Laser Jammer Laws: USA & Canada

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[@ryantoomey611]

A "fix-it ticket" with no points is much better than the fine for a speeding ticket! Just use them as "parking sensors," which are NOT illegal.

[@arabiantxn]

Issue is ( I don't know ) But I do believe this is NOT a Fixit Ticket its more of an Impound / Seizure your car

[@bryancoke2602]

What would be better than a laser jammer is a full compliment of AGM 88 Harm or Hellfire missles. Pisses me off everytime I see a cop running radar who is himself running 10-15mph over the speed limit. They feel they have the 'right' to break the very law they are trying enforce. Besides for the most part speeding tickets are not about safety, they are designed as a large, easy source of income for towns and cities.

[@Marva123]

That is exactly how I feel, just screwing over the taxpayer. Half the crime is caused by these crooked departments in so called "police forces"

[@Sara-L]

That's actually how they catch the worst speeders. They put themselves at the upper limit of how fast you can travel (4-5mph over posted limit) and if you pass them you're in trouble.

[@Izzy8u]

The working middle class, let’s fine them more. Smh sad truth. Tech is helping us some, jammers, smart phone recording, dash cams, etc

[@moncorp1]

Cops are as crooked as anyone else.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

go the speed limit if you don't want a ticket simple as that

[@benjaminward5295]

Again you give information that matters. Thanks for the video.

[@mexicub]

Just to be clear, a couple, does not mean more than 2 or less than 2, it means 2.

[@EthanNoble]

Could you do a demonstration where you'd slow down and turn your jammer off with the stinger vip? I'd like to see how quickly one could react.

[@VortexRadar]

+EthanNoble sure, good idea

[@EthanNoble]

Vortex Radar Cool thanks! I live in Illinois and would like to see it in action

[@loiswidmyer7665]

nice talk ' DEKE'

[@whpony96]

So, the Officer is looking through a scope and targeting you and he activates the laser. You notice it on you jammer and you slam on your brakes to drop speed. So, You don't think hes going to see the nose dive of your vehicle? SMH....

[@Jondomber]

1. You should never slam on your brake 2. They still won't have your speed

[@sacp2273]

Love that you're local in my home town! I just got a Radenso Pro SE to replace my 20yo Bell Xti. It was great, but now goes off with every new vehicle going past for obvious reasons. Love the Radenso. Now it's time for some Lidar jammers! Weeee~

[@VortexRadar]

Nice! That should be a massive upgrade for you then, haha. :D Jammers are definitely next! The WSP likes to use laser all up and down the highways and the city police like to use it as well. I've been shot both in the front and rear around Seattle so it'd be good to have protection for both sides of your car. ;)

[@danh9676]

Radar deflecting paint. Stealth car

[@craigmayson9810]

Dan H WAIT!!!! WHAT????

[@A42yearoldARAB]

of course they are not allowed here in mn like everything else. 50% tint what a joke

[@Tactical_Turtle]

50%???? Holy shit man... Here in TN we're a like 30-35% if memory serves.

[@A42yearoldARAB]

yeah useless lol I have 5% in the back and like 30 up front

[@ppipowerclass]

That blows :( They just changed the tint laws here in Ohio a couple years ago. Only the driver / passenger windows need to be 50% now, any other window can be as dark as you want ( including the windshield ). I have gotten enough tint tickets already, so feel you, for sure.

[@jmil2204]

I'm in California.... 70% for the front.... But I have 20 anyway. One fix it ticket in the last two years.

[@A42yearoldARAB]

haha that part is true I can't see shit out the back windows there 5%. But I do have a back up cam and parking sensors.

[@TheRoguelement]

Just so you know guys trying to come down in your Boss Mustang from a 130mph jolt to the speed limit in 3 seconds not only will you be buying new tires because you flat spotted them nailing the brakes to come down to 60mph is just silly. But if your driving around. 75 mph and you get laserd just let off the gas then flip off the jammer .so he can get a read on you slowing down. .

[@gregorysagegreene]

As a trucker, the places I see these sneaky buggers sit is just egregrious and should be labelled as predatory, entrapment, and unconstitutional. It's all just 'city money'.

[@kenshinhimura9387]

It should be illegal for cops to track a drivers speed in the first place.

[@xXdoesitstartXx]

here we have a perfect example of stupidity

[@jrock1520]

It should be illegal for you to mooch off our oxygen.

[@Adam.Reader14]

I just think that "speed traps", should be illegal or not done at all. Having speed traps is the equivalent of hosting an A.A. meeting inside a bar during happy hour. They just position themselves in spots, where the speed limit might be 25mph and you're doing 34mph or higher, just so that the Department can pull in revenue. I know they don't have a "quota", it's just go to this spot and for 3-4hrs and give as many tickets as possible.

[@Sara-L]

Speed traps don't violate your rights. Driving is not a right... And driving recklessly isn't even a privilege. it's a crime.

[@Zeakthecat]

eh i think its better to let them do it, but i don't personally like police checkpoints and weigh stations because its basically against due process. you are innocent till proven guilty in a court of law, however the police assume guilt before innocence which is kinda unconstitutional.

[@daklakdigital3691]

Beltronics of Mississauga, was a radar detector manufacturing company owned by the wife of a former mayor of Toronto (Lastman). Ontario is a detector banned province. Way back I was arrested for messing with radar speed detectors. I stood by the side of the road, about a 100 yards from the cop, shaking my ring of keys. The cop (police lay charges in Ontario) and I went to court. He gave his story, and on cross examination my lawyer asked had the cop ever said the radar guns can only detect vehicles. He confirmed I was on foot and only saw me from his car. The cop also said he couldn't prove what my keys did as he couldn't shake my keys and observe the trap at the same time. The judge, in summing up, said he had heard hundreds of police state that traps only could detect vehicles and he said he believed the mass against a single cop - and found me not guilty.

[@williambeckman6900]

It might be wise to ask the police department if they have been issued a license to operate the laser devices in court. The frequency of light used for speed detection is also used by opthalmologists to treat some eye diseases. Consider this to be a guy on the side of the road playing doctor without a license.Technically the police are guilty of the same crime that the FAA charges people with that shine lasers into the cockpit of airplanes which have an effect on the eyesight of the pilot. My guess nobody ever mentioned these details in a court of law.

[@amritpal79]

William Beckman you would have to prove intent

[@jimnielsen4076]

Target of the laser is the front license plate of the vehicle or where it would be. Not the driver or a windshield. Judge would not find your eye dr argument compelling.

[@derrickmcfall8702]

The target of my laser pointer is the wing of the plane, not the cockpit. Whoops, no intent here.

[@stevenbryant4718]

" technically" LOL

[@Geh4h]

Great channel! Very detailed and informative videos. Awesome! I glad I'm subscribed.

[@heavyhauldude9914]

In Quebec, it's a 700$ ticket, they also seize the equipment and if it can't be removed roadside, the tow the vehicle to have it professionally removed at your expense... It's not a fix it ticket here at all!!!

[@sanjaypatel902]

RIP Texas

[@alowatsakima8950]

Why don't the manufacturers build their units with adjustable default to turn it off?

[@skylerdylan1005]

I live in Alberta Canada and I'm thinking of getting a jammer. Although having the laser jammer is legal, Ive heard that police could charge someone with obstruction of justice for interfering with the laser signal

[@VortexRadar]

That’s a common fear. I’ve never seen it. Use your jammers properly (quickly slow down and kill your jammers) and you’ll be alright.

[@farisalnahhas363]

someone link me the video about the guy driving around with his jammer turned on 24/7 please

[@FenixxxKid]

Saitama let me know if you find it too lol

[@natedoglara]

I'm interested

[@tstproductions2913]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWXJc41joqqtq8U It's not the police footage, but the comments and jail time is nuts.

[@MrHotroddoc]

It's a misdemeanor in Oklahoma FYI. They can arrest you, what I was told the other day and they will remove them from your car.

[@Maroco918]

You are so right about oklahoma. My buddy got his 370z impounded and he was in jail for the weekend. The highway patrol down here HATE jammers

[@idealized_]

@@Maroco918 holy shit, how did he get caught?

[@emp0rizzle]

Since there are so many new driver aids in new cars. I figure they would be able to put into market a laser based system that is marketed as a driver collision aid that doubles as a jammer in normal operations. You're not operating a laser jammer, you're operating a collision avoidance device.

[@VortexRadar]

Ironically enough, the ALP's are actually sold as and come as parking sensors, not as laser jammers. :)

[@emp0rizzle]

Vortex Radar and now all they need to do is assemble a crack legal and team to challenge laser equipment laws so legal precedence can be established.

[@BaconatorJames]

That irony also means that my car dealership (Canada, east coast) will install them as such, so I don't violate my car's warranty, and if pulled over, a simple tap of the button means I don't have to get a $1k fine and have my car towed and have the jammers removed. It's not the hardware that's illegal now, it's the software running it. Oh and I also get parking sensors haha.

[@MoonLiteNite]

could also be doubled up as an antitheft device

[@BansheeZR1]

In Ontario, Canada jammers are considered interference which is a criminal offence. If you can't hand over the equipment on the spot, they can confiscate your car.

[@VortexRadar]

+Bob White That's crazy

[@BansheeZR1]

+Vortex Radar I've been viewing your videos with great interest to see if I can find a solution that will work for me. A detector in the windshield is too visible so an installed unit would make more sense. Just in case, some guys with installed units will carry a cheap portable one in case they get detected and hand it over in that scenario. Otherwise, the OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) will confiscate the car. BTW Your videos are very informative and very well done.

[@VortexRadar]

Ah yeah, a hidden remote unit would be the way to go. An STi-R Plus is your more affordable option. Good range and GPS lockouts, but not so good blind spot filtering. The Stinger VIP is your other option and it's the whole package with good blind spot filtering, but it costs more. I've been running the Stinger lately and have been quite impressed. Had some pretty big distance saves yesterday. :)

[@santoscortes9656]

Keep a cheap one to hand over lol

[@dbzfan4evermj233]

I’m from Illinois and still use them idgf about 12 I haven never got a ticket in my life

[@Git_Dat_Motivation]

im in illinois too, tryina get this asap

[@scsolutions]

Not to get into lawyering too much, but the question i always have is: What if you are traveling through a state? Obviously these are hard wired so you cant just get out and remove them easily. Just like anything else illegal about your car ( say dark tint that legal in your state but not legal in the next state or license plate front/back vs not required in your state ).

[@VortexRadar]

+scsolutions They ship as parking sensors and you can use them as such as needed.

[@payambakhshi1498]

Radar detectors and laser jammers are illegal in passenger cars in the state of North Carolina.

[@VortexRadar]

Could you cite the law you’re referring to please?

[@greatestkiller13]

Has any states been added since this video was made?

[@Iucky225]

Came here looking for Canada info, but just FYI when you say it's a fix it ticket with no points, that's not necessarily true. In Colorado it's a Class 2 Traffic Offense, that's the same severity as Careless or Reckless driving, and you can face 10-90 days in jail for a first offense for any Class 2 Traffic Offense. Now most likely you'll get off with a fine and the offense could have a 3 point assessment (42-2-127 (r) Conviction of violations not listed in this subsection (5) while driving a moving vehicle... 3 points)

[@CFFFU]

In Ontario & Quebec, the police will seize the radar/laser with about $300 fine

[@justinjones6264]

it's 600 now, but your laser jammers are fine only radar in Quebec is illegal.

[@ManufacturedLack]

Code is not Law.

[@umberct]

At $4.00 gallon or higher, I ain’t speeding… unless I get a 24% raise, just like Congres just issued to themselves.

[@rogerhudson9732]

The video on the British laser jammer law missed a number of points. In the UK using a jammer is not a traffic offense , it's 'perverting the course of justice', like lying under oath in court, but the usual penalty is only months in prison not the 14 year maximum. If the police suspect jamming (no speed reading) a lorry takes your car, impounded, to the police garage for a full search. If a fixed speed camera catches someone and the driver gets someone else to claim they were driving and take the penalty that is also 'perverting' and 2 members of parliament have gone to prison for doing it. In the small UK GPS mapping is so good you can get devices that show the speed limit for that exact position on the road next to your precise speed, no need to be over the limit.

[@VortexRadar]

Thank you for contributing and sharing a bunch of additional helpful information!

[@jamis601]

Buy show plates, a detector and jammer and a new exhaust manifold and never stop 👌

[@pmcpmc8005]

In Pennsylvania only PA State Police are allowed to use Radar and Lasers. Local police are not allowed to use Radar or Laser. So only use your devices on the Interstate or areas patrolled by the State Police in PA.

[@RandomDude989]

Can you do an update on this? Been trying to see if these are legal in Michigan.

[@joeglennaz]

Great sound quality on your video. Do you mind if I ask you? What kind of make you using? So many KZbin videos have horrible sound that I don’t know why people just don’t invest in a great Lapala Mike I’m just wondering if yours is expensive and something special or it’s just a run-of-the-mill Mike? I’m also wondering if it’s wireless or recorded. Thank you.

[@VortexRadar]

In this video it was just a simple lav mic as you can see on my chest. It was years ago so I’m not sure if the mic was plugged directly into the camera or into the external recorder I use now.

[@HotOneRecordz]

I wonder what happens if I'm from Arizona and driving through California if they can still issue a fix it ticket? 🤔

[@VortexRadar]

IANAL, but I'd they'd give you a ticket regardless

[@lorddjj]

what about Florida? I've seen very different info everywhere

[@jstanovic]

has anyone ever been charged with obstructing?

[@GetOutsideYourself]

Doesn't it look suspicious if they see your nose dip down to brake if shooting from the front, or your brake lights go on if from the rear?

[@oneslackr]

Unless the cop is completely hidden who is to say that you didn't just see him out there running radar or laser & decided to slow down? What's suspicious about that? It's not illegal to apply your brakes. What gets me are the idiots that I've almost run into on the freeway who all of a sudden panic & jump on their brakes when they see a cop & they weren't even speeding! They were driving at the speed limit or below. SMH.

[@logan_kes]

Oneslackr prius’ smh 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@oneslackr]

@@logan_kes : Prius, one of the ugliest cars made. Prius drivers try to eke out every last mpg or they think they're saving the planet by driving one. Most of them don't realize the finite resources/metals that are used & depleted in order to make the batteries for their hybrid (applies to electric cars too), batteries which aren't easily recyclable & are toxic to the environment when they wear out & need to be disposed of. So much for their environmentally friendly car that is actually worse for the environment in the long run than gasoline powered cars.

[@gabou1370]

getting caught with a radar in canada is 500-1000$ fine and they confiscate it.. jammers are illegal but i don't know if you get a fine here or not,, :/

[@ganjabonen416]

Are these laser jammers legal in florida, i have found mixed info and can not find a reliable answer.

[@GluedBarstool]

Is it legal to have a radar system in your car (police radar, not a detector)

[@AdrianJayeOnline]

In Canada, it's NOT a fix-it-ticket, it's considered a felony a major ticket and points, FOR JAMMERS, radar detectors not so harsh, but again a big ticket, it's also treated as speeding and confiscation of the device, basically in Canada your advise is incorrect

[@VortexRadar]

Did I say that was the case for Canada? If so you’re right that was my mistake. I haven’t rewatched the double check. That is the case for the US, but things are stricter in Canada, especially in Ontario, for sure.

[@geoffreylee5199]

Where illegal, the authorities say the jammers can be detected.

[@ozzmet31]

What are the effects on people's eyes that they use putting a laser in your eyesto determine your speed

[@supersage789]

I like every one of ur video, can you recommend me what radar detector to get , a laser jammer, immune to radar detector detectors. I am in Canada

[@lawdogdaddyusa1255]

In my state radar or laser merely confirm the officers visual determination of the vehicles speed. It takes no radar nothing for them to write a ticket. They are considered expert judges of speed when they graduate the police academy

[@chrisclayton6798]

Wow.. and what state would that be if you don't mind me asking?

[@lawdogdaddyusa1255]

@@chrisclayton6798 that is many states. I am certified in 3 states it is that away In 2. In many states officers are expert judges of speed

[@Roberto7474001]

Are there any (good) laser jammers that are portable like a radar detector so i can use it on different cars? Thanks!

[@VortexRadar]

Portable? Yes. Good? Ehhh... www.rdforum.org/showthread.php?t=53127 www.alf-laserdetector.com.tw/en/product7.html

[@cyberbeast44]

Goddamn Saskatchewan has great laws I like this. we also don't need a front plate

[@JohnDoe-gm5qr]

Why are radar detectors only illegal in Virginia? I remember going to Florida with my Uncle and when entering Virginia it was the only state where they would pull you over if you have one. The will confiscate radar detectors in Virginia but only if you are using one. They have some sort of signature that gives them away and I have heard of some devices being mistaken as radar detectors but not confiscated (after concluding that it is not a radar detector). They will not stop you if you have one not powered on but take it down and put it away until you leave Virginia.

[@VortexRadar]

It's the state law in VA which is different than elsewhere in the country.

[@davepetrakos475]

Seal it in a US mail bag with proper postage and address before the officer gets to your car. If it's your address, have a relatives name on it.

[@corruption1724]

Would a laser jammer be necessary for a motorcycle considering it has such a small profile? Can police get a good reading on a bike to justify buying a jammer unit?

[@VortexRadar]

+Dale Nutter Definitelu helpful for motorcycles too. Laser guns can get readings off of bicycles too which are even smaller.

[@danielcurtin7616]

If your bike has a headlight then yes they can get a reading with pretty much any laser.

[@jonreedy467]

You should do an update video on this!

[@VortexRadar]

What laws have changed since?

[@20teamplayer]

Will they try to confiscate the jammers? If so, what would your defense be?

[@ryantoomey611]

What about radar jammers? Can you use them if laser jammers are illegal?

[@davepetrakos475]

Without knowing the language each state uses, I would say using the device is as legal as speeding - avoid drawing attention to yourself.

[@douglasmcgee6610]

For those states that is illegal to have them can they give you a ticket if you’re just passing through to go to another state?

[@VortexRadar]

It matters what staye you’re in, not what state you’re from.

[@ThatOneChannelinAZ]

That Looks like Seattle Behind you. Lake Union Gas Works park?

[@VortexRadar]

Yep! Good eye 👍

[@BILLUPS811]

Jammers are lawful everywhere. They are not legal everywhere, however.

[@tulsatombob2769]

I'd prefer to use rear firing rockets that seek out Police Radar Guns while speeding thru a School Zone.

[@usnva5638]

AGM-88 HARM

[@stevenbryant4718]

NOT A USEFUL PERSON THIS BOB

[@unknown-kz9ei]

Why on earth will you speed thru a school zone?

[@Maxime_K-G]

I don't even understand why they would be legal in the first place.

[@Duvallmd]

All you are doing is transmitting light in a specific frequency. You might as well ban flashlights. Radar detectors are just radio receivers that listen to X, K and Ka bands.

[@abby11118]

Hello, I was wondering if there is an available list of police radar frequencies by band and what radar gun types they correspond to? Also I would like to know what if any limitations the guns have and where the are best suited for (terrain, weather etc). I know you mentioned somewhere that a K band 34.7 was a stalker gun, but I know there are others and I really don't know which guns are better for certain areas etc. Maybe certain ones are harder to detect?

[@VortexRadar]

+Alfred Andresen MPH is 33.8, Stalker is 34.7, Decatur and Kustom are 35.5. There are some differences between the different guns, but it's not something that I've gone into much.

[@abby11118]

OK thanks.

[@NKaumans]

Yes, Ka band 35.5 is one of the most difficult bands for detectors. Here's an article explaining the reason. radartest.blogspot.com/2009/08/why-ka-band-is-headache-for-radar_25.html?m=1

[@abby11118]

OK thanks

[@larryholman7561]

Would be nice if jammers were gps enabled and automatically turn off when you get below the speed limit.

[@VortexRadar]

Some do, but they don’t always have the correct speed limit, they don’t have the limit for all roads, they don’t take into account temporary changes due to construction or whatever and so they can kill too early, etc. You can do it, but it’s not perfect.

[@tomdickharryjane]

Good unbiased common sense.

[@melissabender5114]

I talked to a police officer in Florida he said it’s illegal there

[@2024speedracer]

Another cop that does not know the Laws.

[@ozzythekidXP]

I’m against having those jammers or scanners you know what I mean?

[@bdeale3314]

I've got a C7 Vette. The car is really low....so I understand that I'll want to mount the sensors as high up in the grill as possible. I'm confused on the TX sensor....it's a significant add in price. What does that extra cost get me....sorry, I don't understand the need for an additional/different sensor. If you could spend a few minutes to explain...or perhaps I just missed the video. THANK YOU

[@VortexRadar]

Here you go sir: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGiVlWWFd8Sgjc0 :)

[@QuickMadeUpName]

Can you use a radar detector and a laser jammer at the same time? Will they both work or will one cause the other to have issues?

[@VortexRadar]

They work together just fine and that's actually how they're designed to be used.

[@LS7chevy]

Why is Virginia red? Thanks for the information. What happens if a person is caught with a laser jammer in Texas? Is it still just fix it ticket?

[@VortexRadar]

+Anthony Denton It's red because radar detectors are illegal there too, not just laser jammers. Here's some detailed info about Texas: www.rdforum.org/showthread.php?t=4421

[@ProbablySky]

Good info, thanks.

[@tydontdy3459]

So would Matte paint be beneficial to avoid laser readings? Since the paint isn't reflective?

[@VortexRadar]

In theory, but not in practice

[@Jimbo-hh8bk]

Looks like The Matrix glasses

[@JeffisWinning]

Wow they're legal in Alabama? Nothing fun is legal here, I am shocked!

[@locascioantonino]

How about if I wear my glasses he can’t see

[@PocketfleetDS]

Penalty includes a minimum fine of $350 in Manitoba, $170 in Ontario, and $650 in Quebec, and the radar detector will be confiscated.

[@santoscortes9656]

Keep your expensive one and a cheap one. If they try to confiscate give them the cheap one

[@lidell56]

in an area where jammers are illegal will an officer know if you slow down before turning off? Will his laser show he is being jammed with any lasers now in use? Thanks.

[@VortexRadar]

Just slow down and kill your jammers ASAP and you'll generally be fine. Some guns do have jam codes, but they throw jam codes pretty regularly and the better jammers are designed to avoid throwing them in the first place.

[@DreadlockDrummer]

i live in BC and travel to alberta a lot, this is good to know =)

[@sigmasafety]

DreadlockDrummer they are not legal in BC. You can be charged with interfering with police officers duties which is a very serious offence.

[@DreadlockDrummer]

Sigma Safety Corp. Well, i just spent a few minutes looking on google, and a post from 2012 said that they were legal to install but illegal to use, but then i found a post from 2015 saying "There is no federal law in Canada against the ownership or use of a laser jammer. It is simply an infrared transceiver (receive and transmit with laser diodes) using Class 1M eye-safe pulsed laser with 904nm wavelength."

[@sigmasafety]

DreadlockDrummer The act of using it to intentionally interfere with a police officer's duties is an offense. It actually has nothing to do with the jammer itself, but rather the act of jamming police LIDAR, therefore effectively interfering with the police's ability to do their job.

[@BaconatorJames]

The ALP are actually parking sensors and totally legal to install. They come with firmware that allows you to switch (instantly) between jamming and parking modes. So this means you can not only get them legally installed, but the hardware itself is not illegal either, anywhere in Canada or the US. I'm sure there's a way they can get you to court for it if they suspect you used it for jamming, but just thinking about their legal responsibility in proving you actually jammed them (they have to prove you DID jam them, it's not just assumed you did because you could have), I think we're safe with ALP for a while. I haven't ordered mine yet, but I'm going to get the optional bluetooth unit so it just goes to my phone instead of having friggin sirens and lights going off all the time.

[@dickswagging8033]

Radar detectors are 100% legal in BC..... also something good to know, I was going down the hill heading into kamloops. I got hit doing 140km past the break check. I was pulled over and ticketed. About a week later I got a letter from ICBC saying I do not have to pay the ticket because the officer was radar detecting at the bottom of a hill that had a more than 60° slope.

[@necrojones]

For Canada this video is wrong about Quebec. There are no direct laws against laser jammers, there are laws against radar detectors specifically and anti-photo radar but to this date, nothing has ever been made law against Laser Jammers here. (I use my AL priority all the time in the summer, even had a couple of cops smile when I'm jamming them.)

[@VortexRadar]

I just looked it up and according to this, jammers are illegal in Quebec. www.radardetector.net/forums/laser-jammers-general/47343-canadian-laser-jammer-laws.html If the police know they’re being jammed, you’re not using your jammers properly. When shot, quickly slow down and kill your jammers. It’s really important.

[@justinjones6264]

Forums are nice and all but it's a good idea to actually hit the source as really they are just mostly options. i.e. the highway safety code (legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/ShowDoc/cs/C-24.2) in Quebec. Section 251 stats the following: No person may (1) install a radar warning device, have a radar warning device installed or in any way place a radar warning device in a road vehicle; (2) place any object or have any object placed on a road vehicle, or apply any material or have any material applied to a road vehicle, that is capable of interfering in any way with the operation of a photo radar device or a red light camera system or with the recording of registration plate information by the camera of such a radar device or camera system They say nothing directly regarding Laser equipment.

[@justinjones6264]

For places like Ontario they built the language so it avoids specifics there by encompassing laser equipment. The highway safety act (www.ontariohighwaytrafficact.com/part-6-equipment/speed-measuring-warning-devices-sect-t707.html) built this provision for this.

[@justinjones6264]

and as to using the jammers, you should always slow down unless you want a ticket just because, but you don't have to turn them off in places they arn't illegal for fear of someone making them illegal if you use them too much.. The cost of a jammer stops the average driver from picking one up, most people would rather just pay the fine and accept the punishment. They won't build a law against it directly, it will be because of a court case which forces the discussion, nothing less.

[@justinjones6264]

Last point, besides the small debate, I really do like your videos. They are concise and accurate. Thank you for showing the public clearly how the gear works.

[@isettech]

The video does not even bother to mention how easy it is for law enforcement to detect jamming in states where they are illegal. Jammers work by emitting pulsed IR light. An IR dashcam in a law enforcement vehicle will clearly show the jammer response to the laser. It is a visual game of Marco Polo and can be used as evidence in your court case. Be aware of states upping the game where jammers are illegal. Penalties can be high as an additional infraction.

[@CFFFU]

Hey how about doing a test with test difference with triple head vs dual head + VPR

[@VortexRadar]

Wish granted! www.vortexradar.com/2019/05/testing-the-best-laser-jammers-of-2019/

[@Git_Dat_Motivation]

does this block all radars(ka,k,x,bands) or just laser guns?

[@VortexRadar]

It can detect radar and block laser.

[@abby11118]

Not to get off the subject of this thread too much, but I wanted to ask something. Yesterday I was on a long rural highway. Speed limit 65, but I was going 60. My Whistler gave me a K band alert which turned out to be about 3 miles from the target (a state police car in the median facing towards traffic). It was a low signal until I crested a hill past some trees then the signal was maxed, but still a mile before I saw the cop. I was wondering if when the signal maxed if I would have been in the clocking range or is there a certain footage when that happens?

[@ZHGAmingAllTheWay]

Alfred Andresen about .08 miles is the killzone

[@richrumble]

One can own a radar detector (Uniden actually makes them in Mississauga) in Ontario - it just can’t be used.

[@minaturk1]

can you please post something from michigan law to make sure its legal in michigan

[@VortexRadar]

I just Googled it and one of the first results talks about how radar detectors specifically are legal. www.michigan.gov/msp/0,4643,7-123-1586_27094-73839--,00.html I don't see anything about laser jammers, but I'm sure you could do a little digging as well and see what you find. :)

[@bneyens]

2:07 - I know for sure that is not the extent of the punishment in Colorado. Your car can be impounded on the side of the road, and yes you must "fix it" but they won't let you drive it until it's fixed. I did a ride along with my CSP friend and asked him that exact question. I would imagine the penalties vary from state to state, it's not always a "small ticket". You can drive away with a speeding ticket, but you can't drive away with "illegal equipment". I would say that makes an illegal equipment ticket worse than a speeding ticket, IMO. Sucks I live in CO (not really). But it's good to know you can just switch it off, slow down, and that works. I never wanted to risk it and find out the hard way. When I get my new car it might be time for a laser jammer = ]

[@1972dsrai]

In the uk someone was recently jailed for using a jammer. London, uk

[@1972dsrai]

@Rama Nrusimhadevara I posted this nearly a year ago so...

[@jayxtreme6]

You are incorrect about the legality of laser jammers in Canada. Radar detectors are indeed on legal in the western most 3 provinces, but laser jammers are legal everywhere in Canada. The reason is that laser jammers in Canada basically fall under the category of infrared LEDs, which are legal to use no matter the context. That's basically all a laser jammer is, an infrared LED.

[@VortexRadar]

+jayxtreme6 Could you please link me to some additional information on that?

[@jayxtreme6]

You won't find anything explicit on the subject, but the law is really clear. Laser detectors/jammers are class 1m eye-safe laser transceivers, operating at ~900nm. This means you have unlimited freedom to both transmit and receive light at that frequency. The legal-to-english translation is: you are allowed to shine a flashlight, and you are allowed to use a camera. That's unlike the radar world which requires licenses to operate, and surveys of areas that can accurately use radars and etc. When it comes to Lidar guns/laser jammers, the police is shining a light at you, so you're shining a light back at them. You could leave your jammer on and there is nothing they could do about it (and for the same reason, laser jamming will never be illegal in Canada).

[@VortexRadar]

I'm not a lawyer and since I'm not as familiar with Canada, I'm going by what I have heard from others... so I did a little research. Here's the law in Ontario. www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h08#BK139 If you read over Sec 79 (1), you'll see why radar detectors and laser jammers are illegal. In (3) you'll see they can confiscate such a device as well. Reading over that, it sounds pretty explicit to me. That's just Ontario. You could google around for the other provinces if you like.

[@l8terdudes1]

Do you know of any places/shops where they install laser jammers in california?

[@VortexRadar]

+l8terdudes1 It's be best to ask on RDF for local recommendations.

[@abruptlyblunt]

the problem is if you live in a state where they are illegal like California where i live no online sellers will even ship a jammer to you!!!

[@over00lordunknown12]

1:33 I was _literally_ thinking "Cool. :)"...

[@Paul-gz5dp]

The last time I was ticketed for speeding, one of these devices would not have helped me, as I was going 5 under the posted limit. I was ticketed for the guy that passed me. I would like to know how to keep from getting fined for going under the posted limit.

[@VortexRadar]

Do you have a dashcam so you can prove what happened in court?

[@luckytrader8551]

Will laser jammers work with speed cameras?

[@VortexRadar]

Speed cameras use lots of different techniques to get speed, depending on the model. A few do use laser, but most don't.

[@gabrielmoralesvelez]

Thanks for the video. Is this information still valid? Or something has changed?

[@VortexRadar]

I’m not aware of any changes since

[@gabrielmoralesvelez]

@@VortexRadar thanks

[@ar_2015]

@@VortexRadar In Cali it is a misdemeanor if you run 4 heads

[@VortexRadar]

@@ar_2015 www.rdforum.org/threads/63098/

[@slotsluts2694]

If a police officer uses a laser and you have a jamming in your car can he pull you over even though he did not get a speed on your car and he figures you have a laser Jammer in your car can you get pulled over

[@VortexRadar]

If you use your jammers incorrectly like that then yes. The trick is to quickly slow down and disable the jammers and allow him to get a speed. It's normal to sometimes need an extra second or two to get a speed on a vehicle so as long as you use your jammers properly, he won't even know that you have them.

[@gregoryswelding]

Mississippi made radar detectors illegal pretty recently

[@VortexRadar]

The law is referencing radar guns, not radar detectors. It’s confusingly written. www.rdforum.org/threads/127430/

[@gregoryswelding]

Oh ok thanks

[@gregoryswelding]

So it's laser guns only?

[@coyote5.066]

I heard in Texas they are giving a class c mistemenor if caught with a laser jammer

[@VortexRadar]

www.rdforum.org/showthread.php?t=4421

[@Dhalin]

Isn't it kinda suspicious when you slam on your brakes and then suddenly they get a speed that's barely under the speed limit? lol. I mean if you're going 45 in a 35, you hear the alarm, you hit the brakes.... the cop lasering you can see your brake lights if he's behind you and 3 seconds later, he sees you were doing 35... well gee, that's 35 AFTER the brake lights. This is especially true if you had no other reason to put your brakes on. At that point it becomes very obvious that you had a jammer.

[@BiggMo]

Dhalin - it’s called down shifting

[@Dhalin]

Yes, put extra wear-and-tear on your transmission just to save seconds off your total trip. Awesome.

[@BiggMo]

Dhalin - a few years ago a buddy of mine incorporated a break light kill switch into his jammers kill switch. I guess that’s an option for you but id does have risks if you have anyone following you. You need to make your choices. Nose dive, wear and tear, complicated install - just choose your strategy or just don’t speed.

[@Dhalin]

"Just Don't Speed" is obviously the right way. I mean, really, it's dangerous. You're endangering yourself and everybody on the road by speeding. The speed limit laws exist for a reason, and even if you think that YOU are "good enough" that you think you should be permitted to drive faster, that doesn't mean you should. I'd think we'd have a lot fewer accidents if everybody obeyed the speed limits. *shrug* But yeah, I don't like these sorts of videos teaching people how to speed because it's a dangerous practice to begin with and it really doesn't save you that much time on most trips.

[@BiggMo]

Dhalin - if your not interested in the topic, why are you here? I suggest evaluating your interests and put your valuable time in those. I don’t understand people have waste time communicating on topics there not into? Try some introspection, embrace the discovery and live happily I’m out on this thread.

[@ExecuteBrandon]

😂…. Why does that matter? Speeding is illegal well.

[@kyleruiz3855]

So if its legal, why would you turn it off?

[@VortexRadar]

The Most Important Thing to Know About Using Laser Jammers, Five Minute Fridays, Ep. 10 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGG6ZYidntuEaZI

[@fredA1234]

As usual thanks for your video I just watched this one on where laser jammers are legal but it is from five years ago.I live in the state of New Hampshire and travel into Maine. Are they still legal in these two states? I just saw that the R8 was released, and I emailed if it was compatible with laser jammers and my answer was they will be compatible when they come out with them. Thanks

[@VortexRadar]

While there may have been some changes to certain laws since, I’m not aware of any.

[@fredA1234]

Thanks for getting back to me. Looking forward to your review on the new R8. Thanks Fred

[@Tracker5111]

Hey, everyone.. laws change! This video is from 2016.. do your research

[@VortexRadar]

What has changed since?

[@DDTSGames]

What if I'm going 140? I can't stop in 3 seconds, but I guess they are gonna know anyways. Can they fine me if they can't get a speed though until I am actually slowed down?

[@VortexRadar]

haha I'm not a cop or anything, but it's possible they could try and give you a ticket based on a visual speed estimate, reckless driving, or something crazy. Countermeasures don't make you bulletproof... and to drive safely. :)

[@DDTSGames]

Vortex Radar I would only drive like that if it's a clear empty road, but still.

[@hallothar6842]

You'd probably need countermeasures like those guys who drove cross-country in 30 hours used.

[@patricklewis4350]

I've received 2 reckless driving charges during which police officers cited me based only on visual estimations of speed. No pacing or laser involved, at all. While both charges were reduced to 10 and 14 over, I had to pay via the stress of court proceedings and loss of my time, as well as approx $2k in lawyer fees per citation. If a cop believes you're speeding, you're gonna have to pay one way or the other.

[@Randomhandlename]

@@patricklewis4350 it’s hard to beat a reckless driving citation even with a good lawyer

[@MWDrone]

I just bought an escort max 3, and as far as im aware is I can hook up shifters too it as well. Do I have to stay with escort or can I get higher quality shifters?

[@VortexRadar]

Only the Escorts plug into it, but you can run most any jammer alongside it. Check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2qZpKp_gM2VbrM

[@MWDrone]

Thanks so much for your quick response..your videos helped me pick out my new purchase of escort max 3 which came today. A jammer/shifter is hopefully in my future but they are quite expensive. Ive been using escort for 15+ years, and got hit with laser once in my lifetime.