2025 Toyota Crown Signia XLE is rated 38 MPG... Here are my CITY and HIGHWAY results

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Kirk Kreifels

Kirk Kreifels

Күн бұрын

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@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
Kirk, Let's face it, you are a born rebel! Who else does a highway 'economy' run in the passing lane? 😂 38-40 mpg at 75-80 mph is darn impressive for a big, luxurious car like the Signia XLE. If given the chance, I am confident I would be getting over 45 mpg while hogging the right lane. 😉
@ljpr360
@ljpr360 Ай бұрын
I work at a Toyota Dealership, all my friends in sales call it a Station Wagon & we love it!
@moneypressoverdrive2020
@moneypressoverdrive2020 9 күн бұрын
when i test drove it the gas pedal needed to pressed very hard to even get started... was very weird unlike any car i've ever tested
@stevennevins6643
@stevennevins6643 Ай бұрын
I’ve just passed 3,000 miles in my Signia Limited. Averaging 38.5 mpg with about 80% highway miles at 70-75 mph.
@steviej3072
@steviej3072 Ай бұрын
👋👋👋👋👋👋👋
@ItsHimSlim
@ItsHimSlim Ай бұрын
I got about 44 mpg before the colder California weather kicked in getting 39.6 after 2 fill ups post reset in the computer. About 50/50 city/highway driving I found it give it some gas then coast and then feather tap the accelerator, it'll use the battery to maintain my current speed until the charge goes down to 3 bars
@anaveragehuman2937
@anaveragehuman2937 Ай бұрын
Thanks for doing these topical videos of the crown signia.
@Mike01gsr
@Mike01gsr Ай бұрын
Loving the Crown Signia content! Keep it coming!
@TheJnat
@TheJnat Ай бұрын
This man is going over 70mph while getting over 40mpg that's pretty dang good.
@urbo42
@urbo42 Ай бұрын
Thanks for doing these in-depth reviews. You can't find these to drive where I live, so while I have sat in them, I am buying them without driving. Did this with the Tesla Model 3 and found that I hated it so much after four months, I sold it at a great loss.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s Ай бұрын
It’s a wagon. And that’s a good thing.
@Robmiezer66
@Robmiezer66 11 күн бұрын
I love how you do a mpg test during a test drive with a lot car 😅
@ToyotaChrisWI
@ToyotaChrisWI Ай бұрын
Toyotas hybrid software only allows maximum charge to 80% and minimum 40% to reduce stress and promote battery life. 😊👍🏼
@mikej238
@mikej238 Ай бұрын
Nonsense. ...I hit full charge in the mountains of Alberta, Montana and AZ. It will go lower too.
@mark78750
@mark78750 Ай бұрын
Welcome back to your winter home, snowbird.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Yes but the energy monitor's eight battery bars reflect the 40-80ish usable battery
@ToyotaChrisWI
@ToyotaChrisWI Ай бұрын
@ that is correct 👍🏼 and as more miles pass, the battery will be conditioned to use even more of it’s capacity. This could be why LC’s are getting lower than average mpg out of the box during break-in.
@oman968
@oman968 Ай бұрын
Really like such a content❤
@antibureaucrat
@antibureaucrat Ай бұрын
for such short distances you drove (really. compared to using a full tank of gas-trip) small differences in fuel pumped can make a huge difference in mpg calculations
@bigbufobufo
@bigbufobufo 17 күн бұрын
This is my favorite release from Toyota right now
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius Ай бұрын
The Crown Signia is definitely a good looking car.. Now just imagine if they lowered it a little bit
@springertube
@springertube Ай бұрын
@@AbrahamArthemius You and Kirk have mentioned this, what are we, 12? 🙂 ...but seriously, IMO it's already low enough. It's not that high, really....just a modern-day, extremely mildly jacked wagon along the lines (at most) of the almost unnoticeable (most had to be told) old Golf Alltrack (RIP NA), the current Mercedes-Benz E Series wagon All-Terrain, the Audi Allroad, and the RIP Buick TourX, most of which drivers have noticed hardly any jack-up.. (and they've actually been criticized for just how little). It's just enough to negotiate today's crappy streets, and to be able to do extremely mild backroading, or to ski resorts and the "cottage" along regularly graded rural roads. That, and most (not just seniors) I bet will appreciate the slightly better step in/out.
@mostlygibberish
@mostlygibberish Ай бұрын
I got 44+, mostly highway, around 60-70 mph. No desire to accelerate or go fast when sitting in this thing, it just moves, hauling a ton, going wherever, can't care less
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
👏👏
@KarmicPatina
@KarmicPatina Ай бұрын
How does it compare to the new Prius as far as the smoothness?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Prius PHEV, smoother. Normal Prius is about the same but slightly quicker
@badkid73
@badkid73 Ай бұрын
Won’t the ECU learn your own driving habits over time to maximize efficiency? I don’t understand what a mileage trial accomplishes when it is not your long term car.
@matthewhuszarik4173
@matthewhuszarik4173 Ай бұрын
We have a 2015 Avalon Hybrid that is rated 39/40 but gets about 35 with my wife’s driving style. So if this got the same I would be more than happy.
@MrJOHN082850
@MrJOHN082850 Ай бұрын
on my hybrid each drive yields dif-mpg...what the car shows on the dash is what i gotten from that tank full so far
@SuperClayJones
@SuperClayJones Ай бұрын
Wagons are great!!
@james32371
@james32371 Ай бұрын
Hey Kirk how are the headlights?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
I'll have to test them with the next press signia
@rickelliott3277
@rickelliott3277 Ай бұрын
Any idea if there is a waiting period like the Corolla Cross Hybrid?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
There's a waiting period for most Toyota hybrids
@tonelocrian
@tonelocrian 25 күн бұрын
Wby on earth would you want it lower to the ground ? Would like to see the MPGs fully loaded with passengers & luggage
@laureus31
@laureus31 14 күн бұрын
I'm interested in the plug-in version of this😂
@mikej238
@mikej238 Ай бұрын
Im at 44 mpg after 17000 miles in my 23 Rav 4 Hybrid Ltd. 80% highway/freeway
@bLuDrGn2011
@bLuDrGn2011 Ай бұрын
Not surprised, it's a heavier car than a Venza, I can easily get 40-42 MPG in the northeast.
@timvibes
@timvibes Ай бұрын
How would you compare this to the '25 Camry for day to day driving?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
I prefer the Camry and it costs way less but the signia is beautiful
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
And signia is more comfortable
@Zeracho
@Zeracho Ай бұрын
4200 lbs....wow didn't expect that.
@coreylucas5997
@coreylucas5997 14 күн бұрын
This is Lexus like interior not a bad thing, the design is nice looks roomy, do I have 40+ grand for one NO , but my heart is still for the old skool 4 runner with the bad fuel economy but bullet proof V6 😮 I’m a find lightly used with deals pushing under 40 grand for 4 runner, I hate the new turbo 4 ones
@LeoTheShortGuy
@LeoTheShortGuy Ай бұрын
Awesome
@abep.3110
@abep.3110 Ай бұрын
So it feels slower than the Nx?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Not really. You hear the engine a lot more compared to the NX so I can hear the engine working hard
@c7406-q8c
@c7406-q8c Ай бұрын
If they used Venza battery which is more efficient and light weight, it will give more mpg but price will go up even more. Do you remember brick phone in 90th? signia used old brick phone battery tech NiMH instead of Venza Lithium-ion battery which is same modern battery tech used on iPhone.
@MW-bi1pi
@MW-bi1pi Ай бұрын
Lithium batteries go into thermal runaway...Rarely, but they do. They can burn your house down.
@urbo42
@urbo42 Ай бұрын
Kind of disappointed the battery doesn't carry the car at hwy speed. I have a Prius Prime (well into the 13 month of waiting) on order and since I ordered, they have dropped the Prime designation and I am almost about to give up and go straight hybrid with something like the Signia. My 2024 Maverick Hybrid will run on the battery on the hwy from time to time which surprised me. Kind of assumed the Signia would do the same.
@chrissetina1107
@chrissetina1107 Ай бұрын
I really want to like the Crown Signia because I really want a midsize hybrid wagon. But there's just something about it that comes off wrong, including the terrible color selection. I kinda wish it were just a Camry AWD hybrid wagon.
@letsgo4834
@letsgo4834 Ай бұрын
I don’t have any negative feelings toward this Crown Signia, but I 100% agree: I *crave* Camry and Accord wagon hybrids.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
Bringing a wagon to the American market is a big, bold experiment by Toyota. If the Signia sells in decent numbers, Toyota might consider bringing some of the other wagons it has in production. I know there are 3 different Corolla wagons being built today as well as a car called the ProBox which is reminiscent of the Scion xB. At least 3 of those wagons are Hybrids and one (Japanese Corolla Touring) is sold in a Hybrid AWD trim. I don't think there is a Camry wagon currently in production but I agree, an AWD Camry Hybrid wagon would be excellent.
@chrissetina1107
@chrissetina1107 Ай бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151 You hit the nail on the head. Its a bold move and one that I wish more companies would make. I'm sick of SUVs. But I don't think Toyota has gotten enough of the mix quite right in the Crown Signia to make it a compelling product... even for a wagon fan like me. What the Crown sedan and Signia got right is the move to a higher roofline, when other sedans are pushing seating and rooflines lower - requiring them to be much longer to have any functional room. But then headroom is tight. Accord, I'm looking at you. But the interiors and exteriors of these Crowns just aren't great, when they really needed to be great in order to sell these niche products at these prices.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Ай бұрын
@@chrissetina1107 At 6'2" with a very long torso, I admit to being a little obsessed with headroom in this age of ludicrously impractical, 'swoopy' sedans. You may be surprised to learn the Crown sedan has a much higher seat height than a Camry but actually offers less headroom. Although far more practical than the Crown sedan, the Signia is still somewhat lacking in front headroom as Kirk reported. I don't know what constitutes a 'great' exterior or interior but Kirk had an Outback on this channel a week or two ago that costs as much as this Signia XLE. Redline Reviews recently featured a high trim RAV4 Hybrid which cost more. It would not be too difficult to find CX-50s, CR-V's etc that come within a thousand dollars of Signia XLE. I did a little research recently and found today's Signia is priced in line with top trims of the original (2009-2016) Venza. Adjusting for inflation, it may actually be cheaper than Toyota's last raised wagon while providing far more features. The fit and finish of today's Signia and the fuel efficiency are certainly streets ahead of that Venza.
@alsheremeta
@alsheremeta 24 күн бұрын
If Toyota made a Camry wagon, they couldn't charge 20k more like they do for the Signia..
@ilikenoodles5018
@ilikenoodles5018 Ай бұрын
Can you please test the real life world mpg on 2024 sonata hybrid? 🙏🏼
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
If it ever comes in the press fleet!
@ludovicdjomo8909
@ludovicdjomo8909 Ай бұрын
Hi Kirk. Is the air condition in the Crown as efficient as in the new Camry? Because when you reviewed the new Camry, you said the AC was very good. Thanks.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
Yes. AC here is great
@ludovicdjomo8909
@ludovicdjomo8909 Ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels thanks
@joey86bu1
@joey86bu1 20 күн бұрын
14:05 it's still pulling hard cause it's a CVT.
@codincoman9019
@codincoman9019 Ай бұрын
Bringing the premium Crown line to the USA was a very smart move, filling the gap between the upper mass-market Toyota and the entry luxury Lexus, the only real competitor being the better handling and nicer designed premium Mazda.
@springertube
@springertube Ай бұрын
I love the form factor, they need to work on a number of details that Kirk and a lot of people have already mentioned. Since the focus is just on the powertrain on this one, let's start with that!
@jeffshapiro5990
@jeffshapiro5990 Ай бұрын
Kirk, thanks for all your work. Your videos are really helpful in the car buying process. What's your impression of visibility out of the rear of the vehicle? I sat in a Signia for a few minutes not long ago and it seemed like the rear window was tiny and a million miles away compared to a RAV4. Maybe I'm being unfair because I haven't been in a more station wagon-like vehicle in a while.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
I had no issues with viz
@TripleBerg
@TripleBerg Ай бұрын
I found that my Avalon hybrid got better mpg after driving it a few years. I’m thinking the Signia would get better mpg after 10K miles.
@ohcanadaeh
@ohcanadaeh Ай бұрын
After all the Insignia reviews you have done, I would like to know : 1) Do you think the Insignia will have the same buyers as the Venza ? , 2) Is there a significant difference in terms of luxuries features and driving between the Insignia and Venza ?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
It could entice Venza owners. Outback owners too. Luxury is close between the two. Interior design is better on the crown imo.
@velprox1
@velprox1 14 күн бұрын
It is absolutely a wagon
@sop2510
@sop2510 Ай бұрын
It’s a Venza! 😂
@johnvs66
@johnvs66 Ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t they have put the 5th gen system in the Signia?
@lionintu
@lionintu Ай бұрын
It was designed around the 4th gen
@lionintu
@lionintu Ай бұрын
The 5th gen was not yet as the crown signal was being designed
@VOLVO2LUV
@VOLVO2LUV Ай бұрын
HEY
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik Ай бұрын
YO
@steviej3072
@steviej3072 Ай бұрын
SUP
@ralphw1804
@ralphw1804 Ай бұрын
Every car I owned the computer showed better mileage than actual (I.e. compared with using the trip odometer and the gas pump reading). Oh... and using a different pump should not make any difference (unless the gas station owner is a crook) as pumps are to be calibrated regularly and are inspected (or should be).
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
It's not that the pumps aren't putting the exact gas in, it's that a different pump will click off at different fuel levels
@MW-bi1pi
@MW-bi1pi Ай бұрын
I get over 38 mpg on my Signia. Real world driving and I drive the piss out of it, hard.
@frankchong5585
@frankchong5585 Ай бұрын
35mpg on city? considered damn good. Anytime i'll trade my 17 Outback for this
@garygarski
@garygarski Ай бұрын
I'm very suspicious of the gas pumps not being accurate. My 2007 Prius fuel tank had a bladder that making actual fuel use calculations very variable. Do you know if Toyota has a bladder in the crown signia? The bladder in my Prius was very temperature sensitive.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels Ай бұрын
I don't know if there is a bladder in the crown
@JBits-m9p
@JBits-m9p Ай бұрын
This car is too heavy
@agpawpaw5912
@agpawpaw5912 Ай бұрын
4th gen Prius Lithium battery let it discharge to 1 bar. 3rd gen Prius with NiMH battery, same as Signia, discharge only to 2 bars
@MrMightyZ
@MrMightyZ Ай бұрын
I’m old and as much as I respect Toyotas and as mellow as I get and in whatever ways I manage to mature, cars should come with a V8 roar and go sideways when you floor them because they’re RWD.
@steviej3072
@steviej3072 Ай бұрын
Sadly those days are gone my friend🥃
@funlovingJohn
@funlovingJohn Ай бұрын
The compact Crown replaced the full size Avalon at at about 30% more cost. My Avalon always gets a little over 50 MPG The Avalon was designed and built in America. The Crown is inported putting a lot of workers out of a job. You can buy a full size Lexus hybrid for a lot less money than the compact Crown
@TheBMurda
@TheBMurda Ай бұрын
It’s midsize, 194 inches long.
@funlovingJohn
@funlovingJohn Ай бұрын
@@TheBMurda The Avalon was advertized as a full size sedan
@TheBMurda
@TheBMurda Ай бұрын
@@funlovingJohn The Crown is midsized at 194 inches. It weighs more than 200lbs more than a Lexus NX and is almost a full foot longer.
@tinhinnh
@tinhinnh Ай бұрын
the venza was “compact”, the signia is Signiaficantly bigger
@letsgo4834
@letsgo4834 Ай бұрын
The Crown put nobody out of a job. Don’t be a child.
@cpftank09
@cpftank09 Ай бұрын
I like how we’re all just like, ehh it ONLY got 38mpg for a 4200lb luxury vehicle. Lol When fueling up, run the pump on the slowest detent and don’t click it afterwards. When filling up at the fastest rate, it tends to miscalculate a bit. There have been studies on this and it’s usually in the gas stations best interest. The clicking after it clicks will usually just put additional fuel into the charcoal canister as well which can lead to emissions related check engine lights.
@4Lights.5Liights
@4Lights.5Liights Ай бұрын
Car's computer mpg is always showing higher than actual. It's a spoof.
@dhanipersaud6227
@dhanipersaud6227 Ай бұрын
Wagon? It's 10 inches taller than a Volvo V60 or 6 inches taller than the lifted V60 cross country. I guess if you're one of those people that still believes the Subaru Outback is still a wagon.
@wny9521
@wny9521 Ай бұрын
A Camry LE is a great car and gets 53 MPG plus every day for 2025. UNDER 30K all day baby! PEOPLE this Crown weights more than 800 POUNDS more than the new Camry. That's nutyz!
@lionintu
@lionintu Ай бұрын
Your comparing two different types of vehicles
@lionintu
@lionintu Ай бұрын
Camry will sell tons more than the Signia
@wny9521
@wny9521 Ай бұрын
@@lionintu they both have 4 wheels and get you to work and back safely. Same engine too. Maybe the ride height is a plus in crown and I'd agree on that
@lionintu
@lionintu Ай бұрын
@@wny9521 btw camry is a gen 4.5 engine. Signia is gen 4.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s Ай бұрын
@@wny9521I think you just like to argue. If you want a LONG list of differences between the Camry LE and the Signia you could easily research it.
@Lucas-wp2ph
@Lucas-wp2ph Ай бұрын
The Crown hybrid had exactly the same instrument cluster in 2007. It was also faster better looking with almost the same fuel economy.😮 This company died together with Eiji Toyoda, if he would see what kind of POS they are producing now with zero innovation he would turn in his grave. This is the same powertrain as the Prius in 1997....
@rkgsd
@rkgsd Ай бұрын
A beautiful cat ruined by mediocre power and no other engine options.
@jamesd7066
@jamesd7066 Ай бұрын
Maverick is a better buy than this thing by a long shot for most people. Toyota will probably kill it and blame the wagon shape.
@abep.3110
@abep.3110 Ай бұрын
Different segment and usage lol
@byhsu6140
@byhsu6140 Ай бұрын
Maverick is a pick up truck. This is a wagon/crossover. Different body styles.
@jamesd7066
@jamesd7066 Ай бұрын
@@abep.3110 not different usage. Most cars carry one person most of the time. It has four seats, so the maverick. This is a vanity vehicle without the Lexus badge. Hyundai could sell this to their Genesis buyers. That's the market this attracts. I love the wagon shape, but the last good one in the US was Golf which got better mileage without being a hybrid in 2018. This is a swing and a miss by Toyota.
@abep.3110
@abep.3110 Ай бұрын
@ lol it has 4 seats😂
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s Ай бұрын
@@jamesd7066Comparing this to a Ford Maverick? Nice troll…
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