What's the Point of Blue-Point? Is it Snap On? Does Snap On compete with itself? Was the point blue?

[@chonkov]

Bluetooth, Bluetooth, Bluetooth 😂

[@dcf476]

Yeah I'm still yet to get a car that will connect via Bluetooth to my tools so I can sit back at home and fix the cars at work🤷

[@jasonplugowsky3086]

That's because the guy doesn't work with tools he KZbins about them. His knowledge IS Bluetooth 😆

[@WhiteVaille]

At this point, I'd almost just include Williams in the discussion.

[@Davobeff]

Most williams is snap on or blue point with the exception of the supercombo. Those are something special. Williams aren't available as williams in Australia but can be bpught as caterpillar. Warranty wise they aren't as easy as snap on.

[@nhbountyhunter]

I'm lucky to have an industrial tool dealer that sells Williams 7 mi from my house. The only thing I'm not overly fond of are the ratchets. They are good feeling well made ratchets I just don't believe 36 tooth cuts it anymore. But the wrenches, sockets, extensions, and pretty much everything else is on par with snap-on as far as I'm concerned. When I left the trade I couldn't get snap on anymore and found this Williams dealer. Because Williams dealers use the snap-on warranty service I can even warranty my snap-on parts through them which is probably the best thing ever.

[@superdupergrover9857]

Description: Grandpa gets confused about bluetooth devices then gets to talking about tools.

[@craigmackay4909]

Makes me think of those jacked up sema trucks with “Bluetooth “ drive shafts lol

[@metricdeep8856]

I'm just happy I caught the Bluetooth slip up. We ain't getting any younger. At least I didn't hit up Amazon for a bluetooth wrench.

[@pedaltheglobe419]

Let me answer the question for you since this guy ends this video with the same question he started with. Blue-Point made in Taiwan will generally be the highest quality of Taiwanese tools. Blue-Point made in the USA will generally be of average quality and average strength steels compared to other USA made tools. Snap-On often offers Blue Point as an option when it is not cost efficient to mass produce the tool in USA due to expected lower demand and/or high labor costs. You see this a lot in specialty tools. Also is given as an option for rebrands of middle of the road tools such as Lisle.

[@LowInformation]

I was surprised when I was looking at bluepoint sockets and one particular set is made in the usa.

[@shavedneon]

I have a Blue-Point tool cart that looks surprisingly close to the HF tool cart, except the drawer glides are much nicer. For the price I probably could of got 3 HF carts for the price, but this one was delivered. I believe it was explained to me that Blue-Point had tools from around the world, where Snap-On was 100% US made. I don’t think that’s the case anymore, sadly.

[@arthurleap4562]

Snap on tools sold par-x tools as there lower line of tools in the 80s I have a1/2" &1/4" socket set. And a wrench.

[@DownHillgamer]

We got a older blue point tool box at the shop, its like a big roll cab and I don't think they make them anymore. I'll see if I can make a short video on it. I've never seen one like it on youtube, burgundy box chrome trim, I normally only see the little roll carts from bluepoint

[@hlpang1075]

I have their metric crows feet set. Very nice design & quality. I like it

[@technoman53]

I think it’s primarily a fill in the gaps line to make the trucks a one stop shop without sullying the Snap-On brand by rebranding potentially lower quality products. It also likely serves as a lower cost get your foot in the door enticement to get people on the truck. Also it’s just more options. Snap-On is a huge conglomerate that doesn’t need tool trucks to survive so it can do stuff like selling multiple products that compete with each other.

[@gtcam723]

I always thought that Blue Point was basically the import Snap On

[@The.Dude.Abides.]

Saying BluePoint is just the same as SnapOn is like trying to sell a Toyota and telling the buyer it’s essentially a Lexus… so yeah… not the same thing.

[@robdavis05]

So you are saying, exactly the same frame but lower cost components???

[@Toyotas_n__Tools]

I have a SK set of those Cable cutters and also had a Proto, same frame and design.

[@bushman4949]

So were do I get the Blue-tooth ap to talk to my Blue-point tools? Tell um to pull those LS heads off and put um on the bench!😁

[@P46345]

One of the few times I've been on a Snap On truck I bought a used flaring tool set, about a year later I decided to sell it on ebay and listed it as a Snap On flaring tool set, Snap On flagged my listing because the item was Blue Point.

[@brandonmurphy4657]

I have always found blue point tools to be very good

[@Blazefork]

Nice work, I've always been told it was the "economy" brand as if anything on that truck fits that description lol

[@asid731]

The blue pony bit and service sets are super expensive

[@sandsock]

the last couple days ive been looking for some specific snapon/bluepoint or sk tools. that wrench you showed reminds me of a couple of our older larger sk wrenches with where the stamping on the grip goes. but i've seen some specialty wrenches from sk , that i would swear are snapon.

[@michaellindsay8934]

I have always wandered about that I do have some Blue-Point wrenches that are from the 50's Thanks Doc

[@sirmashington9205]

Very interesting. I like your camera, it focuses lickety split when you hold something close to the lens. It appears to be high dollar!

[@Davobeff]

Alot of blue point and snap on sets are sold as williams and bahco sets online. Both brands where bought by snap on and sell the same stuff now. Pretty much removed their own competitors by buyong them and ise the names tk sell stuff

[@luigigonzalez5062]

Would be nice to have a bluetooth ratchet 😂 All the possibilities and tight spaces we can work 😅

[@ToolTalkChannel]

That plastic clip tool… it’s great for when you are tired of screwing around and are ready to break your clip, or if it’s not broken it’s at least hidden behind the bench on the far side… it’s a tool I use from time to time, but the first time i was overly excited; just a word to the wise

[@davehaggerty3405]

SnapOn is a USA tool manufacturer/retailer. Blue-Point is a brand sourced from several manufacturers. I like Blue-Point because it gives me access to SnapOn engineers and metallurgists. They research and test every product they sell. And set quality standards for the tools they brand and warranty. So even though you can buy the same tool cheaper somewhere else cheaper it doesn’t have the warranty thru SnapOn. Or SnapOn service. And it may not be made to Blue-Point’s specifications.

[@groverw7507]

I'd swap my discount amazon Blue-Points with the truck from time to time for peace of mind

[@ckm-mkc]

I highly doubt they research anything - they are just putting out a spec or sourcing a tool from known manufacturers. SnapOn is not "engineering" that they are not directly manufacturing, even made in USA tools made by other manufacturers.

[@johnnyolson258]

But it doesn't hold true 100% snapon rebrands Taiwan tools and bluepoint also has tools that are made in usa by snapon

[@HiFiInsider]

which would you buy, Williams or Blue-point?

[@petermoore9504]

It would be interesting to know if the steel on the spanner doesn't contain Cobalt-60 ie pre 1945.

[@robbabcock_]

Interesting! I am not all that familiar with Blue Point but they look pretty good.

[@render8]

Back in the day... Like maybe 40 ish years ago... (to the best of my knowledge) The Blue-Point name was assigned to specialty tools and or tools that were sourced by Snap-On from other manufacturers but sold by Snap-On, I guess as a subsidiary brand.

[@andygilbert1877]

Yeah, I’ve got a few engine specific Blue Point tools I bought in the 90s. Decent enough for occasional use and cheap enough to not bother trying to make them yourself. I don’t remember there being wrenches, sockets etc back then.

[@render8]

@@andygilbert1877 Yes the sockets, ratchets, wrenches and pliers were always Snap-On as I remember also Pliers had the octopus style grip

[@junkyardgenius]

From my extensive Snap-on Endeavor I've noticed that their main core ratchet sockets and wrenches etcetera hand tools all seem to be that their budget line and they seem to add stuff that is fill in the blank specialty stuff that I don't think they quite feel confident in labeling Snap-on but they don't offer any other offering in that specialty category so they label it blue point to fill out the catalog all my dealers claim that their core Blue Point hand tools or their budget line and their specialty tools they just didn't have any other USA or higher quality options available to them so they just put it under their blue point line to kind of save their snap on branding

[@BigEvan96]

I use blue point for my daily work. I have no complaints. Much stronger than harbor freight equivalents.

[@marko11kram]

I guess it's akin to the Gearwrench / SATA connection

[@marvintroyer069]

That blue point combination wrench you showed is China made, not Taiwan. According to the website anyway.

[@1pcfred]

Snap-On, Snap-Off, The Snapper!

[@joepinci4395]

Having the Bluepoint name allows Snap-On to offer a cheaper alternative, but also more importantly lets them re-brand other very good tools without “watering down” their name or quality standards. Most of their competitors will happily re-brand these tools under their main line. For example Cornwell’s USA plier line is composed of almost entirely Channellock pliers. For a long time Blue Point offered the exact same pliers with a red grip instead of orange. At the same time Snap-On offers a superior line of pliers engineered in house, basically proving they are ahead of the competition and will offer you the exact same product as them under their secondary line at a competitive cost. This means you don’t have to have multiple truck account open and have to rely on multiple people to get different tools warrantied. This also prevents potential customers from saying, “Why would I pay the Snap-On premium when I can get the same tool from Lang at 1/2 the price”. Or “How can Snap-On be superior to Matco when they both offer the same brake caliper tool”. Obviously Snap-On still does rebrand some tools under their name, but they are usually improved upon in one way or another. Usually in the fit & finish department.

[@boosted2.4_sky]

The Blue Point ratchets are made in Taiwan.. I've got a few, and to me, they we work great.. I like em..☝️

[@FixItWithMe]

Is the blueprint tools on Amazon fake?

[@Brianz613]

Not sure how much truth there is to it but my Snap-On dealer said a lot of the Blue Point products come from when they warranty or take in used Snap-On tools that can’t be re-sold. Apparently, these tools are recycled by melting them down and remanufacturing them into blue point products. If that is the case, it’s an interesting way to make quality tools at a lower price point, while decreasing waste.

[@Toyotas_n__Tools]

Thats funny lmao, never heard of that. Doesn't really even make sense.

[@AToolWithTools]

Nope. Those giant pliers for example are just rebranded Channellock 480s. The part number is even CHN480. The wood handle ball peen look a lot like Vaughan to me.Mr. The absolute most important thing to remember is that your rep is a salesman. They'll tell you what they think makes a sale. Which is why a bunch of people have been told by the guys hucking Milwaukee that the same exact model numbers with the same exact weight and everything is a different special better-internals tool made just for them and the other suppliers like HD and Acme are selling junk versions, for example.

[@johnnyolson258]

That's hilarious and absolutely not true at all

[@Brianz613]

@@AToolWithTools Yes it is definitely possible that the dealer was not correct on this, which is why I said I am not sure how much truth there is to it, that is just what he said when I asked him about it. It would not have been to make a sale though as I don’t personally buy any of the blue point items and my dealer is well aware of that.

[@scod3908]

Not sure about bluepoint, but the Bahco stuff has been trending downhill under SnapOff

[@1pcfred]

Happy Pappy wants some Snappy.

[@johnnyolson258]

Kind of like facom under Stanley black and decker. A lot of the good European made stuff went to the mac/proto branding and now facom gets a lot made in China

[@andresmontoyagomez7384]

What part number was that snap on 1/4 driver ?

[@lastbesttool]

BPRTR936

[@turboslag]

Blue Point is the budget range marketed by Snap On, for customers who have tighter funds or are less than enthusiastic for Snap On prices. I was once told by a Snap On dealer that Blue Point is manufactured in Spain, Mexico and Eastern Europe. Blue Point is less well finished and made from lower cost materials than Snap On, but will still perform more than adequately, even for professional mechanics. Up until about 20 years ago I bought nothing but Snap On but here in the UK their prices became so ludicrous that I moved to other quality brands, mainly European, and they have proved at least as good as Snap On but at half the price or less. Lately I've started buying Milwaukee stuff which is excellent, the downside being that it is made in China, which grates on me but the prices are difficult to ignore.

[@robertcasey3528]

Every broken Snap On tools becomes Blue Point

[@2121contreras]

I love my Bluetooth!!!😂😮

[@chipvtx1800]

The rule used to be, snap on is made in the USA and blue point is made outside of the USA.

[@eightpenny6379]

It’s just marketing. Honda has Acura, Toyota has Lexus, black and deck and dewalt Have your higher lines and lower lines for all price points.

[@authalic]

Swiss watchmakers have been heating the screws in their watches to turn them blue for a long time. It doesn't do anything functional for the screws, though -- just decorative and a sign of human expertise.

[@AToolWithTools]

Chapman does the same thing, they offer a flame-treated ratchet. They tell you straight up though it doesn't do anything for the tool, just looks cool.

[@TheCronan]

Could have added CAT into this discussion

[@andygilbert1877]

I still prefer Snap-on core tools, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers etc. Been using them for 40 years or so now and I’m a Brit, so no patriotism there. Before that I had British stuff, but they’d started to cheapen on quality. Now we have almost no tool industry. ‘Nuff said…

[@1pcfred]

No patriotism? As an American I consider the UK our aged and infirm parent that we have to take care of today. We're still family. What did Churchill say? Two countries separated by a common language?

[@Cesar-so5no]

saw blue point pliers on the truck made in china, gave me a giggle

[@MPD90]

Soon all tools will have Bluetooth connectivity built in. My fridge already has it!

[@andrewscott8892]

Blue point is all the above. I'm sure there is logic to it internally. Blue point to snap on, expert to mac and blue power to cornwell are all similar but are all different business models in to the parent company

[@bobadams8252]

Blue point ratchets and sockets are rebranded Williams. Made in Taiwan

[@robertcasey3528]

BluePoint are Snap On tools that have been warranted out and re melted down into new tools.

[@s.kirkpatrick8564]

My driver always told us blue point was before snap on. Now a days blue point is made in china.

[@Tcorellis-j6d]

305.00 for a single blue point combination wrench set that’s made in china that people very stupidly pay for “because it’s off the truck “ you can get ALOT of nice Taiwan made wrenches for half the price if not 40% the price Taiwan typically makes better quality than anything Chinese

[@bulshavix6]

That’s an exhaust hanger tool not a clip tool but you could probably use it for clips sometimes

[@zarajoe1]

Bluepoint. More like no point. I honestly dont see the point with bluepoint tools. Why would i pay a premium for taiwanese/chinese tools when many other brands sell identical tools for less

[@lostpacket]

snap-on is wayover priced for what it is. I was a professional mechanic for 10+ years and used snap-on the entire time. Matco, Blue Point and others are the same quality for less money. IN the Snap-on truck they sold Blue Point, so technically it is Snap-on if being sold by them. snap-on uses crap marketing to get people to up sale to their brand (e.g. same ratchet but more popular handle design)

[@Davobeff]

Some things are definitely worth going snap on. Ratchets etc. Alot of stuff no but easy warranty is a big one.

[@roninbushitoろうにん]

Not all is overpriced some people spend $200 on Nikes but complain about snapon prices get real

[@Dr650rob]

Williams is also snap on

[@calebo3621]

snapon man said it was their chinese brand

[@mike4food]

Your Bluetooth device is ready to pair

[@tanman7627]

I like Bluetooth

[@branned]

I do not buy any Truck Truck import brand tools. Snap-on or nothing from that truck for me.

[@roninbushitoろうにん]

Me too not into overseas junk

[@johnnincupoop2325]

Bluetooth?😂

[@UliMuliko]

Us in Europe made japan and germany are usually the best, made in usa is compared almost taiwan, little better.

[@lostpacket]

Japanese tools are indeed better than the US. They actually have real pride in their work and aren't just going for corporate greed like US companies.

[@1pcfred]

Snap-On sockets and wrenches are the best. Second to none. Better than anything Japan or Germany makes. Other Snap-On tools are good but they're not their core products. Snap-On invented modern sockets and wrenches. So they're also the first along with being the best. Now quit being such a Wera Joker already.

[@AToolWithTools]

​@@1pcfredThey did not invent either of those things. The founders worked at Blackhawk, who was the actual inventor of the modern socket drive with interchangeable tools, and ran off with the idea to compete against their former employer. Blackhawk had socket sets available in 1/2" drive by 1919, Snap-on was founded in 1920. By 1921 Blackhawk had a ratchet, Snap-on didn't get their own actual ratchet til a few years later. Proto invented the combination wrench. The precursor to Gearwrench invented the modern construction for ratcheting wrench. Box end and open end wrenches both were out well before Snap-on even existed.

[@AToolWithTools]

​​@@1pcfredThey did not invent either of those things. The founders worked at Blackhawk, who was the actual inventor of the modern socket drive with interchangeable tools, and ran off with the idea to compete against their former employer. Blackhawk had socket sets available in 1/2" drive by 1919, Snap-on was founded in 1920. By 1921 Blackhawk had a ratchet, Snap-on didn't get their own actual ratchet til a few years later. Proto invented the combination wrench. The precursor to Gearwrench invented the modern construction for ratcheting wrench. Box end and open end wrenches both were out well before Snap-on even existed. They weren't even first to market with Flank Drive, Kelsey-Hayes already had a socket design out that involved not just use a flat hexagon by the early 1960s, Flank Drive came a couple years later. This is one of those "Thomas Edison invented the lightbulb" situations where history is written by the victor.

[@1pcfred]

@@AToolWithTools Snap-On invented flank drive. They invented the ratchets we know today too.