Kratos reminisce over the boat captain in Valhalla - God of War Ragnarok: Valhalla DLC

[@myspot8579]

It’s funny how a joke to the viewers can actually be a character’s greatest regret.

[@StareachValcin]

It is something Kratos regrets, but it isn't his greatest regret.

[@anthonytaylor9373]

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[@spinozilla2421]

would be funny they had joke ending of that Kratos biggest regret was being dick the Boat Captain

[@latinalover26]

​@@anthonytaylor9373holoen

[@Force-Multiplier]

Greatest is an exaggeration typical GoW fan all drama imagine comparing *killing your own daughter* to killing a random stranger 💀

[@gavinlamp5426]

The Boat Captain. The Wilhelm Scream of the franchise.

[@michaelcrutcher6064]

Why did this made me laugh 🤣🤣

[@anitabonghit7606]

Its even funnier when you realize I think he was the same VA that does plankton on SpongeBob

[@el_choro_pistola123]

"the hydra was just an animal. I showd him what a true monster looked like" *DAMN*

[@doomrage2012]

Humans are sometimes monster, yeah I can relate

[@thetest8777]

Humans are something when they feel nothing left inside.

[@MyShiroyuki]

No animal treats their own as cruelly as humans. Many are cruel but they don’t understand what they do is cruel. Humans are the only ones who treat other humans terribly while perfectly understanding why such actions are cruel.

[@sakaiclips]

Right that’s heavy

[@o7freedom]

​@MyShiroyuki there's a case to be made with chimps who actively murder apes, dolphins who hunt whale babies just to eat their tongues and a few others but I still think humans are capable of even greater cruelty towards their own. only we would come up with White Room Solitary Confinement. literal Deprivation of Colors and Sounds.

[@brandenhauser1635]

Man. I sometimes forget how much of a monster Kratos used to be. I can't even think of one character anywhere in fiction that had such a drastic change and even regreted their past actions or reflected on them this much.

[@basimali619]

The change is anything but drastic, I’ve heard people say about 800-1000 years had passed between gow 3 and gow 4. If that is a stretch, then at least 2 or 3 centuries.

[@jimmybrooks5902]

Crime and Punishement? Dostoyevski for all the deep psychoanalysis of conciousness if you're into that.

[@danieldickson8591]

@@basimali619 "Drastic" doesn't automatically mean "rapid." Kratos is a vastly different man here than who he was during the Greek GOW series. How long it took to get him here is beside the point.

[@basimali619]

@@danieldickson8591 it means to have an extreme effect, which still works in what I was saying

[@iBeatBoxz8]

Vegeta?

[@StareachValcin]

Even now, what Kratos did to that boat captain is still a regret that lingers.

[@dragonson04]

"And, that was not the last time I saw him..."

[@rzhecheah4114]

yeah... about that

[@Indigoism96]

Bro was killed again by Kratos in the underworld by getting kicked into the Styx lmao.

[@raziel6304]

@@Indigoism96 and then killed again in the second game when the Barbarian king summoned him as a ghost.

[@spiderrocket8367]

1:54 and that's why this act is so important this was the first act we saw Kratos do that showed just how much of a awful person he was back then when we first met him. It shows how far he has come and regrets a good many of his actions

[@bsgfan1]

I wish they told the whole story: it’s not that Kratos killed him, it’s that he killed him _several_ times. Kratos: “That is not the end of his story. A few days later, I encountered him again in Hades. I kicked him into the river Styx. Even in death, I refused a second chance to help him. Years later, I encountered a resurrected Alruik (the barbarian king) who could summon dead souls to aid him in battle. One of those souls was the boat captain. He did not try to fight me, yet I slew him once again. I have caused so much suffering to this one man that he did not deserve.” Edit: No, I didn’t make that last part up. The boat captain really does appear in GoW II as an enemy. There’s even a short cutscene for it. And like I said, he doesn’t try to fight you, but he dies (again) if you either kill him for health or when you kill Alruik.

[@vardiganxpl1698]

Honestly, I understand how tragic and sad the Boat Captain went through, I also can't help but laugh at how many times he was killed in the original series

[@koona1992]

Dont forget how in God of War 3, in the underworld of hades, there are notes from a torutured soul, that being the same boat captain who writes about how kratos held his life in his hands and left him to die, funny how all 3 games reflect this boat captain, seems it really does understand how evil Kratos was to him.

[@NastyfoxChannel]

He even says "Oh, not you again"

[@joshuakeely5593]

Yes we know it was a running gag.

[@Poussyeater-w5e]

I mean, wasn't the captain some corrupt fiend anyway? Didn't he hold those women captive on his boat? If he was a corrupt scumbag then maybe Kratos' actions weren't so bad

[@kaz7690]

This DLC is such an amazing way of self reflecting on stories made over a decade back. The way storytelling is perceived has changed so much in the past decade and Santa Monica did a brilliant job making everything from the old GoW games seem meaningful

[@MilitaristTurkcu]

Damn. It sucks seeing how something ages ago can still torment Kratos. I hope he gets the peace he deserves

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Mimir (after hearing this : is there a God in any pantheon for therapy ? Seriously anyone ?

[@Demonofdeathvally25]

I always thought that was one of the most fucked up things Kratos ever did; up there with using that slave girl to hold a wheel and killing his family. I’m happy they referenced it at great length and that Kratos shows unfathomable remorse

[@captainrev4959]

Poseidon’s princess was the closest thing on hand, and he didn’t care about her life. He killed his family because he didn’t know they were his family. but with the captain, there was no reason or excuse he simply did it, because he had the opportunity.

[@verdegaban1615]

​@@captainrev4959Poseidon's princess was still an unnecessary death. He could've just used the corpse of one of the monsters as support of the handle and it would've worked better.

[@Nwakanma1]

Imagine we see the boat captain in a future game and Kratos is actually hyped to save him this time.

[@vegapreferred9344]

I remember people hated the new Kratos cuz he was so guilty of his past trying to change. Yet people fail to realize evolution exist

[@BobExcalibur]

The problem is when drastic shifts in character happen off screen and thereby feel unearned. Stuff like what the Star Wars sequels did to Luke; changes in a character are fine as long as we can follow them through that change. Dad Of Boy did a drastic shift of character without earning it on-screen, and what's more just kept that changed character stagnant in the new form they invented.

[@sleshstamp]

I'm glad they brought this up again as Kratos wrote about this in the base game, too. It was just one of those things that was put there to be 'badass' and show that he was a cool anti-hero at the time, but it was one of Kratos' lowest moments. Such casual cruelty for no purpose at all. It should bother him.

[@ezetram774]

I’ve heard rumblings of a god of war 1 remake 🙏🏾

[@BobExcalibur]

No, too problematic for modern Sony.

[@Notwatchme]

finally kratos went to therapy

[@MortalGod100]

The thing is, Kratos not only killed the captain, when in the first game he climbs out of hades, he meets the captain who was doing the same and kratos only didnt fall further into hades, because he caught on to the man. He stabbed him with the blades of chaos, climbed on him and pushed him dow into the abyss. GoW 2: When you fight the barbarian king boss, after the 2nd phase the barbarian boss summons the souls of the dead, one of them is the boat captain. To no one surprise, you kill him AGAIN. GoW 3: When you are trying to get out of hades AGAIN, you encounter the boatmans soul the last time when hades finally absorbs him for good. At least u didnt erase his existence there.

[@The-Deadite]

Boat captain doesnt appear in GOW 3 tho, you can find a note of him but thats it.

[@thetest8777]

He's a lost soul

[@carbodude5414]

And even that pales in comparison to what he did to Poseidon's prisoner in GoW 3

[@eroanime8577]

The captain when meet kratos again : Not you Again

[@serarthurdayne41]

“You again?!” 😂

[@The-last-1]

I love how he just kinda forgot about the time he saw him in the underworld

[@anikaitrai5232]

Ares to kratos: you have no ideas what a true monster is kratos Kratos to hydra: you have no idea what a true monster is hydra (Just a god of war thing)

[@ZonnexNecton]

“Then I saw the Boat Captain again and killed him again because reasons.”

[@JordanSmith-yi3ji]

Kratos: It got... strange when he kept reappearing in my journey. Typically when I was sent to Hades for one reason or another.

[@afaiyh7069]

The last time Qoute Boat captain "NOT YOU AGAIN" 😂

[@trollmaster4523]

A wise person once said: *"True strength and wisdom comes from facing your mistakes, shortcomings and past sins, learning from them. No one is perfect and thats a good thing as seeing a person refine and improve themselves day by day is one of the most beautiful things to see."* Something Modern Disney and social media fails to see.

[@malachibanks6357]

Kratos story is so deep.

[@fanficlover]

Dang, they actually delved into the boat captain scene. I was alwaya wondering about that and wondering why Kratos did what he did.

[@Diamond_2403]

I love how Kratos purposefully leaves out the fact he killed him two other times. The second time in the Underworld and third when he was resurrected 😂

[@yezki8]

It not just hit Kratos, but us the old GoW fans as well. I remember i laugh at that part, and the part when we let him fall to Hades, and the part where we killed him again in GoW 2 We're truly monsters huh?

[@S117M4sterChief]

And then Kratos killed him again in Hell, and *again* when the Barbarian King summoned him on the Island of the Sisters of Fate

[@SpottedHares]

Disappointed that they cut out when Kratos died and fell to Hades he manged to grab on to the very same boat captain who had grabbed onto a ledge. And again Kratos showed no mercy to to man who did nothing wrong and again threw him to his terrible fate.

[@ULTRAOutdoorsman]

I didn't come back for YOU

[@professorcmajor3108]

what's even worse is that i remember you meet him again in hell and he managed to catch a cliff instead of falling into the fires of hell and yet again meeting Kratos, was then thrown into the depths of hell despite gaining the chance to escape

[@goblinounours]

It's impressive how what the devs of the original games probably thought was an hilarious joke (with how often the captain would show up again) is now used to add more depth to Kratos' character. One more thing he has to repent for.

[@foxmcclout1503]

When are we going to talk about the people we pressed O on when they were trying to escape their rooms on fire?

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

I always figured that the reason Kratos killed the captain was because he abandoned his men and tried to run in the middle of the battle. To a Spartan, such an act would be despicable.

[@swack24]

I don’t think he ran if memory serves me correctly.

[@alexmansfield3268]

Except he didn't run, dude just got swallowed up

[@chaosgamer016_5]

Yeah but how do we know he didn't lock the door to protect those civilians frome the monsters outside but by the time Cratos pased by monters found a way in to the room

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

@@alexmansfield3268 I just rewatched the scene. He runs away while one of his crewmates was still trying to fight off a Hydra head.

[@The-Deadite]

They were 3 men with paddles fighting a seemingly indestructible kaiju sized snake with dozens of heads, they had literal zero chance lol

[@dannyleo5787]

Kratos as of now compared to then is… phenomenal. When he was back in his lands he had no one to talk with, only scheming gods and a promise of pleasant dreams to go on. Naturally with time with those gods would drive any to such depravitys that no one would be safe. Yet here, once he learned of these lands, it took a woman named Faye to finally begin his healing. Having atreaus along with personal journeys as well as befriending mimir, you can see it clear as day, he’s even has tyr a god of WAR aiding kratos for what he truly needed. He has more than deserve this outcome.

[@KamusariHR]

I love how they mentioned each game accept gow ghost of sparta

[@dylanpyle6500]

Monster, monster does it matter it only matters if your self requires the view of other than see you in a certain way

[@SebDystic]

Boat Captain in heaven: *chillin* Kratos appears Boat Captain: “damn it you better not be here to kill another god or torment me more!” Kratos: “actually I’m dead… again…. Again…..again…. Finally….. I hope…” Boat Captain: “how the hell are you even in heaven?!”

[@jpedraza17]

I showed him what a true monster looked like

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

How Is He a Running Gag?! Kratos feeling regret over killing the Boat Captain makes his scenes feel like it’s less of a gag, and more of an important tragedy.

[@Crossbones6732]

Also when you “free” the whale in the Dwarf realm, if you go to the journal Kratos thinks about the Boat Captain then too.

[@MrHolydoodle]

Idk why, but its somehow funny to me, that Kratos didnt tell Mimir whole story about the captain, coz he is to ashamed to admit how many times he hurt that man.

[@geno3849]

Wait a minute... there's a little retcon here... I clearly remember those women not being dead, there's a whole ass mini-game to remember that lmao

[@milkinobama8160]

Those were different women. Soldiers killed those women as soon as Kratos got there

[@mullaoslo]

I was REALLY hoping we would get a boss fight against the sea captain... Mabye he brings the hydra with him

[@rdr.erased]

Love that last line, hate when people call a bad person an animal.

[@RuSosan]

It's tribalism 101. Perceived evils get dehumanized and "othered" so that the judging humans get to keep pretending that absolutely barbaric savagery isn't in our nature. And that they don't carry some of that with them.

[@ZetsubouGintama]

I am wish Kratos was regret about what he have done to Poseidon's princess too. You know, the poor young lady that Kratos forced her to hold a lever and got crushed by it.

[@itachi112ify]

CHARACTER 👏🏼 PROGRESSION 👏🏼

[@JustinC._]

You find his ship in the 2018 game.

[@bigt100]

He did that boat did greasy🤣

[@cr820]

Let's talk about Posiden's Princess while we're at it.

[@MegaManDBZX]

Well if it makes Kratos feel better, the Captain likely would have died due to the poison of the Hydra’s breath anyway.

[@thundercrash4775]

Probably not. At least then he'd still have been trying to save him. Especially considering the other two times he killed the guy.

[@ezzy384]

Naming your norse mythology story "ragnarok" and "valhalla" is a perfect way to demonstrate just how creatively bankrupt you are.

[@kotorandcorvid4968]

Oh now, how dare they name their story after two things that are the main focus of their story

[@thescepterofjudah12]

Oh and Kratos forgot about what he did to the Boat Captain when they encountered each other in Hell. That man couldn’t catch a break with Kratos.

[@piramidedigiza9757]

Kratos forgots that he trolled the boat captain three times

[@jonirmal6797]

I laugh at boat captain in gow 1 Now i feel sorry for him

[@RuSosan]

I'm still laughing in the context of the earlier games. It was intended as a joke then, that was a different time and Kratos was a different man. It is quite brilliant how they're tying all this together narratively though.

[@checkouttheplaylists5316]

kratos seems to forgo that he met him again in the underworld

[@youtubecreators384]

I feel like Kratos should feel equal shame for another past action. One of Poseidon's concubines, IE sex slave, whom Kratos used to keep a gate opened, which ultimately crushed her into a gory mess! That poor woman was a slave for a vicious god's sick pleasures and Kratos brutally murdered her just so he could advance further into Poseidon's palace. I'm surprised this was never brought up among the many horrific acts Kratos did.

[@gullydisciple]

Im not gonna lie I always wondered if we would meet the captain again during gameplay

[@mcgabrielrock]

If i remeber correcly one of the woman Said that the captain lock them inside the ship soo...im not sure he was that innocent

[@thunderwarrior1066]

NO NOT YOU AGAIN!!!

[@nickjaxon1317]

Its kinda sick to think in '05 most of us were leaughing at that scene

[@BobExcalibur]

No, it was funny and still is. This is revisionism.

[@TheCommun3]

Tyr: Kratos your actions seem to be a product of complex factors. Kratos: I killed the captain. I took his fucking key and when he thought i would save him i threw him to his fucking death 😅😅😅 Then i met him in the afterlife and screwed him again

[@dabaruknemuhar1981]

The death of greek pantheons destroyed the entire land and killed billions. But the boat captain is special because Kratos could have literally just saved him and it wouldn't even matter. Even without the control of the cruel gods, the man called Kratos was no better, he was just as callous, selfish, arrogant and cruel as them if not worse. But man looking at him now, you wouldn't believe he's the same person.

[@rowenramnath2016]

The key from god of war 1. Is here

[@DudeinGA]

If there's ever a sequel to Ragnarok, I would hope Kratos encounters the Boat Captain again. Boat Captain would be like, "Oh sh*t! Not you again!" and purposely jump off a cliff to his death to avoid Kratos. Mimir: Is that the Boat Captain? You weren't going to do anything, brother! Kratos: I was just merely going to say hi. Mimir: And that you did.

[@streetside2833]

They're really squeezing the whole Kratos regrets his actions thing dry

[@rynemcgriffin1752]

Yeah..that’s the point. He murdered an entire pantheon, the whole point of the Norse Saga was specifically for Kratos to move past his actions. I’d say the original trilogy is gonna come up more than a few times.

[@superelite5133]

There’s much more to this than him just regretting his actions

[@ULTRAOutdoorsman]

@@rynemcgriffin1752Boohoo. Maybe we need 2 more games full of Norse Californians to drive the point home.

[@fadlanfadilah1171]

i mean, bruh, if you played the OG trilogy you would know what he did, even as a player you can even kill civilians for green health orbs, pressing a circle and ripping them apart.

[@rynemcgriffin1752]

@@ULTRAOutdoorsman Aww did I hurt your feelings? Are you angry that the series isn’t just about angry dudes massacring entire pantheons anymore?

[@grubyolsen7244]

Well I hope he also regets people killed in God Of War 3 on the side of the wall in some city XD

[@Archangel657]

Uhhh so.. what of all the people he (by he I mean we) casually slaughtered so we could obtain more red orbs? Does Kratos feel the same way about them as he does for this boat captain?

[@milkinobama8160]

Well he technically got something in return for those deaths while the boat captain was just murder for no other reason rather than to kill. It wasnt revenge, defense, or anything that would benefit Kratos at all.

[@abdizur8765]

Kratos: The Barbarian that began my journey resurrected his soul to face me in combat. Mimir: Did you try to save this time Brother? Kratos: No, I killed him once again. Mimir: 😐

[@BobExcalibur]

Me: Based, kek.

[@fatihbahcivan34]

Alright now lets talk about the chicks in the chamber please Kratos 😂

[@luorca5686]

While at it let's talk about Aphrodite. 😂

[@Darkstar263]

That technically wasn't the only time Kratos encountered him. Later on in the first game, he kicked the captain down into Hades. And the captain's soul appeared again in God of War II during the fight with the Barbarian King.

[@Therestrial205]

Yeah, the Caption got revived only to die again in the hands of Kratos And guess what he said? "Oh no! Not you again!"

[@willsmith6530]

It’s hilarious that a long running joke had actually lore implications to it. The boat captain haunted him

[@ojp5053]

That’s not how you spell reminisces

[@saltysgene584]

Expect the boat captain refrence appear in the next game 😂 Kratos will have no peace with him lmao

[@DrakeVagabond]

I mean... It was still funny

[@raziel6304]

Kratos chose to say the women were dead instead of saying what he actually did with them lmaooooooooooooooo

[@whiteeye9584]

He killed the captain because he didn't let Kratos go through a gate so when he kills the first boss (hydra) he finds the captain inside the Hydras throat, so he saved the captain for the key and just dropped the dude down. The second he kills him is because they meet down in the underworld. He's the opposite of the lake spirit captain that Kratos respect in the newest game. Both lead their crews to death but the captain in GoW2018 still care for his crew and was a good leader ,while the captain in GoW1 locked away his crew members with monsters in that gate so he could survive alone. And the quote when Kratos saved him : "Thank the GOD you came back for me" probably pissed him off.

[@AssassinKid0]

Yeah, but the captain was still enough coward to let those women to their own when the Hydra was on the loose...so, he had his own part of responsability in this.

[@nullstone8646]

God and it was so fucking cool too, I miss old Kratos

[@FierceDeity35]

Ohhhh edgy.....

[@nawt9529]

hey, just helpin ya out, its spelt reminisce gotta help a brotha out

[@SociallyOdd95]

So wait.. They pretty much just retconned the mini game with the women? I would have had a good laugh at them writing the explaination for that if they kept it.

[@ricardomiles2957]

argh... Retroactively inserting Kratos thirst for revenge in GoW1 always pisses me off. If there's one thing i'm not liking in thw new gow games is how the reframe or ignore the events from the previous games just to fit in the narrative of the new ones. Kratos regret over Zeus is one, because it makes no sense and he never cared, pretty much using that fact to mock zeus but more outrageous is how in gow2018 they completely ignored how Kratos learns self acceptancr and to move on, finally getting rid of the visions, at the end of 3 just so they can do it AGAIN. Honestly at this point i wish the new games were a complete reboot, similar ghost of sparta origin but everything else new

[@40X70N]

And that's not even counting the time he met him during GoW2!

[@Darksaviour]

Mimir: If you saw this boat Captain again in the after life would you save him this time Kratos: Well about that Mimir: Wait, don’t tell me you did meet him in the afterlife and killed him again. Kratos: Twice Actually Mimir: What the fuck brother

[@HaMaNezam]

😂😂

[@mufasa9910]

BRUH

[@Darksaviour]

@@mufasa9910 Greek Kratos really was just an asshole

[@rainbowdash4898]

Every franchise needs a bit. For SpongeBob it was My Leg guy, for Avatar has My Cabbages. Kraitos knew it had to be done.

[@lovelace9638]

Hearing what the fuck brother in Mimir's voice is just hysterical 😂.

[@cr820]

Let's talk about Posiden's Princess while we're at it.

[@danieldickson8591]

That captain's death has always stayed in my mind as the most petty, pointlessly cruel thing Kratos ever did. It's healthy for Kratos to see it that way now, too.

[@futurevegan8617]

I'm not sure... That consort of Poseidon's was a pretty nasty thing. She was dragged into like a gear wheel and used as a doorstop.

[@shiroamakusa8075]

@@futurevegan8617 Even if that was cruel, it served a practical purpose. Murdering the boat captain served none.

[@futurevegan8617]

@@shiroamakusa8075 I agree that it served a practical purpose, but only if we're limiting ourselves to video game logic... There were plenty of items that Kratos could have tossed in there to jam up the mechanism. Even if the enemies gigantic hammers do disappear because they were summoned by magic, you could throw enough pots in there to jam it up just by the sheer volume of ceramic dust that got slipped into the rails or whatever. Not to mention candle holders, the chains that the girl was wearing, a brick from the wall, anything but a squishy mortal woman.

[@bojngsrll8644]

​@@shiroamakusa8075he's coward, Spartan hated coward

[@AlmeaCulpa]

Wasn't there some guy in a thorn prison that Kratos murdered just because? I vaguely remember something like that.

[@shadowwarrior3444]

This is a good scene, the fact that, even though Valhalla shows the complexity of Kratos's past and the fact that many of his atrocities were caused by either the gods' manipulations or collateral in the pursuit of his revenge, memories of the boat captain, and Poseidon's lover, are a reminder that Kratos was no better than his enemies and was just as callous. They did nothing to him, they were not warriors. They were average people stuck in a terrifying world with monsters and deities that could kill them in a flash, and Kratos couldn't be bothered to show even an inch of mercy for them, and for what?

[@EpicMorgana32]

do know where i could find the scene of him talking about poseidons lover. im very curous how that goes

[@leobatista2472]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@zylin2139]

​@@EpicMorgana32i cant remember clearly but i think it happened around Hera's garden in GOW 3.

[@EpicMorgana32]

@@zylin2139 wait he talks about poseidoms lover in god of war 3? arent we talkin about the lady kratos used as a support weight for a wheel that killed her in 3

[@zylin2139]

@@EpicMorgana32That lady is poseidon lover.

[@dragonicdoom3772]

I love how the whole theme of this DLC wasn't forgiving Kratos for his actions or excusing them, simply explaining them and showing himself and us that things are never cut and dry. It's about Kratos accepting who he was, both the good and the bad, and allowing himself to move on.

[@daviyo5]

This Is basically GOW: Ragnarok - Kratos's therapy

[@bandawin18]

Most elaborate therapy session for one of the most powerful beings in that universe

[@MrIndiemusic101]

They really needed to bring up Posiden's abused Princess being impaled to be used a door stop and then subsequently crushed in GOW3 then. That was probably the most fucked up murder of an innocent done in the old GOW game. Like it was just so unecessary. Both the act itself and how the scenario was presented also in the game too. It was definitely one of those edgy for the sake of being edgy things than actually adding anything of substance.

[@bandawin18]

@@MrIndiemusic101 we got to see some booba though, we also got to kick puppies at the same time 🗿

[@CrzyWzrd4L]

@@MrIndiemusic101They did. It’s in the Poseidon’s Lover dialogue

[@sg276556]

Well done, showing the story of the ship captain, while Kratos was explaining in the background was a good edit.😊

[@Fiftytwotop5]

Yes we he should do more he definitely would blow up

[@TaggedByTim]

One thing i love about Kratos is how he tells his stories exactly as they happened. No, omission of details, or anything to try and justify/ lessen the blow of his misdeeds.

[@LinkinMark1994]

@@Omar6Sno, THOSE women were on Kratos’ own boat, not the captain’s

[@voidmonger3831]

@@LinkinMark1994 Okay I had always wondered about that actually. One scene we were shown the people were all killed and then the next he has the two women on his bed. I always thought it was maybe survivors he found, but knowing they were women on his own boat makes a lot more sense.

[@alphaomega6540]

He kinda did omitted a lot when he told about Pandora and hepastus story in the base game

[@dalgusmaximus4557]

​@@alphaomega6540not to mention the entirety of God of war 2018 blue balling us. Never once does calliope, kratos' dead daughter WHO HE KILLED' ever get mentioned in this story about a father and his child...

[@ShadowGaming42069]

The women were dead by the time I reached them.

[@Garrus1995]

“Ah, yes…the story of your fight with the three-headed sea serpent.” “Bro, it had way more than 3 heads.”

[@darryllee1808]

Heracles: Am I a joke to you?

[@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite]

Kratos fought three heads in the final.section of the level.

[@MrDibara]

Bruh, did the devs misremember THAT MUCH?! 🤦‍♂️

[@robinanwaldt]

In the myth it had more heads, but in GOW1 it only had three.

[@robinanwaldt]

@@MrDibaraNope, they didn’t.

[@real_Hamilton]

Yeah that was truly an asshole move by Kratos. He could have EASILY lifted the man up and saved him. I think that was just the writer's way of letting us know right off the bat that Kratos is no hero. But he's come a long way since those greek days

[@siddharthverma1249]

He even kills him in hell just because

[@pranayravi9449]

Well if he had lifted him up, the captian would have to be escorted out of the hydra's mouth after which he would again be in danger of dying. Kratos just ended his misery.

[@knell18897]

@@pranayravi9449 but then again, Kratos has already lifted him up from the ledge. It would cost him nothing to just leave him there, instead he threw the man down to his death.

[@CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi]

the confusing thing about the captain is that the game lowkey let on that he trapped those women in that room, given how they screamed for Kratos to find the key to the room.

[@56bturn]

Maybe, but at that point, the captain had a chance, even if unprotected, with the monster dead and most of the undead slain. @@pranayravi9449

[@baldomiropoopito812]

Blades of Chaos: I'm gonna follow you wherever you go Kratos. Boat Captain: Yeah what he said.

[@hansalanson3497]

This is basically a slap in the wrist by the writers for people who are adamant in the idea that "Young Kratos is not to be blamed for the person he is, the gods were cruel on him".

[@astralchaos3441]

I mean they were cruel

[@fortunefiderikumo]

​@astralchaos3441 yes but this shows that Kratos was a horrible human by himself

[@astralchaos3441]

@@fortunefiderikumo I mean Yeah but why he's so horrible in the First place is bc of the Gods. If at that point he wasn't in service to the Gods for a whole decade, being lied to each time he would do something for them, he would more likely have saved Him.

[@hansalanson3497]

@@astralchaos3441 Nah, see the segments talking about Lysandra, Kratos himself acknowledged that he had been a sh*t person even before his desperate servitude to Ares and facing all that ugly stuff, and no, Deimos being taken from such a young age from him has nothing to do with it. Gotta stop excusing the man when he himself had so explicitly said that "he cannot hide behind his vengeance"...

[@astralchaos3441]

@@hansalanson3497 I'm not excusing Kratos, obviously he wasn't a good person but a huge reason for why that was in the First Place was bc of the Gods. And why would the loss of Deimos have nothing do with it? GoW Ghost of Sparta tells us that it affected him a lot. Not really saying that it was the main reason but why would it not have anything to with it?

[@JYang0602]

I actually find this dialogue interesting in Valhalla. That on Kratos’ journey through Vengeance, the Boat Captain left the biggest impact. A needless and pointless death that could’ve been avoided. This also goes for the needless /pointless deaths at Kratos’ hands in God of War 3 like the lady stuck in the door contraption or when Kratos was scaling the side of a building and through that civilian off out of his way. The Captain marked the true start of the cost of vengeance for nothing

[@NinjapowerMS]

It wasnt. Saving that captain would put unnecessary things on his plate never mind protecting the captain why stop at just him? There's also multiple sailors there that needed Help and Kratos isn’t a modern super hero he lives in a dog eat dog world. The lady also was a needed sacrifice to open the door otherwise he wouldn't have been able to progress. Now I'm not saying Kratos is the pope or anything but let's stop pretending Kratos went out of his way to be specifically be a D. He sacrificed everything that could potentially help him in his way in pursuit of vengeance.

[@spiderrocket8367]

@@NinjapowerMS he didn't have to protect the captain though he could have helped him up and gone on his way. He intentionally threw the bit a captain down simply just because he could and Posideons Princess coukdmhave been avoided he could have grabbed one of the thousands of mooksor dogs and used them in the same way but he instead used an innocent woman who was just as much a victim of the Gods a he was. Kratos was a nuanced character to a point but you acting like he wasn't a selfish piece of ship who is on the record as having murdered just as many who were not deserving of his blade is a bit concerning

[@vaerrik1082]

@@NinjapowerMS bruh he 100% went out of his way to be a dick. There where so many instances where he said fuck it and just killed random ass people. Young Kratos only cared about himself and his revenge, and being in his general vicinity probably meant you where going to get killed for literally no reason. Whenever there were civilians running around, you could kill them for xp and healing. Which the vast majority of players did. Young Kratos was a complete asshole, and while the gods deserved the shit kicking he gave them, everyone else didn't. Especially Posideon's princess, who just existed. But she said something mean to him, so I guess she deserves to die.

[@NinjapowerMS]

@@vaerrik1082 He doesn't kill to be a D though. He kills them because it grants him health or currency which in turns gives him more vengeance power. It's like an animal attacking humans it's not being a D it's just doing it to survive. As for the poseidon princess there's literally no way to progress. She was a necessary sacrifice and doesn't help that enemies there despawn when they get beaten. Saying he's a D implies he's going out of his way to mess with people for his own amusement which he doesn't it's usually because it helps him in overcome that situation.

[@thegemguy1334]

The thing is, the captain had nothing to do with his path for vengeance at all. Kratos was doing a quest for the Olympian Gods. And the quest was to kill a sea monster, not Ares.

[@__shubham__]

*Hydra was just an animal. I showed him what a true monster looked like.*