Checkout my video shooting John Wick 4 shotgun with Dragons Breath HERE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKOadKRnlM-Zhqs
@tylerw14189 ай бұрын
7 years later this video is still impressive, and helpful. Just purchased my KSG and love it. Thank you sir.
@GY6vids9 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!😎🤝
@tylerw14188 ай бұрын
@@GY6vids 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@ThatxGuyxUxKnow8 ай бұрын
I bought mine yesterday:)
@Kaermon29 күн бұрын
@@ThatxGuyxUxKnow Bought my KSG a week ago, am loving it! I do plan on getting the extended selector switch so you can change tubes by flicking your wrist. Will make it much simpler.
@ryanscottm4 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best comparison videos - not just for guns but of anything - that I've seen. Got me from the start with the time stamps and again at the end with the whole "don't discount the 500 or 870" reality check. Honest reviews not driven by manufacturer pressure. Just awesome.
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
HEY!!! Got am idea...gonna run the DP-12 again in a video, and we will see its fast double tap in action(Cant tell you what, ruin the surprise LOL)...Granted the double tap with 12 gauge isn't the most accurate but it can be VERY ENTERTAINING in certain situations! The speed of the DP-12 and its crisp trigger, will make for some fun! LIKE this comment if you're down for some more DP-12 stuff....
@barryjustice86568 жыл бұрын
Yes, please! The DP-12 should excel at a double tap drill. The fast double tap, ammo capacity and pump reliability is why I'm purchasing a DP-12 for home defense.
@barryjustice86568 жыл бұрын
Oh I forgot...ALWAYS DOUBLE TAP!!!
@jnbaker74228 жыл бұрын
You should get vambraces for the ksg.
@aaronkinard40738 жыл бұрын
pretty sure during your speed test that was operator error you were most definitely short stroking the action on both shotguns. alot of people give the ksg a bad reviews because they try to run it as fast as they can an in there rush tend to also short stroke the action. I have do it myself while speed firing a pump shotgun. good vid though
@TWISTEDSTRINGS698 жыл бұрын
I`m a little late to the show but I think they make a shell deflector for that now. No more snake bite !
@MW-jm8qb2 жыл бұрын
Great vid quality. Calm, non-obnoxious levels, no dopey funny shinnanigans, straight and to the point, nice slo-mo action, music fits, nice fade ins and outs. 10/10. Great Job !
@frederikclaeyssens92018 жыл бұрын
"hope you appreciate the quality..." Man, said it before and I'll gladly say it again: Your production quality is trough the roof. Excellent in every way. Thank you for the effort and the honest insight in both systems!
@steph17016 жыл бұрын
I have the KSG ... there is a shell deflector made by SMT Tactical to keep the shells off your wrist. There is also an enhanced tube selector that extends the tube selector to the point where you can switch the tubes with your wrist. Regardless ... Great unbiased vid. Good work!
@anxiousbeachbums Жыл бұрын
Good info.
@violator420018711 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Jglover324 ай бұрын
The selector switch is a huge “pro” imo. I can load slugs in one tube, buckshot in the other.
@Ocazzar8 жыл бұрын
for the ksg I use my wrist guard I use for bow shooting and it deflects those shells great
@BetaBuxDelux5 жыл бұрын
Ocazzar smart man
@hjburgess5 жыл бұрын
I don't have the problem of the shells hitting my wrist
@jamiesmith68385 жыл бұрын
That's what i was thinking. Small mod or polyurethane wristband!
@Combatzx25 жыл бұрын
@@hjburgess same here man.. was news to me too
@brianknight22824 жыл бұрын
I had a problem with it shooting out on my fucking nipple like smacking it
@RockLives4u8 жыл бұрын
This is a very professional and candid video presentation. I hope you continue to be honest in the future, and not give in to corporate pressures. Thanks It is a breath of fresh air in the world of product reviews
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Yeah it is rough fighting against the wants and needs of companies...everyone wants positive info spoke about their firearms, but honesty in my findings is #1, and it's very rarely 100% perfection on any of the firearms I review...but doesn't make any one gun horrible...but there are times a gun in HORRIBLE, and when that occurs, I'll tell you! Without the trust of my viewers...whats the point of doing reviews.
@texmex82207 жыл бұрын
So what do you think of the ksg. Me personally I am kinda liking it. In a fantasy tactical sense lol the selector switch makes for a quick reload. 7 then a quicker 7 than reloading a new 30 rd mag. With the dp12 once you run dry you either load both tubes or shoot one skip one. just a novice shooters 2 cents
@anderseckstrand70334 жыл бұрын
TexMex....That’s one of the problems I have with the DP-12. That and it weighs a ton!!!
@ag4allgood3 жыл бұрын
@@anderseckstrand7033 Do you use a sling for it ? That would help.
@dr.byronloyd47138 жыл бұрын
I watched your previous video on the DP-12 and how the cycling was a problem. I am glad that Standard Manufacturing has since corrected the problem. I own a DP-12 and have put many rounds through mine. I have never experienced the sticking of shells, and the action works flawlessly regardless of the angle I am holding the weapon. Thank you for bringing this issue to the attention of Standard which prompted them to fix this problem. I enjoy your videos.
@googlechicken Жыл бұрын
@@pomztoybox6877 me too and I’m sorry but if someone is clearing a building with there weapon pointed perpendicular to the floor tha that is a tactical issue not a mechanical one
@joshzolnierowicz30887 жыл бұрын
"click on the time stamps so i wont waste your time" *subs instantly*
@GY6vids7 жыл бұрын
My viewers time is valuable and I respect it. Sometime people just want to see the details and others want to see just shooting aspects...Want to give them the option. Welcome to GY6vids
@leokrupp44427 жыл бұрын
Dudes legit.
@jonathanblaine41216 жыл бұрын
Same. Mad respect to him for that.
@emmettmarbury65715 жыл бұрын
Lol
@markbrown16035 жыл бұрын
GY6vids i
@agentblammo6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great review. I am 100% certain which shotgun I'm going with (first). I love shotguns and have had my heart set on the KSG 25 since I came across it recently at a local gun shop. Then I saw the DP-12 which is most certainly boner-inspiring for pretty much any shotgun lover. After watching this entire review, I'm quite certain the overall better choice is the KSG, so I'll be going to pick mine up shortly. That said, I'm pretty sure I will be adding the DP-12 to my shotgun collection eventually as well.
@kennethkrajewski94435 жыл бұрын
Great review! In case anyone missed it. The ksg can also hold. 24. Mini slugs. That is huge. Love the mini slugs!
@tjnj22565 жыл бұрын
yep KSG is the only shotgun on market that runs ALL 12ga shells flawlessly
@vilador82294 жыл бұрын
So it’ll run them flawlessly? I’ve been wondering this
@RikuNoganashi4 жыл бұрын
@@vilador8229 I run the Aquila minishells in my KSG full time for security work, never had a single issue with them.
@graemeo34404 жыл бұрын
The KSG 25 holds 41 minishells.(with one in the pipe)
@andrewclegg41204 жыл бұрын
I have a KSG and use Aguila minishells, both slug and buck shot. You can put a max of 11 in each tube and they work flawlessly. I have shot well over 100 shells in one range visit, have had no miss feeds, no empty shell casings hit my wrist although my daughter did and the recoil is very much reduced by using a smaller shell.
@iouund3rtak3r135 жыл бұрын
No complaints about my KSG,,protects me and my family just fine,, and its a great gopher remover and camping protection. God bless, great video thanks..
@bonsaiocean5 жыл бұрын
Mr. TEN 13 ever have any problems with the shell bite like this man had?
@MegaLucario955 жыл бұрын
Adam Weight I haven’t, and i’ve cycled all 15 rounds multiple times.
@HoeLeeSheet5 жыл бұрын
I don't want a shotgun that's made out of beach plastic and plus shotguns are useless against home defense if I want something for home-defense I'll take an AR-15
@NoneyoBisniss5 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet That would be effective but not cool when the bullets blow through your (neighbors) walls and destroy things in the next room. #overpenetration
@honorablesteve60914 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet Not all polymers/plastics are the same, as should be obvious, despite that I doubt that the polymer that Keltec uses isn't good enough to last
@TheJrivera18 жыл бұрын
I'm picking up a DP-12 this weekend in my home state of CT. Thank you for the great review.
@littleike22288 жыл бұрын
Hey GY6 I appreciate all the time you took editing and including the time markers. Not enough people say thanks so thanks man, keep making awesome videos
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying thank you...its a ton of work and I want to make sure to NOT waste you time(Hence the Time Markers). Some viewers have time to watch it all, and others just want to get to the point. Thanks for the support!
@Beanu19688 жыл бұрын
+1989Muppet Huh, I wonder why?
@thatoneasianguy102218 жыл бұрын
Such a well shot and edited video, amazing amount of work, effort, and dedication! The quality really shows, and what you're doing for the firearms community is very appreciated. Thank you for the outstanding material! Liked and subscribed.
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jimmy! Means a lot. Thank you for all the support. MUCH MORE COMING.
@RekzysTheTitan6 жыл бұрын
I always thought the dp12 was just two KSG's welded together
@myusername36894 жыл бұрын
It kinda is.
@slave70223 жыл бұрын
It's more of a ksg with and extra barrel.
@jasonmundt420614 күн бұрын
Thanks for letting us know you have a double digit IQ
@Gambit-jo4rw7 ай бұрын
PERFECT vid, unbiased, very thoroughly in explaining and not just saying like if the audience should know already-experts and BEGINNERS watch. New with this and understood everything thanks for explaining and not just “oh look what I have this is cool.” These types of vids are supposed to be educational, not show and tell, other channels can’t comprehend that. I was literally deciding between these two and you’ve gave great camera angle, multiple different stress tests scenarios, time markers (to avoid wasting time), and things as a newcomer I wouldn’t have considered into perspective I’ve realized which best suits me specifically, thanks.
@THEZWARRIORWAR8 жыл бұрын
Best firearm reviews in the Internet! Very entertaining, honest, amazing quality of video. Keep it up
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jbanks43754 жыл бұрын
Great video but need to watch Hickock 45, he explains the problems, it's not the gun, it's the aluminum shell casing, they stick. Best to use brass, smooth loading. Try it out, you'll see.
@moe47724 жыл бұрын
Listen to this man. I could not figure out why my 12ga pump and my Semi-Auto 12ga would jam suddenly. I stopped using aluminum Shells and it made a drastic difference! ALOT of people have trouble with the red Winchester as well, so yeah kinda like double trouble...
@doctorprepper51964 жыл бұрын
I want to thank Tim Tebow for doing this review.
@VanXHydrA3 жыл бұрын
Ahahahaha
@jacobcraig28913 жыл бұрын
Bwahaha
@alternative75862 жыл бұрын
Muahahaha
@tlmorris513 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@matthewrodriguez79674 жыл бұрын
For the ksg you can put the selector switch in the middle so you don’t have to switch it after the first 7 shots. It automatically switches from barrel to barrel.
@trapez6271 Жыл бұрын
OMG No videos mention this!!! Thanks!
@rwplm Жыл бұрын
KSG owner here. That is false. It cannot cycle and you can't even load it if the mag tube selector switch is in the middle. If anything, it functions as a second safety.
@rwplm Жыл бұрын
@@trapez6271Don't listen to him he's full of it. If you put the selector switch in the middle if prevents both tubes from loading. I own a KSG and I have tried it myself in the past
@trapez6271 Жыл бұрын
@@rwplm thanks for verifying that, i read that somewhere a few weeks back 👊
@urbanswagaddict Жыл бұрын
@@rwplmI started smiling until I saw your reply. I own the ksg also and got excited to test that out.
@RNJuiceable2 жыл бұрын
I think Standard Manufacturing must have made minor changes since this video. I've had zero (0) misfeeds or misfires since purchasing mine in Fall 2021 -- it's been 100% perfect. I'm glad they got those issues worked out :)
@kbkesq Жыл бұрын
How many shells do you have through it now?
@DDDYLN7 ай бұрын
If the KSG had a feature that fed both tubes, without having to hit the switch to feed from the other tube, it would be a great home defense pump shotgun. I'm not suggesting they change the ability to select just one tube. But, you shouldn't have to hit a switch after one tube is empty. This causes you to break your grip and aim. These are essentially home defense shotguns. In that situation, it's undesirable to break your grip in order to engage the 2nd tube.
@felixfernandez10238 жыл бұрын
Having worked with both, I believe the DP-12 to be the superior of the two......good speed and smooth action. Love the double barrel feature.
@brenchyalowicois67483 жыл бұрын
It’s also like twice the price
@myusername36893 жыл бұрын
@@brenchyalowicois6748 Yeah it’s 2 ksgs welded together of course it costs twice as much.
@toddbowser94153 жыл бұрын
@@brenchyalowicois6748 And twice the quality. Wouldn’t pay a plug nickel for that KSG piece of crap
@MrLunchHour23 жыл бұрын
@@toddbowser9415 the early ones yes but they fixed all the kinks. My ksg has been 100% reliable
@2011blueman2 жыл бұрын
@@toddbowser9415 plug nickel? How old are you? 150 years old?
@Miokomata5 жыл бұрын
KSG is my to go shotgun for home defense, and its pink :3 For the selector switch i installed a longer one and use my wrist to flick it over to switch tubes.
@HoeLeeSheet5 жыл бұрын
Haha pathetic you use a shotgun for home defense. Use an Ar15 wont hit your family in a hostage situation.
@mahbuddykeith11245 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet At the ranges you'd expect indoors, a shotgun is a rifle for all intents and purposes; the spread will be fist-sized if you shoot across the room. There's that and the fact that not everyone has access to an AR-15 for home defence. You could live in Canada or, even worse, California.
@ricrusso73475 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet Yes you are correct but an Ar15 round will penetrate drywalls like swiz cheese!!!, you have to think about what's on the other side of multiple walls!!!. The best home defense system is to use a good quality handgun or what I do is I have two weapons systems ready to go close to me for just an intruder or all-out "zombie apocalypse". Fight like you train and this is what 20+ years of military service has burnt into my muscle memory, I never went to combat without my P226 and my M4!!!. "Always outnumbered, Never Outmanned"
@steveroberts6194 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet An AR for close quarters home defense? Come on man that's ridiculous. Pistol first, shotgun 2nd and then my AR pistol. Hopefully never have to find out which works best. 90% of gun owners wouldn't think a shotgun is pathetic.
@SKtube04 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet Do you even own a shotgun? Almost everyone I know who has one would go for it for home defense especially over an AR. Using an AR doesn't guarantee that you wont hit your family in a hostage situation. Chances are, you're going to wind up shooting a member of your own family.
@Hahner885 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say excellent video! Very professional and well put together. So real quick I'm overseas so have way to much time on my hands. I have watched probably 50 reviews between the KSG and the DP-12. I like both but will choose the DP-12 more than likely. I dunno if it is just the DP-12 you have but this is the only video with the issues of misfeeds and soft primer strikes. Maybe user error short shucking because your going back and forth and the KSG is smaller. You obviously have a ton of experience with shotguns but just noticed none of the other videos have this issue and the DP-12 looks pretty flawless besides this video.
@onoes96468 жыл бұрын
That LaRue target rises like something out of a horror movie.
@christopheranthony69657 ай бұрын
Again 7Yrs. later, but was that because he just shot the crap out of the base of it? Or do they always function that way?
@Solidslayerr5 жыл бұрын
Just from my own experience, the KSG absolutely hates those short neck aluminum shells and gets sticky like that with them as well. Most notably the Remmington target load shells, bound up like crazy. No problems with high necked shells, or short neck brass ones. Kel Tek themselves told me they don't intend them to use the short neck ones, just a thing with the KSG extractor. Had the thing for about 5 years now and still love it, just gotta experiment around with ammo a bit.
@MyGamingParadise808 жыл бұрын
Hands down you have some of the most Complete reviews i've seen. Thank you!
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@prettyrickyfromva8 жыл бұрын
finally someone who doesn't curse every 2 seconds so I can watch videos around my house without headphones
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
I will never allow cursing in my videos on GY6vids. I will either bleep them out or cut them out. Promise you that.
@prettyrickyfromva8 жыл бұрын
It's definitely appreciated thank you!!
@05crrt8 жыл бұрын
GY6vids thank you for the video I'm getting the KSG Friday 2-24-17 can you do a vid for KSG vs Utas vs dp12 OR. something vs the Utas ...PS you could host a gun safety class here in FL ur awesome
@bc_usa7 жыл бұрын
05crrt ..i hope you didn't buy the KSG...The DP-12 Is far better. There are a lot of DP-12 videos on KZbin and this is the ONLY one where this guy was having problems with it..i own one and I have had no problems at all...better than burning your wrist off from the KSG.
@05crrt7 жыл бұрын
USA- USA yes I bought one , have to say I've very happy with it. I had a few rounds jam. that was due to me NOT the firearm .. operator error but since then no problems
@leisergeist8 жыл бұрын
I'm still continually impressed by how well shot (pun intended) and edited these videos are Well done man
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! always good to hear, and EXTREME amount of time and money goes into producing them.
@brettlacher41597 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. Totally top notch quality and VERY fair to both platforms. Many pros and cons to be to be sure. Because price was certainly a big factor (and quite frankly, they both seemed about on par) I went with a KSG. I still love the DP12 and would love to own one. After shooting the KSG, I can thankfully say that the rounds clear my wrists and I have never been bitten by a single round. I wonder if this is a change in Gen 3 or if my wrists are just a little smaller than yours (or we hold the platform differently; I think my grip is in a different spot). Likely the latter. I am 6' 192lbs btw, so not a small man, so for all those reading, don't automatically assume the rounds will hurt your wrist like they did his. If they DID I was willing to take that chance, as if I need to pull her out in home defense, I couldn't give two shits less about a bruise lol.
@emburgess71868 жыл бұрын
I have a ksg 1st gen. I took it out of the box an check the bore to make sure it was clear then fired two rounds thur it an then put it in the safe for 2 years. I finally took it out an wanted to pattern it. Fired five rounds 2 3/4 Oo buck. Had some light primer strikes an failure to fire. Then shot a round of trap with the 2 3/4 target loads an had fun but again lots of lite primer strikes an failure to fire. Field stripped an noticed a lot of sticky cosmeline type crap on the bolt an bolt carrier. Cleaned all off with WD40 went back to the range an fired six 2 3/4 target loads an three 3 inch number 2 shot...no malfunctions. I'm guessing a lot of folks must have experienced this same problem. I did notice the 3 inch shells chambered easier than the 2 3/4's probably cause that's what the keltec is clambered for...my suggestion is make sure you completely clean any cosmeline off the internal parts an lubricate before shooting.
@jamesthomas81125 жыл бұрын
You were very informative and I thank you. I was on the fence between the two guns. I'm going with the ksg on the price factor, accuracy, and ease of stripping down.
@craigroberts64392 жыл бұрын
I put the shell deflector from Mcarbo on my KSG Gen 2….really protects the wrist. Lots of fun upgrades for the gun….all making it look more bad ass. Thank you for a great video. Not only informative but your on camera demeanor is terrific.
@heathcliffe84468 жыл бұрын
I have a few bullpup shotguns and the KSG is one of my favorites. Love the vids. Yours and Hickok's are definitely the best. Thank you for the quality content.
@shirleynewsome66163 жыл бұрын
Just bought KSG, can't wait to shoot, ordered choke tube and recoil pad also scope.
@MrMarjaani8 жыл бұрын
Yeah....not for $1300 bucks....almost twice the price of the KSG and all of these issues? I'm good. Great vid.
@thedailyvariety44074 жыл бұрын
KAMP- I agree 1,000%.
@YardieSmoke14 жыл бұрын
imgone What does the DP have over the KSG?
@Superman-xr1oh4 жыл бұрын
@@YardieSmoke1 Nothing.
@Mr.J2814 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me decide that I’m sticking with purchasing a KSG
@genestarwind74 жыл бұрын
Nah bro it is 100% worth it ... the first gen dp12s might have had quirks but I've never had the issues this guy had ... its the best shotgun money can buy IMO .... and yes I even say it's better than the m4.
@kwanmartin29147 жыл бұрын
When shooting the dp12 you can not hold the trigger down while racking the slide. By doing so it will not allow the trigger to reset which in turn causes a weak hammer fall or it will not fall at all.
@Omen_Seven8 жыл бұрын
lmao That ending was a lot like a Top Gear verdict: "So between the KSG and the DP-12, I recommend the Remington 870." I know that's not what you were getting at, but it just made me think of that. And really though, it is a very good point. I mean, they're 12 gauge shotguns for god's sake; quite possibly the simplest principle of all firearms. Put shell in chamber. Pull trigger. Gun goes boom. Shot goes somewhere in front of you. These two guns, unless you're going to need that higher capacity, its really just a matter of how much you're willing to pay complicate a simple prospect. I mean I do like both guns and they'd be a blast to own, but for my money, I'd probably just grab myself an 870 as well.
@nellsonstout70018 жыл бұрын
If agree with that verdict, but if I didn't have a choice between the two, if choose the DP-12
@nellsonstout70018 жыл бұрын
I'd choose
@lucernhammer7 жыл бұрын
anyone who advocates for the remington 870 hasn't shot a new one terrible ejection I'd go mossberg
@toddk90446 жыл бұрын
lucernhammer Not all newer 870 models have problems. However I would say for the $, no one should have any issues, but you can thank The Freedom Group that bought out Remington for that. For sure, you can't go wrong with a mossberg.
@SVTsupercharged6 жыл бұрын
More shells can be the difference between life and death. I'll take more over less any day.
@mengh787 жыл бұрын
I had some light primer strike on my DP-12 right out of the box shooting today... That was one of the problems. The other problem is that one round would fire but the other one won't let me pull the trigger. I was shooting the Fiocchi ammo... After I went home, disassemble the shotgun, clean it, oil it ,and switch to Estate Super Sport, the problem went away. It's the weirdest thing ever!!!!
@rst21454 жыл бұрын
When I 1st got my dp12 I had to send it back to the factory for repair because it was shooting both rounds at the same time .... so there is a way. Now it's functioning as advertised
@moe47724 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if it had that option to switch though... Can you imagine shooting two 3" slugs at the same time? Kinda like a midget on redbull trying to punch you in the side lol
@nayr8965 Жыл бұрын
I own and run a ksg. With practice, you can get the hang of reaching back with the thumb on your fire hand. It is a bit uncomfortable, but it's a game changer.
@Dylan-gs9sm8 жыл бұрын
Getting the DP 12 Thursday thank you so much for helping to resolve the feeding issuing when pointing downward
@mwurslin71523 жыл бұрын
Finally!! an informative review that offers both honest pros and cons. Unlike a lot of the "I don't like it so you shouldn't like it either" reviews... I really appreciate you just giving the facts and leaving the choice up to the viewer. I feel like the DP-12 is definitely a more robust gun but the KSG is more compact and I like that you can select between two different types of rounds if you want. Thanks for the review.
@donkeyhong74238 жыл бұрын
Having used the KSG and owning a DP12 I prefer the DP12 to the KSG. The KSG after breaking it down 10-15 times, cleaning, oiling, and making sure it was reassembled at a relatives house, he and I spent more time doing that than shooting it. He eventually sold it just to get rid of it . The DP12 I have owned for a year now and i have never broken it down or cleaned it after having shot 6-7 hundred rounds through it. I have experienced however as in this video the light primer strikes of the DP12. At most i would say its been 5-10 shells that failed to fire. Now I havnt broken it down to see whats going on in there whether it is a factory issue or a ammo issue even though i highly doubt its the ammo do to the light dimple on the back of the shell. Price difference is significant to i paid 1400 before taxes on mine but to me it was worth it. All in all though i love the DP12 it has a velvety smooth action but neither make good skeet guns lol.
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your personal experience, sorry to hear youve had such issues. That sucks;-/
@donkeyhong74238 жыл бұрын
+GY6vids you should do a dp12 vid with aguila mini shells lol. thanks for the awesome vids
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be cool! The DP-12 can dump shells so fast it would be a crazy time for sure!
@DGCON44444444Ай бұрын
Bought my Ksg12 second batch years ago . Still have it love it no problems at all . Still watch this video to date
@bad_company5.038 жыл бұрын
Great review. Never fired the DP12, I own a KSG. Love it. I like being able to put buck in one mag and slug in the other. The weight is also a big factor between the two. Ensuring that I fully pumped it each time was the hardest thing to train. No short stroking. It will not feed if you do. When you are looking at 1400+ or 800+ and need a red dot or any other additions, the KSG is the best way to go. Plus the extra 600 gets you a lot of buck and slugs ;)
@jbmcfarland10 ай бұрын
Just (end of Feb 24) picked up the DP-12 From Palmetto State Armory for just around $999!!! Haven't even gotten out to the field to shoot it yet, but excited to. Great video! New subscriber!
@GY6vids10 ай бұрын
It’s a fun shotgun. And I’ve heard they fixed some of the issues I found
@MegaLucario954 жыл бұрын
This video made me make up my mind between the two, went with the KSG. Literally no issues at all since i bought it, and it’s an absolute blast to fire all 15 rounds in rapid succession.
@baseball-dude42522 жыл бұрын
Do you still like it? I'm thinking about buying a ksg 12
@JohnGardiner-e9q Жыл бұрын
A place called Hitec has a lot of great upgrades for the KSG. They have a longer tube selector so no need to change your grip to switch tubes
@ChristianGames3168 жыл бұрын
you don't have to flip the KSG to switch tubes... you can change it with your wrist. which includes on accident!
@TheFXCELESSOne8 жыл бұрын
Is your name for real
@ChristianGames3168 жыл бұрын
+Slash Poison lol I'm a male nurse. murse ... Mursenary... lol
@nickshumar45538 жыл бұрын
+TheMursenary that is possibly the most creative name I've seen, love it
@GeorgePerakis8 жыл бұрын
Have you ever watched Scrubs?
@ChristianGames3168 жыл бұрын
haha thanks guys. and nah, never watched any medical based show except House.
@arrowgantonegreen8394 жыл бұрын
A Google search brought me here four years after the video was made. With a pandemic going on, rioting, and violence going sky high; anticipate this video getting a lot of new views between now and November. A KSG sold on an online auction today for over $1600. Kel-Tec is out of stock and distributors have NO idea if / when they will be manufacturing / shipping more KSG's. (You can get a tricked out DP-12 for $1700+; they have plenty in stock.) I am going with the KSG. This was a GREAT video. Awesome video angles and slow mo, great graphics, editing well done. You took two things I needed a direct comparison of and gave me a fair evaluation while sitting on my ass. I thank you and my lazy ass thanks you. (As odd as this will sound, I do not own a single short sleeved shirt or wife beater. The wrist burn shouldn't be an issue for me. Hopefully I don't set a shirt on fire.)
@danielcs108 жыл бұрын
Hey man, you have some of the greatest reviews I've seen on KZbin, great job! It's fun and it's complete on information. Ps: I'm Brazilian and unfortunately we aren't allowed to have guns, but fortunately I've been learning a lot about them with you guys, thanks a lot!
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them! Much more to come...thank you for the support.
@silentlyobserve4 жыл бұрын
Are you ambidextrous? Just curious because you shot the guns from both shoulders.
@mysticaldragon27408 жыл бұрын
Watched both your first review of the DP-12 and now this one (came across this one accidentally) . Both well done and I love the honest opinions given based on your observations. As others have said it is refreshing and well done.
@willegard28 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see GY6vids? I like GY6vids video. On another note, great video! Thank you! Love from Sweden!
@donniedarko13454 жыл бұрын
Bought my KSG today. Great comparison with the DP...glad I went with the KSG even more now! Nice review.
@Oak_And_Iron8 жыл бұрын
Hell of a review. Knows his stuff and has GOOD quality.
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@aaaaa19572 жыл бұрын
Addressing the cons on the KSG, the first one is there a spent casing deflector available now and for the selector switch there a longer replacement available so you can now toggle between tubes with your wrist so you no longer need to go off target to switch between tubes.
@makerofmanythings84474 жыл бұрын
Man that KSG looks so good in that color. Love mine it's black and I can hit a 12" gong at 150 yards with slugs, I Have a Holosun 506C on it.
@GY6vids4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@sunshine6814 жыл бұрын
@@GY6vids Very nice!!! The length of the hallway in my house is about 50', so I don't really care about rounds on target at 450'... (that's why I have a .308) Due to the mis-fires in this video, though, I would not choose the DP-12, regardless of Hickok45's review ;)
@1skottymac4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thorough comparison. I've watched a few videos on these guns. This video was the one to help me decide to purchase the KSG. (I already have a few Mossbergs!) The quality of your presentation is better than the others I viewed.
@billblake40298 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic review Andrew. I really appreciate your time,efforts and sincerity. Thank you and please keep up the great work.
@tyjacc52 жыл бұрын
Bruh! Great illustration of both shotguns. I just bought the DP-12, haven't tested it out yet but can't wait.
@gdancoleman5 жыл бұрын
Best bullpup review I've seen. Great info and thorough too. Thanks a bunch! Now I know the KSG is right for me.
@whitesmotoadv10 ай бұрын
There is a shell deflector available now to prevent the shells hitting your wrist and there is a selector extension which makes it very easy and fast to switch tubs.
@makerofmanythings84474 жыл бұрын
I have an extended tube selector that I can switch tubes with a flick of my wrist on my KSG..
@TheBinarySon7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for following up with the issue with the DP-12!
@D3thM3tal8 жыл бұрын
Watching the slow-mo these guns are flexing quite a bit - I wonder if that is contributing to the issues that crop up when you are rapid firing. Either way - great review. I'm leaning towards the KSG due to the centered barrel and consistent target acquisition.
@TheFXCELESSOne8 жыл бұрын
Except the fact of the shells flying out and hitting your wrist.
@maniacmatt17828 жыл бұрын
+Slash Poison deflector available or don't hold your elbow in so much so your wrist isn't tucked directly under. I don't have a deflector and have no issues with it hitting my wrist.
@Wedelj8 жыл бұрын
Also, you can't put the DP-12 on safe after shooting one barrel. You have to either shoot both barrels or dump a live round out to put on safe.
@Omen_Seven8 жыл бұрын
I think its a combination of the parts just expanding with heat (he did mention that it only happened after 150 rounds or so), and the fact that shotguns like this are notorious for misbehaving if you repeatedly fire them as quickly as he was; especially something like the UTAS UTS-15, but that thing has so many other problems, its hard to pick just one. I did notice though that the DP-12 didn't seem to flex nearly as much as the KSG.
@TheFXCELESSOne8 жыл бұрын
maniacmatt1782 true true but the fact is, that it is a base shotgun review honestly would not buy either to many cons for the price
@Dante952408 жыл бұрын
I watched a video where the guy stuffed 24 Aguila mini shot shells in the KSG and it worked perfectly. Interesting, great educational video you did!
@mk45gunnr258 жыл бұрын
I must be perpetually 13 years old (I'm actually 44). Every time he said "girth" I heard Beavis and Butthead laughing!
@ne54093 жыл бұрын
😜😂
@rst9229 Жыл бұрын
When I 1st got my DP12 it always shot both barrels at once. Talk about packing a punch! I sent it back to the company & when I got it back it performed how it should. I should've left it how it was lol
@Texan19398 жыл бұрын
double tap 12 gauge: first the knees,second the torso. . . done!
@RJ-su8wk4 жыл бұрын
Great review...thank you! I’ll still use my Benelli M4 though.
@SpoolinVR5 жыл бұрын
The slow motion at 13:24 was bad ass. I want a video of myself like that 💪
@GY6vids5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chadbabcock41948 жыл бұрын
To help with the "sticky" or the increased resistance caused from the heat and expanding parts don't use gun lube. Strip down, wipe all that off and apply a thin coat of grease. I used Lucas red and tacky #2 and really helped with my KSG.
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Grease/oil combo is all I use on Shotguns now days, and its what I used for this video as well...the sticking isn't coming from the moving parts, its the stuck spent shells and ejectors.
@chadbabcock41948 жыл бұрын
GY6vids well i have no experienced with the DP-12 only with my KSG. the grease i use did help, but you'd be correct to say that i still have those issues. yet it only seems to be prevalent during fast fire situations when the heat become abundant. I've experienced this with many new shotguns that aren't broken in yet. so perhaps it's just part of the break in process? the smoothing of the chamber to help the expanded metal caps?
@supersoberano20955 жыл бұрын
Slow down on those times you’re trying to speed up. You’re short stroking it and creating the yam. On the one barrel one. Slower means faster when short stroking occurs.
@supersoberano20955 жыл бұрын
Redo that testing going slower and you will see I’m correct.
@user-qo7qc5em5t4 жыл бұрын
I hate yams
@atomicbill11 ай бұрын
I have a ksg12 . I highly recommend installing a Howitzer70 muzzle brake as it reduces recoil by 70%! No bruises after 50 slugs. Barely noticeable soreness.
@MacSOGAdventureInternational8 жыл бұрын
Great Vid, I got the KSG because of this vid. Thanks for posting!
@overriidee3 жыл бұрын
Hey I watched this video like yesterday or 2 days ago I just wanted to say you said the details very good And that you added time stamps in the description is just amazing Great video man, keep up!
@l4hv1n3k8 жыл бұрын
if money isnt a problem, then buy AA-12
@jussayinmipeece10694 жыл бұрын
you cant. its sold only to the military
@evschulze27814 жыл бұрын
@@jussayinmipeece1069 Not quite true. Semi-Auto AA-12's use to be on the market till about September of 2019, but the ATF recently declared them as destructive devices as they "had potential to be converted to full auto" and have since prevented the selling of AA-12 on the civilian market
@AnonYmous-hu7jo4 жыл бұрын
jussayin mipeece Pfft, do basic training. So... you CAN.
@Superman-xr1oh4 жыл бұрын
@@evschulze2781 That's a dumb reason. By that logic, an ar 15 could also be converted to full auto, or an ak 47. That can't be the reason.
@Boddah.3 жыл бұрын
@@Superman-xr1oh Funny you should say that, they're going after the AR.
@jadams2013 Жыл бұрын
Good vid, thanks! After shooting a box thru my KSG I found that I had a tender spot on my wrist... lasted a couple of days. Nothing severe. A few days later I repeated but wore a wrisr band. That works! If i were going to shoot it all the time I might get a deflector but no more than I do it doesn't seem necessary. Not like it is major pain.
@danieldickson85915 жыл бұрын
The faster you try to pump a bullpup, the more likely to accidentally short-shuck it, causing jams.
@Chayonray8 жыл бұрын
Outstanding comparison between the pros and cons of these two bullpup shotguns. My takeaway, is that neither are optimal for 3 in shells (which I question anyway for home defense) and both need to be cleaned well before 150 rounds.
@brettlacher41597 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review; very impressed with the thoroughness and honesty. I'm still debating on which to get personally, but this review has shed a lot of light on the pros and cons. I am especially interested in those failure to fires in the DP12, which I primarily wanted more due to it's supposed increased reliability. Thanks for the great video.
@connorlafferty7287 жыл бұрын
Hey man I know you put a lot of time and energy into this video and I really appreciate it. Really helped me with making the decision between the two... I'm going with the KSG! Anyways thanks again keep up the really good videos thank you!!
@krisspofford8 жыл бұрын
nice video.. Ur good at what you do.... keep it up!
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Thank you....appreciate the support.
@danielahammel648 Жыл бұрын
I was going to get a dp-12 but changed my mind and got a ati bulldog bullpup and love it way more with no problems
@1crimm8 жыл бұрын
great stuff as always
@GY6vids8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Dirty_Dan_Tactical8 жыл бұрын
+GY6vids I love your videos and may I ask "have you ever played airsoft or paintball"?
@keith06773 жыл бұрын
Over 500 rounds in my ksg. So far I have to say its one of the 3 best guns keltek makes. kag, and sub 2000 and cmr30. Have had no issues with any of them.
@joesumcock8868 жыл бұрын
Between the two, KSG. But, I'll stick with my 870, she's never done me wrong. _ The sticky rounds might be the Winchester you're using.. I've had to butt-stroke more than a few of them out. __ Awesome video! *~Spoiler~* After 30min of watching, the best bullpup IS? The 870! LOL
@grant66208 жыл бұрын
The 870 is about a 4th of the cost of both
@unknownunknown-vd4ev8 жыл бұрын
is your 870 tactical
@grant66208 жыл бұрын
+unknown33 unknown33 mine is
@joesumcock8868 жыл бұрын
Super Tactical.. It's got a black stock and everything.. (Snark) _ 870 Mag express, w/ 18" cly, Short Lop Hogue stock&forend, streamline sidesaddle, and +2 extension. My cheapest, and most adored firearm.
@gunner4q8 жыл бұрын
sticky problems usually are related to 'shell quality'.. I once shot some cheap shells that left a coating in the barrel that after about 20 rounds I had use a rod to bang them out, like a muzzle loader!... switched to Remington and never had a problem!
@nephitidwell1924 жыл бұрын
I just picked a KSG in a trade. I was looking around on the WEB to educate myself on this gun. Thank you for this video. Well done.
@commandogregor69818 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, and you also did a great job on the editing and setup. Keep it up!
@RightWingNutter8 жыл бұрын
Just a note on the KSG wrist problem. I learned to shoot with my left elbow tucked under the forestock, and my right elbow out to the side, more or less level with the butt. I kept that habit when shooting pistol grip long guns. So when I rack my KSG the shell drops well clear of my wrist. It's hard to change long practiced shooting styles I know, but mine works on that gun.
@SomeDiscussionRecommended8 жыл бұрын
Damn, he powdered that pidgeon. Slow-mo really added to this.
@MasterJ2023 жыл бұрын
The DP-12 needs an indicator window on the top or side so you can easily look at it and tell which barrel hasn't been shot out of yet which I'm not too sure how you would do that because the shells stay in there but it's a thought
@MANNY1001238 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always, Andrew!
@CPalanysamy4 жыл бұрын
I normally find gun youtubers annoying because won't stop jiggling or cursing. I appreciate this guy's seriousness
@benjibanks78948 жыл бұрын
All that big $$$ for the dp and what do ya get? miss fire. Looks like I'm going with the ksg.