King Kapisi on religion and early missionaries in Samoa

[@lokir]

The most dangerous people to an oppressive power structure is someone who has the ability to critically think and has the courage to ask questions.

[@letitburnforever2122]

Or are smart enough to know religion is full of shit

[@frannyloco9314]

But thinking the word came from a big bang is smarter?

[@alelokaoseumu]

@@frannyloco9314 people don't necessarily have to choose between science or religion. But if you should know, Big Bang was a discovery of a Roman Catholic Priest... a Christian

[@ernestheremia9595]

they call those wolves with sheep clothing, only ready to release or help those who are willing to see what the blind do not

[@Finnius_Prime]

Its good to know that I'm not the only Samoan that feels this way. You da best King Kapisi!

[@nooneisrightallthetime-zv7hs]

It’s good to question uso. But in the end even the smartest people on their deathbeds concluded that god was real.

[@TheIsaPerezShow]

This is an amazing podcast. I wanted to research the indigenous beliefs of Somoans and all I can find is christianity and things after colonization.

[@allikohcysp]

My Uso ✊🏽. I’m also atheist. With or without religion, all you need is to have a good heart.

[@Saili.Ahmann]

The bible says the heart is wicked and deceitful🙏 are you sure you have a good heart???? The reality is we all make mistakes....I’m a sinner just like everyone but how I’m justified of my sins is the through the blood of Jesus. You can say you have a good heart but do you really have a good heart?

[@allikohcysp]

@@Saili.Ahmann I’m not perfect but I know I love my family and people in general no matter their race, sexual orientation or beliefs. I’m not worried about what the bible says because I don’t believe in it. All that matters to me in a person is that they are good people. That is proven through acts of kindness, nothing more. If there was a God, I would be horrified to know that you would have to hold him above your loved ones. I can’t imagine loving something/someone more than my children, my wife, my parents, my siblings, my family and friends.

[@Saili.Ahmann]

@@allikohcysp at the end of the day everything we have is temporary...your family, your job, your house. If you don’t wanna put god first that’s totally up to you uso. But remember Mark 8:36 what good is for a man to gain the whole world, but lose his soul. I hope whatever your searching for in this life is worth it. You only get one chance and then your gone forever into eternity. Nothing in this world will truely satisfy you....until you find your purpose which is only in Christ. Jeremiah 29:11 - For I know the plans I have for you declares the lord, plans to prosper you and not harm you. Plans to give you hope and a future. God loves you so much man. He knows you by name way before you came into this world. He has a big purpose for you and he wants you to come to him, but it’s up to you. Romans 5:8 - God demonstrates his love for us, in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us. That’s how much god loves you......if only you knew.

[@allikohcysp]

@@Saili.Ahmann I can’t put god before my kid’s lives. Saying I love god more than them would be a lie and if there is a god, he would know. Even if I say it or try to think it, deep down in my heart, it would still be a lie. I respect your beliefs my uso, and I hope you are not offended by mine. I thank you for giving me your time and sharing your thoughts because I know you have good intentions that comes from a place of love ✌🏽.

[@StandardProcedures79]

@Ualeai Sekupe that’s FACTS bro!! 💯 Religion was introduced through slavery!

[@vailima49aston99]

King Kaps made me think carefully about who I am and where my roots came from including religion and the white mans god is not a part of it ! ❤️ thank u King Kaps

[@StandardProcedures79]

I’m glad it did brother. ✊🏾 that’s all our people have to do is just open your mind and THINK lol. Oh I was fortunate enough to have a family who listened to his albums religiously way back in the early 2000’s, so I got to hear what the King was trying to teach our people at a very young age and that stuck with me. So by the time I was in intermediate, I started questioning EVERYTHING! And got the hidings of my life because of it 😂😂 so without King Kapisi I wouldn’t have become the proud Tongan atheist that I am today. You should definitely listen to his album, ‘Savage Thoughts’. There’s a song called Fix Amnesia which really hits different 💯

[@ryoung8891]

There are many that believe that the black races are more closely related than they realize and at one point the American blacks and the island blacks and many others once occupied a great Kingdom founded by 12 brothers which produced 12 great nations each tribe having their own role...Kings, Priest, Musicians, Warriors etc... And it was a very powerful Kingdom but It was destroyed but outside jealous nations and domestic wars... Which resulted in Many being taken into captivity/slavery while many fled to the islands and started a new society..But the same enemies were the same ones that colonized the world with the help of others and went throughout the world searching for all the descendants of the 12 Brothers to change their history, language and names and dilute their bloodline by bringing in other races.. and making sure no more great Kingdoms were being established...Did you ever hear of that??

[@LycanQueen1]

Wow. Its crazy how so many other cultures have to deal with this. I'm a black atheist who has ancestry in the south and am amazed by the mental slavery that goes on. Ppl who will shame and fight their own because they're conditioned sheep. Those same Europeans put American natives in correction schools and starved and beat them until they were stripped of their names and culture, but yet natives with European names will still defend Christianity and "the bible" while forgetting their own ways. Sad

[@JMz685]

Christianity isn't just a european religion. Christianity from it's beggining was never a white religion, it was started by 1st Century Jews. Some of the most influential early Church Fathers were African and in fact their were African Missionaries that went to Europe well before Europeans went around the world. Defending the Bible doesn't mean forgetting our own ways. You can both remember your culture and be a Christian, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Maybe people abused people under the guise of Christianity but that nonetheless does not mean that people are mindless sheep and in fact many people have good reasons to be a Christian.

[@user-in1yw9ty5t]

Religion is culture. Pagan culture is not of Christ

[@StandardProcedures79]

@@JMz685 how about if I told you your Jesus didn’t know anything about Christianity?

[@ryoung8891]

@@JMz685 Amen! If someone doesn’t realize let them know The Original Jews were not white Europeans

[@Hannacy2005]

I enjoyed this subject. I also questioned this when I was about 19 or 20 years old. It was almost like i committed a sin for simply questioning what if??? ive not thought or touched on the subject in a while because of the way people make you feel when you think different. But this one really takes me back and made me feel like its ok to think outside the triangle and its ok to have your own opinions about such a touchie subject for alot of people.

[@ryoung8891]

Are you from Somoa?

[@nshorus5001]

“When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.”― Jomo Kenyatta

[@faigameati]

Wrong cause we still have our lands

[@MrBlack_nz]

Christianity was born in Israel and Africans were Christians before the Europeans my blind brother

[@erickrzr3408]

💯 religion is a instrument of control . Karl Marx " Love these conversations, people too sensitive these days . Seki podcast

[@JMz685]

Karl Marx said that "Religion is the opium of the people". He did say that, but it has no real substance. It is a statement but we have no reason to believe it is true or that it is only religion that is used as an instrument of control. (Funny thing is that Marxism/Communism is one of the most deadly ideologies of the past 100 years, it was a tool of control and genocide like the Soviet Union and now modern day China where they censor and arrest journalists and there are millions of people in concentration camps in China). People use anything to control people even good things, for some religion is used to control for others it gives them freedom. It is cool to have a conversation about this stuff nonetheless. :)

[@CanaanEne]

@@JMz685 Marx is also probably not the best judge of character 😂

[@erickrzr3408]

@@JMz685 100 percent agree . Looked more into what you mentioned. Thanks for that uce . I guess I meant to say in the context of the conversation mentioned in the video. Religion was used as an instrument control in the early colonization days and I feel a lot of people do not like to acknowledge that .

[@JMz685]

@@erickrzr3408 Yeah uce. All good I see what you mean bro 😁❤

[@JMz685]

@@CanaanEne Haha, yeah well 😂💀

[@KingdomWithin7]

Ok we need to do a podcast Collab my bro there's more to history than the majority knows. Let me know if you would like to do this uso?🙏

[@writingsonthewall188]

Just checked out your channel and I have to say you've got some very interesting videos. I am glad I ran into your channel and absolutely subbed. Our people need more education thank you uso👊🙏

[@anotherpointofview222]

Great vid. Love the questioning. If you are not Asking, Seeking, Knocking, how can you ever know if what you believe is the Truth?

[@ssua4059]

By the sounds of it, he's not an atheist. He just doesn't believe in the God of the bible. So he believes in another god

[@DONZ-fy2eb]

Mean insight on the uso king kapisi’s outlook on religion and God. His questions are valid because a lot of people still ask these questions from past generations and the present generation. People have used the Bible and God to manipulate and control people to benefit themselves, good example of that is Constantine. Because of their actions and myself included as a Christian have distorted the true characteristics of God and what His plans are for us. I agree with the uso that culture and church don’t mix well. Blessings brothers these conversations are good n important to have, so we can understand each other!!!!!👍🏾🙏🏾

[@weswesnet]

Thanks man, these conversations are important indeed no matter whos opinion because even though we agree or disagree sometimes we can all learn from everyone....thanks for your comment uso

[@DONZ-fy2eb]

💯uso!!!!🙏🏾❤️

[@253KINGS24MEIMEIMJ]

Funny how those faithful religious believers are bashing on those who respectfully respond with their response that they don’t believe in a God. Like what does that make you bashing those that don’t believe in one but you do? Lol ! Just gotta respect and still show love no matter what they believe in. Cmon on vasti lmao !

[@hayzIsherwood]

Good listen bro were asking the right kind of questions here. Starts the discussion aye

[@viliamitupou3863]

The original bible in Hebrew and Aramaic will tell you a very different story to the one we all know as well as Ancient texts which pre date the time of biblical texts are something you'll find eye opening like 💥💥..... unconditional love is the way to ascension. Ofa atu

[@twinz8795]

Religion is also a form of business. It puts money into their pockets. Hence why I think some ministers react in a way that's not Christ like and further labelling king kapisi the devil.

[@nshorus5001]

business and mind control

[@faigameati]

@@nshorus5001wrong

[@faigameati]

He is what’s make us truly Samoan is our faith in Christ not in some white man samoa is the independent country and Christianity was playing big role on that

[@pitatua5345]

Prayers for you kapisi hope you will find all the answers to all your questions And happiness and inner peace

[@user-eu3zp3xk6b]

I think that culture throughout Polynesia including Maori are distorted remnants of what our ancestors had. I think that pre missionary times our cultures already had some of those truths, some of which I believe became corrupted over time. I believe our people were a people of God and do recognise the spirit and are more receptive to Gods truths than others. However I also believe religion has taken this path also. And the many truths that have been passed down through the ages have been distorted and corrupted and changed, creating a confusing and treacherous world for one seeking it. The truth is out there, in its fullness and if you are faithful in you quest to seek it, you shall find it.

[@user-eu3zp3xk6b]

@Ualeai Sekupe I disagree but that wasn’t my point. My point is there are truths that have been lost within culture and religion.

[@user-eu3zp3xk6b]

@Ualeai Sekupe what do you believe

[@user-eu3zp3xk6b]

@Ualeai Sekupe well I believe most of the pacific nations knew God before missionaries arrived. Do you agree with that

[@user-eu3zp3xk6b]

@Ualeai Sekupe can you though, I’m sure a book bought you to the knowledge of Aristotle’s concept be it digital or paper back. Either way I’m talking pre missionaries before the Bible was bought to our people. Further more if one thinks that the similarities in our beliefs pre missionaries times is mere coincidence, and also born out of logical thinking, is naive. Our beliefs are so intricately connected that I don’t believe it came about just by happenstance.

[@user-eu3zp3xk6b]

@Ualeai Sekupe agree with parts, and also feel what you say about Christianity supports what I said and believe. Gotta go work will pick up later if keen

[@nshorus5001]

There is no need for religion, anyone can believe in God and Jesus in their own way.. I'm from the UK and was volunteering in Samoa for 5 months and I was trying to tell people the damage that the missionaries did to Samoa. Religion is mind control. I saw poor people giving their money to their churches with the priest living in his nice modern house.

[@alelokaoseumu]

That's a bit silly, ain't it? The concept of Jesus originates from the Bible, a Christian textbook. You can't really remove the religion from the narrative of Jesus and the resurrection. Your idea is a cheap way out and quasi-justifies the 'mind control' that is religion. Either you consider yourself a Christian or one of its subsect or you don't. The bit about believing in Jesus but not the religion is silly. How can you do that when the concept of Jesus COMES from religion?

[@ChrisEAdlay]

​@@alelokaoseumuyou can worship Jesus and live according to his precepts without being a slave to the pressures of Samoan village life

[@faigameati]

So your a white man comes to force my people to leave their believes bro you don’t understand how we leave we stand up those kinds of priest and we follow Jesus not a priest no white man is leading our country now you come and try to do that to my people leave your uk atheists nonsense to yourself mate

[@MrBlack_nz]

That’s not religion that’s just greed which comes in different forms. Trust me, my Pasifika brothers don’t really want to return to the pagan days. They hunted, killed and ate each other. The Tongans ruled Samoa before any white man 🤦🏾

[@Gerry-xw8jj]

​@faigameati ironic to say this when you believe in a white man's religion and a white Jesus 😂😂

[@raztahking]

Malo sole 💯 Man can def. live virtuous without praising the man who never existed.

[@alelokaoseumu]

Christianity is less than 200 years old in Samoa. That's a mere 4-5 generations. Our great great grandfather weren't even Christians. It is not an integral part of Samoan culture or Samoan life. It is ok to be atheist, agnostic, or secular. You don't have to belong to a religion, Christian or not, to be Samoan. When someone accuses you of being fiapoko or caving in to white man's atheism belief, let's ask them... who introduced Christianity to Samoa? Was it not the white man? Fiapoko are those who cave in to this new religion and expecting everyone else to convert as well. If you found peace in Christianity, great. But it is unacceptable that villages in Samoa either shames or banishes you for not attending church.

[@BarHawa]

100% Uso. Malosi le koko,those religions mean nothing,our blood means everything

[@faigameati]

Uso Christianity was started by Jews do your research and I’m happy Samoa is following Jesus not a white man

[@faigameati]

@@BarHawayour blood means nothing when you face God on judgement day

[@BarHawa]

@@faigameati Jesus wasn't even the biblical Messiah,watch yourself because you're already an idol worshipper yourself

[@WP-ch3sy]

@@faigameati you live your life in fear of judgement day. that fear is designed to control you

[@SBW_1]

Kaps spitting truths, Christianity only arrived in the 1800’s.

[@originalclaymoreboy728]

Right on usos💯💯 they forced our old ways out in the cooks banned us from dancing drinking kava singing and tattooing..any cookislander caught with new tattoos were singled out and had it scraped off with sharp sea shells yet they preach a loving religion onto our people.

[@MrBlack_nz]

Pacific Island tribes hunted, killed, and ate each other uso it’s not just cool tattoos and fancy dance moves unfortunately

[@areanazavala653]

I searched up “why are Samoans very religious” and this is one of the videos that came up. Las Vegas NV has a very large population of Mormon Samoans in which at first I found crazy because on the opposite, Ive only known of Mormons to be white. Just stating my observations here. In which in the joining the military then I met more people Samoans who were also Mormon and I was like dangg how though? Why Mormonism? Then I watched another video last night and found out of the missionaries who who with intentions of course, wanted Samoans to conform to Mormonism. And yes that is one specific way to influence a large population, by targeting their leaders first! BECAUSE they have influence on their people. This is very interesting. And then by many not wanting to conform of course ways were developed to FORCE many to conform.

[@areanazavala653]

I also wanted to say that I definitely agree with coming from a place of love, no hate. I find that when I personally or my siblings would question the Catholic religion, we were yelled at, or said not to question catholicism, or were met with questions like, “well don’t you see what jesus has given us?” It wasn’t until I reached my freshman year of college that I became aware of the term “colonization”. I was so sheltered from the world and the history of it. It’s crazy, I really am enjoying my womens and gender study class as I am currently writing a discussion post in regards to how religion has suppressed women and it’s used as a weapon against populations presently & past tense. Very great discussions going on, and happy I stumbled upon your video!

[@dojojinjutsu6179]

That's why it's good to learn all religion.. you can feel what is right..

[@ethanolarano4341]

I'm Maori and I believe you uso talanoa

[@tabbs3]

Mann king kapisi bless you bro, For speaking up for our people we need more touching on this Topic. Very Interested to get our people out of this mental slavery. Nothing but love and Peace king and many blessings All away from California. Lets bring this "Mau" movement back for our island brothers and sisters, and what our ancestors left for us. they need to hear this and wake up. Blessings king! love to hear u speak about this more.

[@henryvaiotu230]

🤣Kapisi sums it up well, nothing wrong with being religous, but us islanders seem to over embrace it, that we lose focus on other things in life, ....especially here in the Islands..

[@StandardProcedures79]

Big up the King himself. Spitting nothin but straight FACTS!!! 💯 we love you Kaps!!! 👑

[@Chris-lg8rm]

With you uso 💯 a lot of comments mad dogn king kaps, the truth is we were deceived into there religion, I’ve looked into the book, read it and understood that the book was written for a certain group of people, Hebrew Israelites, not the fake jews but the black Israelites. It’s a history of one people Yahwehs chosen people the Hebrew Israelites.

[@KinapauaKutai]

I thought I was an atheist cause I don’t believe in religion but I found out I can’t b because I believe in a creator

[@nshorus5001]

you don't need a religion to believe in God

[@xelosandoval]

They did the same exact thing to my Native American ancestors we praised our ancestors before the oppressors came and implemented their own ways

[@MrBlack_nz]

Native American tribes were killing each other my blind brother

[@Runitup84]

I’m Tongan atheist

[@StandardProcedures79]

Me too toko 💯 and proud to be one.

[@Runitup84]

@@StandardProcedures79 gotta shake the brainwashing 🤣😂

[@artymcfly8694]

@@Runitup84 hi mate. Keen to hear why you're an Athiest?

[@ssua4059]

@@artymcfly8694 they're just following the crowd

[@fvdj2204]

Proud of you 👏 & me

[@gordongraff9727]

Very wrong on all levels , the God of the bible is not the Palagi it’s dated back to Israel , the issue with constantine is incorrect the council of nicea was put together in 325 coz Ari’s the heretic was saying Jesus was a mini god , but the first council was in Jerusalem mentioned in book of acts where Paul , Peter and James sat with elders Now you look at the manuscripts it dates back to first century I do agree culture and religion shall never mix Christ said spread the gospel to bring people to him not to religion , Christ condemned reliquary groups like Pharisees ,Sadducees There only 1 God Do more research mate

[@L3a98]

But how did Christianity come to Samoa ? 👀 I don’t remember hearing Brown Israelites coming to Samoa spreading the word of God. It was the Palagis that came with this foreign religion.

[@gordongraff9727]

@@L3a98 The missionaries came on the same boat with these soldiers but they had different agendas you can look at all the history all you need to do is research the maoris ,Hawaiians Missionaries were never involved in negotiations with tribes over land etc Missionaries were there to spread the gospel build safe havens and give help to some of the elderly people In the book of acts one of the first conversions was when Phillip helped the Ethiopian eunuch who was reading the scrolls of Isaiah Phillip was a Jew and Ethiopians African The gospel is preached in Jerusalem then mesapotimia ,Antioch all these regions have no Palagis So when the gospel reached the islands there were 2 groups on the same boat one was to conquer the other was to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ which was prophesied and commanded that the gospel shall be spread to all 4 corners of the world

[@Tups3000]

Good insights. Great pod. Miss you Eyes ❤

[@frannyloco9314]

Every generation from our ancestors that converted to Christianity has chosen for themselves to follow Christ. I myself was forced to go to church as a young person but grew to hate it coz it was all I knew. But as I got older being in the streets and in prison living with many people of different backgrounds it drew me back to the god of Israel our father who sent his only son. After seeking peace and joy in the world and other gods I knew this Christ is the real thing through my experiences in life. Brother kapisi for you to say our ancestors just rolled over and converted is an absolute insult to their courage and integrity. Our ancestors were warriors meaning they were brave and would die for what they believed in. On top of that courage came intelligence as you would know we were the original sea mariners of the most treacherous seas navigating through the pacific using the stars showing how highly capable and competent they really were. A lot of you brothers who claim to have left Christianity never really knew what Christianity is. You were hurt by people or didn’t like what churches were doing which shows your faith was in man and not in god. If you read the bible front to back and out your faith in those words you would’ve had a relationship with god that no man could seperate yet Yous went to church coz you were forced like the rest of us but difference is I see now why our parents forced us is because they love us and are trying to save us from suffering. Yeah they could’ve communicated it better but hey they were only doing what they thought was best according to their upbringing and life experience. I’m so grateful to my grandma for the discipline and hard lessons I was taught as a child coz like the bible says we can stray away as we get older but we will always come back and that I have. I thank god for allowing me not to get lost in my rebellion. He took me back like the prodigal son and instead of punishment that I deserved he gave me a new life ❤️ one full of fulfilment though I have not much money. A heart full of love though many have left me. A heart of forgiveness to forgive those who hurt me ❤️ all that glory goes to god and I just encourage anyone reading this to please read the bible for yourself don’t listen to me or pastors for all men fall short. God sent his son to be the example the way tue truth and life ❤️ amen

[@seekey1st]

Till we’re dead and gone Jesus will still be relevant. Weather they like it or not. Misrepresentation of Jesus doesn’t make Him less real. Know Jesus He’s around. Love you usos.

[@WP-ch3sy]

Jesus isn't even his real name

[@westernsellers9148]

Musicians are intelligent and open minded.

[@carsoncity90745]

Saying the gospel coming to the mother land is a bad thing is crazy !

[@lucksiaaloisio4050]

Kalofa e ia oe ma lou agaga. Innocent bt also a very lost soul! Showing how lost his teachers in his life were for him to say he's a Samoan but he doesn't believe in God? Like I'm saying though, he's so innocent in asking his question and wanting a straight honest answer, but its what he see's that speak louder! I pray our true saviour JESUS CHRIST Will answer you personally to yourself! God Bless you brother!✌️💯🇼🇸🕊️✝️

[@ernestheremia9595]

you do realize u lose ur identity,culture,traditions,your lineage and ties to the land yall people look after, we indeginous are protectors of the lands, we are what brings the rich to this plain world, as myself being maori, when a person feels the mana from a haka u find that not only does ur heart feel it but ur soul/wairua feels it, thats why to me its important to uphold these traditions n not let time,religion,and barriers lose these precious things which are what keeps us in tune with not being sheep

[@lucksiaaloisio4050]

@@ernestheremia9595 ???

[@lucksiaaloisio4050]

@@ernestheremia9595 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God's one and only Son!

[@barbzalotai5839]

Well done to you bro! If that's what makes you who you are and makes you feel good about yourself, props to you! It's through GOD our father in Heaven that Samoans are founded ​ON, BY and IN! As for King Kapisi, I pray for the brother that he finds his true ROOTS TOO! Like you! Praise God our Father in Heaven in Jesus name.. AMENE!@@ernestheremia9595

[@famousak1336]

Wow, my fellow Samoans. Do not confuse Christianity, with white washed Christianity as an excuse not to follow Iesu!

[@ryoung8891]

When did y’all ancestors first settle on the islands? Where did they come from and why did they leave??

[@Idkidk55957]

Samoans were sick of war and the answer to the problem came in the form of Christianity. Ultimately it's a choice. I'd rather live my life believing to find out when I die there was nothing than the opposite.

[@islandboykmusic8895]

So basically you only believe just in case hell is real yeah? lol

[@alelokaoseumu]

How is it a choice when villages compel people to attend church? If you don't go to church, at best you are shamed. At worst, you and your family are banished from the village. Not exactly a choice when it's coerced.

[@vailima49aston99]

Reverse Resistance!! 🇼🇸💙

[@hayzIsherwood]

Which island was jesus from? None of the pacific islands lol

[@lazybedford3018]

💯🖨

[@MrBlack_nz]

So?

[@ITSAGIRRAFE1]

Just this guy using the term “fob” in the way he did, shows how clueless he really is.

[@phoenixsun6050]

King Kaps with the Fax

[@faigameati]

Nope

[@DPouesi2]

I'm all for freedom of speech. But freedom of speech isn't a license for us to rewrite or distort history and demonize early missionaries or our Samoan ancestors who, after thoughtful deliberation, accepted Christianity. You spoke of research and that's a good thing. So, if I may, what accounts have you read and analyzed? What Samoan elders have you personally interviewed for insights? Forgive me for saying this but it appears to me you're simply regurgitating what other haters of Jesus and Christianity had said. I know it's fashionable these days to say of oneself, "I'm an atheist." I suspect many young people announce it to the world because it makes them appear intelligent. Christianity isn't a faith for "dull" people who can't think for themselves as you suggested. Christianity requires the complete employment of one's faculty. That's why Jesus taught His followers to "love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy MIND" (emphasis added). I stopped watching your presentation when you spoke of someone wiping feces (I assume on your face?) for not going to church! That is not Christianity, my friend. And that is certainly not Jesus. I'm sorry to hear it happened. But you can't judge a faith by the abuse of its followers. Christianity is a beautiful relationship with God. And FYI, it isn't White Man's religion. I'm sure you already know that. For whatever i's worth, God bless you and may His light illuminate your mind.

[@leila9372]

Lol. Sounds like you need to have a read.

[@DPouesi2]

@@leila9372 Sure, what specifically do you want me to read? Your sources and what they said. I'm always willing to edit my views with sound evidence.

[@andrewreed4216]

The nemenhah records (book, second complete edition) share some connections. The ojibwe nation does, too. All being released by the native Americans. Worth a look. The original gods were based on something.. could it be that they were changed over time?

[@psmith1241]

Did he reference any books on the topic or anyone have suggestions?

[@GP-et2vf]

Malo le fa'asoa. All knees will bow in the end though.

[@ssua4059]

Sa'o lelei uso. Talk what ever they want, at the end they gonna see Jesus Christ and they gonna say "oops we were wrong " the man is the true God

[@ogpritchard7296]

@@ssua4059 your jesus is lazy af, what has he done? Why hasn't he helped with child trafficking or child molestation, why hasn't he given you the so call believer's the answers on how to cure cancer, aids, corona, heart disease so on and so on????

[@paiaa1011]

@@ogpritchard7296 what has Jesus done?? He’s given you and everyone life. He’s also given you a choice. Just like the murderers, robbers, liars, burglars etc...He’s a God of love and justice. A lot of what’s happened in this world, sickness, earthquakes, wars etc, are a result of sin. You see people are quick to blame God for the suffering, yet we’re the ones that are messing up the world. Can I ask, what do you believe? I’ve seen a couple of your comments (pretty negative) so I’m keen to hear your thoughts? And how you’re solving the worlds problems since Jesus is ‘lazy’??

[@L3a98]

Now to a Palagi God Brough over my oppressive colonist Palagis

[@riahs.7578]

The problem is rooted with the people, not the Bible itself. When Samoans mixed culture with God, we messed up. Buy many Christians of all colors deal with this. Your Pastor using the church $ so him & his wife can eat @ the buffet every Sunday IS wrong & God doesn’t overlook it. Read your Bible. & There’s no solid justification in the “white mans religion/God” argument..it doesn’t make you “woke” or “conscious”. It makes you blind.

[@riahs.7578]

@Ualeai Sekupe some African Americans use the same excuse of “white mans religion” if you would read the Bible and it’s history you would know thats false

[@ryoung8891]

There are many that believe that the black races are more closely related than they realize and at one point the American blacks and the island blacks and many others once occupied a great Kingdom founded by 12 brothers which produced 12 great nations each tribe having their own role...Kings, Priest, Musicians, Warriors etc... And it was a very powerful Kingdom but It was destroyed but outside jealous nations and domestic wars... Which resulted in Many being taken into captivity/slavery while many fled to the islands and started a new society..But the same enemies were the same ones that colonized the world with the help of others and went throughout the world searching for all the descendants of the 12 Brothers to change their history, language and names and dilute their bloodline by bringing in other races.. and making sure no more great Kingdoms were being established...Did you ever hear of that??

[@nahzewilliams5912]

agree and when one of Jesus Christs greatest commandments not only says says love your neighbour/stranger(hes meaning the same love you show to the most loved person in your life and family etc etc ) Jesus is also saying show that exact same Love to your enemy...as hard as that can be...doesnt take Einstein to work out how much effect that would have on the planet if we all at least tried to live that way in regards to Love .....blatantly clear that thats the solution and answer=the truth......after all God is Love

[@yungsouljah9552]

Speaking facts💯 good stuff King Kapisi✊🏾

[@wowwow6524]

faa pa boom boom brought me here - it's about finding your inner light and shining your inner light 🎆

[@darensiaosi]

None of this matter everyone have their own believes, just teach our kids the right way to walk in life and one day when they grow up then they make their own decisions of what they believe in.... cause at the end you gonna stand by your self on judgement day.

[@revdrmaafupalu]

What if our ancestors were right, and you're mistaken? Why should we listen to you?

[@mathewlalaga4564]

yeah u forgot the if, so he does have a point.

[@JERAESKWAD]

Look around you. The most religious are the most in poverty.

[@JMz685]

@@JERAESKWAD Interesting statement. Though I'd like to see the stats and the evidence that Religion causes poverty. But even if it were true, it doesn't make Christianity false.

[@pacebeazy7584]

Where is a link for the full ep

[@weswesnet]

Link is in the description

[@pacebeazy7584]

@@weswesnet safe I got it on Spotify

[@samoanking4004]

@the weswest network peace and love family talofa lava let's build family wya

[@mous3pad_music]

That was insightful AS

[@Runitup84]

This guy knows what he’s talking about

[@MrBlack_nz]

Tongans ruled Samoa before any white man set foot in Samoa. Does this make us Tongans 🤦🏾

[@billiondollarsworthofgame]

Samoa please keep the traditions alive and american or Western way is wrong. But all people should have free agency.

[@vinow6]

King Kaps are real one for this

[@sonnybbll28]

Where is the whole interview?

[@weswesnet]

Episode 87 of the BACK OF THE 135 podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, iHeart Radio and Stitcher link is in the description

[@uso_tmax5740]

What if the missionaries did teach our people the real way of Christianity but those ways are lost…now people turning it into some kind of culture/religion thing?🤷🏾‍♂️

[@letitburnforever2122]

What if....now wait for it....was all made up and they were all full of shit. Where does that leave you?

[@fuamatucrew8718]

Always love u Kaps but honestly uso Jesus is real and you like everyone else needs him . ..I pray you find him one day uce Alofa Aku

[@JMz685]

Interesting talk. Though I did my research I came to a different conclusion that Christianity is true. I'm not a Christian because I'm Samoan, I'm Christian because I looked at the evidence and came to the conclusion that it is true. Samoan and Christian isn't necessarily the same. But that does not mean that Christianity is false. Jesus was born in Judea not Samoa but that doesn't have an effect on whether Christianity is true. Also I heard some things about Rome and Constantine being the foundation of Christianity but there really is no evidence for that and actually I think we can establish according the early historians like Josephus and Tacitus that Christianity was established early on in 1st Century Judea well before Constantine. God bless. Also the brother brought up something about people Judging other peoples God and telling them they're wrong. There is nothing wrong with that, that is how we learn and distinguish what is true because you essentially are doing the same thing. We all make judgements. When you said something about Christians telling other people they're wrong you are making a judgement and their isn't anything wrong with that. Ironically you calling someone "Judge-gy as f*ck" is in itself judgmental. Lets move past these arguments because I believe that they get away and distract from the actual substance. In my experience people use these arguments as gotcha arguments. The real substance is whether Christianity is true and I believe that if you look at the historical and archaeological evidence for Christianity and you put your bad experiences and abuses to the side that Christianity is actual more plausible than what most people give it credit for.

[@outkastrebel9637]

I thought Jesus was born in Bethlehem 🤔 Where did you get Judea from?

[@CanaanEne]

Interesting discussion. Kaps, you have a lot of valid points that, for the most part, christians have shied away from discussing - particularly people like us (samoans) where religion is so ingrained in our culture. I do concede that a lot of the claims you make against christianity are definitely practices that shouldn't be, like the reading out of the taulaga etc - there's not even a biblical precedent for that. However, I think there's a few fallacies made, e.g a genetic fallacy is made at 2.25 and a few ad hominems throughout. There are a plethora of theological and philosophical arguments that still render christianity to be true that i can think of. I know this is only a 10 minute clip, so would love to hear a thorough discussion on this from you

[@samuellemoyne4791]

My man kapisi woke asf,manipulation of civilisations crossing each others paths n the way the front is asserted,either physically or mentally

[@lahocuz3807]

Sole 💯 uso 💙

[@faigameati]

Wrong

[@twinz8795]

We need to have open dialogues.

[@thoughtplantationpodcast175]

Awesome talanoa boyz!!!

[@weswesnet]

Cheers Toko...listening to your awesome content as this reply goes up ✊🏽💯💯

[@xroadwalker]

Reminds me of the samisis on that old comedy show skitz when the minister used to show up 😂

[@sa9822]

I agree with you brother

[@kunuiakea7047]

TULOU, TAGALOA!!!!!!!!!

[@lesblase3667]

These knuckleheads are going to compare Tagaloa (who’s dead by the way) to the Living God of the Bible. Yeshua HaMashiach Jesus Christ. That says a lot. Tagaloa couldn’t create a grain of sand out of nothing let alone be God of the universe. Tagaloa couldn’t even save himself. God of the Bible died & Rose again. Tagaloa is not even worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as the Living God. Kapisi. I agree with you. There are many hypocrites amongst the Church but that in no way discredits Christianity one bit. If you had read a Bible, any Bible, you could see with your own eyes who follows Christ with their mouth & who serves Him with all their being. Seeing such thing only validates the Bible like I’ve seen someone mention here. It doesn’t take away from the faith, it only strengthens it. I heard you allude to the idea that Christians believe blindly? We don’t believe for the sake of it. There’s Living Proof of Him all around me & all around you. Unless your locked in a box in the middle of nowhere I’m assuming you see evidence of His creation all around you. Nothing can create Something out of Nothing. That’s scientifically impossible. Not only that it’s logically stupid to believe such thing. That’s atheism. Stupid lol A bunch of nothing. These people call Babies in the womb a Fetus. A fetus? Not knowing Fetus means baby. Latin. 🤦‍♂️ But our God says he know us intimately & that it’s He that forms us in the womb of our mothers. Atheism don’t care for life. They call babies “parasites” Imagine a worldview where babies, Gods creation are known as parasites. A child is the Greatest Blessing a mother & father could ever receive & these athiests call them parasites? Straight from satan himself Critique your own worldview the same way you do with the Bible & Christianity. Don’t be like the rest who are disingenuous in their quest for “Truth” only to cherry pick what is comfortable to their itching ears. Which means you would actually have to read the Bible for yourself instead of hearing from what someone else told you about it. The Bible is the easiest Book on Earth to find. It’s everywhere. It’s the number 1 selling book of All Time! 2nd place doesn’t even come close. If you haven’t read the World Number 1 Best seller Of All Time then I suggest you have a read. See what’s inside. Find peace with the True, Living God that Loves You Kapisi. Before it’s too late. You don’t want to die opposing Him. I wish that on no one. Seek Him while you’re still here. If you haven’t read the Bible & in context then I find it hard for one to discredit it without ever reading it. It is disingenuous to me. For instance, I never read the Quran before but because of my muslim friends that I love, I use to go around saying that Islam is a religion of peace. That we all worship the same God etc I believed that with all my heart till my curiosity lead me to buy a Quran out of my own pocket then to only realise (years later) that what I was saying about Islam was not true. In fact it was far from True. Islam is not a religion of peace. Shocked me to my core that what I believed so much to be true was the opposite of what I thought to be true. Sometimes truth is hard to stomach but it doesn’t change the Truth. Islam is just an example. The beautiful Muslim people we know don’t represent Islam. Not in the same sense a Christian would represent the Bible cover to cover unashamed. The Muslim will believe bits & pieces. Because if they believed in all of Islam then they would have to defend it. But they can’t. Like the athiest. Forget those false gods. Call on Christ & pick up that Bible. Only Jesus Christ can save you from the wrath that’s about to come. Call Him today

[@checkmate1430]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@soulsali8755]

Lmao God died and rose again . Think about that for a second . Does the almighty ever die ? Mate you haven’t read the Quran I don’t think. The bible has stories of incest and killing innocent babies women and donkeys. Never hear about that in the church , unashamed huh ? . Don’t talk about Islam when you don’t even know ya bible my bro . Peace and blessings upon you none the less .

[@checkmate1430]

@@soulsali8755 calm down mbro😂😂😂

[@ogpritchard7296]

🤦🏾‍♂️ It's OK to have a open mind fellas lol

[@L3a98]

Have you actually read the Quran? Uhmm did you read the Hadith as well. Just curious 👀

[@albertsmith9878]

People just want to fit in! Being different gets you nowhere!

[@kingtulafale]

We’ll all just find out in the end

[@juniortupuse9671]

Sole ; o le mea lega e alai oga le so'oga faaigoa ai e tua'a a latou fanau. O lena ua e so'o lava i lou igoa ( tin of cabbage ) malo le lava le valea.

[@TheKingsArmor]

Jesus (Yahuah) was a brown man, palestinian jew.. Yes he was never white that was the white mans poise to deceive the world.. But its not your flesh its your soul and where its going that matters most..

[@mathewlalaga4564]

Thats why i left Christianity, nothing but money hungry churches, by the way Jesus didn't even accept worship in the Bible, if he did then give me a chapter and verse. U keep doing what your doing brother, no Samoan is gonna tell me im no Samoan, cause im full blooded Samoan. Culture does mix with religion and that has been happening for decades

[@JMz685]

What do you mean that he didn't accept worship? What according to you would be enough reason to believe He accepted worship? I'm not sure what you mean. To me, if Jesus was not supposed to receive worship then He would've rebuked or told them not to worship Him when they did worship Him. I'll share a few instances where they worshipped Jesus and he did not rebuke them. '"And He led them out as far as Bethany, and He lifted up His hands and blessed them. Now it came to pass, while He blessed them, that He was parted from them and carried up into heaven. And they worshiped Him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy"' Luke 24:50-52 '"And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, “Rejoice!” So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him."' Matthew 28:9 '" Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, “Truly You are the Son of God.”' Matthew 14:33 In all these examples Jesus never refused worship, it seems that it is a common occurrence in His life. One time Jesus didn't rebuke Thomas for worshipping Him and calling Him God. '"And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”' John 20:26-29 Aside from that Issue. I understand your frustrations with the Church as I have seen it first hand. But the abuses doesn't necessarily mean that Christianity is false. And also you're still Samoan, it just happens to be that you're not a Christian. Bless you uce, thanks for sharing.

[@mathewlalaga4564]

@@JMz685 My point is Did Jesus ever say in the Bible worship me alone, I am God, just because his followers, disciples worshipped him he doesn't mean we worship him. In the New testament Jesus Doesn't even know the hour, he is also sitting on the right handside of God Almighty so thats two Gods, John 5:30 I by myself can do nothing as i hear i judge, John 5:37 U can not hear Gods voice or see his form, John 20:17 I am ascending to my father your father my God and your God, does Jesus have a God Josiah, well it looks obviously that he always prey to another God. Im always hearing people saying Jesus said i and God are one, well he also said i and the disciples are one. Jesus never mentioned tritarian God. How can your God prey to another God. When did Jesus in the Bible ever set slaves free, he never did, he never came down for this world, he came down for the lost sheep of Israel. In the old testament God Almighty said in Malachi 3:6 I do not change. In 1 Timothy 6:16 who alone is immortal and who lives in approachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. So that verse is not talking about Jesus because people have seen Jesus, but no one in the flesh has ever seen God. That Bible is corrupted.

[@JMz685]

@@mathewlalaga4564 You quoted a lot from the book of John. The book of John starts out with this: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:1‭, ‬14) So you cannot isolate those few verses and make assumptions. You must look at the entirety of the context from which you quote. If you quote John then I can also quote the same book which disagrees with your conclusion completely. Also I wonder if you know and understand the concept of thr Trinity because you've made multiple strawmans of what Christians believe. I'm not too shocked as I've heard many arguments formed the same way mainly from people like Zakir Naik, Ahmed Deedat. While I respect the perspective I don't think these arguments are anything more than just polemics. And I wonder, are you a Muslim? I'll start with John chapter 5. I'm glad you quoted John 5 because I believe it shows how Jesus claimed to be divine. Lets look at these sorrounding verses - John 5:19-23 - "Then Jesus answered and said to them, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.'" Now this is interesting. Jesus doesn't say He is just a man. Jesus is claiming that He does whatever God does. Who is the final Judge? It is God right? But according to Jesus, it is Himself. Notice Jesus also says that we should "honor the Son JUST AS we honor the Father." That's a big statement, if Jesus is just a man then why would He say such a thing. How do you honor God? You worship Him and Jesus says we should honour Him just the same. But I'll continue and finish the verses. John 5:24-29 - "'Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth- those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." Again this isn't something a mere man or prophet would say. If you are a Muslim then according to the Qur'an and Hadith, who raises the dead on the last day? That's right, Allah. Likewise according to the Old Testament who is the final judge and who will raise the dead on the last day? Thats right, it is God, Yahweh, the LORD of Hosts. And Jesus in this passage is claiming to be the one who will judge the living and the dead. And then we finally get to verse 30 which in context is very different to the way you used it. Jesus is claiming all these same attributes as God. He is also claiming a unity with the Father which again is exactly the doctrine of the Trinity. John 20:17 again it is not inconsistent with Christian theology and Christians believe the Trinity. John 17 which seem more to back up Christianity and again in the very same chapter you quote Jesus is called "my Lord and my God" by thomas and Jesus essentially says, "now you finally believe in me because you have seen me." Now if Jesus was not God then He could've simply said "Hey I'm not God!" but instead he affirms what Thomas says. Jesus praying to the Father again it doesn't show that He isn't God. The doctrine of the trinity states that God is 3 in persons but 1 in being. Jesus praying to the Father actually shows the divine unity within the Trinity but also Jesus on the earth lived as a man and so was dependent on the Father. Jesus did set the slaves free. Paul who also wrote 1 Timothy which you quoted! He says that we have been set free from the slavery and bondage of sin and brought into the kingdom of the Son of his love! Of course God has never changed! His character has always been the same. Jesus came first for the Jew yes, he is the Jewish messiag but we must realize that from the beginning of Israel God says to Abraham that all nations will be blesses through His seed, through Issac. Absolutely I agree, but then before He ascends on high he himself sends the disciples into all the world to preach the Gospel (Mark 16:15-20, Matt, 28:19,20, Acts 1:8). Noone has seen God's full essence but people have seen God in limited from in the old testament! Adam and Eve saw God walking in the Garden, Abraham talked, walked and pleaded with God for sodom and Gamorrah (Genesis 17), Jacob wrestled with God and said "I have seen God face to face and have lived" (Genesis 32:30). Moses saw God in the burning bush, Moses and the elders of Israel saw the God of Israel! (Exodus 24:9-11). Isaiah the Prophet saw the Lord high and lifted up! What can make sense of this except that God revealed himself in a way that we could see and understand and that is what Scripture says. 😄 "No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known." - John 1:18 God bless you brother. And I'll share one more verse, the very words of Jesus Christ. "But He kept silent and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked Him, saying to Him, 'Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?' Jesus said, 'I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.'" Mark 14:61‭-‬62

[@mathewlalaga4564]

@@JMz685 oh ok, so what are u saying, Jesus is God now, so Jesus got Mary pregnant the son got the mum pregnant Lol. A God can not die, its 1:Timothy 6:16, that verse definitely doesn't talk about Jesus. Jesus in your Bible is sitting on the right right handside of God Almighty, so what do u worship now, 2 Gods. God Almighty said in Malachi I do not change my nature, he also said in the old testament i am not a man. If Jesus was the saviour then why did he not free slaves, Your Jesus God prey to God Almighty, a God should never have to submit to anyone, well Jesus submitted. In the Gospel of Matthew 7:22&23 Jesus sec coming said whoever prophesies in my name i will tell them this, I do not know u get away from me u evildoers. Remember Jesus only came for the lost sheep of Israel. When he was on the Cross and said God why have u forsaken me, God didn't answer his preys, so what chance do u have.

[@mathewlalaga4564]

@@JMz685 Did God Almighty ever say in the Bible worship Jesus Christ, nope nope nope......

[@jameslalesi8999]

Lol sad uso the truth will set you free wake up Jesus loves you.

[@ssua4059]

@Ualeai Sekupe up to you. You will kneel and bow down to Jesus Christ when He returns uso

[@ssua4059]

@Ualeai Sekupe they're not the same. Tagaloa is a god but Jesus is a creator. Kagaloa is not coming back anyway

[@ssua4059]

@Ualeai Sekupe there is a big difference. Only Jesus claimed that He is the way truth and life and no one goes to the Father except thru Him.

[@ssua4059]

@Ualeai Sekupe you are right atheist rich people but guess what, they're not going to heaven. Whether you believe in God or not, you will face the wrath of God on the judgment day

[@user96790]

YESSAH CHIEF KAPP. None but fax, Aloha nui 🐐

[@limahana7420]

Aloha tātou e nā hoa hānau! E ola e nā Atua! Aloha au iā ʻoutou

[@Ehxpzzzzzz]

And what happened ? King Kapisi keeps talking smack on Jesus.. and his music career went down the toilet... dont come for my Lord and Saviour. He will send you to the pits of hell if you don't repent. God bless you all.

[@beniblakelock6933]

Time for a debate live. . . I don’t mind being the defence for Christianity & Samoa vs King Kapisi and his views on the Christian faith in Samoa. Kapisi, I understand where you’re coming from, but you are very wrong. Sau ta talanoa Topic of debate “can you be a Samoan and not believe in Jesus?” Kapisi I will through you in the lapisi ! That’s a fact, with all respect. Regards Tipeni Blakelock Lessgooo Let’s do it

[@donnybrascocoliogne819]

RELIGION and POLITICS....This lifes greatest HOAX 👊

[@thecounto2100]

Religion is probably the laymans term of what Christianity is really about but as the uso says who is the sheep? Didnt mention the 2 civil wars Samoa had in 1899 and 1898 which is a product of many people turning to Christianity. Atheism is also subjected to 120 million lives taken in the 20th Century. Pol Pot, Ukrsanian Famine, Stalin, Mao and Albania. Not to mention the Genocides in Africa attributed to Atheism.

[@samoanking4004]

Big facts uce..

[@avilik13]

The Samoan Civil Wars was not due to atheism as Samoans were always religious people and were practising ancient mysticism and worshipping Polynesian deities prior to the arrival of Christianity. Atheism is the lack of belief in any God so they were never atheists. Also, the others you mentioned are false equivalencies as they have little to nothing to do with atheism. You seem to be confusing atheism with totalitarianism and totalitarianism with communism. The latter two are social constructs while atheism is a spiritual, or lack thereof, one. No one has waged war or killed people over or have tried to convert people to atheism. The same can't be said for Christianity or other belief systems that have started war for the advancement of their religion and to spread their doctrine. Even if what you claim is true give us the stats and casualties caused by religious wars so we can compare.

[@faigameati]

Jesus was not ah white man wake up non believers he was born in Bethlehem in Israel so he is a Jew ✝️✝️✝️

[@reaper6254]

Interesting 🤔

[@anotherpointofview222]

0:45 Religion is a component of culture. It isn't culture in and of itself. It became culture when it git passed on from one generation to the next. At any time, an individual can remove any beliefs and practices associated with a religion from their way of life.

[@jefftron1504]

I think spirituality is inherent in the Polynesian genes ...Christianity has it's good points and has served some of our people well but for me its just an ideology and needs to be questioned which is also inherent in our genes .Pay homage if you want to the new fishing net so to speak but don't discredit the one our ancestors used before Christianity came either.

[@TheKuKiAiRaNi]

Looking back on history now..would u believe a missionary saying his way/systems is the right way again?Lol

[@levifeleti8735]

With all due respect, I feel like you haven't really studied the word. If you genuinely seek the Gospel with an open mind, you'll understand that religion and culture is the reason why people are of little faith because there's a hidden agenda and they've mixed it and abused their authorities. Me personally, I don't follow religion, I follow Jesus Christ. Our souls are at a constant battle between the spirt and flesh. I want to be spiritually led by the Holy spirt but with the flesh, I fall short of his glory everyday. But I'm grateful that Jesus descended to pay the price that no man could ever do and made a way for me to come before my father in heaven, whenever, regardless of my shortfalls. It is by his grace that I am saved and I will confess the Lord Jesus and believe that God raised him from the dead and I shall be saved. I'd love to have a discussion with you about Jesus Christ and not religion one day 🙏

[@mathewlalaga4564]

So what are u saying, to get to heaven u have to believe Jesus is God.

[@levifeleti8735]

@@mathewlalaga4564 I believe Jesus is God.

[@sonnybbll28]

You shouldn’t follow anyone but yourself. Jesus is the devil they are the same character. The morning star.

[@levifeleti8735]

@@sonnybbll28 how did you come to such a conclusion?

[@JMz685]

@@sonnybbll28 That is an impossible conclusion. Just because morning star is used to describe both lucifer and Jesus doesn't mean they are the same character. In fact if you read just a bit of scripture you'll realize that Jesus is often at odds with Satan.

[@lesblase3667]

9:01 No brother. If you told people an orange tastes like an apple, you’ll be sent to a mental institution lol

[@Zion.G3]

Some weak argument points. This "atheist" doesn't even know what he believes.

[@Manutapu]

is same with me too

[@vailima49aston99]

Reverse Resistance

[@davidsavelio6492]

Catholic is the palagi pagan church. But if you go by the actual doctrine you will be Maka ala.

[@alelokaoseumu]

Catholicism is the root of Christianity. Every other Christian church branched from the Catholic church (Roman or Orthodox).

[@noojman1970]

💯💯💯