Korg’s Gadgets are AUv3. Mostly

[@SiEffen]

Note that the existing standalone Korg synths have yet to be updated to AUv3, so sadly as of 11 Jan 2024 the lilkes of iM1, iWavestation, ARP Odessey, iMS20 and iMony/Poly remain as IAA only, despite working as gadgets in Gadget. I mentioned Gladstone in the video however as I'd fixed the 'restore' problem prior to shooting the video I couldn't demonstrate the problem. Hence demonstrating with Santa Ana, a new gadget that I hadn't already purchased and thus it still showed the 'restore' screen!

[@EdBMetal]

I couldn’t believe my eyes either when i saw the update and saw they made the majority AUv3. Well you won’t hear me complaining 😁😁😁

[@SiEffen]

It's an amazing update. To be honest I hadn't spent much time with a lot of gadgets as I find the DAW's interface doesn't work for me that well. So to go and properly play with their synths proper is great!

[@EdBMetal]

@@SiEffen i still have some unfinished projects and ideas in Gadget that i now feel more inspired about to finish. I completed my collection with the last two and new Gadgets. This update is very good. But i still wish that Gadget could also host third party AUv3 effects in one of the IFX slots. That would have made it a perfect update imo. But it is great most of these Gadgets can now be used in other hosts. I never expected that KORG would do this, but it is a smart move since ppl will be more likely now to invest in the gadgets.

[@TheGaragebandGuide]

Great info Si, cheers!

[@SiEffen]

Thanks Patrick!

[@matthewchunk3689]

Good info!. Another great integration with Gadget is the file system. Using IOS and AudioShare to import and save files opens Gadget to a better workflow.

[@SiEffen]

Thanks for sharing!

[@3stig]

Hello Si Thanks 😊Happy new year

[@SiEffen]

Happy new year!

[@gbcraw]

Thanks, Si. I noticed some of this as well. At least some of separate Korg apps - that you purchase as stand-alone apps that then show up as differently-named apps in Gadget -- they do show up as IAA options in AUM, for example. Not perfect, not an improvement, but the base app is presumably based on an IAA framework (I guess). Howevter I can't seem to find some of the other apps, like Montreal, Alexandria, and Firenze as AUv3 options, either. Still, it's a pretty amazing free upgrade.

[@SiEffen]

Yes I've used them as IAA in the past but it's not idea especially when trying to multitrack stuff in another DAW as you can only have one instance open at a time, then freeze the audio and do the next one, hoping it doesn't fall over at every step. It will be a great day when all are offered as AUv3 though as they're some of the more iconic synths! Thanks for watching!

[@EdBMetal]

@@SiEffen it requires them to fully ‘rewrite’ those older IAA apps to become AUv3 from what i read other developers write about the process. It is not an easy or small task, so i can only expect that it might still take some time before all become available as AUv3. But according to Doug Woods i think Korg told him they are working on that.

[@SiEffen]

Yes it's a big task I believe, probably a major code rewrite. But hopefully they will as it would be nice to have those synths available. Their wording online suggests it'll happen but timescales unclear. @@EdBMetal

[@EdBMetal]

@@SiEffen yes it would ge very welcome since Apple no longer supports IAA and i see it also failing in a lot of hosts more and more.

[@kentaccordionist]

Happy new year Si.

[@SiEffen]

Happy new year Steve. Here’s hoping for a better 2024!

[@kentaccordionist]

@@SiEffen Thanks Si. Started well moved into retirement complex, nice flat. But then my Mothers husband who I used to play in a band with died. So I’m off to lancashire next week for a funeral. Hope your year had a good start.

[@PabloRodriguezwhyCharlieWhy]

I have gadget 3 on my Ipad... but I have seen some comments on You tube that I can use AUv3 on a Macbook running an M1 chip which I had, and allow me to use other AUv3 like Drambo and a few other apps that I bought on my Ipad.... usually I go to the App store and I can download and get them in my Macbook... but for some reason, I can't find Korg Gadget or a way to used in my computer... any idea regarding this?

[@SiEffen]

Some devs make their iOS apps completely universal across to the Mac but not all. I've had a few AUv3 music apps that will install on the M1 Mac (via the App Store on the Mac) but whilst they will run as standalone I can't get them working in Logic. I suspect Korg want you to buy their VSTs from their own shop.

[@sleekitwan]

No AUv3 doubt, I put Marseille into my GarageBand song…Well, holy cow. iMS i was asked inside Gadget if I wanted to install that, having it already, and on exit saw the standalone hanging around! so it just IAA. good stuff. [EDIT: Just to say, IAA is an interesting one, not without benefits…IAA means in GarageBand for example, an audiowave is recorded, instead of MIDI. This is why they’ve not done away with IAA entirely, and the benefit is, you can tweak ANY parameter while playing, and the resulting sound is recorded. Some of the results are IMPOSSIBLE to replicate with MIDI/AUv3 for example, inside GB, because the automation is what is relied upon for adjusting most parameters except the two mode wheels on the left! In short, if there’s some weird tweaking you want to record, eg of VCO 1 being altered, AU MIDI plugins in GB won’t let that be recorded, but if you switch to the IAA it will record the special sounds you wanted. They are not equivalent, and it’s automation that needs to do better, to match this IAA advantage. Just my experience, mostly in GB. No MIDI in GB, I put a ‘listening’ app to see what came out or in - GB only sends MIDI start and stop! That’s yer whack in it, which is why Cubasis has an edge.] Take care all, good times.

[@SiEffen]

Good points. I’ve recorded some tracks with lines on ARP Odyssey in Cubasis via IAA. And it does work. But you have to freeze the performance if you want to use the synth on another part. But it’s a bit flaky and I’ve found it difficult to rely on in a live set. Hopefully the synths will be updated to support AUv3 fairly soon 🤞

[@alexchanboth]

Glassglow still not support as AUV3 cant find it in Cubasis3

[@SiEffen]

I believe Glasgow is the gadget name for Korg Module. If you've got Module you'll find that available as an auv3 in Cubasis.

[@M1chel1966]

According to the Korg website, by purchasing the Korg gadget 3 for $39.95, I get 20 modules out of the 45 available. My question is: How much will it cost me to be able to obtain all 45 modules?

[@SiEffen]

A couple of points to bear in mind: - the Gadgets that are IAPs are all listed out on the app store so you can see if they're ones you would use or not. - Korgs big synths (iM1, iMono/Poly, iWavestation, Odyssei, Electribe Wave, Module) integrate with Gadget but aren't themselves Gadgets, although to confuse matters they have different names within Gadget (!!). You purchase these as separate apps outside of Gadget; currently only iM1, Module and Electribe Wave are auv3 (the others are IAA if you want to use them in other DAWs). These synths tend to be $30 each ($15 on sale). - It's well worth keeping an eye on the sales as Gadget itself regularly drops to half price and the IAPs drom from $15 to $10 each so you'll save a lot.

[@M1chel1966]

@@SiEffen Thanks

[@SiEffen]

@@M1chel1966 FYI it looks like Korg are having a sale on their apps

[@M1chel1966]

​@@SiEffen Yes, indeed, a slight price drop. But I'm still going to wait until Blackfriday to make a decision, knowing that there will probably be other offers too. I mainly make my music on PC, but on the iPad, it would be more for entertainment purposes. This is why the total price puts me off slightly.

[@wignallyt]

You are too far off mic. Good vid though. Thank you.

[@SiEffen]

Cheers, yes volume is a bit lower than ideal. Thanks for watching!