Land Rover Has Impossible Leak! New 1234YF System!

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[@brucebaxter6923]

No uv torch?

[@williammckim4553]

Where’s part two

[@bgdaddy42069]

that because that is a ford and its garbage i do autobody trust you dont wanna take them a part everything is cheap as fuck all the high end car i have work on makes me never want one. if people only knew the trash they buy and how car company just make car as cheap as they can it sad

[@julesviolin]

Very rare in our experience for service valves to leak. If they don't leak leave alone is our motto. OEM valves are better quality than aftermarket anyway.

[@Clodhopping]

Land Rovers are really comfortable places to sit while waiting for a breakdown truck.

[@bartybollocks]

Hilarious! Never gets old. Of course if you bought a Jeep here in Oz you got a free trailer to carry all the bits that fell off.

[@mrow9999]

They never showed. I'm a live-in now. It's kind of hot because I can't work the electric windows...

[@frankgeeraerts6243]

That's reality ! ..............Men buy this luxury shit to please their spouse .........

[@charlesdale1462]

In a proper Land Rover you'd fix the air con by removing the canvas roof

[@johncunningham4820]

Hahahaha . Absolutely CORRECT .

[@jimsmith4610]

Two front flaps

[@ellerosse5471]

@@jimsmith4610 With Dust in your eyes when opening them.

[@D45VR]

These modern behemoths are over engineered and sissified. I have an '89 Land Cruiser which I do love but I would prefer the simpler FJ60 with roll-up windows etc...

[@evilkidd174]

Oooooh our brave hero has gotten a Land Rover to repair. We are now officially in fancy man territory. Top hat jacket with tie and cane are required now. Pinky extended when sipping your tea Raymond, I say dignity and manners.

[@yupimbackk]

Land Rover fancy man territory. NOT... Money pit territory.

[@BOTmaster15]

@@yupimbackk Indian owned brand with British assembly quality and Ford and BMW parts here and there. What can go wrong I'm asking ;)

[@Monkeh616]

@@BOTmaster15 Hey man, our stuff is good enough to win the world's biggest air war and land on Mars, it ain't all bad.

[@donaldsmartt8532]

@@Monkeh616 you mean the one that "landed" at 200mph? That one?

[@Monkeh616]

@@donaldsmartt8532 Yeah, okay Beagle didn't work - but Perseverance did. Beagle did land, though, it's in one piece.. the landing failures weren't us.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Atleast the customer was Thankful for the Diagnosis of the compressor shaft leak even though there going to enjoy there vacation and have there mechanic do the job when they get home @Rainman Ray's Repairs

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Oh They did decide to change there mind and have you Fix It Sweet @Rainman Ray's Repairs

[@walttrotter535]

2 things I always recommend to younger mechanics. Don't wear jewelry use those silcone wedding rings, the other is never ever lock yourself out of a customers car. Leave a window open.

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

I had an electronics teacher in high school that was missing part of his finger from arcing his wedding ring across live electricity. Sound advice on the silicone rings.

[@MrWoodyBalto]

Step 1 when working on a customer car, put down the drivers side window.

[@larrykeenan598]

I shorted out a 24-volt nurses call system at a nursing home with a gold wedding band. It burned a strip completely around my finger and I burned another finger and my thumb while getting it off. Stopped wearing it that day while at work.

[@garyh.7282]

Corvette towed with bad battery ( garage queen} windows open, removed old battery install new as soon as neg cable was connected aftermarket alarm closed both windows and locked both doors. I won though it was a rag top with the top down, after that I pulled key an put in the drivers door lock .

[@actually5004]

A $15 air wedge kit is cheaper than paying for even a single customer whose window gets left down.

[@Ramen10420]

11:33 never thought I'd hear him say the technician's favorite word.

[@ftblplar]

Right?! Hey Ray, FAMILY CHANNEL!!! lol

[@bmw320i2]

Cut him some slack, its a f@#$%&÷n Land Rover!

[@klaush.6662]

OK Ray: I heart that,: You shouted the politicians "F" word, all the way from Florida to Vancouver, Canada. THX. Klaus. a. Canuck

[@paulaschenbrener8321]

I AM a LR tech, a couple tips I can give that would have helped you get better results from your leak detector. First off, I ALWAYS remove the lower engine cover. Allows me to see and put hands ON the compressor and lines. Second, On passenger side of vehicle you can remove the cabin air filter. That allows you to probe (carefully) the top side of EVAP. While your there you can peal back the carpet for access to the drain tube to probe carefully the bottom side of evap. It is also interesting to note that LR's ALWAYS seem to leak from EVAP, Condenser or the service valves. Compressors also leak but NOT as often. They usually internally self destruct. That tiny side panel inside the wheel well is useful but not fun and difficult to remove. Its better from the bottom of engine.

[@heatherbobbitt3783]

i have leared so much from this channel

[@litz13]

I do believe that's one of (if not the) first times I've heard Ray actually cuss on-video. And it took a Land Rover to pull it out of him ..... 🤣

[@jeffjames4064]

Land rover... One of the finest cars ever to sit in when you break down on the road.

[@ThePhoenix198]

Wouldn't know, never experienced that despite ten years of ownership of Freelander 2s and a Disco Sport.

[@JetFire9]

Our 2014 RRS is a winner.

[@DJ454]

firt time ever... the phone rings and im "doo doodle doo" ing and Ray keeps on talking.. also Ray drops an F bomb... never heard Ray ever get irratated. hes such a happy guy- keeps me back in his channel

[@Uncle-Duncan-Shack]

Thanks to you I was able to find the leak on my truck today, I reckon. After recharging it today and driving the truck a bit I left it till dark. Then went out with a UV light after sunset and had a look. Sure enough, the low side schrader is leaking. So pleased that I do not have to pull the evaporator, although I have to seal up a crack in the pan as it froze due to a clogged drain. But it is doable. Kind regards, South Africa

[@ozmacguyver]

Hahahaa, that refrigerant detection device reminds me of the sniffer machine Ritchie Ritch's Dad used!!

[@jamesoverholt878]

One of my favorite calls on car talk was someone trying to decide whether to get their kid a land rover or another car. I can't remember the other car but it was a honda civic or something. To settle the matter, one of the host calls his son and asks, would you rather have a land rover or a civic. The kid immediately says land rover. The host then says, by the way, you'll be responsible for paying for maintenance. The kid immediately changed his answer to the civic.

[@roostersideburns3440]

these are legendary for unreliability.. but i suppose id lease one if i were forced

[@572Btriode]

Land Rover - Proudly turning owners into mechanics for 65 years. They are though, very suitable for HM Queen Elizabeth II, she has several. When one breaks, LR rush round within the hour with another new one, apologise profusely and remove the offending vehicle. There is no charge.

[@jamesoverholt878]

@@572Btriode I thought there was no charge only on the electric models

[@jonathanchung2384]

I think it was on a car wizard video

[@grumpycarlsworld]

I've found as often as not, compressor seals tend to leak when the vehicle sits for a few months, but when the system is run again, they seal themselves up. We find dye but no current leak, system is deficient due to the loss while sitting unused.

[@ahmadghosheh3104]

Respect my man. You actually put the plastic covers on with the clips and everything. Other would have just skipped it. You can't believe how many cars I see missing those plastic covers.

[@SuperDirk1965]

Why do all cars have two bonnets nowadays?

[@robertbell525]

From personal experience, the vacuum test does not always detect a leak. The vacuum can suck things down tighter and hold just fine. But pressurize the system and those same seals will leak.

[@sampsani]

thats why we use a nitrogen bottle to find leaks. pressurize the system with nitrogen and use soapy water to find the leak.

[@tonyhallen1062]

you can buy an endoscope (small camera on a flex cable) for less than $20 that will let you inspect places that you cannot see with your eyes. The cheap ones plug into a standard usb port on computers, expensive ones (~$60 - $500+) come with their own screens. It helps with finding dropped screws, oil and other leaks, etc.

[@patsquach4080]

I have mentioned the same thing …. Endoscopes …VERY. HANDY ..

[@blumobean]

When my oldest grandson was about 5 years old we would go over to my nephew's shop. The shop was mostly high line imports. My grandson could tell you what was wrong with a Land Rover. He would point to the grill and say it's written right here. The strangest problem I ever saw on a Land Rover was loose cylinder liners. Cold the engine ran fine, but as soon as the engine got a little warm the liners were hitting the head.

[@sandyman541]

Don't ya just love how loooooong it takes for the 1234yf machines to go through a charging process?

[@actually5004]

It's even more amazing when your tech hooks it up to a ratty twice-stolen dodge before sniffing the system properly and finds out the hard way what happens to a $15k 1234yf machine that's been fed a mixture of r12 and olive oil.

[@heyitschinoable]

@@actually5004 OUCH!!

[@rotor13]

@@actually5004 What in the actual?

[@supertec2023]

wait till you see how many times its needs to be repair for service. In our shop if it can make it 2 months without needing to be sent out its a miracle

[@matthewmorrone883]

They are junk. Kill flat rate

[@eaglerider1826]

Ray , just a tip . Take a small piece of red cloth and attach it to the end of your thermometer with a rubber band so you don't leave it in the car again .

[@emielkooij1698]

A "remove before flight" tag

[@eaglerider1826]

@@emielkooij1698 Ray did say he's left more that one in a car .

[@robertbell525]

Years ago I got a free forgotten thermometer from the dealer. Still using it.

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

Maybe the manufacturer should make them safety green in color.

[@michaeltutty1540]

Really well done work, Ray. I suspect your customers realized they had found a good, honest mechanic who is to be trusted, and better to get it fixed than risk total failure of the rest of the system on their fancy BMW. I have what you may think of as the exception to your rule about European Cars. There is little in the world that could be easier than my 1990 Volvo 240DL wagon. As long as you do not need to touch the hater blower or heater core, they are the simplest of cars. Timing belt, tensioner, water pump, and all 3 front seals can be done in less than 2 hours, start to finish. I have to admit that the 17 litres of brake fluid to flush the lines is a bit much, but not difficult.

[@gazzthered5659]

I'm from Scotland watching and the best tool i could give you for repairing landys,is what we call in the trade the hot stick (burner)or just use a zippo in the tank,landys are a pain to work on full stop,,, Lol hope you enjoyed yourself,,,,

[@gilesk]

There is something weirdly compelling about your videos, I am In North Wales and am not a mechanic but for some reason I have watched your last 10 videos, the world is a strange place.

[@generessler6282]

Haha. Great video. Lots of terrific stuff here. And I lol frequently at your excellent humor. "Because gravity" always gets me. And the "click"s are priceless. Really a great hack to help your memory track what you've torqued and not. "Because European" was a bit off though. The Brits have had a whole thing over the past few years about _not_ being European 😀

[@martinnaylor5461]

Don’t forget the pink gins on the patio and posh voice 🤣

[@dennisduran8500]

No AC.. I remember as a kid on vacation with my parents driving through the Mojave desert in our new 1965 Cadillac Calais. that did not come with AC. FUN!

[@bgdaddy42069]

omg when you dropped it and was like i hope it hits the ground is so true i day the dame shit when i drop clip when taking car a part lol

[@georgiahoosier]

I've been watching these great videos for a couple of months and thought I was subscribed. But I wasn't. That's been rectified. Keep up the good work, it's fun watching someone else get the skinned knuckles while I'm taking a break from my own auto adventures!

[@zippo3300]

you are a good man to help and go up and beyond to get the job done

[@gregoryfairchild2460]

Tip: When checking vent temps put the blower on one step above the lowest speed. The more time it takes air to pass thru the evaporator the colder the air. I have gotten 28° f in some vehicles after service. Always check for leaks at the moisture drain under the hood at the evaporator. Remember refrigerant falls, check under lines & under compressors.

[@82_KID]

4:10 Rainman you are a funny guy, I gets down with your channel and humor lol. If I ever make it to Florida, I gotta bring you my car!! We can always find SOMETHING that needs to be done.. i'm thinking shocks. :)

[@reggieos6945]

I'm a simple man I see a upload I hit the like button

[@luismarty1685]

You are a prolific You Tuber. Thanks for all of the videos sir. Happy holidays.

[@2theslasher]

Man u will get 50,000 subs real soon,the contents brill.

[@psinclairjr]

Land Rover is Latin for "expensive parts"

[@waynecartwright9478]

it's not latin it's chinese

[@cayman9873]

It means wear comfy shoes in case your walking a long way

[@ThePhoenix198]

@@cayman9873 Owned and used Freelander 2s and a Disco Sport for the past ten years. Never had a problem with them that required me to walk, let alone walk a long way.

[@matthews8576]

Amazing! You hardly swore at all.

[@barriewhiteley1692]

You are very brave to work on any landrover

[@ahoytheremate1954]

Ray the series 2 land rover was used in the Australian army they were bullet proof as in really good and would get you through anything even towing a half ton trailer i love the old land rovers they just keep going and i own1

[@ianriggs]

Now I catch myself going "click" every time I tighten something. Thanks lol

[@MichaelStephenson51]

11:29 Ray said a dirty word LOL

[@pdmark311]

If the system has a rear seat heating and cooling system you need to run it as well . The solenoids that run that part of the system can hide a leak of you don't run it.

[@spider_hoss]

It always helps to have the right tools.

[@davidclarke8000]

I have never had a problem with land rovers, not one has left me at the side of the road. I drive a Subaru Outback made in Japan.

[@Arnthorg]

That's the problem with using vacuum for leak testing, seals can hold in one direction and leak in the other, also it's just around 14-15 psi at perfect vacuum

[@Monkeh616]

Yep, the best way is to nitrogen fill to maximum operating pressure and let it sit. However, that means having a nice big high pressure nitrogen bottle around, and the stuff doesn't come for free.

[@Crack84baby]

Just had my ac recharged after being at a different shop... They did a vacuum, then a pressure test exactly for that reason.

[@actually5004]

@@Crack84baby The pressure test you got was to verify operating pressures which won't tell a tech if it's leaking slowly because the duty cycle on the compressor will increase until the desired pressure is met regardless if it's leaking. AC service rigs are only built to leak test with a vacuum, the pump in the machine can't generate anywhere near enough positive pressure to adequately leak test at the pressure the system normally runs at and still measure leaks. Besides that, the other function of the vacuum leak test is to evaporate and evacuate any water in the system- water will get into the PAG oil and ruin an AC system faster then any leaky O-ring.

[@Crack84baby]

@@actually5004 well actually... No. There is a back story i didn't tell because... Tldr. Forst shop lied and said it was leaking when it wasn't. So they put 19bar on the system and checked after several hours to see if it indeed still held high pressure. Of course after a vacuum test for the same purpose. The system was working before first shop but with a reduced capacity. I asked them to charge it. But they fucked up more stuff so i no longer trust them . I'd do it myself but I do not have a set of gages and in Germany they are really expensive. So yeah.

[@jman0870]

@@Monkeh616 wrong. Leaks at gaskets and o rings can leak at lower pressures but seal at higher pressures. The best way to leak check is to do standing pressure tests at varying pressures, high, medium, and low.

[@samiraperi467]

Green around the shaft, just like Hulk.

[@jamesmacdonald8375]

Yes adjusting the valves on a c hoses that is correct works well

[@chapinsolitario1980]

Morning everyone… have a great Sunday!!!

[@vid2ification]

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[@Viva-Cristo-Rey-]

One of my friends accidently leaked a tiny amount of cooling gas in his face. He had absolute liquid shits the next few days haha.

[@titaniumman_22]

No arrow, but ya gave us the finger 12:58! 😁

[@cJ-cr8gp]

You have such a vast knowledge and wealth of experience it amazes me. You have a lot of patience also and I’ve learned that I could never do your job ever! I get so frustrated following your lengthy and tricky investigations. I wonder if you’d be happier doing my job? Air traffic control..

[@kurtb3606]

The effort you undertake for your audience to see what your doing is stellar! Awesome job!

[@robertl.3074]

My wife and I have owned 4 Land Rover/range rover products. The last one being a 2020 Range Rover sport. They are beautiful cars, but Be sure to purchase the onboard mechanic option. Our Land Rover‘s were usually garage queens, and I’m not talking about our garage. I’m pretty sure the service manager drove our Land Rovers more than we did. We finally opted out, and purchased a 2021 BMW X5 (I know), But at least we’ve driven it more than the mechanics. Great videos great shows keep up the great work, and remember, have a great day.

[@wernerdanler2742]

I had the same problem with an Audi A6. Traded it for a 530i.

[@actually5004]

That's why people with both money and sense just lease theirs.

[@waynecartwright9478]

Very very rare.....LR has a repurchase rate of 4% over the past 15 year.....most learn on the first purchase

[@luismarty1685]

BMW's suck after 100k miles. They quickly become money pits.

[@vw5056]

@Bones McGillicuddy what do you suggest he buys....a '97 Rav4?

[@jm100368]

I put a thermometer in my vents. It says "rare" what does that mean!??

[@wernerdanler2742]

Someone left a steak in there? Lol

[@actually5004]

It means you're not in Arizona.

[@gwrider2146]

@@actually5004 LOL!!

[@whatdoyouthinktodd]

You cursed I don't know how you go through these videos without cursing up a storm turning the air blue 💙

[@ronsmith9251]

15 year Euro car tech here, and I feel your pain. If there’s anything I hate working on more than Japanese cars, it’s Land Rovers.

[@kens97sto171]

I've never really found Japanese cars to be that difficult to work on? At least not the Toyota's I've owned. I currently drive a Prius and that car is actually easy to work on even the hybrid stuff's not really difficult. Virtually everything on the car is a 10-12 or 14 mm socket.

[@brianbickle7395]

A Land Rover giving trouble?? I’m shocked!!😀😀

[@SupremeRuleroftheWorld]

5:00 nice to see you torqing down properly. its the little details.

[@anthonyvon4531]

That stuff is flammable if I remember. Crazy.

[@waynecartwright9478]

true and a joke in general.....can be reverse retrofitted easily to 134

[@82_KID]

4:10 "That hole is your HOME! Are you too good for your home? ANSWER ME!" :)

[@OverlandOne]

Happy Gilmore reference. Nice.

[@rickcampbell1846]

I saw a similar video with a leak on this system and it was a seal in the compressor that was leaking internally and that is why it was not easy to find.

[@prevost8686]

Land Rover? My sympathies are with you.

[@Parastorm.]

I own one of these Land Rovers but over in the UK with the dreaded Diesel engine, almost every part that needs changing needs the body lifting off the chassis to access parts. I do all my own repairs and I can tell you they are a pain in the ass to work on and expensive.

[@tomf4547]

😂 A Land Rover made the Rainman swear 👌. Rule Britannia...

[@bmw320i2]

A Texan bragging to a Brit, "my ranch is so big it takes me two days to drive around it" Brit - "I hear you old boy, I had a Land Rover, too"

[@barrymayson2492]

You have to take the front wing off to get to compressor. Had one done a few years ago. They sent the wrong compressor it was for a Jaguar same compressor but different mount.

[@COM70]

Man you were so lucky to recover that valve.

[@yz250a]

Proper terminology for 11:30 Chingaletta. We use it all the time at GM.

[@supertec2023]

I have never worked on that type of car, I do work on Honda's and the YF1234a is a nighmare. I have replaced hundreds on parts over the last few years, I have replaced the compressors and evaporators on them. There is a SB on the condensor but in CA its rare. We add dye because the leaks are so slow. The gas i find will leak from the compressor seals and when you remove the evap you can see a dye has diffused through the metal. no cracks just all porous aluminum .

[@Jester-Riddle]

That sensor tool can't be much use if it is not detecting a visually apparent leak of refrigerant !!!

[@gwarlow]

@Stephen Ford Perhaps its purpose is to detect leaks missed after a thorough visual inspection?

[@mrnege81]

I always turn those valve screws 1/4 turn back when opening them. Our machine valves gets very tight othervise when temp changes.

[@wiiinston17]

I wonder how it passed both leak tests, especially with that smaller unit.

[@lamebubblesflysohigh]

But working on European cars is fun! You just have to disassemble half of them, then put everything back and you are done :D

[@rayzor285]

Honestly. Even a little sensor or something and you might as well pull the motor 😆

[@lesterparker1594]

Had someone argue on another video about how Jaguar is super reliable. Some people just never learn.

[@michaelf.2449]

@@lesterparker1594 people get confused it's more reliable than an older Jaguar but it's still not reliable lol people assume because it's better than the old model it's reliable.

[@chosipian]

love your videos

[@q80aziz]

Raise the Air suspension to make checking easier

[@robertkeefer1552]

That leak detector sounds like a heart monitor. ❤

[@supertec2023]

they are pretty useless in real world. most cars have such slow leaks it can take 6 months to lose 50% of the charge

[@brianmegagorgeous]

that was a cool job

[@davidmscott4409]

My Land Rover LR3 had a recall for the a/c compressor. Sad to see they still have issues.

[@matthewmorrone883]

Only your trick runs on R123a. 20$ a pound. Its close to 1000$ to refill a 1234YF vehicle.

[@davidmscott4409]

@@matthewmorrone883 I had no idea the difference, good to know. Thanks.

[@fowlerjohnston5228]

Had the same problem with my Dodge 2500...when you ran the AC, no leak, when it sat for a period of time or no AC use the front seal let loose with the refrigerant the clutch hid the dye....took forever to figure it out

[@BobbysAwake]

Vent valve actuators, I have 2 of them, it’s a ford 6cly or a BMW v8 with Toyota fuel and Emissions system, and air system from India

[@bobdavis3277]

EPA...a ton of prevention is worth an ounce of cure.

[@soccertl]

I saw green on the hose above the compressor. Could it have been antifreeze leaking onto the compressor?

[@44hawk28]

That refrigerant is also flammable. So be careful. There is reports of numerous engine fires in Europe since they started using that crap. Surprisingly, if you add about 10 to 12% of R134 to the 1234, and they will work together, the fire risk is greatly reduced

[@eaglerider1826]

Ray , just wondered why you don't use a tire valve stem tool to remove schrader valves . They have the arms to make it easier to loosen and tighten .

[@matthewmorrone883]

Tire scraeder valves are different from AC scraeder types. Tire valves are smaller. AC ones are larger and use a different tool. Hooe that helps.

[@ClaymateDesigner]

A pal of mine wore a stainless steel watch strap which he inadvertently managed to short out the starter solenoid and, because he left the car in gear (1st), because it was parked uphill, it proceeded to run over him before the strap broke. I mention this because someone posted a no jewellery tip. I used to work in broadcasting when glass tellies were the thing. We wore no metalwork because 25kv from a TV hurts. Love your videos.

[@matthews8576]

The first of many, many repairs you'll be doing to that Rover I'm sure.

[@johncunningham4820]

Restoring Full pressure back in the System , Could potentially seat the Seal properly again . No knowing for a few days on that .

[@blueroyal6291]

Dude The hardest day of my life changing a radiator on a range Rover 😑

[@Blaxjax21]

You replace the valve stem is that they are notorious for leaking when reusing the O-ring.

[@ShiftyEddie]

Hey Ray, where did you get your soldering iron? And whats your Amazon store link

[@beachsandinspector]

Range Rover used to be a British brand, now it is owned by an Indian company as far as I am aware.

[@dano336]

tata

[@mayorwrenchmcgnome]

Tata motors if India. The same company that owns jaguar andmakes the world's cheapest car the Tata nano and a heavy duty truck that has a wooden frame and a 145 hp engine.

[@waynecartwright9478]

Yes Tata bought them and their debt.....they in turn sold most of the stakes to a chinese company......LR is on a downhill roll.......absolute nightmares.....

[@roostersideburns3440]

id like one of those a/c thermometers

[@user0118]

Have you considered just putting a bit of silicone lube on the old Schrader valve o rings if they otherwise look intact? Thinking of ways to cut down your overhead.

[@mdmcolt]

Enjoyed

[@NeoMorphUK]

It’s not good when you have green around your shaft!

[@polloloci21]

Luckily my Land Rover is so old there’s no AC - just a fresh air flap. Haha🥺

[@mathuelee2686]

I do hvac for a living I never use my leak detector anymore because half the time I can never get it to go off even on a known leak

[@waynecartwright9478]

soap and water

[@FerdinandFake]

The sensors need frequent replacement and cost a fortune