KSG -vs- DP-12 [ Best Bullpup SHOTGUN ? ]

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@GY6vids
@GY6vids Жыл бұрын
Checkout my video shooting John Wick 4 shotgun with Dragons Breath HERE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKOadKRnlM-Zhqs
@tylerw1418
@tylerw1418 9 ай бұрын
7 years later this video is still impressive, and helpful. Just purchased my KSG and love it. Thank you sir.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 9 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!😎🤝
@tylerw1418
@tylerw1418 8 ай бұрын
@@GY6vids 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@ThatxGuyxUxKnow
@ThatxGuyxUxKnow 8 ай бұрын
I bought mine yesterday:)
@Kaermon
@Kaermon 29 күн бұрын
@@ThatxGuyxUxKnow Bought my KSG a week ago, am loving it! I do plan on getting the extended selector switch so you can change tubes by flicking your wrist. Will make it much simpler.
@ryanscottm
@ryanscottm 4 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best comparison videos - not just for guns but of anything - that I've seen. Got me from the start with the time stamps and again at the end with the whole "don't discount the 500 or 870" reality check. Honest reviews not driven by manufacturer pressure. Just awesome.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
HEY!!! Got am idea...gonna run the DP-12 again in a video, and we will see its fast double tap in action(Cant tell you what, ruin the surprise LOL)...Granted the double tap with 12 gauge isn't the most accurate but it can be VERY ENTERTAINING in certain situations! The speed of the DP-12 and its crisp trigger, will make for some fun! LIKE this comment if you're down for some more DP-12 stuff....
@barryjustice8656
@barryjustice8656 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, please! The DP-12 should excel at a double tap drill. The fast double tap, ammo capacity and pump reliability is why I'm purchasing a DP-12 for home defense.
@barryjustice8656
@barryjustice8656 8 жыл бұрын
Oh I forgot...ALWAYS DOUBLE TAP!!!
@jnbaker7422
@jnbaker7422 8 жыл бұрын
You should get vambraces for the ksg.
@aaronkinard4073
@aaronkinard4073 8 жыл бұрын
pretty sure during your speed test that was operator error you were most definitely short stroking the action on both shotguns. alot of people give the ksg a bad reviews because they try to run it as fast as they can an in there rush tend to also short stroke the action. I have do it myself while speed firing a pump shotgun. good vid though
@TWISTEDSTRINGS69
@TWISTEDSTRINGS69 8 жыл бұрын
I`m a little late to the show but I think they make a shell deflector for that now. No more snake bite !
@MW-jm8qb
@MW-jm8qb 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid quality. Calm, non-obnoxious levels, no dopey funny shinnanigans, straight and to the point, nice slo-mo action, music fits, nice fade ins and outs. 10/10. Great Job !
@frederikclaeyssens9201
@frederikclaeyssens9201 8 жыл бұрын
"hope you appreciate the quality..." Man, said it before and I'll gladly say it again: Your production quality is trough the roof. Excellent in every way. Thank you for the effort and the honest insight in both systems!
@steph1701
@steph1701 6 жыл бұрын
I have the KSG ... there is a shell deflector made by SMT Tactical to keep the shells off your wrist. There is also an enhanced tube selector that extends the tube selector to the point where you can switch the tubes with your wrist. Regardless ... Great unbiased vid. Good work!
@anxiousbeachbums
@anxiousbeachbums Жыл бұрын
Good info.
@violator4200187
@violator4200187 11 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Jglover32
@Jglover32 4 ай бұрын
The selector switch is a huge “pro” imo. I can load slugs in one tube, buckshot in the other.
@Ocazzar
@Ocazzar 8 жыл бұрын
for the ksg I use my wrist guard I use for bow shooting and it deflects those shells great
@BetaBuxDelux
@BetaBuxDelux 5 жыл бұрын
Ocazzar smart man
@hjburgess
@hjburgess 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have the problem of the shells hitting my wrist
@jamiesmith6838
@jamiesmith6838 5 жыл бұрын
That's what i was thinking. Small mod or polyurethane wristband!
@Combatzx2
@Combatzx2 5 жыл бұрын
@@hjburgess same here man.. was news to me too
@brianknight2282
@brianknight2282 4 жыл бұрын
I had a problem with it shooting out on my fucking nipple like smacking it
@RockLives4u
@RockLives4u 8 жыл бұрын
This is a very professional and candid video presentation. I hope you continue to be honest in the future, and not give in to corporate pressures. Thanks It is a breath of fresh air in the world of product reviews
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Yeah it is rough fighting against the wants and needs of companies...everyone wants positive info spoke about their firearms, but honesty in my findings is #1, and it's very rarely 100% perfection on any of the firearms I review...but doesn't make any one gun horrible...but there are times a gun in HORRIBLE, and when that occurs, I'll tell you! Without the trust of my viewers...whats the point of doing reviews.
@texmex8220
@texmex8220 7 жыл бұрын
So what do you think of the ksg. Me personally I am kinda liking it. In a fantasy tactical sense lol the selector switch makes for a quick reload. 7 then a quicker 7 than reloading a new 30 rd mag. With the dp12 once you run dry you either load both tubes or shoot one skip one. just a novice shooters 2 cents
@anderseckstrand7033
@anderseckstrand7033 4 жыл бұрын
TexMex....That’s one of the problems I have with the DP-12. That and it weighs a ton!!!
@ag4allgood
@ag4allgood 3 жыл бұрын
@@anderseckstrand7033 Do you use a sling for it ? That would help.
@dr.byronloyd4713
@dr.byronloyd4713 8 жыл бұрын
I watched your previous video on the DP-12 and how the cycling was a problem. I am glad that Standard Manufacturing has since corrected the problem. I own a DP-12 and have put many rounds through mine. I have never experienced the sticking of shells, and the action works flawlessly regardless of the angle I am holding the weapon. Thank you for bringing this issue to the attention of Standard which prompted them to fix this problem. I enjoy your videos.
@googlechicken
@googlechicken Жыл бұрын
@@pomztoybox6877 me too and I’m sorry but if someone is clearing a building with there weapon pointed perpendicular to the floor tha that is a tactical issue not a mechanical one
@joshzolnierowicz3088
@joshzolnierowicz3088 7 жыл бұрын
"click on the time stamps so i wont waste your time" *subs instantly*
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 7 жыл бұрын
My viewers time is valuable and I respect it. Sometime people just want to see the details and others want to see just shooting aspects...Want to give them the option. Welcome to GY6vids
@leokrupp4442
@leokrupp4442 7 жыл бұрын
Dudes legit.
@jonathanblaine4121
@jonathanblaine4121 6 жыл бұрын
Same. Mad respect to him for that.
@emmettmarbury6571
@emmettmarbury6571 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@markbrown1603
@markbrown1603 5 жыл бұрын
GY6vids i
@agentblammo
@agentblammo 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great review. I am 100% certain which shotgun I'm going with (first). I love shotguns and have had my heart set on the KSG 25 since I came across it recently at a local gun shop. Then I saw the DP-12 which is most certainly boner-inspiring for pretty much any shotgun lover. After watching this entire review, I'm quite certain the overall better choice is the KSG, so I'll be going to pick mine up shortly. That said, I'm pretty sure I will be adding the DP-12 to my shotgun collection eventually as well.
@kennethkrajewski9443
@kennethkrajewski9443 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! In case anyone missed it. The ksg can also hold. 24. Mini slugs. That is huge. Love the mini slugs!
@tjnj2256
@tjnj2256 5 жыл бұрын
yep KSG is the only shotgun on market that runs ALL 12ga shells flawlessly
@vilador8229
@vilador8229 4 жыл бұрын
So it’ll run them flawlessly? I’ve been wondering this
@RikuNoganashi
@RikuNoganashi 4 жыл бұрын
@@vilador8229 I run the Aquila minishells in my KSG full time for security work, never had a single issue with them.
@graemeo3440
@graemeo3440 4 жыл бұрын
The KSG 25 holds 41 minishells.(with one in the pipe)
@andrewclegg4120
@andrewclegg4120 4 жыл бұрын
I have a KSG and use Aguila minishells, both slug and buck shot. You can put a max of 11 in each tube and they work flawlessly. I have shot well over 100 shells in one range visit, have had no miss feeds, no empty shell casings hit my wrist although my daughter did and the recoil is very much reduced by using a smaller shell.
@iouund3rtak3r13
@iouund3rtak3r13 5 жыл бұрын
No complaints about my KSG,,protects me and my family just fine,, and its a great gopher remover and camping protection. God bless, great video thanks..
@bonsaiocean
@bonsaiocean 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. TEN 13 ever have any problems with the shell bite like this man had?
@MegaLucario95
@MegaLucario95 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Weight I haven’t, and i’ve cycled all 15 rounds multiple times.
@HoeLeeSheet
@HoeLeeSheet 5 жыл бұрын
I don't want a shotgun that's made out of beach plastic and plus shotguns are useless against home defense if I want something for home-defense I'll take an AR-15
@NoneyoBisniss
@NoneyoBisniss 5 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet That would be effective but not cool when the bullets blow through your (neighbors) walls and destroy things in the next room. #overpenetration
@honorablesteve6091
@honorablesteve6091 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet Not all polymers/plastics are the same, as should be obvious, despite that I doubt that the polymer that Keltec uses isn't good enough to last
@TheJrivera1
@TheJrivera1 8 жыл бұрын
I'm picking up a DP-12 this weekend in my home state of CT. Thank you for the great review.
@littleike2228
@littleike2228 8 жыл бұрын
Hey GY6 I appreciate all the time you took editing and including the time markers. Not enough people say thanks so thanks man, keep making awesome videos
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying thank you...its a ton of work and I want to make sure to NOT waste you time(Hence the Time Markers). Some viewers have time to watch it all, and others just want to get to the point. Thanks for the support!
@Beanu1968
@Beanu1968 8 жыл бұрын
+1989Muppet Huh, I wonder why?
@thatoneasianguy10221
@thatoneasianguy10221 8 жыл бұрын
Such a well shot and edited video, amazing amount of work, effort, and dedication! The quality really shows, and what you're doing for the firearms community is very appreciated. Thank you for the outstanding material! Liked and subscribed.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jimmy! Means a lot. Thank you for all the support. MUCH MORE COMING.
@RekzysTheTitan
@RekzysTheTitan 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought the dp12 was just two KSG's welded together
@myusername3689
@myusername3689 4 жыл бұрын
It kinda is.
@slave7022
@slave7022 3 жыл бұрын
It's more of a ksg with and extra barrel.
@jasonmundt4206
@jasonmundt4206 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for letting us know you have a double digit IQ
@Gambit-jo4rw
@Gambit-jo4rw 7 ай бұрын
PERFECT vid, unbiased, very thoroughly in explaining and not just saying like if the audience should know already-experts and BEGINNERS watch. New with this and understood everything thanks for explaining and not just “oh look what I have this is cool.” These types of vids are supposed to be educational, not show and tell, other channels can’t comprehend that. I was literally deciding between these two and you’ve gave great camera angle, multiple different stress tests scenarios, time markers (to avoid wasting time), and things as a newcomer I wouldn’t have considered into perspective I’ve realized which best suits me specifically, thanks.
@THEZWARRIORWAR
@THEZWARRIORWAR 8 жыл бұрын
Best firearm reviews in the Internet! Very entertaining, honest, amazing quality of video. Keep it up
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jbanks4375
@jbanks4375 4 жыл бұрын
Great video but need to watch Hickock 45, he explains the problems, it's not the gun, it's the aluminum shell casing, they stick. Best to use brass, smooth loading. Try it out, you'll see.
@moe4772
@moe4772 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to this man. I could not figure out why my 12ga pump and my Semi-Auto 12ga would jam suddenly. I stopped using aluminum Shells and it made a drastic difference! ALOT of people have trouble with the red Winchester as well, so yeah kinda like double trouble...
@doctorprepper5196
@doctorprepper5196 4 жыл бұрын
I want to thank Tim Tebow for doing this review.
@VanXHydrA
@VanXHydrA 3 жыл бұрын
Ahahahaha
@jacobcraig2891
@jacobcraig2891 3 жыл бұрын
Bwahaha
@alternative7586
@alternative7586 2 жыл бұрын
Muahahaha
@tlmorris513
@tlmorris513 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@matthewrodriguez7967
@matthewrodriguez7967 4 жыл бұрын
For the ksg you can put the selector switch in the middle so you don’t have to switch it after the first 7 shots. It automatically switches from barrel to barrel.
@trapez6271
@trapez6271 Жыл бұрын
OMG No videos mention this!!! Thanks!
@rwplm
@rwplm Жыл бұрын
KSG owner here. That is false. It cannot cycle and you can't even load it if the mag tube selector switch is in the middle. If anything, it functions as a second safety.
@rwplm
@rwplm Жыл бұрын
​​@@trapez6271Don't listen to him he's full of it. If you put the selector switch in the middle if prevents both tubes from loading. I own a KSG and I have tried it myself in the past
@trapez6271
@trapez6271 Жыл бұрын
@@rwplm thanks for verifying that, i read that somewhere a few weeks back 👊
@urbanswagaddict
@urbanswagaddict Жыл бұрын
​@@rwplmI started smiling until I saw your reply. I own the ksg also and got excited to test that out.
@RNJuiceable
@RNJuiceable 2 жыл бұрын
I think Standard Manufacturing must have made minor changes since this video. I've had zero (0) misfeeds or misfires since purchasing mine in Fall 2021 -- it's been 100% perfect. I'm glad they got those issues worked out :)
@kbkesq
@kbkesq Жыл бұрын
How many shells do you have through it now?
@DDDYLN
@DDDYLN 7 ай бұрын
If the KSG had a feature that fed both tubes, without having to hit the switch to feed from the other tube, it would be a great home defense pump shotgun. I'm not suggesting they change the ability to select just one tube. But, you shouldn't have to hit a switch after one tube is empty. This causes you to break your grip and aim. These are essentially home defense shotguns. In that situation, it's undesirable to break your grip in order to engage the 2nd tube.
@felixfernandez1023
@felixfernandez1023 8 жыл бұрын
Having worked with both, I believe the DP-12 to be the superior of the two......good speed and smooth action. Love the double barrel feature.
@brenchyalowicois6748
@brenchyalowicois6748 3 жыл бұрын
It’s also like twice the price
@myusername3689
@myusername3689 3 жыл бұрын
@@brenchyalowicois6748 Yeah it’s 2 ksgs welded together of course it costs twice as much.
@toddbowser9415
@toddbowser9415 3 жыл бұрын
@@brenchyalowicois6748 And twice the quality. Wouldn’t pay a plug nickel for that KSG piece of crap
@MrLunchHour2
@MrLunchHour2 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddbowser9415 the early ones yes but they fixed all the kinks. My ksg has been 100% reliable
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddbowser9415 plug nickel? How old are you? 150 years old?
@Miokomata
@Miokomata 5 жыл бұрын
KSG is my to go shotgun for home defense, and its pink :3 For the selector switch i installed a longer one and use my wrist to flick it over to switch tubes.
@HoeLeeSheet
@HoeLeeSheet 5 жыл бұрын
Haha pathetic you use a shotgun for home defense. Use an Ar15 wont hit your family in a hostage situation.
@mahbuddykeith1124
@mahbuddykeith1124 5 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet At the ranges you'd expect indoors, a shotgun is a rifle for all intents and purposes; the spread will be fist-sized if you shoot across the room. There's that and the fact that not everyone has access to an AR-15 for home defence. You could live in Canada or, even worse, California.
@ricrusso7347
@ricrusso7347 5 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet Yes you are correct but an Ar15 round will penetrate drywalls like swiz cheese!!!, you have to think about what's on the other side of multiple walls!!!. The best home defense system is to use a good quality handgun or what I do is I have two weapons systems ready to go close to me for just an intruder or all-out "zombie apocalypse". Fight like you train and this is what 20+ years of military service has burnt into my muscle memory, I never went to combat without my P226 and my M4!!!. "Always outnumbered, Never Outmanned"
@steveroberts619
@steveroberts619 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet An AR for close quarters home defense? Come on man that's ridiculous. Pistol first, shotgun 2nd and then my AR pistol. Hopefully never have to find out which works best. 90% of gun owners wouldn't think a shotgun is pathetic.
@SKtube0
@SKtube0 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet Do you even own a shotgun? Almost everyone I know who has one would go for it for home defense especially over an AR. Using an AR doesn't guarantee that you wont hit your family in a hostage situation. Chances are, you're going to wind up shooting a member of your own family.
@Hahner88
@Hahner88 5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say excellent video! Very professional and well put together. So real quick I'm overseas so have way to much time on my hands. I have watched probably 50 reviews between the KSG and the DP-12. I like both but will choose the DP-12 more than likely. I dunno if it is just the DP-12 you have but this is the only video with the issues of misfeeds and soft primer strikes. Maybe user error short shucking because your going back and forth and the KSG is smaller. You obviously have a ton of experience with shotguns but just noticed none of the other videos have this issue and the DP-12 looks pretty flawless besides this video.
@onoes9646
@onoes9646 8 жыл бұрын
That LaRue target rises like something out of a horror movie.
@christopheranthony6965
@christopheranthony6965 7 ай бұрын
Again 7Yrs. later, but was that because he just shot the crap out of the base of it? Or do they always function that way?
@Solidslayerr
@Solidslayerr 5 жыл бұрын
Just from my own experience, the KSG absolutely hates those short neck aluminum shells and gets sticky like that with them as well. Most notably the Remmington target load shells, bound up like crazy. No problems with high necked shells, or short neck brass ones. Kel Tek themselves told me they don't intend them to use the short neck ones, just a thing with the KSG extractor. Had the thing for about 5 years now and still love it, just gotta experiment around with ammo a bit.
@MyGamingParadise80
@MyGamingParadise80 8 жыл бұрын
Hands down you have some of the most Complete reviews i've seen. Thank you!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@prettyrickyfromva
@prettyrickyfromva 8 жыл бұрын
finally someone who doesn't curse every 2 seconds so I can watch videos around my house without headphones
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
I will never allow cursing in my videos on GY6vids. I will either bleep them out or cut them out. Promise you that.
@prettyrickyfromva
@prettyrickyfromva 8 жыл бұрын
It's definitely appreciated thank you!!
@05crrt
@05crrt 8 жыл бұрын
GY6vids thank you for the video I'm getting the KSG Friday 2-24-17 can you do a vid for KSG vs Utas vs dp12 OR. something vs the Utas ...PS you could host a gun safety class here in FL ur awesome
@bc_usa
@bc_usa 7 жыл бұрын
05crrt ..i hope you didn't buy the KSG...The DP-12 Is far better. There are a lot of DP-12 videos on KZbin and this is the ONLY one where this guy was having problems with it..i own one and I have had no problems at all...better than burning your wrist off from the KSG.
@05crrt
@05crrt 7 жыл бұрын
USA- USA yes I bought one , have to say I've very happy with it. I had a few rounds jam. that was due to me NOT the firearm .. operator error but since then no problems
@leisergeist
@leisergeist 8 жыл бұрын
I'm still continually impressed by how well shot (pun intended) and edited these videos are Well done man
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! always good to hear, and EXTREME amount of time and money goes into producing them.
@brettlacher4159
@brettlacher4159 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. Totally top notch quality and VERY fair to both platforms. Many pros and cons to be to be sure. Because price was certainly a big factor (and quite frankly, they both seemed about on par) I went with a KSG. I still love the DP12 and would love to own one. After shooting the KSG, I can thankfully say that the rounds clear my wrists and I have never been bitten by a single round. I wonder if this is a change in Gen 3 or if my wrists are just a little smaller than yours (or we hold the platform differently; I think my grip is in a different spot). Likely the latter. I am 6' 192lbs btw, so not a small man, so for all those reading, don't automatically assume the rounds will hurt your wrist like they did his. If they DID I was willing to take that chance, as if I need to pull her out in home defense, I couldn't give two shits less about a bruise lol.
@emburgess7186
@emburgess7186 8 жыл бұрын
I have a ksg 1st gen. I took it out of the box an check the bore to make sure it was clear then fired two rounds thur it an then put it in the safe for 2 years. I finally took it out an wanted to pattern it. Fired five rounds 2 3/4 Oo buck. Had some light primer strikes an failure to fire. Then shot a round of trap with the 2 3/4 target loads an had fun but again lots of lite primer strikes an failure to fire. Field stripped an noticed a lot of sticky cosmeline type crap on the bolt an bolt carrier. Cleaned all off with WD40 went back to the range an fired six 2 3/4 target loads an three 3 inch number 2 shot...no malfunctions. I'm guessing a lot of folks must have experienced this same problem. I did notice the 3 inch shells chambered easier than the 2 3/4's probably cause that's what the keltec is clambered for...my suggestion is make sure you completely clean any cosmeline off the internal parts an lubricate before shooting.
@jamesthomas8112
@jamesthomas8112 5 жыл бұрын
You were very informative and I thank you. I was on the fence between the two guns. I'm going with the ksg on the price factor, accuracy, and ease of stripping down.
@craigroberts6439
@craigroberts6439 2 жыл бұрын
I put the shell deflector from Mcarbo on my KSG Gen 2….really protects the wrist. Lots of fun upgrades for the gun….all making it look more bad ass. Thank you for a great video. Not only informative but your on camera demeanor is terrific.
@heathcliffe8446
@heathcliffe8446 8 жыл бұрын
I have a few bullpup shotguns and the KSG is one of my favorites. Love the vids. Yours and Hickok's are definitely the best. Thank you for the quality content.
@shirleynewsome6616
@shirleynewsome6616 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought KSG, can't wait to shoot, ordered choke tube and recoil pad also scope.
@MrMarjaani
@MrMarjaani 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah....not for $1300 bucks....almost twice the price of the KSG and all of these issues? I'm good. Great vid.
@thedailyvariety4407
@thedailyvariety4407 4 жыл бұрын
KAMP- I agree 1,000%.
@YardieSmoke1
@YardieSmoke1 4 жыл бұрын
imgone What does the DP have over the KSG?
@Superman-xr1oh
@Superman-xr1oh 4 жыл бұрын
@@YardieSmoke1 Nothing.
@Mr.J281
@Mr.J281 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me decide that I’m sticking with purchasing a KSG
@genestarwind7
@genestarwind7 4 жыл бұрын
Nah bro it is 100% worth it ... the first gen dp12s might have had quirks but I've never had the issues this guy had ... its the best shotgun money can buy IMO .... and yes I even say it's better than the m4.
@kwanmartin2914
@kwanmartin2914 7 жыл бұрын
When shooting the dp12 you can not hold the trigger down while racking the slide. By doing so it will not allow the trigger to reset which in turn causes a weak hammer fall or it will not fall at all.
@Omen_Seven
@Omen_Seven 8 жыл бұрын
lmao That ending was a lot like a Top Gear verdict: "So between the KSG and the DP-12, I recommend the Remington 870." I know that's not what you were getting at, but it just made me think of that. And really though, it is a very good point. I mean, they're 12 gauge shotguns for god's sake; quite possibly the simplest principle of all firearms. Put shell in chamber. Pull trigger. Gun goes boom. Shot goes somewhere in front of you. These two guns, unless you're going to need that higher capacity, its really just a matter of how much you're willing to pay complicate a simple prospect. I mean I do like both guns and they'd be a blast to own, but for my money, I'd probably just grab myself an 870 as well.
@nellsonstout7001
@nellsonstout7001 8 жыл бұрын
If agree with that verdict, but if I didn't have a choice between the two, if choose the DP-12
@nellsonstout7001
@nellsonstout7001 8 жыл бұрын
I'd choose
@lucernhammer
@lucernhammer 7 жыл бұрын
anyone who advocates for the remington 870 hasn't shot a new one terrible ejection I'd go mossberg
@toddk9044
@toddk9044 6 жыл бұрын
lucernhammer Not all newer 870 models have problems. However I would say for the $, no one should have any issues, but you can thank The Freedom Group that bought out Remington for that. For sure, you can't go wrong with a mossberg.
@SVTsupercharged
@SVTsupercharged 6 жыл бұрын
More shells can be the difference between life and death. I'll take more over less any day.
@mengh78
@mengh78 7 жыл бұрын
I had some light primer strike on my DP-12 right out of the box shooting today... That was one of the problems. The other problem is that one round would fire but the other one won't let me pull the trigger. I was shooting the Fiocchi ammo... After I went home, disassemble the shotgun, clean it, oil it ,and switch to Estate Super Sport, the problem went away. It's the weirdest thing ever!!!!
@rst2145
@rst2145 4 жыл бұрын
When I 1st got my dp12 I had to send it back to the factory for repair because it was shooting both rounds at the same time .... so there is a way. Now it's functioning as advertised
@moe4772
@moe4772 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if it had that option to switch though... Can you imagine shooting two 3" slugs at the same time? Kinda like a midget on redbull trying to punch you in the side lol
@nayr8965
@nayr8965 Жыл бұрын
I own and run a ksg. With practice, you can get the hang of reaching back with the thumb on your fire hand. It is a bit uncomfortable, but it's a game changer.
@Dylan-gs9sm
@Dylan-gs9sm 8 жыл бұрын
Getting the DP 12 Thursday thank you so much for helping to resolve the feeding issuing when pointing downward
@mwurslin7152
@mwurslin7152 3 жыл бұрын
Finally!! an informative review that offers both honest pros and cons. Unlike a lot of the "I don't like it so you shouldn't like it either" reviews... I really appreciate you just giving the facts and leaving the choice up to the viewer. I feel like the DP-12 is definitely a more robust gun but the KSG is more compact and I like that you can select between two different types of rounds if you want. Thanks for the review.
@donkeyhong7423
@donkeyhong7423 8 жыл бұрын
Having used the KSG and owning a DP12 I prefer the DP12 to the KSG. The KSG after breaking it down 10-15 times, cleaning, oiling, and making sure it was reassembled at a relatives house, he and I spent more time doing that than shooting it. He eventually sold it just to get rid of it . The DP12 I have owned for a year now and i have never broken it down or cleaned it after having shot 6-7 hundred rounds through it. I have experienced however as in this video the light primer strikes of the DP12. At most i would say its been 5-10 shells that failed to fire. Now I havnt broken it down to see whats going on in there whether it is a factory issue or a ammo issue even though i highly doubt its the ammo do to the light dimple on the back of the shell. Price difference is significant to i paid 1400 before taxes on mine but to me it was worth it. All in all though i love the DP12 it has a velvety smooth action but neither make good skeet guns lol.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your personal experience, sorry to hear youve had such issues. That sucks;-/
@donkeyhong7423
@donkeyhong7423 8 жыл бұрын
+GY6vids you should do a dp12 vid with aguila mini shells lol. thanks for the awesome vids
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be cool! The DP-12 can dump shells so fast it would be a crazy time for sure!
@DGCON44444444
@DGCON44444444 Ай бұрын
Bought my Ksg12 second batch years ago . Still have it love it no problems at all . Still watch this video to date
@bad_company5.03
@bad_company5.03 8 жыл бұрын
Great review. Never fired the DP12, I own a KSG. Love it. I like being able to put buck in one mag and slug in the other. The weight is also a big factor between the two. Ensuring that I fully pumped it each time was the hardest thing to train. No short stroking. It will not feed if you do. When you are looking at 1400+ or 800+ and need a red dot or any other additions, the KSG is the best way to go. Plus the extra 600 gets you a lot of buck and slugs ;)
@jbmcfarland
@jbmcfarland 10 ай бұрын
Just (end of Feb 24) picked up the DP-12 From Palmetto State Armory for just around $999!!! Haven't even gotten out to the field to shoot it yet, but excited to. Great video! New subscriber!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 10 ай бұрын
It’s a fun shotgun. And I’ve heard they fixed some of the issues I found
@MegaLucario95
@MegaLucario95 4 жыл бұрын
This video made me make up my mind between the two, went with the KSG. Literally no issues at all since i bought it, and it’s an absolute blast to fire all 15 rounds in rapid succession.
@baseball-dude4252
@baseball-dude4252 2 жыл бұрын
Do you still like it? I'm thinking about buying a ksg 12
@JohnGardiner-e9q
@JohnGardiner-e9q Жыл бұрын
A place called Hitec has a lot of great upgrades for the KSG. They have a longer tube selector so no need to change your grip to switch tubes
@ChristianGames316
@ChristianGames316 8 жыл бұрын
you don't have to flip the KSG to switch tubes... you can change it with your wrist. which includes on accident!
@TheFXCELESSOne
@TheFXCELESSOne 8 жыл бұрын
Is your name for real
@ChristianGames316
@ChristianGames316 8 жыл бұрын
+Slash Poison lol I'm a male nurse. murse ... Mursenary... lol
@nickshumar4553
@nickshumar4553 8 жыл бұрын
+TheMursenary that is possibly the most creative name I've seen, love it
@GeorgePerakis
@GeorgePerakis 8 жыл бұрын
Have you ever watched Scrubs?
@ChristianGames316
@ChristianGames316 8 жыл бұрын
haha thanks guys. and nah, never watched any medical based show except House.
@arrowgantonegreen839
@arrowgantonegreen839 4 жыл бұрын
A Google search brought me here four years after the video was made. With a pandemic going on, rioting, and violence going sky high; anticipate this video getting a lot of new views between now and November. A KSG sold on an online auction today for over $1600. Kel-Tec is out of stock and distributors have NO idea if / when they will be manufacturing / shipping more KSG's. (You can get a tricked out DP-12 for $1700+; they have plenty in stock.) I am going with the KSG. This was a GREAT video. Awesome video angles and slow mo, great graphics, editing well done. You took two things I needed a direct comparison of and gave me a fair evaluation while sitting on my ass. I thank you and my lazy ass thanks you. (As odd as this will sound, I do not own a single short sleeved shirt or wife beater. The wrist burn shouldn't be an issue for me. Hopefully I don't set a shirt on fire.)
@danielcs10
@danielcs10 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man, you have some of the greatest reviews I've seen on KZbin, great job! It's fun and it's complete on information. Ps: I'm Brazilian and unfortunately we aren't allowed to have guns, but fortunately I've been learning a lot about them with you guys, thanks a lot!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them! Much more to come...thank you for the support.
@silentlyobserve
@silentlyobserve 4 жыл бұрын
Are you ambidextrous? Just curious because you shot the guns from both shoulders.
@mysticaldragon2740
@mysticaldragon2740 8 жыл бұрын
Watched both your first review of the DP-12 and now this one (came across this one accidentally) . Both well done and I love the honest opinions given based on your observations. As others have said it is refreshing and well done.
@willegard2
@willegard2 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see GY6vids? I like GY6vids video. On another note, great video! Thank you! Love from Sweden!
@donniedarko1345
@donniedarko1345 4 жыл бұрын
Bought my KSG today. Great comparison with the DP...glad I went with the KSG even more now! Nice review.
@Oak_And_Iron
@Oak_And_Iron 8 жыл бұрын
Hell of a review. Knows his stuff and has GOOD quality.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@aaaaa1957
@aaaaa1957 2 жыл бұрын
Addressing the cons on the KSG, the first one is there a spent casing deflector available now and for the selector switch there a longer replacement available so you can now toggle between tubes with your wrist so you no longer need to go off target to switch between tubes.
@makerofmanythings8447
@makerofmanythings8447 4 жыл бұрын
Man that KSG looks so good in that color. Love mine it's black and I can hit a 12" gong at 150 yards with slugs, I Have a Holosun 506C on it.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@sunshine681
@sunshine681 4 жыл бұрын
@@GY6vids Very nice!!! The length of the hallway in my house is about 50', so I don't really care about rounds on target at 450'... (that's why I have a .308) Due to the mis-fires in this video, though, I would not choose the DP-12, regardless of Hickok45's review ;)
@1skottymac
@1skottymac 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thorough comparison. I've watched a few videos on these guns. This video was the one to help me decide to purchase the KSG. (I already have a few Mossbergs!) The quality of your presentation is better than the others I viewed.
@billblake4029
@billblake4029 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic review Andrew. I really appreciate your time,efforts and sincerity. Thank you and please keep up the great work.
@tyjacc5
@tyjacc5 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh! Great illustration of both shotguns. I just bought the DP-12, haven't tested it out yet but can't wait.
@gdancoleman
@gdancoleman 5 жыл бұрын
Best bullpup review I've seen. Great info and thorough too. Thanks a bunch! Now I know the KSG is right for me.
@whitesmotoadv
@whitesmotoadv 10 ай бұрын
There is a shell deflector available now to prevent the shells hitting your wrist and there is a selector extension which makes it very easy and fast to switch tubs.
@makerofmanythings8447
@makerofmanythings8447 4 жыл бұрын
I have an extended tube selector that I can switch tubes with a flick of my wrist on my KSG..
@TheBinarySon
@TheBinarySon 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for following up with the issue with the DP-12!
@D3thM3tal
@D3thM3tal 8 жыл бұрын
Watching the slow-mo these guns are flexing quite a bit - I wonder if that is contributing to the issues that crop up when you are rapid firing. Either way - great review. I'm leaning towards the KSG due to the centered barrel and consistent target acquisition.
@TheFXCELESSOne
@TheFXCELESSOne 8 жыл бұрын
Except the fact of the shells flying out and hitting your wrist.
@maniacmatt1782
@maniacmatt1782 8 жыл бұрын
+Slash Poison deflector available or don't hold your elbow in so much so your wrist isn't tucked directly under. I don't have a deflector and have no issues with it hitting my wrist.
@Wedelj
@Wedelj 8 жыл бұрын
Also, you can't put the DP-12 on safe after shooting one barrel. You have to either shoot both barrels or dump a live round out to put on safe.
@Omen_Seven
@Omen_Seven 8 жыл бұрын
I think its a combination of the parts just expanding with heat (he did mention that it only happened after 150 rounds or so), and the fact that shotguns like this are notorious for misbehaving if you repeatedly fire them as quickly as he was; especially something like the UTAS UTS-15, but that thing has so many other problems, its hard to pick just one. I did notice though that the DP-12 didn't seem to flex nearly as much as the KSG.
@TheFXCELESSOne
@TheFXCELESSOne 8 жыл бұрын
maniacmatt1782 true true but the fact is, that it is a base shotgun review honestly would not buy either to many cons for the price
@Dante95240
@Dante95240 8 жыл бұрын
I watched a video where the guy stuffed 24 Aguila mini shot shells in the KSG and it worked perfectly. Interesting, great educational video you did!
@mk45gunnr25
@mk45gunnr25 8 жыл бұрын
I must be perpetually 13 years old (I'm actually 44). Every time he said "girth" I heard Beavis and Butthead laughing!
@ne5409
@ne5409 3 жыл бұрын
😜😂
@rst9229
@rst9229 Жыл бұрын
When I 1st got my DP12 it always shot both barrels at once. Talk about packing a punch! I sent it back to the company & when I got it back it performed how it should. I should've left it how it was lol
@Texan1939
@Texan1939 8 жыл бұрын
double tap 12 gauge: first the knees,second the torso. . . done!
@RJ-su8wk
@RJ-su8wk 4 жыл бұрын
Great review...thank you! I’ll still use my Benelli M4 though.
@SpoolinVR
@SpoolinVR 5 жыл бұрын
The slow motion at 13:24 was bad ass. I want a video of myself like that 💪
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chadbabcock4194
@chadbabcock4194 8 жыл бұрын
To help with the "sticky" or the increased resistance caused from the heat and expanding parts don't use gun lube. Strip down, wipe all that off and apply a thin coat of grease. I used Lucas red and tacky #2 and really helped with my KSG.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Grease/oil combo is all I use on Shotguns now days, and its what I used for this video as well...the sticking isn't coming from the moving parts, its the stuck spent shells and ejectors.
@chadbabcock4194
@chadbabcock4194 8 жыл бұрын
GY6vids well i have no experienced with the DP-12 only with my KSG. the grease i use did help, but you'd be correct to say that i still have those issues. yet it only seems to be prevalent during fast fire situations when the heat become abundant. I've experienced this with many new shotguns that aren't broken in yet. so perhaps it's just part of the break in process? the smoothing of the chamber to help the expanded metal caps?
@supersoberano2095
@supersoberano2095 5 жыл бұрын
Slow down on those times you’re trying to speed up. You’re short stroking it and creating the yam. On the one barrel one. Slower means faster when short stroking occurs.
@supersoberano2095
@supersoberano2095 5 жыл бұрын
Redo that testing going slower and you will see I’m correct.
@user-qo7qc5em5t
@user-qo7qc5em5t 4 жыл бұрын
I hate yams
@atomicbill
@atomicbill 11 ай бұрын
I have a ksg12 . I highly recommend installing a Howitzer70 muzzle brake as it reduces recoil by 70%! No bruises after 50 slugs. Barely noticeable soreness.
@MacSOGAdventureInternational
@MacSOGAdventureInternational 8 жыл бұрын
Great Vid, I got the KSG because of this vid. Thanks for posting!
@overriidee
@overriidee 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I watched this video like yesterday or 2 days ago I just wanted to say you said the details very good And that you added time stamps in the description is just amazing Great video man, keep up!
@l4hv1n3k
@l4hv1n3k 8 жыл бұрын
if money isnt a problem, then buy AA-12
@jussayinmipeece1069
@jussayinmipeece1069 4 жыл бұрын
you cant. its sold only to the military
@evschulze2781
@evschulze2781 4 жыл бұрын
@@jussayinmipeece1069 Not quite true. Semi-Auto AA-12's use to be on the market till about September of 2019, but the ATF recently declared them as destructive devices as they "had potential to be converted to full auto" and have since prevented the selling of AA-12 on the civilian market
@AnonYmous-hu7jo
@AnonYmous-hu7jo 4 жыл бұрын
jussayin mipeece Pfft, do basic training. So... you CAN.
@Superman-xr1oh
@Superman-xr1oh 4 жыл бұрын
@@evschulze2781 That's a dumb reason. By that logic, an ar 15 could also be converted to full auto, or an ak 47. That can't be the reason.
@Boddah.
@Boddah. 3 жыл бұрын
@@Superman-xr1oh Funny you should say that, they're going after the AR.
@jadams2013
@jadams2013 Жыл бұрын
Good vid, thanks! After shooting a box thru my KSG I found that I had a tender spot on my wrist... lasted a couple of days. Nothing severe. A few days later I repeated but wore a wrisr band. That works! If i were going to shoot it all the time I might get a deflector but no more than I do it doesn't seem necessary. Not like it is major pain.
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 5 жыл бұрын
The faster you try to pump a bullpup, the more likely to accidentally short-shuck it, causing jams.
@Chayonray
@Chayonray 8 жыл бұрын
Outstanding comparison between the pros and cons of these two bullpup shotguns. My takeaway, is that neither are optimal for 3 in shells (which I question anyway for home defense) and both need to be cleaned well before 150 rounds.
@brettlacher4159
@brettlacher4159 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review; very impressed with the thoroughness and honesty. I'm still debating on which to get personally, but this review has shed a lot of light on the pros and cons. I am especially interested in those failure to fires in the DP12, which I primarily wanted more due to it's supposed increased reliability. Thanks for the great video.
@connorlafferty728
@connorlafferty728 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man I know you put a lot of time and energy into this video and I really appreciate it. Really helped me with making the decision between the two... I'm going with the KSG! Anyways thanks again keep up the really good videos thank you!!
@krisspofford
@krisspofford 8 жыл бұрын
nice video.. Ur good at what you do.... keep it up!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you....appreciate the support.
@danielahammel648
@danielahammel648 Жыл бұрын
I was going to get a dp-12 but changed my mind and got a ati bulldog bullpup and love it way more with no problems
@1crimm
@1crimm 8 жыл бұрын
great stuff as always
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Dirty_Dan_Tactical
@Dirty_Dan_Tactical 8 жыл бұрын
+GY6vids I love your videos and may I ask "have you ever played airsoft or paintball"?
@keith0677
@keith0677 3 жыл бұрын
Over 500 rounds in my ksg. So far I have to say its one of the 3 best guns keltek makes. kag, and sub 2000 and cmr30. Have had no issues with any of them.
@joesumcock886
@joesumcock886 8 жыл бұрын
Between the two, KSG. But, I'll stick with my 870, she's never done me wrong. _ The sticky rounds might be the Winchester you're using.. I've had to butt-stroke more than a few of them out. __ Awesome video! *~Spoiler~* After 30min of watching, the best bullpup IS? The 870! LOL
@grant6620
@grant6620 8 жыл бұрын
The 870 is about a 4th of the cost of both
@unknownunknown-vd4ev
@unknownunknown-vd4ev 8 жыл бұрын
is your 870 tactical
@grant6620
@grant6620 8 жыл бұрын
+unknown33 unknown33 mine is
@joesumcock886
@joesumcock886 8 жыл бұрын
Super Tactical.. It's got a black stock and everything.. (Snark) _ 870 Mag express, w/ 18" cly, Short Lop Hogue stock&forend, streamline sidesaddle, and +2 extension. My cheapest, and most adored firearm.
@gunner4q
@gunner4q 8 жыл бұрын
sticky problems usually are related to 'shell quality'.. I once shot some cheap shells that left a coating in the barrel that after about 20 rounds I had use a rod to bang them out, like a muzzle loader!... switched to Remington and never had a problem!
@nephitidwell192
@nephitidwell192 4 жыл бұрын
I just picked a KSG in a trade. I was looking around on the WEB to educate myself on this gun. Thank you for this video. Well done.
@commandogregor6981
@commandogregor6981 8 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, and you also did a great job on the editing and setup. Keep it up!
@RightWingNutter
@RightWingNutter 8 жыл бұрын
Just a note on the KSG wrist problem. I learned to shoot with my left elbow tucked under the forestock, and my right elbow out to the side, more or less level with the butt. I kept that habit when shooting pistol grip long guns. So when I rack my KSG the shell drops well clear of my wrist. It's hard to change long practiced shooting styles I know, but mine works on that gun.
@SomeDiscussionRecommended
@SomeDiscussionRecommended 8 жыл бұрын
Damn, he powdered that pidgeon. Slow-mo really added to this.
@MasterJ202
@MasterJ202 3 жыл бұрын
The DP-12 needs an indicator window on the top or side so you can easily look at it and tell which barrel hasn't been shot out of yet which I'm not too sure how you would do that because the shells stay in there but it's a thought
@MANNY100123
@MANNY100123 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always, Andrew!
@CPalanysamy
@CPalanysamy 4 жыл бұрын
I normally find gun youtubers annoying because won't stop jiggling or cursing. I appreciate this guy's seriousness
@benjibanks7894
@benjibanks7894 8 жыл бұрын
All that big $$$ for the dp and what do ya get? miss fire. Looks like I'm going with the ksg.
@krashncat
@krashncat 6 жыл бұрын
Love my KSG
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