Kizaru VS EVERY Vice Captain

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SB the Sage

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@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
People on here coping about the kat section being short without realizing Kizaru fought Luffy after like 4 powerups from his fight with kat 😭😭
@KizaruGlazers
@KizaruGlazers Ай бұрын
Brother... Kizaru halted his movement and actions when he heard FUCKING APOO on sabaody... If Beckmanns begging of kizaru is somehow a feat, then i guess apoo is now relative to beckmann
@AK81361
@AK81361 Ай бұрын
Crazy agenda with Rayleigh. "No fruit abilities or a special sword"...said about the PKs right-hand man and user of 3 advanced haki's.
@Johnnyloveschicken
@Johnnyloveschicken Ай бұрын
Cuz he trained it?
@lxfj2128
@lxfj2128 Ай бұрын
If kizaru was trying so much against old Rayleigh then why didn't he use any of his moves against Rayleigh that he dud against g5 Luffy. Rayleigh stalled for 3 mins and is so wanked for it
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
@@lxfj2128 by that same logic if he could have just no diffed Rayleigh whenever he wanted then why didn’t he oh wait cause he couldn’t. Literally says he’d need a plan to take Rayleigh in
@Prfctdtlz
@Prfctdtlz Ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 you can’t be serious
@bromous1446
@bromous1446 Ай бұрын
Honestly, highest dif kizaru goes is mid dif. Name a single fighter who would still be in the fight after an accelerated kick that knocked the second fastest form of luffy that can fly off of Egghead instantly, through a barrier.
@joe-k1t
@joe-k1t Ай бұрын
It's probably lower. But Marco should be able to stall for a good bit of time.
@bromous1446
@bromous1446 Ай бұрын
@@joe-k1t I just don’t agree. If luffy couldn’t recover from the accelerated kick without going G5, I doubt Marco would be able to do the same. The kick would send him off the island they’re fighting on and into the ocean. He’d succumb to drowning cuz DF. Victory by BFR.
@joe-k1t
@joe-k1t Ай бұрын
@@bromous1446 Makes sense. I am a huge Marco fan though so makes sense why I have more confidence in him than the other commanders....but Rayleigh prime should be mid diff or a bit above.
@Hatemalalmaei
@Hatemalalmaei Ай бұрын
Damn Kizaru glazing is wild in the comments someone even said he would beat them all at once lol In all seriousness though, I agree with your analysis for the most part, I just think Beckman should show more feats to be put above Kizaru, but he is close to his level nevertheless I may even put old Rayleigh above him now that he basically regained some of his stamina? swimming to Amzon island, training Luffy and using all 3 types of haki, and also don't forget that CoC wasn't that big of a deal pre-ts so Rayleigh wasn't able to use it canonically
@KizaruGlazers
@KizaruGlazers Ай бұрын
Yonkotard agenda... Gear 4 luffy was extremely relative to hybrid kaido Kizaru dispatched a stronger version of this luffy with A SINGLE ATTACK If kizaru was going all out against rayleigh here, then presumably rayleigh one shots kaido comfortably?
@Prfctdtlz
@Prfctdtlz Ай бұрын
It was just confirmed kizaru gave luffy food, kizaru destroys ray
@GIVEPROOFKID
@GIVEPROOFKID Ай бұрын
Luffy wasn’t using adv haki so no it wasn’t the gear 4 that kept up with kaido and kaido straight up low-mid diffed that gear 4 Bud had to pop out gear 5 and use both acoc and acoa at the same time yet was a extreme diff fight 💀
@GIVEPROOFKID
@GIVEPROOFKID Ай бұрын
@@Prfctdtlz”someone who can be invisible to the naked eye” that applies to sanji too At no point have we seen kizaru invisible and any top tier moves ftl 💀 sanji is mftl via being MUCH faster then pre timeskip zoro who could dodge a light speed Kuma attack with ease while almost dead himself So Food Invisible Has a really good observation haki Ya sounds like sanji
@millasboo
@millasboo Ай бұрын
11:40 He almost died doing that and it required all his strength and stamina & did it by accident & also wasn’t a massive scar
@patescortez88
@patescortez88 Ай бұрын
Is kizaru a joke to you. He smokes all these guys
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
I said he beats everyone and arguably high diffs the 2 that I think can beat him ?
@patescortez88
@patescortez88 Ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 I'm just leaving a comment
@patescortez88
@patescortez88 Ай бұрын
I was just leaving a comment. Thought that it would be funny to write
@jikey173
@jikey173 Ай бұрын
Kizaru destroys all of them tbh
@animexgalaxy
@animexgalaxy Ай бұрын
Prime ray low mid diffs Also if kizaru can't figer out king's weakness he is cooked
@jtdevera1189
@jtdevera1189 Ай бұрын
@@animexgalaxy why wouldn't he be able to figure that out? he's certainly also quick enough to capitalize on it as well.
@animexgalaxy
@animexgalaxy Ай бұрын
@@jtdevera1189 Even zoro who have insane battle iq took a whole while to figer it out also king was holding back 40% of the fight
@Travis-r3l
@Travis-r3l Ай бұрын
@@animexgalaxyking can be hurt with flame on
@GIVEPROOFKID
@GIVEPROOFKID Ай бұрын
First off let’s get some straight there are no title levels such as admiral level yonko level yc level there’s none of that because they are heavily inconsistent for example kuzan a yc2-yc3 for bb and shiryu is yc1 does that mean shiryu>kuzan or katakuri>kuzan no buggy is a yonko so does that mean buggy>zoro sanji kuzan no ok now that we got that out of the way let’s start scaling zoro and a bit of sanji to boost him up Admirals are relative to commanders due to the Marco statement in marineford databook that said he could fight on the same footing as the admirals making it a mid-high diff atleast many commanders such as sanji king and zoro scale much above Marco putting them on the same level as the admirals that’s just with Marco statements Zoro could blitz a big mom who was on Zeus and using haki and evade her with ease while Marco couldn’t blitz or dodge a big mom that wasn’t on Zeus not using haki meaning zoro alr blizts Marco who shown by bb without his Df is legit useless Zoro can cut fire which is essentially Marco’s Df immediately taking away 90% of Marco’s speed ap dc defense regen overall zoro>marco low diff in BASE due to him being able to dodge and blitz a a big mom who is a faster version of a big mom that could capture Marco and zoro can cut fire meaning he could cut Marco attack and speed blitz him That alone alr puts zoro above the admirals but im not done “Zoro is lucci rival “ First having long fights with someone doesn’t make you a rival to the person I could fight prime Mike Tyson for an 1 hour and after he decides to get serious and knocks me out with a single punch that wasn’t even one of his strongest punch he throws that’s the basic comparison between lucci and zoro and that would upscale lucci not downscale zoro He did equally was bad as kizaru 1 managed to hit luffy once by summoning many clones yet got 1 tapped another got 5 tapped People forget luffy was on the brink of passing out against lucci but say it’s a neg-no diff but for kizaru it was a extreme diff or a tie which makes no sense Luffy was exhausted cuz of his Df not kizaru The gear 4 that fought kizaru from what we know of wasn’t using any adv haki meaning that gear 4 is a kaku rival they had to jump a seraphim same gear 4 that got blizted and 1 tapped by base basic haki kaido who zoro could blitz and damage with acoa pre mastering Enma Kaido>admirals by a large margin Akainu got blizted by crocodile and couldn’t even hit him nor sense an angry 22 feet tall behemoth rushing towards and you wanna tell me the bum has future sight what happened in marineford is called Akainu has better armament than vista and Marco meaning. They can’t hit him as he has better haki he didn’t use adv armament never confirmed to be and the thing he used in marineford was the same thing sentomaru snake sisters and whole amazon lily used Crocodile got perception blizted by fatigued luffy in that same arc and against zoro is faster than post wci gear 4 due to blizting kaido meaning he would blizted that luffy who blizted crocodile who blizted Akainu also Akainu was getting stopped by Marco (who’s slower than zoro) and jimbei(who’s slower than zoro) constantly and most of them could evade akainu meaning Akainu ain’t touching or dodging zoro “SHANKS 1 TAPPED KIDD SO HE DOES THE SAME TO ZORO” For one he sneaked him who didn’t even have haki on he sliced his rail gun which blew up in his face For 2 zoro negs Kidd Zoro is stronger than shanks Dragon blaze is a physical attack just a strong slash and it cut the horns of onigashima be overpowered kaido in Ashura Kaido strength>primebeards strength according to ace novel Zoro gets strength Zoro is faster Shanks blizts kizaru who is slow as hell jit barely notice Marco knocking him down lol and blizts Kidd who barely has observation haki while zoro blizts kaido a future sight user big mom and king which is a better feat Zoro gets combat speed attack speed movement speed For reaction speed there’s no feats nor statements for shanks future sight isn’t reaction speed btw Zoro has a better reaction speed Armament haki Zoro has adv as ryuo is adv arm and the guy who gave Zoro Enma said Enma takes the users RYUO as it pleases so every time we saw it taking haki from Zoro it was ryuo Shanks hasn’t shown adv armament only adv observation and adv conqueres Zoro gets armament Endurance and durability we don’t even need to talk about this Zoro gets durability endurance Attack power Zoro 3 tap king with barely any haki left meaning current Zoro won’t waste acoa on king and just use acoc to 1 tap him Flames off king is more durable than kaido cuz Zoro could damage kaido with acoa but not king King>Kaidos durability>big mom>>>>kidd Zoro gets attack power Destruction capabilities Zoro gets it due to slicing the horn of onigashima slicing ships in half without using named attacks or haki someone shanks can’t do as far as we have seen Obs conq Shanks gets it due to feats and statements Now that we got that zoro got most of the things yet people try to act as if shanks blizts and taps him no diff We have used feats for the first part now we use narrative and potrayal and that is one piece ending soon in atleast 4-6 arcs zoro has to be strong enough on fight Mihawk between those arcs Mihawk should currently high diff zoro narratively cuz all zoro needs currently is future sight to match mihawks insane observation haki Zoro scales above big mom due to speed and big mom scales above shanks due to wano statement calling big mom and kaido the strongest yonko but we all know stronger and winning is different Shanks wins against big mom extreme diff Potrayal wise shanks is potrayed to still be the second strongest swordman after Mihawk So with feats zoro high diffs with narrative Zoro gets extreme diff with potrayal Zoro gets high diff now we use statements some databooks say shanks is powerful enough to fight the admirals and so is Marco in the same databooks Zoro scaling above Marco just like shanks just a bit farther than shanks due to him being able to cut fire and Marco whole thing is being fire Ok so both shanks and Zoro scale above Marco who’s scales near the admrials Conclusion shanks extreme diffs zoro which makes Mihawk high diff him which makes kaido mid diff him which would make sense due to Koh zoro>Ashura zoro who could clash with adv conq hybrid kaido Lucci Was stated that his df awakening gave him more savage meaning. He wasn’t thinking straight Didn’t use any named attacks against Luffy Took 4 named attacks Got up wayyy before Luffy and blizted 100% sentomaru =he was mentally nerfed and holding back and got low diffed at best Kizaru Has no reasons to be mentally nerfed against luffy Him holding back would only make Luffy stall him longer Couldn’t blizted injured sentomaru Got 1 shotted Twice =wasn’t mentally nerfed or holding back and got neg diff Zoro>Lucci>kizaru Zoro vs law and kid(2v1) For people who think zoro would lose easily cuz big mom lost then you should know zoro blizted big mom many times during rooftop he has movement speed reaction speed combat speed attack speed far above big mom has greater ap pre acoc Btw Koh zoro>Ashura zoro during rooftop who was clashing with hybrid kaido with 30 bones broken Kings durability far surpasses big mom flames off which is his least durable state due to big moms durability being inferior to kaido who zoro with acoa could damage kaido but not flames off king putting flames off kings durability above kaido zoro acoc which he could use any time now 3 tapped king meaning he could do serious damage to kaido meaning he could to extreme damage to big mom and he can blitz her even harder due to the fact acoc made him faster Zoro>big mom that fought kaido for 3 days>big meme that fought kid and law Basically the fight starts and zoro blizts and 1 taps useless midd than does the same to law he ain’t big mom he is much faster with much more ap Basically Koh zoro overall>base kaido~=big mom>big meme>kidd and law Remember they had to use kaidos bombs and couldn’t even knock her out CONCLUSION Zoro= or loses to shanks extreme diff making him lose high-extreme to Mihawk making him get mid diff by kaido and mid-High diff by luffy which makes sense as we are in the final arc we can’t have Zoro getting neg diff by Mihawk or shanks when there’s probably 3-4 arcs left Confirmed elbaf confirmed final war and probably 2 others so Luffy finds one piece Zoro beats Mihawk and for those saying luffy/kaido isn’t stronger than shanks one piece magazine vol 14 confirms kaido is the strongest in history that puts him above Mihawk and above shanks
@gman8477
@gman8477 Ай бұрын
The katakuri fandom roasts was epic 😂❤
@peroboshoff1774
@peroboshoff1774 Ай бұрын
The fact that Zoro had like 40 broken bones and was very very weakened when he blitzed kaido
@joe-k1t
@joe-k1t Ай бұрын
This is a massacre. Kizaru murders all of them at the ssme time.
@coolguyj7934
@coolguyj7934 Ай бұрын
Shiryu and Kat downplay is wild here. Shiryu is an ex warden of impel down, who Magellen served and we have seen what magellen can do, not to mention its more than 2 years later atp and he got a df now. Kat is gently tucking ulti and page one together for that matter into the dirt. Ion know where this ulti hype came from but let's keep it realistic
@erosensei-hy9ml
@erosensei-hy9ml Ай бұрын
Kat isn't doing anything
@coolguyj7934
@coolguyj7934 Ай бұрын
@@erosensei-hy9ml you right, the win is that free for him
@quandaviousgooch4726
@quandaviousgooch4726 Ай бұрын
​@@coolguyj7934How that mochi tip taste? You acting like future sight alone carries somebody to yonko level 😂
@coolguyj7934
@coolguyj7934 Ай бұрын
@quandaviousgooch4726 bruh you the one bringing up yonko 🤣 what kinda reading comprehension you lacking that makes you think "down play is crazy" = yonko 🤣.
@quandaviousgooch4726
@quandaviousgooch4726 Ай бұрын
@@coolguyj7934 savouring the flavor of that mochi pipe 🤌🏽
@Prfctdtlz
@Prfctdtlz Ай бұрын
Rayleigh wanker, kizaru out stats prime and old ray in everything
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
Based on what ?
@Prfctdtlz
@Prfctdtlz Ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 🤦‍♂️ based on kizaru feats, based on ray have zero feats, what type of question is that
@xxlspat3146
@xxlspat3146 Ай бұрын
Bruh, aint no way you accually believe Zoro is anywhere near Luffy's level of power💀
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
Yeah without his bajrang gun I do there’s more to fighting then raw AP
@xxlspat3146
@xxlspat3146 Ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 Luffy is superior to Zoro in every category there is to fighting
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
@@xxlspat3146 why does he have better AP than Luffy without his bajrang gun he did permeant damage to the same enemy’s as G5 Luffy. Maybe if you wanna say ACOC G5 has better AP you’d have a case but even then we don’t know
@xxlspat3146
@xxlspat3146 Ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 no Zoro didn't. Kaido held back a HUGE amount here He got damaged by ryou Luffy in his full dragon and his hybrid 1 form (same forms he used against gear 5 acoc Luffy). Kaido just always holds back enough against a character, that they can have a fight. And he does that in all stats
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
@@xxlspat3146 you can hold back durability wtf are you talking about
@ReyReyzzz
@ReyReyzzz Ай бұрын
So basically, Kizaru smokes tf out all of them except Rayleigh. A lot of people assume whoever has higher AP automatically wins and don’t weigh other stats as seriously, which is just a stupid logic to have in a world as wonky and unpredictable as one piece.
@nikjovan4816
@nikjovan4816 Ай бұрын
Can you explain to me how Ulti has a chance against Katakuri? The Katakuri power creep argument is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Ulti rushes Katakuri he easily dodges that shit with future sight because he is fast enough to fight on par with WCI Snakeman Luffy who is definitely faster than Ulti. He then ties her up with Mochi and suffocates her or traps her and starts wailing on her with attacks until she gets knocked out. The end. I have never seen power scaling be as bad with the Katakuri vs Ulti debate. No context is used whatsoever with any of the points brought up in that argument. The most surface level scaling possible.
@ashlol1839
@ashlol1839 Ай бұрын
Real BASE Luffy blitzed her hybrid form lol Sure he’s stronger than the base Luffy Kat fought, but Kat should be faster than Ulti by far And Luffy oneshot Page one without ryuo and with g3 Comparison: raidsuit Sanji with all his amps couldn’t even put him down lol Ulti then grabbed him while he was focused on page one(not a feat) and Luffy saying he needed g4 wasn’t a feat THEY LITERALLY SHAT THEIR PANTS WHEN THEY SENSED HIS HAKI And I could explain why needing g4 doesn’t mean anything but y’all should know
@nikjovan4816
@nikjovan4816 Ай бұрын
@@ashlol1839 Spit dude, you are right. I am so tired of this argument. Scaling like it's DBZ. The reason he wanted to use G4 is because he was caught in Zoan form Ulti's grip and wanted to avoid as much damage as possible before he got to Kaido on the rooftop. The quickest way for that was going G4 to break out. It doesn't matter if you are the stronger fighter when you are caught in a grapple. It is still tough to break out of a hold. And Ulti isn't physically weak. She is an Ancient Zoan. And like you said base Luffy literally blitzed her immediately after.
@ashlol1839
@ashlol1839 Ай бұрын
@@nikjovan4816 ikr He also uses g4 when he’s in a bind Like with the strings in Dressrosa
@THUKUNA.........C
@THUKUNA.........C Ай бұрын
Base wano luffy one taps katakuti​@@ashlol1839
@erosensei-hy9ml
@erosensei-hy9ml Ай бұрын
Kizaru one shotted g4 snakeman who is far stronger than wci snakeman
@ClarkeMichaelDuncan
@ClarkeMichaelDuncan Ай бұрын
I wonder if kizarus lasers would pass through shiryu when he’s is invisible
@davidpastrana54
@davidpastrana54 Ай бұрын
Defeating zoro extreme diff 😂😂 zoro fanboy!! Zoro ain’t there yet almost equal with gear 5 luffy is crazy ☠️☠️☠️
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
In terms of AP without his bajrang yes zoro is equal or greater than Luffy
@ashlol1839
@ashlol1839 Ай бұрын
Kizaru was fighting a snakeman without acoc or fs It’s not an antifeat to Kaido as Luffy could split the sky with his coc🤣 Oh and KIZARU GLAZED LUFFY’S AP And he even reacted to Kizaru’s faster than light kick with no observation, complaining about the barrier damage more than it And Asura is never near g5 Base crude acoc Luffy downed Kaido in two hits Something Asura Zoro wanted to do but couldn’t Already the sword vs fist dilemma is the perfect counter to this And vs Lucci Zoro was using koh and was wheezing like water Plus with help from duraneg couldn’t knock Lucci out But Luffy without adv haki pieced that cat to stating he lost consciousness Never downscale to upscale And Luffy was able to push this Kaido to go all out for the first time in years
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
@@ashlol1839 holy hell this barley readable Just because Luffy knocked kaido down means nothing knocking someone down does not equal AP Moreover Zoro wheezing during his fight with Lucci also means absolutely nothing he still blitzed and one shot lucci when using ACOC and did more damage than gear 5 Luffy did with Armament Haki
@ashlol1839
@ashlol1839 Ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 but still Lucci acknowledged Luffy’s ap by stating what kind of power is this in the anime and for the manga I’m not sure but he said he was losing consciousness For Zoro’s own it didn’t knock him out of hybrid form, and with help from duraneg he was still conscious The argument that Lucci was up quickly doesn’t make sense, he was medically treated lol
@erosensei-hy9ml
@erosensei-hy9ml Ай бұрын
Just say liffy couldn't do shi agaonst kizaeu in snakeman
@ashlol1839
@ashlol1839 Ай бұрын
@@erosensei-hy9ml no Kizaru glazed his ap lol He also reacted to his faster than light kick and said the barrier did more damage He literally said he almost died
@Emar-Rion
@Emar-Rion Ай бұрын
@@ashlol1839Kizaru literally was t even focused on luffy most of the fight
@1Gymfreak1
@1Gymfreak1 Ай бұрын
Some people really think kizaru can beat mihawk. The guy who would always fight with the emperor shanks in equal footing and we know shanks made kizaru his lil scared b**tch during the red film movie…
@peroboshoff1774
@peroboshoff1774 Ай бұрын
Two sword still zoro was easily keeping up with Lucci
@joeygamingnl2724
@joeygamingnl2724 Ай бұрын
I do feel like for Rayleigh, Kizaru was winning in Sabaody bc of the stamina and it was perfectly even before Rayleigh got tired, Prime Rayleigh would have better stamina and physical strength but the difference shouldn’t be as big as Garp as Rayleigh regularly works out like swimming in the calm belt while Garp is a lazy bum who eats snacks all the time but Kizaru would also be stronger now than he was in the pre time skip like literally every other character so it’s still up in the air but close nonetheless, Kizaru blitzed Sanji who’s faster than Zoro so Kizaru Blitzes Zoro, can tank Luffy’s attacks without armament haki so Zoro isn’t doing shit yet Kizaru can easily injure Luffy with smaller and weaker attacks than his top attacks shown in the series so he can definitely damage Zoro (as if that wasn’t obvious) so Kizaru just blitzes him repeatedly and eventually kills him, maybe even in one shot if Zoro doesn’t protect himself with armament since Kizaru definitely hits harder than King and Zoro said he’d die if he didn’t use armament against him, Beckman really needs feats cuz his best actual feat is taking a during time skip Kidd’s arm off, Beckman has potential due to how strong he should be eventually and cuz his interactions with Kizaru however I also have some proof as to why Kizaru is possibly relative to or even stronger than Shanks at which point Kizaru beats Beckman with ease since he’d be stronger than his captain
@DrakoNotDraco
@DrakoNotDraco Ай бұрын
King negs
@quandaviousgooch4726
@quandaviousgooch4726 Ай бұрын
That bum is not touching Wizaru 😂
@_yrb3539
@_yrb3539 Ай бұрын
Imo you got the Rayleigh section completely wrong firstly you used the sentomaru statement completely out of context sentomaru was only referring to one instance where Kizaru was trying to run and Rayleigh cut his cheek that’s it secondly Kizaru is in not in the position where he feels he’s he’s in urgent need to get past him the strawhats are literally getting fodderized by sentomaru and the pacifista and the only reason why they were able to escape was because of kuma who he didn’t know was going to do that and we know he noticed this by him saying my men are strong while fighting Rayleigh who is the one who states himself that he wants to do more and is the only one huffing and puffing and sweating meanwhile kizaru tone is calm the whole time which sandman a P translated himself which leads into my other point that he was massively holding back and clearly not exerting himself at all which is shown by him casually sparring with a swordsman using a sword and I know this is a named attack but that doesn’t mean he’s going all out especially when he can create clones that all have light swords that can be useful to overwhelm Rayleigh on top of that you have him having eye beams at his disposal that he could use while clashing with as well as using his main thing speed is power his acceleration that he used on snake man and there’s nothing stopping him from using it in many different ways and even if he took out his frustration on 500 even though we saw the contrary during the fight that still wouldn’t mean that it was because he “couldn’t get past Rayleigh) it most likely was because of the unexpected interference from kuma and keep in mind Rayleigh is implied to maintain strength in old age in sbs vol 82 aswell as data book which is not directly contradicted by the by first these all being knowledge claims and played off as comedic scenes aswell as the fact that is would still be consistent with him saying that his year is caught up to him, he could very well be referring to his stamina and due to old age so his strength would drop faster over the course of the fight plus he’s rusty but Kizaru with the evidence provided is clearly holding back and not exerting himself while Rayleigh is going all out on top of the fact that luffy just caught with Rayleigh and imo kizaru scales above him would put kizaru above prime Rayleigh high diff
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
This is all unprovable drivel 😭 keep yacking on Kizaru’s meat kid there’s definitely no convincing you
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
We can debate this topic on discord if you’d like tho
@Maximus0051
@Maximus0051 Ай бұрын
Prime Ray Sabo Zoro eos will be problematic
@donrog5035
@donrog5035 Ай бұрын
The only reason Kizaru didn't defeat Rayleigh at Sabaondy is because he didn't need to. He came to capture the strawhat, however Rayleigh came. His job wasn't to capture Rayleigh or fight Rayleigh. I mean we saw during his confrontation with Rayleigh that when he found an opening to avoid the fight and complete his mission (capturing the strawhat) Rayleigh prevent him to do so. So saying that Rayleigh and Kizaru were equals when Kizaru wasn't going all out and Rayleigh already shown sign of fatigue, it is clear that Kizaru is above old Rayleigh. Now can prime Rayleigh defeat Kizaru ? Maybe, maybe not. I have no reason to put prime Rayleigh above Kizaru or any admirals for that matter As for Kizaru defeating Zoro with high-extreme difficulty ?? Wtf ?? Zoro isn't there yet. He cannot give a good fight to an admiral. As for Ben Beckham, there is no narrative, no portrayal, no statements or feats in the manga that support your claim that Ben Beckham is on the same level than Kizaru or any others admirals.
@kingxanime8603
@kingxanime8603 Ай бұрын
Idk why but kizaru and ben's interaction makes me feel like they are rivals and ben is slightly stronger
@kanemccarthy1979
@kanemccarthy1979 Ай бұрын
Pure headcanon
@kingxanime8603
@kingxanime8603 Ай бұрын
@@kanemccarthy1979 i did said "i feel like"🥲
@Moore321
@Moore321 Ай бұрын
In Ben beckman's viver card it says he's comparably to shanks in strength. So I put Ben over kizaru
@aquaphoenix200
@aquaphoenix200 Ай бұрын
​@@Moore321 nope it says "compared to red hairs" he is feared by elite pirates among the new world It is not related to power at all
@Moore321
@Moore321 Ай бұрын
@@aquaphoenix200 wdym it's not related in power "at all". If shanks is heard bc of his power which gives him influence, then isn't someone who is comparable to him must be strong and has almost as much influence as him?
@Fields614
@Fields614 Ай бұрын
Is it just me or I like water 💧
@thegreaterconsciousness5997
@thegreaterconsciousness5997 Ай бұрын
Wat ?
@Moore321
@Moore321 Ай бұрын
@@Fields614 nah bro I like it too👍🏻
@മലഖാ-ബ9ഘ
@മലഖാ-ബ9ഘ Ай бұрын
Bro kizaru will obliterate zoro
@kingxanime8603
@kingxanime8603 Ай бұрын
True, i don't like admiral downplayers but admirals fans aren't any better either
@gravito1573
@gravito1573 Ай бұрын
Admiral downplayers are essentially downplaying because of a Yonko perspective. But they know for fact that any admirals would win in a 1v1 match against a 2nd in command of a Yonko crew
@lucionjones8685
@lucionjones8685 Ай бұрын
Admirals were underrated but there fans overrate them as well
@kingxanime8603
@kingxanime8603 Ай бұрын
@@lucionjones8685 true
@grassence-djequavion
@grassence-djequavion Ай бұрын
Bro facts. Hate to glaze myself but I feel like I have a pretty good sense against bias with the admirals. the other day people said that Prime white beard could take down kuzan, akainu, and kizaru like Blud wtf
@kingxanime8603
@kingxanime8603 Ай бұрын
@@grassence-djequavion sangoku was the previous fleet admiral and was a rival of roger and whitebeard And akainu is present fleet admiral, he sure is on par with top tiers of this generation like shanks, mihawk and dragon
@VinMann
@VinMann Ай бұрын
Wizaru solos
@astaroth4418
@astaroth4418 Ай бұрын
Zoro diffs
@Re-Bourne
@Re-Bourne Ай бұрын
I understand that katakuri is weaker than zoro but ulti? Be fucking fr dude... I dont ever wanna hear that again you understand me?
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
My fault I was just tryna get a joke off 😭
@YayoHernandez-b1j
@YayoHernandez-b1j Ай бұрын
Do you believe a barcelino took the job? Seriously, he could be able to become Fleet Admiral instead of Akainu. also if barcelino went to wano he would have been able to take out the four emperors. I mean two of the four Emperors big mom and Kaido piercing their bodies. with the lasers right I mean with the beam on their heads They're All Dead.
@zorostoned
@zorostoned Ай бұрын
average admiral fanboys😆😆😆
@daedae2500
@daedae2500 Ай бұрын
This man hella crazy he smoking someone better then kizzaru smoking
@Travis-r3l
@Travis-r3l Ай бұрын
He wins big mom but lose to dragon boy
@zorostoned
@zorostoned Ай бұрын
@@Travis-r3l kizaru is not beating big mom.
@Travis-r3l
@Travis-r3l Ай бұрын
@@zorostoned he won’t lose to kid or law and big mom is slow as hell she won’t catch him
@eamy9960
@eamy9960 Ай бұрын
Stop saying the N word, it's disrespectful 7:44
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
@@eamy9960I can say it if I want cry ab it lil bro
@eamy9960
@eamy9960 Ай бұрын
@@sbthesage2100 don’t make me report your channel “lil bro” cut it out, you’re not black
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
@@eamy9960 I literally am wtf are you on about 💀😂 my father is black and my mother is white you’re just chatting
@anima6501
@anima6501 Ай бұрын
​@@sbthesage2100ayyt drake
@blessinganwana9854
@blessinganwana9854 Ай бұрын
@@eamy9960 why you being racist dawg
@WyattL-hu5zx
@WyattL-hu5zx Ай бұрын
Idngafu**
@peroboshoff1774
@peroboshoff1774 Ай бұрын
Old Garp (who is still an active fighter) said he was like twice as strong in his prime. So Old Reighley (who is not active and does not fight) should probably be more than twice as strong in his Prime. So Prime Reighley low diffs kizaru
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 Ай бұрын
Kizaru relative to Gear 4 Snakeman???? He blitzed him. He was more relative to Gear 5. Sabo at Sanji level??? Nah bro. Kizaru wins against all of them with not a whole lot of difficulty
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Ай бұрын
I didn’t even say they were relative but even if I did it’s still true Luffy was actively combating him in close quarters without conquers Haki. Without accelerated speed they’re relative in power and speed. And even if you do consider his accelerated speed we don’t know exactly how much damage it did to Snakeman
@anima6501
@anima6501 Ай бұрын
Stop saying the N word u doin too much
@KrishSingh-wd2yn
@KrishSingh-wd2yn Ай бұрын
the only unbiased comprehensive list would be Prime Rayleigh>Benn>Sabo>Kizaru>Marco>Katakuri>Zoro>King>Killer>Bepo
@izzybar9470
@izzybar9470 Ай бұрын
☠️
@Travis-r3l
@Travis-r3l Ай бұрын
Sabo got like no feat
@Travis-r3l
@Travis-r3l Ай бұрын
Doughnut eater is weaker than king
@GIVEPROOFKID
@GIVEPROOFKID Ай бұрын
Zoro>king>ben~kizaru~marco>killer>katakuri=sabo
@nlimits226
@nlimits226 Ай бұрын
"Unbiased" proceeds to put Benn Beckman above the characters with actual feats.
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