What if Rengoku Fought Gyutaro & Daki Instead?

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Laraze HD

Жыл бұрын

In this video, I go over if kyojuro rengoku fought Gyutaro & Daki from Demon Slayer what would truly happen?
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@MysteryHashira
@MysteryHashira Жыл бұрын
Also keep in mind Gyutaro poison effects. Nobody has been shown to have resistance to poison besides Tengen and Inosuke. When Tanjiro got poisoned he instantly started choking. So Rengoku is stronger than Tengen I agree but enough to not get touched by Gyutaro or his blood demon art one time ? That’s highly unlikely in my opinion
@Theperfctlife
@Theperfctlife Жыл бұрын
Tengen is stronger than rengoku
@XxHarambexX
@XxHarambexX Жыл бұрын
@@Theperfctlife Debatable
@Biothermiac
@Biothermiac Жыл бұрын
@@XxHarambexX Yeah but if you gave all the hashira the same abilities as each other (mark, transparent world etc) then they'd all be very equal, just having different skills, advantages and disadvantages. Rengoku and Tengen are around the same strength because they were early on in the story before marks and everything were truly in effect.
@XxHarambexX
@XxHarambexX Жыл бұрын
@@Biothermiac That is… not true. Rengoku and Uzui were similar strength, which is why I said it was debatable. But a theoretical marked Uzui or Rengoku vs Marked Himejima or Shinazugawa? No, the hashira would not be the same strength
@Biothermiac
@Biothermiac Жыл бұрын
@@XxHarambexX I mean I haven't read the manga so ofc I'm gonna be very inaccurate but uzui with musical score and slayer's mark would be basically immune to projectiles and also insane in close ranges and since we haven't seen their entire arsenals, they could have some trump cards up their sleeves in terms of breathing styles
@sammehxd5734
@sammehxd5734 Жыл бұрын
I got a small debate about this. I think Rengoku would be very good at the start, however once the poison hits him, He will start losing very quickly. He doesnt have resistence like Tengen so it would severely hurt him. Also even though Kyojuro is very fast, Tengen is shown to be faster. I think Tengen was the best person for this job except Gyomei. This is because of his Biq and his strength and breathing style and speed, all beating Rengoku.
@obash124genious2
@obash124genious2 Жыл бұрын
Tanjiro could not even see rengoku and akaza fight and i do know that he did train afterward but he just leapt into gyutaro and tengen`s fight.
@illumination_0109
@illumination_0109 Жыл бұрын
If Tanjiro can manage with the poison as well I don't see how Rengoku can't that poison argument is alittle flawed, Tanjiro at district and Rengoku combo wouldve been quite a explosive one due to the breathing style too, we haven't consider Tengen's wives yet if they were there to help with the Wisteria weakening Rengoku would prolly have a easier time
@noelseno3767
@noelseno3767 Жыл бұрын
@@illumination_0109 Tanjiro did not cope with the poison at all, he only got hit by the sickles once during that fight and it only took a few minutes for it to kick in. He would’ve died if it wasn’t for Nezuko, Tengen was hit at the very start and kept getting hit throughout but was still able to move through the entirety of it, I doubt Rengoku would’ve been able to hold off the effects to the same degree Tengen did. The only outlier here is Inosuke, to be honest I don’t know how he managed to survive as long as he did without the same level of poison resistance. Though to be fair he was on the verge of death in the aftermath from the poison, arguably more so than Tanjiro and Tengen
@a_randomuser4
@a_randomuser4 Жыл бұрын
@@obash124genious2, because Tanjiro got stronger during that time.
@obash124genious2
@obash124genious2 Жыл бұрын
@@a_randomuser4 do you think tanjiro at this stronger state could have just leapt in to rengoku and akaza`s fight. NO! Akaza is just way faster than gyutaro and so is rengoku compared to tengen. Tengen and Gyutaro`s fight was a fight btw the weakest uppermoon and the (2nd)weakest hashira while the fight btw Akaza and Rengoku was fought with one of the strongest hashira and uppermoon, There is a huge difference btw these two fights.
@hanzohasashi1857
@hanzohasashi1857 Жыл бұрын
Remember that in under a minute Akaza was able to blind one of Rengokus eyes and break his ribs/ cause internal damage. So i would say in the beginning he was going 30% against Kyojuro and slowly increased his effort until he had gotten his arm stuck in Rengoku. Afterwards he was trying a lot harder to escape because Rengoku used his stomach muscles to trap him.
@strangecosmicsubstance
@strangecosmicsubstance Жыл бұрын
30% akaza could wipe the floor with gyutaro and daki- and probably even hantengu, definitely gyokko-
@hanzohasashi1857
@hanzohasashi1857 Жыл бұрын
@@strangecosmicsubstance True i'm just pointing out that if Akaza was going 60-70% or mostly serious that Rengoku would have been dead much sooner.
@Khaled68335
@Khaled68335 Жыл бұрын
Akaza is significantly stronger than both the siblings. So it’s not a good comparison though.
@hanzohasashi1857
@hanzohasashi1857 Жыл бұрын
@@Khaled68335 Yup considering that Gyutaro was still pinned down by a one handed, poisoned, and exhausted Tengen. While Akaza was giving marked Giyu/Tanjiro the fight of their lives. But i still disagree with the video because Tengens techniques and poison resistance made him the better match against Gyutaro compared to Rengoku who has no resistance and mainly has singular offensive attacks which would struggle against tracking blood slashes while having Gyutaro to deal with at the same time.
@Khaled68335
@Khaled68335 Жыл бұрын
@@hanzohasashi1857 yeah, that’s True. Rengoku will get beaten and die easily. Mainly because he doesn’t have poison resistance. Like tengen did. Plus I don’t think Rengoku is fast enough to cut both of the siblings head together. Cause that what will it take to defeat them. But even still without Daki. He is losing in 1vs1 against gyutaro. Not only because of the poison. But gyutaro has shown impressive feats and is extremely powerful in his own right. And also, Akaza will have easily killed both a marked Tanjiro and Giyu. but he instead he choose to blow himself up and kill himself after remembering his memories
@tyrewillis9841
@tyrewillis9841 Жыл бұрын
Everyone plays a numbers game with these match ups. he fought uper 3 so in most people's minds that means he can just defeat enyone lower then that. When in reality it's more of a rock paper scissors match. rengoku would die from the poison at the start of the match just like the other hashira that fought upper 6. Tangen could only fight because he had poison resistance.
@jordanbutlig5160
@jordanbutlig5160 Жыл бұрын
true
@obash124genious2
@obash124genious2 Жыл бұрын
why then do you think gyutaro is the lowest ranked uppermoon? because every other uppermoon is better than him speedwise, in battle instict, battle style, battle exp and maybe in hashira deaths. I think rengoku being able to hold his own and even scare akaza in the end versus tengen being helped by tanjiro and the others and dying (ignoring nezuko`s healing) isn`t even a match.
@tyrewillis9841
@tyrewillis9841 Жыл бұрын
@@obash124genious2 did you read my comment?😂🤦‍♂️
@steezyybrah9745
@steezyybrah9745 Жыл бұрын
​@@obash124genious2 Akaza was holding back against Rengoku majority of the fight, literally just casually engaging in the fight and not concerned at all of what was being thrown his way. he was more interested in converting Rengoku into a demon instead. And even when Rengoku used his ultimate ability, Akaza acknowledges his power but his only real worry in that fight was the sun rising.
@dwill7709
@dwill7709 Жыл бұрын
@@obash124genious2 maybe you should go back and read or watch the anime when Muzan himself said Gyutaro was ranked that low because of Daki was holding him back. not his fighting ability
@michaelmsipha5997
@michaelmsipha5997 Жыл бұрын
Comment section need to realise Gyutaro is only upper rank 6 because his poision has no effect on demons. In reality, he is the most dangerous to the hashira because one hit equals death and even brining up nezuko is not valid as she was only able to save tengen because of his poison resistance which he built up all his life. The feats we got from tengen were all poisoned nerfed feats, I don't see any hashira winning against gyutaro and daki alone especially if they're seperated. Gyutaro may be weak against the other demons but against humans he's the scariest upper moon to fight
@obash124genious2
@obash124genious2 Жыл бұрын
well if he`s the scariest, what abt kokushibo. The poison isn`t the only setback for him speed,battle style, battle intinct and just skill are all the things that put him as the weakest uppermoon. And if shinobi went against him his one trick pony would have been slain and he would die with a taste of his own medicine.
@Himothy_of_anime
@Himothy_of_anime Жыл бұрын
​@@obash124genious2 Clam down bud. Even Muzan said if Gyutaro hadn't needed to protect his sister so much he would have been a higher rank Demon. How high? Idk, but the fact that he wasn't even struggling with Tengen while only using one of his eye's and still protecting Daki show how strong he is. He also give Daki 7 Hashira so she can get stronger, if he had eaten them then no question he is bodying Every Hashira 1v1. Also the fact that he is the youngest Upper moon, while having to share half his strength with Daki, shows how strong of a demon he is.
@obash124genious2
@obash124genious2 Жыл бұрын
@@Himothy_of_anime Muzan speculated and said alot of things. His words don`t mean a thing. I doubt that Gyutaro would win single handedly anyway.
@senntai
@senntai Жыл бұрын
I don't think he's the scariest. Upper 1 and 2 are much scarier and they could even easily take on multiple hashiras But yeah rengoku would've lost pretty much instantly vs Gyutaro. The only way I see him winning is if he goes all out from the get go with his 9th form.
@ks-ok1oc
@ks-ok1oc Жыл бұрын
Nah man u are wrong. He is not as strong as kokushibo Or doma 😂😂. And gyomei / sanemi will win in 1v1 against him.
@OnurTheXbot
@OnurTheXbot Жыл бұрын
Rengoku would die to the poison, any other Hashira would’ve died to poison since they aren’t immune to it like Tengen. I don’t think Nezuko could save Rengoatku.
@samham3209
@samham3209 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to think shinobu can survive because of her knowledge in medicine and wisteria in her blood stream
@UCantKetchup2Me
@UCantKetchup2Me Жыл бұрын
​@Sam Ham by the end of the story she has so much of the posion in her she let herself be eaten by Doma to "defeat" him. So it would only be suicide.
@dark-winged-angel136
@dark-winged-angel136 Жыл бұрын
@@samham3209 Rengoku would be dead minutes after the poisoning
@samham3209
@samham3209 Жыл бұрын
@@dark-winged-angel136 I said shinobu
@illumination_0109
@illumination_0109 Жыл бұрын
This poison argument is pretty flawed, we know breathing technique can slow down poison, Tanjiro himself was surviving those poison so a good while. I don't see how Rengoku can't survive long enough to take out Gyutaro, the only thing is whether Zen and Inosuke can take out Daki fast enough
@playerone3885
@playerone3885 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I see Uzui getting underrated a lot. So first of all, we have to differentiate end of series power levels vs during entertainment district arc. When a Sun breather unleashes the mark, it allows other demon slayers to as well, giving the likes of Iguro, Tokito etc unfair advantages over Rengoku and Tengen. Not to mention training arc where Sanemi took it more seriously than anyone else. Tengen was probably the 2nd strongest pillar at the time of fighting UM6. The author went out of their way to include an arm wrestling ranking, where gyomei was in a league of his own, Tengen was the next tier down an besides Shinobu and Iguro being the weakest, the others were interchangeable. Now, armwresting hardly dictates who’s a better fighter in the real world, but this is a manga where nothing is more important and more true than the author’s intention. Add that to the fact that the manga goes out of its way to tell us Tengen’s poison resistance was important, Uzui was probably the best Hashira for the situation, as we don’t know how Gyomei would react to um6’s poison.
@obash124genious2
@obash124genious2 Жыл бұрын
he wouldn`t need to.
@claytonrichardson3201
@claytonrichardson3201 Жыл бұрын
100%. I can’t believe all these KZbinrs that have literally no idea what they’re talking about
@warden1775
@warden1775 Жыл бұрын
its so simple, all hashira will die if they dont know about the UP6 blood demon art.
@ellomate2006
@ellomate2006 Жыл бұрын
He’s not getting underrated he’s just weaker he’s stated as weaker then rengoku he said that himself
@goodbye6676
@goodbye6676 Жыл бұрын
Tengen acted like he was unconscious but he was actually slowing the poison and preparing the musical score technique
@prayashgurung9320
@prayashgurung9320 Жыл бұрын
acted sure but he literally stopped his heart
@AraAra_TellingTheTruth
@AraAra_TellingTheTruth Жыл бұрын
@Prayash Gurung yup he was desperate bro can't argue with that, and if that was hes plan, that would be dumb as fuck ngl. he risked it all on a 1 in a million chance that the other would have survived. cause he can't fight the upper 6 alone
@prayashgurung9320
@prayashgurung9320 Жыл бұрын
@@AraAra_TellingTheTruth plot armor i say
@sammehxd5734
@sammehxd5734 Жыл бұрын
@@AraAra_TellingTheTruth Jotaro stopped his heart, now tell me whats up
@Meliodas-uv1tp
@Meliodas-uv1tp Жыл бұрын
@@AraAra_TellingTheTruth lol gyutaro isn’t an upper moon. Daki is the upper moon. Gyutaro>hantengu
@zachg8284
@zachg8284 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think Tengen being the one in this fight was the best outcome out of all the pillars (pre mark). Everyone else is wraps purely because of the poison (we saw how insane the poison was without any immunity ie: Tanjiro through the jaw, that man saw god literal seconds after getting stabbed). Tengen is stated as the fastest hashira and second strongest physically and STILL got tagged by gyutaros slashes multiple times 1v1, not to mention his unorthodox fighting style which is hard asf to read. For any of the other hashira that don’t have immunity it’s practically a one shot especially if they are unsuspecting of it. Based off pure logic, the other hashira aren’t dodging his attacks if the fastest one of them all can’t…. uzui = incredibly underrated.
@shreygirdhar9923
@shreygirdhar9923 Жыл бұрын
Uzui also has insane reflexes and reaction speed. He was able to dodge daki's belts while fighting gyutaro.
@om9959
@om9959 4 ай бұрын
Muichiro one shot gyokko who also has poison and way stronger than gyotaro.Any End game hashira claps the fodder in base.
@articaXO
@articaXO 2 ай бұрын
Tengen is the fastest in RUNNING speed, gyutaros poisons will effect rengoku but not as much as u think, muichiro isn't known to be resistant to poison but he was stabbed multiple times by poisonous needles and still kept fighting, rengoku being older/stronger he can definitely hold off for a while but he would still need the help of tanjiro
@therevanchist2888
@therevanchist2888 Жыл бұрын
The poison puts the rest of the Hashira out of commission it had to be Tengen for this fight
@channerrerrie3806
@channerrerrie3806 Жыл бұрын
Cap. Various panels in the manga, the databooks and light novels all prove that Tengen is superior to Rengoku in every way. Tengen was poisoned and very weak in that fight and still managed to be equal to Gyutaro. Tengen even stated that they wouldn't have been in that situation if he wasn't poisoned. Kyojuro is getting 1 shotted.
@donbobby1608
@donbobby1608 Жыл бұрын
Watch the anime well after episode 9 ended tengen call rengoku and told him that if he was him he would have handled it well that was should he do So bro tengen look up too rengoku not the other way around
@channerrerrie3806
@channerrerrie3806 Жыл бұрын
@@donbobby1608 He didnt say that. Tengen said, "how would you fight". He was referring to how he protects people and is so selfless unlike Tengen. He was not talking about strength.
@donbobby1608
@donbobby1608 Жыл бұрын
@@channerrerrie3806 watch again bro he said rengoku how can I handle this I don't think I can handle it like you Rengoku.its ok to handle things a little different your sword skills are elegant but you have many wife hahaha that's what he said the author is trying too tell us that uzui looks up too rengoku this was why uzui thought of him
@channerrerrie3806
@channerrerrie3806 Жыл бұрын
@@donbobby1608 Yes, he was saying that Uzi looks up to him. Actually it was said that most of the hashira and his students do. But it never said anything about him being stronger.
@donbobby1608
@donbobby1608 Жыл бұрын
@@channerrerrie3806 they look up too him because he is stronger
@Rexchuck9968
@Rexchuck9968 Жыл бұрын
cap man this is cap sorry I would be clear Rengoku loses in almost every senario you imagine for one reason. POISON. Rengoku never shows to be resistant at poison and won't be fast engough to neither take down gyutaro quickly or dodging some attacks. ANd i don't think he would be able to protect tanjiro. To be clear you were overrated him
@TotallyNotPrince202
@TotallyNotPrince202 Жыл бұрын
love your vids
@pogpalaresthedude9581
@pogpalaresthedude9581 Жыл бұрын
Wagwan! Another banger video I see.
@HeroSenseiKid
@HeroSenseiKid Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@damariperkins8692
@damariperkins8692 Жыл бұрын
In the same scenario right? Tanjiro is trying to get Nezuko under control, rengoku gets there in time to slice Dakis head, gyutaro comes out, rengoku reacts immediately gets poisoned… Finish it pls!!
@firstnoob3811
@firstnoob3811 Жыл бұрын
ur underrating gyutaro there is no way a hashira one on one can beat an upper moon
@dark-winged-angel136
@dark-winged-angel136 Жыл бұрын
Even Muichiro couldn't accomplish his feat against upper moon 5 if he didn't get plot armor at the end
@hilariouschip7590
@hilariouschip7590 7 ай бұрын
Love this vid
@RustyShaft
@RustyShaft Жыл бұрын
The anime overextended the Akaza v Rengoku fight for entertainment purposes, in the manga he gets absolutely annihilated in 4 pages. Not to mention Akaza wasn't even trying, didn't use a fraction of his BDA and gave Rengoku every opportunity to become a demon to the point he sat there with his arm in Rengokus solar plexus and allowed himself to be put in danger. There's not much argument for Rengoku being stronger, Tengen is more experienced, the better swordsman, faster, stronger, better IQ, faster technique, has poison resistance, musical score technique.
@jlopez0710
@jlopez0710 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Other people commented that the homie Rengoku had the fight won. Akaza played with him the entire fight.
@TheKiddGamer
@TheKiddGamer Жыл бұрын
Rengoku gave Akaza a run for his money?!?! Man stop Akaza was laughing to the bank! Akaza didn't take Rengoku seriously in the slightest man... Sound Hashira has got what it takes to be better than Rengoku Legit tell me what Rengoku did that Tengen wouldn't have been able to do on the mugen train? They both would've died btw
@rimnatural4769
@rimnatural4769 Жыл бұрын
Nah still suppressed akaza>>>>> gyutaro so rengoku is stronger
@TheKiddGamer
@TheKiddGamer Жыл бұрын
@Rim Natural Akaza being stronger than Gyutarro doesn't mean Rengoku is stronger than Uzui... Rengoku didn't hold his own, Akaza liked him so he extended the fight. You're delusional if you think Akaza wouldn't have folded Rengoku in 2 seconds if he didn't like him. What did Rengoku do on that Mugen train that Uzui couldn't have done? It had to be something Rengoku stans praise him as if he's the second strongest Hashira
@illumination_0109
@illumination_0109 Жыл бұрын
Breathing Technique alone Rengoku has the better one, the story had mentioned many times that not everyone can use a certain breathing style due to strength and compatibility. So many of the other breathing alters their style to fit them more, knowing Flame is derived from Sun Breathing alr makes flame way more potent than Sound which was another alteration from Thunder. We've seen how strong a breathing technique the closer they are to Sun Breathing, that alone i feel justifies Rengoku being stronger
@pizzinity2689
@pizzinity2689 Жыл бұрын
@@illumination_0109 although you most likely are right about his technique being better, it also heavily depends on the user of the style. you can have sun breathing yet still be weak, rengoku doesn’t win just because of his breathing style (although it looks so cool)
@illumination_0109
@illumination_0109 Жыл бұрын
​@@pizzinity2689 We are talking bout Hashiras here, pillars who have most likely honed their craft to utmost perfection, so I didn't take into account the possible weaknesses. Since this was Hashira compared with another Hashira
@Meliodas-uv1tp
@Meliodas-uv1tp Жыл бұрын
He would kill Daki without much effort just like tengen but gyutaro is taking him out pretty quickly
@Neoghost00
@Neoghost00 10 ай бұрын
I see a lot of others saying the same thing that comes to mind: Rengoku is not resistant to poison like Tengen. I think you're really missing the fact that while you put Rengoku ahead with power and abilities... you're not taking into account that Rengoku is slower than Tengen... Gyutaro was faster than Tengen... so ideally Gyutaro would have no issue at least cutting or wounding Rengoku... and that's the end of that. Rengoku dies. He has no resistance to the poison and can't endure it like Tengen did. Even with Tanjiro, Rengoku would have to endure this fight without taking ONE cut, which is highly unlikely considering he is no where near the same level of speed as Tengen was. Whether he has Tanjiro or not, Rengoku would die long before the climax which would leave the boys alone to face off with him during the final battle which... they would more than likely lose unless Tanjiro went Sun breathing God out of anger from seeing Rengoku die. Give Tengen the credit he deserves. He was the perfect matchup for this fight and he deserves his praise. I love Rengoku, but he would not have succeeded in this match like Tengen did.
@azayzelll
@azayzelll Жыл бұрын
notes: Akaza barely tried against Rengoku until the very end when he thought he was going to die. He was laughing, barely strained, only using a couple of his many techniques. Rengoku would swiftly die from the poison Gyutaro would dish out if he ever hit him, however his reflexes, while slightly tired, were enough to stand up to Akaza, and when injured, was able to use a technique that'd startle the upper 3 demon. I think that Rengoku could avoid getting poisoned by Gyutaro, and as someone with a higher battle IQ than Uzui (considering Rengoku's plan to deal with Enmu was much more well thought out than Tengen's was against upper 6, and he knew there was an upper rank far before rengoku knew the situation of the train, we can safely say Rengoku is smarter) if he knew that Gyutaro had poison. In short; Rengoku could very well win against the two if he had the knowledge of their abilities.
@xz_voidyy3185
@xz_voidyy3185 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, who would push through and win but would suffer severe damage
@kexon2
@kexon2 Жыл бұрын
He does not have a better iq than tengen stop the cap tengens musical score technique alone puts him above rengoku in that field.
@azayzelll
@azayzelll Жыл бұрын
@@kexon2 i understand where you're coming from, but a technique doesn't equate to informational processing skills, and being able to quickly think. uzui's perception is better, but rengoku would be able to process and think of a solution for the situation much faster.
@warden1775
@warden1775 Жыл бұрын
@@azayzelll where did you find that?
@thyone3925
@thyone3925 Жыл бұрын
​@@kexon2 You're overrating that technique. Tengen used it and STILL couldn't take out upper 6. Tengen still got stabbed and his eye sliced off and he needed Tanjiro to literally jump in and finish upper 6.
@the_well-known_stranger2275
@the_well-known_stranger2275 Жыл бұрын
He has no resistance to poison, so he quickly dies.
@Luhghost
@Luhghost Жыл бұрын
"a run for his money" LMFAO he was playing with dude
@khyreepeacock6779
@khyreepeacock6779 Жыл бұрын
I personally disagree in the first part of the video. akaza was not given a run for his money. That's not true. Later in the series, akaza reacts to way faster opponents then Rengoku. At the end of the fight, where he gets serious, he stabs a hole through rengokus chest like it's nothing, which is the most amount of damage he did in the whole fight to rengoku meaning akaza not trying all bda skills
@dco7710
@dco7710 Жыл бұрын
I would argue it wasn’t even 40%. He begged Rengoku to become a demon and complimented him the whole fight. In the manga, it takes less than a chapter for Rengoku to be in a terrible state.
@AraAra_TellingTheTruth
@AraAra_TellingTheTruth Жыл бұрын
If you paid a bit of attention, Akaza actually used Destructive Death: Annihilation Type the same one he used on himself in the manga
@khyreepeacock6779
@khyreepeacock6779 Жыл бұрын
@Facts only no, it's not the same. Akza puts more force into that one.
@khyreepeacock6779
@khyreepeacock6779 Жыл бұрын
@Facts only also what does that mean, so what he still didn't use, like 3 of his moves plus his strongest technique
@twizzyasl
@twizzyasl Жыл бұрын
Akaza still had difficulty killing Rengoku he even had him running away like a Coward in the end it was definitely not easy for Akaza and Rengoku only used 6 of the 9 forms of flame breathing
@soberzay6924
@soberzay6924 4 күн бұрын
no it doesn’t take him very long at all to use his musical score the only reason he struggled to use it was because of the poison. Once he was able to stop the poison by stopping his heart he was able to use it no problem aslo the tegan u see at the end of that fight was his full strength (minus the fact he only had one hand!) but once the poison stopped circulating he was able to fight as he normally would and look how op he was again with one hand! He even says after looking at tagniro he said “look what i let happen all because i allowed myself to get poisoned” so if he didn’t get poisoned at the beginning of the fight he would of been that beast we saw at the end but with two hands! And its not his fault that he got poisoned cuz he didnt know those attacks poisoned you until after. Would be the same with rangoku plus one little scratch he would be dead fight over, the only reason tegan tanked it as long as he did was because he use to be a Shinobi and had poison resistance. Also tegan wasn’t knocked out fully in the fight he was resting to be able to stop his hart to stop the poison so he could stand a chance against guytaro, oh what u think he just happened to wake up RIGHT when tagniro was about to get stabbed.? Lol plus guytaro even says “what he wasn’t dead? He must of just been resting to stop his heart to be able to stop the poison”. So yeah again If he had both hands he be even stronger cuz he wasn’t even able to use most of his techniques at end cuz of only having one hand and look how he was washing guytaro with ONE HAND!😂 so I actually think a tegan and rangoku fight could go either way but to say rangoku would do better than tegan against upper 6 is ridiculous for the reasons i stated above^^. Also idk if yall read the manga so i wont spoil anything but its very obvious that akaza was using NO MORE than 50% of his power and still HE WAS PLAYING WITH RANGOKU lol. Also rangoku didnt defeat enmu he protected 5 carts from those weak ass tentacles. Its still impressive 5 carts but it was tagniro that killed enmu so. Rangoku is one of my favourite characters but facts are facts. Tegan respects rangoku a lot and sees him as a “natural talent” compared to him who had to work mainly for his strength which he says in the show. Tegan is humble not to mention rangoku was dead at that point so he was also being respectful to his friend when thinking about him but tegan is not weaker than rangoku like i said there fight could go either way.✌🏽
@Julian.noah2
@Julian.noah2 Жыл бұрын
Can you please do what if kyojuro rengoku was present at the swordsmith village instead of tokito muichiro
@dupreetracey
@dupreetracey Жыл бұрын
And he still was protecting tanjiro in the 1v1 and he wasn’t knocked unconscious he’s a shinobi, he stopped his heart to slow the poison…
@parsing8642
@parsing8642 Жыл бұрын
Dude said akaza went 60% he wasnt even going 30% in that fight for sure. Look what he did to a marked + stw + selfless tanjiro and a marked giyuu.
@magedark
@magedark Жыл бұрын
Whoa whoa whoa first off., What is the name of that music at the start of this video?
@tinotendandoro2417
@tinotendandoro2417 9 ай бұрын
The glazing is unreal.
@khaleedsyed7257
@khaleedsyed7257 Жыл бұрын
Bro zenitsu is crazy he'd definitely be able to take on daki
@rots3123
@rots3123 Жыл бұрын
rengoku was not even tired at all during his fight on train and enmu he is in perfect condition when he fight akaza.
@minmin_YT
@minmin_YT Жыл бұрын
Rengoku as the hashira in the mission would not beat Gyutaro and Daki. Tengen was the absolute perfect hashira to go up against Gyutaro and his poisons. Also Tengen was not "knocked out", he was acting this way to stop his heart to stop the poison flow, and was also preparing his musical score. Another thing we should note is that Tengen is physically faster than any other hashira, and Tengen once lunged at Gyutaro and Gyutaro was able to dodge it and even strike Tengen in the head. Rengoku would have to not get hit by Gyutaro's poison or Gyutaro would play around Rengoku until the poison overtook his strength. But seeing as Gyutaro dodged the quickest hashira like that, I doubt Rengoku could avoid a hit.
@trabiasblagmon5180
@trabiasblagmon5180 Жыл бұрын
The thing that matters most is if you can behead Both UPM6 Siblings around the same timeframe. Based on the speed Rengoku used to sprint up to Akaza's face and impress him he should be faster than UMP6 who is ranked lower. Rengoku can probably blitz both of them but he will get poisoned if he clashes with Gyutaro.
@channerrerrie3806
@channerrerrie3806 Жыл бұрын
Kyojuro is slower than Tengen. He would get hit and die from the poison.
@trabiasblagmon5180
@trabiasblagmon5180 Жыл бұрын
@@channerrerrie3806 Rengoku is only slower than Tengen in terms of running long distances. Rengoku and every other Hashira fights faster than Tengen. This is why Tengen could only collide with Gyutaro solo instead of cutting him.
@channerrerrie3806
@channerrerrie3806 Жыл бұрын
@@trabiasblagmon5180 In the manga it explained that because of Gyutaro's poison, Tengen was unable to cut him. The poison only allowed Tengen to block or dodge his attacks. Literally at the moment where his sword extended at Gyutaro's neck, he could've killed him. Tengen is actually the 2nd fastest overall hashira. He is far superior to the others (except Gyomei) in senses, reflexes, muscle control, reaction speed and technique speed. Their is solid evidence for it. Tengen was even stated to have a freakishly large lung capacity. Tengen (base) is the 2nd strongest hashira. (I dont want to be that one guy who claims that Tengen is the 2nd strongest without proof, but I can explain and have evidence for my claims)
@Biothermiac
@Biothermiac Жыл бұрын
@@channerrerrie3806 Yeah and with a slayer's mark he could easily compete with some other marked hashira. Unfortunate he got taken out of the story so early, would've loved to see him develop into a beast
@Mattwick732
@Mattwick732 Жыл бұрын
@@channerrerrie3806 No rengoku fought an upper moon 3 not 5 or 4, 3 and dodged most of his attacks. Tengen even states he could never be like rengoku theirs no way in hell he's stronger or faster. Tengen is faster in terms of long distance due to his ninja background. Upper moon 5 has poison fish he summons muichiro dodged over 1,000 of them coming his way and blitzed upper moon 5 tengen isn't the only hashira who can get past poison. Tengen dies if he fights upper moon 5 and all the other upper moons blitz him. He needed help from 5+ people. Theirs no way in hell that a person who impressed an upper moon 3 is weaker than someone who struggled against the lowest moon. If tengen fought akaza he would get blitz in under 2 min. Hypothetically if rengoku is struggling against gutaro and daki who's to say he would not unlock his mark. Akaza was just too strong for rengoku to get development.
@thefanwithoutaface8105
@thefanwithoutaface8105 Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't matter. Akaza could've killed Rengoku instantly if he'd wanted to, but played around with him. Gyutaro wouldn't hold back and Rengoku lacks Tengen's agility, speed, explosives and poison resistance. One little cut and he's dead.
@CasualCasimir
@CasualCasimir Жыл бұрын
I believe he’d be able to defeat both of them at the same time while also dying succumbing to the poison. Something Teagan was a resistant to. He was a literal counter for the upper rank 6
@the_goofy_guyy8071
@the_goofy_guyy8071 Жыл бұрын
Nah he not beating them both by himself considering he gotta slice both their heads at the same time n they smart enough not to stand right next to each other to let that happen
@CasualCasimir
@CasualCasimir Жыл бұрын
@@the_goofy_guyy8071 I agree and disagree at the same time ring Goku is fast enough and clever enough to do that yet you are correct it would be difficult to do so outright, and we both agree that he would lose anyways
@omegasteve8485
@omegasteve8485 Жыл бұрын
We also know that strength wise Rach upper rank is stronger than the last by atleast 2-6 times Gyokko’s final form was as strong as diamonds while hantenggu’s joy demon was capable of easily shattering diamonds with his talons
@shadowsredeye
@shadowsredeye Жыл бұрын
That would not do, hantengu clones could barely handle genya and crew , you Anna say that those clones are strong , hell no
@nrgiseternal3109
@nrgiseternal3109 6 ай бұрын
If you understand flame breathing gyutaro is a nightmare for rengoku. Flame breathing are linear quick strikes which means gyus wide attacks eat him
@pipethegadoll1376
@pipethegadoll1376 5 ай бұрын
Not only that but Rengokus technqiue speed ain't near Tengens and Gyutaro was faster than Tengen so yeah.......Rengoku quite literally gets demolished.
@Nana-hy6zt
@Nana-hy6zt Жыл бұрын
So how would rengoku battle the poison?
@trollsinownface888
@trollsinownface888 Жыл бұрын
We can be honest, the flame pillar would clap the upper 6th sister, the brother would give a hard fight, but the flame pillar would die since he is fighting a demon that is the real upper 6th and it's super fast, and the sound pillar is one of the fastest pillars, so yeah, the flame pillow would die even if he got close because the poison would kill him instantly😅 Cause it just sounds weird to resist some poison, even he can't resist it, and it took a couple minutes, or a couple hours for the going, and he wants to arm in the process. That's how weak he was, and he was the one that could resist the poison, the most ever the whole pillars. This just wouldn't be a trouble because she's very week, and she's only got upper moon 7 😂
@funkymonkey2k197
@funkymonkey2k197 Жыл бұрын
Didn't Tengen had a poison resistance? I'm not sure but that's what i remember.
@josuke_higashikata9339
@josuke_higashikata9339 Жыл бұрын
He does, and we know that is a key factor since the one time tanjiro is hurt by gytaros Sickles he immediately started l choking shortly after.
@romelegend8475
@romelegend8475 Жыл бұрын
Rengoku was no where near tired when he started fighting akaza lol. And he really didn’t push akaza much until the sun started coming up. A lot of times I feel people just add in littlest things that aren’t true to make what they’re saying make sense.
@mynameitsciupapo985
@mynameitsciupapo985 Жыл бұрын
Bro this guy's are highly trained, they can control the damage output to them with eazz like stop bleeding, poison (circulation) , and i think many more but just in case they're are extremely close to each other like let's sai shinobu its 1200 power rengoku 1379 and tengem 1350 the diff between its low , all very strong
@damariperkins8692
@damariperkins8692 Жыл бұрын
can u do what obani came on time for the battle
@sugammgr2887
@sugammgr2887 Жыл бұрын
if rengoku was there he would defineatly died of gyutaro poison but atleast we can say we will not have to see donut in the chest
@Thekindcowboy_ASMR
@Thekindcowboy_ASMR Жыл бұрын
just know that all the hashira have some resistance because in the finale arc all the hashira were fighting muzan and resisting muzan's cell killing poison which was more potent than gyutaros poison but at the end of the day we don't know how well rengoku would handle gyutaros poison but we can just guess also muichiro was resisting gyokkos poison and idk if gyokkos poison was more potent what do yall think but marked rengoku would definitely win against gyutaro
@shadowsredeye
@shadowsredeye Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a poison , it wasn't said that muzan was using poison
@realikul2
@realikul2 Жыл бұрын
saying tanjiro carried is ridiculous lool. Tengen was the one that carried, literally saved tanjiro's life multiple times. tanjiro was kinda in the way until the end. also tengen lost his arm from saving tanjiro and jumping off the roof with gyutaro when gyutaro activated his blood art. tengen was also tanking poison at the time. he then got up and cooked gyutaro with one hand. except gyomei, no hashira is beating gyutaro. respectfully. funny thing is tengen was lowkey cooking both daki and gyutaro at once in the beginning, daki is a non factor tbh
@Madara_-yv4pd
@Madara_-yv4pd Жыл бұрын
I’m one that thinks that Tengen is stronger than Rengoku but even then it’s rather close but as much as I love Rengoku , the poison that gyutaro has is just way to strong and I think that’s the deciding factor here plus I’m pretty sure any Hashira could lose a 1v1 to gyutaro mainly cause of it
@Friezahatesmonke-_-
@Friezahatesmonke-_- Жыл бұрын
sanemi in question
@Tellulun
@Tellulun Жыл бұрын
​@@Friezahatesmonke-_-sanemi is one of the safest options to die. He got heavy scars by ordinary demons. He wont dodge anything from gyutaro. He has no Poison Resistance =☠️ in 2 Minute
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 Жыл бұрын
Maybe shinobu could cure the poison or slow it down. Some like sanemi and gyomei can slow the poison. So yeah
@pipethegadoll1376
@pipethegadoll1376 7 ай бұрын
​​@@Friezahatesmonke-_-Sanemi dies too. Just like that guy said,ANY hashira in a 1v1 dies to Gyutaro.
@joshuafoote5144
@joshuafoote5144 9 ай бұрын
I would imagine that Flame Breathing techniques would work well against Daki. Then again, he doesn't actually attack his enemies with fire.
@deepeshkumar9206
@deepeshkumar9206 Жыл бұрын
He is underestimating sound hashira
@thefarmer6541
@thefarmer6541 4 ай бұрын
In terms of physicals i would say rengoku and gyutaro are equal but the poison man. The poison within a few seconds was already killing tanjiro, while rengoku would have better resistance he would still be dead in a few minutes being generous. Theres no reason to believe he has the resistance like tengen had, even if you wnat to say his endurance will allow him to ignore the affects no amount of endurance prevents the poison stopping his heart.
@pipethegadoll1376
@pipethegadoll1376 4 ай бұрын
The only physical attribute Rengoku has over Gyutaro is strength. Everything else is Gyutaro.
@flashysenpai8549
@flashysenpai8549 Жыл бұрын
You cannot forget about the poison bro smh
@TheAdamdunlap
@TheAdamdunlap Жыл бұрын
You only take the poison affect into 1 fight...!?!?
@vatarants
@vatarants Жыл бұрын
No Hashira could hold Daki and Gyutaro except Tengen due to his poison resistance. I could imagine Rengoku could cut Daki's head one or two time and after Gyutaro manifested, He will lose pretty quickly. Tengen is best Hashira for this job hands down.
@Rexchuck9968
@Rexchuck9968 7 ай бұрын
I think gyomei could with his weapon he can do big damage and avoid poison And sanemi can kill both of them. But would also die
@ramon4184
@ramon4184 Жыл бұрын
Akaza wasn't going 70% that is a fallacy 😂 honestly what gave you that idea
@J2Swavi
@J2Swavi Жыл бұрын
if any hashira aside from tengen fought daki and gyuutarou they would lose (gyomei might be an exception but I don't want to get into that bag of marbles) for one reason gyuutarou has poison. 1 hit slice or cut is deadly so the only way to beat gyuutarou is to either A) be strong and fast enough to slice both their heads cleans off at the same time (gyomei technically has 2 weapons) or B) have poison resistance from being a shinobu in short rengoku gets destroyed
@dark-winged-angel136
@dark-winged-angel136 Жыл бұрын
Giyu is also a good contender as he has the best defence
@J2Swavi
@J2Swavi Жыл бұрын
@@dark-winged-angel136 dead calm is viable but an unmarked giyuu without red blade is just no where near enough
@illumination_0109
@illumination_0109 Жыл бұрын
The problem with this argument is that Tanjiro was affected by the poison and still could continue fighting, so the poison argument isn't as justified and we've seen poison can be suppressed with breathing technique even without resistance
@dark-winged-angel136
@dark-winged-angel136 Жыл бұрын
@@illumination_0109 maybe it can be suppressed but it doesn't prevent death
@J2Swavi
@J2Swavi Жыл бұрын
@@illumination_0109 nah within the first 1 minute of being hit with the poison he started to choke re read the arc
@Jvue1
@Jvue1 Жыл бұрын
It was stated that if gyutaro fought from the start alone without daki he would have defeated all the demon slayers in the entertainment arc
@jjt5073
@jjt5073 Жыл бұрын
the author meant from the start as in like since he became a demon not since the fight started
@arclight7892
@arclight7892 Жыл бұрын
yeah because they wouldn't be able to kill him because they need to cut both of their heads at the same time. He could just hide daki somewhere safe and endlessly regenerate his head if they managed to cut it.
@mellow3995
@mellow3995 Жыл бұрын
@@arclight7892 Yea same with Upper 4 tbh, these demons have full proof ways of staying alive yet they're so overconfident because of how many swordsmen and hashiras they've killed they don't even consider it.
@user-vu4lq5ut9y
@user-vu4lq5ut9y 2 ай бұрын
I would say that akaza was using his 40 to 45% of power during the whole fight as he was toying Rengoku but in the last moment he might be using his 78 to 86% of power as he was struggling and my opinion on Rengoku vs daki and gyutaro is that if you can kill both of them separately then I would be betting on Rengoku but if you ho to cut both of their heads simultaneously like in series the I think the demons will win
@gajeel6
@gajeel6 8 ай бұрын
Rengoku dies if he gets 1 cut. Just 1. Tengen has a resistance to poisons, Rengoku does not. And with poisons, the more you move, the faster is spreads in your system. He dies before Gyutaro even gets serious. Tengen was maching Gyutaro speed for speed, blow for blow with 1 hand. He was taking on Daki and Gyutaro at once after getting a big cut on his head.
@MrLacy2010
@MrLacy2010 Жыл бұрын
the poison would take out rengoku very fast hes not resistant to it a better fighter but not a good matchup this one, dont think they would win plus the girls played some minor distraction, so hard to say really
@shikaotsu7194
@shikaotsu7194 Жыл бұрын
I like Kyojuro, but I don't see him beating Gyutaro in a one on one at all..and if it's a two on one? He definitely loses, Gyutaro's poisonous blood is too fast for Kyojuro, you have the fastest Hashira and second physically strongest struggling to deal with deflecting the blood slashes when they're launched at a distance, and we can see multiple times before Tengen was wounded severely and lost an arm that Gyutaro could react and keep up with Tengen, outspeeding him multiple times as well..and then people will say "Gyutaro lost to a weaker Tanjiro and Tengen", Tengen gets stronger and faster as the fight goes on due to his Musical Score ability and Tanjiro had awakened his mark at that point and Tengen was superior to Tanjiro with the mark, personally I think Tengen is just humble because based on feats and how the fight went, you could argue he's above Muichiro, Giyu, (pre mark) and Kyojuro since Gyutaro's rank doesn't seem to reflect his overall power, and if Daki didn't exist he'd be way stronger because he wouldn't be distracted by her and all he'd have to do is pay attention to himself and the people he fights, literally any Hashira other than Tengen (and maybe Sanemi or Shinobu?) couldn't fight after getting struck by the poisonous blood, and if he hits them at close range they'll die much quicker..you have to realize the only two that got hit by Gyutaro that could still move were Inosuke and Tengen due to their poison resistance, and even then it didn't help much..Tanjiro passed out after getting stabbed once in the jaw, Inosuke got stabbed in his chest and only managed to survive due to his body being able to move the organs around and his resistance to poison, without Nezuko they all would've died anyways..
@ayashinightcore8282
@ayashinightcore8282 Жыл бұрын
Dude just completely disregarded that rengoku would need to no hit gyutaro because if gyutaro got one hit in rengoku would be dead
@sicawhoremanchester6821
@sicawhoremanchester6821 Жыл бұрын
Had this arguement been gyomei/Sanemi i would say we're onto something, then again if we are to consider a poisoned newly marked Muichiro could Blitz number 5's perception, then i suppose the debate between Sanemi or Gyomei is a bit redundant thinking about it now.
@ikarus4570
@ikarus4570 Жыл бұрын
we have a canonical list of the fastest hashira and top 1 is tengen [that is, without the mark, also, thats for running speed], whilst rengoku is 5th. we also have a canonical list of the strongest hashira and its stated that both tengen and rengoku have the same strength. tengen also has poison resistance and more perfected skills, as rengoku never had a master and has several issues on his techniques (which can be observed on his lack of 5th-9th form of the flame breathing). the only thing about rengoku that is unarguably better than uzui is the breathing style; sound is a derivation of lightning, which is a derivation of sun, whereas flame is the very first ramification. also, flame breathing is probably closer to sun breathing than all others. i dont think there's a world where rengoku can beat gyutaro, with or without help, by any chance, since he wouldnt even have the help of uzui's wives. sure rengoku stood toe to toe with akaza... sorta, this shit is getting too extensive, so im just gonna summarize my thoughts about rengoku's feets: akaza was probably not even taking him seriously until the moment the sun started to rise. 60% akaza would clap almost any hashira thats not gyomei and arguably sanemi, seen that 100% akaza destroyed the shit out of giyuu and tanjirou (remember that akaza only lost due to transparent world, if tanjiro didnt have this thing, akaza would get out of the fight kinda harmless). tl dr: rengoku probably cant beat gyutaro and thats not even because of the poison
@gdgamer0636
@gdgamer0636 Жыл бұрын
Do muichiro next.
@forget499
@forget499 Жыл бұрын
Very good analysis but at the same time, I’d say that just based on Tengens specific skills and strengths, Kyojuro might not help much more. Tengen is trained to endure poisons and Kyojuro is not, Gyutaros poison is probably a very very strong poison considering Tengen couldn’t even fight it well. I don’t think Rengoku is fast enough either to keep up with Gyutaro and not get hit ONCE. He might beat Gyutaro but he would die in the process, kinda like if he sliced Akazas head off but died from the hole in his chest. But this is Akaza Rengoku, honestly I’d say after Rengoku defeats Akaza he either would awaken his demon slayer mark or his sword would turn red. So in the case that he beats Akaza I’d say he might even be able to beat Daki and Gyutaro simultaneously.
@nikitajakovlevs9727
@nikitajakovlevs9727 Жыл бұрын
If it wasnt for his sister he would of won and clime to upper 4 or 5
@parsing8642
@parsing8642 Жыл бұрын
This dude cant scale and never should again.
@delanofawkes6807
@delanofawkes6807 Жыл бұрын
dude akaza used his full power when they clashed with purgatory and shockwave bda
@ChirpyXC
@ChirpyXC Жыл бұрын
4:32 wayyy too much faith. But uf were making bet id gladly take your money on this bet
@stevenm9990
@stevenm9990 Жыл бұрын
If akaza wasnt trying to convince him to turn into a demon it definitely would not have played out like it did. He had no blood lust
@ellomate2006
@ellomate2006 Жыл бұрын
One thing people aren’t considering in rengoku fighting the poison is breathing technique’s help stop poisons in demon slayer and if an untrained zenitsu can hold off a fairly strong poison for quite a while I’m sure a hashira with total concentration constant and can literally heal himself from decently serious injuries ( stabs internal bleeding etc ) and he has arguably the 3rd strongest breathing because it’s the most similar to sun breathing other then moon of course and rengoku probably would’ve benn poisoned at a point after Tengen as he has better feats
@exia1504
@exia1504 Жыл бұрын
Lol what? If you're comparing the spiders venom to Gyutaros and healing poison by breathing....damn bro everything on that paragraph is just wrong, truth is a single slash is a massive nerf, Tengen managed to survive that long because of his built up poison resistance any other hashira woulve never lasted that long (maybe Gyomei or Sanemi)
@ellomate2006
@ellomate2006 Жыл бұрын
@@exia1504 I never said that the spiders venom was as powerful as gyutaro but it’s relative enough to say that breathing techniques would slow the poison and like I said rengoku wouldn’t get poisoned as fast as tenges did because it’s stated by tengen rengoku stronger and if rengoku was able to hold till sunrise and kept everyone safe against akaza that’s more evidence to him being stronger then tengen and then 9th form would most likely kill gyutaro and he has the help from tanjiro inosuke tengens 3 wives ( assuming they went in as spy’s ) and nezukos who can heal the poison and since rengoku would dispatch gyutaro faster then tengen did the poison would have less time to take effect
@ellomate2006
@ellomate2006 Жыл бұрын
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@ellomate2006
@ellomate2006 Жыл бұрын
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@ellomate2006
@ellomate2006 Жыл бұрын
@@exia1504 oh yeah and about 5:11 I disagree with this one as rengoku has fairly high battle iq considering how he immediately sorted out a plan for the carts manage to get roughly close to where emus head was so with that considered this would most likely figure out Dakis and gyutaro trick fairly quickly and would speed blitz Daki cutting her head off and probably doing the same thing muichiro did to gyokkos head (cutting it into pieces) then would turn his attention to gyutaro which we know is a match he wins
@Meliodas-uv1tp
@Meliodas-uv1tp Жыл бұрын
Akaza was at 20% at absolute most when during the actual fight and was absolutely destroying rengoku
@JottoHearthStone
@JottoHearthStone Жыл бұрын
he was really struggling to escape at the end, so him and Rengoku are likely equal in physical strength atleast But yeah obviously in terms of abilities, if Akaza as going all out from the start he would have crushed him
@dupreetracey
@dupreetracey Жыл бұрын
He did not give him a run for his money 😂😂😂😂 your crazy he was. Using at most 35%
@Ryan-._.-
@Ryan-._.- Жыл бұрын
Rengoku also wouldn’t have been able to stop the poison like Tengen. So I say Rengoku may still die unless nezuko was quick enough to quit the fighting to help Rengoku’s position issue. “Which is harder than it looks” he’d die
@bradleymesidor4355
@bradleymesidor4355 Жыл бұрын
Yu forgot bout the poison bro , tengen was prolly the best match up if yu don’t include top three hashira
@omeganeoz
@omeganeoz Жыл бұрын
i agree with everything here except, Tanjiro probably wouldnt beat Daki, or he might but i think Rengoku would defeat Gyutaro so that he could come help Tanjiro. and Uzui wasnt defeated there he was just acting/stopped his heart. and i think if only inosuke or zenitsu joined Rengoku instead that the same as i said with tanjiro would probably happen.
@ronaldalexon5510
@ronaldalexon5510 Жыл бұрын
I feel like most people overlook the fact that rengoku literally reacted to akaza's speed when he was about to blitz tanjiro right off the bat. That should tell that rengoku would easily be able to react to gyutaro's attacks. Plus, rengoku's 9th form pretty much one shots gyutaro or maybe even both gyutaro and daki considering how he was so close to beheading a half serious akaza with that form. We all know the top 3 upper moons are leagues above the bottom 3. Half serious akaza is still leagues above and faster than gyutaro
@pipethegadoll1376
@pipethegadoll1376 11 ай бұрын
Everything you said here is ENTRIELY flawed. Respectively. 1. You compared Gyutaro to Akaza indirectly(or directly) by making some simple statement of "Rengoku reacted to Akaza so he should to Gyutaro". This is not at all the correct answer. A pillars honed senses or reactions come from their amount of experience in the Corp and that's confirmed through Sanemi in ICA. Tengen is the second most experienced hashira in terms of the slayer corp and THE MOST experienced in overall combat and fighting. His senses or reactions>>>and everyone else save for Gyomei being a rival. The fact even TENGEN got tagged shows Rengoku is also getting the same treatment. On top of that,Rengoku is at a disadvantage in CQC with Gyutaro being a dual wielder. Rengoku cannot counter two blows or multiple in quick sucession. 2. Half serious Akaza is not leagues above Gyutaro at all. That's a headcanon rumor everyone likes to believe and it doesn't even have to be Akaza and Gyutaro. It could be Doma and Gyokko. The big three are massively stronger than the bottom three BUT at their FP. This is actually very consistent because Tengen>>Rengoku in everything category there is and yet the weakest UM slapped him meaning Rengokutoying Akaza as Akaza also beat him. EVERY UM requires 2-3 pillars. It's not just UM's 1-3. It's EVERY. That's lore and that's consistent. If Gyutaro slapped the 2nd strongest overall pillar than what makes you think he's not gonna need or require another one to confront and battle with?
@pipethegadoll1376
@pipethegadoll1376 11 ай бұрын
P.S sorry for the long response but hope I made my point.
@exia1504
@exia1504 Жыл бұрын
Truth is, rengoku would've died, the only reason Tengen survived that long was because his poison resistance, not to mention Tengen us more experienced, physically stronger and faster than rengoku, I get the love for the flame hashira, but let's be real here
@jadenissogreat9879
@jadenissogreat9879 Жыл бұрын
So uhhh did you forget what happens to tanjiro rengoku is getting shit on by gyutaro mid-high tengen was the only hashira that would come out of that alive you seen to of not watched demon slayer whatsoever as if you did then you would know that if you get stabbed once by gyutaro with no prior poison resistance it’s an auto kill rengoku has no poison resistance therefore he’s getting one tapped
@deity4035
@deity4035 Жыл бұрын
gyutaro ones shots next video
@darmanjones3415
@darmanjones3415 Жыл бұрын
Gyutaro literally made fun of tanjiro being the most useless in the fight and tanjiro even tells genya that he was the least helpful in the fight. Also gyutaros poison is not fair at all since tengen was poisoned in the beginning of the fight and it was slowing him down and everyone else that was poisoned almost died before tengen did, tanjiro being almost instantly. Also the fact the tengen had to protect tanjiro most of the fight, rengoku can't win if he can't take a single cut without dying instantly
@mwinecarlos9928
@mwinecarlos9928 Жыл бұрын
If rengoku avoids the poison, he can decapitate the two himself. But even if the poison affects him, he will continue fighting till he kills them, but dies himself. And rengoku was not matching akaza's strength. Akaza was just playing with him, he could have actually died much sooner than expected. If akaza took him seriously, he would cut him, tanjiro, inosuke, zenitsu possibly nezuko and the passengers right down the middle right then and there. He just wasn't serious that's why rengoku almost made him burn in sunlight.
@kachiedits6231
@kachiedits6231 10 ай бұрын
When it comes down to it I'd argue that rengoku is stronger then gyutaro the problem is the poison and since he has no resistance to it he would likely be killed even if he manages to beat gyutaro at the same time
@birdmanharvey4868
@birdmanharvey4868 Жыл бұрын
Idk I would say the demons win one on one against rengoku but even muzan says daki hold him back plus each rank of demon going up from 5 to 1 the power gape is immense and rengoku fought the upper three I do not think he could have won but I definitely think he could beat every other demon below even the pairs. But I can see what you are saying about the poison, but even in the show how they represent both tengen and rengoku rengoku is much fast and even tengen say rengoku is much stronger then him so I can most definitely see him cutting both heads off at the same time.
@khalidbashir3546
@khalidbashir3546 Ай бұрын
soo basically you're saying rengoku will go againt gyutaro untouched through out the fight? that's not possible. no way he's winning against gyutaro even with tanjiro,zenitsu and inosuke. not even rengoku,any hashira apart from gyomei is going to lose against daki and gyutaro duo
@jah96
@jah96 Жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure Rengoku would die fast in the battle due to poison, note Tengen had poison immunity due to his shinobi training, but Gyutaro poison almost killed him nonetheless
@YMT201
@YMT201 Жыл бұрын
Although rengoku is definitely stronger than dakin and gyuutaro he isnt as fast as them like he wouldnt have the resistance and speed that tengen has although they both can easily kill daki gyuutaro was a problem cause of his speed and poison which rengoku doesnt counter well enough to so he would probably due to the poison sadly
@obash124genious2
@obash124genious2 Жыл бұрын
bro, Rengoku went toe to toe with akaza(speed wise) and your calling him slow heck! Tanjiro couldn`t even see his fight with Akaza yet Tanjiro could keep up with gyutaro and tengen`s fight (yes he did train but its not like it bumps up his speed to the level of uppermoon 3.
@tyrewillis9841
@tyrewillis9841 Жыл бұрын
@@obash124genious2 your forgetting the poison thing lol rengoku is definitely stronger then gyutaro but he would die in seconds because of the poison. tangen is weaker then rengoku but tangen is poison resistant so he was able to fight gyutaro. like a said its a rock paper scissors type thing
@obash124genious2
@obash124genious2 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrewillis9841 why is every one assuming Rengoku has no poison resistance. and even if so, we can`t assume that just one hit would render a hashira dead and unable to counter or even come up with a plan. we are talking about rengoku here
@tyrewillis9841
@tyrewillis9841 Жыл бұрын
@@obash124genious2 Because tangen only had it because he was a shanobi and went through shanobi training. its literally in tangens backstory that he trained to be resistant to poison. And as Guitaro said all 15 hashera before tangen died immediately after getting cut from the poison. thats why im saying its a rock paper scissors thing. tangen is literally only good for fighting guitaro and would probably die against eny other uper moon
@tyrewillis9841
@tyrewillis9841 Жыл бұрын
@@obash124genious2 You're just bias to your favorite character. My dude look at the facts.🤦‍♂️😂 We know a hashira would die in one hit from uper moon 6 because the show said they would. only 2 characters were ever stated to have poison resistance enough to fight him and none of those characters was rengoku
@natasdrake5127
@natasdrake5127 2 ай бұрын
Bro its impossible for rengoku to win that figth cause hey i know what u trying to say about the 60% off akaza strengt agains rengoku but thats bot true he was really just messing around he could kill rengoku in one blow if it was hes intension, so Im trying to explain my point of view in terms of strength Im quite sure rengoku and uzui are kind on the same boat and when we talk about speed rengoku is not really faster then tengen, and we still have the venom of gyutarro what would kill rengoku much faster then uzui. Its no match
@jdogerz
@jdogerz Жыл бұрын
Hello? Poison resistance factor? You mean to tell me that you think RENGOKU-SAN wouldn’t get touched even once by gyutaro’s scary ass? Idk man feels like a reach and a half
@xffriskk
@xffriskk Жыл бұрын
Gyutaro Will go boom at the end and its over lol
@goodbye6676
@goodbye6676 Жыл бұрын
Love the grind bro 💪
@Kugisakimo
@Kugisakimo Жыл бұрын
Ain't no way people think Akaza is using 60% of his power against Rengoku nah. I don't think many people truly understand that Rengoku's fight against Akaza cannot be used as a reliable evidence to prove Rengoku's power because Akaza was holding back too much. I know people want to say he is strong because he quote on quote "kept up with Akaza", but what you need to understand Akaza was not trying to kill him and holding back a lot and Rengoku was still losing really badly. How can you use the fight as a feat if Akaza is not trying to kill him, and is playing around with him and he is still losing. The demon slayer Data book specifically stated Tengen is the comes in second when it comes to strength and first when it comes to speed, and that is from the author themselves. So what that basically means is that in base Tengen is faster and stronger than Rengoku not including his enhanced senses with give him faster reaction time, and his muscular score technique which gives him even better perception and reaction speed. If Rengoku was alive and would have gone to the entertainment districted he would have been fucked badly. Think about it if Tengen is faster and stronger than him has better reaction speed and senses, and poison resistance and Tengen struggled badly with Gyutaro what do you think Rengoku is actually gonna be able to do.
@elvinyep4575
@elvinyep4575 Жыл бұрын
you need t take into consideration that rengoku cant handle the poison like uzui and that uzui fell unconsious bc of the poison
@jimohabdulqudus4283
@jimohabdulqudus4283 Жыл бұрын
Why are you people this bias like this..... The only person that could fight gyutaro & actually win in the entertainment district arc was tengen uzui..... It's the only logical way.....Akaza wasn't even fighting well with rengoku.... He could ended that fight in a minute or 2 with just one demon art..... Saying he was using 60% of his strength is funny...Because he was literally telling rengoku not to die on him.... If rengoku fought Gyutaro, He isn't even going to last that long because he isn't poison resistant..... One hit from Gyutaro and he would be fighting for his life against the poison
@red_bridges5561
@red_bridges5561 Жыл бұрын
Tengen's got more experience than Rengoku, also Tengen looked like he was nearly dying so Rengoku would either be killed or nearly be killed..All i know is he would not come out without losing a couple of limbs
@Koku706
@Koku706 Жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with this video mainly because Rengoku wouldn’t be able to beat gyutaro. Pre mark hashira the best option to beat gyutaro was Tengen. I think everyone agrees Tengen was the fastest pre mark and he still got slashed by gyutaro. If he did then Rengoku would most certainly also get slashed and die because he has no poison resistance. I also disagree that Rengoku is stronger because the data books which are official say otherwise. Tengen is 2nd strongest and fastest ( of we talk in base) hashira which basically puts Rengoku below him In both strength and speed. Tengen is also smarter than Rengoku and has way more experience. The only good feat that Rengoku has is holding Akaza and matching his strength at the end of his life but that could only be a willpower boost showing his great determination. Overall Tengen is better than him.
@joeribeiro2839
@joeribeiro2839 Жыл бұрын
Even if Rengoku is stronger he would have faired worse in this fight. Uzui is potentially the fasteat hashira and even he wasnt able to react to gyotaros first attack fast enough to not gwt scratched. So Rengoku definitely would have been caught. And without the poison resistance Uzui has he may have died even earlier in the fight. Hes just not a good matchup for gyotoro
@joeribeiro2839
@joeribeiro2839 Жыл бұрын
Also Akaza was definitely not using 70% strength against Rengoku. More like 50 or probably lower
@bittus234
@bittus234 10 ай бұрын
@@joeribeiro2839”I need to kill him quickly!” -Akaza to Rengoku, chapter 64. Keep in mind, Akaza was at his peak in this fight due to how Compass Needle works. Rengoku has shown relativity with Akaza at the mid-end point of chapter 64. If Rengoku gets death amps against Gyutaro, Gyutaro is getting curbstomped.
@amitlevin8841
@amitlevin8841 Жыл бұрын
I think we're in Goku would win all of them because the fact is green Goku was fighting upper demon Moon 3 60% of the power as you said and nearly stalemating him wears tacky and the other upper demon Moon sick so they significantly weaker and you would presume even with the hacks ability we're in Goku would just curve Stomp Them All Because he would be significantly stronger
@gueparddu9398
@gueparddu9398 Жыл бұрын
goku???
@thegreatgamingkid8252
@thegreatgamingkid8252 Жыл бұрын
@Guepard du 93 You don’t remember green Goku hitting the griddy towards the Infinity Castle and proceeding to orange justice over all of the demons?
@dontawilliams8433
@dontawilliams8433 Жыл бұрын
@@thegreatgamingkid8252real
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