Kumina in Jamaica

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Rants In Patwa

Rants In Patwa

7 жыл бұрын

Kumina is both a dance and an African derived religion in Jamaica that is primarily based on african immigrants from the Congo-Angola region in west-central Africa. The region provided Jamaica with the 3rd largest African population in the country. This video gives some insight into Kumina. Please enjoy. I am not sure where the original source of this clip is from. If anyone knows this documentary or new reports please forward the information. I would like to get my hands on a copy. Thanks!!
No copyright infringement intended. Unaware of original source.
This is strictly for educational purposes

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@lorriann6628
@lorriann6628 5 жыл бұрын
My mom walked by as I'm watching this and starts crying, apparently this is where she grew up. She always talks about kumina. She recognized multiple people in the video. The Man playing the drum in blue used to baby sit my older brothers!! His name is Mass Sam(another way of saying Mr Sam). OMG small world. She said thank you whomever posted this.
@seanreid2986
@seanreid2986 5 жыл бұрын
Ask your mom what is the name of the lady singing
@spiritualchild321
@spiritualchild321 4 жыл бұрын
Malembe kentu (hello) that's Queenie singing with friends. Me and this group all represent the st Thomas association of maroons kumina and spirituality SAMKS.
@mightyrem
@mightyrem 4 жыл бұрын
songoma rituals Malembe kentu, is this the bikongo language?
@spiritualchild321
@spiritualchild321 4 жыл бұрын
Yes romel this is the Congo language. We talk and sing in this language usually at kumina events and things and rituals.
@mightyrem
@mightyrem 4 жыл бұрын
songoma rituals does SAMKS or yourself have an email address I could I could contact you/them on if possible
@bcom11
@bcom11 7 жыл бұрын
this make me so happy to see. jamaicans preserving our african roots. we need more learning about this.
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 6 жыл бұрын
bcom11 apparently there is a bailo and then a country version. I am still learning . So far I know that Desmond Puesey and Jackie Guy teach it in UK
@PLEASANTGIFFT
@PLEASANTGIFFT 6 жыл бұрын
Yes...
@gatheringleaves
@gatheringleaves 4 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants more info about Kumina and post emancipation immigration from Africa into Jamaica I highly recommend Alas, Alas, Kongo by Monica Schuler published in 1980
@mavoungoukelanou8045
@mavoungoukelanou8045 4 жыл бұрын
Kumina means arrived. Ma Ndombé (mama wa ndombi) means black mother which is a female divinity in the Kongo kingdom. Yetu na Yetu means between us That's what I understand in this song. I'm happy to know that I got my bakongo people in Jamaica. I love Jamaicans ❤️
@NoJa.
@NoJa. 3 жыл бұрын
Same I’m congolese and I can pick out similarities in our cultures
@carsade
@carsade 2 жыл бұрын
sorry what language is this, slaves came from Congo? my Congolese friend dont know dis
@mavoungoukelanou8045
@mavoungoukelanou8045 2 жыл бұрын
@@carsade they are using some kikongo words. Congo is big and we have so many languages. Maybe your Congolese friend is not from the Kongo tribe or he simply don't speak the language.
@carsade
@carsade 2 жыл бұрын
@@mavoungoukelanou8045 apologies i meant she is not aware of slaves coming fron Congo just west africa or maybe its just, not on about the language
@mavoungoukelanou8045
@mavoungoukelanou8045 2 жыл бұрын
@@carsade ooh ok I get you. They mostly took slaves in west and Central Africa.
@Stonygut1865
@Stonygut1865 5 жыл бұрын
That's my late Aunt Zilla (Gully Queen) and her daughter my cousin Beryl (both women being interviewed) there! I miss those kumina days in Jamaica!
@renaebruce-miller
@renaebruce-miller 4 жыл бұрын
FitzRoy send me an email at renaebm@gmail.com let's connect
@kendellflemimg3453
@kendellflemimg3453 2 жыл бұрын
Big up gully queen
@seanreid2986
@seanreid2986 2 жыл бұрын
What were their full names, your aunt and cousin. And are they still alive today?
@Stonygut1865
@Stonygut1865 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanreid2986 Actually, the older woman is my grand aunt; my mother's aunt. I knew her as Zilla Beckford. We affectionately called her Aunt Zill or Aunt Zilla. Her daughter Beryl's last name I don't remember at this point but I will ask her daughter who now resides in Florida. Both Aunt Zilla and her daughter Beryl have long been deceased.
@howishabuchanan9857
@howishabuchanan9857 3 ай бұрын
Beyral MacFarlane (orange head scarf) and Zola Beckford (red scarf) and they are mother and daughter. My grand aunt and great grandmother. ❤
@niveauzanda5424
@niveauzanda5424 4 жыл бұрын
Wow she said yétu na yétu 😯😯 that's my kongo language tho.
@seanreid2986
@seanreid2986 5 жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful , but I think the government should do more in educating and preserving our culture .
@jamaicandrilla4005
@jamaicandrilla4005 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad that Christianity is/was forced on us but we still preserve our cultural. And another thing I notice when I was small and when I used to travel to my grand parents house in St Mary I used to experience this on the regular and I was so comfortable with it as to going to Sunday school and that always made me wonder....
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 4 жыл бұрын
Three Jamaican folk dances I remember learning about. are Brukkings, Ettu, and Kumina!
@jamaicandrilla4005
@jamaicandrilla4005 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Dinki mini
@marilynlawson8216
@marilynlawson8216 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamaicandrilla4005, thank you so much for the reminder.
@theunstoppableone3515
@theunstoppableone3515 10 ай бұрын
The Lady that is chanting the song is my Aunt.
@BabaRoots-ti9ie
@BabaRoots-ti9ie 3 ай бұрын
I need her link to share our culture Ghana 🇬🇭 Jamaica 🇯🇲 Africa ❤. Thanks
@princessmoon2656
@princessmoon2656 5 жыл бұрын
So I’m on a search to find out my ancestry & heritage. My grandparents are from Saint Thomas, JA & they look exactly like these people & the Congolese which the Kumina came from. I’m so happy I came across this.
@claudettestewart3711
@claudettestewart3711 5 жыл бұрын
Seeing this reminds me of my Great Aunt Claire, Mother Clarke, & my Mother. All practiced this form of African Spirituality.
@matthewreid6240
@matthewreid6240 24 күн бұрын
My dad bishop reid use to have an African session at his revival church in lime hall st. Ann also at Holt close in Kingston,these kumina dancing and chanting was a part of the worship.
@omoz189
@omoz189 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful 👏 I had to get up to dance in mark of respect for my Ancestors 🙏 My background I am from the Urhobo people in southern Nigeria in Delta State Congo an Cameroon are neighbours to Nigeria 🇳🇬
@Bestlifestyle32
@Bestlifestyle32 6 ай бұрын
My mom is in this video Rip mom. This is Middleton Charles town, miss berel singing I miss these people even miss ansil
@rosemariewatkiss7414
@rosemariewatkiss7414 5 жыл бұрын
I love kumina ❤❤🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@Bestlifestyle32
@Bestlifestyle32 6 ай бұрын
Seeing this just bring back a lot of memories, to see my mom, and uncle when they were young. Also the older people that grew me miss beryl also miss ansyl trust me brings tears rest in peace my mom “minna”
@spiritualking3271
@spiritualking3271 4 ай бұрын
My condolences to you . Any of the player and dancers are any still alive?
@rogerengland2821
@rogerengland2821 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful thing to keep the spirit of your ancestors relevant in these stagnant times. Amazing video documentary.
@spiritualchild321
@spiritualchild321 4 жыл бұрын
Malembe kentu Mumbaka (hello friends this is our kumina) songs: 'madombe', 'white sandals'. The st Thomas association of maroons kumina and spirituality SAMKS
@mamisa7626
@mamisa7626 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what MANDOMBE means? is Black in KIKONGO
@mamisa7626
@mamisa7626 2 жыл бұрын
Malembe means slow, slowly
@IyamSoRaya
@IyamSoRaya 4 жыл бұрын
dee Jay- 01 we literally come from EVERY country that is between the senegambian region on down to angola.... and on the eastern region we have ancestry in southern Tanzania on down to Mozambique. This also includes Madagascar. Jamaicans literally are pan African by blood. It really annoys me when only the ashanti/akan and igbo are given credit. It really does irk me lol. We are also from Benin too as you mentioned... we are from all over.
@jamaicandrilla4005
@jamaicandrilla4005 3 жыл бұрын
Your so right and I agree with you.That's why they couldn't build a language but a dialect because of the different mixture of people that was either capture/stole/sold and brought to Jamaica.
@lucianoescobar9979
@lucianoescobar9979 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful !! Kumina is so similar to our bèlè in Martinique
@lundyniam4594
@lundyniam4594 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Appreciate this
@zakialionofjudah6614
@zakialionofjudah6614 7 жыл бұрын
she sing like akan ashanti
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 6 жыл бұрын
Jely.k Beauty secret funny the song at the ends sounds like a mento. It would've have been curious to hear miss lou speak on this although I imagine carolyn cooper knows quite a bit
@mansuekimilandu6661
@mansuekimilandu6661 6 жыл бұрын
Yes these are bakongo but even Alan people originally come from kingdom of kongo dia ntotela before they lived in Ghana . They are mixer two people's the pigyme and bakongo
@mavoungoukelanou8045
@mavoungoukelanou8045 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, that's a Bakongo rhythm. And I can understand some of the things she said, for example the yétu na yétu in the song.
@IyamSoRaya
@IyamSoRaya 4 жыл бұрын
We have Akan ancestry yes but not just.... we are as Congolese as we are Ghanaian. Let's not give only one credit. Congo deserves such since it singlehandedly influenced the entire western hemisphere. Literally every black population in the western hemisphere has Congolese roots among others.
@simoneb3837
@simoneb3837 6 жыл бұрын
Bless up 🇯🇲🇯🇲
@theunstoppableone3515
@theunstoppableone3515 10 ай бұрын
My grandmother is also in this video.
@JennirrenUnedited1
@JennirrenUnedited1 7 жыл бұрын
i went to a Kumina session in Jamaica last year and it was so interesting. i would like to learn more.
@rantsinpatwa
@rantsinpatwa 7 жыл бұрын
Jenni rren Unedited I want to go .. hopefully they will allow me to document it.
@JennirrenUnedited1
@JennirrenUnedited1 7 жыл бұрын
They will. I was able to record and there was no problem. I will send you the link if you wish..
@rantsinpatwa
@rantsinpatwa 7 жыл бұрын
Jenni rren Unedited please send the link. I told my professor who taught Africa Religion in the Americas that I would make a documentary about Kumina. I haven't made it back to ja for any extended time yet but I still plan on doing it.
@JennirrenUnedited1
@JennirrenUnedited1 7 жыл бұрын
Can i have your email address so I can send footage
@rantsinpatwa
@rantsinpatwa 7 жыл бұрын
Jenni rren Unedited my email is: rjmoofilms@gmail.com thanks in advance.
@j-itisnacks
@j-itisnacks 3 жыл бұрын
If you stood still while watching this, you're out of tune.
@LordHaveMurcielago
@LordHaveMurcielago 2 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie… I’ve watched a few of these west African culture videos and once I hear the drumming and singing i immediately felt my knees and feet desire to start moving. Lol
@soniadrummond2169
@soniadrummond2169 4 ай бұрын
Wow wow great! ❤
@tostoamico7759
@tostoamico7759 6 жыл бұрын
so they came from the anterior of congo?they are singing about mayi ndombe(the dark / black water). i think somebody from kongo can understand what they are saying i think that they are bakongo..
@mackgoliath5286
@mackgoliath5286 6 жыл бұрын
i know kumina is in kongo arrived
@mansuekimilandu6661
@mansuekimilandu6661 6 жыл бұрын
Yes these are bakongo but even Alan people originally come from kingdom of kongo dia ntotela before they lived in Ghana . They are mixer two people's the pigyme and bakongo.
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 6 жыл бұрын
Mansueki Milandu any idea what song they are singing
@mavoungoukelanou8045
@mavoungoukelanou8045 3 жыл бұрын
@@omalone1169 due to the time they have spent in Jamaica, I guess there is a modification and evolution of the language but what I've been able to understand is Kumina which means arrived, ma ndombé (mama wa ndombi) which means black mother (a female divinity in the Kongo kingdom) and yetu na yetu which means between us/among us. I will show the video to my mother who can speak a very good Kongo language and I'm sure she will tell me more about what she understands.
@kwakumt623
@kwakumt623 5 жыл бұрын
Very deep
@shenelleduncan3890
@shenelleduncan3890 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful welcome home 🐍
@theunstoppableone3515
@theunstoppableone3515 2 жыл бұрын
Prime Minister Edward Seaga could have given more detail on this video. My grandmother use to dance Khumina for Mr. Seaga it's a pity they are all decease. I'm sorry I did not get a lot of information on it but I know persons who still live in St. Thomas where my Aunt and Grandmother is from my dad still lives there.
@spiritualking3271
@spiritualking3271 4 ай бұрын
See if you can gather information and make a short videos are write a book. Mr Seaga was going to do a documentary on revivalist church and kumina but unfortunately he pass.
@Barrerahaddadariel
@Barrerahaddadariel 2 жыл бұрын
What does mean the word mapale? I heard in the chorus of kumina song
@dominicd2063
@dominicd2063 4 ай бұрын
I'm bouncing in my seat. This is some riddim!
@d15355
@d15355 Жыл бұрын
These are originaly makonde people of central africa to east africa they are from congo drc and little bit of angola these are mokonde drums or ngoma in kiswahili
@rosemariewatkiss8365
@rosemariewatkiss8365 5 жыл бұрын
🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@chinoisuzu8104
@chinoisuzu8104 3 жыл бұрын
vive kongo
@LordHaveMurcielago
@LordHaveMurcielago 5 жыл бұрын
The killing of the goat was done for my grandfather's funeral. Is this practice specific to Kumina or do the ashanti and yoruba do it too?
@spiritualchild321
@spiritualchild321 4 жыл бұрын
The killing of the goat is done by any group or tribe. It's a accepted sacrifice to the ancestors
@steveghany5060
@steveghany5060 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is done in the yoruba tradition as well here in trinidad we offer a goat for many diffrent aspects as well as for our ancestors
@thehoneyeffect
@thehoneyeffect 2 жыл бұрын
They let me make friends with the goat 🐐 Rodney and then I saw them stringing up the goat… I wondered what they were doing??? (being a 10yr old Jamaican British kid in Jamaica) they killed Rodney 😭 Me and my little cousins cried But when we stop cry, they finish cook Rodney We felt guilty But bwoy him did taste sweet yuh see! All the guilt melted away, so fresh 😋🤤 bless you Rodney lol
@tvs9978
@tvs9978 2 жыл бұрын
@@thehoneyeffect I have the same story as a child. 🤣🤣🤣What disloyal friends we were
@RayFamilyreality
@RayFamilyreality 6 ай бұрын
I have the same story as an American child born into a Jamaican family, only I couldn’t eat the goat or the chicken. I actually went vegetarian for damn near 4 months and my mom was so annoyed with trying to feed me other things until I forgot about how meat actually makes it to my plate. Memories lol!
@biancabonner1383
@biancabonner1383 3 жыл бұрын
The woman dem inna myal to the end
@rosemariewatkiss7414
@rosemariewatkiss7414 3 жыл бұрын
🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🔥🇯🇲♥️♥️
@domyandersongarcia3248
@domyandersongarcia3248 3 жыл бұрын
Kukumina royaume KONGO. Man n'ngolee ( n'ngolo) Angola. N'nzambi yaame.
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 6 жыл бұрын
Why does he says 19th century as I thought the Zaire I fluency was from 1700s. Also I'm assuming Ghana is first as I randomly read somewhere it was 47% , whilst the next place was 17%
@rantsinpatwa
@rantsinpatwa 6 жыл бұрын
omalone11 the last batch of Africans brought to Jamaica in significant numbers came from the congo. They were concentrated in specific parts of Jamaica. Ghana/gold coast largest, nigeria second largest and congo/angola third largest number of africans that populate Jamaica.
@omalone1169
@omalone1169 6 жыл бұрын
Rant Jamaica jamaica-gleaner.com/article/art-leisure/20160124/how-anthology-african-jamaican-culture-was-created ps miss me with the Nigeria part 🤣
@thinkforyourself1116
@thinkforyourself1116 5 жыл бұрын
@@omalone1169 RJ, is correct in his general assessment, although I will add That a lot of Jamaicans have roots from the old Dahamoney Kingdom too. That piece that you refer to in the Gleander doesn't cover everything. Many of the words we used are Igbo. Look up the Igbo uprising in St ELizabeth and then look up another set of Africans from Nigeria, the Yorubas . Check out Abeokuta in Westmoreland.
@LordHaveMurcielago
@LordHaveMurcielago 5 жыл бұрын
@@rantsinpatwa Would you happen to have any videos about the Tambu dance which is popular in Wakefield Trelawny. Apparently it stems from the people from Congo.
@rogerengland2821
@rogerengland2821 4 жыл бұрын
@@thinkforyourself1116 which is right there was a greater concentration of Igbo (Ebo), Yaruba and perhaps Coramante people found on the western end of Jamaica due to how the slave traders did business. This is also evident in some language and other slight cultural differences found between the eastern and western parts of Jamaica.
@carsade
@carsade 2 жыл бұрын
what di wiman singing? a patois cause mi nuh undastan a raas she a seh but unteresting
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