Thank you to Gwen Adshead for taking part in this episode. You can purchase Gwen's latest book The Devil You Know by following this link and using the code Event20 for a 20% discount: www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571357604-the-devil-you-know/
@ЄвгенК-у9л10 ай бұрын
l live in Dnipro city, very close to the fighting, who wants to come, I’ll host you with me, get to know my cats)
@markjones133710 ай бұрын
Your work is "real" yeah...........so is everyone else's work,.......their work is real. Stacking shelves......real.....call centre....real....uber bike delivery ...real.....middle manager in a wholesale......real.................how dear you have the ordesity/territory to make claim to the word "real".............you muppet............
@OncleClara10 ай бұрын
I’ve read her book and it’s utterly fantastic.
@sensemaya110 ай бұрын
I won't be purchasing her book.
@otomesavesus67799 ай бұрын
I'd really love to hear more from her and people with her job
@jlongino5182310 ай бұрын
Retired paramedic here. In my 23 years of working alongside many healthcare professionals with many titles and initials behind their names. Not many people have this level of knowledge or compassion for their fellow man. I hope she finds her career has been and continues to be successful because of who she is as a provider and a person.
@ThatTaRaGiRL10 ай бұрын
Hopefully one day she will focus her gift on people that really need it, who have a future and whose lives are worth investing in.........
@aw04tn5810 ай бұрын
@@ThatTaRaGiRLI suspect that she would tell you that the work she does is worth it to her
@Maggiemay7249310 ай бұрын
@@ThatTaRaGiRLI’m pretty sure she thinks her job is worth it
@erikm837210 ай бұрын
@ThatTaRaGiRL what an ignorant comment. If you “care” about people you don’t even know that much, whose lives are “actually worth investing in”, I would think you’d be grateful for a forensic psychiatrist doing the good work she does. Because God only knows-some of these British prison sentences are frighteningly short & not at ALL adequate… many criminals will eventually be released… a “life sentence” or a “whole life tariff” in the UK usually has fine print attached to it, like “life in prison…with a minimum of 30 years served before parole consideration”. So if they don’t get this sort of help at some point, before they’re released, they could go on to do it again! I mean, it’s well publicized & known that certain horrific British killers are now free, served less than 20-30 years, now living under new identities. Meanwhile the paparazzi & news end up finding them shopping and their picture gets plastered all over every newsstand and magazine. So we can only hope they got some good therapy while locked up… So be glad she’s helping counsel these people AT ALL…
@ThatTaRaGiRL10 ай бұрын
@@erikm8372 Sorry, but you clearly weren't paying attention to ALL my comments. I said it is a waste of tax dollars to waste the time on these monsters that are spending their LIFE in prison.... LIFERS 🙄 Tax dollars should be going towards people that are actually acting like human beings out here in the real world, who actually need the help! I don't pity a murderer, I don't care a out a murderer, and as far as I'm concerned, they're not on the same level as regular, every day humans who have this thing called EMPATHY, and a moral compass! Nobody is perfect, sure, but we're not all going around hacking people up when we don't get out way, either!! Including CHILDREN 🤬🔥 So save your pity party for someone that cares. Anyone that commits crimes as heinous as serial killers, child predators/murderers etc ARE NOT GETTING OUT before they're freaking dead, anyway! And I was pretty sure this show was based in Australia...I could be wrong about that one, though, and if I am then I will stand corrected.. but that little piece of info pales in comparison to the larger topic at hand here. Would you have all this sympathy and a buttery melted heart for someone that brutally murdered one of YOUR family members? Yeah... I'm sure you will skate around that one just for the sake of argument. There's no point in even responding, because I'M NOT CHANGING MY MIND. Unless you're just trying to look "better" in front of everyone else, there's no point in talking to ME.... and which opinion is "better" is COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE... I see MANY people here that share my opinion- are you going to start fighting with them ALL? 😅 Well good luck with that👍🏻 Take care!
@mumsie857810 ай бұрын
That smile in her eyes when asked about her childhood and how she'd go to the library with her mum...so precious
@katrinat.30329 ай бұрын
It reminded me of summertime book club. Do people even go to physical libraries anymore?
@mumsie85789 ай бұрын
@@katrinat.3032 i live in New Zealand, in a small country town and our library is still used. My son loves going
@courtneymacleod5889 ай бұрын
@@mumsie8578fellow kiwi here and I regularly visit the library and it is always packed! Such a special place
@Kvbain19677 ай бұрын
@@katrinat.3032im gen z and in the states and my dad and I just made plans to go to the library for fun today!
@mags28474 ай бұрын
@@katrinat.3032I’m older gen z and grew up going to the library. Till this day I still go pretty much every week!
@lorancehack520610 ай бұрын
She's a serial healer, bless her heart.
@crowbar956610 ай бұрын
She's not healing them, tahts a little beyond her professional abilities.
@heidiperez138710 ай бұрын
Love this analogy!
@thomasschiuma81059 ай бұрын
Yes in some sense: she's part of the solution that is breaking the cycle of abuse/retribution. Kind of a badass imho.
@arnljot90309 ай бұрын
Why give care to people who cared so little for their victims.
@VinnieG-9 ай бұрын
@@thomasschiuma8105 ... I'm sorry, are you saying you think that serial killers can be "cured" from their wickedness?
@i.am.heather9 ай бұрын
Corrections nurse here. This woman is top notch. It’s very hard to come across true compassionate providers to care for everyone in the human population.
@MissNurseNoir9 ай бұрын
@i.am.heather You have my deepest respect. I'm a psychiatric NP, formerly RN, and I know what it takes to be kind and professional in a harsh environment. It's a balancing act. Sadly, what people often don't understand is that people in our position don't have time or the inclination to judge our patients' mistakes. One simply can't work that way.
@i.am.heather9 ай бұрын
@@MissNurseNoirthank you for your kind words. 🩷 It’s very difficult to care for people that may or may not have sexually assaulted a child, murdered their spouse, beaten their wife, etc. I try not to look at charges but sometimes the inmates committed something so heinous, they’re in the news. I’ve seen it. I’ve seen some of the worst humans to walk the planet, but they’re still my patients and even though many would disagree - they still have basic human rights to food, water, shelter, clothing, *healthcare*. Sometimes these folks have been framed (especially the women), but at the point I’m caring for these folks, they haven’t been tried yet. It’s essentially a hold, so everytbjng is alleged even if they robbed the bank in broad daylight and the entire incident was caught on camera. 🤦🏼♀️ I did my absolute best to take care of these people. I am a Christian and did my best to emulate Christ’s love and compassion for absolutely everyone. There were some bad seeds, but I’d like to think the good outweigh the bad. ETA… while the inmates are awaiting trial, they receive therapy services. Many of these inmates are victims themselves. I can’t tell you a percentage of them that were abused in every way possible as a child by multiple adults in their lives. They were failed. I’d say 99/100 of them experienced some form of abuse and/or severe trauma. I feel there’s both a psychological and biological trigger for them to where they’re predispositioned to commit violent acts. Just my opinion…
@psychshell46449 ай бұрын
Your job is important and very difficult as well. ❤ I was a nurse for 20 yrs and now have a MA in Forensic Psychology. Corrections takes a lot of cajones
@rachealfields28518 ай бұрын
My aunts Do rehabilitation work and they judge everyone and hate their job!
@BleckBluck6 ай бұрын
it's very important for professionals to keep their sense of humanity because I was a patient in a psychiatric hospital 3 times for depression and it gave me lots of trauma due to the abuse the nurses put me and all of my friends and fellow patients through. It's still very hard for me to trust professionals and it has made me deny treatment and lie, I hope I can still regain faith
@Stufunabu7 ай бұрын
"I think revenge, although a very natural and human emotion, is an emotion that we can't afford" so incredibly well spoken.
@hugolindum77285 ай бұрын
Revenge is justice in the worst cases. To not extract revenge can be morally wrong.
@wolcek5 ай бұрын
It's what she says next is crucial "it is not good for us to be vengeful, does things to you, *actually can take to to a place that you kill* ". Revenge is destructive.
@DeJaVuCa5 ай бұрын
Is it revenge or setting boundaries? USA is so bad many states have the death penalty
@nunyabizniz19835 ай бұрын
Absolutely, revenge is an emotional response. A normal one in my opinion. But as much as we may be disgusted by what an individual has been convicted and is capable of, you have to separate human emotion from critical thought. You have to use logic to deal with people sometimes. These are those times. That takes a truly emotionally strong person. Kudos to her.
@mandyellis8764 ай бұрын
It seems that someone who hasn’t lost a loved one to such violence would believe this!
@portaccio10 ай бұрын
Love the fact she went full gansta at the end "this shit is real". I respect this woman.
@specialflake416610 ай бұрын
Yes. When she had Peter Sutcliffe pointed out to her she was like, "And?" She's hard as nails.
@Chase_Your_Passion10 ай бұрын
I rewatched a couple of times, the only time she broke character
@snowmonster429 ай бұрын
@@Chase_Your_PassionI don't think she was actually breaking character. It is real and you can't read someone's mind based on their physical appearance.
@WeirdRoamingWolf2 ай бұрын
Nothing is real, everything is permitted
@aroundtheworldsanda10 ай бұрын
Even her tone of voice, although likely developed through practice, makes this interview entirely soothing and fascinating. I’d love to hear more from her!
@WasabiDreams10 ай бұрын
i agree, what an interesting person. I hope to find a podcast with her in
@Shebeast39 ай бұрын
me too
@xXxDigitalBathxXx9 ай бұрын
Me too !
@tranquility93259 ай бұрын
She's very warm and intriguing
@Trident_Gaming0310 ай бұрын
She was very meticulous in her answers, beautifully well done, and very inspiring
@ttttiiimmy10bit10 ай бұрын
which answers in particular did you find 'meticulous' ? what is your opinion on said answers ?
@HK-gm8pe10 ай бұрын
yes she has such a calm energy about her and soo empathetic ( like all psychiatrists should be )
@Trident_Gaming0310 ай бұрын
@justletmesigninokthx She's very careful not to downplay any emotions of either side, whether it be victim or attacker. You're being annoying for reasons I don't understand.
@markjones133710 ай бұрын
@@Trident_Gaming03don't downplay the emotion............that way.........muppets won't focus...........on ACTUAL loss of life, loss of father, loss of a mother, loss of a brother or sister or a son or daughter...............I wonder how far your compassion will extend when it's one of your family (mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter)..........yeah let's see your YT comment Compassion then.
@Trident_Gaming0310 ай бұрын
@@markjones1337 You could've put a third of the ellipses you did and still get your point across lol So what are you upset about exactly? Me complimenting the forensic psychiatrist for respecting her clients?
@lindsay154910 ай бұрын
she’s incredibly unbiased and professional. no bs or dramatization for the cameras. i bet she’s great at her job.
@aegontargaryen93228 ай бұрын
Yea , absolutely Lindsay . I actually felt like it was relaxing to listen to her voice . I would say this lady is one of the best you can get in that field
@socrabe7 ай бұрын
Just the fact that she says "people who have done terrible things" instead of saying "killers" and "thieves" says a lot about her compassion.
@alishahandley21426 ай бұрын
@@socrabe Exactly! People are human no matter how bad their actions are. While it's still difficult to accept, there is always a reason behind someone's actions.
@melissahin67785 ай бұрын
@@alishahandley2142 I don't think you would think that way if someone brutally murdered someone close to you.
@Harlow_Khmer5 ай бұрын
@@melissahin6778right! The other person is either delusional AF or full of crap and trying to act high and mighty on KZbin 😂. I'm sure they'll report my comment to them.
@lyadmilo7 ай бұрын
I don't think I have ever seen such a clear display of both ferocious intellectual curiosity and boundless compassion. I hope to be more like this woman.
@SamuelHolt198010 ай бұрын
The compassion and care she displays are something we can all learn from. Compassion and care will do more to fix the ills of society than punishment and vengeance.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix573310 ай бұрын
Not compassion for these animals
@MsPiinkFllamingo10 ай бұрын
Yes 🙌🏼 I try to live this no matter how dark my heart might get day to day.
@Guru-ue2yp10 ай бұрын
If you believe that liberal bullshit then you live in fantasy land partner
@Guru-ue2yp10 ай бұрын
Compassion? Wonder how much compassion their victims felt as they breathed their last breath? Shame on you
@this_is_ironic565910 ай бұрын
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733you're a reactionary. like the Nazis. hopefully some day you'll realize that the prison system creates recidivism and only saps money away from taxpayers, meanwhile in Nordic countries such as Denmark, Sweden, and Norway, they have some of the lowest recidivism rates in the entire world because of the fact that they focus on rehabilitation, job training, and acclimating prisoners to productive civilian life
@apt504410 ай бұрын
This woman has a sense of calm and peace that would be so useful in this setting. She is compassionate, articulate, warm and intelligent. I also like her commitment to self-reflection.
@india142210 ай бұрын
When you are counseling people you yourself have to have supervision counseling
@apt504410 ай бұрын
@india1422 yes, I know. I used to work in a DD drug and alcohol residential therapeutic community. I have met therapists with some really weird vibes though. I like the feel of this lady.
@katrinat.30329 ай бұрын
@@apt5044 I know what you mean. There’s great psych health care providers out there, but in the mental health arena there is a certain amount who were drawn into d/t their own unresolved issues
@Laisper7 ай бұрын
My older brother was an undiagnosed, unmedicated schozophrenic with alcoholism. He was becoming increasingly reckless, paranoid, and dangerous. I knew in my heart my brother was going to do something horrible as his illness continued to worsen. I knew he was going to hurt or kill someone. He did end up killing someone. Himself. It is the worst feeling in the world knowing that if he hadn't, it was inevitable that he was going to harm other people... but knowing that there is someone in the world that views people like my brother as human and worth compassion brings me great comfort.
@movielibrary36087 ай бұрын
I have a similar situation, my sibling has a history of violence, dangerous delusions and in their case, a level of arrogance that would make them way more likely to kill someone else than harm themself. Honestly this woman frustrated me. There is a reason a person can be found guilty even if they're insane. I can think that someone is the antichrist but there are many ways that I can choose to react to that: hiding, calling the media, etc. The patient who killed the nurse after long deliberation, knowing it was wrong... what other non-violent solutions did they try? Any? Maybe they're just violent. There is something that goes beyond delusion if the answer to every delusion is "I will hurt/destroy this person." What gives you the right to take a person's life no matter what your delusions are telling you about that person? I've been through some shit (including growing up with this sadistic violent and schitzo-spectrum sibling) and I would never go to murder or violence as the solution to any of my problems because I have morals. "I have ptsd from all those times I beat the shit out of you... you sit there while I talk about it because I don't like to think of myself as a bad guy" is the kind of thing my narcissistic sibling would say and sounds like this woman would be fully on board. You know your brother best and how much sympathy he deserved, I'm glad you have peace, but sounds like this woman doles it out to any situation. I wonder how she deals with murderers who aren't insane.
@seaslug77 ай бұрын
@@movielibrary3608 i'm sorry to hear about what you've been through. she did say that the most disturbing people she meets are the ones that deny responsibility and blame others, but it wouldn't really do anyone any good to be vengeful. it's more constructive to get an understanding to why these things happen and try to prevent them.
@gisellel123576 ай бұрын
Firstly I’m sorry you had to experience that. Secondly I can relate with my son’s dad. It’s a strange mix of feelings. I choose not to think about it much but it’s affected me profoundly. As far as I know he’s the only one he actually ended but I wouldn’t be surprised if I hear something else happened.
@lilyw.7196 ай бұрын
@@movielibrary3608 100%. I chose not to even listen to this lady, because she's as good as an accomplice to these subhumans. "Mercy for the guilty is cruelty to the victims." That's a quote by one of the founding fathers, I believe John Adams.
@ALICE-m8f5 ай бұрын
Hi I'm so sorry about your brother. I also lost my brother to suicide a few years ago he was 48 , I'm also sure he may have been also undiagnosed schizophrenic and he had been acting strange leading up to the suicide. I think he might have had ADHD as well. I do remember him doing some strange and unpleasant things to me as a kid.
@MandyR01169 ай бұрын
I absolutely needed to hear this today. Hearing her say the worst she comes across are parents who abuse their children and are in denial. That’s so incredibly validating. Thank you
@TaharkahX9 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for what happened to you, Friend. Wishing you healing and success! 💰 ❤️
@dacgoddess9548 ай бұрын
That part💚💙💚💙
@cinamingrl7 ай бұрын
Yes I agree. It really resonated with me. As the daughter of a paranoid mother.
@SiobhanR286 ай бұрын
I feel this comment so much. Going through my own therapy journey atm and it's so hard.
@AffectionateAstroStation-lx5is2 ай бұрын
The British forget the genocide and Cruelty they inflicted on the world. The Germans were Civilised in Comparison.
@lisab564610 ай бұрын
I worked with Gwen at a medium secure unit and shes an expert at her job
@trees_are_round10 ай бұрын
It seems to me the interviewer wants the more sensational details, like the mention of the serial killer and moving bodies, and the psychiatrist gently and gracefully shoots those questions down. I like that about her because those circumstances are so rare, we can't expect that kind of behavior from everyone who she treats.
@niacanseeya9 ай бұрын
could be! sometimes interviewers ask from the audience’s perspective who are likely biased, so those preconceived notions can be addressed
@young__blacksmith9 ай бұрын
@@niacanseeyaexactly my thoughts. These are questions that most people would have. It makes sense to ask the expert so she can debunk any misinformation
@cady__9 ай бұрын
@@young__blacksmithyes, and an ethical psychiatrist wouldn’t go down that road. It’s nice to see her keep her ethics in tact and stick to her job.
@conantheseptuagenarian38249 ай бұрын
yeah, that's pretty pathetic of the interviewer.
@rebeccab10648 ай бұрын
I was thinking just this, that the intervewer's focus is on the questions she thinks her audience will want to hear, and the psychiatrist's focus is on educating viewers about the reality of mental health and humanising her patients.
@dw5664410 ай бұрын
Huge respect for this lady. What an ability to see the humans (and the pain) behind the acts that many would consider "evil".
@lolapapa529710 ай бұрын
How would you name the actions of serial killer??
@NunyaBizzzzz10 ай бұрын
@lolapapa5297 in psychology they don't reference their actions as evil. Because it prevents them from getting better.
@UwUImTheo9 ай бұрын
@@lolapapa5297sadistic maybe? Depends on why they did what they did
@Shebeast39 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@lolapapa52979 ай бұрын
@@UwUImTheo it is more professional osychoanalitical speaking🙏
@nunyabizniz19835 ай бұрын
I was attacked by a schizophrenic with a machete in 2015. It affected me and my children who were witness to it. I had ptsd and an anxiety disorder. My children ended up with anxiety also. Thankfully I managed to fight her off and I thank my brother for putting me into martial arts training from young. Thats what saved us that day. We later found out from her 5 year old daughter who was very grown up for a 5 year old…. She didn’t speak English, a neighbour of mine translated that her mother had been off her medication for some time. Obviously she couldn’t say how long but a 5 year old to realise she wasn’t taking medication she needed is insane. I instantly felt awful for feeling bad for myself although I hated her for what she put me and my children through. I felt terrible for her 5 year old daughter who lived with her on a daily basis with NOBODY CHECKING ON THEM BOTH!! There is a failure in mental illness. Their issues affect others eventually. However as much as I hate her for our ongoing issues I wish her and especially her daughter the best.
@asilliajacobs67755 ай бұрын
Honestly that’s so big of you to even wish them well! The compassion you choose to have is amazing. I think it’s so important to do so when it comes to mental health so for you to do so as a victim is great. Most ppl would not see it as you do. 🫶🏾 I hope you’re doing well
@nunyabizniz19835 ай бұрын
@@asilliajacobs6775 thank you darling, I’m doing much better these days, my girls are too. Once we moved home and I was put on good anxiety medication I started to feel so much better. Staying mad doesn’t change anything does it? It was better for me to forgive and try and understand than to stay hateful. Chances are the woman who attacked us probably doesn’t even remember the event. It’s sad really. I hope her daughter is safe and thriving though. As she was witness to the entire thing. It must’ve really affected her too. Plus seeing her mum get arrested by police. Horrible x
@LaughingblueSuАй бұрын
@nunyabizniz1983 I need to take a self defense course. Thank you for your story, and I'm so glad you are well.
@nunyabizniz1983Ай бұрын
@ do it! You won’t regret it. I’m much better now thank you. Merry Christmas 🎄
@GnarlyCoward9 ай бұрын
This is exactly the type of person you would want working in her line of work. Empathetic, compassionate, and thoughtful.
@Una...9 ай бұрын
For those who think her showing compassion for these people is terrible, and what about the victims, I'd say this; What she does helps get into the minds of these people, why they did those things, etc. In a very significant way, doing so gives us a chance to recognize the symptoms of extreme mental illness that leads to violence, which may lead to less violence/fewer victims in the future, and also could help future victims understand what happened to them (help them to cope, to not blame themselves, etc). Her job is not just about the perpetrators. Also, I wonder how many actually watched the entire video?
@katrinat.30329 ай бұрын
I don’t know what comments you’re reading
@chromberries73299 ай бұрын
I don't know why people find it hard to understand that you can have compassion for both serial killers AND their victims...
@Nyxeline8 ай бұрын
RIGHT? The replies on some of these comments are just insane. IDid you know there's an entire order called the Poor Claires? personally was very interested in her mindset and what she had to say. it takes a very humble person to be this way and still hold herself in check and not turn into one of these repliers. Cause it's when you lose your humanity, that replies like this happen.
@Nyxeline8 ай бұрын
@@katrinat.3032 tons of comments above that as soon as you drop down and read replies, you'll see why this was written.
@heehoopeanut4207 ай бұрын
@@katrinat.3032hopefully mine😂
@axaide421010 ай бұрын
Her answers were excellent, extremely intelligent and perceptive. I appreciate her answer at the end of the interview about the cost of revenge.
@madtoad710 ай бұрын
What i most admire about her is the fact she said all her patients were not “evil” but “sad”, and she also had compassion for the people who comitted such acts of violence. She is like the bright light you find at the end of a dark road, a beacon in the darkness. Her heart shines bright for you and fights for you to be at peace with yourself even if it seems impossible, whatever the circumstance, this lady is a very special person indeed.
@mendmywings723810 ай бұрын
Not always but in some cases I'm sure, if compassion had been shown to the criminal earlier, maybe things would be different. Maybe not.
@kittydonovan145210 ай бұрын
She’s like a earth angel. Most could never have compassion for such crimes but none judgement and compassion for everyone is key.
@TMMReznor10 ай бұрын
When you say "bright light" did you actually mean "dingy puddle"?
@davidguardado473910 ай бұрын
100 % we NEED Women and people like this that are more than capable of doing the work she does. We need to appreciate how hard her life's work is and how commendable she is.
@marciabarreto78010 ай бұрын
I agree💖💖💖💖
@TheNinnyfee10 ай бұрын
The saddest thing is that most of those crimes are preventable. Mental illness is shrugged off until it escalates.
@Ashley-yy3de10 ай бұрын
Yes. There are very real barriers to receiving mental health care. Especially financial barriers. Imagine being mentally unwell and poor. You’ll likely continue to spiral downward until something awful happens and the system pulls you in
@Lady-Liberty-USA10 ай бұрын
No, it's that these people know how to hide, never trust a psychopath.
@iks912010 ай бұрын
No, it is very hard to prevent those things. It Seems to you that it was easy because you Know what happened, so everything before that moment seems logical to you. But, in reality, there is an endless list of risky people with risky minds and in delicate situations. Some, or even many, of those examples never escalate and everything stays in their minds, but some of them do. Law sistems are full of flaws everywhere, but even in case of trying to do the best, it is impossible to make perfect selections of "fatal ones" and "problematic but not fatal ones". And you can't just put everybody in institutions and prisons before having really solid arguments. Sad,tragic, but unfortunately that's how it is. Human mind is very complex.
@marciajones299310 ай бұрын
@@iks9120majority of people who murder, don’t have mental health problems. 😳😳
@alexlazzerly367710 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s all that “preventable” tbh.
@amandavandermerwe892210 ай бұрын
This lady is so well spoken. Her compassion and careful wording are astonishing. She deserves a medal.
@YumiYa196910 ай бұрын
Her intelligence is so outstanding, I could listen to her soft voice forever
@ColleenC-n5v10 ай бұрын
Sadness and grief are the most apt words to describe how I feel as a mother whose only child is quite schizophrenic. Thank you for shedding compassion and light into the lonely corners of this terrible darkness. Bless you Dr. Gwen
@truthseeker658410 ай бұрын
As a mother of a chronically ill child I just want to tell you: You are a very brave woman. Your life must be so hard. For me it was helpful to find out what are my resources that can actually make me feel better and to focus on them when times are especially hard. (Reading fiction novels for escape, having various animals, even exotic ones, meditation/meditative prayer, early Christian faith in a not all powerful but only good god that awaits me at the end of my life, "positive" crime movies where everything ends well for the heroes and some more). I wish you all the best and hope that your child gets the right medication to improve in health. I once met a young man with schizophrenia who had been through all sorts of treatment and hospitals. After years of useless treatment doctors finally found out that his lithium level was too low. For unknown reasons his body couldn´t uphold a normal lithium level. When he got lithium pills his mental problems vanished. He was so happy and grateful for this medication! So never give up - there might be a solution/improvement just round the corner (easy to say I know, I have to tell it to myself very often....) The all-loving God bless and help you!
@aegontargaryen93228 ай бұрын
Aww bless you , that must be so hard to deal with . I hope he is responding well to treatment and you guys can be as happy as possible
@shieh.47438 ай бұрын
I'm sorry you feel this way. I imagine it is difficult, but also your child is more than their mental health. Please look into the the work of Doctor Palmer on Ketogenic diets for bipolar and schizophrenia
@LorienInksong10 ай бұрын
This is such a fascinating interview. In a strange way it helped me feel a lot better about people who do harmful and horrible things; to know that they are still very human and that the violence harms their mental health as well is sad but it shows that there is still a person in there. Its comforting to hear that these people don't claim to be victims, and that the system of punishment includes mental health care.
@vivienm203710 ай бұрын
Was this new for you? Jesus christ........
@Ricard1807o10 ай бұрын
@@vivienm2037 It might look obvious on the surface and be obvious to you but people gain perspective on seemingly obvious things all the time. For example, me and a friend often tell each other about various experiences and our feedback often exposes to each other things that seem obvious to us both when said, but actually it took each of us to reveal that to the other. That's us giving each other perspective that we alone hadn't yet seen and I think videos like this can give similar perspective to people too
@annmarie479410 ай бұрын
Well, sorry to say, it doesn’t make me feel better to know how people commit horrible things. Reality, there is evil and good in this world and we make choices.
@Ricard1807o10 ай бұрын
@@annmarie4794 There's good and evil within all of us you could say, light and dark. If you are able to experience empathy and understanding for others who do bad things then it's easier to give that to the darker parts of yourself too. It doesn't mean you yourself will become a monster or that you don't care about the damage bad deeds can cause or that we shouldn't be responsible for our actions, just means you won't judge yourself and others as hard
@faunleong20379 ай бұрын
@@annmarie4794the world is far too big for things to only exist in black and white. we shouldnt look at everything in absolutes.
@jolindley971510 ай бұрын
I am a psychological therapist working with children and young people in care. Unfortunately I know these back stories all too often. It is a tragic state of affairs to all involved. This lady is on a higher level of understanding. Intelligence in all its forms are being demonstrated here. Beautiful interview towards a dark subject 🙏
@FollowAtheism-wk7jy9 ай бұрын
And it will only continue more and more until your group gets more proactive to prevent unnecessary harm. Your job of waiting for something bad to happen will never work in a trillion years. You have to PREVENT the seed and roots of the problem. Only the philosophy of antinatalism can do that.
@Maialeen8 ай бұрын
@FollowAtheism-wk7jy Really? So how can she PREVENT these things? Jump in her time traveling machine to find people she hasn't met yet? And how can a therapist working with troubled patients enact the philosophy of antinatalism? Do you understand the job description here? Do you understand literally anything?
@Tarotcooks8 ай бұрын
What's wrong with the population -population. 😂
@FollowAtheism-wk7jy8 ай бұрын
@@Maialeen Quote: *" So how can she PREVENT these things?"* Response: Thats EASY. She can go out in public or make a youtube channel advertising the philosophy of antinatalism, and explaining the logic of it, and a certain number of people will be convinced of it and not have kids. She also shouldn't have any and advertise others to do the same whomever she meets. Theists do the same with their false religion, she ought to do speak for the truth all the more!
@FollowAtheism-wk7jy8 ай бұрын
@@Maialeen Quote: *"And how can a therapist working with troubled patients enact the philosophy of antinatalism?"* Response: It depends where the patients are at in life. If they're sentenced to life in prison its WAY too late then. If they're in a therapist office in society, then THERE is where its not too late to explain the rationality of antinatalism. Whats YOUR plan to prevent p3d0philes? The conventional way? Which is to WAIT until they indulge themselves with a victim AND THEN attempt to fix the issue, ahahahha! See you only want to WAIT until something bad happens before you want to do something. The future would be criminals would root for you if they could.
@paulhancock37917 ай бұрын
The fact Adshead understands that the question of whether she might be capable of the same actions given the right circumstances is an important question to ask, demonstrates to me an incredibly honed and deep intelligence. We need more thinkers like her! This is one of the most fascinating episodes in this series!
@Defiantbluefire9 ай бұрын
The amount of sheer empathy this lovely person has is so refreshing
@juucca10 ай бұрын
She’s absolutely brilliant. Insane communication skills!
@SkullduggeryInTheGarden10 ай бұрын
This woman's grace and compassion are remarkable.
@dont-call-me-et-al10 ай бұрын
I'm a behavior specialist in a forensic psychiatric state hospital in the US. I never thought i'd know any murderers and now i know many. The most striking bit is how normal so many of them seem, even in comparison to the patients with zero violent crimes.
@conkodo4 ай бұрын
One of the roles I’m interested in myself
@shri08110 ай бұрын
Compassion and empathy is a quality that is missing in so many facets of life these days.Gwen displays both of those qualities so lucidly and admirably. Thanks for doing what you do.
@paula62210 ай бұрын
It is empathy and compassion that prevents us from harming or killing others,
@summerjohnson992910 ай бұрын
I did my OT Residency in a max security state hospital (US). This is a perfect explanation of how I feel about my time there. She describes everything perfectly, and it’s so validating to hear another healthcare professional with the same thoughts. The stories are sad; not scary or evil.
@francesbernard24456 ай бұрын
When I was eighteen years of age after being accepted into an Occupational Therapy post secondary diploma program I had made the mistake of marrying a month after beginning that post secondary education program. Big mistake.
@uhleessha5 ай бұрын
I agree- sad
@toniacollinske251810 ай бұрын
There's so much pain in this world. What a fascinating woman.
@jennd909110 ай бұрын
What an intelligent, wise and amazimg woman. Everyone should see this.
@ainsley148910 ай бұрын
Her commitment to empathy and compassion is inspiring. I think that empathy and compassion are most valuable in situations where being empathetic and compassionate is most difficult. She displays this beautifully and is making a positive difference in the world.
@Feehlo3826 ай бұрын
Clicked on this without realising who they were interviewing until I heard her speak. Dr Gwen is one of my heroes. I knew her voice but not her face as I've listened to the audio version of her book The Devil You Know a number of times. What people don't often understand is that in the UK psychiatrists aren't necessarily trained in therapy, but Dr Gwen Adshead is a remarkable example of both of her disciplines. I hope to be half the therapist she is.
@summerjohnson992910 ай бұрын
Thank you for mentioning Occupational Therapy (OT)! I am a mental Health Occupational Therapist and it’s so important to provide OT in places like Boradmore! The compassion is so necessary in this setting.
@madsro9010 ай бұрын
The level of empathy she has is insane and admirable in a way. A level I would never be able to get to with murderers, but I can very much appreciate that she has that trait.
@yelyahat9 ай бұрын
what a gorgeous person. if everyone only had a drop of the compassion this woman has the world would be a better place
@naimasophieАй бұрын
Honestly her compassion feel like it's detached from reality. If your child was raped, killed and dismembered, would you still show compassion and not want revenge ? She is able to have compassion cause she is outside, looking in.
@trollsnotwelcome780510 ай бұрын
This woman was born to do this kind of work. Intelligent, caring and emotional mature all of which are rare to see wrapped up in one persons personality. So glad she is doing this work ❤
@tessiepinkman9 ай бұрын
What an extraordinary person. My mother is a psychotherapist and I see a lot of my mother in her. It was really tough to grow up with severe mental health issues and a mother who's a psychotherapist, but now that I am an adult and have an easier time seeing things from an outside perspective I can see what an amazing woman my mother is. Not just for her work, but for adopting me - a child she was more or less certain would have extreme hardships mentally, and for her to be there for me even when I absolutely didn't deserve it. Thanks for this video, it not only taught me loads about the way the mental health system works and doesn't work in the UK which is always interesting _(I'm Swedish and live in Norway),_ but it made me think of mum, and that was really nice!
@waner177 ай бұрын
imagine how hard it was for kids that didn’t grow up with a psychotherapist for a parent but just a regular psycho…
@lenyaya35344 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone is undeserving of having someone being there for them
@BANKO00710 ай бұрын
The interviewer was extremely skillful in bringing out so much insight from this amazing lady.
@srirachaaaa10 ай бұрын
My grandmother used to teach in prison. People like this are invaluable in rehabilitation of criminals
@francesbernard24456 ай бұрын
I have all my life wanted to work in the rehabilitation medicine field. Finally I am being able to complete any post secondary education to get hired on to do so. I hope I can find a paid position where I offer care to people from diverse family backgrounds while they arer in hospital. I may not have enough physical strength to do that now other than maybe in administrative support.
@maceymooo6 ай бұрын
she does such a great job of inducing empathy for the unwell while not downplaying the horrors of the different situations that have been caused by them
@brookekilgore59376 ай бұрын
I love how realistic she is and honest about what she’s observed. I’ve always thought the same that not every person who has killed is automatically “psychopathic” , I think many people who have do not remain a threat. I think in self defense or when very mentally unwell those things can happen.
@patriciagillis100910 ай бұрын
I think it’s hard work for this woman to maintain her heroic compassion. I feel a better person for having heard her.
@oizson9810 ай бұрын
11:02 what she said here is very real. When my best friend committed suicide and I was responsible for all the funeral arrangements I also went into a kind of "functional mode" where i was dissosiacted, even thinking back to that period the memory feels like a nightmare episode too. So I guess these extreme neurological shocks be they self inflicted through murder or caused by the death of a loved one, reactions can be quite similar which is ironic. Consider the concepts of "blood debts" or honor killings, just hurt people reacting in a faulty way, hurting themselves and other who in turn hurt the next people, just waves of suffering (grief) for everyone involved. Oooh that got dark quick. Hey we can also spread waves of love and kindness like this dear Mrs Gwen Adshead. Thanks for your service to humanity in talking to these lost souls and thus surgically removing and rerouting their pathological thought patterns. You're literally a healer of the fabric of our shared field of consciousness as humanity. Good stuff.
@aylbdrmadison105110 ай бұрын
It's great you express your self!🥰😊 I think it's a shame there aren't standard classes that teach emotional balance. Maybe someday people in general will understand the importance of that. ❤🌍🌎🌏🌐
@laurenmilani996510 ай бұрын
This is so well written and I couldn’t agree more, I’m sorry for your loss I hope you’re doing well 🤍
@melshortir10 ай бұрын
Interesting. Now I think back on it, I had a similar experience when one of my best friend's passed away due to suicide. Also, focusing on who might potentially fall victim to the "domino effect" took up almost all my energy as well. A difficult experience.
@livewellwitheds68858 күн бұрын
i also lost my best friend to suicide. her name was Jen, and she was a wonderful person who i miss everyday. i hope you are doing okay, or at least better, now. losing somebody so close is life changing 🫂
@pattiohanley462010 ай бұрын
im impressed by her humbleness and the human respect she has for her clients which are extremely strong indicators to me that she is very good at what she does.
@StuartMiles746 ай бұрын
Dr. Adshead is so compassionate and objective. I wish I could have a conversation with her.
@tchrisou81210 ай бұрын
Respect to her and her work. I couldn't do it but I admire people who can and do.
@tipsylou8410 ай бұрын
I could listen to her for hours...the empathy she has for those individuals... amazing work her and her colleagues are doing
@francisfrain638510 ай бұрын
You have to be a tough minded person to try and put yourself into the shoes of some of the darkest souls that live today. Staring into the abiss and all that. Much respect to this woman.
@nadiaaraujo2099 ай бұрын
I'm so glad for people like her in this roles. They carry humanity forward in an almost literal way
@Melmaegwen10 ай бұрын
As a general practitioner physician and an aspiring psychiatrist, this interview was the most interest thing I watched in months...
@subaru723310 ай бұрын
Fascinating. I have Major Depression and I've been a patient on locked psychiatric units, only once in a hospital with violent offenders. Most people have very twisted ideas about mental illness and psychiatric health care that create terrible stigma and discrimination. As a nurse, I have great admiration for people who do this work.
@ahobimo7329 ай бұрын
If only more people were like this kind, gentle, compassionate woman.
@shellbournian10 ай бұрын
"It's hard to engage with people who are in denial of reality" *nods in American*
@V1brationCanine10 ай бұрын
Literal fascists running half the country and people pretend like it's normal.
@cortneybass571410 ай бұрын
How do Americans nod? 😂
@SMOOVKILL110 ай бұрын
@@cortneybass5714 Fentanyl is a big one.
@gsomethingsomething265810 ай бұрын
@@cortneybass5714 With a Big Mac stuffed in their mouth 😁 (jk)
@cortneybass571410 ай бұрын
@@gsomethingsomething2658 Big Macs are disgusting. 🤢
@darshanathapa998 ай бұрын
Exactly soldiers vs killers with severe mental health issues!! May God preserve this lady for a long long time. This lady has a lot of work to do and a lot of hearts to heal.
@SilentForce205 ай бұрын
This woman is extraordinary on every single level. I wish there would be more professionals out there like her, not just on the level of understanding, but also on her care and humanity ❤
@ammytshabatau184010 ай бұрын
People like her are meant to be in their jobs. Completely, because she takes it so seriously and so meticulous. She's excellent
@shaunh172510 ай бұрын
Gwen giving insight into the paranoia, guilt and mental delusion that comes from killing reminds me of Crime and Punishment and how Dostoyevsky did a great job of putting that rollercoaster of madness into a book
@rhiannonleigh50158 ай бұрын
You can tell she is a woman who truly LOVES the work she is doing, and with great reason! I’m an an extremely empathetic person but even I had to take a step back while watching this and realize I contribute to the issue. It’s so easy to forget that “hurt people hurt people”
@TarahMatson-zz2hj9 ай бұрын
This lady is exceptional. Her compassion for everyone involved in these terrible events is amazing. She is also very realistic about the human condition.
@KoolKate10 ай бұрын
Such a strong, reasonable and compassionate woman! All my respect to her!
@ishani21037 ай бұрын
She spoke like a saint. I have rarely come across this level of compassion ❤
@solbeltracando12010 ай бұрын
i am happy to see we all collectively love this gentle person, a piece of humanity has been restored
@9hybris10 ай бұрын
Her voice is so calming, I spent the whole video hipnotised.
@Katie-vy5rd10 ай бұрын
I really appreciated when shevsaid that under the right or same circumstances it could have been her. I have been a corrections nurse since covid and i have thought that same thing.. other nurses and staff are often surprised to see that I genuinely care for the incarcerated. I learned a long time ago about unconditional positive regard, i think its in my genes. Anyway, enjoyed this interview! Thanks
@Shebeast39 ай бұрын
incredible
@heehoopeanut4207 ай бұрын
So yall just openly admit you'd kill someone in a way that isn't self defense? Like am I missing something here? Have yall ever even had to kill an animal? I bet not, and it's fucming hard and sad so I highly doubt yall could kill someone and if you think you could, get tf away from me. Self defense is one thing... but damn. I think yall are downplaying the severity of TAKING SOMEONES LIFE AND ENDING IT is ...... *judgmental tea sip and side eye*
@Leticia-rc2lf7 ай бұрын
@@heehoopeanut420 Did you not watch the video? Are you deaf? She said under the right or same circumstances, anyone could kill a person. We're talking about mental illness in particular. Mental illness is not something people are always born with, it can develop throughout the years, and that can sadly happen to you, me, your parents, friends and everyone around us.
@lilyw.7196 ай бұрын
@@heehoopeanut420 All the Pollyanna's commenting on this video are absolutely nauseating. Bunch of bleeding heart liberals.
@SuchismitaSinghaRoy5 ай бұрын
@@heehoopeanut420 I mean she said the non-disturbing people who killed did it out of mental illness or malignant passion. In that state of mind a person won't think the consequence of their action. They are overpowered by the emotion and they commit the crime. Once the first stab goes in, the action can't be reversed - So, in goes the 2nd, the 3rd, the 4th and so on.. Only when that emotion has left them do they come to senses and realise what they have done and what will follow. Then, they try to hide the body but often times they get caught and that's why this mental hospital has it's inmates. As for personally, I have been in states of mind where I am not thinking my actions through, I procrastinate and and I end up feeling terribly guilty later.
@milkyspacelf80317 ай бұрын
Bless this lady. If more people had this mindset in the everyday world that this woman has then the world could be so much better.
@CaseClips118 ай бұрын
"Revenge, although a very natural human emotion, is an emotion that we can not afford" so powerful! We could all learn something so valuable from this precious human being!
@Squant6 ай бұрын
She lost me a little bit there. Revenge can be a fantastic tool for survival. If somebody sees you have the capacity to bite back harder than you got bit, they're probably going to think twice about messing with you in the future. It's a great quote for an ideal world though, just a shame we don't live in one.
@soniauk428410 ай бұрын
What a wonderful woman. Absolutely full of compassion and grace.
@danieloleary1067Ай бұрын
To dismember(cut up) a body you " are usually in a slightly odd state of mind?" Truly a enormous understatement.
@ccunha2710 ай бұрын
I wish people outside of the system received this kind of care.
@DeJaVuCa5 ай бұрын
Not happening in USA
@sarahpalubinski91418 ай бұрын
I am so impressed with how well she has articulated that these are just people who have gone thru some really hard things, made horrific decisions they must live with and how empathy is so present in her work.
@gabeteuton9 ай бұрын
so well spoken and soft, and by the end "this sh1t is real", so well placed, i was not expecting that from her, and it was beautiful
@Taylive8929 ай бұрын
Her attitude and perspective is something that I don’t think I could ever hold in her line of work but I respect the hell out of her for having it
@JasmineAnahera9 ай бұрын
Why am I not surprised she has an amazing cardigan when she is able to come across and present herself as so comforting and so empathetic? She’s incredible
@jackiea643610 ай бұрын
Totally riveting, her comment “This shit is real”, made me smile. Good interview 👍
@charlottek60518 ай бұрын
I work in mental health and it's refreshing and heart warming to see the compassion, none judgement and professional ethos she carries.
@naa-iemahlve199410 ай бұрын
She almost healed me with just her voice voice and compassion
@agerven10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this interview. It raised a lot of thoughts and questions in my mind, which i feel would be inappropriate to share here. But letting that stuff go around in my head gives me more insight in myself and adds to my stability. The one thing that is not clear to me is when Mrs. Adshead talks about therapy, which possibly could be very different from what i have in mind, but i don't know. Where i live people, in particular those who have killed multiple times, or those who have abused children multiple times, are sentenced to serve their time in prison, and are then placed in a TBS (Ter Beschikking Stelling van de regering) clinic. This means they are now "property of the government". The government and its psychiatrists believe that those people have a mental condition that can be cured, after which they can safely be released into society. What we see over and over again, in a long time of history, is that these people are very good in convincing psychiatrists and assistants of their progress. In time they will be allowed on leave for, example one weekend every month, for rehabilitation. During such a weekend they are mostly assigned to one or two assistant psychiatrists that accompany them and assure they do not escape or commit crimes. And more often than not, they do escape during those weekends and repeat the crimes for which they were convicted initially. So although i give my deep respects to Mrs. Adshead for the way she works and how she tells about it, i'd like to note that the therapy described by me above is futile in the cases i mentioned, and in the end does not lead to an increased safety of society.
@sensemaya110 ай бұрын
Having had to sit through listening to two psychiatrists being cross examined ( my son was murdered by a paranoid schizophenic conveniently diagnosed after the killing) I have lost any faith I had in the pursuit of forensic psychiatry. It is unscientific nonsense promoted by 'doctors' with the gift of the gab. Time and time again these 'experts' let these killers out and the pattern repeats itself resulting in loss of life and a lifetime of neverending, perpetual pain for the people the victim(s) leave behind. The psychiatrists are never held accountable. These killers should never be let out. But that would be against their human rights and it would be proven that forensic psychiatry does not work.
@whiskitty10 ай бұрын
My bf had a psychotic break from smoking too much weed and was extremely violent, had to call the police and he was warded at a psychiatric hospital. I think he would've killed me if the psychosis continued because of the illusions he was under. He has since recovered and was horrified by his actions. Yeah just putting it out there because a lot of people don't know the risk of marijuana - it's like playing Russian roulette, you never know if the psychoactive compounds can cause you to mentally break.
@SB-vp5km9 ай бұрын
I'm trying to quit and this hits hards damn. Glad you're okay❤❤
@heide-raquelfuss55809 ай бұрын
Weed is indeed doing brain damage, toxic to the body, thus brain. So many plants are toxic to your body. People laugh when i say that, because they use it or want to try it. You where lucky to survive this all. You did the right thing and probably you feel guilt, but you had no choice, because your instinct kicked in for survial.
@punishanpika8 ай бұрын
His Unconscious would have likely prevented him. Besides, that means he was close to snapping anyway.
@tarahill3088 ай бұрын
Something about the weed today. So many people mentioned smoking before having a psychotic episode.
@whiskitty8 ай бұрын
@@tarahill308 the older generation do say the psychoactive compounds were never this strong back in their day, saw it in a documentary
@teamLewis4410 ай бұрын
This is amazing that people like this woman existing and trying to help these murderers, not just turing around
@chickenlover65710 ай бұрын
FYI, the job of a forensic psychiatrist/psychologist is NOT primarily to help these people.
@teamLewis4410 ай бұрын
@@chickenlover657 what is it?
@chickenlover65710 ай бұрын
@@teamLewis44 Analysis for court.
@teamLewis4410 ай бұрын
@@chickenlover657 oh, I didn't know
@chickenlover65710 ай бұрын
@@teamLewis44 Well now you do: the main task of a forensic psychiatrist/psychologist is to assess the mental state/condition of the "patient" in regards to the accusation made by prosecution, or by claim of the defense. To put it bluntly, your job is not to help them, but to diagnose and evaluate them.
@chloeray07 ай бұрын
Shes has a calming and healing sprit within her, Incredible.
@katrinathecatlady9 ай бұрын
I love this woman! The compassion while still understanding who she is working with is amazing!
@deeyoung861110 ай бұрын
I appreciate how she differentiated between truly mentally ill vs what she more so describes as personality disordered people (like psychopaths/sociopaths) you find in family court. Her true fear is the “public” & outpatient. As a clinician, I feel the same way.
@greasetrap9510 ай бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever wanted to have a conversation with someone more! She expressed and expanded on so many philosophies I think about myself. She seems equal parts logic and sentiment. Deeply interesting lady!!
@patriciahannah532010 ай бұрын
This woman is a very special human. An Angel among us.
@anikabryn4 ай бұрын
as someone going to school for this field, this made me emotional. she makes this field of work fulfilling and incredibly beneficial instead of degrading and taxing. she is an inspiration to me for sure!
@justastranger98688 ай бұрын
Her demenour is incredibly calming, such an open mind and quite clearly positively influential for others. Very good work
@m1nc3m3at7 ай бұрын
This lady has so much class. I could listen to her all day.
@heidiperez138710 ай бұрын
What a wonderful human being! She is definitely in the right field with all the compassion she has towards violent criminals. Kudos to her!🙏👏❤
@gabs816610 ай бұрын
An incredible woman. Her book is also fantastic. Amazing to have so much compassion. I wish I were more like her!
@rickwrites261210 ай бұрын
Whats her book
@wolfc87559 ай бұрын
I very much appreciate her compassion. There are literally multitudes of people who have done things that are bad and/or very bad because they never got the care and help and support that *they* so desperately needed. We ignore the physical, emotional, and mental needs of others, or manage them so badly, at our own peril.
@conlon433210 ай бұрын
This woman is amazing and so interesting! I think it's a special kind of person who can do this work, and so needed. The ability to see the humanity in anyone, no matter what they've done, is unfortunately rare.
@MegaJamesno110 ай бұрын
Part two please🙌 great interview Love to see more questions.