Late Summer Food Plot Timing

[@RonFleener]

You've changed a lot of old minds and are training a new generation of hunters with education. Thank you.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Thanks a lot Ron that really means a lot to me, to hear you say that!

[@solschwartz7119]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751hi.so im running short on time.just wondering what you wouldn't recommend to plant in southeast Ohio for last minute plot?

[@joshny4766]

Good morning Jeff!. It's all in the timing!! It's been dry here in CNY, but was lucky to find time to get my plots in before two significant rains around Aug 8th. Plots are looking very good. Very happy with the germination rate of your big boost brassica blend.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Gi Josh thats great to hear!! I've found it pops really quickly and easily for sure!

[@Yaboifootchie]

I feel very fortunate here in the south. We’ve had almost too much rain!

[@suzmell1]

I’ve had too push my seeding dates off till 1st week in sept due too little or no rain in the southern tier of catskill region in upstate New York at this point the glass is either half full or half empty depending on your outlook on things so for everyone of you that have been experiencing this I wish you nothing but good luck

[@miikesternberg6947]

You nailed my problem here in north Idaho. No rain in August and maybe not until the middle or end of Sept. Frost can come at any time here. Rye has saved me many times. I have planted it towards the end of Sept. and it comes in fast and saves me again.

[@Sandwichking-hikes]

I had resisted idea of using weed spray and after watching advice on this channel decided to listen to the expert and weed spray, it just works so much better spraying weeds. Thanks for giving advice we need to hear.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

You are very welcome! So important to get the most out of your hard work and dollars spent 👍😊

[@hunterthewerewolf]

I'm in North Louisiana and we're having a week of nothing but rain! If it stops by this weekend I'm gonna start killing off the weeds in my spot and get started with my plots. So God willing I'll be planting by September 4th or 11th

[@derikgarry2045]

Love ya Jeff… U changed ur tune on your mix!!! I bought Austrian peas, spring oats and got some beans from a farmer buddy. Planted that on half and a brassica mix from Albert Leas Seed. Work with my local seed guys. Doing good though. Going out Wednesday to see it vs trail cams!!! Thank for all the advice!

[@RS-ms1bz]

Perfect timing of this video, Jeff. I’m at the property now planting your brassica boost and trying John Komp’s peas, beans and oats for sandy soils. Thinking that my soil being light it is better suited. Just need the rain to actually show up as forecasted. It’s looking promising. A little late start since at my elevation the first freeze is before Halloween. 🙏 for rain finally. Have a great weekend!

[@bowman8316]

Good luck ! Me too ⛈🌧🤞🏻

[@RS-ms1bz]

Good luck. Fourth weekend in a row with 70-100% chance of rain over 3/4” and nothing has happened. Hoping this is it finally. Have a great season!!

[@3MISSISSIPPI]

I just bought 45 acres in Upper Mississippi and I want to get a food plot in... I know I am running out of time but I think I can still get something in. I doubt I have time to get a soil sample back but I probably have time to throw some seeds out. What would you recommend I plant? There is really good bedding on the neighboring property to my east and my neighbor to the west must have good food because they cross my pasture every night.

[@brentthebloodhound]

Jeff you are right about oats and rye. I planted 100 pounds oats because my soil is bad. The deer didn’t eat it. I’m going to leave it for winter. Also I planted 450 pounds of rye on 2 acres. I’m trying to build the soil and choke out the ferns

[@rogerrose4573]

I would have bought them but you put the video out the day after I order from John. T minus 20 days till I get to meet you.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Roger...that's perfectly OK 😊 can't wait to see you very soon!!

[@kokadjooutdoors620]

Got mine planted last week with one rain day we had hoping get more tonight been very dry in maine this season hopefully it will take off

[@joeyellison9847]

Awsome video jeff! Great info and knowledge. Love your content and wisdom on everything deer related. Waiting for some consistent rain in Oklahoma so some seed can get to slinging

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Thanks Joey and I hope you get that rain very soon 😊

[@AdamCraigOutdoors]

Don't forget about us up north in Canada. We are food plot lovers too!! lol

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Amen to that Adam! I also can't wait to go fishing in Canada up there very soon 😁

[@BlanchardsBees]

Just got mine in yesterday here in SW Iowa.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Nice...perfect timing for you! Mine were all in Sunday thru Wednesday.

[@donnieabbottjr5860]

Thanks for all the great videos Jeff, keep them coming! I had a question about clearing shooting lanes. Have you done a video on that?

[@eddiewallace5272]

Dang good video Jeff, thanks for sharing your knowledge and information ✅💥✌️

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Thanks a lot Eddi...thanks a lot for watching!

[@joeking3339]

Question : SW Arkansas ,,,, broadcasting Winter Peas into mature WW/ WRye ,,, then rolling and cultipacking ,,,,do peas germinate fairly under fairly thick thatch ??

[@bkreativfilms]

So I just planted light buck oats with my turnip, radish, peas and rape. Northeast Iowa. Did I make a mistake planting the oats with them right now or should I have waited to plant with rye in a month?

[@Starpowdercoat]

Jeff, when you spray plot boost or any other liquid fertilizer are you driving right over the brassicas or are you using a backpack sprayer and walking? Lastly at what stage or height of growth is the best to drive over with a sprayer in order to give the brassicas the best chance to recover? Thank you!

[@stevegermain1222]

Awesome content Jeff

[@JBesq]

First time food plot using ultimate no till. Was expecting rain when I planted early August and none has dropped in weeks. Hopefully the rolled over buckwheat and morning dews have helped but it looks like rye to the rescue upstate NY 🙄

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Man you guys have had it bad this year! Rye can really save the day at least 😜

[@bowman8316]

I'm with you man ! I'm laying rye on half and wheat on half on all 4 plots... heavy 3x's in September ! My plots look like the surface of the moon lol Good luck 🤞🏻⛈

[@JBesq]

@@bowman8316 surface of the moon! Hahaha. So true. I am looking for a Tuesday soaker but doubt that’s going to do it. Will throw the rye and hope some of the habitat improvements pick up the slack 🙄

[@seabass7239]

Love the channel! I am a bow hunter and am trying to implement your proven to work strategies. I live in mid coast Maine. There is virtually no agriculture plantings Within 30 miles. We only have some hay fields. I live on 60 acres with large fields adequate amount of Marshland and bogs for bedding and a good supply of surrounding Oaks with about 42 wild apple trees. The deer are around early bow season but by the time the regular season comes around and certainly buy gun season there are hardly any deer hanging around here. To change that I'm wondering Which one of your blends would you recommend for a food plot next season. Planning on planting in July. Approximately 3 acres. Thanks

[@jasonmeyer4587]

Just curious on why buckwheat in the fall greens blend? I thought buckwheat isnt a preferred browse species compared to others and best used as an earlier smother crop?

[@kurtpearson2793]

Our pompous grass is HUGE and spreading. Can I use its seeds to make screening? I want to pocket some plots.

[@jamesperry5084]

What is your recommendation for extreme South Georgia north Florida for a planting date when bow season starts sept. 10?

[@kurtpearson2793]

First- apparently I got good germination (according to my dad) 👍 can’t wait to see the plots. Light re-seeding and Plot Start today, Plot Boost in mid September

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Kurt...that was as fast as it gets!! Nit sure there was any way someone else could have gotten it?! 😬👍

[@kurtpearson2793]

Proximity helps- Minnesota boys have the leg up 👍

[@kurtpearson2793]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 nice rain last night 👍

[@bowman8316]

Thanks for all your well wishes Kurt... you're a good man ! 🤞🏻⛈🤞🏻🌧

[@alexpinnow6509]

Can you fertilize brassicas too early Jeff (before there's a larger leaf too growing) or will you put the hammer down if you can get ahead of a rain front?

[@ronroden284]

What is your opinion on crimping instead of spraying to kill the buckwheat? Thank you.

[@lenkurzynske8735]

Wisconsin,northern Forest county;September 2nd,2017. 28 degrees! Wiped out our corn and soybeans!🦌🦌

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

That's crazy Len!

[@ronmacdougall9612]

I planted some Domain three weeks ago and it did not germinate good at all,I ended up putting some winter rye and clover over it.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Dang, that's too bad...but that rye will still work for you 👍

[@fueledtohunt2173]

Jeff, you ever try planting screening like egyptian wheat or hd screen and rolling rye or buckwheat over the top of it? If so whats your results doing this? How do you plant your annual screen?

[@robbobcat7286]

I did a nice stand of eg this year 12 foot wide 80 feet long came in beautiful during the drought he this was grow like 4 inches a day.then we got a heavy rain knocked it all over it was rain not wind that took it out. This really love the heat. I a small pacth that got shade in the morning up til 10 am that area is very stunted.Will try again next year cause i have seed left. Good luck that’s experience with it hope helps

[@mainenorthwoodshunter3265]

I assume clover is planted after brassica but before grains?

[@RonFleener]

Do you recommend I plant (North Florida, almost Alabama) oats and then clover or vise versa?

[@gerjerryxiong]

So I finally did a food plot last year after watching your videos. It did great! Had a lot of action, but it seemed like the brassicas never fully grew. Maybe too much pressure from the deer? How big of a plot would be best for 160 acres? How many would you advise on making?

[@in2thewild276]

Does morning Dew help out with germination ? And will it keep seeds from rotting if your only getting a couple of days rain a month

[@jlbowhunter]

Jeff, I’m about to pull the trigger on your brassicas. Can you tell me when you put down your fall power greens? I’m located in SW Missouri. I’ve sprayed 50% roundup glyphosate in my 1 acre area last week. Gonna hit it again this weekend or next. I’m gonna watch the forecast for rain. I’m hoping I time it in the 2nd week of September. Broadcasted right in the dead sprayed brush. I’m just confused on when or even if I should pair the greens with the brassicas? Or would it be better to hit with rye 5 weeks or so after the brassicas? Sorry for all the questions here. You’re awesome and I don’t mind paying the higher price. I watch all your videos and you’ve changed the way I deer hunt = I’ve been more successful because of it!

[@ethom368]

With tillage radish in both your mixes, is it ok to have radish planted on both sides of your food plot every year?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Erik for sure...1 of the reasons I use a good crop of buckwheat in between

[@solschwartz7119]

Southeast Ohio here.havent had time to get any plots in.thy should be in since we had some good rain the past to days but what would you recommend planning for last minute?

[@Fly5guy]

Hey Jeff, been using this method for a couple years with pretty good results. I just bought the same spreader you use and I have rows, especially in my brassica. Any tips on broadcasting so you get a better coverage? I have strips of maybe 3-4ft of heavy planting with strips of very thin. Thanks

[@Jay-hu1pc]

Measure your plot size and amount of seed you use. You can set your spreader a little tighter so you just have to go over it more to use up your seed. Then spread your seed out in both directions like a checker board that will give your more consistency

[@Fly5guy]

@@Jay-hu1pc I had it measured out per acre and had the spreader at the smallest setting it could be and still let the seeds through. I did not do a checkerboard pattern though. I will try that next time. Thanks.

[@owenyoder8323]

Also make sure your if your ground slopes that your spredder does to

[@keithcarlson8455]

Wow, I actually agreed with everything you presented except for planting over the greens with later grains. Ive played around with no till, but come to a belief that my soil has to be worked. after a rain it makes a shell that becomes hard and tossing seed on it just doesn’t seem to work very well. Most gets washed into bands at low points. My experiences here in coastal SC have always been at odds with you but,like you, I change it up every year. My local fall blends run 60% cereal grains, and I cut that in half with a pure winter greens blend that runs me $185 a 40-lb bag. There is no such thing as a poor man’s food plot.

[@mattheaton5963]

Do you remember the title of your video that talked about selling land that isn’t good for hunting and not producing a good return for the value? I was looking all over yesterday and couldn’t find it, sorry for the unrelated question. Thank you

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Matt it's likely on one of the land buying guide videos...why af is bad, or something like that?

[@mattheaton5963]

Thanks Jeff

[@hugh_hancock]

What kind of peas are you planting? My local seed store has ironclay cowpeas, I’m in clay soil in South Carolina.

[@chrisculler5338]

Austrian winter peas. Frost will kill iron clay peas, but not Austrian winter peas.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Hugh...cowpeas are great for you down in SC...not for us up here tho. I use forage peas. Austrian winter peas stay greener a little longer than forage peas up hete...but not much. A mute point tho considering they are eaten down to the dirt with just modest deer #s, by Dec 😊 they like those cowpeas a lot down by you! You will find more volume down there than forage peas as well.

[@benwright67]

Hi Jeff, me again from mid Missouri. My dad and I are wanting to plant mostly clover so we don't have to plant every year and can work on other things. I would also like to incorporate other things in this year to better the soil that won't re-emerge. Any suggestions and how much per acre? Sorry for novel

[@dr.stevenwadeau.d.3382]

I tilled and planted clover in august 2019 and it’s still going strong, maybe even better looking now. You could still do it this year if you have a good seed bed. If not I would burn it down with herbicide real good before it goes dormant and frost seed it in February. I’m in Missouri too.

[@Robert-em3fv]

Do you think it’s wurth planting the whs blend on September 3 an unfortunately thing happen to my ATV ands it’s in the shop or should I just use rye ? I’m located in NY about an hour from NYC the weather also been so dry

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

I would definitely plant it...maybe not the brassica blend unless you are more in the middle of the country and south. I also recommend that you follow up with 150#s of rye closer to October 1st...

[@Robert-em3fv]

Thank you that’s what I will do then!!!

[@bowman8316]

Good luck man ! I'm in WNY rain dancing with the stars lol

[@Robert-em3fv]

@@bowman8316 thank you David

[@quantumtruthseeker210]

Well, good luck to everyone this season. My season looks to be a total loss. After no rain once again after three days straight of a forecasted 90 percent chance of at least one inch of rain, and no rain insight for the next two weeks, I'm now out of time to plant brassicas and greens. I may have a chance to plant winter rye, but with the first frost usually by October 1 and first freeze by October 15, I'm just out of time. My season is over before it even starts. I'm not going to hunt my property to just hunt. Without the food plots, my entire parcel plan is obliterated. I'll take my vacation days and use them to keep improving my property by creating more bedding areas, travel corridors, two additional plots and more regeneration areas. For everyone here who had the rain you needed for your plots, be thankful. Many of us out here have really struggled. I have put in at least two hundred hours of work since January preparing for this season. I guess I could hunt public land, but it makes more sense to me to take the little time I do have off from work to use it to improve my property for next season. Thank you Jeff for all the amazing content you put out. I implemented ALL of it since January and was so excited for it all to come together this fall. Mother Nature just didn't do her part. I've taken a major gut punch, but I'll keep working to improve my property, and hopefully next year will bring rain and better results. I hope everyone has a great season this fall!!

[@mitchellsawyers8152]

Just to clarify what you said in the video, do you overseed a month later with 150# of Rye on just the Power Greens or your big boost brassica mix as well?

[@mikemitchell9157]

Gotta love these pre recorded vids. "Its the end of July" bro we coming up on the end of August

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

One of the forgotten ones 😬😊 Woops! I honestly thought we had put this one out...oh well!

[@mikemitchell9157]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Better late than never still love it though bro

[@bobcattt8]

Hi Jeff, what if you get one day of frost in lets say late September but then it does not frost again till mid October, is your food plot going to be ok and keep growing or did that one day ruin everything? Thank you!

[@wesleymcauly1929]

If you don’t mind me asking what bow hanger do you use

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Ho Wedley I'm not sure, but there are some really cheap ones out there I avoid. It seems like you get what you pay for in terms of quality, when it comes to the hangers

[@wesleymcauly1929]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I agree some seem to be hard to get into the tree too

[@matthewaini8096]

Hey Jeff just planted my big boost brassicas and they came in great but I feel as though I over seeded. It’s seems like every seed germinated and now it’s extremely thick. Any suggestions on what to do if anything?

[@joerome8882]

What’s the germination rate on what your selling

[@dusty4208]

How long can the seed sit on the soil (with no cover crop) before rain? we just had one good rain 12 days after broadcasting my WHS fall greens 25lb bag on the .3 acres. Were expecting rain for the next few day, do I replant another 25lb? (Which i purchased already) should I plant 12 lb’s? Or just leave the seed thats out there and see what happens? Not sure how long the seeds are viable sitting on the soil (not germinated yet) plot start and fertilizer already applied.

[@dusty4208]

Im in southern MI.

[@sandych33ks1]

I'm interested in that answer ? I planted with rain in the forecast but no rain for over a week with seed out on the ground... It wasn't super hot and we have a heavy dew every night. I'm wondering if I need to add more seed as well .

[@dusty4208]

@@sandych33ks1 never got an answer. I had to make a call because we were 100% getting rain today and a real good chance over the next few days.. so based on the video, I’m assuming up to 70% may not be viable. I went ahead and added another 25lbs ahead of the rain today. I raked it in on my .3 acre food plot. Crossing fingers that it’s not over planted and going to choke out the plants.

[@mikebutler5317]

I'm also in Southern MI. Had a failed 50-60% buckwheat planting in June due to lack of rain. It's hit and miss this year. Brassicas may have gotten floated out on some plantings due to 2"of rain over two days a week ago. I'll know more next week but may be looking at more rye and wheat this year in Sept. Good Luck.

[@hunterthewerewolf]

I have a question, I'm in North Louisiana and the week of straight rain that we're experiencing right now is apparently going to turn into TWO weeks of straight rain. I didn't start up my no-till food plots yet and I'm probably not going to be able to until September 18th after waiting a week for the glyphosate to do its job. Is this too late into the season to plant? Also I don't know for sure if we're going to get heavy rain like this after I plant. I was told in anothe no-till food plot video that I need a heavy rain to help wash the bigger seeds down in the soil, but since I don't know when the next heavy rain will come can I just manually shuffle them down to the soil?

[@jwmfatboy]

Same area as you. I have two setups.. gonna do my normal planting in one area, till and seed. The other area is gonna be the no till method. I don't have a ton of room maybe 1/4 to 1/2 acre at most for each area. My problem is the deer tend to eat everything before it even gets two inch tall. My goal is to plant around 15-18 Sept depending on weather. I will glyphosate my no till a week before.

[@hunterthewerewolf]

@@jwmfatboy Have you tried this "SavePlot" tape? I saw it in a feed store and it claims to keep deer away from food plots that you wrap the tape around after spraying it with the repellent that comes with it.

[@jwmfatboy]

@@hunterthewerewolf I have not tried that.. gonna look into it. Wonder how it works for hogs.

[@hunterthewerewolf]

@@jwmfatboy I'm wondering the same thing cause there's a SLIGHT hog problem at my spot

[@hunterthewerewolf]

@@jwmfatboy Correction: it's called "PlotSaver"

[@botnotsmith1812]

Jeff I bought an EWay 2750. Planted my Buckwheat with it on June 24. Noticed that the seed came out heavily on the left 90 degree sector and got almost no seed spraying out in the right 90 degree sector. I ended up with Buckwheat stripes. I looked at the opening in the bottom of the hopper and the opening is not symmetrical. I contacted Earthway, described my problem to them and they kindly sent me a new EW 2750. I examined it and it has exactly the same asymmetrical seed opening. My question is, do you not experience the exact same problem with your 2750's? I bought this based on your review and I can't believe that someone as meticulous as you re: foodplots would use a seeder that spreads so poorly. Any thoughts?

[@JBesq]

I had the same issue. First I found that adding a washer to the stop screw helped keep the lever from moving over and closing the seeder unexpectedly. Second I had some rows but for ,e I think it was my walking pace and speed of turning the handle. The more I seeded the more I evened out my pace and turn as well as a slight side to side movement of the seeder across my body. I used about twice as much buckwheat as was recommended but this was the first attempt. Buckwheat came up with a few stripes and not as tall and perfect like WHS videos but it wasn’t too bad. On the green seeding I had someone with me to monitor if and how much the seed was coming out and that helped a ton. Good luck.

[@botnotsmith1812]

I've just decided to stop using the earthway and find something different that doesn't present any issues. I don't feel like I should have to swing from side to side or be overly concerned about finding the right pace in order to get a good spread pattern. A friend has a SOLO and it works great so I'll pry buy that. I still don't understand how JS can use the 2750 and not have the same problem I have. I have seen him swaying from side to side in some of his videos while seeding but you simply should not have to do that.

[@vaneimagination842]

Rain is coming boyz!!

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Amen 😊

[@chrismacomber9727]

Ok so I have permission on a property to hunt but the land owner kinda lets whoever walk on it ..so instead of wasting my time and money on food plots I tried spreading corn all over the plot and it works.. never hunted over corn before is there any difference in the way deer use corn over a food plot???

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Chris! It seems easier to spook them over corn, but when you let it sit unpressured it can create some incredible hunts!

[@chrismacomber9727]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 cool thanks brother only 3 weeks away can't wait..

[@bowman8316]

Frost seeding corn ! Sweet 👍🏼👍🏼

[@chrismacomber9727]

@@bowman8316 no not frost seeding just corn in NC you can bait..never in 20 years I never had but can't see putting the time and money into plots when there could be people walking around lol

[@bowman8316]

@@chrismacomber9727 was just a joke 👍🏼👍🏼

[@bowman8316]

TY 🌾🦌🏹🕺🏻

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

For sure David!

[@bowman8316]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 just need 🌧⛈🌧⛈🤞🏻🤞🏻

[@kurtpearson2793]

@@bowman8316 if I could send you some rain I would!! Boy you need it 😳

[@bowman8316]

@@kurtpearson2793 thanks Kurt ! Gonna be a wheat and rye fall 👍🏼

[@kurtpearson2793]

@@bowman8316 👍 that’s a solid plan B

[@quinnm.2314]

Not mixing seeds is detrimental to soil health. Blends are always better for soil health, but it depends on your goals I guess.

[@hunterthewerewolf]

Does he mean cow peas when he says peas?