Kratos reminisce over the boat captain in Valhalla - God of War Ragnarok: Valhalla DLC

[@el_choro_pistola123]

"the hydra was just an animal. I showd him what a true monster looked like" *DAMN*

[@doomrage2012]

Humans are sometimes monster, yeah I can relate

[@thetest8777]

Humans are something when they feel nothing left inside.

[@MyShiroyuki]

No animal treats their own as cruelly as humans. Many are cruel but they don’t understand what they do is cruel. Humans are the only ones who treat other humans terribly while perfectly understanding why such actions are cruel.

[@sakaiclips]

Right that’s heavy

[@o7Bones]

​@MyShiroyuki there's a case to be made with chimps who actively murder apes, dolphins who hunt whale babies just to eat their tongues and a few others but I still think humans are capable of even greater cruelty towards their own. only we would come up with White Room Solitary Confinement. literal Deprivation of Colors and Sounds.

[@gavinlamp5426]

The Boat Captain. The Wilhelm Scream of the franchise.

[@michaelcrutcher6064]

Why did this made me laugh 🤣🤣

[@anitabonghit7606]

Its even funnier when you realize I think he was the same VA that does plankton on SpongeBob

[@myspot8579]

It’s funny how a joke to the viewers can actually be a character’s greatest regret.

[@StareachValcin]

It is something Kratos regrets, but it isn't his greatest regret.

[@anthonytaylor9373]

​@sircumsalot3604calliope has left the chat

[@spinozilla2421]

would be funny they had joke ending of that Kratos biggest regret was being dick the Boat Captain

[@latinalover26]

​@@anthonytaylor9373holoen

[@Force-Multiplier]

Greatest is an exaggeration typical GoW fan all drama imagine comparing *killing your own daughter* to killing a random stranger 💀

[@Darksaviour]

Mimir: If you saw this boat Captain again in the after life would you save him this time Kratos: Well about that Mimir: Wait, don’t tell me you did meet him in the afterlife and killed him again. Kratos: Twice Actually Mimir: What the fuck brother

[@HaMaNezam]

😂😂

[@mufasa9910]

BRUH

[@Darksaviour]

@@mufasa9910 Greek Kratos really was just an asshole

[@rainbowdash4898]

Every franchise needs a bit. For SpongeBob it was My Leg guy, for Avatar has My Cabbages. Kraitos knew it had to be done.

[@lovelace9638]

Hearing what the fuck brother in Mimir's voice is just hysterical 😂.

[@danieldickson8591]

That captain's death has always stayed in my mind as the most petty, pointlessly cruel thing Kratos ever did. It's healthy for Kratos to see it that way now, too.

[@futurevegan8617]

I'm not sure... That consort of Poseidon's was a pretty nasty thing. She was dragged into like a gear wheel and used as a doorstop.

[@shiroamakusa8075]

@@futurevegan8617 Even if that was cruel, it served a practical purpose. Murdering the boat captain served none.

[@futurevegan8617]

@@shiroamakusa8075 I agree that it served a practical purpose, but only if we're limiting ourselves to video game logic... There were plenty of items that Kratos could have tossed in there to jam up the mechanism. Even if the enemies gigantic hammers do disappear because they were summoned by magic, you could throw enough pots in there to jam it up just by the sheer volume of ceramic dust that got slipped into the rails or whatever. Not to mention candle holders, the chains that the girl was wearing, a brick from the wall, anything but a squishy mortal woman.

[@bojngsrll8644]

​@@shiroamakusa8075he's coward, Spartan hated coward

[@AlmeaCulpa]

Wasn't there some guy in a thorn prison that Kratos murdered just because? I vaguely remember something like that.

[@dragonicdoom3772]

I love how the whole theme of this DLC wasn't forgiving Kratos for his actions or excusing them, simply explaining them and showing himself and us that things are never cut and dry. It's about Kratos accepting who he was, both the good and the bad, and allowing himself to move on.

[@daviyo5]

This Is basically GOW: Ragnarok - Kratos's therapy

[@bandawin18]

Most elaborate therapy session for one of the most powerful beings in that universe

[@MrIndiemusic101]

They really needed to bring up Posiden's abused Princess being impaled to be used a door stop and then subsequently crushed in GOW3 then. That was probably the most fucked up murder of an innocent done in the old GOW game. Like it was just so unecessary. Both the act itself and how the scenario was presented also in the game too. It was definitely one of those edgy for the sake of being edgy things than actually adding anything of substance.

[@bandawin18]

@@MrIndiemusic101 we got to see some booba though, we also got to kick puppies at the same time 🗿

[@CrzyWzrd4L]

@@MrIndiemusic101They did. It’s in the Poseidon’s Lover dialogue

[@shadowwarrior3444]

This is a good scene, the fact that, even though Valhalla shows the complexity of Kratos's past and the fact that many of his atrocities were caused by either the gods' manipulations or collateral in the pursuit of his revenge, memories of the boat captain, and Poseidon's lover, are a reminder that Kratos was no better than his enemies and was just as callous. They did nothing to him, they were not warriors. They were average people stuck in a terrifying world with monsters and deities that could kill them in a flash, and Kratos couldn't be bothered to show even an inch of mercy for them, and for what?

[@EpicMorgana32]

do know where i could find the scene of him talking about poseidons lover. im very curous how that goes

[@leobatista2472]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@zylin2139]

​@@EpicMorgana32i cant remember clearly but i think it happened around Hera's garden in GOW 3.

[@EpicMorgana32]

@@zylin2139 wait he talks about poseidoms lover in god of war 3? arent we talkin about the lady kratos used as a support weight for a wheel that killed her in 3

[@zylin2139]

@@EpicMorgana32That lady is poseidon lover.

[@Garrus1995]

“Ah, yes…the story of your fight with the three-headed sea serpent.” “Bro, it had way more than 3 heads.”

[@darryllee1808]

Heracles: Am I a joke to you?

[@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite]

Kratos fought three heads in the final.section of the level.

[@MrDibara]

Bruh, did the devs misremember THAT MUCH?! 🤦‍♂️

[@robinanwaldt]

In the myth it had more heads, but in GOW1 it only had three.

[@robinanwaldt]

@@MrDibaraNope, they didn’t.

[@TaggedByTim]

One thing i love about Kratos is how he tells his stories exactly as they happened. No, omission of details, or anything to try and justify/ lessen the blow of his misdeeds.

[@LinkinMark1994]

@@Omar6Sno, THOSE women were on Kratos’ own boat, not the captain’s

[@voidmonger3831]

@@LinkinMark1994 Okay I had always wondered about that actually. One scene we were shown the people were all killed and then the next he has the two women on his bed. I always thought it was maybe survivors he found, but knowing they were women on his own boat makes a lot more sense.

[@alphaomega6540]

He kinda did omitted a lot when he told about Pandora and hepastus story in the base game

[@dalgusmaximus4557]

​@@alphaomega6540not to mention the entirety of God of war 2018 blue balling us. Never once does calliope, kratos' dead daughter WHO HE KILLED' ever get mentioned in this story about a father and his child...

[@ShadowGaming42069]

The women were dead by the time I reached them.

[@brandenhauser1635]

Man. I sometimes forget how much of a monster Kratos used to be. I can't even think of one character anywhere in fiction that had such a drastic change and even regreted their past actions or reflected on them this much.

[@basimali619]

The change is anything but drastic, I’ve heard people say about 800-1000 years had passed between gow 3 and gow 4. If that is a stretch, then at least 2 or 3 centuries.

[@jimmybrooks5902]

Crime and Punishement? Dostoyevski for all the deep psychoanalysis of conciousness if you're into that.

[@danieldickson8591]

@@basimali619 "Drastic" doesn't automatically mean "rapid." Kratos is a vastly different man here than who he was during the Greek GOW series. How long it took to get him here is beside the point.

[@basimali619]

@@danieldickson8591 it means to have an extreme effect, which still works in what I was saying

[@iBeatBoxz8]

Vegeta?

[@dragonson04]

"And, that was not the last time I saw him..."

[@rzhecheah4114]

yeah... about that

[@Indigoism96]

Bro was killed again by Kratos in the underworld by getting kicked into the Styx lmao.

[@raziel6304]

@@Indigoism96 and then killed again in the second game when the Barbarian king summoned him as a ghost.

[@StareachValcin]

Even now, what Kratos did to that boat captain is still a regret that lingers.

[@sg276556]

Well done, showing the story of the ship captain, while Kratos was explaining in the background was a good edit.😊

[@Fiftytwotop5]

Yes we he should do more he definitely would blow up

[@baldomiropoopito812]

Blades of Chaos: I'm gonna follow you wherever you go Kratos. Boat Captain: Yeah what he said.

[@real_Hamilton]

Yeah that was truly an asshole move by Kratos. He could have EASILY lifted the man up and saved him. I think that was just the writer's way of letting us know right off the bat that Kratos is no hero. But he's come a long way since those greek days

[@siddharthverma1249]

He even kills him in hell just because

[@pranayravi9449]

Well if he had lifted him up, the captian would have to be escorted out of the hydra's mouth after which he would again be in danger of dying. Kratos just ended his misery.

[@knell18897]

@@pranayravi9449 but then again, Kratos has already lifted him up from the ledge. It would cost him nothing to just leave him there, instead he threw the man down to his death.

[@CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi]

the confusing thing about the captain is that the game lowkey let on that he trapped those women in that room, given how they screamed for Kratos to find the key to the room.

[@56bturn]

Maybe, but at that point, the captain had a chance, even if unprotected, with the monster dead and most of the undead slain. @@pranayravi9449

[@hansalanson3497]

This is basically a slap in the wrist by the writers for people who are adamant in the idea that "Young Kratos is not to be blamed for the person he is, the gods were cruel on him".

[@astralchaos3441]

I mean they were cruel

[@fortunefiderikumo]

​@astralchaos3441 yes but this shows that Kratos was a horrible human by himself

[@astralchaos3441]

@@fortunefiderikumo I mean Yeah but why he's so horrible in the First place is bc of the Gods. If at that point he wasn't in service to the Gods for a whole decade, being lied to each time he would do something for them, he would more likely have saved Him.

[@hansalanson3497]

@@astralchaos3441 Nah, see the segments talking about Lysandra, Kratos himself acknowledged that he had been a sh*t person even before his desperate servitude to Ares and facing all that ugly stuff, and no, Deimos being taken from such a young age from him has nothing to do with it. Gotta stop excusing the man when he himself had so explicitly said that "he cannot hide behind his vengeance"...

[@astralchaos3441]

@@hansalanson3497 I'm not excusing Kratos, obviously he wasn't a good person but a huge reason for why that was in the First Place was bc of the Gods. And why would the loss of Deimos have nothing do with it? GoW Ghost of Sparta tells us that it affected him a lot. Not really saying that it was the main reason but why would it not have anything to with it?

[@azimnazlen8564]

"Casually Cruel", is a strong description of Kratos's past life.

[@JYang0602]

I actually find this dialogue interesting in Valhalla. That on Kratos’ journey through Vengeance, the Boat Captain left the biggest impact. A needless and pointless death that could’ve been avoided. This also goes for the needless /pointless deaths at Kratos’ hands in God of War 3 like the lady stuck in the door contraption or when Kratos was scaling the side of a building and through that civilian off out of his way. The Captain marked the true start of the cost of vengeance for nothing

[@NinjapowerMS]

It wasnt. Saving that captain would put unnecessary things on his plate never mind protecting the captain why stop at just him? There's also multiple sailors there that needed Help and Kratos isn’t a modern super hero he lives in a dog eat dog world. The lady also was a needed sacrifice to open the door otherwise he wouldn't have been able to progress. Now I'm not saying Kratos is the pope or anything but let's stop pretending Kratos went out of his way to be specifically be a D. He sacrificed everything that could potentially help him in his way in pursuit of vengeance.

[@spiderrocket8367]

@@NinjapowerMS he didn't have to protect the captain though he could have helped him up and gone on his way. He intentionally threw the bit a captain down simply just because he could and Posideons Princess coukdmhave been avoided he could have grabbed one of the thousands of mooksor dogs and used them in the same way but he instead used an innocent woman who was just as much a victim of the Gods a he was. Kratos was a nuanced character to a point but you acting like he wasn't a selfish piece of ship who is on the record as having murdered just as many who were not deserving of his blade is a bit concerning

[@vaerrik1082]

@@NinjapowerMS bruh he 100% went out of his way to be a dick. There where so many instances where he said fuck it and just killed random ass people. Young Kratos only cared about himself and his revenge, and being in his general vicinity probably meant you where going to get killed for literally no reason. Whenever there were civilians running around, you could kill them for xp and healing. Which the vast majority of players did. Young Kratos was a complete asshole, and while the gods deserved the shit kicking he gave them, everyone else didn't. Especially Posideon's princess, who just existed. But she said something mean to him, so I guess she deserves to die.

[@NinjapowerMS]

@@vaerrik1082 He doesn't kill to be a D though. He kills them because it grants him health or currency which in turns gives him more vengeance power. It's like an animal attacking humans it's not being a D it's just doing it to survive. As for the poseidon princess there's literally no way to progress. She was a necessary sacrifice and doesn't help that enemies there despawn when they get beaten. Saying he's a D implies he's going out of his way to mess with people for his own amusement which he doesn't it's usually because it helps him in overcome that situation.

[@thegemguy1334]

The thing is, the captain had nothing to do with his path for vengeance at all. Kratos was doing a quest for the Olympian Gods. And the quest was to kill a sea monster, not Ares.

[@__shubham__]

*Hydra was just an animal. I showed him what a true monster looked like.*

[@spiderrocket8367]

1:54 and that's why this act is so important this was the first act we saw Kratos do that showed just how much of a awful person he was back then when we first met him. It shows how far he has come and regrets a good many of his actions

[@MR_Edits03]

Man, to hear Kratos so remorseful for something like this is beautiful, if not depressing. When he can’t even give a good answer as to why he did it at 2:00 is heartbreaking. You can hear his guilt and remorse. It makes you think, about how many of those memories he holds. How many people stick with him like that? It’s terrifying when you think about it.

[@markhunter3533]

And don't leave out you doomed him more than once.

[@jvoz671]

"Kratos? You wore.... a cow costume in your past?" "That... I don't want to talk about it."

[@JoninJordan]

He's confessing to shit that still plagues his conscience today, and THAT'S the one that hits too close to home 😂

[@13Ryuga]

This does it.. Best character in the gaming history - Self reflection and accepting the actions. I haven't seen anyone do this

[@Smllc22318]

Amen. Great comment

[@saviomatheus9597]

Arthur morgan ?

[@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr]

Don’t forget about Marcus from gears of war has a similar redemption arc

[@risottonero4501]

Arthur

[@13Ryuga]

@@saviomatheus9597 yes Arthur and marucs did have one.. But If you see what kratos has gone through and what he's done. It just outweighs the rest.

[@asmara9779]

Imagine enter Valhalla, and the captain is just chilling there

[@abdulazimnaushad]

Hmm he says: "Oh! It’s you…uh hi been a while I guess, what do I say?…hmm did u kill some poor soul on a whim again? Hmm (looks at Mimir)…what did you do? Stay back…. Kratos: No! I won’t hurt you or kill you again… Boat Captain: GO AWAY (screaming)

[@BowserisOK]

When I was a kid, I remember how badass Kratos was, but then there were moments I had to question why would Kratos be so cruel. The ship captain would always be in my mind, especially when I imagined Kratos to be an avenging hero, only for part of that idea to slip away when he let that ship captain die. My mind was like "Why Kratos? He was innocent and you killed him for no reason!" Again and again he treated the ship captain like an object that's in his way rather than a human being. Hell I even tried to avoid attacking him when fighting the barbarian king in GOW2. In the past, I've complained about Kratos being a pacifist loser in God of War PS4, but this moment in the DLC and Ragnarok made me accept Kratos on what he's trying to become.

[@RileyWritey]

It's strange to me how many fans - men, particularly - criticise the new Kratos for being much more reflective and thoughtful about his actions. I have to wonder if it's an insecurity thing or a maturity thing, because Kratos' development is something that resonates with me and I'm only in my 20s let alone 40 or 50.

[@Diamond_2403]

​@@RileyWritey I guess it has to do with Kratos at the time being mostly seen as this cool badass angry god killer. Seeing Kratos be remorseful and regretful of the things he's done was a massive new take on his character, one that was a very good choice.

[@bsgfan1]

I wish they told the whole story: it’s not that Kratos killed him, it’s that he killed him _several_ times. Kratos: “That is not the end of his story. A few days later, I encountered him again in Hades. I kicked him into the river Styx. Even in death, I refused a second chance to help him. Years later, I encountered a resurrected Alruik (the barbarian king) who could summon dead souls to aid him in battle. One of those souls was the boat captain. He did not try to fight me, yet I slew him once again. I have caused so much suffering to this one man that he did not deserve.” Edit: No, I didn’t make that last part up. The boat captain really does appear in GoW II as an enemy. There’s even a short cutscene for it. And like I said, he doesn’t try to fight you, but he dies (again) if you either kill him for health or when you kill Alruik.

[@vardiganxpl1698]

Honestly, I understand how tragic and sad the Boat Captain went through, I also can't help but laugh at how many times he was killed in the original series

[@koona1992]

Dont forget how in God of War 3, in the underworld of hades, there are notes from a torutured soul, that being the same boat captain who writes about how kratos held his life in his hands and left him to die, funny how all 3 games reflect this boat captain, seems it really does understand how evil Kratos was to him.

[@NastyfoxChannel]

He even says "Oh, not you again"

[@joshuakeely5593]

Yes we know it was a running gag.

[@Poussyeater-w5e]

I mean, wasn't the captain some corrupt fiend anyway? Didn't he hold those women captive on his boat? If he was a corrupt scumbag then maybe Kratos' actions weren't so bad

[@MilitaristTurkcu]

Damn. It sucks seeing how something ages ago can still torment Kratos. I hope he gets the peace he deserves

[@luorca5686]

The legendary ship captain from 1-3 until reminiscent in 2018-ragnarok. He reminds me of the cabbage merchant in avatar last airbender.😂

[@aminhaekal5709]

_"I didnt come back for you."_

[@Demonofdeathvally25]

I always thought that was one of the most fucked up things Kratos ever did; up there with using that slave girl to hold a wheel and killing his family. I’m happy they referenced it at great length and that Kratos shows unfathomable remorse

[@captainrev4959]

Poseidon’s princess was the closest thing on hand, and he didn’t care about her life. He killed his family because he didn’t know they were his family. but with the captain, there was no reason or excuse he simply did it, because he had the opportunity.

[@verdegaban1615]

​@@captainrev4959Poseidon's princess was still an unnecessary death. He could've just used the corpse of one of the monsters as support of the handle and it would've worked better.

[@sleshstamp]

I'm glad they brought this up again as Kratos wrote about this in the base game, too. It was just one of those things that was put there to be 'badass' and show that he was a cool anti-hero at the time, but it was one of Kratos' lowest moments. Such casual cruelty for no purpose at all. It should bother him.

[@Nwakanma1]

Imagine we see the boat captain in a future game and Kratos is actually hyped to save him this time.

[@quincybansa9115]

i love how kratos looks back and trys to be better 😊

[@filipvadas7602]

I love that they acknowledged that, even though Kratos's revenge on the gods was justified, his brazen and casual slaughter of innocents along the way *was not* The boat captain is just one of many who's lives Kratos ended for no reason.

[@gamingblazio]

The Video on the side from GOW 1 is such a great touch. Amazing Job

[@gray5482]

So, we aren't going to talk about when kratos died the first time that he did it yet again to the same guy by casually stabbing him in the back as he was holding on for dear life and kicked him to the River of Styx?

[@destoroyahofhope4005]

And then again when he was summoned by the Barbarian King in GoW2?

[@MortalGod100]

The thing is, Kratos not only killed the captain, when in the first game he climbs out of hades, he meets the captain who was doing the same and kratos only didnt fall further into hades, because he caught on to the man. He stabbed him with the blades of chaos, climbed on him and pushed him dow into the abyss. GoW 2: When you fight the barbarian king boss, after the 2nd phase the barbarian boss summons the souls of the dead, one of them is the boat captain. To no one surprise, you kill him AGAIN. GoW 3: When you are trying to get out of hades AGAIN, you encounter the boatmans soul the last time when hades finally absorbs him for good. At least u didnt erase his existence there.

[@The-Deadite]

Boat captain doesnt appear in GOW 3 tho, you can find a note of him but thats it.

[@thetest8777]

He's a lost soul

[@davide7039]

"The hydra was just an animal. I showed him what a true monster looked like." ✍🔥🔥🔥

[@atomicskull6405]

What Kratos is leaving out is that he killed him two more times.

[@godsplayingfield]

the fact he didnt mention that he "killed" the captain not once, not twice... BUT THREE TIMES as well. the initial Hydra fiasco, falling to Hades in the same game and then the captain was summoned by the zombied barbarian king in GoW2. then there are the references to him in 3, 2018, and now here. the captain is almost like a literal ghost to Kratos at this point that will never stop haunting him.

[@Notwatchme]

finally kratos went to therapy

[@kienphucnguyen2001]

1:31 damn man. Kratos gives no chill 2:03 i like how the dlc gave him a solid “why” he did that 2:29 kratos was the true monster

[@swapnilshrivastava1007]

Kratos met ship captain 3 times - 1. God of war 1 - Hydra Fight 2. God of war 1 - When kratos falling in styx river, he catches the same captain. 3. God of war 2 - When Fighting the Barbarian King , he summoned the soul of same captain.

[@TheGreatTocino]

His voice can be heard in God of War 3.

[@randomanonymousperson7582]

I would totally love to see him talk more about the people he's killed. In particular, I would like to see him talk about Poseidon's Princess.

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

I imagine the act sickens him so much to recount that he doesn't bother.

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

Props to the writers for making Kratos so unlikeable and cruel in the first three games, to make the payoff here so satisfying.

[@ezetram774]

I’ve heard rumblings of a god of war 1 remake 🙏🏾

[@BobExcalibur]

No, too problematic for modern Sony.

[@Keggsy19]

Fun fact, there's a side quest in God of War (2018) that involves a dude escaping after the boat captain dies in the Hydra, and he sails to the norse world and gets shipwrecked on the Lake of the Nine

[@eroanime8577]

The captain when meet kratos again : Not you Again

[@colored433]

I loved the edit of the boat captain on the screen 😂

[@Orochi2345678]

This is personally my favorite recollection during the DLC. Because unlike other memories Kratos has this is one where you genuinely can’t call it anything other than casual cruelty for the sake of it. The effects of it on anyone else are pretty much nonexistent. It doesn’t cause other deaths or drench the land of Greece in horrible weather. It’s one man who is affected, but Kratos knew the totality of what he was doing at the time, didn’t need to kill the man, and had more than enough power to save him.

[@malachibanks6357]

I love how when Kratos was young he was cruel and unwise and consumed with vengeance. But when he got older he became passionate and left with scars and regrets.

[@MrSw3rls]

"i killed him needlessly, and then damned him to a deeper pit of hell over the course of multiple games"

[@Goddamnitiwantaname]

"...and I met him later in the afterlife and kicked him into the fires of Hades. But that is neither here nor there."

[@vegapreferred9344]

I remember people hated the new Kratos cuz he was so guilty of his past trying to change. Yet people fail to realize evolution exist

[@BobExcalibur]

The problem is when drastic shifts in character happen off screen and thereby feel unearned. Stuff like what the Star Wars sequels did to Luke; changes in a character are fine as long as we can follow them through that change. Dad Of Boy did a drastic shift of character without earning it on-screen, and what's more just kept that changed character stagnant in the new form they invented.

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Mimir (after hearing this : is there a God in any pantheon for therapy ? Seriously anyone ?

[@cindadimaggio6679]

I find it hilarious that even in death the boat captain couldn’t get away from Kratos 💀

[@joed.5778]

I’m surprised it didn’t mention the time he killed Poseidon’s slave princess so brutally just to get through a door.

[@richard2461956]

Mimir: may he find peace in the afterlife. Kratos: Actually...

[@carbodude5414]

And even that pales in comparison to what he did to Poseidon's prisoner in GoW 3

[@amazingle7431]

wow the boat captain was just one of those "minor characters" he slaughtered during his past, but now everything he did come back and haunt him.

[@spear8403]

those last sentences were cold as fuck

[@The-last-1]

I love how he just kinda forgot about the time he saw him in the underworld

[@MrScaryPasta]

Don’t forget to mention in canon you killed him again for a second time Kratos.

[@Mr.CompleteScales333]

If they had brought him back all we would hear him say the famous line; NOT YOU AGAIN!!!!

[@skippyjones4254]

It’s honestly crazy that David Jaffe hates this take on Kratos, and would genuinely prefer if he just kept on being that same angry killer who wouldn’t think twice about throwing someone to their death

[@FierceDeity35]

David Jaffe can't even get through the first hour of a Metroid game... how did anyone take him seriously to begin with? I mean, have you even SEEN God of war 2?! What a joke.

[@trollmaster4523]

A wise person once said: *"True strength and wisdom comes from facing your mistakes, shortcomings and past sins, learning from them. No one is perfect and thats a good thing as seeing a person refine and improve themselves day by day is one of the most beautiful things to see."* Something Modern Disney and social media fails to see.

[@gawrik3000]

The Boat Captain. The only person, who was killed by Kratos 3 times.

[@brooklynkeith2877]

Its seems that kratos taught the boat captain the lesson that is evil is terrifying becuase its dosnt look like a hydra, evil is terrifying becuase it looks exactly how your fellow man looks.

[@mjkhan9664]

I love what this DLC does for his character and showcasing his growth. Really highlights that there is much he thought about and regretted even if at the past moment it didnt seem like it

[@malachibanks6357]

Kratos story is so deep.

[@joshuaguste6883]

This echoes back to the boss fight with Ares when he told Kratos he had no idea what a true monster was.

[@abdulazimnaushad]

It’s funny how Kratos decides to let the boat captain who did not even try threatening him die on a whim but offered a chance at mercy fr the half siblings that tried to kill him and stood in his way.

[@ZonnexNecton]

“Then I saw the Boat Captain again and killed him again because reasons.”

[@TriumphantChadwick]

“You again?!” 😂

[@undeadinside3571]

And then he Killed him again in hell in the same game, and killed his ghost in the next game

[@anikaitrai5232]

Ares to kratos: you have no ideas what a true monster is kratos Kratos to hydra: you have no idea what a true monster is hydra (Just a god of war thing)

[@JordanSmith-yi3ji]

Kratos: It got... strange when he kept reappearing in my journey. Typically when I was sent to Hades for one reason or another.

[@fanficlover]

Dang, they actually delved into the boat captain scene. I was alwaya wondering about that and wondering why Kratos did what he did.

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

To say nothing of what happened when Kratos met the man again in Hades, or when he was temporarily revived in GoW2 during a boss fight. The dude genuinely couldn't catch a break, even in death.

[@Diamond_2403]

I love how Kratos purposefully leaves out the fact he killed him two other times. The second time in the Underworld and third when he was resurrected 😂

[@tungpham4846]

Mimir: Why don't you just use your sword or magic to break the door brother? It's faster that way. Kratos: ...

[@professorcmajor3108]

what's even worse is that i remember you meet him again in hell and he managed to catch a cliff instead of falling into the fires of hell and yet again meeting Kratos, was then thrown into the depths of hell despite gaining the chance to escape

[@fumarc4501]

I’ll never forget that scene. I had actually hoped that Kratos would save him… when he didn’t, I was disappointed in him. Then it happened again… twice. And I take some hope in knowing that the souls of the Underworld were freed after Kratos killed Hades.

[@jdrvargo287]

They weren't "freed" the Greek underworld is not hell, it's a resting place (a gloomy resting place, but still a resting place). By killing Hades he denied them peace and doomed them all to become those wraiths he fought throughout the original games.

[@lolbitandftfoxysayhello6262]

@@jdrvargo287so even when they don’t meet kratos still finds a way to ruins the captains life

[@S117M4sterChief]

And then Kratos killed him again in Hell, and *again* when the Barbarian King summoned him on the Island of the Sisters of Fate

[@ScarletSpectacles]

What's really messed up is the fact that Kratos killed the captain three times. Once with the hydra. Twice in Hades by throwing him into the river sticks. And thrice during the barbarian boss fight in GOW2 where the captain was summoned as a spirit. There's even a letter in GOW3 from the captain detailing how he hates Kratos for his suffering. Kratos did that man dirtier than anybody he came across.

[@SpottedHares]

Disappointed that they cut out when Kratos died and fell to Hades he manged to grab on to the very same boat captain who had grabbed onto a ledge. And again Kratos showed no mercy to to man who did nothing wrong and again threw him to his terrible fate.

[@benderisgreat95able]

The boat captain is a story of Kratos becoming what he sought to destroy.

[@afaiyh7069]

The last time Qoute Boat captain "NOT YOU AGAIN" 😂

[@CGPTrainer]

The flashback is a nice touch

[@yezki8]

It not just hit Kratos, but us the old GoW fans as well. I remember i laugh at that part, and the part when we let him fall to Hades, and the part where we killed him again in GoW 2 We're truly monsters huh?

[@xDeadlyWarriorX]

Kratos is becoming a Stoic bro lma

[@rdr.erased]

Love that last line, hate when people call a bad person an animal.

[@RuSosan]

It's tribalism 101. Perceived evils get dehumanized and "othered" so that the judging humans get to keep pretending that absolutely barbaric savagery isn't in our nature. And that they don't carry some of that with them.

[@axlmdy3964]

"The women are dead by the time I reach them"....I'm pretty sure we all press "O" button.

[@dannyleo5787]

Kratos as of now compared to then is… phenomenal. When he was back in his lands he had no one to talk with, only scheming gods and a promise of pleasant dreams to go on. Naturally with time with those gods would drive any to such depravitys that no one would be safe. Yet here, once he learned of these lands, it took a woman named Faye to finally begin his healing. Having atreaus along with personal journeys as well as befriending mimir, you can see it clear as day, he’s even has tyr a god of WAR aiding kratos for what he truly needed. He has more than deserve this outcome.

[@jpedraza17]

I showed him what a true monster looked like

[@Aqua311]

I still can't believe he left out the part about seeing the captain again in Hades.

[@goku262002]

If you notice Valhalla is only focusing mainly around the first game and then the second and third game are being mentioned offhand.

[@Aqua311]

@@goku262002 Hardly. The massive chain, the statues and of course Helios are mostly references to the third game. By the way, the part I mentioned was in the first game. After Ares killed Kratos from miles away, he fell into the underworld but he stopped himself by grabbing onto the boat captain, before kicking him to his doom, again.

[@Aqua311]

@Tiki_boom Everyone ends up in the Underworld in Greece. Then you get judged over whether you go to paradise or Tartarus.

[@GinamosWithCherryOnTop]

Boat captain was maltreated by kratos more than once.

[@unchartedrocks1]

What a great extension to past GOW games

[@kaoru288]

I can just imagine how it wouldve been so simple to show kratos saving the boat captain in a 20 second cutscene,just pull him out there, fall on the ship, the captain says "thank you" and runs away