Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 in Koblenz.

Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 am 2.4..2019 in Koblenz.
Weil hier viele gefragt haben.
Dieses Koblenz liegt in der Schweiz im Kanton Aargau, dirkekt am Rhein, gegenüber der deutschen Stadt Waldshut-Tiengen.
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In Koblenz kreuzen sich die Strecken Waldshut - Turgi und Bülach - Basel und es liegt nur wenige 100m von der im Jahre 1859 eröffneten Rheinbrücke entfernt.
Ich habe hier noch ein zweites kurzes Video von diesem Krokodil:
• Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305

[@Weltraumfellechsenmann]

Schön zu sehen das sich um dieses Monstrum noch immer so liebevoll gekümmert wird. Schönste Lok für mich persönlich die es auf der Welt gibt!

[@schoneshavelland9176]

Angenehme ruhige Kameraführung, nur Originalton (keine störende Musik) , detailreich. Sehr schön ! Danke für's Hochladen.

[@orgami100]

The production "Crocodiles" were the series SBB Ce 6/8 II and SBB Ce 6/8 III locomotives of the SBB, Swiss Federal Railways, built between 1919 and 1927. There were 33 class Ce 6/8 II and 18 class Ce 6/8 III, making a total (excluding the prototype) of 51 locomotives. These locomotives were developed for pulling heavy goods trains on the steep tracks of the Gotthardbahn from Lucerne to Chiasso, including the Gotthard Tunnel. The electric motors available at the time were large and had to be body-mounted above the plane of the axles, but flexibility was required to negotiate the tight curves on the Alpine routes and tunnels. An articulated design, with two powered nose units bridged with a pivoting center section containing cabs and the heavy transformer, met both requirements and gave excellent visibility from driving cabs mounted safely away from any collision. The two motors in each nose unit were geared to a jackshaft between the drive axles farthest from the cab, with side rods carrying the power to the drivers. These locomotives, sometimes called the "Swiss Crocodile" or "SBB Crocodile", were highly successful and served until the 1980s. The German model railway manufacturer Märklin published a book about their history in 1984.] Several are still in operation as preserved historical locomotives.

[@RenaissancePeopleNYC]

what was its top speed?

[@Martin_Adams184]

@@RenaissancePeopleNYC According to the Wikipedia article, from which Jason Wilson's information is pasted, the top speed is 75 kph (47 mph). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_%28locomotive%29

[@ctwentysevenj6531]

Here is the Austrian crocodile, OBB class 1189, built in the late 1920s. I believe 18 were built. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYbck4Sim8hni9k

[@marcconyard5024]

Do you know the weight of each motor, their physical size and HP rating?

[@orgami100]

@@marcconyard5024 Look on Online Wikipedia, there's lots more good information there. .

[@bkarosi]

That is one of coolest locomotives I have ever seen. Sounds a bit like a steamer

[@inyobill]

justly famous class. I'm only a bit over an hour from Koblenz! I need to find out how to know when these veterans are on the road.

[@billcobbett9259]

You've got the whine of the 4 motors, coupled with the noise from straight-cut gears which varies with the position of the connecting rods

[@manfredpaul695]

Haettes höher aus steuern müssen, dann hatte nan nur noch kratzen gehoert

[@samuelbhend2521]

they were built in 1919 and used regularly on the Gotthard railway until 1986, they still run like a clock, despite only being museumpieces now..... try that with todays electronic tupperwares on wheels:)

[@Boxpok]

Looks like a cousin to the Pennsylvania L5, good to see the older stuff well maintained and running.

[@johnmay2786]

I've just googled Pennsylvania L5, I see the close family likeness!

[@csjdruid434]

Boxpok Except this one will always be better because it’s swiss

[@benedictdesilva6677]

The *Pennsylvania L5* is actually a direct technological descendant of the *Crocodile.* The Swiss pioneered electrical locomotives and *Crocodile* was first built in 1919 in Switzerland by a consortium that included Brown Boveri. Brown Boveri was later seminal in the building of the *Pennsylvania L5* - first built in 1924 in the US. www.swissmint.ch/e/aktuell/neuheiten/krokodil.php

[@Elios0000]

closer to a GG1

[@robertbowman3406]

This is a fine example of an outstanding locomotive. It looks like they just outshopped her.

[@Garfieldfidel]

was für ein wunderschöner anblick diese lok doch ist, da geht mir als tf (im güterverkehr) das herz auf und ich habe ein lächeln von ohr zu ohr im gesicht! wow ...

[@otmanovanony8206]

Des trains très nobles comme nous les avons toujours aimés ...les gares étaient aussi des bijoux et des zones logistiques qui ont contribué au décloisonnement et au développement de nombreuses régions éloignées et peu desservies par le réseau routier. Merci pour ces vidéos qui valorisent et rappellent le beau patrimoine ferroviaire.

[@stephenpowell5912]

I did not think these Still Existed❤️Beautiful Locos 💕Thats what I love about Continental Railways.

[@尾崎主幸]

Looks so classical. And the motor sound is so nice‼️

[@midgeholt8863]

I like how it sounds a bit like a steamer at a distance

[@yosidakayo]

蒸気機関車の音に似ていますね！　(*^-^)ﾆｺ

[@尾崎主幸]

Sari Sumdac First time,I can't make sense why the sound bit steamer. But,here well the sound sometimes same as steam loco because they are rod drive both. For me I like the sound for nose suspention drive (I'm not sure the expression is right. In Japanese "吊り掛け式〈Tsurikake-siki〉). Yea,it's sound nostalgic‼️😊👍

[@尾崎主幸]

yosidakayo さん。 実は上のSari Sumdacさんと同じこと言われてて、電気と蒸気と違うのに何で⁉️ と思ってたんですが、 なるほど‼️ 確かに“シュッシュッ“という音そうですよね⁉️ 多分両方ともピストン式のロッド（車輪に付いてる長い棒）で動くのがそう聞こえるのかも知れませんね。😊 私は、スタートの時の重低音から段々上がっていく“吊り掛け式“独特のモーターの音の事を言ってたのですが、二人のコメント見て新たなポイントに気づきました。 ありがとうございました。😊

[@SantulanMahanta]

There is one on display at National Rail Museum in New Delhi. This was one of the earliest and served the Mumbai (Bombay) area. Our previous generation saw it in action but we missed the show. Thanks for uploading it, at least I could get the idea of how it might have operated here in India

[@trainsandtrams2020]

Schöne Filmaufnahmen mit dokumentarischen Wert. Es ist ja nicht gerade täglich, dass ein Gotthard-Krokodil im Ruhestand sich in Koblenz zeigt! :)

[@hans-peterschumann2990]

Ich schließe mich Havelland an, super Film und perfektes Modell, sehr schön

[@robertbrunclik7110]

Sehr schön alte gute Maschinen. Das ist eine schöne Erlebnis. Danke schön Ihnen.

[@TomCro2022]

Superb! Very very very good video and sound ! Great! Greetings from Zagreb / Croatia

[@atrox4337]

Wunderschöne Lok. Sehr schön gefilmt. Super

[@atgv43]

Fascinating locomotive! I always liked its design.

[@ianboard544]

When I was a kid I had a Marklin set - this is one of the locomotives that was in their catalog that I coveted.

[@lockervomhocker9795]

Für mich schönste el. Lokomotive!

[@netizen78]

Eine grandiose Maschine in hervorragendem Zustand. Danke für den Upload.

[@Hardyhartmann-1]

Ein Wahnsinnsteil die Lok, einfach herrlich anzusehen.👍

[@MrIndustrializer]

01:47: The mask from the "Scream" motion picture...

[@Rammstein45]

LOL! That took me a minute.

[@boristhebarbarian]

the blue loc just to the right?? big eyes, big mouth?

[@MrIndustrializer]

@@boristhebarbarian Yes.

[@johnbrown9092]

Super film of a truly unusual vehicle. Enjoyed it immensely.

[@hughvane]

Very good video, but nowhere can I find one of 'under the covers' of a Krokodil. When restoration is happening, can we see all the internal working layout of the loco with its cowling removed?

[@hughvane]

I may have answered my own query when I found this kzbin.info/www/bejne/naOmq394rdCemac It would still be great for enthusiasts to see hatches opened and covers removed - where possible of course.

[@svenmartin840]

I felt my grandfather's spirit just watching the video.

[@wolfgangclaus6481]

Nicht nur eine Traum Lok auch ein perfekt gedrehtes Video,,,danke

[@gp3yt]

WOW....Danke/Dank!!! Great share VERY much like the PRR L5's!! Electric locomotives driven by jack-shafts were at one time the only effective means of transmitting the power of the massive electric motors down to the wheels/road...very simple, very effective, and very smooth w far less "hammer-blow" effect on the rail than steamers. PRR DD1's were pretty much used right into the 30's when superceded by GG1's. / Toller Anteil SEHR ähnlich wie der PRR L5 !! Von Wagenheber angetriebene Elektrolokomotiven waren einst das einzig wirksame Mittel, um die Kraft der massiven Elektromotoren auf die Räder / Straße zu übertragen ... sehr einfach, sehr effektiv und sehr sanft, weit weniger "Hammerschlag" Wirkung auf die Schiene als Dampfer. PRR DD1 wurden bis in die 30er Jahre verwendet, als sie von GG1 abgelöst wurden.

[@BaltimoreAndOhioRR]

So cool!!! 👍👍👍👍

[@CyrusInIndia]

What a magnificent locomotive. Well maintained.

[@rudolfabelin383]

Wow! This is a legend!!

[@andreasulrich5872]

Was für eine tolle Lokomotive.

[@PontiacCZ]

Now that's a beast! :-o One is not quite sure whether he's looking at an electric or a steam locomotive. :-)

[@frankwankerl7021]

PontiacCZ it’s electric

[@Republic3D]

After playing Transport Fever 2, I've suddenly gotten a lot of train video recommendations. Love it! Trains are very interesting. In the game I'm using this Krokodil locomotive a lot. Pulls a lot of weight, although not very high top speed.

[@T3ki1a_]

Small wheels equals more power but less speed. That's what you need in moutains chain

[@johnneedy3164]

That is ONE kool looking Engine, wish I had the resources to travel to see this kind of stuff ,but content to sit here and watch on this internet

[@ursfellmann6239]

Das war noch Qualität 👍😊 die heutigen Loks werden sicher nicht solange fahren. LG aus der Zentralschweiz

[@BRADSLINKMAN]

Schön!! Danke sehr!

[@PBallroomBlitzK]

Ich liebe das! Inspiriert meine Krokodil und die alte Blechwagen bon Märklin wie hier fahren zu lassen!

[@andreasulrich5872]

Tolle Lokomotive, klasse Video, danke fürs Hochladen.

[@sebastiancarmienke3082]

Hallo Gerhard! ein sehr schönes Video vom Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 der SBB in Koblenz (Schweiz) am 02.04.2019👍 Ich hoffe nur das das Krokodil noch lange betriebsfähig bleibt. Ich wünsche mir so sehr das Das Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 der SBB, auch nach Deutschland zu Gast kommt, und auch in Deutschland vor Sonderfahrten oder vor Regelzügen eingesetzt wird. Viele Nette grüße S.C

[@GerhardKlaus]

Hallo Sebastian, erstmal danke, es freut mich immer wenn ich lese das mein Video gefällt. Jetzt aber zu deinem Wunsch: Da wird leider nichts draus, das Krokodil hat leider keine Zulassung in Deutschland und kann deshalb in Deutschland nicht eingesetzt werden. Gruß Gerhard

[@sebastiancarmienke3082]

Das ist aber schade😔😔😔

[@Macintoshiba]

I can see why they called this Crocodile, it does look like one with its snout like (what I assume to be) engine covers

[@herpnderpn2484]

No engines, just big transformers and switch gear. Same difference really though.

[@Rei_Ner]

@@herpnderpn2484 I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The electric motors and the drive are placed in both "snouts", the middle section carrys the transformer. Here is an description: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)

[@Rei_Ner]

Hello Macintoshiba, that's right. In both front sections are motors and drive, in the middle part is the transformer. Please have a look at this description: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)

[@wernergatterer2953]

Ich mochte diese Lok schon immer, ich weiß nicht warum aber irgendwas hat sie, sie schaut einfach cool aus! Vielleicht weil sie mit den Pleuel ein bißchen was von einer Dampflok hat.

[@panzermann]

....der Dampfloksound zu Anfang war passend!!!! 😄😄😄😄😄👍👍👍👍

[@Lightningalleyproductions]

European locomotives always look so elegant.

[@CarlosFuentes-fk8md]

Estamos de acuerdo.

[@geistdernacht7671]

Danke für das schöne Video ich besitze genau diese Lok mit der Nummer in Spur 1

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Erstaunlich, dass es nicht möglich war so eine Qualität damals in Deutschland zu bauen einfach ein Kunstwerk :-)

[@norbertr9886]

Was heißt hier 'nicht möglich' - es war nicht nötig ! ! -- AU WEIA !!

[@Gothraven]

Wow, even though it looks a bit old-fashioned but very powerful, it's probably one of the rarest in the world

[@askhattayeshev1854]

Бомбический крокодил👍👍👍👍👍👍🐊

[@otmanovanony8206]

Un vrai chef d'oeuvre technologique cette locomotive avec double motorisation et double cabine de conduite

[@pat370]

The CE 6/8 will always be my favorite European locomotive class. Also love the shot at 8:22

[@accatenary]

This type of locomotive was used in my country India before few years.and it was called WCG1. It operated under 1500V DC on Central Railways. It was manufactured by English Electric and Vulcan Foundries. Today we have AC traction all over so this type of locomotive is only seen at railway museum.

[@kaasmeester5903]

Awesome piece of machinery. That one is the Märklin model I always wanted...

[@orgami100]

Same here. .

when i was a kid growing up in münich my rich cousin had a layout i think it was ho...and he had one ! it looked so odd and attractive at the same time .but i remember thinking (about 7 years old)..what a smart design !! it goes both ways and always looks the part lol (and its electric !!..most were stream then ( circa 1959 or so )..fond memorys ! and this station and ambiance remains unchanged ..i love that aspect ..cheers

[@colonthree]

Are you me. ;w;

[@ЕвгенНик-у1ь]

Господа, я впечатлен , удивлён и рад что история жив а и хорошо себя чувствует!

[@anupvadnere5950]

Nice locomotive, in India such type of locomotive available generally and nickname was "Crab' class WCG1

[@pillairangaraj20]

Nicknamed kekda ....used in the Igatpuri ghats till the mid 1980s atleast

[@tujams]

Sir Leslie Wilson is what it was called by GIP. Ive seen it shunting trains in the Dadar CR rail yard.

[@ddpeak1]

It’s not like England, nobody hanging out of the coaches talking pictures. Noisy old thing. Thanks for sharing.

[@GerhardKlaus]

No, they usually get out, but there is no platform on this track and there were several trains on the other tracks at the same time.

[@comics_reisebusfahrerleon]

Sehr schön 👍👍👍

[@asingh5482]

These locomotives were operational in India till the mid 90s, mostly worked in DC traction. In their last years these locos were mainly used for shunting.

[@aleksandrrykalov8977]

Очень интересное конструкторское и дизайнерское решение электровоза.Респект.

[@Merl-co2nd]

What a beautiful beast!

[@niniastobias8075]

Спасибо 👍😀

[@rishi1971]

We used to have larger versions of these on 1500V DC in India. Now as museum piece only as we have 25000 V AC traction.

[@irelandbloke]

Superb locos !

[@neumoi3324]

Awesome. Well maintained beast of burden. I've seen similar engines in the indian railways used in Igatpuri - Mumbai section some 50 - 52 years back when I was a 12 - 15 year old boy. These were used for heavy goods hauling in hilly sections. This crock snouted engines were powered by direct current. Subsequently the DC traction has disappeared and replaced by AC. I don't know where the Indian engines were manufactured.

[@ravi28948]

Indian Railways used DC run "Crocodiles" extensively for pulling of goods trains and pushing of passenger trains on up moving gradients. Occasionally, I believe, they were used on passenger trains too. As a child I have observed these beautiful beasts with intense curiosity and admiration.

[@UnionCountyPhotography]

Nice!! I used to use this all the time on Trainz 12

[@MrPetrabella]

Es handelt sich bei diesem seltenen Zug um eine "HistorischeFahrt" der SBB, exklusiv für ihre Mitarbeiter-Innen im Ruhestand. Ich wäre da auch gern mitgefahren, aber der Zug war sofort ausgebucht, ist ja klar. Danke fürs Video!

[@almostkentish3042]

That noise is incredible!

[@CarlosFuentes-fk8md]

Esta antigua locomotora eléctrica era de los tiempos en que había un fuerte dimorfismo entre locomotora y vagon. Después las locomotoras comenzaron a confundir su forma con los vagones de pasajeros (básicamente rectangulares). Hermosa locomotora que refleja todo su poder.

[@mmitra9840]

Looks like the old Great Indian Peninsular railway moving around Bombay in the olden days. Maybe from the same stable

[@KrichProduction]

Не ожидал увидеть смесь паровоза и электровоза. Очень интересно выглядит и звучит необычно.

[@peterszar]

For a very long time I assumed that the drive arms and wheels were opposed 180 degrees, it only made logical sense to me. Well because of this video my suppositions were validated at last. Thanks Mr. Klaus. Oh by the way how's your brother Santa, sorry I couldn't resist that.

[@salamisalesexpress]

Actually you'll find that they are 90 degrees out of phase. In the steam locomotive world this would prevent both cylinder sets from being at bottom/top dead center and be unable to start. Usually it is refereed to in the US as "Quartering". I believe this practice continued through to the electric locomotives simply though design momentum.

[@zonavelhalpma]

FANTASTIC VIDEO

[@johnmay2786]

Fascinating locomotive!

[@BRADSLINKMAN]

Danke Gerhard!

[@RWtv-trainchannel]

Beautiful video! 👍👍👍

[@y-cyastorr8459]

Sehr schöni Kroki-Loki mit den grünen Typ III Wagen dran. Konnte aber nie mitfahren mit einen Zug welcher das Krokodill vorne hatte. Dafür mal anfangs 90ern mit einem "Schnellzug" der von München her und nach Chur gefahren ist - der hatte von Buchs aus nur noch 3 Wagen an dem kleinem Krokodill Ae 4/7. Soviel ich noch weiss - Früher wurden auch 2 oder gar 3 Krokodill Lokomotiven benutzt um Güter über den St. Gotthard zu transportieren.

[@Chasm...]

Да ладно! Звук на старте как у наших советских ЭР1, ЭР2. А машина вообще супер!

[@DanilVirpil]

Мне даже сначала показалось, что у меня на фоне открыто видео с ЭР-кой.

[@conceyullena]

Very nice video! Greetings from Asturias

[@Ostap_I_Kisa]

Wow, that's so unusual construction is like hybrid of steam and electrical locomotive on the down of electrification

[@herbertmische8660]

Sehr schönes Video!!!

[@jonnifjader]

Darf ich fragen? Warum manchmal ein pantograph und manchmal zwei? Ist der einiger besser als die anderen, oder? Ich weiss - bin dumm....

[@Starlight_66]

Mich wundert die gute Kurvengängigkeit bei dem Achsabstand...

[@ravi28948]

Those huge links that connect electric motor to driven wheels make very sweet sound. I wonder why they were needed?

[@nlo114]

I got a Swiss Crocodile Airfix (?) kit for xmas when I was a kid. I was still learning modelling skills at the age, and could not get the wheels to do a full turn. My father suggested that I make a better job of trimming the flash, and use less glue. It got destroyed one Guy Fawkes night when my patience expired :-(

[@norbs]

The model from the other video seems more realistic than the real thing

[@treineninbeeld5480]

Good video, and a nice loc. Sorry for my bad English, because I am Dutch ;-)

[@mikhailbaranov1587]

Ничего себе! Отличный механизм!

[@АлексейМихайлин-ф5й]

Особенно в смысле воздействия на путь. Дышловая передача в этом смысле - как пара кузнечных молотов.

[@thomasstuart2936]

Excellent video.

[@Karli-23]

huch, ich dachte schon ich wäre im falschen Film: ...Koblenz? Aber stimmt, in der Schweiz, direkt an der Grenze zu Deutschland gibt es ja auch noch ein Koblenz. Ich dachte ursprünglich an das deutsche Koblenz an Rhein und Mosel. ....einfach nur herrschaftlich und erhaben, das 🇨🇭🐊!

[@mandarin1257]

Wasn't this mainly used for cargo?

[@longimanusisurus132]

Qué maravilla de máquinas!

[@ianforfun1]

I would love this to visit the UK, a showstopper if ever there was one!

[@enolkaenolka]

Tak to je krása 😚

[@timlazara1585]

Gerhard, hallo. Von welchem Jahr ist es? Und warum hat die Rāder so ein Dampf locomotive ? Dankeschön von Argentina

[@GerhardKlaus]

Hallo Tim. Was meinst du mit "von welchem Jahr?" Das Video ist von 2019 und die Lok ist Baujahr 1925. Schau mal hier: www.sbbhistoric.ch/sammlungen/fahrzeuge/lokomotiven/elektrisch/ce68iii-14305.html Greats from Germany

[@tijojoy5607]

A well maintained Shunting Loco like our WDS series in Indian Railways

[@ArghyadeepPal]

Came from the Swiss mission in Transport Fever 2..

[@DaronPorter39]

Welp... this is now my new favorite train

[@aikonlatigid]

Crocodile Loco, there are others Loco nickname, "centipede" and "shark"

[@thenekom]

And don't forget Alco's RSD-15 "Alligators"

[@VasilSch]

По звуку наша электричка до мытищ!

[@Tvoibatea]

Только крокодил производился в 1920е. А наша электричка...

[@konstantin88181]

а весь звук из пары прямозубых шестерен.

[@pu5epx]

This makes Swiss children go to bed early

[@buyaport]

Offenbar handelt es sich hierbei um Koblenz im Schweizer Kanton Aargau, nicht zu verwechseln mit der deutschen Großstadt Koblenz in Rheinland-Pfalz!

[@MrLeopard5]

ein herrliches Gerät