Catholics Claim Mary Was Sinless & Ascended to Heaven?

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[@annb9029]

She was assumed like Elijah

[@Phoenixmagnus]

Can you do a video on the silver medallion found in the grave of the Christian.

[@fre7717]

Ruslan said he get the new Eve, but he probably doesn't understand the implications- Adam and The First woman were created sinless, and only after they sinned did this first woman take on the name Eve. If you take Mary as the new Eve, you also have to contemplate her immaculate conception. Jesus was sinless, and It would be heresy for God to incarnate within a sinful person. Just like the ark of the covenant made of incorruptible Arcadia wood, and overlaid with Gold, which is also associated with incorruptibility. Old Ark contained stone tablets, rod of Aaron, manna- new Ark contains Word incarnate, High Priest, and Bread of life.

[@Catholic1391]

And who am I that the mother of my Lord should come and visit me?” is a line from the Bible, Luke 1:43. The line is spoken by St. Elizabeth after Mary visits her home while pregnant with Jesus. The line expresses Elizabeth's feelings of humility and surprise at being part of these events.

[@CNormanHocker]

At 1:08, "We don't worship her in the way we worship God." He just said that they worship Mary. They use their traditions to redefine the truth of their dogma. Where, outside the Roman Church, is their evidence that Mary was assumed in to heaven? You read her sinlessness in to the Scripture. The mental gymnastics you just went through is remarkable.

[@DrewH-u9f]

Merry Christmas to all the Protestants ,Catholics and Orthodox Christians!!!!!!!

[@andrewhooves3988]

Most beautiful thing I read all day

[@kevinvassago]

Merry Christmas!!🎄🌟☃️

[@lionvrdies]

Merry Christmas family!

[@roshankurien203]

Merry Christmas eveyone

[@RDD3lap3n496]

Merry Christmas!! Bro..

[@Phoenixmagnus]

She didn't ascend she was assumed. ASCEND means she did it by her own power. ASSUMED means God took her up like Elijah. Hope that helps. LOVE your stuff Ruslan even though i don't agree with somethings. GOD bless you.

[@jamesamurdock93]

Amen!

[@vastalapasta9739]

Hey I follow you on tiktok

[@mikecabrera9748]

Hmm 🤔 Interesting. What’s your source for that statement?

[@KnightFel]

The assumption of Mary into heaven is just that, an assumption.

[@mikecabrera9748]

@@KnightFel and you know what they say about “assuming”

[@orangemanbad]

The miracle of Fatima is one thing that led me to Christianity. It’s the best documented miracle in history (100,000 witnesses with modern reporters in a communist atheist country) teaching Christ.

[@emily43210]

Similar for me, I was asking God to show me evidence/give me a reason to believe in Jesus. One day mt Mom was listening to a non religious podcast and they mentioned Fatima, and I looked into it and I converted that day in my heart.

[@Wyxoor]

if you want to be really shocked looked up the Our Lady of the Good Event predictions for our time.

[@ambivertical]

Jesus led me to Christianity

[@orangemanbad]

@ there are too many to count! Our Lady apparition in Egypt was witnessed by over two million people. And it ended the Christian persecution.

[@orangemanbad]

@ that’s awesome! Now you should embrace all of Christianity. As Martin Luther, every church father did and venerate Our Lady as well. The only human in history to share the blood of God.

[@ReformedSteven]

I appreciate how he broke all this down. The only thing I’m wondering about all of this, is, God says him self we are all sinners in need of a savior. I think if Gods intention was to keep Mary sinless, I feel like we would see that in scripture and Romans 3:23 maybe would’ve mentioned something in regards to Mary being sinless (not directly maybe but somehow giving us definite knowledge that she was sinless). After hearing his explanation, my logical brain thought “yes I can see that, but without having to read in to it or fill in the gaps we wouldn’t come to that conclusion based solely off scripture it self because scripture it self tells us we are all sinners” Jesus being sinless is because he was divine, because he is God in the flesh sin is not of his nature. It almost sounds like you have to argue Mary has some sort of divinity in order to count her sinlessness plausible. Not saying she’s divine but my logical, incompetent brain goes to that. Also this isn’t to hate on anything said or anything like that, just trying to get my brain to work through it that’s all.

[@user-tz1fd1hl8t]

@ReformedSteven He will NOT say all except for Mary. You have horrible thought process. Does ALL Include Jesus? Why not? He is Human.

[@lupeespinoza6993]

@@ReformedSteven Mary was also saved but differently than us for the purpose of Christ. She was prevented from falling into sin. That is how she's saved.

[@yorleny_dv1787]

@@user-tz1fd1hl8tremember that Jesus was human yes but also God. Literally God is the flesh. His divinity made his sinless.

[@Deploracle]

The only reason protestants are so hung up on this subject is due to hatred of Catholics. They'd claim the sky was green if a Catholic dared call it blue.

[@pgpython]

I believe that whilst she carried Jesus she was kept from sin. To me that is logical because God in his nature hates sin so it would seem a contradiction to carry God and sin. Does that mean I think she didn't sin outside of that. It's possible that God could have kept her from sinning but there is nothing to go on. I do however feel regardless that Mary if she did sin she sinned significantly less than most people which is part of the reason God chose her. It just wouldn't make sense to say that she is the most blessed among women. Enough to carry Jesus and be a prolific sinner

[@freddyfernandez9739]

Elizabeth was full of the Holy Spirit and shout out with the loud voice blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb. how is it that the mother of my Lord should come to me

[@broco6608]

Ok? Why is that significant?

[@erictyra6920]

When you research Fatima and our lady of Guadalupe there leaves no question who Mary is

[@jonathanmendiola3775]

Yeah but the problem was is that really Mary or the devil in disguise because I did research it on Mary apparition and I came to this conclusion in fact is not Mary. The problem most the account Mary was “teaching” contradicting the Bible and the word of God remember the devil can perform miracle too.

[@Tp-ik6vc]

I agree. He’s leaving that out. Cuz he’s trying to answer biblically. I think when Protestants do research it they probably look at the apparitions as conspiracies. Like the church made everything up. They’ll ignore the miracles and just say everyone was coerced or something. They could never understand why we say a rosary is so powerful because they would never pray one and find out.

[@TimmyBuddoo]

⁠@@Tp-ik6vcNo mate we just look at God’s word.😊

[@Tp-ik6vc]

@@TimmyBuddoo my mistake. I should’ve said if instead of when. So if an angel came down and spoke to you directly tonight. It’s should not be documented or it would be considered downright blasphemy because it’s not in the Bible. Anyway not here to argue. Merry Christmas.

[@luk1e._.pook1e]

fatima was a ufo and a demon dude

[@FaithTruthLogicReason]

The young Protestant boy Colton, from Heaven is for Real said He met some of the apolostles, Jesus, and Mary. He saw Mary kneeling before God. He said only Jesus and Mary had bodies. It doesn't matter how many miracles God gives us pointing all to the fullness of truth, people won't believe it. This fullness and how we have a deep close personal relationship with the Trinity. Everyone says they have one but they don't know what they are missing out on and how much better it gets as a catholic. I am so blessed to have left Protestantism for the holy Apostolic church.

[@MsDianachick]

In scripture is says not to believe anyone, even if if they have visions.. so why do we hold on so much to people’s visions and miracles? Can’t satan also cause visions to confuse us?

[@FaithTruthLogicReason]

@MsDianachick The Holy Scriptures don't say not to listen to prophets. It actually says to listen to prophets but to test them. It says not to listen to false prophets and visions they make up.

[@matthewlh6368]

Mary as a second Eve, wow that’s beautiful. Catholic orthodox or Protestant can’t deny that connection is absolutely amazing. Merry Christmas everyone our Lord is born.

[@crimsoncloud6352]

Mary as 2nd eve? Only eve was the only eve... this is why I have my misconceptions about Catholics.

[@MrOlu109]

You have a problem with not just Catholics but the rest of Christianity! Only Protestants don't see the link. Can Protestantism truly be correct, when it goes against the rest of Christendom and is only 500 years old?? I doubt it...

[@catholicrusader7]

@@crimsoncloud6352 its called types and antitype. Moses Joseph David Adam were all types of Christ. Eve Sarah etc were all types of Mary. Try again

[@sathlasdalaraynidridlendar6875]

@@crimsoncloud6352 more like parallel. Like Jesus is sometimes a parallel to Adam

[@davidlicea9192]

Yeah, in latin and spanish this makes more sense. Eve is "Eva", and we call Mary "Ave María"; Ave is Eva backwards because Mary is the one who brought us our saviour, in opoosition of Eve who brought us sin.

[@eddybuckhorn7411]

Holy Mary, Mother of God! Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. On this night, the Immaculata, the new Eve, the new Ark of the Covenant gave birth to our Lord and God!

[@petemacinnes]

Only God is Holy

[@eddybuckhorn7411]

@ that’s not a Christian belief, and the Scriptures say you are wrong, for God commanded “Speak to all the congregation of the people of Israel and say to them, You shall be holy, for I the LORD your God am holy”. Holiness is our goal. Mary, who birthed God, is Holy. All those in Heaven, are Holy. I am sorry that you have been deprived of this teaching that pre-dates the Incarnation. Whatever Pastor you have, he has failed you.

[@hoid8069]

@@petemacinnesOnly God is holy in Himself. But those who share in His divine life participate in His holiness. And no one has a more perfect share in that divine life than the Theotokos.

[@petemacinnes]

@hoid8069 where in scripture does it say that?

[@petemacinnes]

@@eddybuckhorn7411 she birthed Yeshua, but not God... Jesus was God from eternity past, she gave birth only to the son of man. She herself being a dinner in need of Messiah

[@helmfamilyranch3067]

I’m a former Protestant. Protestants have an issue of not fully underwriting scripture, and also assuming they know Catholicism more than Catholics. When I finally looked into Catholicism myself, it led me to becoming Catholic. I was a Protestant for my entire life, 37 years. Not one Catholic, not one, believes Mary is the second Jesus. Again, Protestants routinely mischaracterize Catholicism because they can’t argue the merits well. God did not split the church 1500 years after he walked.

[@willionaire30]

I would add that this misunderstanding is between all denominations and sects of Christianity. I feel I’ve personally transcended the boundaries of religion, yet I still have many questions or concerns with my Catholic brothers and sisters. Specifically on the topic of Mary, could you further expand how you view her? What is the purpose of the rosary? To my understanding, it is mostly a meditation (which is MOSTLY fine in my opinion, although many verses to suggest we should meditate on Jesus and God our Father alone) but most Catholics I speak to have told me it’s asking her to intercede for us - which I feel is alarming because of scripture (1 Timothy 2:5 is the first one that pops up in my head). Any response is greatly appreciated! I hope you feel my respect through this questioning.

[@andrewwoolwine1099]

If they wouldnt change their interpretations on the daily 🤷 concerning Mary.. she seems to be a moving target

[@teresabryson9657]

I know Mary by what scriptures tell me alone…. There is only one sinless spotless lamb🐑✝️ JESUS Who died for my sin.

[@EBell-w1m]

Was Eve sinless? Cuz she's the sec Eve

[@Shan71097]

Yes eve saw sinless before the fall.

[@federicomarz5161]

To me it makes more sense that Jesus took flesh from a sinless flesh, Mary. Bible is clear: the woman is enemy of the serpent. Eve can't be this woman..she already sinned, so she became a friend of the serpent. When the Bible talks about this woman it is speaking about a person, not as a symbol of the church..as protestants invented and believe

[@youngsterjoey9038]

@@EBell-w1m No. Eve sinned just like her husband.

[@Deploracle]

How does good fruit come from a bad tree? Scripture maintains that it is impossible.

[@AeiaCrux]

I’m a Catholic. I’m glad you are covering Catholic Faith.

[@Vlabar]

"my spirit rejoices in my God my savior" -Mary (who needs a savior because she's a sinner)

[@jd3jefferson556]

When you are prevented from sinning, is that because of God's grave keeping you from sinning?🤔

[@Catholicsquirrel]

Catholics believe God’s grace was retroactively given to Mary and prevented the sin. So, this argument does not work

[@s-tei5083]

Luke 1:26-28 "And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace" Is there room for sin in a person full of grace? Does he need more grace not to sin?

[@timiscorner4601]

Do babies need a savior though they have not sin yet?

[@catholicrusader7]

@Vlabar God saved her from falling into sin. So yeah God is her saviour. Try again

[@jerricoej]

Luke‬ ‭11‬:‭27‬-‭28‬ ‭‬‬ “a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” But Jesus said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” ‭‭

[@FEEKAP]

His point was don’t put parents above the word of lord - not the mothers weren’t special

[@Matze1988ok]

@@FEEKAP Find it always amusing when people speak for jesus

[@jayrocky9067]

Amen….. mic 🎤 drop

[@thomasberar4311]

@@jerricoej Mary was more blessed in accepting the faith of Christ than in conceiving the flesh of Christ. To someone who said, “Blessed is the womb that bore you,” he replied, “Rather, blessed are they who hear the word of God and keep it.”Finally, for his brothers, his relatives according to the flesh who did not believe in him, of what advantage was that relationship? Even her maternal relationship would have done Mary no good unless she had borne Christ more happily in her heart than in her flesh. - St. Augustine

[@Ribastein]

Just ignore the angels greeting to Mary, Elizabeth's greeting when Mary visits an̈d revelations. He is trying to stress how important it is to keep the word of God by being extreme. Interestingly those that keep the word of God are also known as saints. The church honors them to.

[@user-ks3qr5fk6m]

Merry Christ’s Mass ❤

[@meowmeowmeow1243]

This Queen of Heaven stuff makes me really uncomfortable. You`d think if this character was so important, it would be mentioned more in the Bible. Mary is barely even mentioned by the earliest church fathers. Irenaeus mentions her, but more in relation to the Son she gave birth to, which is more God`s work than Mary's. Edit - Watched the video again, the arguments are very weak. Even if Mary was sinless, she could not have done this through her own strength, but had to be enabled to do so by God. The documents he mentions are hundreds of years after the apostles, and while he claims that it took the church hundreds of years to get their doctrine straight, I encourage you to read early church fathers like Irenaeus. Catholics (and orthodox) seem OBSESSED with worshipping Mary. We have a Bible, we have Jesus Christ who died for our sins and is now at the right hand of the Father. Why do you always need more ? Why isn`t Christ enough? Why do you need to worship saints, Mary, images and idols? Read your Bible, and pray to God, its simple. If there is something God chose to not reveal, we will find about it in Heaven. But if its not in the Bible, and it cannot be clearly deduced from its verses (like the concept of Trinity), stay away from it, because its probably just the traditions of men.

[@MiraclesFSC]

Exactly.

[@luk1e._.pook1e]

yes dude exactly

[@georgeibrahim7848]

Hail Holy Queen 👑

[@roshankurien203]

@@meowmeowmeow1243 yeah like the table of content of the Bible 😂😂😂…

[@jayorti]

12 “A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head@

[@VersatilisPeritus]

Ignatius of Antioch “Make certain, therefore, that you all observe one common Eucharist; for there is but one Body of our Lord Jesus Christ, and but one cup of union with his Blood, and one single altar of sacrifice-even as there is also but one bishop, with his clergy and my own fellow servitors, the deacons. This will ensure that all your doings are in full accord with the will of God” (Letter to the Philadelphians 4 [A.D. 110]).

[@franktheyankee]

Great to see these sort of discussions. Respectful, honest, and purposeful.

[@28Burned]

Luke 1:47: Mary herself declares, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.” This indicates that she, too, needed a Savior, which would not be necessary if she were sinless. While Mary was uniquely “highly favored” (kecharitōmenē in Luke 1:28), this word reflects God’s grace upon her, not her inherent sinlessness.

[@T.Truthtella-n3i]

Mary is forever sinless.

[@luk1e._.pook1e]

@@T.Truthtella-n3i give me one verse dude. i need ONE fr

[@FEEKAP]

If you’re “full of grace” you can’t be a sinner. Multiple things can be true at once. You cannot be sinner & still need God.

[@luk1e._.pook1e]

@@FEEKAP "you cannot be a sinner and still need God" what? i'm a sinner and need God? also, the holy spirit lives in me and every other Christian. you could say we are full of grace in the sense we are full of the holy spirit. my mom let me have 4 cookies instead of 3 cus i was extra hungry, so she could be "full of grace" too. it doesn't mean spotless, or sinless. the bible explicitly states "Jesus was blameless and without sin." it doesn't ever say that about mary other than she was "highly favored," which she WAS, because God gave her the SPECIAL responsibility and good news that she would give birth to the messiah. she still needed a savior, she still needed God. she wasn't sinless. for all have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God. not the glory of God and mary.

[@Catechuman23]

Or maybe He was her Savior from the moment of her conception to prepare the womb for which He entered into the world.

[@juanalvarado4243]

46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.” 48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

[@geoffjs]

What is your point?

[@paulabrink1625]

The point is Mary needed a savior just like us❤

[@geoffjs]

@@paulabrink1625 Agreed, no one said otherwise. She was saved at the moment of her Immaculate Conception as she had to be spotless to be the Theotokos or Ark of the New Covenant

[@willionaire30]

I often think about this and Luke 11:27-28 when the topic of Mary is brought up.

[@garyr.8116]

@@willionaire30 Because your lens has been formed to bring Mary down any chance you get? Careful with that, as it's God Himself who set Enmity between the woman and the dragon (there is NO middle ground) - which side of this Enmity are you on?

[@navigatorofthevalley]

Pretty crazy NOT to hold her in high esteem as she literally was the mother of Jesus.

[@arangerinwhite]

I mean sure. But the line has to be drawn as praying to her right?

[@KrissyVibes22]

@@arangerinwhite Again, classic PROTESTANT PROPAGANDA followed by the lost & proud.

[@B_wavy96]

She was used as the womb but that’s it. Jesus always called her woman. He did not want us to be doing what the Catholics are doing now. Treating her as the same level as Jesus and worshipping Her, creating statues of her. Jesus died for us not Mary. We even see Catholics praying and asking things in prayer to Joseph 🤣 Catholics claim to compile the Bible but their teachings contradict the Bible.

[@davidandbernadettegockowsk9077]

@@arangerinwhite PRAY tell me why?

[@borghini3580]

He just made a simple statement and you lash out on a fellow Christian like that? Maybe you are the lost and proud one.

[@santosh92]

Great collab! Ive been loving these videos the last few days

[@neldisla2059]

Hail Mary! She is my Blessed Mother and I love and respect her. She was chosen from the beginning to birth my Savior Jesus. She is special. She is sinless. She is unique and Catholics honor her. Always and forever! Blessed are you amongst women.

[@jacquesvincent3897]

1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

[@LeeBell77]

Out of curiosity, what would catholics usually say to ‭‭Romans‬ ‭3‬:‭10‬-‭12‬, “as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” To me it seems scripture teaches that only God is without sin.. Jesus said “No one is good but God alone..” Also making a claim to deity because Jesus was indeed good, making him God.. Hard for me to reconcile this ..

[@rithinsiby2653]

@@LeeBell77 God is sinless by nature, but God can share his grace to humans, this is what incarnation does, we believe jesus gave the eternal grace of the incarnation to Mary,so that he could take a sinless human nature from her, so that not only God can show that he can save a person from sin but also from not falling to sin. Mary is not righteous or not a sinner due to her own power but the power of her son, we believe that this was applied to Mary from time of her conception.

[@Thelittlepistols]

@@rithinsiby2653all of this seems entirely extra biblical. What SCRIPTURE can you use to show this?

[@acTioNFLp]

Right, Mary is not righteous by herself, nor is anybody else. She was made righteous by the grace of God, just like we all can be. The difference is that Mary was made righteous in a different way them us, God gave her His grace in a different manner.

[@ReyChurchill]

@@acTioNFLpGod made all of us righteous through Jesus Christ. Where do you get that he made Mary sinless in another way?

[@acTioNFLp]

@@ReyChurchill From Gen 3:15, Luke 1:28, other passages and countless Early Church fathers.

[@juanalvarado4243]

46 And Mary said: “My soul glorifies the Lord 47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,

[@nickfedor210]

They are correct. It is a great 'assumption' that she was taken into heaven, sinless, and as a virgin

[@T.Truthtella-n3i]

It’s what the Church of the Living God teaches. To deny it is to call God a liar to His Face.

[@ReyChurchill]

@@T.Truthtella-n3ithe leader of the “church of the living God” also recently said that all religions lead to God.

[@gs.daniel87]

Mary as the Queen of Heaven or directly details of her Assumption. These doctrines are derived from biblical typology, implicit references, and Church tradition. Below are some key scriptural passages often cited in support of these beliefs: --- Mary as the Queen of Heaven 1. Revelation 12:1 "A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head." This passage is often interpreted by Catholics and Orthodox Christians as symbolizing Mary, the mother of Jesus, in her glorified, queenly role in heaven. The "crown" reflects her queenship. 2. 1 Kings 2:19 "So Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah. The king stood up to meet her, bowed down to her, and sat down on his throne. He had a throne brought for the king's mother, and she sat down at his right hand." In Israelite tradition, the king's mother (the queen mother, or gebirah) held a special place of honor. Mary, as the mother of Jesus (the King of Kings), is seen as the Queen Mother in the heavenly kingdom. --- Mary's Assumption 1. Psalm 132:8 "Arise, O Lord, into Your resting place, You and the ark of Your strength." Mary is often typologically identified as the "Ark of the Covenant" because she bore Jesus, the Word of God. Just as the ark was taken into the temple, Mary is believed to have been assumed body and soul into heaven. 2. Luke 1:28 "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you!" The phrase "full of grace" (kecharitomene in Greek) implies a unique, sinless state. This is interpreted as supporting her Assumption, as death and bodily corruption are consequences of sin. 3. Revelation 11:19 - 12:1 "Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there appeared a great sign in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun..." The mention of the Ark of the Covenant, immediately followed by the vision of the woman, suggests Mary as the new Ark in her glorified state in heaven. -------- Typology: The Ark of the Covenant and Mary There is a profound typological parallel between the Ark of the Covenant returning to King David in the Old Testament and Mary's visitation to Elizabeth in the New Testament. This typology underscores Mary as the new Ark of the Covenant, carrying Jesus, the Word of God. Notably, both David, a high priest figure, and John the Baptist, the son of a high priest, play key roles in this parallel. --- The Ark of the Covenant Returns to David 2 Samuel 6:9-16 The Ark is brought to the house of Obed-Edom and remains there for three months (2 Samuel 6:11). David, acting as a high priest (1 Chronicles 15:27), asks, "How can the ark of the Lord come to me?" (2 Samuel 6:9). David dances and leaps with joy before the Ark (2 Samuel 6:14). The Ark symbolizes God’s presence and blessing among His people. --- Mary Visits Elizabeth Luke 1:39-56 Mary travels to the house of Elizabeth and stays for three months (Luke 1:56). Elizabeth, filled with the Holy Spirit, asks, "Why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" (Luke 1:43). John the Baptist, the son of Zechariah (a high priest from the line of Aaron), leaps in Elizabeth’s womb at Mary’s greeting (Luke 1:41). Mary is carrying Jesus, the Word of God incarnate, who is God’s presence among His people. --- Typological Connections 1. The Ark and Mary as Vessels of God's Presence The Ark of the Covenant contained: The tablets of the Law (Word of God). Aaron’s staff (symbol of priesthood). Manna (bread from heaven). Mary, as the new Ark, carried Jesus: The Word of God made flesh. The eternal High Priest. The Bread of Life. 2. Three Months of Presence The Ark remains in the house of Obed-Edom for three months, bringing blessing. Mary stays with Elizabeth for three months, carrying Jesus and bringing joy. 3. Leaping with Joy in the Presence of God David, a high priest figure, leaps and dances before the Ark. John the Baptist, the son of a high priest, leaps in Elizabeth’s womb when Mary, the new Ark, arrives. 4. "How can the ark/mother of my Lord come to me?" David’s question mirrors Elizabeth’s awe and recognition of Mary’s unique role. --- This typology highlights Mary as the new Ark of the Covenant, emphasizing her unique and sacred role in salvation history. The involvement of high priestly figures-David in the Old Testament and John the Baptist in the New Testament-underscores the divine presence and priestly significance of this moment. --- Tradition and Development These doctrines are also supported by early Christian writings and Church tradition. The Assumption of Mary was formally defined as dogma by Pope Pius XII in 1950, while her title as Queen of Heaven has been part of the Church’s devotion for centuries. Both are understood as consistent with Scripture and apostolic teaching.

[@ReyChurchill]

Very far fetched. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit. We carry him and he lives inside of us. Does that make me sinless? Who is higher Jesus or the Holy Spirit?

[@calebsmith1899]

She was ASSUMED into Heaven by the power of God. She did not ascend by her own power.

[@KnightFel]

That’s just an assumption.

[@tacticaltemplar875]

@@KnightFel I see what you did there. 😏

[@claybody]

Thank you. Why is it so hard for people to comprehend the difference?

[@fre7717]

funny story, Mary not the first to be taken up to heaven.

[@TheresaCronin-kc6wz]

They don’t want to

[@stevieb931]

"We don't worship her the way we worship God" that says it all.

[@danib712]

Right! I hope more people notice that

[@Matze1988ok]

We dont worship her at all, Worship requires a Deity and she isn't so we cant worship her. Asking her to pray/intercede for us is not worship.

[@stevieb931]

@@Matze1988ok sure you don't. The only person who can intercede for us is Jesus yet you pray to Mary to intercede. No wonder why we have a jelous God.

[@stevieb931]

@@danib712 pray for them

[@Matze1988ok]

@@stevieb931 You know what intercession even means? and what worship means? Worship requires a Deity... you get that or? Catholics don't consider Mary a Deity, so we cant per definition worship her... If i ask you to pray for me then you do intercede for me in a way. That's literally what happens when you ask Mary to pray/intercede for you...

[@stefan00017]

Literally non of these "major" beliefs are seen in The Bible. Only in traditions

[@T.Truthtella-n3i]

Tradition PRECEDES Scripture.

[@jd3jefferson556]

The Bible itself is tradition

[@MiraclesFSC]

No the Bible is the word of God. This whole Mary dogma is man made tradition. Like Jesus said "so, for the sake of tradition, you have made void the word of God"

[@pianoatthirty]

@@MiraclesFSC You have no idea that what you are asserting is a man-made Protestant tradition - claiming that Tradition and Scripture somehow contradict each other. Thank God people with a modicum of intelligence are actually studying Christian history today.

[@drjanitor3747]

“Hail full of grace”- straight from scripture.

[@johna3322]

There was no need to define this dogma about the Theotokos the virgin Mary, because EVERY APOSTOLIC CHURCH BELIEVED IT! Why would you need to define it otherwise?

[@Chris-no8yb]

That's how many dogmas came to be defined, friend. They define them to make it absolutely clear what the truth is, in response to nasty heresies and ideologies.

[@johna3322]

@Chris-no8yb exactly.

[@NotSoCradleCatholic]

They made it binding on ur faith, that’s what a dogmatic definition is. It means that this doctrine has been divinely revealed by God

[@davidandbernadettegockowsk9077]

The Protestants deny it and their modernist theologies were impacting the Catholic West, a dogma isn’t defined until it’s challenged

[@JohnGiovanny]

Because of some sect that appear in the 16th Century.

[@bencook6585]

Protestants tend to be extremely ignorant about WHEN the Marian dogmas began to appear. It was remarkably early. Epiphanius, for instance, was affirming the Assumption of Mary in the year 377. Likewise a great proof for the assumption of Mary being an early tradition is that, before the council of Chalcedon, which most protestants accept the teaching of, the emperor asked the bishop of Jerusalem to bring with him to Chalcedon Mary's relics (namely, her bones). The bishop replied that there were no relics of Mary, and that she had been taken up into heaven at her death. The other Marian dogmas are even earlier than that. If these dogmas were already present and well established by Chalcedon, protestants really have no solid footing for rejecting them, unless they also reject Chalcedonian Christianity.

[@justchilling704]

This is already known, however 3 of the Marian dogmas are at minimal one to two hundred years removed from the apostles, and have no scriptural backing whatsoever.

[@ReyChurchill]

I am a Protestant and I am aware. The protoevangelium of James was written in 150 AD and was heavily circulating at that time. That’s how Catholics and their veneration of Mary started. You will not find any veneration or prayer to the saints or Mary before 200 AD.

[@bencook6585]

@justchilling704 "No scriptural backing whatsoever" is just false as well. You just interpret scripture differently. Also for a protestant who argues that something arising in the 4th century and being continually taught and practiced for the next 1000+ years after, I would say this. What took the reformers so long? If this was an accretion, did the gates of Hell prevail against God's church for the at least 600 years when there was only 1 church (before the orthodox schism)? You're left then arguing that your interpretation of scripture is enough to contradict hundreds of years of scriptural interpretation within the church, which is a profoundly arrogant thing to assert.

[@Cayday89]

As a Protestant, I respect Alex in his thorough knowledge of how the RCC came to their conclusions, even if I don’t agree with them. Wesley Huff is a very knowledgeable Baptist historian and would give a great interview and different perspective. God Bless ✝️

[@FEEKAP]

Not agreeing with reality is wild 😂

[@AntXUnofficial]

How do you disagree? That’s just opinion now after he was stating cold, hard facts

[@wagegift6236]

Oh is Wes a Baptist? I thought he was protestant. Either way he is great at what he does.

[@Cringedetected467]

@@FEEKAPDepends. Do you believe all “facts” presented to you? Regardless, it’s argued that these are assumptions about Mary from early prayers that they link to certain scripture. These isn’t 100% undeniable evidence. Lol

[@joshuapizarro3231]

“As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭11‬:‭27‬-‭28‬ ‭ESV‬‬ But why did Jesus make this statement. I would like to hear a good faith refutation by any catholic brothers. I’m a Protestant 😊

[@schld7976]

Ask yourself does the above statement exlude Mary? The answer is no. Mary is not blessed becuase she gave birth to Jesus. She first listened to the word of God, to near perfection compared to any other creature, her reward for it was that she was honoured by the 2nd person of the trinity to be his mother. To be the only person in all eternity to say to that same person, flesh from my flesh and bone from my bone. That is why she is blessed.

[@juangutierrez1883]

Yes Jesus is affirming Mary is blessed because she heard the word of God and kept it.

[@user-ks3qr5fk6m]

Is this hyperbole? In other parts, Mary is said to be blessed among all women. The Bible doesn’t contradict itself. What is Jesus trying to say here? Is it to discredit the blessedness of his mother or is it trying to make a point through exaggeration? The Bible says to Honor your father and mother. Jesus kept the law perfectly. When Jesus says, “Unless you hate father and mother.. you are not worthy of me”. To paraphrase. It’s hyperbole, meaning that we should love him above everyone and everything.

[@truthnotlies]

She did hear the word and she kept it lol. That's why she's double blessed. She nursed GOD and obeyed Him. Wowza!

[@schld7976]

@@user-ks3qr5fk6m amen! And if it isn't already clear what the hyperbole in the statement of hating your mother and father is, he means compared to your love for God, the love you have for your parents must almost look like you hate them

[@catharsis77]

Luke 1:46 And Mary said: “My soul [a]magnifies the Lord, 47 And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. 48 For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. 49 For He who is mighty has done great things for me, She was a Godly woman who had the faith of Abraham and trusted God for salvation because she was a sinner as we all are or she would not have needed a Savior.

[@user-ks3qr5fk6m]

In the Book of Luke, the Bible says that she was full of grace. Since when are sinners full of grace? Your interpretation is not biblical.

[@pumpkin1982]

All truths of Christianity are a paradox. We are full of grace and yet remain blood covered sinners.

[@catharsis77]

@@user-ks3qr5fk6m Grace is unmerited favor. She didn't "merit" being Christ's birthmother, as Godly as she was. Her soul was glorifying God for His work in her, not Her righteousness that you claim for her. The Bible doesn't teach to pray to her to try to influence or command Jesus. Jesus says that he who comes to Him He will in no wise cast out and that HE is the only mediator between God and man. He died and rose again to establish that, do not give His honor to another. That is unbiblical.

[@baselius662]

@@catharsis77 the Catholic church would agree with you. Mary did not merit the grace, her soul was glorified by God. To pray is to ask, how come this is so confusing for modern protestants. You ask others to pray on your behalf, it functions the same way for those whom have passed into the next life. James 5:16 16-18 NKJV Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, [k]fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. 17 Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain; and it did not rain on the land for three years and six months. 18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth produced its fruit. We are called to pray for each other. The prayer of an righteous man (i.e a saint) is more effective, thus we turn to the saints to pray for us.

[@catholicrusader7]

Yes God saved her from ever falling into sin. There

[@gilbertflores9811]

I would like to see Voice of Reason debut Wes Huff. Wow, this is so interesting. Thanks can't wait to see more from The Voice

[@ChrisMeyers-dq9bv]

Luke 1:47 "My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant." Mary is blessed among women, but she herself needs a savior too. No need of a savior if you have not sinned.

[@kewpified]

God saved Mary by preventing her from original sin from the moment of her conception, (that's why she's refered to as the Immaculant conception) applying the grace of Jesus' future sacrifice in advance because He is outside time. Just like someone might be saved by being prevented from falling into a pit, Mary needed a Savior, and God saved her in this extraordinary way so she could be a pure and holy mother for Jesus. This unique gift doesn't make her less dependent on God-it shows His power and mercy. Immaculate Conception Explained The Catholic Church teaches that Mary was preserved from original sin from the moment of her conception by a unique grace from God, in anticipation of the merits of Jesus Christ. This teaching is based on Luke 1:28, where the angel Gabriel calls her "full of grace," implying a special fullness of God’s life and holiness in her. God's Timelessness: God exists outside of time, so the saving grace of Jesus' sacrifice on the Cross could be applied to Mary at her conception. This is similar to paying a debt before it is due. Prevention vs. Cure Analogy: Imagine someone falling into a pit (sin) and being rescued (salvation). Due to original sin, humanity is born in the pit so to speak. Mary, however, was saved by being prevented from falling into the pit in the first place. God "saved" her by preserving her from sin entirely. Mary Calling God Her Savior: In Luke 1:47, Mary rejoices in "God my Savior" because she, like all human beings, depends entirely on God for salvation. The difference is how she was saved: For us, salvation is a cure for sin already committed. For Mary, salvation was a prevention from sin by a singular grace. Biblical Parallels Genesis 3:15 refers to the "woman" whose offspring will crush the serpent's head. Catholics see this as a prophecy about Mary and her role in salvation history. Romans 5:19 speaks of Christ undoing Adam's sin. Mary, as the "New Eve," shares uniquely in this redemptive work by being sinless and fully obedient to God.

[@ChrisMeyers-dq9bv]

@kewpified I used to be Catholic but am now protestant. My issue is the scriptures never mention Mary being sinless. There are many spiritual heroes in the Bible who are favored and blessed above others and that includes Mary. The scriptures are very clear that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. The scriptures are very clear that Jesus was perfect without sin. When I was a Catholic, and issue I came across was that proclaiming Mary to be sinless instilled a respect for her that was almost adulterous. An example of this is praying to her. I think that she would have the same response as the angels did when they were worshiped, "don't bow to me, for I am a servant of the most high.'

[@SuperiorBeen]

Also one of the tradition of the Orthodox Church is the bodily assumption of Mary and we didn't had to wait until 1950 to create this dogma. It's an early apostolic belief.

[@geoffjs]

Yes, all the proclamation of the dogma did in 1950 was to officially confirm Church teaching

[@TheEmptyeye]

Anybody remember that time when the scriptures didn’t say that Mary was assumed into heaven? I’d say there’s a lot of “assuming” going on with this ‘belief’.

[@JGuti-ko2xe]

There are many things that the church received that are not mentioned in the bible (explicitly). John 21:25 (NRSVCE): But there are also many other things that Jesus did; if every one of them were written down, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. The understanding of the Trinity is not mentioned blatantly like, For the Lord is Triune, One God in three persons. There's also nowhere that Jesus says, I am God worship me. Nowhere in these exact words, does it say, Jesus is fully God and Fully man. This is what is dangerous about interpreting scripture on your own and not trusting that Jesus left a Church to guide those who want to know him and submit to him. 2 Peter 1:20-21 (NRSVCE): First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by human will, but men and women moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. 1 Timothy 3:15 (NRSVCE): If I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.

[@T.Truthtella-n3i]

Is the Bible in Scripture?

[@TheEmptyeye]

@ yes, many places. Example: Rev 22:9. (but what does that have to do with Mary?) 9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book *(βιβλίου):* worship God. Etymology: The word "Bible" derives from the Greek word "βιβλία" (biblia), meaning "books". The singular form is "βιβλίον" (biblion), which referred to a scroll or papyrus roll containing writing.

[@Tabatista281178]

“Why did it take 1000 years for it to be recognized?” Well, because this was always believed/know, when people started doubting it, is when there was a need to make it a dogma.

[@Backuptothehood55]

False, it was never discussed because it’s not biblical. Just like all the rest of modern day false theology.

[@bergeronwb]

This is taking a lot of mental gymnastics to try and tie everything in to Mary being assumed bodily up into heaven.

[@jd3jefferson556]

I don't think so. I mean she's explicitly bodily in Heave in Revelation. However, there are plenty of implicit truths in Scripture that help us realize this Truth. Such as Mary being at enmity with the snake and being full of grace.

[@pianoatthirty]

So why not just label all of Christianity "a lot of mental gymnastics"? It's called the deposit of faith that has been handed down to us. Faith is the key word.

[@jd3jefferson556]

@pianoatthirty no kidding 😅

[@davidandbernadettegockowsk9077]

@@pianoatthirty exactly, this is a double edged sword for the Protesters.

[@timothy209]

It's mental gymnastics because he is appealing to sources outside the Bible. The Bible does not support Marian dogma

[@Michelangelo-f6l]

Mary Theotokos was sinless and she CHOSE to not sin, not because she was "pre-programmed" to it.

[@bigsarge05]

I pray that the Panagia will intercede in our lives. Through the prayers of the Most Holy Theotokos, Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on us and save us!

[@brianh2477]

Props for having a knowledgeable Catholic on your channel. Being able to articulate the official position of the Catholic Church sure does break down barriers created by false claims by others.

[@Ylinsalmon123]

In conclusion, Mary is sinless and Mary didn’t have other children

[@danieladeyinka3829]

Ewoooooo

[@monicalopez4166]

Luke1:28-And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”

[@ZenSponge]

“Master teach us how to pray.” - The Apostles “Pray like this: Hail Mary, full of grace…” - Jesus Wait, that doesn’t seem right.

[@JoshYng]

Guess that’s why we start with “Our father who art in heaven…”

[@ZenSponge]

@ Is that why Jesus ended it with a “Hail Mary?” Oh, that’s right, he didn’t.

[@JoshYng]

@@ZenSponge no one ever claimed he did, nor that it was required to be said

[@ZenSponge]

@@JoshYng Ah, I must have imagined Father Garcia telling me to pray three Hail Mary’s, and four Our Fathers back when. Anyway: You start with “Our Father” because Christ explicitly stated that’s how you ought to pray (Matt 5 : 5-14). You are absolutely correct that he did not explicitly, or _even_ implicitly teach Marian intercessional prayer. I wonder if that’s why Stephen didn’t ask Mary to pray for him at the “hour of _his_ death?” It isn’t recorded that any of apostles did. Not strange at all that I’m sure.

[@pianoatthirty]

If we follow your logic, then praying to Jesus should be forbidden. Please give me the verse where Jesus specifically says to direct our prayers to him. But hey that's what happens when you cut off all tradition and think everything is "My Personal Interpretation of the Bible".

[@michaelong2625]

alex is so solid as ever... Gos bless you Alex of voice od reason....

[@MAGNUSTV-7]

It is a pure Blessing to be a Catholic and to experience all the Grace and Sacraments we get …

[@ronpopeh3924]

Just going to mention this: there is a quote mentioned by the guest but it is a mistranslation from what I gather. The word mentioned in Greek “kecharitomeni”, which the root is “charitoo”, is not full of grace. It is a special grace, a highly favored graced but it is also mentioned in Ephesians 1:6 to describe how God has made us “charitoo” in the beloved (Jesus Christ). Please look this up for yourselves. The words “full of grace” come from the Latin vulgate translation “gratia plena.” So, for the sake of discussion, it seems this same grace is given to us through Jesus Christ our Lord. Happy to hear other thoughts.

[@aprilsanchez5402]

Thank you for bringing that up! I replied to some of the commenters saying something similar. 😊 Merry Christmas!

[@ronpopeh3924]

@ merry Christmas!

[@VirtualShepherdOfficial]

This is how we got Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses. Reading the word in small bits, mistranslating it and then making conclusions not taking into account the truth of the entirety of the word.

[@kevincristino9136]

Quite the opposite. The reason why Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses deny basic revealed truths such as the Trinity, the Divinity of Jesus, and all else is because they do not scrutinize the scriptures and make conclusions based on superficial information. We need to read the word in small bits in order to avoid coming to our own judgments based on the general scope of things, because the larger picture does not say everything.

[@lancerialga7271]

Protestanism is exactly this. No ifs, buts, uhmmms, uhhs about it

[@kentadamson6992]

I think its more like the fruit of Sola Scriptura.

[@jonathanmendiola3775]

Well for technically Mormon is not part of Christianity because they don’t believe First doctrinal beliefs that Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox we all agree upon. Also Joseph Smith met an Angel, well the devil in disguise to preach a different gospel and a different Bible. For JW they made their own version of their Bible because they believe they find the true Christianity because they thought the Bible we use is corrupted from Emperor Constantine.

[@Abyssal-r8d]

I am surprised Catholic don't understand church traditions. Mary assumption is a fabrication. Also you criticise sola scriptura and don't understand that protestant hold different view with regards to sola scriptura. Athanasius or Justin Martyr used logic and scripture to argue their points. Yet you mocked their method. 🤦

[@teresahunt5521]

Protestants and Catholics are straining out gnats while the rest of the world swallows the proverbial camel. Jesus is our Lord and Savior. On that we can agree. Merry Christmas to all who who acknowledge Him!

[@FEEKAP]

& non-denominational‘s are barring their head in the sand, thinking that they follow God when they really don’t😂

[@teresahunt5521]

@FEEKAP And what are you?

[@kenid4144]

@@FEEKAP What does it mean to follow God?

[@3buzzy]

Ruslan is just making this up when he says “it seems like Mary is like a second Jesus.” That is Protestant slander. Pure BS.

[@ComedianBobFarrell]

@@3buzzy I have known Catholics to pray to Mary for forgiveness of sins and penance. I have also heard Catholics sing a song to Mary (Ave Maria). This is idol worship. Mary would be embarrassed because some Catholics worship her instead of the SAVIOR (JESUS). The TRINITY is the FATHER, SON (JESUS) and the HOLY SPIRIT. One GOD in three persons. Mary was a godly Jewish woman who GOD used in a special way She needed the SAVIOR just like the rest of us. Mary also died. I have Catholic relatives. My immediate family was Catholic until I was five. I have been to many masses. It is not Protestant slander. I take the Bible seriously and, I will call out hersey when it happens. In the video it was stated that the first record of the Assumption of Mary was in the fourth century. I go back to what JESUS and his apostles (Paul included) actually taught. I take the Bible seriously.

[@barbershopboy05]

I can list dozens of first hand experiences where my Catholics friends pray to Mary. I have yet to hear a single one of them pray to Christ. You can try to excuse it, but it is straight idolatry.

[@samoa7431]

​@@barbershopboy05 prayer is not worship

[@ALtheMeek722]

No, it’s a honest dissent to the issue at hand.

[@221WTF]

​@@barbershopboy05we do not pray to the blessed Mother! We ask her to pray for us. Non Catholics need to get this straight! The new covenant is Jesus and Mary. Before I converted, Mary was an afterthought. We pulled her out at Christmas and then put her back. Thats what you are doing. The blessed Mother has a lot bigger role than what you are giving her. And you do that at your own risk. Catholics only pray to Jesus! But we do revere the blessed Mother and the saints.

[@Veri7a]

8:57 this is where it gets inconsistent. He makes a large leap from "being kept from the devil" effectively protected from an exterior presence--to "kept her from sin" which is born from our own internal desires & temptations as fallen humans. Then he just moves on. Not to mention basing a dogma on Genesis and iffy Revelation passages with very little in the new testament (where she is mentioned the most). This whole idea seems unnecessary and closer to heresy than anything else.

[@Veri7a]

In addition Revelation is full of HEAVY symbolism so its weird to take certain parts of it literal and then have to ignore every other word such as the woman having wings, etc.

[@KillerofGods]

Not really, theologically/historically sin and the Devil are pretty similar, almost synonymous. As it is the Devil/Demons that often tempt us to sin.

[@KillerofGods]

​@@Veri7a? That doesn't change the meaning at all though... I think we'd all agree it uses symbolism, but the entire Bible uses symbolism so you cant invalidate the entire Bible. Not sure what your problem is here in that point.

[@Veri7a]

@@KillerofGods You should be looking to scripture to support your points, not ideas you have about sin & demons. James 1:14 says we are tempted by our own desires. This is a distinct point about sin being a choice we make, hence us being held responsible for the choice if we do not repent and trust Jesus. Otherwise how would we be held accountable for something the devil/demons made us do. That would be unjust.

[@Veri7a]

@@KillerofGods I am not invalidating the bible at all. I'm a believer through and through. My point is that he is taking parts of revelation and saying its literal and having to skip parts right after--essentially picking and choosing in an area that is notoriously difficult to interpret precisely. My problem is basing a dogma or doctrine on this. Not to mention pointing to the 5th century about a supposed conversation Jesus had outside of scripture. You have to admit..this sounds very cultish.

[@garetharmstrong2055]

How do we deal with Luke 2:48 and Mark 3:21; 31 where, in the text, Mary sins on two occasions? She forgets Jesus’ divine identity and secondly she tries to arrest him because she’s worried he’s gone out of his mind!

[@T.Truthtella-n3i]

Mary never sinned, to claim that she did is demonic blasphemy.

[@garetharmstrong2055]

@ so Luke and Mark under the guidance of the Holy Spirit are guilty of blasphemy? You have to explain the text, you can’t just dismiss it.

[@luk1e._.pook1e]

says who? who said she NEVER sinned? where does it say that in the scriptures? also is there not one mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ?

[@macp5992]

This was AMAZINGLY explained 👏🏾🌹

[@Catechuman23]

That's why he's the Voice of Reason 😂

[@giezicontreras2552]

Whether she died or not is also debated among Catholics

[@alisterrebelo9013]

The dogmatic definition leaves room to believe either way.

[@WittenbergProject]

I appreciate the attempt at push back from Ruslan about Mary being Dogma and the attempt of him at trying to prove Mary assumption from scripture. I think he wanted more scripture and proof on these matters, but he kept the interview moving.

[@19nineteenthirteen19]

"We don't worship her in the way we worship God." Right you worship her uniquely. Agreed.

[@sogodscanineeducator1450]

Again we do not worship Mary

[@Rubenclub23]

"Aw shux brother, ya really got us this time." 🤓

[@joenguyen9475]

There’s a difference between “pray” and “worship”. Worship requires a sacrifice.. that’s reserved for God exclusively.

[@FEEKAP]

Actually we don’t worship Mary. It’s yall who don’t worship God at all 😂

[@laurenlooolll]

Worship requires sacrifice, which is why Jesus told the Samaritan woman that soon worship would be everywhere (worship/sacrifice was at the Temple in Jerusalem). Since everyone anywhere could pray to God, we know that Jesus doesn’t equate pray to worship

[@gargamelgargamel6431]

I grew up catholic and a lot of the teachings I am still in bondage of

[@bidzam]

Does this guy know that when the Bible references a woman it actually refers to the church sometimes? So the verses he is quoting actually refer to the church, hence why Christ refers to his church as the Bride, and we know a Bride is a woman.

[@slim9139]

I thought the same thing

[@stevekamponda]

It's not about him, he's just explaining church teaching that has been there for centuries. I'm sure the church knows that woman also mean the church in some circumstances and they have reasons to believe what they believe.

[@Llumbet]

Merry Christmas 🎁🎄

[@Lets.TalkGod]

Byzantine Catholics celebrate the Dormition of the Theotokos (Mary), which commemorates her peaceful “falling asleep” and assumption into heaven. This feast is observed on August 15, the same date as the Roman Catholic celebration of the Assumption of Mary, but with theological and liturgical nuances specific to Eastern tradition.

[@willhosford6826]

Thank you for this video. It only strengthened my beliefs that the Catholic Church is espousing extra-biblical doctrines that cannot be found in the Bible with a properly contextualized reading.

[@srich7503]

You are certainly welcome to believe and profess whatever you want to believe, there are plenty of differing beliefs in the world today based on the Bible, just pick one. But to glean this from the historically decidedly Catholic Trinitarian book is just plain frivolous… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books, and ONLY the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church, guided by the Holy Spirit, that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 4th century, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself? Peace!!!

[@evanmontesofcolthrone]

The woman of Rev. 12 is not Mary, it is the nation of Israel. Mary fled to Egypt with her baby for an unknown time. THe Rev. 12 woman flees to the wilderness for a time, times and half a time, i.e. 3.5 years. This refers to the middle of the 7 year period, when antichrist breaks the covenant (Daniel 9:27) and starts his persecution of the Jewish nation (Mat. 24:15:21). Bad interpretations lead to bad timing of things to come, which leads to situations like the foolish virgins.

[@thatonecarlos]

My biggest question is on Mary being sinless. If Mary was sinless from birth through the grace of God, born to a mother and father who sin previously, why couldn't God just have enough grace for all of mankind in order to keep them from sinning in the first place? Unless Mary didn't have free will. And if that is the case, why can't I opt out of having free will and be a perfect representative for Christ, my Lord? I know there is probably a very theological answer of God's sovereignty and will and the plan for humanity for the glory of Jesus. I truly don't seek to pit my will against God's but I just feel extremely bad when hearing this and other things like the predestination stuff in the book of Romans. I am born 2000 years too late to experience Christ's time on Earth or the apostolic age or anything. Now I am just some guy in modern times, riddled with sin, and kinda feeling not good for anything compared to the important people for the past. How should I be looking at this because I know only centering the perspective on myself/my feelings leads to all sorts of sinful tendencies, mainly pride?

[@DethHead28]

That's a really good question actually. This is why only Christ is sinless, the way and the light. No one else, not even Mary. In a fallen world, Mary would be used to make Christ appear more optional. You shouldn't pray to anyone but Jesus. This is not an answer, this is my belief.

[@kyrptonite1825]

Mary is the New Eve and it’s done out of a particular grace, for that specific Role in the Salvation Plan.

[@aprilsanchez5402]

Christ didn't make a mistake with you. You are here for such a time as this. Christ has a calling for you. The fact that you are asking questions is humble and shows you're on the right track, brother. You have the same grace that the rest of us have and you don't have to worry about comparing yourself to others and their callings. All that will do is distract you from what the Lord has planned for you. Blessings, brother and Merry Christmas!

[@coolcatbaron]

Rom 11:32: "For God has imprisoned all in disobedience so that he may be merciful to all." The thing is that everyone else is by nature a son or daughter of Adam and Eve. God let mankind fall into sin, so that he could bring salvation to us all through His mercy and not as something we earned because we behaved well. In a sense it brings more glory to God that way, because God stands out as a merciful giver rather than a debt collector of what was due to Him. The reason why God preserved Mary from falling into sin is that she could be the new Eve. The fall happened because of two individuals, male and female, disobeying. And our salvation happened in the same regard. The devil could get dominion over Eve, but he could not have dominion over Mary. That's why there is enmity between the snake and the woman. Would the women sin, then it would be a game over for the woman. No sinner has anything he could use against the devil. It's an automatic defeat. God created not just men, but women also. If Christ, the man-god is our only example, then women are lacking a more specific role model for he was a man. That's why God had to provide a role model for women also, which is Mary. Christ is God descended from heaven, Mary is human ascended to heaven, participation in the divinity of her son out of Christ love for her and the whole church. Mary is also a symbol for the whole church, hence the imagery in Revelation kind of overlaps with the church. Mary had God in her through the incarnation. We have God in us because of the Holy Spirit and by eating the Eucharist, the flesh and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. God and mankind are united in Christ. Mary and the saints are glorified beings. They share in the glory that only belongs to God and which he couldn't just share in the Old Testament until Christ took mankind upon Himself, by redeeming us from sin and death.

[@kernlove1986]

The logical/theological conclusion that she did not sin or did not need to die. This was nutritious to my spirit despite it because I have learned a bit. God bless all of us believers in our Lord and God Jesus. God bless you and Merry Christmas.

[@TheresaCronin-kc6wz]

Voice of Reason does an incredible job. Unfortunately it falls on deaf ear s

[@Andarovin]

How rude you sound. We find his arguments lacking from established Biblical sources and frankly.....REASON!

[@olek5903]

Title is Misleading we believe Mary was assumed into Heaven not Ascended

[@pianoatthirty]

Old Testament versus the New Testament. Grace versus Works. Jesus versus Mary. Why are Protestants so unable to see how early Christianity is not ‘either/or’ but ‘both/and’?

[@bullzeye40]

So unable to see??, your catholic ego is showing

[@pianoatthirty]

​@@bullzeye40 You resort to emotionalism and insults instead of actually engaging with the idea. Nice!

[@luk1e._.pook1e]

what's a protestant? i'm a christian and i don't understand wym

[@nemo2341000]

Protestants aren't saying "Jesus vs Mary". They're saying Mary needed Jesus in the same way everyone else did.

[@aprilsanchez5402]

Merry Christmas! I just wanted to point out that Revelation 12 has absolutely nothing to do with Mary. The woman is Israel, which is why the crown on her head has twelve stars (twelve tribes of Israel). Not only can we tell these verses are about Israel by the context, but we can refer back to Genesis 37:9-10 where Joseph has a dream: Genesis 37:9-10 [9] Then he dreamed another dream and told it to his brothers and said, “Behold, I have dreamed another dream. Behold, the sun, the moon, and eleven stars were bowing down to me.” [10] But when he told it to his father and to his brothers, his father rebuked him and said to him, “What is this dream that you have dreamed? Shall I and your mother and your brothers indeed come to bow ourselves to the ground before you?”

[@abelyerikaguerra1540]

The women in Revelation is talking about Israel ot Mary....

[@T.Truthtella-n3i]

It’s actually referring to Holy Church (the new Israel.)

[@josephanthonyrafinski7430]

Mary NEVER Died & She NEVER Will Die! Amen. Amen. 🇻🇦🇺🇸

[@charlesmoronez2636]

My question for Alex is what Bible verse justifies praying the rosary with the hail Mary prayers compared to the Our Father ( Our Father prayer is in the Gospels Bible verses.)?

[@luciasss457]

I thought the Hail Mary prayer came from the Bible?

[@charlesmoronez2636]

@luciasss457 its not Biblical.

[@ewatkin2]

Literally scripture.

[@livarsfit]

the Hail Mary prayers are the words of the angel during the annunciation as well as Elizabeth during the visitation found in the gospel of Luke

[@Chuckecheesin]

Hail Mary Full of grace is literally the word of the angel Gabriel in scripture. The prayer comes from scripture 😊

[@vman9347]

Happy to say Devotions to St Joseph (Jesus adopted dad) has been growing. We even have a Saint Joseph Rosary now

[@pinkmillk]

Catholicism is based on a LOT of implied beliefs. Mental gymnastics are required to get to the same conclusion. 😒

[@RosaryQuickDraw]

Sola Scriptura has more implied beliefs, but you follow it. Ironic but unfortunately normal for some Protestants

[@ItsThatGuy1989]

The doctrine of the Trinity laid out in the councils is an implied belief that is not explicit in the text. Your argument isn't very valid

[@thesmallchocolateguy9331]

it's called theology, with what you call implied beliefs, Holy trinity was defined and many other Christian beliefs which protestants believe including the books to be put in the Bible. Were all defined by Catholic Bishops

[@Eric-dd8bk]

And word gymnastics.

[@FEEKAP]

Protestantism is based on all man-made beliefs 😂😂😂 & not to mention being self entitled that you could interpret scripture on your own and whatever you feel as though it is, it is😂

[@Seabass1206]

mary is the mother of God and we venerate her for being the mother of God! It isn’t Mary we worship but the idea that Jesus was flesh and God!

[@thovenach]

Some protestants domt give mary enough respect. Well an angel gave her respect saying you are full of grace before Jesus was conceived in her womb. Mary was called blessed among women by Elizabeth moved by the spirit of God or the holy spirit. John leaped in elizabethss womb at the sound of marys voice. Jesus said blessed are those who believe without seeing. Elizabeth said to her blessed are you who believed the lord would fulfill her promise. Mary is blessed and Christians give her no respect by calling her just a holy woman.

[@JesusOVEReverything777]

She was just a holy woman that God chose for His son to give birth to. Just because she was ‘blessed’ does not mean she is to be worshiped nor prayed to. She was born in sin like you and I. Those facts don’t attribute to disrespect. They are just the facts

[@straightoutacopenhagen1672]

​@@JesusOVEReverything777 we don't worship or pray to her. We ask her to pray for us like we do the saints. It's not the same thing.

[@JesusOVEReverything777]

@ it is totally the same thing, Catholicism just likes to change definitions. If you are communicating with somebody that is no longer physically here on this earth, but is a spirit…. Then you are praying to that spirit. The word of God says that there is only one mediator between God and man, and that is Jesus. If you are calling on someone else to mediate on your behalf, then you are attributing worship to that person. And why would you not just pray directly to Jesus who lives to intercede for us.??

[@ivangutierrez7477]

@@straightoutacopenhagen1672 so you literally just admitted you pray to saints !

[@stjustinthemartyrapostlesc2412]

It’s called intercession of saints, they are more alive than we are. They are part of the body of Christ

[@oggolbat7932]

Quick point: Both Calvin and Luther believed in the sinlessness of Mary

[@juanalvarado4243]

27 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” 28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

[@Deploracle]

28 doesn't sound like Him at all. "Rather" here means instead of. That would be borderline disrespecting His mother. Blessed "also" sounds more like the Christ I know. I suspect a little modification through translation has occurred here.

[@believejesuschristislord1100]

@juanalvarado4243 Yes, and Mary perfectly heard the Word of God and obeyed the Word of God until the end. Jesus always honoured and elevated his mother. He fulfilled all prophesies and laws, inc. Honour your father and mother.

[@davidandbernadettegockowsk9077]

@@believejesuschristislord1100yes!

[@danib712]

@@Deploracleyou just made that up

[@Deploracle]

@@danib712 Indeed. I couldn't lift my opinion out of a book somewhere.

[@delvingeorge2807]

My Man ! Voice of Reason on Ruslan!❤ Merry Christmas!! 🎄

[@quickhash7303]

Bro, keep it on youtube.

[@ManuelHernandez-xt8pr]

23:00 there is no comparing any Protestant sect 500 years ago until now piecing together arguments with those in the third century. To disregard when the beliefs came about is resistance really wanting to find out the truth.

[@galaxyneo1287]

Respectfully, i feel like we Christians are arguing about the wrong things, the main things are have we accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour are we living repentant lives are we constantly making God the center of our lives and abiding by his Will. This is just my personal opinion

[@jd3jefferson556]

Well there are some things we can't disagree on. Just look at Church history and how harshly heresys were handled in the first 800 years of the Church

[@messtomessage1]

But the Veneration of Mary is idolatry.. Idolatry is a serious sin...

[@omes00]

Jesus also refers to the Samarian woman as "woman" later on in John 4:21. "Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father..." so I remain unconvinced of this logic. Appreciate the heart of Catholics and their reverence for God, and would encourage everyone to read the bible for themselves as well - I mean really dig deep and meditate on its truths - in addition to listening and submitting to their teachers. You won't believe how blessed you will be for doing this. As Psalm 19 says, God's word truly revives the soul, makes the simple wise and enlightens the eyes. It is more to be desired than much fine gold and sweeter than the honeycomb! Wishing all who call on the name of the Lord (no matter which Christian tradition) a blessed Christmas!

[@roshankurien203]

I dare Ruslan to call Sam shamoun.

[@danny_r27]

Why? To get cussed at and insulted? 😂

[@roshankurien203]

Well if your that daft yeah I guess

[@maikilreategui1271]

Sam is way beyond him 😅

[@B_wavy96]

I’d love to see Sam Shamoun destroy voice of reason

[@roshankurien203]

@ Sam has no beef with any apostolic churches

[@neldisla2059]

Mary Christ Mass ✝️✝️✝️

[@levrai944]

The next Catholic guests you should get on your show Dr. Scott Hahn, Dr. John Bergsma, and Dr. Brant Pitre. These 3 are juggernauts when it comes to the Catholic faith, excellent biblical scholars, two of which were former Protestant pastors as well.

[@eugene3484]

I’m leaning towards catholism. Which one of those names do you recommend first

[@AK-wc9rl]

@@eugene3484 Dr Brant Pitre for me but all three are excellent.

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

What convinced you of catholicism?

[@eugene3484]

@ thanks I’m listening to Scott now

[@eugene3484]

@ for me it was the teachings and practices look similar to how the early church was Also knowing that the church was catholic for the first 1000 years and Protestants came after Martin Luther.

[@f.r.e.e8099]

Correct this... Our mother St Mary don’t ascend but she was assumed!!!

[@omegagoku89]

@14:09 This is true! The OLDEST known Christian prayer ever archeologically found is the Sub Tuum Praesidium... and it is a prayer to Mary! 🙏🏻 It dates back to the mid-late 200s AD (ish). It was discovered on a papyrus fragment in Egypt. The prayer is: "We fly to your patronage, O holy Mother of God; despise not our petitions in our necessities, but deliver us always from all dangers, O glorious and blessed Virgin." Also, I think the title is a good example of how one little word can create a lot of confusion and division. As Catholics, we believe Mary was ASSUMED into Heaven (God's power, similar to Elijah/Enoch)... not ASCENDED (her own power). That one little word changes EVERYTHING. Sadly, even some poorly catechized Catholics are confused about that... which could lead to possible worship of her as "god-like"... but that is not what the Catholic Church teaches at all. Worship is reserved for God alone.

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

Why isn't maryiology found in the New Testament or the earliest apostolic church fathers?

[@jontoland3491]

You are mistaken. We have many prayers of jesus. None of them included mary in the way you portray. Mary was a human being, created as we all are. This is not true of jesus. Adding to the words of god is a foolish thing

[@bryangormann214]

That's weird I don't remember jesus praying to anybody but the father in his prayers...no prayers to any judges or prophets or kings..just the father

[@T.Truthtella-n3i]

Explain to me why Mariology has to be mentioned in the memoirs/letters of the Apostles? Their letters did not pertain to that particular topic.

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

@@T.Truthtella-n3i Because if it's so so so important to Catholics then why didn't literally ANY apostle talk about it, let alone anyone in the first 200 years of the church?

[@CPATuttle]

I get that marian dogma's are confusing to find in the early church. But the eucharist and apostolic succession are not. Same with there is no sola scriptura of the 66 books

[@glaktic3108]

“Super fascinating how you explained the scripture behind the catholic veneration of Mary but to me, I’m just going to ignore that.” God bless you brother hope to see you in the Catholic Church soon.

[@davidcampos9768]

Marry called her own son Jesus , her redeemer . If Mary was sinless not deserving judgement nor death like all of us children of Adam and Eve , then how come she needed Jesus to be her redeemer ? She was a special , wonderful believer in Yeshua the Messiah and nothing more. Jesus is everything . God with us . We must keep our eyes on Him alone .

[@mattb4249]

That was quite a display of theological gymnastics I must say. Also, sounds like Mary was a single mother 19:42

[@jnkgc7428]

Agreed This all concept that Mary is the mother of God and eternal being is absurd to me

[@tillo1981]

If Ruslan said he's never heard of this, many protestants too, then they still have much to learn in scripture! Just an observation.

[@durz0111.]

Dude is the definition of "Trust me bro"😂

[@noahbrusseau898]

What do Catholics do with the 3 1/2 years in revelation 12? It says that God nourished the women for 3 1/2 years after Jesus returned to his thrown.

[@jaytkadv2429]

Revelation 12 is not about Mary I thought it was at first. But it’s clearly about Isreal if you study the scriptures.

[@drxljrcc]

yeah convinced yourself. clearly a woman "12 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. '

[@geert-jandekrijger6432]

It can’t be the church because the church, or at least a big part of the church, is later mentioned separately. ‘And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.’ ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12‬:‭17‬

[@Chuckecheesin]

It's def about Mary

[@Abyssal-r8d]

Revelation 12 is not indeed about Mary. The signs in that vision are present in the vision of Joseph. No need indeed to innovate for something that is already there. But they wouldn't know that. Rev 12:1 " A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head" parallel this Genesis 37:9 "Then he had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. “Listen,” he said, “I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.”" We already have the interpretation of who this is from Genesis 37. We don't need made up stories.

[@Abyssal-r8d]

​@@Chuckecheesinno it's not.

[@SparkyKev]

If Mary was sinless, why couldn’t she have just died for the sins of the world?

[@neldisla2059]

Because it’s not what you want it’s what God wants.