Why Dedede Is Bad but Good

[@FiveStringC]

Dedede is bad until someone loses to him

[@kode-man23]

Exactly this. He is the type of character that you can pick once, absolutely blow someone up for two stocks, then have the other person almost come back, only for you to clutch it out in a last-stock-last-hit scenario... and then immediately put him away, never to play again.

[@mateotheweeb_8258]

@@kode-man23 Piranha plant is in the same boat lmao

[@evanrussell4211]

That would include even MkLeo. lol

[@leffenfanaccount4257]

Mkleo lost to a ddd player recently

[@OmnipotentSaiyan]

Dedede is a solid B-Tier in my eyes change my mind...

[@WillowWillowWillowWillowWillow]

if you use dedede as a competitive character just to try winning, he's bad. but if you use him with the spirit of dedede, you will win. it isnt about playing a game. its about playing dedede. - a dedede main

[@KeizerSosebee]

Just let yourself become possessed by the spirit of the one true king and the rest becomes as easy as a game of whack a mole

[@wonderful_whiscash9534]

@@KeizerSosebee in other words, hur dur f smash lol

[@Pingimaster]

​@@KeizerSosebee possessed... hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@Kisemo]

@@wonderful_whiscash9534To the uneducated, maybe. But to the REAL mains… it is a method of major complexity. Not many have the mental capacity to understand what goes on in a Triple D main’s head

[@fathersatoru]

Ong

[@MegadeathAdams]

I love DDD. He's the most anti-meta character because he just always seems to work out in the end. The one character you play just to have dumb fun.

[@Pingimaster]

The reason i main him

[@StanleySophana]

A special thing about King Dedede, he’s one of the few penguins that can actually fly

[@jdkusch8749]

He learnes to inflate himself and fly to one up Kriby, D3 underated character

[@lucinamain6861]

it's not flying. it's falling with style

[@jonjeanis9903]

He’s also the only penguin who is also an eagle

[@89Legend]

Genius Comment

[@jaydencooke1805]

He wants to be better than dat dere Kirby

[@ITzaMii_]

Title perfectly describes him in the Kirby sieres.

[@tripleturtle3335]

lmaoo

[@calibvr]

True lol

[@silvesta5027]

Larry is truly a virtuoso of titles, masterfully evoking both Dedede’s position in the smash meta as well as his portrayal in the Kirby series. Simply brilliant

[@TheHorseWhoKnows]

I would have loved to see Larry encounter the pure joy of a DeDeDe ditto match. You don’t attack each other at first. You acknowledge the existence of another classy gentleman

[@sebastiansullivan4770]

What I do with puff dittos

[@gran4404]

Same with basically all heavies, or any character you'd play not for the tier but because you like them

[@averageboi]

Exactly

[@QSkyhawk]

Everytime. As a DDD main we nearly always acknowledge each other 1st

[@TrumpetTrash]

@@sebastiansullivan4770 you suffer unfortunately

[@theobamiumchronicles2838]

Can we talk about Dedede’s smile? It’s so precious.

[@emberpowertcg7692]

*down tilt intensify's*

[@egon3705]

get yourself a spouse that's as happy to see you as dedede is happy to nair

[@wlorenzo1y]

Larry just says he hates the king smile 😂🤣😂 hater

[@Suzaku_Mizutani]

As a DeDeDe main since Smash 4, my thoughts on the King: His ledgetraps are his bread and butter, as they're going to be the way you get kills. Uptilt is your best kill move, as it's fast and hits a reasonable area. DeDeDe has a problem with killing people in general. His faster moves often don't kill until the early-mid hundreds, so reads and traps are necessary to actually land stocks It will never not be funny when people attempt to stage spike my recovery -- it just doesn't work. He gets absolutely shit on by anyone with an option above like 6 frames, which is like most of mid and all of the higher tiers. Final assessment: DeDeDe currently ledge trapping? Godlike character. Any other time? oh god please stop comboing me, I just want to play the game please--

[@otakuyasha0066]

Despite all his flaws he's still my favorite character

[@brain_tonic]

I feel like Gordo should have a damage threshold before being deflected, its too silly that 1 falco laser will deflect it.

[@dustymcwari4468]

@@sireacquirees maybe make it so the Gordo gets deflected back IF the attack is decently strong, otherwise it just disappears without bouncing back at Dedede, or maybe if the attack is like a weak energy projectile of sorts (Fire, light, electricity, etc.) the Gordo cancels them out and keeps bouncing, making it a bit like a short lasting anti projectile spam barrier you can remove by whacking it right back at him

[@SpeedShadow54]

Nothing about his up-air? Whenever I play DDD against my friends, I find myself favoring U-air for kills around 100 and racking up dmg at low percents

[@ThatsNotEnglish]

@@SpeedShadow54 it's pretty good but quite slow and if you DI it properly it won't kill until 120 ish on mid weights

[@The_Timberman]

King Dededes most powerful tool in his arsenal is his crouch. Has a chance to whip some people up into a frenzy and make mistakes when used right.

[@mannx2_495]

Pls make Squidward walking sound effect for DDD a trend

[@Zak-Z-Ninja]

I knew I recognised that sound somewhere.

[@MD.1111]

im actually so surprised how dedede's gordo acts quite nicely in his favor most of the time, especailly with ledge trapping

[@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm]

Gordo also has the property where it becomes a heat seeking fucking missile when it gets reflected back at you

[@yourface13able]

@@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm was just about to say this, and the fact that in Kirby games Gordo is an unstoppable force of nature with all seeing eyes but in smash Gordo decided to be a ping ping ball and actively seek out its master for security when someone breaths on it

[@memenazi7078]

A good dedede should dodge it I believe

[@chenklazer2069]

@@ChrisPBacon-zf5gm @Andrizzle Not true. Gordo does not have heat seeking properties. it's still indestructable but you can just hit it back with enough hitstun and dmg

[@driphtwood]

@@chenklazer2069 He just meant that it doesn't matter what you hit it back with, it will always target D3

[@Jairjax]

I love when you toss a gordo at someone, it hits their projectile, then ricochets towards them somehow, doing a bazillion damage

[@ButterLover-]

Thats when you havent hit it with side b yet

[@ThatsNotEnglish]

it's because you hit it back with the end frames of side B lol

[@prefeudalalgebra]

Cons about dedede: almost everything Pros: he's a penguin and beat mkleo's smash 4 cloud

[@MetaKnightX6]

And has the 4th strongest default attack in the game ( fsmash )

[@wonderful_whiscash9534]

@@MetaKnightX6 his f smash is the strongest f smash in the game

[@SHCVoodoo]

Gordo Toss accepts Smash inputs too in addition to up, down, and forward, so there are actually 6 different inputs. Also, short hopping them messes with timing and angles even more, so it's honestly more like 12. Also, for any Deeds out there, if you're gonna take a projectile hit after you've already started a Gordo Toss, if you correct to an Up angle Toss just before getting hit, since it is slightly slower to start, you can have the neutral Gordo you just spawned take the projectile hit, then you swing to hit it a split second later, but right after the projectile had already hit so your throwing hitbox counts as the second hit on the Gordo, rather than the first, meaning it is now considered a reflected Gordo and since you 'reflected it' with your hit, it won't get smacked into you, but instead will auto-target the opponent, just like if they had hit it back at you. If anyone's ever been playing or fighting DeDeDe and you thought you interrupted his Toss with a projectile only for him to not get hit and instead have the Gordo instantly auto-target and fly directly towards you, this is why. We can pull it back slightly with up Toss to cause this weird interaction. It's ultra precise and kind of unreliable, but it's a thing you might as well go for if you know you're gonna get hit. Sometimes you'll just get out of jail free.

[@Roupization]

Was just about to comment something similar to your topline. Fullhop gordos can be useful as well, and have different properties than short hop gordos. 18, but really kinda infinite.

[@RaheemRollair]

I don’t see why King Dedede can’t just simply move the Gordo with a side tilt. He can only move it with the neutral b. There should be more possibilities if that was the case!

[@theblackbasketball]

Fr I think he should be able to hit the Gordo with his normals

[@Clepto_and_Co]

How cool would it be if dedede could do gordo shenanigans like pacman's hydrant or duck hunt's can

[@nathanlevesque7812]

he has less ways to hit it than his opponents like wtf

[@chenklazer2069]

Who can hit the gordo is dependent on who "owns" the gordo. D3 automatically possesses gordo ownership upon deployment and can only inhale it to change its trajectory. however his opponent can hit the gordo and claim ownership. D3 can only hit the gordo with strikes if the opponent hits it, claiming "ownership"

[@chenklazer2069]

@@theblackbasketball that would be cool like Abigail tires but it doesn't really help alleviate the core problems he has, only further strengthens one gimmick

[@bumberquest3031]

I can definitely see how Dedede os frustrating to play as because he has to move almost completely different than most other characters, and more times than not he is almost completely helpless against a good enough zoner. I think Dedede is mostly a superheavy buster because his range is typically better than most. A good Buff for dedede would either be a slight buff to his dash speed, less end lag on his inhale, or maybe a higher damage cap for reflecting his gordos. I played dedede since brawl and I think his poor neutral game makes him less than desirable for a lot of people. I still love him so much though.

[@lagann_logoff]

Dedede also has different Gordo angles while in the air, and they're different than his grounded options

[@williamgarrett2913]

I've mained Dedede since Sm4sh! Seeing this from such a great creator makes me happy. I picked up D3 because he's a fat penguin from some of my first played games, and I love him.

[@windowthelicker8651]

I’d storm Nintendo of Japan just for Dedede’s Brawl back air could come back

[@ThatsNotEnglish]

we have way bigger needs for buffs tbh

[@davidarruda8400]

Give him brawl down throw, instant top tier

[@MetaKnightX6]

I wouldn’t it would mean from centre stage by an aireal he can only kill from around 130% and it is better with 110%

[@Tonjit41]

MKLeo's birthday and Penguin day are the same day. Leo secret DDD main confirmed

[@stunkjuice6022]

DDD can also send gordo at different angles with c stick. How many frames you hold c stick for effects the angle as well. 1 frame c stick flicks give the fastest gordo speed(without inhaling) and the biggest arc when bouncing. he has dozens of gordo angles to choose from. still a bad character though

[@ffiiggyy]

I think the Gordos further solidify his status as a "boss" character in this game, like Bowser's Tough Guy, Ganon's Smash Attacks and Sephiroth's One Winged Angel just to name a few.

[@ButterLover-]

Ive maines him for 2 years and I hear this now!

[@brain_tonic]

Don't care which angle when 1 Falco laser deflects it all the same.

[@MetaKnightX6]

@@brain_tonic has to be well timed or aimed tho

[@averageboi]

Why is dedede so slow though? Canonically he races kirby all the time

[@gigaspin6595]

He also canonically loses to him all the time tho lol.

[@averageboi]

@@gigaspin6595 •_•

[@MetaKnightX6]

@@gigaspin6595 well Kirby is Kirby so who really cares lol

[@silvesta5027]

FUN LARRY FACT: Larry makes great content on KZbin that is both entertaining and informative

[@Richmykal1212]

When Gordo Gets Sent back At DDD: 'TOP 10 ANIME BETRAYALS'

[@yoman5029]

missed opportunity to say "RIGHT BACK AT YA!"

[@bignards3]

I'm a Dedede main, and have been since I bought Ultimate. I don't know how to describe it effectively, but there's a specific groove that Dedede can get into where he can overwhelm you with huge hitboxes, multi-jump mixups and good gordo placement, which is particularly good online. Most label him as a campy, defensive character, but his advantage state and aggression are honestly super underrated. At top level this isn't the case of course, but Dedede can absolutely stomp your average elite smasher, unless they're playing a character like ZSS who gets out of Dedede's aggro for free Also I just wanted to say, thanks for making this video, it was a fun watch!

[@jonathanpeterson2527]

1:40 props to the editor, this made me chuckle

[@scracked6980]

I’m just waiting for a Bayonetta episode to come out, because I’ve been interested in her and want to see what the Lurr thinks

[@kingdedede333]

Top 10-15 advantage, average neutral and mediocre disadvantage. Solid Mid Tier

[@ThatsNotEnglish]

top 15 advantage, terrible neutral, slightly below average disadvantage, solid low tier *

[@drakenstarcross1347]

Have you been juggled before

[@RobotnikIsSexy]

His jet hammer has armor too. D3 got a lot of quality of life improvements after smash like the reflector. Still amazed they buffed him at all. If gordo was buffed can you imagine the kind of bellyaching we'd hear?

[@GoTELuckyCharms]

You live by the Gordo, you die by the Gordo.

[@Flip-a-dip-dip]

D3 kind of frustrates me. he’s a heavy floaty With a nearly ungimpable recovery. It literally feels like he can’t die sometimes

[@Kevin-yp7yk]

Stop playing pikachu then lol just play a character with an up b oos or something

[@CoinBox170]

Dedede's actually the second fastest faller in the game. He just feels floaty because of multiple jumps

[@happycamperds9917]

I simply despise that full hop inhale covers so many options.

[@chenklazer2069]

he's one of the easier characters to 2 frame and his entire win condition relies on reactive camping and ledge trapping. everything else sucks balls

[@CoinBox170]

@@chenklazer2069 If you could help illuminate something for me. I've heard many people say that "X character is really easy too 2 frame" but how does that work if hitting them while snapping to ledge is still a 2 frame window? Is it hurtboxes or what?

[@lambchu6459]

They did my boy wrong by nerfing him in 2.0 and 3.0 patches.

[@AverageHandle_]

Gordo should be able to take more damage before going back

[@Eldoofus]

The thing with Dedede literally is that he's bad but good

[@MetaKnightX6]

Yes he is bad but somehow I see him as a potential A tier (main reason is his matchups against some high top tiers are fairly even or sometimes even in his favour e.g. vs Lucina )

[@brafy2981]

Who wouldn't grab a beer with Dedede? He's one of the boys

[@DJchoppa666]

inhale isn’t the best reflector but it is one of the best command grabs

[@Seifer_42]

DDD is my online troll character. People underestimate him and his tilts.

[@socksleeve]

That Ganondorf was shmoving, you gotta admit.

[@DoubleCFiend]

15:33 idk why but inhaling the Flare, waddling through the explosion all the way across to stage just to get stuck by Shadow Flare is extremely funny-looking to me

[@GrantCottle33]

You’re such an underrated channel, so knowledgeable about the game and great content. Keep it up and you’ll break 100k in no time 💕

[@emberpowertcg7692]

5:15 to 5:20 is the single most epic moment on you tube

[@StuicideDesigns]

I love the "subtle" use of meme sound effects. Its not in your face, and if you are not paying attention you may not hear the "Another one". Love it.

[@egon3705]

i love how you can inhale gordo forever until it gets shielded, hits you, or gets knocked off screen

[@papagoose01]

Larry is actually the new ZeRo! Just go to his video list and compare with ZeRo. I used to watch ZeRo while eating cereal last year. Now I watch Larry while eating my sandwich this year!

[@Koishi97]

Hes who?

[@papagoose01]

@@Koishi97 ZeRo. He was one of the best smash players of all time but he got cancelled. He also created content similar to Larry.

[@Iinky94]

8:23 this edit felt so satisfying to watch :'D

[@TheFluffestMango]

You never used DDD's most trolly move, inhaling the enemy while falling.

[@phoenix933]

As a Dedede main from experience he seems to struggle a lot from being juggled in the air.

[@MetaKnightX6]

Well once I get out he has strong landing options

[@Andreecals]

Im a ddd main, and one thing I think could be buffed with little issue about him and potentially change a lot is his "returning gordo" action. When someone hits your gordo back at you, if you press the attack button when the gordo is about to hit you, you grab the gordo and toss it again in the direction it came. I think that if you could control the direction of this new toss, return it quicker, get i frames/armor during the toss animation... any of these things or a combination of them would be super welcome to improve ddd's neutral. His gameplay is about forcing reactions with gordos and baiting punish atempts that could be countered by his slower, longer reaching moves. Also his dtilt is surprisingly good for the launching angle and damage, not to mention the auto bait of coming out of his crouch xD

[@anormalhumanhopefully8570]

It's still mind bloggling that one of the characters that canonically flies fast is one of the slowests in the air (same as Ridley)

[@JustChllin]

he actually has the slowest air speed in the game.

[@ChinaChamp]

Dedede Up-b most disrespectful spike in the game. Change my mind.

[@MetaKnightX6]

Sorry cannot do that

[@Molten_Pig]

I've been a Dedede main for about 10 years now. I've never agreed more with a video on him than I do with this one.

[@vicctretamaj]

Honestly, if I were to buff DDD; Forward tilt +startup and endlag reduced (12/21->10/19) 2F (49->44 FAF) 5F +damage increased +knockback increased Neutral air +Hitbox size increased on both sweet and sour spots Forward throw +knockback increased to be a viable kill throw Back throw +Knockback increased to be a viable kill throw Inhale +startup and endlag reduced (14->10 startup) 4F (74->64 FAF) 10F +grabbox increased in front of Dedede Jet Hammer +super armor while charging +charge time reduced by 1/3 My biggest concerns are that his throws aren’t reliable for killing nor do they really send far enough to set up for Ledge traps most of the time. Being able to kill would be nice while also having the side effect of if they didn’t kill you can go for the ledge trap stuff. F tilt, due to multihits is kinda weak, and the knockback does little to nothing, so I think a faster poking tool to control a good amount of space that can actually kill at reasonable %s would also help with his ground game. Nair, as you said, is actually a big flaw in his kit that I really hope they fix, but seeing as they treat Kirby characters I doubt they will (Kirby Fthrow been flawed since Day 1). And this also goes for Kirby, But the charging hammer stuff can be decent if they go about buffing them the right way, I just feel they take too long to charge, and maybe could use some more armor to make it easier to get in on someone.

[@deathpie24]

Jet Hammer has armor at any charge already

[@puffnstuff7905]

He just doesn't die

[@playaskirbyandwin267]

As a dedede main, uh Yea. I couldn’t put it any other way than the title.

[@tomyumwithnoodles469]

Please do one like this for Incineroar. He's the best bad character.

[@broom2839]

Fr. Imagine if he was actually fast.

[@jaydencooke1805]

Most incins online have bad internet and try to cheese with casual rulsets, I know from experience and let me tell you it's not fun

[@tangaps]

That DDubble at 1:42 is insane

[@moist_soup7215]

Fun fact: gordo has WAY more than 3 angles. C stick tilt let’s you micro-adjust gordo’s angle infinitely

[@schuylerschmadtke1250]

The curse of being balanced around a special

[@devin5201]

DDD is the best character... When his gimmicks work otherwise he's kind of meh, hey at least he's a heavy with some good recovery.

[@andythomas1620]

I'm sad to find out about missing penguin day

[@landddo1341]

Finally Larry plays a top tier.

[@dask7428]

that ganon was scary as fuck damn

[@waifu27]

dedede main here. Thanks for giving the king some representation

[@Kenzoah]

I’m glad you ran into that Gannon cuz of all that shit y’all were talking about the tier list 😂

[@Ahahashir]

He's gonna be more reliant on Gordo now.

[@PourLeCorps]

The spongebob walking sound😹😹

[@DagothUr69]

This is how you know a smash character is actually good: if theyre good with dedede or not

[@JvoltTheDumbStupidBall]

why is gordo so easy to knock back in smash bros when you cant move it at all in the kirby games i remember it being in?

[@matthewshinsato7900]

Because smash games are not Canon to the home franchise

[@Senketsujin]

Bro that ledge trap is disgusting, I love it.

[@addisonjacoby]

I thought D3 was an eagle. Shows how much I know.

[@christophersmith5736]

Catan on switch sounds so amazing.

[@jmzt3187]

the URL says "5UUc" at the end SUUC

[@ldj7039]

DeDeDe's off-stage aerial game in advantage his hella versatile. you can schmix for days

[@wonderful_whiscash9534]

What? The only thing he can do offstage is fair or bair, better to stay onstage and ledgetrap

[@1wigbert]

>Didn't even mention down-tilt out of shield.

[@dent5672]

I only picked up D3 after the recent patch but there's no friggin way hes the worst heavy! His Uair beats Ganons Down B in the air so that alone takes away one of Ganons only good options coming down from the sky. D3's fox trot and wave dance are insanely easy to pull off, he really turns on a dime. So he can move on the ground pretty quickly and mix up his movement patterns. Can even trip up fast characters. Once he's in the air, while slowing the pace, D3's ability to "hover" with extra jumps and hit with Fair/Bair is under rated. Or tomahawk grab. Or Gordo in medium range to cover the landing. Above avg turn-around grab. Again, his Uair is an incredible kill option now even if the opponent DI's. He has his problems but he ain't the worst heavy weight that's for sure!

[@PrecludeLP]

@12:10 Dedede's Nair, Up Smash, and Down Smash have transcendent priority just like Wolf's Laser. www.ssbwiki.com/Priority . That Nair is better than you're making it out to be here. That is, you literally can not trade or clank with it.

[@birdguy9864]

Thanks man for this

[@AverageDoctor345]

11:50 to add to this, Dedede's nair has a unique weakness in that it has transcendent priority (for some reason) meaning that it will never clank with things like weak projectiles and attacks, and will instead always get beaten out by them.

[@mewtwomazter5736]

Actually the initial hit of nair can beat out Snake's up-smash pretty consistently without damaging D3, though Idk if that's something most of the cast can do already (and is probably the only thing nair has priority over with in the first place.)

[@jemarshaw4986]

I feel like Larry see me asking for Rob in every video to talk about him but the scrolls past it

[@HoppingBird]

A lesser know fact is the c stick changed the gordo angle very slightly, which actually has huge implications for optimal edgetrapping, it’s honestly pretty ridiculous

[@JustChllin]

a lesser known fact? every DDD main knows that

[@jaydenheimo8040]

that squidward waddle sound and laugh really got me after you double dipped that jigglypuff

[@lucinamain6861]

my shitter tier list has king dedede as the 2nd best character in the game

[@user-jc2jp7rd9f]

who's first?

[@lucinamain6861]

@@user-jc2jp7rd9f isabelle

[@MrGameguyC]

I'm glad someone brought up that you can Tilt and Smash inputs on Gordos. Giving Dedede at least 6 ways of launching it.

[@ThatsNotEnglish]

Dedede has so many slight variations in gordo toss that I'm pretty sure he has at least 50-100.

[@michaelschnebeli3856]

another thing too, if you re-input sideB you can catch the gordo and throw it back too. great for when people want to punish an inhale after hitting it back because he swings the hammer again.

[@sterling8389]

Fun fact, if you get the right timing, you can catch a reflected Gordo and hit it back at whatever angle you want

[@astralbirthvoid0]

Pro tip: play Masked Dedede, or Roar of Dedede while playing makes you one of the best player in the world, however to do that, you need to perfectly know Dedede's character, love Dedede in general and becoming Dedede, then you're unstoppable and ready to clobbah that there ennemy.

[@fawfuI_]

one important thing about DDD larry didn't mention is that when he jumps, his hurtbox gets significantly bigger so if you jump too early when getting launched off stage you can actually end up dying a lot earlier

[@lambchu6459]

Your lack of down throw up airs disturbs me lol also down smash is pretty sick

[@malamamarket9204]

as a DDD main i am happy to see this

[@stixsis4656]

I kinda understand why he's so bad in some areas. They wanted him to be a monster when ledge trapping so they made him weaker in some area but they went too far. He has the worst air speed in the game, his normals are super slow compared to the rest of the cast, next to DK and Gannondorf Dedede probably has the 3rd worst disadvantage state in the game, and despite his gameplan of wanted to take you to the ledge and keeping you there, he is one of the few heavyweight characters that has no kill throw. Man I just want Dedede to be good in at least one game

[@Mattroid99]

His disadvantage is far from being one of the worst in the game. I'd say is relatively fine, he has a lot of mixups with his jump, command grab and one of the best ff airdodges in the game

[@theblackbasketball]

He was good in Brawl but that’s about it 😔

[@Pslamist]

He has the worst air speed, but he has the actual highest fall speed.

[@memenazi7078]

F

[@chenklazer2069]

@@Mattroid99 DK's is much worse. at least D3 has a good recovery

[@shinygekkouga52]

This is pretty well timed considering Pop Nifty made Top 8 recently.

[@Doberbull]

Dedede’s worst matchup is Mario in my opinion. Fireball counters gordo completely

[@Acerock7]

Thanks for the breakdown!

[@Abomdosnow]

on the topic of Kirby characters, id love to see your thoughts on Ultimate Meta Knight

[@w1l1]

tldr: offline = bad online = broken

[@gatolf2]

I use to watch one of the big dedede youtubers and one of them said that his best out of shield is actually upsmash

[@MetaKnightX6]

Bruh rlly lol

[@mannx2_495]

His Down B is underrated (literally watch my video on it, you’ll ALL SEE)

[@memenazi7078]

I believe you, the “pros” like to say lots of moves are bad with no creative thoughts

[@chenklazer2069]

@@memenazi7078 they're either just bad or they know what they're doing and just caught you off guard at the ledge with a move you never suspected

[@blazefactor6849]

@@memenazi7078 I mean, usually when players who know what they're talking about say a move is bad, they tend to mean that the move is not particularly effective in comparison with other similar moves, or just doesn't have a lot of use in a character's kit. Just saying "be creative" doesn't make a bad move good. With D3's down-b, it's very slow, laggy, and while it does hit pretty hard, it limits your movement even harder than normal D3. This means it isn't useful very often, but it still can be used in some situations, just not that many.

[@JointedCrab]

How can you not love DDD

[@MrToxicB1izzard]

YES! I suggested it and you did it! Probably not because of my comment but I'm still hype about this video

[@JTF544]

I love watching him just do basic ddd shit and it works

[@Justpassingby204]

True