Knife Defense Flow Drills: Purpose & Limitations

[@DGTSJamora]

I respect and like both Funker Tactical and Fight Smart. Looking forward to what happens with the recent challenge Trav put up. I do learn a lot from Trav's trainings, so I'd like to see both your channels show us what's what.

[@maxl3189]

I'm looking forward to this more then the end of no nut november

[@antondelacruz9362]

Eh? But you didnt address the video. He doesnt refer to flow drills but techniques, some of which are presented individually, not in flow.

[@FunkerTactical]

Here are some links you might be interested in: Knife Defense: www.tricomtraining.com Knife Martial Art: www.pekiti.university The Guy in the video: instagram.com/jaredwihongi Official Funker IG: instagram.com/funkerofficial

[@ninjapanda123andy]

To be fair yes it may be a limited view, but he has very valid points if you ever actually go through with the free mini course or the full course. I think if we combine the knowledge it would be great. Also he actually goes through drills and spent a long time testing out methods as you may do. All I’m saying is if you don’t have a in person teacher, the course isn’t bad at all. It’s great to observe everyone’s perspective.

[@FunkerTactical]

@@ninjapanda123andy Valid points are not valid once they are applied to things they are not valid on.

[@ninjapanda123andy]

You may think it’s not valid but did you even give it a chance ? How can you say something is invalid while not hearing the whole argument. That sir, makes your assumptions invalid.

[@davydtaylor4151]

@@ninjapanda123andy very well said, and respectful too. Nice!!

[@juansamawa7763]

@@ninjapanda123andy nice

[@ives3572]

"The world of knife defense is packed with the dumbest techniques in all of martial arts," the truth that's unacceptably hard to swallow for martial artists who practice and train knife defenses. Your best defense from knife attacks is anything that you can use as a weapon against those attacks, coupled with your fight skills and techniques that you've practiced and trained over a long period of time.

[@darylfields]

I agree 💯

[@Donthepoolboy]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3iZd4WDpsiXqpo

[@watcher-someone-awake]

well said

[@holeephuc007]

Oh dear, The Illusionists, fakirs, snake charmers, mime artists and clowns have been called out by Trav. Reminds me of 1993 when UFC 1 came out and the frauds were exposed.

[@stephentreanor6788]

Put “his” money where your mouth is ! 10 grand to prove yourself

[@davydtaylor4151]

Just been to watch the other video in full as I could remember it fully. I must say, I think you’ve strawmanned him. The video I just watched gave specific videos of specific moves that didn’t work. For some reason you guys have said it’s a flow drill and is progressive but practically everything that the other guy used was set disarms, and they didn’t look like they’d work.. Even the video you guys used had some questionable moments. Obviously not the drills, but the clips of the disarms looked sketchy. I’ve spotted all this in a five minute glance, Others are bound to find more problems. In short, this video doesn’t refute anything said in the other video, it just enforced it more, imo.

[@FunkerTactical]

My contention is that his marketing material may have had limited considerations --- and it sure did. This does not negate the possibility of potential value from his findings. There was no strawman argument here...just more variables and considerations. -GN

[@epocholypse8638]

@@FunkerTactical you made a strawman that his video is based on flow drills, not specific disarms that flat out don't work. Example if you hold a knife and i punch your hand training techniques show you will drop the knife reality shows you will not drop the knife.

[@nathanwhouston]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3iZd4WDpsiXqpo 10k challenge. We want to see this

[@VileCAESARB]

@@FunkerTactical Didn't take his challenge though did you? Just clout chased with no substance...

[@maxl3189]

@@FunkerTactical take up.his offer

[@catherinedoll9429]

He wasn’t trashing flow drills .. lol . He was saying why do flow drills that don’t work ?

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

To that this video says that the flow drill *isn't* the final solution.

[@garybragg9527]

Respect, reality of training and benift. Flow is important in everything. Increase flow you increase efficiency. Our body is only made to move in certain ways. Become efficient with your flow. Love the reality "don't forget to punch". Singular tchnique focus can very easily limit your options without realization especialy in high stress situations. Looking back at footage like why didn't I do this or that. Video has great advice cause so many others out there saying it has to be their technique endangering people. More I have learned the simpler the actions are yet are just more efficient. Advanced = multiple "simple" options with ability to link them together seemlessly. Good points taken over years: (1)Nothing ever goes as planned so be the planner (2) Train soft react soft (3) Involuntary Muscle Memory Reaction takes time on the mat not just knowing the technique don't lie to yourself (4) First option of any assualt= evade if possible. (5). Don't be there, 99% everyone gets cut. Know your vitals and limit exposure. AND Finally the simplest thing I ever took away was short pass over in a innocent/untrained class defensive situation where they could not evade. Agressor stabbing or slicing. To think of their blade as flashlight and shine it on the the strike. Sounds too simple right but last choice options and someone without any training it is actually very effective. Try it you might be surprised versus trying to block. Plus average people don't know blades or they are scared of them. They are however not scared of flashlights and easy to use. Plus it shifts the Violence trigger to something they are comfortable with. Respect. (Sorry for so long just wanted to share)

[@FunkerTactical]

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[@Xannyphantom905]

that sparring video in the hotel with that cop was the best I've seen on knife defense

[@DrGregKramer]

I thinks his name was Sal..great video...Funker Tactical...in the video with Sal the "MARINE" you showed in the drill that the "flow " did not come to show itself with a non static training...am I missing the point ?.When aND where do flow drills have a value?

[@DrGregKramer]

BTW Travis is funny as hell and a great teacher...I have used his knife and head movement videos ...greast value ...Im looking for a Knife drill or perhaps "flow" drill...thats why Im here today watching the above...Funker thanks for your great content.

[@yourgym4668]

Don't decrease the goal. Increase the effort.

[@heyyou5492]

Yeah you should exert all your efforts for a questionable technique and use it in a life or death situation such as getting stabbed. A wise cop once said, in a seminar that i went, "Minimum effort with maximum result". Words to live by.

[@jimguest1814]

Excellent video! I love flow drills. You get improved cardio, hand/eye coordination, footwork, reflexes, smoothness, and more in one package. Thanks for all you do.

[@redwoodreaver4094]

When people trash flow drills I usually ask if they think pad work is BS. They usually say no. Then I drop but pad work isn't actual boxing. Then they usually list all the benefits of pad work, which I then point out flow drills are similar.

[@FunkerTactical]

Well played.

[@ninjaneil902]

Wow, that's a great point! Thank you for sharing.

[@Chamcgrady]

Exactly, very nice comparison

[@Jasonyerface]

My teacher uses the analogy of tire runs in football training. It's a common drill but are there ever tires on the field during an actual game? I hope not but it could be entertaining to see that. LOL!

[@redwoodreaver4094]

@John Allen I'm not sure I follow. Care to elaborate?

[@QuantumPyrite_88.9]

Sometimes the "winner" dies later .

[@Sk0lzky]

That's exactly what I thought seeing that ad. But what I think is the origin of the problem is the fact, that no KZbin video out there showing these drills (including yours, except that one where Doug Marcaida says it's a form of art and he does it for fun) that explain what they're meant to accomplish. And it's unfortunately also true for most courses and seminars I've seen. In MMA and HMA (swords and stuff) my coaches would always go to great lengths to explain the methodology behind the teaching process and uses for every exercise, drill and degree of intensity. I haven't seen this in self defence classes, not to mention videos

[@FunkerTactical]

This one did.

[@AMINOCHA4]

Excellent advice, by repetition of our moves and flow, we engrain it in our subconscious! And then it helps us even when we are super stressed 🧘🏻‍♂️🌄⛰🕉

[@kalebgates7711]

take the 10k bet

[@geoffreyfletcher6976]

Very glad that someone did a video addressing the limited viewpoints of other arts and tactics used in their ad as a selling point and marketing tool. Then example they show in their add is meant to be utilized in a very specific context, where one is being threatened by an attacker with a blade, but not actually attacking yet. Thus it's success relies on both the element of surprise used by the defender having an already hands raised position (which might be assumed as a natural fear reaction to having a knife shoved suddenly into their face to intimidate) and the attacker attitude of overconfidence due to having a weapon and feeling at that point in control. That defense shown was never meant to defend against the attacker doing wild stabs.

[@danielquest8644]

I agree. The biggest problem with the “knife defenses are garbage” video is that he takes the defenses out of context.... applies them incorrectly, then says “this is so dumb”. I guarantee, as an FMA practitioner, that I would be able to show that guy in the original video what he is doing wrong, and why when he applies it the way he does it doesn’t work. I can’t say that all techniques work, so probably some systems have some pretty trash techniques..... but I will say that you don’t get the full understanding by watching videos... applying the techniques incorrectly.... and then selling your own half baked system to people that don’t know any better. Thanks FT for calling him out! Keep going!

[@aljiichiban]

I'd rather watch Jim Wagner, than enroll in that thing. And of course, continue my drills.

[@noone3734]

So basically the techniques only work against scrubs who aren't actually intent on harming someone? Are there any techniques these guys show which would work against a motivated knife attacker? He's training soldiers, so his techniques better work against trained knife fighters, but they won't, which is embarrassing.

[@blakium1]

Hope you go for the $10.000,00 challenge. I am a fan of both channels and honestly think the whole community would benefit from the challenge footage and be safer because of it. Imo, even if you loose, you will not look stupid, you will actually be freaking brave and humble. If you win, all the better. Good luck! Cheers from Brazil!

[@Typ0NegNo]

Then take up his 10 000 dollars challenge!

[@doomsday8739]

Great points. However, I feel the need to point out that FMA is more of an exception than a rule in this case. Many systems that incorporate knife defense, such as branches of kung fu and karate, are extremely rigid and pattern-based, and I think that FightSmartTrav is right about the all-encompassing "world" of knife defense being filled, overall, with stupid techniques that could get people killed. Nonetheless, as long as students of violence remain skeptical yet open-minded, there are still useful techniques and concepts to be found.

[@okish02]

Have you studied those styles??? How would you know??? I trained Kung fu hapkido and our knife work is best I ever trained .Hint quit the patty cake stuff . Learn to stab something will fill body force.... a knife should be felt not seen

[@Whiskydanger]

@@okish02 yeah bro. All the martial arts you listed are worthless. I mean it. Worthless.

[@okish02]

@@Whiskydanger feel free to come to our dojo and you can show us how worthless it is

[@jaycegibson1454]

The Fight Smart guy came up with a lot of his own stuff based on surveillance from knife attacks with heavy MMA implications

[@anurruti]

I got the video and it is really good. Some stuff I have already came up by own instinct some others I found myself saying "this is new and its quite useful'. This video misses the point of Trav's complaint.

[@FunkerTactical]

Right, no doubt there are some good findings there. However, look...one guy "doing research" by watching CCTV videos may be valuable. But it's not like departments and institutions don't do that...and at higher levels...and with proven track records...over time. So when "some guy" comes up with a lot of "his own stuff" based on what essentially amounts to watching KZbin videos...you gotta take it with a grain of salt. And this is my issue with the promotion of his material...it manufactures a sense of validity by way of knocking down the processes and findings of others. No bueno.

[@deejin25]

@@FunkerTactical No nation on Earth has battle tested their blade techniques for as long as the Philipinos, where insurgents and street gangs, train and attack each other to this day. Where the arts have faced everything from Spanish Fencing to, Banzai Charges, to duels to the death charging machine guns in the jungle with Bolo's. The U.S. Marines taught me in bootcamp that so many of their men were killed by jungle blades that they upgraded their side arm to the 45 and required Marines to wear Leather neck protection. This is where we got our name Leathernecks, because Escrima was and is deadly, battle tested and relevant to this day.

[@dalefrank6464]

@@FunkerTactical I have no skin in this game, other than being around different combat systems for several decades. Over the years I've seen a lot of B.S. I don't think Fight Smart is B.S. That being said, I would like to see you take his challenge to see if you are right and I am wrong about him. What do you say?

[@JadedMax]

@@FunkerTactical Ok. Take him up on his challenge then.

[@mattw7949]

$10,000 challenge from Trav. Just sayin...

[@nathanwhouston]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3iZd4WDpsiXqpo Here is the challenge video for anyone scrolling by

[@FunkerTactical]

Re: $10,000 Challenge, for Trav and the people he fooled: Watch the whole thing and get educated: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKGpnZpnos6na6c For the educated, here's ONE example of his BS tests: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHq6k2OMpaymjdU (I issue him my own challenge!) These are my thoughts (Paulo/GN) and does not reflect those of Funker Tactical, its affiliates or partners. Enjoy. Stay safe and keep training! -GN

[@psychologicalsigma9917]

Pointy end goes in the other guy

[@davidcorsello4501]

Hey bro, we're not all trained knife experts like you. Could you dumb that down a little for us?

[@psychologicalsigma9917]

@@davidcorsello4501 point end not in you 👍👍😘

[@carlotheemo]

@@psychologicalsigma9917 wealth of knowledge this man

[@andyt8133]

You sir just blew my mind!

[@marcusballard2550]

Not bashing your techniques, but Trav has basically pointed out that there are many techniques that aren’t practical and are over committed. Is the risk worth the reward? Also, sorry but you aren’t slapping the back of someone’s hand and popping a knife out. This is the crap Trav pointed out. And it is just that, crap. I agree with you on drilling over and over is the proper way. Muscle memory is the king.

[@NoneMcNobody]

I purchased Travs head movement program, wish I'd had this decades ago when I was an amateur fighter. Having said that, Travs arguement that certain techniques don't work is a straw man arguement: he either purposefully or ignorantly performs them completely wrong, them claims that since he can't make them work, they're useless. His arguement that 'the world of knife defence...' is a straw man arguement as well, he's trying to frame it as empty hands vs the knife. Filipino martial arts at least, are weapon vs weapon. Period. Empty hands are an absolute last resort where it's openly acknowledged that you're in a serious disadvantage. Trav is criticizing things from the wrong standpoint. Bad guy pulls a knife, I sprint away if I can, pull my knife and dominate the fight it I can't.

[@searaider7685]

Υour chance to prove yourself is just right in front of you. Travs challenge is on! Accept it and see ehat happens

[@a.s.dreier3665]

Well, Fight Smart will give you $10,000 if you can make your disarm work--CHallenge issued today!!Can't wait to see!!

[@maxl3189]

Lol why even upload this video? If does not back any of the moves fight smart tried and tested and is very childish You don't think knife defense works? Well watch this lol such a fop

[@617x]

i can smell excuses coming from miles away

[@maxl3189]

@@617x we won't get too witness his humiliation :(

[@andyt8133]

I haven’t watched Travs knife defence video so I can’t comment about that, but I have to say I do like and respect Trav a lot.

[@kickmasterbengarton7577]

I was looking for the skip ad button because I’ve seen that ad too many times 🤣

[@ravenzetsu9979]

same here...

[@FunkerTactical]

@@ravenzetsu9979 I'm so tired of it...dude must be cashing in pretty good.

[@irbadltald2532]

@@FunkerTactical Or because it actually works...

[@starbattles1]

@@irbadltald2532 Or because the media has made a nation of half scared people and half pissed off people and a civil war could be on the horizon, so people are taking self defense and buying guns and ammo like crazy.

[@asantos859]

Always solid content with GN and this crew!

[@jacquesdutoitpvt]

So, are you going for the 10k challenge?

[@jquin3]

He did accept 3 weeks ago.

[@noone3734]

This video is a classic example of the strawman fallacy. Trav wasn't dissing flow drills, he is saying the actual techniques are BS. Like the Russian takedown the guy shows, it won't work against a motivated attacker.

[@maxl3189]

Go try them on him, he called you out

[@thomasturner4253]

Learning how to move and be safe is primary If u can't move out of the way U will get hurt Enjoyed ur video It was educational Thumbs up

[@jamesdawson1171]

Finally someone said it. First rule in knife fighting...get out of the way of the knife

[@ElderGuy729]

When I was a young man I took knife defense courses based on Kali techniques. It’s been a number of years since then, but what I see here is absolutely excellent, and reminiscent of the flow drills we used to do. Well done gentlemen.

[@ca177]

Well done !! All martial arts & martial sports use drills to engrain movement... The drills are not the end, but simply laying the foundation for the movements.. Turning conscious thought into muscle memory..

[@maxl3189]

Why obtain muscle memory that does not help whatsoever?

[@ca177]

@@maxl3189 I dunno... Why practice on a speed bag if the opponent doesn’t reciprocate their head like that ?? Why roll with a weighted dummy when people aren’t that limp ?? Why aim for a strike pad when targets don’t always wait for you ?? There’s practice, and there is sparring... Just like in soccer there are drills and there are games... Each one compliments the other...

[@lsporter88]

Those drills looked helpful. That would be a logical way to build a foundation. And your commentary at the end made perfect sense in my humble opinion. Great presentation.

[@Snatcher604]

I understand the necessity of repping the A & the C, but the problem is when it gets to T, thats where it becomes unrealistic. Someone lunging through with their whole body and arm when trying to stab someone is highly unrealistic, as you know that knife hand will be retracted as quickly & violently as it was extended toward that person. That makes the Terminations in this video almost useless, because as we know, trying catching a knife hand in motion is like trying to hold onto an eel with oil on your hands.

[@FunkerTactical]

Same issue...you're looking towards the "final stage" and viewing stages before it as "not realistic enough" --- the entire video is quite literally proposing a progressive approach.

[@Snatcher604]

@@FunkerTactical lemme clarify myself. I can see the difference between the stages, I understand that there are attributes needed in successful knife defense: Footwork, timing, tactile sensitivity, fluidity, co-ordination, the list goes on. But the Termination techniques are based on the final stage. It is literally the termination of the knife attack using a specific technique. I’m all for training for attributes that go into successful performance of a skill, but what attributes does the T in ACT train you for?

[@FunkerTactical]

@@Snatcher604 --- some very important ones: Timing of execution, nuances of leverage, and reading the subject's energy to apply the appropriate technique. Also, the T can stand for Takedown (connected) --- it can stand for Throw (disconnected) and Transition (disengagement and/or going to higher force options). I hope that makes sense. Thanks. -GN

[@Snatcher604]

@@FunkerTactical fairplay, thanks for clearing that up.

[@thebaneking4787]

I wrote him and told him to accept. I told him about you and Kennedy. I also told him about Kennedy's ability to keep going after being tased with the knife. But I also said Kennedy wasn't respecting the reality of what the blade would do.

[@chrisvandewater7066]

I have noticed from the comments on here that Funker Tactical only seems to reply to comments that are more in line with their opinion, any comment about Trav's challenge seem to be ignored... If you really stand by your opinion then what do you have to lose? Like Trav said, if you lose, its not necessarily humiliating, it is a chance to learn what REALLY works and what doesn't. Isn't that the point of teaching people techniques that could save their lives? You're not trying to get people killed by teaching garbage that doesn't really work right? So, if you win, you get $10k and proof that you were right. If you lose, you learn something useful and people benefit from it (which could potentially save lives) and, if you do nothing, you look like a tool that shouldn't be calling people out if they're not willing to back up their stuff, especially since they probably didn't expect to be called out right back and challenged to prove your point. Just food for thought... the people are watching, and are very interested in seeing this challenge accepted.

[@Imthat676]

As my Sensei said once : "The most effective defence against a knife Attack Is running Endurance"

[@RolaiEckolo]

Bro yes! The only time these techniques should show themselves is when you are backed into a corner fearing for your life. And even then, calling for help is still preferable.

[@i.q369]

What does your sensei say you have to do if you're in your house with your family and you can't run?

[@RolaiEckolo]

@@i.q369 He'd probably say that that's an adequate reason to use martial arts and weapons.

[@i.q369]

@@RolaiEckolo yea but I'm after what those techniques are. Honestly i just want a legit knife seof defense dude thats has reliable and logical solutions. Because i can't find any

[@Imthat676]

@@i.q369 he said that i invited the wrong person for dinner

[@nilsthomsen9480]

I’m asking this from a position of ignorance and not as a rhetorical point: is there any evidence any of the FMA techniques work? Other than so-and-so says so? We realized that traditional martial arts don’t work so well in the early NHB UFC events and Gracie Challenges. How do you know it’s not the same with FMA techniques? Others have mentioned peer review and elements of scientific inquiry. An important element not yet mentioned is falsifiability. How could we show that the stuff you’re teaching doesn’t work? If any claim can’t be contradicted with evidence, you have a problem. The Trav guy presents evidence, a friend really trying to stab him-a determined adversary-and (whatever his level mastery) the techniques don’t seem to work. Why doesn’t somebody who is a recognized master of the techniques make a challenge and invite random people on the street try stab them with a fake training knife, and if they get the stab, they get $50? Nothing is 100% and there will be no doubt some failures, but if the techniques are legit, they should be successful far more often than not.

[@nilsthomsen9480]

This is pretty much what I had in mind and its the only such video I could find: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3TOi4FthduDmck I would say its not totally representative because the guy clearly has a reach advantage on pretty much all of the challengers, but he definitely put it on the line.

[@MadMaxJuggernaut]

The one thing you're overlooking is that in the street, chances are the other person isn't someone that trains. But martial arts like Silat, Krav maga and etc aren't made for a ring. To make a challenge where you would allow a practitioner of krav maga, silat or any other military martial arts go 100% you would have to make both sign a waiver that they're risking to lose an eyeball or destroyed bones and at worst, death. Even then I would highly doubt anyone would be willing to do that knowing that no one wants to cause someone to lose an eyeball or kill someone that isn't a threat to their life.

[@nilsthomsen9480]

@@MadMaxJuggernaut I completely agree the person is unlikely to be trained, thats why I'm suggesting randoms on the street. You want someone who isn't "speaking the same language." The rest of your statement is exactly the problem. You're saying the techniques/strategies are too dangerous to apply outside of a life or death struggle--essentially there is no empirical method to show they work or don't. IF they are complete BS, there is no way to know except through the affirmation of a community of people who think the same thing. I don't presume to know much about the various systems of knife fighting, but I can tell you this is the exact line of reasoning that lead to chi-balls, the death touch, and no-touch knockouts in traditional martial arts. The empirical method to test them was Vale Tudo, Gracie Challenges, and early UFC events. Those were all no-rules or very few rules and you could do pretty much whatever you want. Also, it doesn't happen so much anymore, but I can tell you that if anyone dropped into pretty much any bjj or mma gym and said they wanted to see if their Krav Maga worked, they'd have a line of takers. 10 years ago this was not uncommon.

[@ricksterdrummer2170]

@@MadMaxJuggernaut Your mentality is actually dead wrong! Sadly... Since the popularity of UFC a lot of “bullies” have started taking boxing or mma classes. Chances of facing an attacker that knows how to throw stuff like a lowkick or a rear-naked choke are high! And to this day higher than ever.

[@MadMaxJuggernaut]

@@ricksterdrummer2170 that's just anecdotal evidence, same for my evidence. From my experience those bullies don't last long in a dojo

[@anurruti]

I think you are missing Trav's point for a wide margin. Trav's point is that most of the trainings are not realistic for many reasons, starting by extremely compliant attackers who stay stationary while the other knifes the life out of him. That is dumb. Flow exercises work, as you show in your video. Also, they are usually done in a very controled speed that does not allow to aprehend the danger were it be a real attack, therefore many of the techniques and exercises simply would not work.

[@boywonder4509]

Some commenter compared these flow drills to boxing pad work. I rolled my eyes. We have a never ending amount of evidence showing how pad work and other boxing drills are applied in live sparring situations. It's called the sport of boxing. Where's the evidence these drills would work in a live situation?

[@FunkerTactical]

@@boywonder4509 JiuJitsu and wrestling.

[@boywonder4509]

@@FunkerTactical Please point me to the evidence. Where can I find people applying these flow drills in a live sparring/grappling situation? Grappling is one thing. Grappling with a knife is something else. As you probably know the knife adds so many different variables and deadly consequences to the equation. I'm not arguing what's being shown doesn't work. I'm just not buying until I see these techniques applied in a live situation with a shockknife or training knife.

[@anurruti]

@@boywonder4509 I meant the type of exercises shown here that are more movile and flowing are better than just teaching techniques that have plagued the kinfe defense worl and dont work as Trav points. All those techniques get flushed by the toilet as soon as one increases speed to ~70% and start applying more force and intent in the slash or stab etc. I think these flow exercises would still help to better oneself in this art but would not be enough.

[@seneca1932]

Fernando Antonio, there’s drills and then there’s techniques and tactics. Flow drills are just to teach you to adapt to whatever your partner (or opponent) is doing, as well as to “see the gaps,” as my Guro put it. Once you start to see the openings, that’s where technique comes in. Hope this helps. Edit: it’s said that the largest collection of Japanese swords are in the Philippines, taken from dead Japanese soldiers in combat during WW II. I’d say that’s a pretty compelling argument for effectiveness. Feel free to verify that, though.

[@9cloud4]

Awesome video and off course it's an honor to training with such persons who's always comes up with new tactics according to the situations is appreciated. these drills helps to develop awareness and making sure with movement is important. Thank you GN for such video and Funker family love and respect for you all.

[@FunkerTactical]

Thank you for that feedback.

[@maxl3189]

@@FunkerTactical take the offer grab presented, until then you have no backbone to stand on

[@pwulfe8728]

Beautifully articulated. These are drills, pattern training. When these drills get not advanced you get into breaking the patterns. Also, yes you do have to pressure test your training. I am not knocking any art, but more peoples' approach to the arts. The rise in MMA, Krav Maga, BJJ has birthed a lot of pissing matches. Who is better? What is realistic? Then you get the traditional arts coming at the argument trying to defend their system, and you end up with a philosophy debate. It's about time everyone gets credit where credit is due. Traditional arts have lots of conditioning training either for health, or old outmoded combat methods. Sport martial arts, or many combat oriented prepare you from either ring fighting or situations you may not ever find yourself in. This is getting long winded. My point is KNOW your art, KNOW you purpose for training and if you're going to train with martial intent, or for self defense please be realistic with what you are doing. You are not going to survive with "Crouching Tiger" stuff, don't be a fantasy warrior. Also, don't be a meat head tough guy just because you've been in the ring, or done a knife seminar. This is real life. Train well, do your drills , do forms and pressure test your skills without killing each other.

[@bryantherocker]

Ok. Take him up on his challenge then.

[@davidrisselada6199]

Getting people to coordinate their footwork in accordance with the drill is the most difficult part. They are great for developing coordination, for sure.

[@boata347]

Ha ha... I have seen that video you referenced. It makes me laugh. In my training we make it as realistic as possible, but with the understanding that the disarm is a target of opportunity not the main focus of the drill. Like Tuhan Jared said; the most important thing is movement and controlling your opponent. Breaking contact or disarms are to be explored so you will know when the time is right, but controlling your movement and opportunities for a counter offense are more important to survival. Sometimes Breaking contact isn't an option. You don't have to be a master in a knife fight, you just have to be better than the other guy. LoL.

[@danzigrulze5211]

Through all the years I've trained in self-defense, the only thing I know that is a constant, someone is trying to turn a buck and sell me some shit I don't need. We have access to the largest library of martial arts right at our finger tips, the only thing you need to do is train in what works, and throw away everything else that doesn't. I know this sounds like some Bruce Lee shit, and that's because it is, but it is also the truth. So be smart. Question everything and don't let anyone tell you they know better, unless they can fucking prove it!

[@Chamcgrady]

As a FMA student I do agree when you say it doesn't work all the time because edge weapons attacks (knife in this case) don't follow the same patterns always but, at least you can have an idea of what to do... I am NOT saying do not do drills, I am saying: SIMPLIFYING the movements is more effective sometimes. Thanks for the video dude 😎👊

[@angeloflores2614]

Well the drills make the training so much fun to the point that you want to do it in a daily basis

[@EAGLE-rx6mu]

YES YES AND YES... KEEP IT JOYFUL AND DON'T WORRY ALL THE TIME ABOUT REALISM...

[@epocholypse8638]

My issue isn't flow drills but many people follow teachings blindly and don't question the validity with resisting opponents. You are seeing it in many martial arts take bjj as an example when adding rule changes i.e. slams, slapping you are seeing some techniques just flat out fail. Drilling, flow work , pad work, etc are great when the technique is useful is the technique is bad you spend time training a technique that will fail when needed.

[@epocholypse8638]

You possibly attacked one part of his video which I never watched admittedly. I do remember seeing the ad and one of the techniques he went after was punching the hand then the assailant drops the knife. When I was younger I held a dull knife and had my brother punch my hand and I never dropped the knife once.

[@mykulpierce]

Will you review the knife /dagger techniques in Fiore's Flower of battle? It's a 14th century manuscript that includes various weapons including unarmed wrestling versus weapons. Googling the title should yield a free PDF or two with english translations.

[@jameswessling6982]

Hey, thanks for this man. I'll definitely be looking for this. *Edit* if you Google Fiores Flowers of Battle pdf it's the first result. A little big at 538 pages but it's there and free for everyone. Thanks again

[@mykulpierce]

@@jameswessling6982 not a problem, but I urge that when looking at these techniques to put them in historic perspective of the amount of soldiering, wrestling, and physical training that likely accompanied them. I often worry that many HEMA practitioners fall in love with trying to copy technique as it an interpretive exercise that never reaches fruition of a practical martial skill.

[@jameswessling6982]

@@mykulpierce oh I agree, I've never settled into one discipline and consider myself a forever student. I just like learning about new things related to this sort of thing and I like seeing how the old timers did it haha

[@mykulpierce]

@@jameswessling6982 great mind set!

[@DCBAUGH]

The martial arts world is filled with dumb techniques that don't work in a real life scenario and it is rampant. I have quit different schools because of this and gone to other schools that actually teach something that does work. Fight Smart is right on point with their observation. I think they also know the difference between a drill to develope flow and when someone is trying to pass off an actual stupid technique as effective which many schools and instructors do.

[@WritingEliteGaming]

I love the end comments, and how the host goes into detail to explain the important aspects of these drills.

[@marchantal9]

anyone who thought those drills were more than building blocks have never studded anything intensively. Nice work as always GN ;-)

[@loristronci4897]

He never trashed flow drills though. I dont understand the comparison. The smart fight dude isn't saying that flow drills are unrealistic, he said some of the techniques taught for self defense don't work under stress. Kind of a big difference. More to his point the Libre Knife Fighting guys agree. So this response is a little apples and oranges.

[@anurruti]

exactly. He missed the point made by Trav.

[@maxl3189]

@@anurruti and they showed some.bloke doing some.usless.drill to prove a point which wasn't included.in travs video lol, way to hide the problem.under a blanket n everyone soaked it up lol Bunch on keyboard warriors don't know any better

[@malcolmsmith8694]

Interesting video. Much love from Wheeling West Virginia.

[@bodyno3158]

The first rule of knife fights is don't get into a knife fight.

[@jules4213]

Great video. What knife were you holding in your hand; Fallkniven? If so, which one?

[@888drlong]

Thank you for this. Much respect!

[@steebo7883]

Great videos very useful content and applications training has to be precise and as close to real life as possible but as you said safe enough so you don't get injured resulting in you being unable to effectively defend yourself. Thanks for sharing Respect

[@doccholo905]

Knife Defense 101: Have a gun, shoot the attacker

[@terryharris1291]

Do you understand the 21 ft rule,unless your pistol is already out you are in trouble.

[@charlesbronson9879]

Trav from Fightsmart said he can still stab you dude. He said $10,000 says he can. Don't punk out dude. Just do the video. If you can stop him you get $10,000. If you don't you get humiliated but hey, if you refuse to acknowledge him you get humiliated too. Lol. Just do it. Your channel will survive.

[@maxl3189]

It will never happen, why would these clowns want to be proved wrong aha, they will loose more then they will gain, Nevertheless I am keen as mustard

[@jquin3]

He did accept about 3 weeks ago.

[@charlesbronson9879]

Travis is going to humiliate the dude. Lol. Good luck.

[@charlesbronson9879]

@@jquin3 when is the video coming out????

[@jquin3]

@@charlesbronson9879 Still hasnt happened yet. Paulo is still training for the challenge. You can watch him training if u want to in his other channel.

[@mcroadracer1]

Very good explanation

[@nafizrashid5365]

There is a Philippino martial art called Kali.. Ttheir techniques are really good.

[@normwilson117]

GN, can’t thank you enough for taking the time to help folks like me better understand the fullness of these concepts and the context under which they provide value; going to find a local org to get back on the mat and better prepared to defend myself open-handed against a blade

[@Joel-bj8om]

Concise explanation. Keep it up👍👍

[@jchaves26]

Thanks for sharing Maestro! Greetings from Brasil!

[@ninjaqazwsx]

Reply from Trav: "Then please show us your 5 best techniques, and let's see who's techniques are better". Can you please answer him.

[@lucarossi8442]

The mantra of my army instructor was "in a knife fight if your opponent is barely competent when you see the knife it's already too late". In this regard flow drills are questionable, a knife attack is fast and its targets are unpredictable, an expert knife fighter will not target your chest or your head, he will cut your hands, your wrists, your knees, your calves. Usually after just two or three cuts or stabs you will go in shock and the fight it's over.

[@rollingstone3017]

Well, he has now challenged you. Do it. Prove you are correct.

[@mgkoenig69]

Glad to see this video!!!

[@JamesLayton2012]

Do you have dvd's that are available for purchase or a download digital format?

[@ravenzetsu9979]

the title itself just makes me want to watch this...to the point of autoclicking the video the moment its in my recommended...

[@paksau1]

If I were to do a channel...I would want it to be like yours!! This was 100% spot on. I'm not hating the other guy for trying to make his money. It's just so many moving parts to this discussion. I love you view of training. Been a Sub since day one...Great Job!

[@FunkerTactical]

Hey! Thank you very much for your support! I wasn't hating on the other guy either --- although some may see it that way, I was simply adding to the conversation and providing some clarity.

[@tianxiu]

This looks familiar with TaiChi Push Hand Drill. In traditional martial art, people call these types of drills the Feeding Drill. A guy feeds an attack to B guy to practice the parry, then B guy transition that parry back into an attack and feed it to A guy, so both of them can train efficiently. The only requirement is a good training buddy lol.

[@jameswessling6982]

Thank you guys for this. I love learning new things, looking at things from a different perspective. I consider myself a forever student and I've learned so much from your videos. Thanks again. Stay safe.

[@claud1961]

Training, training, training! So many different views about training. Everybody has an opinion, and I think that's good! It wasn't all that long ago that there was so little available information you only had one point of view. You trained in Shotokan, that's what you knew. Boxers didn't worry about kicking, wrestlers didn't worry about boxing, you might have some Judo but if it wasn't available you didn't know about it. Now we have not just some information, we have ALL of it, right at our fingertips, good, bad, and in-between(for me, that is stuff it takes a long time to master) and of course, there is a lot of stuff still floating around just because it always has. In the end, it is just looking for a faster way to develop the skills you think you will need. Problem is, we all train for the fight we want, not the fight we will get. No short cuts, just lots of somewhat boring repetitions and sore muscles. Thanks again for another good training episode. They always inspire me!

[@jeffschneider8368]

Great channel , subscribed

[@FunkerTactical]

Welcome to the community.

[@knullaeramammor]

Take travs challenge then if you’re so sure of the “knife defense “ that you praise.... hahahahah Guess we’ll never see that happening 😝

[@maxl3189]

Hey, I got wishful thinking, looking forward to the results

[@genrrizeecuvsfatti4747]

If trav is man enough why not challenge the mobs here in tondo or in mindanao. Let see if his technique work.

[@knullaeramammor]

@@genrrizeecuvsfatti4747 because that’s not really what the challenge is about now is it???? He challenge funkertactical because what they teach , that their knife defense is working in a lethal encounter with an attacker on the streets- not some fucken “flow drill” !!! Flow drill does work if u want a good workout but not if attack by a methhead or crackhead in search of what’s in your pocket- see the difference that I just pointed out?

[@knullaeramammor]

@@genrrizeecuvsfatti4747 think this way - if u claim that your car can go from 0-100 in 1sec and someone call u out- do u show other cars in videos that also doing it and say that I’m wrong without proof or man up and take the challenge too prove them wrong?

[@genrrizeecuvsfatti4747]

@@knullaeramammor its hypocritical.. tho cuz. Trav self defense doesnt always work either if you fight a trained fighter. Thats why i challenge him go to tondo or in southern mindanao. People their trained fma. Let see if his self rightous self defense work. Those drills works but it depends on the situation. It doesnt work if someone have the knowlege of your art. I watch trav self defense bullshit in his site . Which is most of them are bullshit. The best self defense against knife weilding dude is to run. Or to give what they wanted. And he talks like a big shot. In fact he is a civilian. Lol those drills is to enhance your muscle memory. Let see if he can defend himself without getting cut here. By the fact that there is death match here proves that this art works. Why not joined the death match here. Tho. And prove if his art works.

[@patrickjubb6235]

Love a hubad myself love the tapi tapi but think the X system (no idea what it's actually called ) but you probably know what I mean if you know knife techniques). It's far simpler and while hubad is vital for emergencies and as you say it's a great fundamental the C thing (sorry I can do it but for the life of me can't remember the name) as my bro used to say though. If your in a knife fight and you forgot your knife it's called a stabbing

[@piyushbanerjee2808]

Haha KZbin showed me an ad of the same guy just before this video

[@bitterblossom19]

I love how people can't get their brains to wrap around the fact that a drill is a drill and is not what you're supposed to actually do in a scuffle.

[@BrutalV1k1ng]

This has got to be one of the most pointless, self-promoting videos I've seen in a while. This video had absolutely ZERO to do with the video is was addressing. The arguments about b.s. "knife defense" (not introductory knife handling drills) had to do specifically with the absurd knife disarm techniques and the like which are more-often-than-not an express way to donate large chunks of your flesh and blood to the pavement and various inanimate objects within splash range. And anyone that swears otherwise, or runs around with a knife and promotes knife training non-stop, has NEVER stabbed someone or been stabbed in an actual fight. And if you see someone constantly holding a knife everytime you see them it's because they're a complete tool who is compensating to something very small....

[@wesleydaub8002]

I would like for you all to demonstrate how to cut your way out of a choke hold while wielding a knife.

[@MistaKnifeguy]

Hey P, what blade are you holding in this vid?

[@FunkerTactical]

Akustrike

[@irbadltald2532]

Main issue is all the videos these "experts/masters" put out are flow drills. Very few if ANY videos of these guys going 100%

[@FunkerTactical]

What could you learn from "seeing" other guys go at it with full force or intention? Little, if any.

[@irbadltald2532]

@@FunkerTactical That it WORKS plan and simple. Like your video with that marine/cop guy Sal.

[@irbadltald2532]

@@FunkerTactical What other fighting style or martial arts instructor would you take instruction from without EVER seeing either the instructor or one of their students do/use it??

[@irbadltald2532]

@@FunkerTactical Doesn't even have to be 100%, make it 75%. Touch gloves and let's see it. No static/planned attacks. Free will sparring with fake knives and show me your techniques work

[@louisluna1]

Good point Tald.... wasn't the original UFC about this , how about Tony Blauer he's all about speaking / showing his ideas, or Bruce ...everyone thought he couldn't be the real deal, i personally look also at criminals and how they think ,fight or train....But at the end of the day everyone can learn from one another, and if you don't want to then well :]

[@parkerstephens9639]

“When you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that hollers is the one you hit.”

[@on-siteshootingacademy5365]

Funker Tactical is AWESOME.. especially in the knife defense training. I recently purchased the (knife) defense videos from FIGHT SMART... Please do not waist your time and money with those videos. The only thing that Trav is going to teach you is how to be a Corpse. Please stay clear of Trav and Fight Safe, find and attend a good school. One that is teaching what you see here in Funker Tactical.

[@AlexN2022]

everybody and their uncle do nice flow drills. How does it look like on a resisting opponent?

[@shahin5025]

click bait!! there is no videos of dumb techniques, Just proper training lol

[@FunkerTactical]

Sorry about that. lol!

[@blaquentgruppe6547]

So no video You know why Copyright

[@shahin5025]

@@blaquentgruppe6547 it was a joke, i guess you didnt get it :)

[@smetilgen6956]

Tuhon Rommel Tortal told me this techniques are to just to get familiar.

[@FunkerTactical]

This video is not about a specific technique at all.

[@smetilgen6956]

My bad. I meant drill. Thanks again for the video👍

[@clegrand73]

Thank you brother. Awesome like always. PTK PERÚ.

[@FunkerTactical]

Always

[@636racer]

thank you for making this video & yes i saw that guy’s video but i never watched his solution i just saw red flags for he need the viewer to sign up to his program to learn more

[@Msosbog]

I signed up for it and it's a teaser as he wants you to pay for the full program after the free mini course. He had some good points, but not enough for me to pay for more. Oh, and he sends you way too many emails 😁

[@636racer]

@@Msosbog oh wow! yea i def dont trust that dude & im sure he out there taking peoples money & giving them the illusion they can “win” a knife fight 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Msosbog]

@@636racer I mean, he (Trav) is actually pretty good and is by far not the worst I've seen, but you're right; I am always leery of people selling self defense "secrets".

[@psommorr]

@@Msosbog His paid programs aren't bad either. I got his head movement one and he's pretty solid in explaining shit, no different than what you would see on his channel. Hell, I even use some of his shit while I'm rolling. It's worked so far.

[@anurruti]

I have the video. It is really good.

[@juantamad1662]

As with different martial art take what is useful and reject what is not

[@FunkerTactical]

Bingo!

[@jasonbihm1244]

Great video as always

[@darylfields]

Most people who attack with knives don't do it this way

[@FunkerTactical]

They don't attack you from a safe and progressive training methodology. You're absolutely right.