Laird Hamilton's Relentless Pursuit of The Edge | Rich Roll Podcast

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Today big wave demigod and global fitness icon Laird Hamilton graces
the show to discuss his legendary career, training routines, entrepreneurship, and his impact on crossover board sports. This is a rumination on what makes us human-and a call to pursue adventure. Reconnect with nature. And approach our lives as a work of art. Enjoy!
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:01:01 - Rich and Laird Living in Hawaii
00:08:17 - Laird's Ability to Follow His Innovative Intuition
00:14:17 - Redefining an Athlete Beyond Competition
00:16:21 - Developing a DIY Mindset to Foster an Athletic Career
00:19:13 - Laird's Relationship with the Ocean
00:26:21 - Developing Awareness
00:28:28 - The Fragility of Life
00:30:49 - Balancing Longevity and Risk
00:39:33 - Prevalence of Substance Abuse in Surf Culture
00:43:23 - Willing to be a Beginner
00:46:13 - Checking Your Ego
00:49:49 - Never Let Your Memories Be Bigger than Your Dreams
00:51:51 - Innovation and Foresight
00:56:07 - Hydrofoil Boarding
00:57:44 - Are There More Waves to Surf?
01:00:32 - Don Wildman: No Stone Unturned
01:08:01 - Staying Innovative with Fitness Workouts
01:09:58 - Laird's Underwater Workouts
01:17:49 - Laird's Fitness in his 50's
01:19:37 - Mentorship
01:26:27 - Raising Daughters
01:32:41 - Being Married for Over 20 Years

01:37:42 - Laird Superfoods
01:43:35 - How to Market From Your Platform
01:47:05 - The Cast of Characters Laird Has Met
01:51:20 - Laird's Life Advice
01:56:29 - What's Next for Laird?
01:57:53 - Closing Remarks
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[@jpallen719]

Laird is so much more than a surfer dude, he’s such an aware astute smart man and even though he has taken wild chances in the surfing industry he’s always been alert and respectful of his surroundings. My hats off to this interview Rich!

[@garysnow1475]

He uses every second of his life! God I feel lazy!

[@RealSurfStories]

Very aware and astute indeed however nearly all of his commercial success has been outside of the surf industry.

[@carltoncotter2614]

"Always walk like you're a visitor." Nice.

[@vincentdegrasio2879]

Laird’s energy is contagious. Good dude.

[@wilharrison8883]

The thing I always love about Laird is how wide open he is with everything..... Including his laugh. Always feel like his extreme physical conditioning certainly keeps his mind jacked up as well. Thanks Laird for the example of how to be a good and proper wild man!!!

[@cusoonmyfriend3738]

you can when you are not living in Philadelphi'as streets a syringue in your arm

[@janefreeman4121]

Gotta love Laird! As an annual fan of the ironman championships, one year i got to be on the boat signifying the turn around point for the swim. Laird was on a paddleboard in waterman mode and so sweetly and diligently allowing the senior silver cap participants to hang onto his board and catch their breath.

[@liyaaa5941]

Wow. Sooo many gems in this interview. Absolutely incredible!!!

[@emmagatewood3898]

"It's like parenting- you can SAY whatever you want, but they (your kids) are just watching what you're DOING."-Laird... Wow. So true!! That one got me. Important to remember for those of us who are parents. 💜

[@allyncampbell9834]

I could listen to Laird, any time any where. He is humble knowledgeable and competitive and driven and loyal. A great combination.🙏🏼

[@Chasstful]

When someone in in pursuit of mental and physical perfection for 30+ years, you have become an enlightened soul. Laird Hamilton is there

[@SchuylerEByrne]

@@Chasstful totally

[@jenniferarnold-delgado3489]

Since its christmas , I have to share these few stories - I am a person who has been following Mr and Mrs Hamilton over the years , my daughter is a big wave surfer and I hired Derrick Doerner to coach her for 6 weeks when she had the dream of going to nursing school ... ha ha , not , when she had the dream of being a serious surfer . So instead of college , she went to Oahu and got an extremely appropriate and informative introduction to the waves of the seven mile miracle . She is now actually living the dream , she helped them get the Queen Of the Bay Red Bull event going , and its going on right now . She and my grandaughter ( In Utero ) were in the final edition of Surfer Mag in an article about women who feel serious about their relationship with the ocean . -- So I do art , photography music , and am a bit of an observer . Once in Oahu , there was this couple living in their van , and the van was just so supremely artistic . I stopped and photographed them , they were like , a rolling museum of North Shore History . They had some puka sunrise shell necklaces , and she told me a story ... when they would look for the shells , other people would steal them , so she would put the sunrise shells in her mouth , when she was out shelling . So there was a photographer from the local Honolulu newspaper and he went to take a photo of her , and she smiled , and it was a sunrise shell smile . So then she opened the van door . I promise this story is worth reading ... so in the van , is a flat screen TV on the side wall , and on the TV is pasted a photograph across the whole screen , of Laird Hamilton riding a giant wave . And she smiled at me and said " I used to babysit for him sometimes " and you could feel the aloha pouring out . SO that story said , now I am in Kauai , and its christmas time , and I am a christmas tree freak . In fact , that was the time when I learned that the tree is the representation of the enlightenment experience , like all the chakras going off till the star lights up ... because there was an orchid , yellow with rust colored leopard spots , and it had a branch that shot up that was the 2-D shape of a x mas tree , and it bloomed from the lower longer branches , up to the tip at the top , day by day . So , I was like " OH " cause i have loved x mas trees my whole life . So , it being x mas , at the home depot in Kauai , there is an outdoor space where they have the trees for sale . I happened to be going into Home Depot , more about that , one armed jack and his genius solution for reducing the mosquito population , ... and there he is . Mr Hamilton . But its not like a person walking on the ground . He actually surfs stable ground as if his is flying around in water . He is jumping over his truck bed , landing on the ground , runs into the stack of trees , grabs one - and sort of tosses it into his truck and pays and goes , and all this happened in about 3 seconds . Now , me , going to the tree farm with the fam , the dog comes , we got hot chocolate , we stand around and decided ... I would take 2 hours all together . Why am I telling this story ? Because this man does everything differently . I have seen this in other men also , they are somehow faster . Like they are in a different time field . Listening to Mr Hamilton talk on this show , is interesting but watching his visual focus and movements is really more helpful to learn from his energy picture . He focuses his eyes , and his body moves , but the eyes do not move . That is why I told the story about the tree . How did he get on that giant wave ? He kept the eyes focused on the beauty , and the body moves as it will . We are really blessed by these masters when they share their inner process with the rest of us .

[@royceracoma8864]

Lairds' a living legend!

[@michaelcicco9522]

He is a genuinely positive, motivating, cool guy. The world needs more Laird Hamilton's!

[@CaptainForest1]

Laird Hamilton is genuinely not a pleasure to be with in the water. Mainly cause he is a complete snake and has no regard to other people in the line up.

[@anatta467]

his understanding of metaphysics without actually knowing the concepts of them as a human simply chasing desires is very legit. He most def evolving in a great way

[@STARK557]

Laird is the Man, this pod cast is fantastic!!! thanks for I know you, congratuialations. God bless you and your family. ALOHA!!!

[@ennylyramtollah6739]

I am glad you guys got to surf your dream. I grew up in the era of Shaun and Mike Thomson in Africa and through countless attempts to join the surfing championships, e.g. Gunston 500, etc we were as woman blocked. Refused entry. I loved the water and could make my board speak on the waves, plus I was an ace swimmer. Sadly the men of this age have not apologised or even tried to make things right for the older woman who lost out. Who knows, maybe one day there will be a competition where one day the older woman will not be scorned at and given the same money and opportunities to surf again. When I see you I am grateful for that resistance as I have learnt so much. I am grateful for you all as every time I hear you have done something even more awesome on the waves, I am deeply happy for you and wish you everything of the best. This to me was a magnificent sport and is today. Go from strength to strength.

[@daletalaplaya5086]

Inspiring conversation of balance, innovation and that special brand of Laird's Wizardly wisdom.

[@counterpuncher01]

The word Great doesn't do Laird justice....there isn't a word to describe what a badass Laird is.

[@janefreeman4121]

So true about the islands. I've lived part of my childhood there, then a year on Kauai and most of my adult life on Hawaii Island. To survive and thrive just like the ocean theres no simply turning your back on the diversity of cultures and the mystical side of belief systems. Not to fabricate but ive had many an unexplained experience. Ive also witnessed what seems like the islands themselves chew people up and spit them back to the mainland. Maybe even having that thought and writing it down goes a bit far and steps on toes made of lava. There's a level of respect to stay within ambient good graces.

[@jzen1455]

I think one's aura (influenced by past actions, intent of future actions, and demeanor) they radiate is more noticeable and plays a larger role in how Hawaii treats you. Being made up of small isolated islands, there's very little room to run and hide from misdeeds and burned bridges especially on the less populated islands like Kauai where news spreads very fast among the 80,000 or so residents. The much larger population of Oahu may provide one with some buffer against misdeeds, but they still catch up with them quickly. Some outsiders may think the Kama'aina (people of the land of Hawaii) are superstitious, backwards, or 'wrong' in some manner and go stubbornly go against the grain of the culture. It could be something seemingly insignificant like constantly mispronouncing words or insistence on eschewing local vernacular. Or it could be something major like exerting dominance like you own the place (like Mark Zuckerberg trying to sue and force Hawaiians to sell their inherited land on Kauai) or not exercising proper etiquette in a surf lineup. Local residents will take notice and make life more unpleasant often to the point of being driven back to the mainland. Then there's the consequences of not respecting the mana (spiritual energy) of the islands...

[@vaskylark]

@@jzen1455 Are the people mean to outsiders? I've been to Oahu three times and I loved it there, but it's too pricey. I think everybody should try to fit into the culture they are visiting or living in, but if there is an intolerance like 'always an outside" even if you've been there twenty years then that is a different thing. Is that how it is? You can never be accepted?

[@PaulOReilly712]

Laird is 100% confident. not an insecure thought in his head His Goal Ride the biggest wave ever surfed in History 100 foot + Another goal he fulfilled! He knew the guy was killed at Teahupoo ( local, who died after being slammed into the reef in 2000)and to make it right for him he went out and took on that terrifying beast and destroyed it to take the fear of that place out of the minds of future surfers. A great Role Model of a Man ! Just be the best man you can be, the way God made you to be. ( Message to self)

[@MosesRabuka]

Such a humble guy man, beginners mind all day

[@antoniosantos4354]

Laird is such a soft-spoken and humble guy for an AWESOME greek god of an alpha male, for which he is known in the sporting world. But humility is always the REAL MARK of the greats among us. It is the INSECURE and the NARCISSISTIC among us who are always arrogant and proud. God bless us all.

[@jupitorious7925]

fantastic talk.. mesmerised !!

[@stevenbonchev1481]

What an outstanding episode that is!! Thanks, Rich and Laird.

[@PDXLANDBARON]

My time in Hawaii was the best time of my life. Army stationed at Scofield, Derussy, PTA, Barking Sands and Kahoolawe. Flying over the Pacific in a UH-1, landing on Molokai and bringing the kids on the Leper Colony Christmas gifts brings a smile to my face. Oh yes I rode Waimea at 25 feet. Now it's just NJ with palm trees.

[@priscillatellez2829]

In these uncertain times, this just made me happy...thank you both! ❤

[@nateshattuck4353]

It’s crazy but stay focused workout your mind and body and the other stuff will take care of itself god bless

[@garysnow1475]

Brings you up!

[@rollsgracie268]

I have to say I’ve never seen an interview of Laird this good he’s really become more enlightened and grounded on another level fascinating

[@guvstad]

power and control... in one package. marvel to see. 'ride every wave...'

[@mariajoseibizacoach6946]

The energy in the islands is very special & has its own energy... I've been living in an island in the Med call Ibiza for the past 25 yrs 🌟🌈🌟came out here straight from USA.... Thank you to both for an awesome conversation

[@brendantaylor3570]

Was it a big transition for you? Is it more difficult to find jobs/career on an island? Does it ever feel too small of a community? Ibiza looks beautiful.

[@janvoght5221]

Me too! It’s so the worthwhile path. I love that Gabby and Laird have been on this road Forever ❣️

[@jaykay6408]

Good to see laird give props to Oxbow..respect.

[@petjas16]

Thanks Rich & Laird for a nice conversation. 😁 I totally enjoyed the part when Laird talked about Donahue. They are both such a big adventurers, lovers of life who never stops exploring and trying new stuff. I love Dons quote: ‘’The moment you stop moving, it’s all over!’’

[@ronwilkinson2477]

Aloha Laird, I used to visit my brother back when you and your family lived at Pupukea, late 60's+. He lived in front, and lived in your house when you moved to Kauai, 71'. I was so lucky to meet and share waves with Billy and the KeNui heros, and meet you as a youngster, before your journey through life. I recently watched Jerry's ying/yang movie, and you both seem to have found Nirvana in similar ways. You mentioned a session with some buddies without much interference, and that was how I felt Pupukea was like for me. Never lock doors, recognizing who's at someone's house by their sandals, stuff lidat eh. Summer v-ball in front brought the neighborhood together. Your quite mellow and informative, and it's a pleasure to listen and absorb your experiences. Hi to the family, hope to sample all Gabby and your healthy eats. Papaya in any? ....Ron

[@jasonkoch3175]

Can't believe this dude is almost 60... geez. Guy looks so healthy.

[@gibememoni]

amazing how slowly you age when you never had to work a job in your life

[@fernandomaron87]

@@gibememoni It's all about eating healthy and taking care of the body, i know plenty of people who work hard and still manage to look young, while some people are packed with money and living an unhealthy lifestyle and looking old

[@martinwhite9691]

With respect to a hell man innovator big wave surfer.

[@jobywatermusic]

Laird and Rich thank you! I'm incredibly inspired by both of you. Top convo.

[@dwb197]

Such a great interview, Rich. Loved your questions, specifically regarding his relationship to water and the ocean. You could tell he fed off your lead and really clicked with you. Thank you for such great content! Laird’s energy and enthusiasm for life is contagious.

[@emilgiese]

Mahalo for interview! Mother ocean determines our lifestyle & you both have presented us with that passion!

[@gmann7874]

Rich and Laird thank you guys for an amazing talk about life. Rich this is the first time listening and I definitely dig your show. Laird, been following you for a while and enjoyed seeing the inspiration coming from your story. Really appreciate your guys energy!!!

[@robertof.5647]

Loved the interview. Inspiring and full of insights.

[@constancemurphy6230]

I just subscribed to here because of this interaction. Absolutely in awe of this man. What a great name - Laird.

[@jackstaub9221]

Been waiting a long time for this one! My two biggest heroes!!!

[@DuncanBolam]

Wow! That's it. This is the Rich Roll interview that finally made my TV redundant! In this sea of pandem-onium, these wise old dudes are the cure for so much brain ache. Respect to you Rich for bringing out so many pearls from Laird. There's a purity to his wisdom that is truly beautiful. Perhaps it originates from free-spirited karma of his symbiosis with the ocean vibe. I live in another universe to his world. Sadly. But both my wife and I said, should we jump on a plane and get a hit of the island lore that creates such a vital soul. I'm really grateful. The warmth of this conversation permeates the bleak British winter. Authenticity wins. Honesty shines. Peace on Purpose! #gratitude #onelove 🙏🏻

[@claireandersongrahamkeller2744]

GET ON THAT PLANE, DUNCAN, and go to Iao Valley, Ho'okipa, Honolua, and check out all the beautiful sunsets and sunrises, and you will feel your own vital soul flourishing. I am moving from Maui to Scotland, so I may see you in the UK! I love your comment: "The warmth of this conversation permeates the bleak British winter." I plan to bring Aloha to The UK, since I designed a 260-acre Regenerative Farming Community on Maui for 4 years, and lived 15 years in Permaculture --- and y'all would be inspired to eat real, local, amazing artisanal foods in vibrant, connected, loving community! I intend to grow this healthy, joyful. humble, grounded vibe across The UK, + Ireland! Aloha, Claire, Founder of The Orkney Permaculture Network, OPN since 2016.

[@DuncanBolam]

Do you know what,@@claireandersongrahamkeller2744 I'm seriously thinking about it! My wife lost her job last week, and we're kind of 'free'. Only barrier is the 22 hours in a metal tube with coronavirus! Thanks for the enthusiasm. I see your point 🙏🏻

[@DuncanBolam]

And I should add, we're about to move to Scotland too! My wife works in the sustainability field. Keep in touch and safe travels 🙏🏻

[@jasondolan8888]

@@DuncanBolam wife and I just made the trip. There’s never been a better time to go. Airports are cleaner and sparsely populated. The destination is well worth the trip.

[@DuncanBolam]

Sadly,@@jasondolan8888in these surreal times, it's not looking like Brits can fly... The flight-times surprisingly quick, direct 17 hrs from London. Only snag, we're lock-down tighter than a drum!

[@allyncampbell9834]

One of Rich’s best🙏🏼⭐️

[@gloria6396]

I LOVE THE FREEDOM OF THIS TALK

[@TheStarface09]

Laird is so cool!!!!! Love watching his interviews.. Smart guy!

[@brotherzeke8002]

Yeah, one step at a time. Coming from a guy who can drop in off a100 ft. Wave. Love Laird and Rich.

[@jordanpiper2178]

I've been purchasing the 'Laird Superfood (coffee) Creamer' for a few months and have a bag of the coffee scheduled to deliver today....good timing for this episode :)

[@thekeepinitrealpodcast4946]

Another great podcast Rich, thank you so much man big inspiration

[@adamromanowski5889]

Amazing conversation, Rich so perfectly prepared, yet totally natural, and Laird honest, open and inspiring. I had to pause few times, just to write down some words of wisdom. Thank You & Aloha :)

[@kirstenshindler7767]

Connecting to nature will save humanity! ❤️

[@timlawson8541]

Thanks for doing this Podcast. I have looked up to this amazing human for the best part of 30 years, when I started windsurfing. You produced a great interview, really enjoyed it. Thanks again.

[@davidguthrie3739]

Wim: The cold is my teacher. Laird: The ocean is my teacher. Elemental.

[@robjacquart4132]

@@digitaldaemon74 TGtlIy r b from T T T

[@mariahwilliams9530]

There is something to be said about deep diving into your passion and applying the knowledge learned to EVERYTHING you do. His applied knowledge is intimidating but also inspiring.

[@patrickodonovan5066]

That was great. Thank you for putting together this vlog.

[@elizabethb6286]

Excellent interview. Thank you.

[@shannonoldberg9731]

Terrific and illuminating conversation!! Thanks Rich and a special thanks to Laird for a willingness to be so candid!:)

[@emilsmikulis]

Love the podcast, keep manifesting everyone!🙏

[@haleybaroody8931]

Love Laird! Thanks Rich :)

[@katherinecudney9204]

Chuckling over Laird's suggestion that people scare themselves now and then. I was great friends with Cary Loftin, guru granddaddy of motion picture stunt drivers (Bullitt, et al). He was a proponent of that idea as well. Whenever he could, he used to drive by himself from CA to FL for the Daytona 500 (he loved that race and came out of retirement to drive a race car in the movie "Days of Thunder" when he was in his later 70s). When he got too tired to drive while out in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night an empty two-laner, he would throw his car into spin at speed and scare the ever living daylights out of himself! Wide awake again for another couple of hours.

[@SisterOfTheFireflies181]

Wow!

[@roberttempleton6248]

Hey little Ripper myself and Clancy aka: Captain Zodiac took you to tunnels surf sessions on Kauai when you were 13 years old! I knew you were destined for greatness! Page

[@mikeuptegrove]

Man, that story of Don reminds me of my buddy Jacques DuVol, who was a Korean War vet too, worked for JFK, had a helicopter business in South Africa that was shot down by locals, but ended up spending a half century directly in front of the Moana Surfrider at Waikiki. I surfed with the guy out at Pops all through his 70s. He surfed 3 times a day. I got his suicide letter at 87 years old. His prostate cancer got unbearable. He always told me he’d take acid and paddle out from Kewalos, but he was so broken by cancer he had to shoot himself on the rocks instead. The Navy gave me his flag. I think as a 20 something kid then, this 70 year old surfer left a major impression upon me, more so than many others. God bless the Korean War vets.

[@oldeenglish64]

LAIRDS THE MAN.. OG.. WISH I HAD THAT DUDES ENERGY..

[@janejeffery2615]

wow amazing and love the clarity about life and sport and experience and great interaction interview

[@robinking5744]

"I think you guys are going to really dig it" Wow, took me back in a time warp--A good one.

[@martinwhite9691]

We used my dads 14 foot boat a couple of times as a tow surf to ride 6 ft close outs in 83 then we put my dads boat up on the rocks then we had to pay to fix it and we had to cancel a trip to Bali.

[@gabrielmendoza7834]

I just watched this podcast this morning and it’s impacted my life in what I believe is going to be a transformative way and I want to leave with the proposal to build a submarine that could help Laird surf the biggest waves anyones ever seen. It’s a metaphor of course but I did work on a submarine. Thank you both for everything you do for humanity. I love you guys and I mean that. 💙

[@katiie7]

Loved this interview

[@johannatheone]

Great conversation! Inspiring and refreshing det

[@ryancanale6402]

Love the b-roll cuts!

[@patrickepps368]

Laird doesn’t age! Surfing legend for sure.

[@Chasstful]

To me, he stands alone as the greatest surfer ever. What makes it even more impressive, he was way too big tall to compete in the small wave competitions where guys like Kelly Slater dominate at 5'8". I'm 6'3" and I've been told I'm too tall to surf on small waves, and its true. Laird ignored convention and made his own style, a style that fit his body and in doing so surpassed the so-called greats of competition surfing.

[@SchuylerEByrne]

@@Chasstful never knew that about height and surfing...or that Slater is so damn short bahaha. Interesting, thx

[@JackKinross]

Amazing podcast. Thank you.

[@johnivanarciniega1960]

Good, good, good conversation! Thanks

[@starkotic]

I grew up with Billy and David in South Laguna. That's Laird's dad and uncle! Billy was THE most stylish surfer, possibly ever! So many sessions at Oak St. during High School.

[@caseyhansen4567]

I remember seeing Laird at Salt creek in the 80s and spent a lot of time surfing laguna Beach then including oak street rockpile Thalia etc

[@BattleBuddies4L]

Awesomeness

[@sandratessem9980]

Great interview. Love his energy.

[@chuzzwade288]

Amazing interview 👍🏼

[@dannyzuehlsdorf3697]

Laird is a really cool and knowledgeable person. I like him

[@youtubularTV]

Thanks guys, I appreciate your contributions. Keep it up - if you want ;)

[@thepaddycaddy]

amazing!

[@emilybarry9410]

Been waiting for this since Gabby!!! 🙏🤍 😊

[@jl.c.8673]

It's been a while since I've watched one of Rich's podcasts. I like the YT idea of doing these. Rogan had a great thing going. Good one, like the new studio.

[@AriaZoner]

38:25 Well said Rich. Great interview!

[@ultrarunner_bro]

Anyone sipping on Laird turmeric coffee and agreeing with everything Laird and Rich are saying? 😆 🤣 😂

[@plutoplatters]

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah...baaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh...baaaaa o yes... they sure are !

[@kirstenshindler7767]

I like the cacao creamer! ☕️

[@oldpelican5181]

Awesome interview! Great job RR.

[@stevejudson8815]

Great stuff guys. Thank you

[@dustingaersmith8999]

Great stuff laird….art and expression!

[@mary-anncarleton7578]

We need elders more than ever right now !!!!

[@artgrusensky121]

best interview with Laird...deep like the...

[@RobCGilliam]

Such great content sir.

[@tariqjuneja]

Awesome talk thanks!

[@johnrobinson5506]

Amazing Interview 🙏❤️

[@crissorellanam]

what a legend

[@retribution999]

Great interview. I wish I had Laird's life.

[@garysnow1475]

I've been a fan of laired for about a year now. I'm 64 and I'm not a surfer but I love his outlook on life so why not do it anyway screw age. I don't mean surfing I mean everything.

[@retribution999]

@@garysnow1475 I totally agree. I not much younger but very fit and healthy. Age is just a number, it's health and mindset which are all important.

[@samuelghioto7622]

What a podcast

[@ReplayActionSports]

Thanks for this..☀️🤙

[@diego3919]

Amazing interview

[@scottwyckoff5483]

Blessings for sure we are nature

[@Justaride-Snowboard-Channel]

Great episode!! Thanks guys! Interesting that Laird's kids are not so much into the workouts and such. Your children bring into your life the parts of you, you don't like about yourself. The more extreme your trait, the wilder this may turn out to be. Maybe you don't let yourself rest or be lazy enough, Laird, and that is what they bring into your life - for balance! The 'devil child' is mostly the true angel for a parent when perceived from the right angle.

[@petebarber6778]

Thankyou

[@FunLovingAnimals]

Love Laird's humility and sense of adventure. Also his relationship with Don Wildman was inspiring.

[@MurphyDesign]

Pure class. Wisdom needs space free of uhhhh huhhhhh, Right?