@JustA-Person]

Thank you! Kim Possible is about Kim AND Ron! He’s the second main character of the show and let’s face it we all can’t imagine the show without him!

[@JustA-Person]

@@jfk2428 perfect exactly couldn’t have said it better myself u get it this post makes me wanna rewatch the show again

[@JustA-Person]

@@jfk2428 Ron is definitely more observant than he gives himself credit for but I wouldn’t say that he’s hiding some sort of secret intelligence from Kim or anything like that more like he’s just “smart” in a different way than her

[@JustA-Person]

@@jfk2428 I actually really like how you put that idea even though they’re friends and later dating they still have personal secrets all close friends just have that one thing they won’t tell each other and that doesn’t mean their relationship has to fall apart sometimes keeping a secret can be healthy (as long as it doesn’t effect anybody else)

[@perseusjackson3998]

Ron is honestly my favorite character

[@TheTrueDiablix]

I love how it ended up being Shego, someone who had fought the duo a million times over, was the first to really grasp that it was them specifically as a team that was the threat with A Sitch In Time.

[@paperbagboi3185]

I’m glad that you talked about Kim and Ron’s dynamic and why they work so well together. People tend to overlook Ron and Kim a little when talking about the show despite them being the protagonist (I don’t blame them though because the villains are the best part of it) So, your review of the show is greatly appreciated Now, that we are talking about it. It’s interesting that you chose to review this episode from all the others (You did l explained why though, it does showcase Kim and Ron dynamic pretty well) What would you say is your favorite character, episode and dynamic of the show?

[@HenshinHeroesMedia]

Glad the writers gave that call back with the whole ron and monkey kung fu thing when he goes to ninja school. Yes, ron bumbles but he still helps to fight against evil.

[@NWCountryGirl17]

GJ isn't the only one who thinks Ron is CRUCIAL To Kim's success... Remember 'A Sitch in Time' when Future Shego was like "I won BECAUSE I broke you up as a team"

[@philljustphill1656]

Looking back Kim and Ron's relationship is natural and wholesome and everyone knew they liked eachother and the audience shipped it but it wasn't like a relationship that gives nothing in the duration of the show then goes out with a big climax more like their everyday interactions are what fueled the ship and not a kiss scene or a confession like how most anime end up doing...

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

They did do a "Big Damn Kiss" scene in _So the Drama_ after pretty boy Eric was proven to be a robotic drone who used Kim's teenage hormones against her & Ron finally found the courage to admit to Kim that he liked her beyond friendship. So, when Kim's school rival Bonnie Rottweiler announced that "Kim's dating that loser. Kim Possible & Ron Stoppable are dating!" during the prom, the assembled crowd -- Bonnie excluded -- simply applauded & ate up the fact that Kim & Ron had become an item.

[@pichugirl6]

If I see a Kim Possible show, and dare to bing watch them all, I'll need an endless supply of Tacobell food/make my own mexican food

[@hypnoticskull6342]

Ron is really scary when you think about it. Goddamn, seriously

[@paperbagboi3185]

Remember the time he became evil for a little while? Like you said scary.

[@Vaporvision]

Would love to see more Kim Possible, the show genuinely is really well written and the characters are great and feel full

[@jackventure3703]

I like how in “A Sitch In Time” Future Shego straight up confirms the Ron factor by revealing the way she managed to conquer the planet and defeat Kim was by getting Ron sent Norway.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

And it’s for this reason that Shego won in A Sitch in Time. She saw this fact very clearly and took Kim and Ron away from each other. She was the only person who correctly saw that despite how absurd it is, Kim and Ron make an amazing team. Without Ron, Kim can’t save the world and without Kim, Ron can’t have his own confidence or his own shortcomings still matter when they shouldn’t. And Shego is still to this day the only villain of Kim and Ron’s smart enough to realize this, which is why she briefly wins in Sitch in Time.

[@flyingpastakitty]

I loved Kim Possible! It's an awesome show!

[@austinmccormick8952]

Great job for Ron wanting it in writing

[@postapocalypse0763]

11:30 I don't watch current shows so hearing that sidekick connection made me laugh more than it should

[@King_George_VI]

The music/theme song still slaps and you are 100% right-if you didn’t watch this as a kid, you had a lousy childhood. You’re also right about Doctor Director sounding bizarre, yet Kim Possible and Ron Stoppable sound perfectly normal. Nostalgia at its best.

[@black997rose]

That intro song hit hard back in day still does ❤❤❤

[@alankohn6709]

Ron is done so well, accident prone and clumsy but never incompetent in fact he's a star athlete, a little scatter brained but never stupid (in fact When Ron goes evil gaining the laser like focus he is the single most powerful and dangerous person on the planet) and he is Kim's perfect balance She's linear he's lateral and if you've watched the show waaaay to many times like me you realise a lot of the time Ron is two steps ahead unfortunately it is often of himself. Plus he love Kim and if she is ever in real danger that will focus Ron and a focused Ron is a force to be reckoned with in fact in episode 2 'Sink or Swim' it is Ron who formulates and carries out an elaborate if a little Rube Goldberg plan successfully defeating the villain and saving Kim. Plus Kim is a strong female character with out belittling the male characters.

[@trinityrodriquez5476]

My childhood rocked because of this show, the animation, the theme song and the funny and heartfelt moments in every episode and of course the variety of villains because the show never became stale because of the villains themselves, there will never be another show like Kim Possible.

[@eliasaltenberg]

Kim possible was just a fun show to watch. It had fun characters, ridiculous and fun plots, and the ending to the show felt well rounded. You would think people would learn from examples like that.

[@David_Mattox]

2:47 and then the theme song plays! In which Kim actually interrupted her own theme song. I found that rather funny when the episode aired.

[@zacjumpman209]

I love Gemini, because he knows he's evil and is proud of it. Those are the most entertaining villains.

[@draykohunter6805]

12:00 I sincerely regret not subscribing before today, not only did you just encapsulate some of the common writing techniques that have been sorely missed from some recent western media as if they've been forgotten, in both animation and live action, but you did it with one of my favorite shows from my childhood.

[@jakekreeger5318]

Fun fact about Ron. He was based on Jackie Chan’s Stock comedy character being an awkward dork getting in way over his head, from his early career as a martial arts actor Unfortunately, that element of his character was dropped less and less as the seasons went on

[@pablocasas5906]

Ron is such a great character that his Latin American dub voice actor, Enzo Fortuny, considers him his favorite role, and Enzo has voiced characters like Inuyasha, Natsu, Frodo, Miyuki Shirogane, Arnold from Hey Arnold!, among others

[@XyKP1fan]

I would love to see more Kim Possible vids from you. It’s was my favorite Disney show growing up and I’m curious on your thoughts on the couple relationship compared to their prior “just a friend” and how it adds or compares. But great vid. I know it’s was two years about but still fantastic

[@NanoScream]

Whoa hold up. Goths were not the clique of the aughts. It was Scene Kids which were and are very different from Goths.

[@noxturne16]

i absolutely adore this show, really inspire me and showed healthy friendships and relationships while being super fun and cool

[@lindthechaoticheretic8708]

I've been reminiscing about this show a lot lately. I still love that one episode a bout Shego's family, or when team impossible shows up because Kim is hurting their business, or when everybody get's sick but they still have to get the experimental machine that no one actually knows what it does and Ron saves Kim from a dragon. Also the Naked Mole Rap is still amazing fuck you don't fight me I'm delicate.

[@liamvautier944]

Hoping to see more Kim Possible episodes on the channel Loved your insight on their dynamic!!!❤❤❤

[@CarlosRodriguez-ze5bc]

Been a huge fan for a long time love you bro hope life's been treating you good

[@notakirakarakaza2118]

Damn yo this show was rad. I think, after like 15 years, it's time for a rewatch.

[@RoninRen]

although a little irrelevant, did anybody else get the vibe that if they made more episodes centered on villains pretending to date/be interested in Ron, just to get to Kim, it would have pushed them into their romantic relationship much earlier?

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

Well, don't forget, when Yuri (the Japanese girl who was interested in "Stoppable-san", although Ron himself was oblivious to this) appeared, Kim was visibly jealous. Ditto for whenever Ron became successful & her school rival Bonnie fawned all over him.

[@thefederalrepublicoferusea3900]

0:28 I do believe that this is the most outta pocket thing shady has ever said. But it's funny and I'm too young to argue.

[@1gunnerShock]

Would love to see a video where you talk about how the slapstick in Edd Ed & Eddy stills hold up today

[@richdurbin6146]

I love how Rufus got his own music cue.

[@chillstoneblakeblast3172]

Nice video as always. I wished I got to enjoy more Kim Possible when I had the chance but It was good for the little I saw.

[@moverton500]

I remember when the show came out, I like the commercial promos for it so much I made sure to catch the premier of the series.

[@DragonStar524]

See and this is why I loved this show. Kim and Ron cover bases where they don't tend to excel in. Kim and Ron compliment each other.

[@Zaelin94]

What he was saying about comedic foils is exactly how one of the greatest duos in comedy split up. Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. The audience would always like Jerry more because he made them laugh and didnt realize Dean was the reason the comedy hit so well. Nor did they acknowledge he was funny in his own right.

[@jescis0]

Makes me wonder if a bunch more were like that? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Abbott And Costello? George Burns and Gracie? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Lucille Ball and Desi Arnez(Ricky Ricardo)? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Seems like a lot of people didn't really understand the concept… 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@Zaelin94]

@jescis0 they only see the funny guy but they don't realize in a duo there always needs to be a straight man otherwise the jokes don't land.

[@C0ldIron]

As a teen from the mid 00s I am eager to see more of these.

[@Rcb4th]

I love you for the TFS call back

[@AhmadRiyal]

dude this video is so well written

[@neutral7786]

In Sitch in time it is confirmed that Kim cannot succeed in the missions without Ron

[@Agent_N7]

I like to think that it's their Synergy. the sitch in time movie showed that they work really well together.

[@TheMilitantHorse]

Ron being swayed by Faux-Mexican food is a great weakness. I would be swayed with that too.

[@yanahakai]

I'm up for more Kim Possible episode retrospectives!

[@elizabethescalante7866]

I freaking LOVED THIS SHOW AS A KID!!!! Me and my cousin would wake up early every Saturday morning to watch this and sing the theme song!!!! And we'd laugh our asses off at the running gag of Ron loosing his pants and Dr. Draken!!

[@XanderVJ]

"From the distant decade of the 2000s". .... Hi, sweet, sweet scent of approaching death!