Crosskart Build Cost Breakdown

[@williamlanphar630]

I truly appreciate the lengths you go to to make this process as painless as possible. I know I am new and have asked a great many questions that show my ignorance to many things. You have always been patient and helpful, as have all the members of the builders group. I just wanted you to know I value that greatly.

[@KJRaycing]

Wow, thank you so much. I really tried to make the series what I would have wanted to see if I were building something I found on KZbin. I’m currently finishing up the build sheets for the two seater, need the weather to warm up a bit! Thank you again. -Kyle

[@po917k]

Thank you for all your efforts! Your videos are informative and inspiring.

[@laynebrannon9129]

Exactly the video I was looking for very informative on parts and breakdown, hope to get mine started in the next few months after I do a little more to the tj. Loving your videos, keep em coming!

[@KJRaycing]

I’m just doing the stuff i was looking for a long time ago, i have a good perspective for guys like us. Thank you.

[@jpharmon7343]

i just started my first go kart its not going to great, however its always been my dream to build a cross kart...you sir are keeping that dream alive

[@KJRaycing]

Check out the new budget build. The 459cc predator is no joke and may get you where you want to be.

[@stwhite5135]

I'm enjoying your videos purely for the entertainment value. And I love this kind of thing. It's sort of an extension of Hot Rodding.

[@KJRaycing]

Thank you! This is definitely a way to get your hands on some crazy fun stuff without breaking the bank.

[@LuisDiaz-kg1fy]

Your vids are far from boring bro. I have too many projects going on. Can’t wait to build one of these. Thanks to your vid’s I’m actually confident I can build one. Thanks, really appreciated!!!!!!

[@KJRaycing]

Just means the series will be complete by the time you get started 👍. Projects projects, the life of a creative mind, right?

[@vcovey8043]

The fact you gave the estimations at the beginning shows how much you actually love building these karts an showing others how to do so step by step along with selling plans, which I really hope you been makin some decent money as you deserve it! 👍🏼. Hopefully it's enough to pay for your builds lol

[@KJRaycing]

Well they are incredibly fun to build and the KZbin channel and plans were put out at the request of guys that saw my work and liked it. I can’t believe how much of a phenomenon this is becoming! The guys doing the work are just as awesome as their VF-1’s!

[@johnnynewell4379]

I liked the video on this topic. Not a lot of people take time for this aspect of a project. I’ve heard you say how much this build would cost , but it’s better understood the way you got it broke down I think. I’ve been looking in to those rouge fab tube benders for a future purchase. A little pricey but worth it I’m sure. Might be a while before I build my cart. I’m like you in a way on how much research I put in on something like this before I actually start. Thanks again, looking forward to the next one.

[@KJRaycing]

I love and hate the research. Who doesnt like looking at cool machines and unique creations, but at the same time trying to find a hub with a certain bolt pattern that fits your exact stub axles is impossible... thank you for the compliment.

[@GearScar]

Pretty realistic and honest break down. I was able to purchase some of my materials from welding shops that had left overs from projects and so I paid a fraction of the store cost (strongly recommend doing this). Plus one of the welding shops was making these long flat bar things for mounting something at a saw mill (not sure exactly what they were), and they messed up the plans making them too long and had to cut about 1.5 inches off each one, and so I got for free a few buckets full of 1.5 by 1.5 quarter inch thick pieces of flat bar (roughly 300 of these), and I have trimmed them down into mounting tabs, suspension mounts, and so many more even non-buggy related things. So never hurts to ask

[@KJRaycing]

Thank you. I have to be honest because i’m a terrible liar. I’m approaching this from my perspective 5-10 years ago and trying to keep that mental frame when i shoot the videos. That is a stellar score on the metal, lifetime of free tabs. I’ll have to start snooping around some mills.

[@kjbofnm]

Great video! I built one for my daughter with a harbor freight 420cc with an FNR. Runs like a beast! Goes anywhere we point it with a top speed of over 50mph on a hard pack road.

[@KJRaycing]

That is sooo awesome! Are there pictures anywhere? I would love to see it!

[@kjbofnm]

@@KJRaycing Not yet, planning on making a video collage soon.

[@KJRaycing]

Outstanding!!

[@somdood3292]

im watching the build series in order right now so no spoilers plz and i know its way to late but the only thing id fix on the exhaust is the clock position of the tip lol... also life has a tendency of taking away the things you love the most and i cried a little listening to your story as i thought of my 2 year old daughter the entire time and imagined exactly what it would feel like to lose her and how i dont want to waste a single day with her and i want to build her a power wheels one day. its was very inspiring. thank you for sharing.

[@KJRaycing]

Thank you so much. I want to get it running and tuned before I mess with the exhaust any more, but it’s in the cards to maybe shorten it or add a little piece to redirect the tip. I had a friend lose his son to cancer when she was two, had the same effect on me. I spent a lot of time with them and was never too tired for another book or another kiss goodnight.

[@johnmorgan1629]

The most important component to keep together and good is, you, that's why good controls, such as steering and brakes etc. are important. Nice breakdown by the way.

[@KJRaycing]

Thank you very much. This made me realize i forgot to put the cost of the 100 dollar 5 point harness 😡. It will be covered in the build videos...

[@tedforringer9124]

Thanks for this. I'm following several builds and this video really helped with thinking about cost and also why using ATV parts can save some time/money vs. custom fabbing the rear end.

[@tedforringer9124]

I'll probably buy several sets of plans (including yours) and go from there.

[@KJRaycing]

Yes sir. Keep in mind atv parts have their limitations, not sure what they are, but maybe not baja 1000 or hyabusa powered machines... but the chassis is very solid and can adapt many different components to match what you are after.

[@Bucky916]

Your Break Down is absolutely informative, especially for someone like my self who is going down this rabbit hole this year. I already have the powerplant for the build, 2011 ZX10R Kit, Harness, ecu, fuel pump, Gauge Cluster, Radiator, Throttle bodies, air box, everything but the frame to be honest! Literally. That is the plan for the build this year, myself and a buddy are looking to build 2 of them, one with the zx10 and another with a cbr600rr. So should be fun. I totally appreciate the break down tho gives me a good insight as to what I can look forward to spending.

[@KJRaycing]

That’s awesome! Prices have gone up a bit but the video still seems relevant as far as a breakdown and building in stages so you can pace your budget. That’s how I build them so it’s not trying to come up with the full cost all at one and you really take your time with the build stages making everything a little better. Enjoy the build, I can’t wait to see what you come up with!

[@Bucky916]

@@KJRaycing Do you use a purportioning valve for 60-70% front brake and 30-40 rear? Was thinking about using the honda civic version of this and running a Handbrake as well.

[@KJRaycing]

I use a balance bar and a front and rear master cylinder and have brake bias control on the fly. That’s what the yellow knob is on the left side of the dash. So I can be 50/50 on dirt and 70/30 on pavement.

[@EnfieldJoe]

Very thorough cost analysis. Thanks for sharing.

[@bradmaas6875]

One of those times where vague was useful. Thanx

[@inmyopinion6836]

Thank you for the effort . I hope it pays off . Great build , by the way !

[@KJRaycing]

I appreciate it. It’s going to be a fun summer with three karts going 👍💪

[@arminda173]

Please show all the motor install. Wiring, plumbing, etc. Really like your work. Thanks man!

[@KJRaycing]

We will get there i promise. I build in a specific order for a reason.

[@arminda173]

@@KJRaycing thanks man!! I'm building mine and kinda dont know how to really do that..

[@KJRaycing]

Have you seen all of the videos on my channel? A lot of this is covered in another video.

[@arminda173]

@@KJRaycing For sure. My main concern is about custom gas tank plumbing. Need to make one, gravity feed

[@FingerLakesMobileVet]

Let me start by saying I absolutely love your videos and bought your plans and sourced some parts. I believe you said in one of your videos that you sourced your metal from somewhere in Buffalo if I remember correctly. Did you also say you had a standard order you bought from them as well? Apologies if I am misremembering. Keep up the great work and I’m looking forward to finally becoming involved in the community.

[@vcashout4166]

I’m lucky enough to have a katana 600 that need a little work and a quad for more parts.i also work at dirt bike shop. I just started but I have access to many of the parts. . The most intimidating part to me is getting the chassis perfect. I will have to use a hand tube bender ,angle grinder and a cheap mig / plasma cutter and I’m new to any type of fabrication work . I never in a million years did I even think this would be possible.

[@KJRaycing]

That would be a really good motor, the oil cooler is smaller than a radiator and still has plenty of punch. You don’t need to sweat the chassis as long as you are not in a rush. I built two of these with a jd2 and they turned out just fine. The rogue fab just makes it faster, not easier. You still have to verify the bends, but since the rogue fab is vertical you can check it in the machine. Some people rotate their jd2 90 degrees to get the same effect. The plans include jigs so everything is square. I created these plans so it is difficult to get anything out of alignment. And the crossmembers make everything strong even if something gets a little off.

[@ThePatriotPath]

Very helpful. Thanks, man.

[@Ben3835]

Great price review. You mentionned the addition of the Trailtech Tachometer and a associated conversion kit. Are those seperate items to purchase and install or would it be some king of a plug in system ? In all cases, when you get there... I will be all eyes wide open. Thanks again. !

[@KJRaycing]

So since i like to use atv’s a company named trailtech makes aftermarket “computers” for the quads. So i just buy the kit that matches the bike which makes it a plug and play setup. I’ll do the next vid on that just for you, it’s pretty slick!

[@DS-rj9db]

Great Videos...Your series of videos are great and i also am going to be purchasing the plans as starting int he next few months. That would be awesome to see the electrical panel...I have a 2005 Polaris Predator 500 Troy Lee Edition that I can use as a donor vehicle. Not an Independent rear end and suspension but it will be...Like you said each vehicle is different and custom and has it's own price.

[@KJRaycing]

Thank you very much, that means a lot. I’m really thinking i might tackle a strait axle version if this. I know everyone wants the two seater, but i think a lot more people could get a drive in this with a strait axle.

[@damienkrohse3374]

Very nice, thank you for doing this video and breaking everything down.

[@KJRaycing]

You got it. I go off comments for the videos like this, so if you have anything you want me to cover let me know.

[@x19freak]

Such good stuff! Have you considered working with a tubing supplier / laser cutting company and offering a pre-cut chassis kit?

[@KJRaycing]

Thank you very much! I checked on it when I first started through a big fabrication company and they were more worried about profits and mass production than just getting a few kits together. I’m going to look locally to see what I can get done for the builders.

[@x19freak]

@@KJRaycing mark me down for one of the first jig and tube kits! Hopefully you can find a good shop to work with. I think a package with plans, laser cut tubes and jig would do quite well and reduces the barrier to entry.

[@deafduckracing2462]

Great video, and it was not boring at all. My only issue is you just cost me $7500+ for my next project. LMFAO!!!!! Thank you for sharing your experiences. Totally awesome.

[@KJRaycing]

You won’t regret it 😎. The build time splits up the cost over 6 months or more. I certainly could not have bought everything up front. I really hope you get the chance to build and drive one. The experiences of both is something all gear heads should have in their lifetime. Thank you for the compliment 🖖

[@shawnthompson9912]

Great work bro ! Keep it up

[@KJRaycing]

Yes, sir. Will do! Thank you.

[@stevenchandler4218]

Another good video man.

[@KJRaycing]

Sweet, thank you very much.

[@stevenchandler4218]

Looks like I have lost my money with PayPal man. Maybe if you do another set plans you will take that off for me 🤞🤪🤞

[@KJRaycing]

There you go buddy. Apparently just had to give it a day. If i do more plans i’ll give you a set anyway 👍💪

[@stevenchandler4218]

@@KJRaycing Thanks man uou are a legend!!!

[@stevenchandler4218]

What's happening KJ? Haven't seen you this week man. 🤗

[@pink_love_cat4928]

I seen where the little mazda car rear end cv joints and stuff was used to make a nice rear set up

[@KJRaycing]

I need to definitely research that more. Solid, readily available rear ends for not a lot of cheddar sounds very appealing.

[@pink_love_cat4928]

@@KJRaycing yes that would be a good video for sure

[@salemalmansoori4245]

I already paid for the plan's and components getting everything thing ready for the build

[@KJRaycing]

Yes!!! I always love to see a new build, they all have their own personalities.

[@051biohaz]

I’ve got a little kawasaki prarie 300...think it would be worth using as a donar vehicle? It’s 4 wheel drive so that would add to the complexity..but hey, i already own it..thanks for the upload..:)

[@KJRaycing]

I would definitely go for it 😁. I would add a second bottom floor to make room for the 4wd shafts and everything. The toughest parts about 4wd is fitting everything and the custom shafts needed. Good luck and thank you!

[@thefirsttrillionaire2925]

1:05 that just got a sub 😂 Thank you lol

[@MOE13576]

This is the question everyone had on their mind but never asked

[@KJRaycing]

Yessir. I hope kept it broad enough to keep everyone guessing 😎

[@g00gleisgayerthanaids56]

Crazy, in the span of a year metal is up $1500 just for this build. Granted, this was an online quote from the more expensive local supplier but still... i wish i could source metal for that cheap!

[@KJRaycing]

I know! I can’t go back and update that video. My most recent purchase was 28% more expensive than a year ago, that is a huge increase. Look for a local ‘metal supermarkets’, they are a franchise but have pretty good pricing and awesome selection.

[@g00gleisgayerthanaids56]

@@KJRaycing ive got a local supplier that always beats alro (who i got my online quote through) just waiting for them to get back to me. I run my own little fab/hobby shop, metal prices change daily and have always gone up. Getting to the point i might have to get a day job lol, having to tell my customers over and over that i just cant compete with slave labor and overseas manufacturing lol.

[@syzygy3239]

Funny I have many of these parts in my garage.

[@KJRaycing]

I’ve started a small collection of parts myself... need to stop looking on marketplace.

[@syzygy3239]

@@KJRaycing I have a polaris predator rolling chassis including brakes and everything. And a set of +2" a-arms. Was going to do an engine swap but I went a different direction. I don't need them.

[@suntzu6122]

I want to see you make an electric one :)

[@KJRaycing]

I keep checking prices and a good setup is really expensive, like $3k before batteries.

[@suntzu6122]

@@KJRaycing Its probably a bit advanced to build but that electric motor done right should fit this cart very well. Im assuming in the next even 5 years we'll see more motors, new motor tech, and cheaper batteries. Cant wait!

[@KJRaycing]

It would be simpler to build.. mount a motor, run it to the homebrew rear end, wire it and add a battery. If it didn’t cost so much I totally would have done it already. It would be simpler than a go kart with a predator engine.

[@suntzu6122]

@@KJRaycing would you mind telling me which motor you would use for an electric build? You said 3k before batteries but the motors I was looking at (were prob way too big or something) were much more expensive. The part I think would be harder is the cooling side of things. Thats the part that worries me the most is keeping all of the elements very cooled.

[@cebass7183]

where do you buy the metal panels and the special tubing?? was it online?

[@KJRaycing]

Metal supermarkets. It’s not special, I use pretty standard in stock materials.

[@Jan2594tax441]

What name did you say for where you could buy a rear diff? Proto Guy? I can't find it in a google search

[@KJRaycing]

Protodie

[@agoodsheperd880]

Tool costs? Tube bender, welder, jigs etc? Rough idea?

[@KJRaycing]

You can find tool costs on Rogue Fabs website, they just put together a KJ Raycing Crosskart build package. Tough question to answer because a lot of guys already have tools and welders… I mean a set of allen wrenches can be up to $70. Take some time and do a little research, it goes a long way when getting into a project like this 👍

[@spitfireskatr7]

Seems like the price of metal has gone through the roof since making this video. Looks like its going to cost close to 2k for all the tubing for the jig and chassis. Already ordered the rogue fab bender, was hoping to keep the build under 5k not including tools but it seems that's a pipe dream. Oh well I'm still doing it lol

[@MEETaMECHANIC]

I need parts From outlaw 525 IRS, do any suggestion where i can get it ?

[@KJRaycing]

Use the homebrew rear end, it is so much better!

[@MEETaMECHANIC]

@@KJRaycing i am just dead lazy to built my own Steering Knuckles, infact design is not a big part, but get a AL7075 and machining of it Here in India is quit difficult. But anyways i will do it.

[@KJRaycing]

I was talking about for the rear irs spool. You can use any atv front end. The outlaw 525, 500, polaris predator 500, raptor 700, raptor 660 are just a few and nearly any race quad will work.

[@Munoz387]

What tube diameter did you use for the main frame?

[@KJRaycing]

1.5 dom and 1.25 dom

[@bghouse2853]

Curious why the cost difference is between that one and the new blue one?

[@bghouse2853]

What the cost**

[@KJRaycing]

The blue one was actually the least expensive. It all depends on how you source your parts 🦾

[@bghouse2853]

You must have more options where you are then lol. Those quads and parts are pretty scarce where I’m at.

[@bghouse2853]

Awesome builds tho! You keep making videos and I’ll keep watching them. Looking forward to the trailer modifications!

[@KJRaycing]

I drove 4 hours to Maine for a good deal… turned out to be really worth it!

[@NoStepOnNeck]

9:23 😂

[@brandolo5990]

Your videos would greatly benefit from a decent microphone ! Awesome build!

[@KJRaycing]

Thank you very. Mic works pretty well with a t-shirt, with the hoodie it was not working very well. I never know until i hit editing! Thanks for toughing it out!

[@andycamacho6292]

How much does it way.

[@KJRaycing]

651lbs without driver for the polaris 500, not sure with the motorcycle engine. And i used .095 wall tubing because it was less expensive.

[@0NEH1T_]

I want 200 buff horses

[@KJRaycing]

We all do brother! Hrrsspowers 👍

[@rhooton19]

Great video! But your audio is horrible. Not sure if you have a microphone underneath your Hoodie but that's what it sounds like. Awesome job though

[@KJRaycing]

Thank you! It’s been a learning process. I started the channel at the request of guys that saw my work. I knew the fab and analytic stuff, just had to develop audio/video skills. They get better as you go.

[@nooneson1]

I get your going for the look of the rwb 911 but this will never be that its an mgb. You can replicate but do it to compliment the car you have it dont have to be exact. Even you say its silly just make small adjustments to make it suit the car your working with and youll still have the look your going for

[@KJRaycing]

Thank you for the comment. This is not supposed to look like a porsche though... it is supposed to look like a crosskart. I’m not actually sure what this means, sorry.

[@nooneson1]

@@KJRaycing o no im so sorry i feel like a dummy somehow i commented on the wrong video. Love what you do tho and would love to be able to build one of my own. My welding skills are nonexistent. So to build one would only stay a dream of mine sadly

[@ramjet7089]

What about tool costs?

[@KJRaycing]

I was torn on whether to to put that in or not. I use a lot of what i think are basic garage tools outside of the bender, notcher and welder and i cover those three in different videos... special for you though, bender package was 1800, notcher was 399 or 499 and welder was home depot 169.99 and adding gas was another 200 bucks. Thank you for the comment. 💪

[@АртемН-п7м]

Привет я из рассии меня завут артём я подписался на тебя, вот только я ничего не понимаю по англиски .где можно найти черчежи твоего багги?

[@jettran4465]

Can you just make 5 minute video of tearing it up?

[@KJRaycing]

I know everyone wants some action. Had some snow melt off today, may take the black one out tomorrow for some snow roosts 😉

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

Actually is a rip off for a welder..frame cost on parts 100 euro iron and 2000 to 5000 euro his effort? Thats crazy...in the end is a rich mans toys..it cost a sigle seat autocross style up to 35.000 euro plus...thats the cost of 2 new nissan suv or a 2018 m4 cp ...dont tell me its ok..its crazy expensive

[@KJRaycing]

I wanted to give everyone a chance to experience this. It’s the best i could do. Thank you for watching 👍

[@dark-starchemistryfabricat2405]

Yup. Just Gotta learn to accept that some people just live different than you and have different ranges of what is doable to them… Its not a Rich mans toy…its passionate mans endeavor…

[@thorfinsky1427]

Simple solution.....don't build one.

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

@@thorfinsky1427 are we in the same planet? 2 years ago you answer today🤣🤣🤣🤣 idid built all frame and stopped..2 seater badland

[@pink_love_cat4928]

Well i thought i had a polaris 500 i was to go get it tomorrow i find out today the S.O.B sold it after he said it was mine so im back at ZERO

[@KJRaycing]

That sucks so much! I was really excited for you. Keep on the lookout.

[@pink_love_cat4928]

@@KJRaycing yea i cant give up now watching you do the build ive got a taste for it now 😂 Thanks man