My brain and logic says Super Perfect Cell as he’s a SSJ2 level menace .. but the fact that you’re Dabura is rocking that DEEP of a v neck w the popper collar … showing pecs like that ?? You know you gotta be HIM
@ArkansasGamer7 ай бұрын
He's not that guy, pal
@MrKevin486Ай бұрын
Super Perfect Cell is maybe a low low level SSJ2 level. Gohan was at half power when he beat Cell. Had Gohan still had full Ki when Cell returned, he would have still beat Cell relatively easily. Dabura is hard to rate. Goku, seems to think they are prolly pretty similar. However, Cell has regeneration hax and other stuff. It's a hard question to answer.
@edsongamingjr557Ай бұрын
I think its downplaying cell saying gohan would beat him easily cell in the manga as perfect cell didnt go down by ssj2 gohan attacks even though he was taking alot of damage and only got humiliated when he went into that buff form and super perfect cell said his power is almost as strong as gohan and if gohan was way more powerful than cell then he would have easy been faster than cell's blast or tanked it ion see it an excuse honestly and cell still had his hax Gohan was stronger but not by alot.
@randomt800kiddo213 күн бұрын
@@edsongamingjr557lmao what? gohan was holding back against cell, he could've ended the fight at any time. this is pretty obvious with how goku warns gohan not to toy with cell. cell got a whole zenkai boost power up and still lost to a one handed kamehameha from an injured gohan
@edsongamingjr55712 күн бұрын
@randomt800kiddo2 He wasn't toying with cell he was going all out in his mind but he wasn't and that kameha wasn't 50 percent of gohan's strength gohan's earlier kameha vs normal perfect cell was his full power and it didn't kill cell while gohan's father son kameha killed a much stronger version of cell and you can tell by the intensity of the blast its wayyyy stronger than the kameha he used on regular perfect cell and idk why ppl act like gohan straight up overpowered cell,cell was caught off guard they make the excuse that cell broke gohan arm because he was off guard but they say gohan killed cell with 1 arm as if he overpowered him regularly
@EndoScorpion Жыл бұрын
13:11 "We don't see the spit hitting Krillin's hand".... he tries to wipe it off his face with the back of his hand and says "ACK!!!" while doing it. That's how it ended up on his hand.
@afro02519 күн бұрын
LMAOOOO I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COMMENT THAT 🤣 i'm so glad someone brought that up. he's looked at that page so many times during the video, so i'm still wondering how tf he missed that 💀
@decarvalho6975 Жыл бұрын
4 things are certain to happen while watching Laughingstock Media's videos: - Mike will show cards from his previous videos -Mike will say "Vegeta's technique" - Mike will say "nonetheless" after a brief explanation - Mike will say "the fact the matter is" during the course of the video 😂😂😂😂😂
@antology74 ай бұрын
Hahaha these points really justify the name channel.
@NyBeans92 Жыл бұрын
You have to remember that Cell has all the abilities of nearly all the fighters we had seen so far. If he’s pushed into a corner I’m sure he would resort to some of the Z fighters’ techniques like solar flare, kaioken, or cloning.
@asianpersuasion4901 Жыл бұрын
classic anime viewer with their misconceptions cause of filler. cell only has frieza, cold, piccolo, goku, and vegeta cells.
@Alex-dr6or Жыл бұрын
@@asianpersuasion4901Goku alone knows all those techniques so it doesn't really matter
@TheMissingLink2 Жыл бұрын
This statement is just flat out wrong. Cell has the cells of Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Frieza, and King Cold confirmed and canon by the manga. He also MIGHT (but probably doesnt) have the Cells of Tien and Krillen (and some other earthly fighters only), as this was stated in the English dub specifically (and only there) and there is debatable evidence in the anime only to support it, such as Cell using a techniques that Tien is famous for, albeit Piccolo also knows Multiform; and the Destructo Disc is Krillen's signature move. HOWEVER, use of those techniques DOES NOT indicate they are from their cells, but rather Cell has learned them, as multiple beings have been shown being able to use multiple techniques in general; ones like them or those same techniques. ALSO, these techniques used by Cell are anime only aka Filler... They were not used by him in the manga. So, if you're someone who subscribes to the notion that Manga>Anime, this is a losing battle for you this time. Edit: fixed grammar.
@asianpersuasion4901 Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-dr6or goku doesn't know cloning. neither does piccolo or krillin or cell.
@aceclover758 Жыл бұрын
Piccilo and Krillin can use the multi form technique too just like Tien The former two did so against Nappa It’s just the form decreases your overall power by half for each clone you make so why it’s not good to use against a stronger opponent or someone on your level
@heavenlyweather117 Жыл бұрын
Idea for next video: How much power did Gohan gain when elder Kai unlocked his full potential
@rowan2445 Жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure he did that already
@Vexcron Жыл бұрын
@@rowan2445 no sir that’s cap
@crisalcantara7671 Жыл бұрын
A bit a bit more than 400× base gohan ,
@heavenlyweather117 Жыл бұрын
@@rodneysimpson11 how is that the same thing with what I'm asking?
@hectorlozano3354 Жыл бұрын
Another question, if Guru unlocked Gohan's hidden potential during the Namek arc, then did Gohan's potential go dormant again thereby requiring the Elder Kai to unlock it again?
@GutsBerserk832 Жыл бұрын
Your channel made me want to read the manga despite being a long time fan of the franchise keep up the great work! (:
@ilyas_elouchihi Жыл бұрын
You're missing out buddy
@CPhelps1247 Жыл бұрын
His videos finally made me go down on my wife. She’s very thankful.
@LSMMIKE Жыл бұрын
Glad to be of service.
@Luke973T Жыл бұрын
The manga is the true dragonball experience. The anime is amazing but the manga flows perfectly for the most part and gets to the point. The 5 minutes namek meme is because of anime filler. The fight seems way faster in the manga for example. The art is very consistent as well. There are color versions of the first two dbz arcs that are great too. Not sure about the rest of the series having color.
@badazztj Жыл бұрын
@@CPhelps1247 Bruh 🤣
@jongiamattei7478 Жыл бұрын
My man is making cinema. Grinding out content for us DAILY. Thanks so much. Keeps me going!
@ROTTERDXM Жыл бұрын
Dabura getting some time in the spotlight, HFIL yes!
@Ficehdulah Жыл бұрын
This channel is so cozy! At the end of the day I just kick back grab some dinner and relax to this :)
@DynastyZwarrior90 Жыл бұрын
The question is, how strong Dabura was pre-Majin boost? Kaioshin seemed to be afraid of him even without Babidi's control but still I'd say Cell would have an edge. Dabura (pre-Majin) should be around Full Power Cell (before exploding) considering Goku freaked out when he powered up and Kaioshin is compared to that same Goku in some guidebooks.
@justinarzola4584 Жыл бұрын
I always believed him to be stronger than cell and on ssj2 cell arc Gohan level.
@blaketindle4703 Жыл бұрын
@@justinarzola4584If that was that case Dabura would have dominated Gohan!
@justinarzola4584 Жыл бұрын
@@blaketindle4703 a fight with dabura and cell arc ssj2 Gohan would have either been a tie or dabura out matching him since they would be equal in power.
@mike0133 Жыл бұрын
@DynastyZwarrior90 i think it is irrelevant. Darbura is know like a Majin character. How strong he was before the Majin boost, doesn't change nothing. It's much more a useless curiosity.
@willdiesel8431 Жыл бұрын
@justinarzola4584 not at all. Kid Gohan would dog walk Dabura. SPC would dog walk Dabura. Dabura has to be one of the most arrogant villains ever and it doesn't bode well that he doesn't have a complete grasp on how strong the Saiyan trio is. That doesn't speak to him being on par with the SSJ2 power.
@TheMissingLink2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've been saying all this FOR YEARS. Too many Cell fans out here trying to twist the facts to prop up Cell. A few things I want to add on your excellent video: 1. Cell fought so well against the Z fighter because he was specifically designed to defeat them. He knew all of their techniques and how to best use them. He literally never fought anyone else (save for the androids, which he also knew everything about). 2. Dabura is an ancient veteran fighter. His experience is literally thousands of years worth of fighting. He has more than likely seen beings similar to Cell considering Cell is a combination of beings from the mortal plane, which Dabura is well versed with. He knows about Ki usage. He knows about magic. He knows about different races of being, Humans, Saiyans, Namekian, which is basically what Cell is. (Whether he knew what Frieza's race is, is fairly debatable). 3. Dabura never went all out against Gohan, as you mentioned. But even him dodging the blast Gohan did against Buu's shell doesn't mean anything. If it does, then characters dodging Ki blast in general can be used as an argument to show they're weaker than who's attacking, which is stupid. Why tank a shot when you can dodge it? Just doesn't make sense. A good example of this is the Saiyan Saga. Raditz vs Piccolo and Goku. Raditz is beyond a doubt superior to them both, even combined..... Although they were capble of hurting and killing Raditz in the long run, to argue that he was weaker because he dodged attacks would be insane to argue. Edit: Beyond that, in that moment, he was saving Babidi's life, who wasn't going to do anything but stand there and be vaporized.
@TalZadios15 күн бұрын
Dabura doesn't stand a chance against Vegeta and Vegeta knows it. Vegeta also complains when Gohan fights Dabura because he notices how much weaker Gohan is than during his fight with Cell and calls it "Absurd". That's Vegeta basically stating that Gohan would destroy Dabura in his prime while simultaneously saying Cell is basically stronger than Dabura at that time too because he gave Gohan a real run for his money in the end there after his Zenkai boost from nearly dying.
@TheMissingLink214 күн бұрын
@@TalZadios Dude, you have no idea what you're even talking about. 1. It's already been established that Dabura was holding back against Gohan. Dabura literally at not point is tired. In the manga, the holy grail of dragonball, he doesn't even break a sweat and literally calls Gohan trash to his face..... And this is after fighting him.... 2. Goku pegged Dabura's power around Cell's level BEFORE he and Gohan even started fighting. This is important because Goku is talking about Cell's power overall maxed, meaning Super Perfect Cell. Later, once he and Gohan starts fighting, Goku acknowledges that he underestimated Dabura's strength. Vegeta AGREES with him. However, it doesn't matter for them because they are both SUPERIOR to the max power of teen Gohan at his peak by this point. 3. Teen gohan was VASTLY stronger than cell. This was stated in an interview by Akira Toriyama HIMSELF. He said, Gohan all along had the power to defeat cell, but his own self doubt is what caused the struggle. This is 1000% supported by the events of the story. Goku at EVERY POINT during the fight with Cell told him that he was stronger and could defeat him easily if he didn't hold back. This was true at every single point on their struggle. 4. Moreover, Gohan was injured when he defeated Cell. Gohan stated that due to his arm being broken, he had lost access to over half of his power. But even then, when he FINALLY stopped holding back, he COMPLETELY overwhelmed Cell. It wasn't even close. With less than half of his power, with a broken arm, he absolutely destroyed him. Cell NEVER stood a chance against Gohan. Even after a Zenkai boost and powering up to the max, he wasn't even HALF as strong as Gohan was. That's absolutely wild to comprehend, but that is the truth.... 5. Beyond this, Gohan was a scared little boy who HATED fighting, who had just lost his father, while fighting a literal monster. Sure, this is only a cartoon, but the perspective of this being a real life event, damn near every kid would be struggling to win this battle. 6. Dabura is stronger than SSJ Goku. How do we know this? Because Babidi measured Goku's power when fighting Yarkon and Dabura was unimpressed.... Now, you're gonna ask, why that's important. It's because, unequivocally, SSJ Goku is VASTLY STRONGER than SSJ Gohan at this point. There is not a single person who would argue otherwise. In the anime, Dabura states that even a being who's power is 4,000 kilis cannot harm him. SSJ Goku's power level was 3,000 kilis. 7. On top of all of this, this entire video is dedicated to showing you the proof that Dabura is stronger.... It's not an opinion. It's not cap. It's literally the truth. Dabura being stronger than Cell doesn't diminish Cell. It is just what it is. Please stop.
@reddeath26 Жыл бұрын
I think it would largely come down to their personalities. Cell has shown a weakness for playing around too much with his opponents. I am not sure if Dabura would do the same? He has shown he is ready to catch opponents off guard and go for the spit right off the bat. I agree that Cell wouldn't be prepared for that. Cell would also potentially drastically underestimate Dabura.
@codesm96 Жыл бұрын
You must be kidding me. His regeneration ability alone and the fact that he knows all the techniques the other fighters use is something puts the Z fighters at a greater disadvantage compared to Dabura.
@pianoandguitarlover27737 ай бұрын
@@codesm96 Dabura's greatest trump card is his stone spit. Its pretty a much a one-shot kill.
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos man! And congrats on the 50,000,000 millestone!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@meburritoloco7475 Жыл бұрын
I think perfect Cell takes it. Dabura has his stone spit, but Cell can lob off a limb or any part of his body that's spit on so long as his 'core' isn't affected. His regen isn't infinite, but he did regenerate from near atomization via self destruction. The moment Cell figures out the stone spit, he'll just do his best to dodge. If we want to give Cell powerup via zenkai boosts, his odds are even better. Cell has the techniques of the Z-Fighters, he's got the evolution factor. Dabura might have some magical hacks we don't know about, but I don't see many win cons for the Demon King. It just depends on how Cell reacts to being spit on
@TheMissingLink2 Жыл бұрын
You don't know what you're talking about..... Cell had no idea what Zenkai boost was or is. That was something the Z fighters learned about in space and ONLY then. Gero's computer couldn't know specifically the details or how it works, because the drone wasn't there. Heck, it even missed A LOT of information when they got back to earth. He does not get zenkai boost in a normal way, as if he did, being hit by Vegeta's Final Flash and Goku's Instant Kamehameha would have given him one as they were mortal wounds. And they did not. Cell ONLY got it from attempting to kill himself which IS NOT how Zenkai works, as stated by Vegeta (self inflicting wounds does not cause it). His recombinant genetic code or gero's computer's work resulted in it working this way specifically. So relying on Zekai boost to win is totally out of the question for Cell entirely..... I mean, he doesn't even know if he COULD self-destruct again and come back from it. Literally none of us do. It's a huge gamble to risk. For all we know, it was a one time deal... Also, just like many others, you have a fundamental misunderstanding on how Dabura's spit works. When it lands of the skin, the entire body starts to change instantly. This is CLEARLY seen with Piccolo and Krillen. Gohan's got it on his glove, which is why he himself did not turn to stone. Cell wouldn't even have reaction time to "lob off his head". And even if he did, having to regenerate his entire body would drain a MASSIVE amount of energy from him... Lastly, Dabura is a well versed fighter. I think many forget that he's the king of the demon realm THROUGH FORCE aka he fought his way to the top and remains there. His experience is battle is beyond Cell's by leagues. Cell was made specifically to combat the Z fighters, and has been proven VERY ineffective when encountering something he has no prior knowledge about, such as SSJ, or Ki techniques he has never seen before. And he certainly has ZERO experience with magic.... or even fighters that use weapons. Not to mention Cell is WAAAAAAAY more prideful and arrogant than Dabura by a country mile. He VERY much overestimates himself/is very overconfident. Dabura can be cocky, but he is also extremely rational and will quickly correct himself if he's ever wrong (as he did with Buu, something he is famously remembered for by fans for warning Babidi about). Not to mention, still to this day, we've never seen Dabura go all out. He still held back in the anime, and in the Manga, he didn't even break a sweat. Literally called Gohan trash after fighting him....I don't think he was being overconfident there at all.....As we've established, he is cocky but rational....
@aceclover758 Жыл бұрын
It was interesting to me despite being under Babidi’s influence, Dabura was able to keep rational thought and debate his master on how dangerous Buu was He only underestimated Buu at the start (just like Gohan did) beceuse Buu didn’t power up. Base state, Buu can be a weakling (as Goku and Vegeta at their full powers weren’t impressed at first either, meaning Buu before powering up was weaker than a ssj2), but can power up suddenly and very fast, as Gohan instantly went from tryna fight him to running away. Dabura found out too late too once his eyes got poked but understood as well Buu was not weakling
@similorradique2670 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissingLink2 cap
@meburritoloco7475 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissingLink2 The only reason this is even a debate is because Goku compares the two directly. More specifically a statement that Debora is as strong as Cell. Goku then later saying he's stronger than initially thought, therefore he should be above Cell. I don't think this applies to SPC, because the Gohan that fought Cell is not only more powerful than the Gohan fighting Debora, but Gohan was countering all of Debora's hacks/tactics. This same Gohan is weaker than the Gohan from the Cell Saga due to not having the rage behind his power. Goku even notes Gohan would need the rage to return to his prime and Vegeta just simply says he isn't the same as when he was a child. There is an argument for Gohan getting strong in the Buu saga after Kabito healed him. People will go as far as to say this applies to Teen Gohan and means Adult Buu Saga Gohan after being healed by Kabito > SSJ2 Gohan. But the statement is so vague and can be interpreted in many ways instead of just saying "He's stronger than his teen self" because Vegeta still says he's trash compared to his teen self after this. So that argument doesn't hold water and at best means he's just stronger than he was at the start of the Buu saga who can combat Debora in a "high-diff' fight when apparently he's meditating and powering up beforehand. And Debora's statement about being confident about being able to fight Goku and Vegeta doesn't work, because 1: Gohan was still doing decent against him anyway and 2: Debora was down to fight Majin Buu, so his confidence literally means nothing. What you don't understand is feats > statements. You can say Gohan was weakened when defeating Cell, but he gets power amps from Goku stated multiple times. (Vol. 35/ Chapter 415 for source.) Cell was legit beating Gohan until Gohan caught him by surprise thanks to Vegeta attacking him. It is also stated in the daizenshuu. (This is the manga stating this, not a character.) That SPC is the strongest being at this time, including SSJ2 Gohan. And to back this up even more, Cell bullies Grade 4 Gohan in terms of full power and Gohan cannot beat him in any way without his rage boost or SSJ2. Even when semi enraged in SSJ, Cell is letting Gohan hit him and Cell is still not taking any damage. After the self-destruct and reformation, Cell states he got a powerup similar to that of SSJ2 Gohan. This makes sense, because Cell does have Saiyain cells in him and it's already a debate to say if Cell can even go SSJ or not. So to say that SPC is a relative amp to that of SSJ2 doesn't contradict anything, because pre SSJ2 amp, Cell was already above Gohan and now it's still the same, just them in SSJ2. So let me make this easy for you. That means Cell scales above a Gohan who's stronger than himself at the start of the Buu Saga that's relative to Debora. Cell > SSJ2 Teen Gohan > Starting Buu Saga Gohan >~< Deborah, so Cell is mopping the floor with Deborah. So let me reiterate my original comment. THE STONE SPIT IS DEBORA's ONLY WIN CONDITION. You claim "The entire body starts to change instantly" But unfortunately for the manga here, we don't know how much time passes in between panels. Any other medium depicts the characters with a few seconds to say gross before the petrification happens. Any interactions between the two after that is head-cannon at best. Cell still has the versatility advantage and can regenerate from almost anything, he needs atomized to be stopped. I like Debora, his character design is sick and he has one of the more interesting movesets of anyone in DBZ we've seen, I wish we got more of him, which from the looks of it, Toriyama is finally giving the man some much needed screen time. Unfortunately, he gets destroyed as is and gets sidelined for Majin Buu.
@wheres_lalo Жыл бұрын
What if he keeps spitting multiple times
@DogOfWar643 күн бұрын
Dabura really out here giving people that hawk tuah
@ShebbaYoung Жыл бұрын
Video Idea: How Vegeta came up with "Vegeta's Technique"!
@devaunnjones3033 Жыл бұрын
This is way This is the best dragon ball channel on KZbin
@AntiOTRS Жыл бұрын
Its funny how Dragon Ball Comunity still talk about Z and not Super. Lol
@aryzod.2635 күн бұрын
I never got into Super cuz.. honestly, the new designs just kind of suck. "Saiyan God" which is kinda cringe already, gets bubble gum blue hair, and all the villains are kind of boring. Orange Piccolo and Beast Gohan are alright, and Moro looks pretty cool, design wise he is on Cell/Buu/Frieza Level in my opinion so thats a positive
@AntiOTRS5 күн бұрын
@aryzod.263 Also to add! They ruined Future Trunks!
@StareachValcin Жыл бұрын
While it is debatable who is stronger between super perfect Cell and Dabura, I honestly think that Cell has the slight edge.
@darkbornelines4587 Жыл бұрын
man your videoes about DB makes me remember how great the manga was - feel like rereading it
@rodseller9936 Жыл бұрын
I love your content mike. To be honest it's never ending the debate.
@lightningmuhqween4828 Жыл бұрын
The only way I see Dabura winning is if he spammed his spit and even then he would have to be fast enough to effectively hit Cell, however, Cell would have to have the reaction speed to evade him.
@ilyas_elouchihi Жыл бұрын
If Dabura spit on him Cell can cut his body parts and regenerate
@realBatman-89 Жыл бұрын
How many times can he spit before his mouth goes dry?
@herculesburgess6773 Жыл бұрын
LightningMuhQween Or he could just his mouth flame breath to melt cell point blank.
@castlefreeland Жыл бұрын
@@ilyas_elouchihi Regeneration is still a small drain on Cell’s Ki. Although I don’t think Dabura lands more than one spit in that fight once Cell figured out what’s going on.
@TheFinalChapters Жыл бұрын
@@ilyas_elouchihi Regeneration is useless against Dabura. It takes so long that Dabura would just turn the rest into stone long before the regeneration is complete.
@maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336 Жыл бұрын
The best way I can see Cell winning is using the Solar Flare, which he uses a lot, and then uses his tail to drain Dabura’s life force.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Жыл бұрын
I also forgot SPC had the instant transmission as well aslo Frieza's death saucers
@chi461112 күн бұрын
Can’t believe I’ve just found a db channel of this quality, good video
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Жыл бұрын
I think cell would win if he blew himself up as a last resort
@shadowmaverick15 Жыл бұрын
If he figured out how to do that safely after the 1st time he could just spam the move , even if the explosion doesnt hurt Dabura enough Zenkai boosts would give Cell the win
@RockerxxRicardo Жыл бұрын
@@shadowmaverick15 wouldn't the move blow up the entire planet If cell blew up? Not sure if Dabura can breathe in space and even if he could I'm sure he wouldn't walk away unscratched.
@jiveequation186 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t Dabura just turn him into stone before he blows up?
@jiveequation186 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubestudiosucks978 idk about that you’re assuming a lot, it’s magic and it happens almost instantly
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Жыл бұрын
@@jiveequation186well cell could probably blow up before he turns to stone
@lightspd7146 ай бұрын
Mike you are the best dragonball KZbinr!
@MrShaggy524 Жыл бұрын
The work you put in is literally all I ever wish I could, but don't have the time nor the energy to put in the effort. Thanks for being so deeply passionate about Dragon Ball and bringing up such spectacular moments that goes unoticed by so many people, while analyzing perfectly everything that wonders the fanbase for so long.
@Rude_Boi Жыл бұрын
@@5Ci0NWell aren't you a ray of sunshine..
@thinmintthemonkey2435 Жыл бұрын
@@5Ci0N "And the prodigal asshole returns" Seriously dude, you're here, you're on his video. Did you REALLY come here JUST to shit on this?
@RandomGameplayPimpin4 ай бұрын
As a logical fan of dragonball I'm glad to see Dabura win this comparison. Dabura is in my opinion is one of the better designed villians from the DragonBall universe.
@Giges55611 ай бұрын
“The statement is clear: Dabura and Super Perfect Cell are comparable. Why would someone think Goku is referring to a weaker form of Cell? That makes no sense. And if that’s the case, why not First Form Cell? Obviously, they are talking about the form that almost killed everybody. The statement is there to make us understand that they are way stronger now and to amplify Buu’s power.”
@kiz55629 ай бұрын
alot of fans online still believe that dabura is only on par with supressed perfect or regular perfect cell. Its a shame that toriyama never clarified in the manga/anime that goku's statement was about SPC.
@dtownwaxx4817 Жыл бұрын
Man I just looked at your subscribers and I can't believe you're not close to a million.. I been subscribed for a long time and you deserve way more than you have. every single video you dropped in recent months been off the chain❤
@NtheHecker Жыл бұрын
I'd say that from a writers perspective full powered Majin Dabura was always meant to be as powerful as the strongest version of dbz-Cell. So it would come down to techniques and hax abilities. Yes, Dabura has his spit. But don't forget Cell has every technique of any Z fighter stored in his DNA. I would say that gives Super perfect Cell the edge.
@permquestor218 Жыл бұрын
But the problem is that perfect cell is extremely cocky and loves to toy around with his opponents, dabura is more serious than Cell,even if Cell's regeneration would allow him to resist his spit stone abilities, let's not forget that powerful attacks can overwhelm Perfect cell's stamina and since the more he regenerates it takes a toll on his stamina (and i think his regeneration slows down when he's low on stamina), and if dabura slows down cells regeneration and exhausts him of his stamina then he could potentially either turn cell into stone or just destroy him by destroying all of his cells
@NtheHecker Жыл бұрын
@@permquestor218 Dabura is just as cocky and also likes to toy with his opponents, since he's basically a devil. How would Dabura react to a well aimed destructo disk? Pretty sure that would one-shot him if it hits. So Cell has one shot options too. And his move would actually work on Dabura since he has no regeneration. Cell also has Saiyan DNA. He can grow stronger during a fight like he did against Gohan. Other than that he can breathe in space, knows the Kamehameha, can multiply himself. Lets not bring up a possible Kaio Ken that he actually should know but never used for some reason 😂. Cell just has way more options than Dabura.
@permquestor218 Жыл бұрын
@@NtheHecker Fair enough
@childofembers Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this topic and you didn't disappoint. Unless cell gained knowledge of the stone spit he's at a disadvantage. I would love to see if dabura's flame would cauterize cell during an attempted regeneration of a limb (can't see dabura surviving a self-destruct if the fight gets that far) Keep up the entertaining videos and polls LSM 👍
@TheFinalChapters Жыл бұрын
Dabura doesn't have to survive a self-destruct. It takes so long that Dabura would just turn him to stone before he could detonate.
@codesm96 Жыл бұрын
Dabura is at a heavy disadvantage due to all of Cell's inherited abilities. Cell would WRECK Dabura
@Str8savage87 Жыл бұрын
I think Cell would take the W against Dabura just cause he is able to adjust and adapt ,chances are Cell would come back in a more powered up form maybe similar to Super Sayian 3 just a theory though
@marcosmendez8805 Жыл бұрын
You are reaching my guy lol
@ilyas_elouchihi Жыл бұрын
Perfect Cell definitely has the upper hand..
@pattersong6637 Жыл бұрын
IMO depends totally on if Cell knows beforehand about Dabura's spit. Dabura gets a cheap shot in on that and it's over. If Cell knows to look out for that that gets different pretty quickly.
@blaketindle4703 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@crisalcantara7671 Жыл бұрын
@@pattersong6637true
@Hawkson19 Жыл бұрын
@pattersong6637 Cell would just rip off his limb if he saw that he was turning into stone.
@NyBeans92 Жыл бұрын
He could use tien’s cloning technique.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Жыл бұрын
Mike I'm glad you came back, will you ever put background music again?
@LSMMIKE Жыл бұрын
Possibly. However, I've experimented using music with my current style during the editing process and don't believe it flows as well compared to with my previous style. So, I'm going to continue without it for the time being.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Жыл бұрын
@@LSMMIKEunderstandable
@robertsmart2995 Жыл бұрын
Another idea for a video topic kind of similar to your ssj3 Goku vs boo video: Could the “Z Team” actually have won if they had rushed bobodi’s ship right away and risked boo getting released early from the shock, or would boo’s crazy regeneration, magic and absorption allow it to still prove too much even at partial power?
@pianoandguitarlover27737 ай бұрын
Buu is almost like a gag character. He has far too many hax abilities that make him an unfair opponent to fight.
@ojpickle5923 Жыл бұрын
Both have win conditions but Cell has more ways to kill dabura than dabura does to Cell
@realBatman-89 Жыл бұрын
Boom
@herculesburgess6773 Жыл бұрын
All dabura really have to do is use his mouth breath flame to melt cell to easily win.
@justinarzola4584 Жыл бұрын
Dabura has more potential with magic.
@TheFinalChapters Жыл бұрын
What, exactly, is Cell's win condition?
@Vexcron Жыл бұрын
@@TheFinalChapterssimply being stronger
@thewildananas Жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I just discovered you and it's worth staying longer
@jasonelmore95274 ай бұрын
What a lot of people don't seem to think about is that when bobbidi controls someone he makes them stronger, like spopovich or vegeta, and although dabura is already a demonic being in the first place, he would probably get stronger too. So if cell became majin as well he would get an increase in power. Of course that probably wouldn't make a difference
@MurkN Жыл бұрын
If Cell knows how to use the Kaioken then that could tip the scale in his favor
@pianoandguitarlover27737 ай бұрын
Doesn't Buu know how to use it also? Buu can copy techniques.
@hatsusama32965 ай бұрын
@@pianoandguitarlover2773 Bu never saw kaioken in bu arc but i think his mimicry cant be done for every tecnique
@vherdelviperblade753 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Dabura winning. Even if they're about equal powerlevel wise, they do both have options to win. Cell could potentially use solar flare to blind Dabura and the shoot a kienzan or special beam cannon, and he does have regeneration. But depending on the damage regeneration can take a bit, wich leaves him completely open to Dabura's stone spit, and I think Dabura's flame spit could potentially completely obliterate Cell too, if not damaging him enough for regeneration to take a while, thus leaving him open. Considering Cell took a while to regenerate losing his upper body to Goku, a sword hit could potentially do the same, once again leaving Cell's regenerating body open to stone spit.
@codesm96 Жыл бұрын
That isn't Super Perfect Cell. Super Perfect Cell would have EASILY tanked Goku's point blank full power Instant Transmission Kamehameha without needing to regenerate a single body part. Another very stupid DBZ fan who proves he doesn't actually watch the show or understand it properly and is using their own head canon to make stuff up.
@TheBloodyNights Жыл бұрын
I think the spit technique while it might catch Cell off guard, I don't really think it would end him. Gohan was able to rip off his glove in response to the spit, so it obviously doesn't immediately just begin to stone whoever's effected immediately. It also doesn't seem like an attack that can just be used very effectively for combat when it's known about. King Kai's ability to sense others and talk to them, hasn't been shown that the user he is letting communicate with can sense energy levels. But it's probably a moot point, and Toriyama was probably referring to Super Perfect Cell anyways. Just wanted to point that out. In all honesty I'd say they are very extremely relative to each other in terms of power. Dabura could be slightly stronger, or slightly weaker. Dabura could even be stronger initially and as the fight drags on Cell powers up some due to his saiyan genes. But honestly Cell's techniques are superior to Dabura's by a long shot. Solar Flare, Instant Transmission, Tail Suckage, Massive Regeneration, A self destruct that doesn't kill Cell, Frieza and Krillin's Discs of slicey pizza. 17's ki barrier. Multiple versions of powerful Energy attacks. A super Strong Jaw Line to top it off. Almost all of Dabura's techniques that were shown wouldn't be all that effective against Cell other than the spit. So if I'm being honest...I'd give the win to Cell over all.
@TheMissingLink2 Жыл бұрын
Gohan had already seen Dabura use his spit technique used prior, not to mention he blocked it with his glove. Moreover Supreme Kai literally yelled at him to warn him about the danger which he had already forgotten about..... Cell doesn't stand a chance.
@BlackWingedSeraphX4 ай бұрын
@@TheMissingLink2 All of Cell's named attacks would kill Dabura. If he gets spit on he'll just blast off the limb. Cell can make barriers too. Saying he "doesn't stand a chance" makes you look slow.
@TheMissingLink24 ай бұрын
@@BlackWingedSeraphX Did you even watch this video? Everything you just said is nonsense that is disproved by this very video. lol You're a total fool.
@jasonmoxey7845 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this match😊
@maniacslap1623 Жыл бұрын
When they went into the ship, the way that Goku and Vegeta won tells me they massively out powered Babadi’s henchmen. I always assumed Goku and Vegeta were just reaching and surpassing ss2 teen Gohan. I always assumed Adult Gohan was weaker until the Z Sword put him back in shape. So Dabura getting clapped by Super Perfect Cell. Nice Video
@blaketindle4703 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@willdiesel8431 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much my sentiments exactly.
@SamsarasArt Жыл бұрын
They're about equal in terms of power so it forms down to abilities. If Dabura can land a spit attack, he could win unless Cell counteracts the stone by immediately severing what was spat on and regrowing it with his regeneration. If Cell is able to do that then I'd give the edge to him. He has a massive arsenal at his disposable including the aforementioned regeneration.
@tomfoolery7797 Жыл бұрын
I think cell could just tear off the affected area of the spit attack and regenerate. On top of that he has instant transmission.
@ssj4ssbgogeta957 Жыл бұрын
One thing about Cell’s regeneration is that it does lower his power level so against an opponent of relative strength it might lead to Cell being at a disadvantage power wise post regeneration.
@lightningmuhqween4828 Жыл бұрын
If Cell successfully avoids being turned to stone, Dabura won't get a second chance because Cell can just speed blitz him and finish the fight being privy to the danger his spit poses.
@Jiron127 Жыл бұрын
Cell is a tier above dabura lol. Dabura is not spc level. Had gohan gone ss2 in the fight with dabura. Dabura would've lost against buu arc gohan with mid to high difficulty.
@Jiron127 Жыл бұрын
@@WaveForcefulThat's true. But they didn't say he was significantly above "perfect cell not spc". In fact, they may have been referring to dabura use of magic + power. Any ss2 beats dabura. He only fought fpssj gohan and did have issues. Albeit holding back.
@genghisdingus14 күн бұрын
How I see it going: Cell and Dabura fight equally until they have both exhausted about half their energy. Dabura lands a spit attack due to Cell being a little tired / caught off guard. Cell takes his head off and loses a ton of energy. They fight some more then Dabura lands another spit attack. Same response from Cell but he is now too tired to win.
@GrubKiller436 Жыл бұрын
The gap between Perfect Cell and kid Ssj2 Gohan (full power) is ambiguous. Remember, Gohan got in the Kamehameha clash with Super Perfect Cell when he had only half his power left. Both Dabura and Super Perfect Cell are somewhere between Perfect Cell and kid Ssj2 Gohan full power. Good video btw.
@TheXimena711 Жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm
@ojpickle5923 Жыл бұрын
13:40 it looks like only one of his hands are stone in that image. Its likely that krillin just touched his face in between images because the other hand looks normal
@JenovahX Жыл бұрын
I think the anime shows Krillin trying to clean the spit with his hand. I might be wrong tho..
@Kaiser_MHA3 ай бұрын
I’m late to the party but you can see in the panel before he starts turning to stone that Krillin is trying to wipe the spit off with the back of his hand.
@CodiacMusic4 ай бұрын
Goku gave himself self inflicted zenkai the entire way to Namek
@Thromaz Жыл бұрын
I think I just realized that when Gohan defeated Sel, like the actual, literal moment, he may have blasted him with power on in some way relative Ultimate Gohan.... Being that is IS his Unleashed full potential and remembering how he went form PL of I think 13,000 (and rising) being his last known stat to harming 1,000,000+ Freeza So if I'm right about that then measuring either of them against Gohan wouldn't help at all
@williamzeo2493 Жыл бұрын
Dabura as a plot device served to show that Cell level of power wasn't nothing anymore and for him to be weaker would make no sense, also he can create weapons and an armed fighter have more advantage than an unarmed one, specially in this case that both have almost the same power level.
@TheMissingLink2 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention, people seemingly forget that Cell was designed SPECIFICALLY to counter the Z-fighters. He has ZERO experience or knowledge with anyone else or any type of opponent that wasn't on earth. Dabura, on the other hand is the strongest being in the demon realm, who has fought for literally thousands of years against various opponents (not to mention knowledge of beings in the mortal realm).
@codesm96 Жыл бұрын
'You should know that a weapon doesn't make the man' - Future Trunks confronting King Cold. Weapons are obsolete
@codesm96 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissingLink2 You are the dumbest DBZ fan I have ever seen in my entire life. Frieza, Vegeta, Piccolo and Goku have more than enough fighting intuition and experience, Cell was already an advanced level fighter because of this. How do you think he schooled Trunks and was able to match Goku move for move at half his full power level? His fighting skill is superior because those fighters were special when it came to adapting to any new enemy very quickly ESPECIALLY Goku of all people. Get off Dabura's nuts, he is literally the Dodoria of the Buu saga.
@kiz55628 ай бұрын
exactly. its a plothole that toriyama made, and the manga is far too vague and confusing. makes 0 sense for goku to compare dabura to semiperfect or suppressed perfect cell. dabura was used as a measuring stick to compare from the previous saga to show how much stronger the villains are now.
@pianoandguitarlover27737 ай бұрын
@kiz5562 Dabura is meant as a character to be as strong as the most powerful version of the previous main villain, which was Super Perfect Cell. So that when the new big bad of the new arc Majin Buu flicks Dabura aside like he was nothing, it is to show just how much more powerful the new main villain is compared to the last.
@JozialOfficial Жыл бұрын
Been watching you for years and this is the first time I’ve commented. I hold your opinions on dragon ball to a very high standard because you’ve shown in every video your vast knowledge of the series. It’s just sad to see that even with a 28 minutes video giving ample evidence to show that Dabura has the upper hand and would very likely beat Super Perfect Cell if it came down to a 1v1, you still have people saying “uhhhhh idk I still say Cell has the edge on Dabura” 💀
@charzanboo9940 Жыл бұрын
If sensing power levels was possible by putting your hand on King Kai's shoulder, then Piccolo should not have been surprised at Frieza's power level after being wished to planet Namek (and this was before Frieza's first transformation). Piccolo specifically tells Gohan he can beat Frieza, which, if he was wrong, would risk the same loss of Earth's Dragon Balls again. Ergo, Goku didn't sense Super Perfect Cell's power level but was giving SSJ2 Gohan motivation talk.
@GrubKiller436 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't just giving Ssj2 Gohan motivation talk. He explicitly knew and stated that Gohan was not using his full power. This is Toriyama we are talking about here, who has no problem giving Goku special abilities. Don't forget all the shit Goku has done in the past like being able to sense people's intentions. And also Toriyama isn't going to purposely confuse readers that Goku's is inaccurately gauging Cell's power levels. Because why the heck is Toriyama going to intentionally confuse people? It should be clear he is referring to Cell's most powerful form.
@monkeyking6176 ай бұрын
Great analysis! Although, it always bothers me in these hypothetical matchups, “who would win” or “Death Battle” suggests there’s a clear winner…. but Vegeta and Goku have fought many times…. Hulk and Wolverine fought many times…. Superman raced the Flash many times, etc, and the results depend on many factors, circumstances, and most importantly what the writer is going for. So these comparisons always seem two-dimensional and omit the fact that these duels are in the context of a greater story that involves fate hanging in the balance. Nevertheless, you investigated thoroughly and made a fantastic video, my money would be on Dabura if it came down to it, keep up the good work!
@mike0133 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but i can't imagine a fight with Darbura spitting every second and Cell trying to avoid it with instant trasmission spamming 😂. Like a lot of fight, it would be more physical and less tactics-techniques based.
@Tigerfire754 ай бұрын
Just use Popeyes biscuits without a drink on Dabura. He won't be able to spit then.
@gmuesfrucht9499 Жыл бұрын
Obviosly Krillin touched his face after being spit at. good vid.
@Kaiser_MHA3 ай бұрын
Just a small detail: the reason Krillin’s hand started turning to stone too is because if you look at the panel just before, he is wiping the spit off his face with the back of his hand, meaning he got it on his hand.
@negationf6973 Жыл бұрын
One thing that is worth noting, is that Cell was distracted by Vegeta, when Gohan overpowered him in their final struggle. If Injured SSJ2 Gohan was still way above him, I don't think he would've needed to exploit that distraction to win. Personally, I think your selling Cell a bit short in terms of power.
@cosmosofinfinity Жыл бұрын
So even a tired exhausted Gohan can destroy a solar system with half his ki and one arm, and Cell can go much further than that and was still holding back? Is Cell saying he can destroy an entire system with the ki he had charged up just right there in that moment, or theoretically with all his total energy reserves if he spent it all traveling all day from planet to planet blasting everything? ... What if Dabura applied spit to his fists?
@elijahwatjen9839 Жыл бұрын
Then dabura becomes op af
@blackshogun272 Жыл бұрын
@@elijahwatjen9839 we don't even know the number of potent magic/demonic abilities Dabura has at his command. What if dude has a spell that gives him a power boost akin to kaioken? Since him and Demigra are potentially the same species of demon, does dude have a monster form that could straight demolish his opponents and warp space-time? There's a lot of wasted potential with Dabura. Should've pulled a Darkseid from DC and explained that the (stereotype lookin ass) demon lord that battled Gohan was one of his "weaker" avatars.
@countprophet5881 Жыл бұрын
@@blackshogun272 The franchise not exploring the Demon realm in general has been wasted opportunity. There's some story potential in there, but sadly no interest in exploring it.
@blackshogun272 Жыл бұрын
@@countprophet5881 there's more than enough growing room for new stories and stuff in the Dragon Ball universe(s). At times it feels the franchise is deliberately stalling itself from rising to greater heights.
@blaketindle4703 Жыл бұрын
We don’t know which version of Cell Goku was talking about. You can guess all you want but it’s not stated.
@willdiesel8431 Жыл бұрын
For Goku to reference a suppressed version of Perfect Cell means that it's even more pathetic that Gohan couldn't do more damage to him. Also Goku wants his son to get mad like he did as a child in order to bring forth more power. That wouldn't be needed because Dabura is trash tier even when compared to a suppressed PC.
@kiz55627 ай бұрын
the manga is way too open-ended and vague. storyline wise, it makes more sense for dabura = spc. but alot of fans are convinced dabura is only suppressed cell level or even lower. i've always believed that goku was referring to the last form of cell we all saw, which was spc. gohan v dabura is basically gohan v cell (round2), except gohan cant beat him since he's weaker since cellsaga.
@cedricmayfield7105 Жыл бұрын
Mike any chance we could get Nail vs Vegeta before the Ginyu Force came. Also power unlocked Gohan vs Vegeta before the Ginyu Force!
@cjvaye99 Жыл бұрын
in an evenly matched fight always go with the guy that can regenerate 😂
@TheFinalChapters Жыл бұрын
Whether Dabura or Cell is stronger, they're relative to each other. Who exactly is stronger doesn't matter, because Dabura wins by turning Cell to stone. Cell's most broken feature, his regeneration, is utterly useless against being turned to stone. Cell can't just regenerate instantly; it takes time. More than enough time for Dabura to also turn the rest of the body to stone, assuming Cell is able to rip off the stoned part in time in the first place.
@basimali619 Жыл бұрын
Dabura wouldn’t initially know of cell’s regeneration, possibly depending on how the fight goes. Once cell regenerates, it’s unlikely dabura will be able to pull it off again
@TheFinalChapters Жыл бұрын
@@basimali619 Other way around. It's unlikely Cell would know about the spit and again unlikely he would be able to avoid being spit on a second time even if he gets lucky the first.
@BZgA Жыл бұрын
SSJ2 Gohan > SP Cell > SSJ2 Gohan with 1 arm > Dabura = Perfect Cell = SSJ2 Gohan Adult
@fruit319312 күн бұрын
12:30 To be fair, Krillin was shown in the previous manga panel trying to wipe Dabura's spit off. He probably got some on his hand in that way, which is why the petrification was also spreading on his hand, not just his head.
@bobbyhardy9418 Жыл бұрын
We definitely needed this video I been wondering the same thing for years
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Жыл бұрын
Mike actually changed my mind I understand know that Dabura is slight stronger then cell maybe
@deejayxcrypt14 күн бұрын
14:44 That’s the smart/logical way to think about it. But it is the same as saying “you honestly believe that a character in this franchise would just wait for the other fighter to power up even further?” :D
@Kenjitsuka Жыл бұрын
They *did* get pretty stoned! XD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Жыл бұрын
Super Perfect Cell beats Legendary Super Saiyan Broly Full Power Bojack, Hatchiyack, and maybe Demon King Dabura
@ilyas_elouchihi Жыл бұрын
Cell is just different
@kiz55627 ай бұрын
Broly didnt get a scratch on him from all the z-fighters attacking him, until goku powered up and made him implode from the ki overload. Broly > SPC ~ Dabura ~ Bojack.
@southcac24 Жыл бұрын
These two fought in the DBZ Multiverse Tournament and it was awesome! Dabura tried turning Cell to stone and Cell just rid off his own head then regenerated.
@Matzahfiend Жыл бұрын
Dude, in the panel where you're talking about Dabura's spit, you can clearly see it moved to Krillin's hand because he wiped his face. No magic moving spit.
@mobparker Жыл бұрын
DBM is fan fiction...unlike DBS where Future Trunks fought Dabura. He never slacked off like Gohan and he trained with Supreme Kai. The fight wasn't easy and their was no mention of Future Dabura being weaker like the Androids.
@basimali619 Жыл бұрын
We can’t know for sure, trunks never even met present dabura.
@plains7000 Жыл бұрын
If I were Jimmy Firecracker I would of said to my spectator filming crew Fuck it we're out of here and skedaddle'd after the camera broke whilst Gohan was overpowering Cell. Damn this reporter and his Spectator film crew really love their jobs.😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@justmike7994 Жыл бұрын
Its Top Right Mike from Laughingstock Media at this point 😆
@jamesmejia1680 Жыл бұрын
great talking points, I think what youre saying holds weight and Dabra would win. I think Cell would win though if he had previous knowledge of Dabra's techniques, you made a good point about the fantasy arch that frfr he wouldn't even know to rip his head off arguably. I also think its a possiblity that Dabra wouldn't know to fully destroy Cell's core. He would probably end up turning him to stone, tipping him over and calling it a day, not knowing Cells core may still be intact. Im not sure what Cell could do if his core is not fully obliterated in such a way. I could see cell pulling some dipshit move, self destuct from the core come back jocking all of dabras techniques, lol.
@fjod16896 ай бұрын
The anime version was better since the all Z fighters came to help Gohan but still stupid how they did it, instead of attacking Cell from behind they should have helped Gohan by shooting their best techniques together with Gohan´s Kamehameha
@Sheikah_Architect21 күн бұрын
12:45 Krillin still being in that pose implies the speed of the stone spit is pretty much almost instant imo
@BiggieCheeseJr. Жыл бұрын
Mike when are you going to do another Q&A? I've been addicted to those videos lol
@LSMMIKE Жыл бұрын
I'll do another one eventually. Already have tons of videos planned and scheduled out, so I'll have to figure out the exact timing.
@BiggieCheeseJr. Жыл бұрын
Oh okay, I was just curious. I'll probably participate in the next one lol. Do you still have a Twitter? I used your link in older videos and it says the account doesn't exist.
@LSMMIKE Жыл бұрын
No, I deleted my Twitter years ago. I do have an Instagram though which you can find in this video description.
@BiggieCheeseJr. Жыл бұрын
I already followed it the other day. Good on you though, Twitter is a horrible mess that I stay away from most of the time too
@Wimplo86 Жыл бұрын
I like Cell as a character way more than Dabura so I’ll be cheering for him regardless
@pianoandguitarlover27737 ай бұрын
Cell is kind of boring. Especially Perfect Cell. He's just a budget Freeza.
@shadowcell1184 Жыл бұрын
The real question is do we know if Dabura's spit has a limit, we know that alot of the one shot moves stop working on higher power leveled characters, some not working at all on certain characters for other reasons too.
@uaeoaeoeoi Жыл бұрын
The limit is that it is presumably relatively slow, if it doesn't hit the head Cell just rips off or blasts away the affected part and regrows the lost part and with Cell even hitting the head isn't as likely to work because he can survive blasting his own head off if he notices the effect soon enough.
@SuperbMoves Жыл бұрын
either Cell is defeated easily with the spit or cell beats Dabura in a hard long fight
@shadowcell1184 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperbMoves we also know that breaking the statue doesn't kill Piccolo, so it wouldn't kill Cell either. Yes he could just destroy each part of the statue, however he is over confident to just leave them to.
@SuperbMoves Жыл бұрын
@@shadowcell1184 thats true Cell would be defeated only to come back he would probably self destruct knowing there are others stronger than him and come back stronger but knowing cell he would take out Goku or someone with a sneak attack
@shadowcell1184 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperbMoves depends on his mood swings 😂
@cruelwraith2games926 Жыл бұрын
This is a tough fight cuz this could go either way for Dabura or super perfect cell
@ZERARCHIVE2023 Жыл бұрын
Dabura's only fit is his spit. Cell is touched, he would cut himself up and regenerate instantly
@cruelwraith2games926 Жыл бұрын
@@ZERARCHIVE2023 but we don't know the Dabura full magical might is super perfect cell even impervious to Magic cuz I don't think he is and would super perfect cell even get a zenkai boost if he was killed through Magic
@Jiron127 Жыл бұрын
Dabura gets beaten with mid difficulty. He's not ss2 tier. He fought a fpssj gohan
@TheFinalChapters Жыл бұрын
@@ZERARCHIVE2023 Regeneration is far from instant. It would be useless against being turned to stone.
@dasaviorx95 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on if Majin Buu (Fat) and Kid Buu are galaxy level or beyond? Toriyama stated in a interview that Beerus was the "villain" that sealed Old Kaioshin in the Zsword instead of destroying the Kaioshin Realm, which is said to be 1/10th the size of the universe. So 93 billion light years is the diameter of the observable universe and 1/10th of that, is 9.3 billion, with those numbers the Kaioshin Realm at bare minimum can hold around 90,000 milky way galaxies. Can you verify that? Edit: forgot to add that Elder Kaioshin states that Beerus was weaker or not as bad as Majin Buu (Fat) so yeah...
@pianoandguitarlover27737 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Kid Buu would be classified as a galaxy level buster.
@Valientlink Жыл бұрын
Since they're roughly even, Dabura could probably just spit on Cell who wouldn't see it coming, get turned to stone and broken into pieces then vaporized. Unless Dabura spit and missed and happened to hit a lizard, Dabura is gonna win.
@jongriggs85 Жыл бұрын
Dabura is a spitter…what a quitter.
@-SRM- Жыл бұрын
It gives me the jitters.
@sportsfanjw559 Жыл бұрын
Might have been too bitter
@Corvolet5 Жыл бұрын
Super Perfect Cell was slightly weaker than SSJ2 Teen Gohan and Adult Gohan was equal to Dabura while not having trained for 7 years and without rage boost. Cell destroys.
@TheMissingLink2 Жыл бұрын
Another thing to mention, in dragonball Super (I hate it but here's a point). Trunks fights Dabura when he comes to earth and gets his shit kicked in. This is important because Future Trunks NEVER stopped training, and was the 3rd strongest Saiyan during the Cell saga. It took him training with the Supreme Kai (and his unlocked potential), as Gohan did, to have the strength to defeat him.
@basimali619 Жыл бұрын
His potential did not get unlocked, and unlike future dabura, present dabura was struggling with gohan.
@TheMissingLink2 Жыл бұрын
@@basimali619 Look at the super manga buddy. It did. Stated plain as day. You guys clearly aren't reading the manga and basing things off a twisted interpretation of events to support your ideas. Heck, I'm convinced most of you didn't even watch this video based on your response. It's literally laid out for you reasonably and rationally and with clear evidence.
@basimali619 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissingLink2 are you blind? To have such a large ego and confidence in something so wrong proves your not older than a 10 year old, at least mentally. Elder kai literally NEVER came out of the z sword, he literally died before he could, trunks couldn’t even go beyond ssj, any boost in power he got was from an arm workout training with the z sword. He gained some abilities like healing, but any strength gain after fighting future dabura came from black, who beat him to a pulp for an entire year. Stop pulling things out of your ass, the only thing that comes out of it is shit.
@herculesburgess6773 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissingLink2 It like people's don't even try to read the manga let alone read the guidebook heh.
@ArchangelRG09 Жыл бұрын
Cell has the edge cause of the access to a variety of techniques along with the know-how in martial art fundamentals from experts like the Saiyans and Piccolo
@ChristianWinandy-g3v Жыл бұрын
Yeah but reality is, all those techniques are sort of useless. Cell just used them when he was toying with goku, then he stopped using them.
@ArchangelRG09 Жыл бұрын
@user-wr3je8pu7e not true, remember when Gohan was toying with him, he used destructo disc, special beam cannon and of course kamaha wave?
@alfonzodozier5440 Жыл бұрын
Krillin hand started turning into stone even tho it wasn't touched initially by the spit because when the spit hit his face he tried to wipe it off with the same hand you can see where he attempted so in the panel luv the channel tho
@StarWarsStory Жыл бұрын
This is one of the few flaws with Dragonball, whenever Goku & company reach new heights, they'll meet new foot soldiers on par with the previous *Final* boss' power, which is fine for powerlevel progression but kinda lame for that previous character. I don't mind more central villains being far stronger but Dabra being on par with Cell makes Cell seem like the next Freiza or Raditz.
@KingPBJamesАй бұрын
9:44 … And now, the end is near And so I face the final curtain My friend, I'll say it clear I'll state my case, of which I'm certain I've lived a life that's full I traveled each and every highway And more, much more than this I did it my way
@brandonbrouillette308 Жыл бұрын
Cell has Instant Transmission and all the fighting skills of those he's cloned from. I still give him the edge.
@pavy415 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention neither dabura or gohan went all out in this fight. Because at the end of the fight none of them were hurt or winded it was just like a sparing match
@TheMissingLink2 Жыл бұрын
Gohan went all out. In the manga, of you read it, you'll see Gohan is breathing heavily and sweating. Dabura wasn't even trying.
@basimali619 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissingLink2dabura WAS breathing heavily, despite the majin boost given a noticeable buff to both relative durability and endurance
@madmikem16 Жыл бұрын
Im tired of the plugs for your other videos. Im subscribed. I've seen them all.
@LSMMIKE Жыл бұрын
Ok, then they're not for you so you don't have to worry about them. :)
@shanewright344 Жыл бұрын
@14:43... Well, this is Dragon Ball... so, yes? I mean, 8 or more people watched Cell do it the first time, and none of them even tried to stop him... Although, it was probably because they were so horrified and disgusted, but still; It would be like attacking someone while they're taking a shit. I mean, the same guys also just stood there and watched Frieza transform 3 separate times too, and they didn't try to stop him at any point either
@That_Son_Ofa_Itch Жыл бұрын
*Perfect cell and Dabura meeting* Dabura:Hello there I am The ki- Cell: *Holy shit that’s the dude from Legend* (Cinematic version)
@cobalt7248 Жыл бұрын
Even if I do agree that Perfect Cell could probably win against Dabura, given the right circumstance, I feel like most people ignore the fact that the latter was holding back against Gohan, while Cell slowly stopped suppressing himself throughout his fight against him in the Cell Saga. Dabura was stated to be just as strong as Cell by Vegeta and Goku, but I highly doubt that an SSJ Gohan that hadn't trained until the Tenkaichi Budokai could keep up with someone of the same caliber as Cell. I'm not sure if this is reliable, but in one of the DBZ Kakarot DLC's, we see that Dabura wasn't holding back at all against Future Trunks, and Future Trunks was already close to unlocking SSJ2, had mastered the use of the Z-Sword AND had still been training unlike Gohan when it was time for him to face Dabura. Although all of this raises the question as to how Goku, Vegeta and Supreme Kai could even sense Dabura's overall strength while he was holding back against Gohan. All of them have a mastery of their ability to sense power levels and are most likely able to sense whether a power level is lower than it's supposed to or not in the current context or fight that they're in. Then again, Dabura could also be stronger than Perfect Cell, and even Super Perfect Cell. Both are kind of hard to scale against each other.
@insupportofjunhado5 күн бұрын
I like Cell better, but probably, both being in character, and a good argument for Dabura being a little stronger, Dabura would win. Cell's a bit of a sporting guy who likes a challenges, Dabura was doing that specifically to get energy for Majin Buu, who he had been brainwashed into wanting to meet. I imagine Dabra would be less of a sporting martial artist and more quick murderer.