Indiana Jones Is a Weak License Now - Delayed Input with Kyle Bosman

This summer's biggest box office botch mathematically lessens the allure of an unrelated, years-out video game adaptation.
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[@MadMaxBLD]

I love how Kyle always sings „this is“ whenever it comes up in a sentence.

[@PEHfinale]

It's my favorite. I always wonder if Nine Days knows there's a guy on KZbin who references their hit single on every episode 😅

[@ellymedeiros]

It's a deep cut inside joke that doesn't need to be explained 😂

[@DarrienDane]

10 seconds in and the bosman himself is already barking and howling. thank you for blessing us, kyle

[@ric3poversace477]

I thought it was the emperor

[@teyanzi]

I thought for sure you were going to talk about the Wolverine insomniac game.

[@willo6651]

Haha I was looking for this comment, though the same

[@twodotso]

I swear with the opener I thought Kyle had a sponsor 😅 which would've been well deserved, don't get me wrong

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I don’t think Nintendo would touch Bosman with a ten foot pole

[@DOSkywalkR]

​@@thedapperdolphin1590I mean they put elephant Mario in the new Mario game, maybe they embraced the "Nintendo elephant" analogy from Final Bosman back in the day 😜😜 JK.

[@darthmarth87]

Indiana Jones was a great trilogy that ended with him riding into the sunset. Then they dragged him out of retirement for a movie that was not very good. Then they dragged him out of retirement again for a movie that's arguably worse. It doesn't take a buisness major to understand that wasn't a great plan lol. That said I do think there is potential in the video game space, especially since it's been a hot minute since the last Uncharted and Tomb Raider (But actually please just remake Fate of Atlantis like you did with the Monkey Island Games)

[@wmoule]

They are desperate and creatively bankrupt. They have no choice but to drag into the mud old licenses.

[@charoleawood]

@@wmoule I want to push back on this a little. Take the Mario film for instance, the reason that movie sold tickets was because it successfully played on Mario adoration --- which does not mean it was creatively rich, rather it means that it was a successful cash grab. If the Mario movie were released in a world that cared as little for the Mario franchise as it does for the Indiana Jones franchise then it probably wouldn't fare better than Dial of Destiny.

[@2sallads]

@@charoleawood Perfectly put

[@Wumpa_Juice]

Excellent episode! I've never disagreed with you more in one 15min period, and I love it

[@jesser4221]

I'm a software engineer and the IOI website is one of the fanciest website I have seen in a long time. Crazy animations and transitions.

[@SamSergeant]

and I own every kind of classic car

[@jesser4221]

@@SamSergeant that must be a lot of money, isn't it?

[@dopey8967]

​@@SamSergeantTriples are safe

[@Aragorn7884]

ACTUALLY...River Phoenix ALSO was Indy 🤓

[@Killericon]

And was phenomenal!

[@LaztstaNd]

I think that as a movie franchise it ran It's course, but as a game? You can squeeze at least a AAA trilogy out of It and some spin offs. Uncharted and Tomb Raider happen in modern times, Uncharted has the hand to hand combat, stealth elements and Tomb Raider's last entries have "survival" mechanics, I think a Indi game can definetly fill a gap. Perhaps a more "grounded" and cinematic Doom Eternal with 3rd person elements, I'm excited for it personally.

[@JazGalaxy]

The problem with Indians Jones, and a lot of franchises, is that the character who exists in individual people’s heads is often NOT the real character. Thusly it’s hard to find people to write and portray him. Like Han Solo, similarly. One of the major criticisms Kazdan had when criticizing the Lord and Miller version of the film was “Han is not funny!”. In some peoples heads, they remember all the comedic lines he adds to the films and go “ of course he is!” But they’d don’t get/understand that Han’s PERSONALITY created ironic situations which is where the humor came from. Han himself would never get the joke.

[@Bobio]

Bonus bit was highly relatable. I'm also an 80s baby but as a kid my first exposure to Indy Jones was that scene in the Last Crusade where the dude rapidly ages to a skeleton. Suffice to say, it's not exactly been a staple of my cultural upbringing into adulthood.

[@quagthias]

Kyle Bosman's sleep audio of him sounding like a Pokemon should be him only muttering his own name.

[@zakwojnar4714]

I’m sad that Kyle isn’t an Indiana Jones guy.

[@zacharyqueyrouze6604]

The first three Indiana Jones movies are worth watching Kyle

[@randomthorn9286]

Indiana Jones is a super nostalgic franchise for me, it was like what the Star Wars trilogy was like for everyone else. I always believed there was more potential in Indiana Jones, like I know you mention that the character is carried by one person but I feel they really could have gone the James Bond route.

[@vaguerant]

I'm super late on this, but I think the problem is that they haven't really done any "maintenance" on this license. With Star Wars, even in the downtimes they would do a run of toys, then a weird N64 game, and more books and comic books and everything else than Earth has eyeballs, then several animated shows, etc. Every generation has more Star Wars stuff to attach itself to. But Indiana Jones has nothing keeping it current. If I'm 25 years old right now (and I'm not), what is Indiana Jones to me? Well, it's two or three movies my (grand)parents really liked. It's a bad movie that came out when I was 9. It's two serviceable Lego video games that I didn't play 15 years ago because I had no attachment to the franchise. It's a Fortnite skin. It's a decent-to-good movie about finding meaning in growing old which I can't relate to because I'm 25. And soon, it will be a video game. Indiana Jones is a massive franchise that's spent the better part of the last 35 years sitting on a shelf then occasionally being picked up and marketed directly to the people who already liked it, before being put back on the shelf again. The franchise needed its own Clone Wars animated series or something. An ambiguously-aged CGI Indy going on adventures with a team of other archaeologists vs. some rival crew of archaeologists in darker clothes so we know they're the bad ones. Probably not Nazis, too hard to explain. This gets you to the point where kids grow up with an Indiana Jones aimed at their demographic, then they can grow into the more adult parts of the franchise and be interested when there's an Indiana Jones video game. I don't see them doing anything to get *new* people interested in Indiana Jones. Nostalgic parents will only get them so far.

[@HackerAtesh]

Surprised no Wolverine, is that a final title?

[@demo_sphere]

the ending left me in tears

[@Modelskinny]

By one human being Kyle, what about River Phoenix?!?

[@noben97]

Don‘t know if anyone said it yet but I really like the new background this season :)

[@TagardMC]

(apologies to Flannery and the Phoenix family)

[@johnwiswell4022]

Kyle wants a Hulkbuster Iron Man game and I respect it.

[@dirtyshubb]

Great episode as always but I will say putting Wonder Woman above captain America and black panther in terms of brand strength seems really strange to me.

[@librarygary1618]

Black Panther and Captain America have only really become relevant in the last decade because of the MCU. The Lynda Carter Wonder Woman show was a hit on prime time TV all the way back in the 70s. In terms of overall brand strength she smokes both of them.

[@chuc.dxq3809]

I didn't know Captain America till 2011 movie. I know Wonder Woman from when I'm 7 or 8 years old. I was born in 1990.

[@librarygary1618]

​​@carruthers100aptain America had a single TV movie from 1979 that was universally panned and that I didn't even know existed until I just googled it. Wonder Woman was one of ABC/CBS's biggest shows while it was on. Not even remotely comparable.

[@dirtyshubb]

@@chuc.dxq3809 but we are talking about current standings of the characters and I would argue captain America and black panther is far more relevant than wonder woman is, especially amongst younger audiences.

[@wlchrbanditgaming]

​@@librarygary1618brand strength not brand recognition. Wonder Woman has had one kinda decent, and one terrible solo movie. Plus the mediocre justice league film. Captain America's weakest movie was his first, he's only grown in popularity as the Marvel films came out. He was done perfectly in Infinity War and Endgame. Black Panther too. These movies have left a huge impression on the whole superhero genre, whereas I'd argue that the Wonder Woman films were pretty forgettable.

[@gregrea9545]

I’ve been meaning to watch No Time To Die for years. I’m so glad I actually paused this to watch it. I actually really liked the ending.

[@falagarius]

I've watched Spaceballs like 10 times 15 years before I've watched my first Star Wars movie.

[@elementInfinitium]

Brandon Jones is fuming, wherever he is

[@charoleawood]

Maybe Jonesy understands that both the game and franchise have an uphill battle. But even if the game sells well and is called "great" by players the franchise itself will still be rather weak until it can produce a film that sells tickets. Or maybe an Indiana Jones television show will become a hit, a great game alone will not make Indiana Jones a strong competing multimedia franchise.

[@SuperRiley5]

There's also that Wolverine game.

[@araknieretro]

Insomniac has already resciended his official "Friend of Spider-Man Card" for that blunder. Sorry Kyle, i don't make the rules.

[@OmahaGTP]

It’s nice to know what song I’ll have in my head this weekend. “When your room looks kind of weird and you wish that you weren’t there…”

[@Sticks_of_Truth]

River Phoenix played a young Indy.

[@martymcintosh5026]

i know people here saying "what about River Phoenix", but what about Sean Patrick Flanery

[@charoleawood]

Kyle referenced him saying "apologies to whoever this is" 3:28

[@ergohash2517]

IO interactive's cursor is indeed a delayed input effect

[@ariwl1]

I wasn't watching the screen at the beginning of the video so at first I thought it was another ad. That was an interesting couple of seconds. XD

[@Jayzgame]

Where would Wolverine land though

[@kmn2222]

nothing will make me more nostalgic about references I have yet to understand because I was a kid like in Space jam when out of nowhere they did pulp fiction reference. I had no idea what was going on

[@NileSings]

I woke my dog up losing my mind to the opening bit😂

[@pixelfenix]

Another perfectly cut ending

[@JonCofer]

Kyle was that your best Sauruman impression because color me impressed

[@360spinupdownup]

I'm looking forward to the next game from Machine Games. I've been a big fan of their work from the early Starbreeze days. They've made so many great games. Enclave HD just came out and it just goes to show how long they've had a huge talent for making games. Also their templar game is easy to miss as their Riddick game is one of their most recognizable work.

[@Synathidy]

Hey, that recording at the start sounded like me every morning I have to wake up.

[@Boonehams]

Hey, where would the upcoming Toxic Crusaders game land on the chart?

[@have345]

The end of a billiam video is the start of a delayed input, like is a circle

[@MJSHappy]

I love how Kyle in the intro is about to turn off the recording, and then starts nodding his head like “let him cook”

[@xdtrigger]

🎶this is 🎵 it’s getting more prominent for me.

[@antivanti]

My personal favorite piece of Indiana Jones media does actually not involve Harrison Ford. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis is one of my favorite games from my teens

[@PSpiceProof]

I was fully expecting some honking in your sleep

[@jellord]

They should put Indie in the next Mortal Combat so we can have a better visual of what Disney has done to this franchise.

[@FrothingFanboy]

I have that Disney Adventures issue. It's a promo for Tomorrow Never Dies, so you must have seen Goldeneye late. I saw Goldeneye in 1995, 6 years old. So much for kids not knowing who James Bond is. ^_^

[@maynardburger]

Well thanks for putting the fucking Muppet Babies theme song in my head for hours now.

[@RappingNinja]

God dammit this video title hurts me. I love like… five different Indiana Jones games. I’d rather play as him than some imitator. But after the Dial of Destiny box office… it’s sadly true.

[@TheRedWisdom]

I haven't watched no time to die yet and want to :( Never imagined that would stop me from watching a delayed input. Be back in a few hours.

[@Exxcalibur186]

I fast forwarded until the Craig thumbnail was gone 😄

[@GoatJesus]

Whenever Kyle says "this is" it 100% sounds like he's about to sing "the story of a girl" next.

[@anerdyenby]

Yes, that is the running gag!

[@HackerAtesh]

I still have no idea why he started it

[@traaaaaavis]

Is Insomniac still coming out with the Wolverine game they teased however long ago?

[@ryanmartinez1703]

I've been thinking about specifically these licensed games forever now, thank you for this lol

[@DivebombMovies]

pretty sure I played the indiana jones fate of atlantis game as a kid before I saw the films. in games I think indiana jones has always been really well represented and portrayed in games, and the games have always been great, but maybe that's just an old man perspective at this point. thinking of the old pc games, the super nintendo platformer by factor5, and also the other 3d factor5 game (infernal machine maybe). the lego indiana jones game for wii was also really really good because it had the exploit thing so you could install the hack homebrew stuff on it LOL

[@TotemoGaijin]

Still blows my mind that Disney thought it was a good idea to make another movie after how bad Crystal Skull was. Even Dan Aykroyd wouldn't touch that one.

[@BBladem83]

I really hope the Bond game is good. Great episode, Kyle!!!!

[@redomagnus4762]

I was dying from that opening joke😂

[@Leitefsj]

I love the singing "this is" 😂

[@Jughulator]

That fourth movie along with cancelling that 360 AAA project hurt the brand to this day imo

[@benfranklincatappleshark]

12:21 - Was waiting for the joke for the incorrect graph with 2x Wonder Woman's and the missing 007, but it never came.

[@CharlieGreene24242]

Obsessed with the turtleneck theme of this season.

[@williamaguilar9389]

Hahaha oh my gosh did Kyle Bosman see my comment on the Grinch videogame trailer!!? You know what you have to do Kyle you know you gotta play it!

[@nathanbraun2067]

Kyle, you didn't grow up watching James Bond Jr.? that's how I knew about james bond as a kid

[@MonsterMJ]

great episode kyle ;)

[@user-ot2me4ic3s]

this episode has everything you want from a final bosman

[@judsoncoe]

Can someone explain to me honk running gag? I’m out of the loop.

[@charoleawood]

He used to do a Shrek joke every episode, but decided to retire that gag and now puts in a honk! every episode. In this specific instance, it's highlighting the fact that he's lying out of his teeth when he says "Narrative driven blockbuster action games never turn out bad", in case that wasn't clear from how he positioned the game on the graph.

[@HoneyDoHomestead]

"James Bond's girlfriend and daughter" 🤣 given the reputation of James Bond, I genuinely didn't know if there was a comma in that statement.

[@cruuump]

great ep bosman

[@kolo5141]

What about Iron Man game GTA5 style where you are Tony Stark, you can run around big map, drive cars and so on. You can suit up only in your house but after some upgrades you can call it in on a flat surface but after all the upgrades you can suit up when riding on a motorbike or falling from a great heights.

[@charoleawood]

I think you mean "Just Cause style".

[@kolo5141]

@@charoleawood GTA5 style because of interactivity. Just Cause would be similar in terms of destruction and flying (DLC to 3rd).

[@charoleawood]

@@kolo5141 I'm not sure then what you mean by interactivity --- physics and destruction are what's needed to make an Iron Man game engaging and interactive. The GTA5 characters, meanwhile, aren't superheroes, they're just people engaged in criminal activities, their actions are more grounded. Iron Man is not grounded. If it were possible to make a game about Tony Stark before he became Iron Man then GTA5 would be more appropriate.

[@kolo5141]

@@charoleawood That's why I said Tony Stark and not Iron Man. That his life in a city is different than being superhero. I want living city like in GTA because there is more incentive to protect it. There is nothing like that in Just Cause games because all the people are like puppets and you just go from one enemy base to another. That is why I specified GTA5 because there is a lot more to that world than just drive drive shoot shoot.

[@osohista]

7:12 Whoah, I was slightly startled they're one person.

[@onixtalks]

Holy crap, that Disney Adventures magazine is unadulterated nostalgia. Wow.

[@DOC_951]

Here for Doug Funny, stayed for James Bond kicking Princess Jasmine. This episode had everything!

[@SpursBoy]

I really need to buy some turtlenecks.

[@notyurrealdad8743]

Is 30 years the longest delayed input?

[@foodwich2132]

I've heard some excellent Harrison Ford impressions over the years. Getting a soundalike is something I'm not worried about

[@Crokto]

iirc there were good soundalikes for him in previous indiana jones games. but theres just something sad and off-putting to me about casting soundalikes. get the original actor or cast the best actor for the role. and if the best actor for the role can do a mean harrison ford...ask him not to.

[@Exxcalibur186]

I think it's AJ Locasio that does a pretty good Harrison Ford apparently

[@foodwich2132]

@@Exxcalibur186 He was Marty in the Telltale BTTF game too and his voice was scarily similiar to Michael J. Fox it was ridiculous.

[@Janiz1998]

I have a trailing mouse and one of my coworkers hates seeing it when I share my screen lol

[@iXiClub]

Placing Wonder Woman where you did with what you said.. lmao, I see this joke is so high level that it's not being recognized in the comments.

[@InnerRise]

I only recognized that something was wrong but gave up.

[@MakubexGB]

Is it just me or does every time Bosman says "this is" he sounds like he's singing Absolutely (Story of a Girl) by Nine Days?

[@Sjinobi]

Yes it's definitely you

[@Aragorn7884]

🐢neck Bosman returns!

[@garrettfaulkes7309]

That James Bond rant was top tier

[@glungusgongus]

I got into FF7 Ever Crisis early access

[@YoJimBoHugabaJoe]

one of the few amusing hosts of game trailers,didnt realise he had a channel

[@GigaMan91]

Why did he erase Project 007 and add a second Wonder Woman in the last chart? XD

[@FatherofEunice]

This hurt Jones' heart

[@L1NCHP1N]

Shocked that the “it belongs in a museum” joke was not made here

[@MrTichamon]

No Wolverine?

[@klastical8701]

No mention of wolverine?

[@Jack655321]

How in the hell are you still rocking that 1st gen iPhoneSE Kyle? :D

[@DunnCarnage]

I guess you make enough evil pacts you get weird sleep

[@DuranmanX]

No mention of Wolverine?

[@jmac217x]

an ideal Indiana Jones game just needs a small team who knows adventure games. "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis" is not just a good Indiana Jones game, it's a great adventure game. Putting someone like Double Fine on it would have easily built hype for the franchise again. I actually have no faith in any of these licensed games because they're all based on their movie counterparts and cash grabs like that never have any enthusiasm from their developers or if they do they're crushed by the parent studio.

[@LongForgottenOne]

Love you bossman

[@Cleanframe]

Are you saying Ironman is iron deficient!?😏

[@bjkorb7272]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the upcoming wolverine game

[@Sputnik34]

3:21 why did you nearly burst out laughing saying "tonight" i need answers this will haunt me.

[@realmofjohn]

You forgot Insomniacs Wolverine game!

[@Totavier]

I'm not going to lie but I never watched the Indiana Jones movies when I was a kid too (actually I watched the films when I was in my 20's years), my first exposure to the franchise were in references like: 14:11 OH come on!, you too!?, lol!.

[@Kaleb_SMILE]

Trying to wrap my mind around Kyle thinking Iron Man is a weaker license than Cap+BP but Wonder Woman is stronger than them???? Black Panther alone clears WW in brand strength if the box office is anything to go by.

[@AlabastreAizo]

I was born in the 90s and can barely remember shit from all the muppets and doug I watched. How do you remember these specific things? Jealous of your memory powers.

[@yash_kapoor]

This title hurt me I hope you know that 😢

[@jlybomber1]

Is KOTOR not considered a licensed IP because it’s a remake?

[@guitarskill]

Woman Woman is in a quantum super-position at 12:18.