What If The CELL SAGA Happened DIFFERENTLY?

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@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 11 ай бұрын
Plus 3 hours of Mike content?! YES PLEASE 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
@DarthNoshitam
@DarthNoshitam 9 ай бұрын
Ya, if only it was new content...
@hey_your_boi_mike_here5025
@hey_your_boi_mike_here5025 11 ай бұрын
Ever since battle of gods I’ve always thought how insane it would be if cell knew about the super Saiyan god ritual, and used 5 of his cell juniors to complete it. That would be a killer what-if
@the_unclepappap
@the_unclepappap 11 ай бұрын
I don't think that would work, he's not pure of heart. He's killed thousands before he was even perfect
@robroy373
@robroy373 11 ай бұрын
Going by Super logic, they could say Cell can create and then absorb his Junior over and over, to which each Junior will be much stronger than the last one due to Cell getting stronger each time and making better ones. By this process he basically passes everybody (except Zeno) with ease since eventually his boosts gained by absorbing his now op Juniors will by so absurd, and he can keep repeating it as much as he wants, all without needing god ki. It's pretty scary when you think about it. He can also self destruct and get stronger that way too, and can use Kaioken to put himself near death (he should have it since Goku's cells were taken at the time he had that technique, and I guess the writers prevented him from using it so he wouldn't kill the Z Fighters).
@eduardoK995
@eduardoK995 11 ай бұрын
@@the_unclepappapSo did Vegeta to be fair
@Pack52022
@Pack52022 11 ай бұрын
​@@eduardoK995but Vegeta redeemed himself by making a sacrifice multiple times, blowing himself up, and risking him being erased permanently against kid Buu. But knowing dragon ball super that part could be retconned since Vegeta achieved it without the ritual
@MatthewJamesKalasky
@MatthewJamesKalasky 8 ай бұрын
@@the_unclepappap Exactly. Interesting idea, though.
@badactorsacademy2312
@badactorsacademy2312 11 ай бұрын
4:48 *Great idea and approach to the Cell Jr story* My only issue would be the training/crazy potential part... Training works best when sparring someone strong (which the JR couldn't do) and if he did too much of anything, one of the Z fighters would detect it. (Only reason this worked with Piccolo is because they weren't really sensing powerlevels back then
@Drayda6
@Drayda6 8 ай бұрын
Since he’s Cell Jr couldn’t he make more of him once he becomes an adult or use Tiens multiply technique..with that thought Cells potential is crazy
@badactorsacademy2312
@badactorsacademy2312 8 ай бұрын
@Drayda6 that's a great angle but it still puts him on the radar of detection
@despoinasuri652
@despoinasuri652 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact:in dragon ball super filer it is confirmed that the three cell juniors survived and went to Android 17 Island and got trained by him
@plains7000
@plains7000 10 ай бұрын
Boy this has been an interesting video to listen whilst I've been drawing and colouring Kikono, Gohan, Berryblue, Yamcha and Ox King on a4 sheets of paper thanks for the video Mike.
@BrianAwesome
@BrianAwesome 7 ай бұрын
1) Future Gohan coyld have trained with Roshi 😒 2) Bulma still had her secondary lab, ehere they lives and worked on the time machine.
@janedelhoff8201
@janedelhoff8201 11 ай бұрын
One thing the cell jr.'s Actually did survived and were taken in by 17
@CharlesLawsonSermons
@CharlesLawsonSermons 11 ай бұрын
Something to think about, Cell would have lost, even if there were no Senzu Beans, and Gohan didn't awaken his hidden power during the Cell Games First, Goku would have kept fighting during the point he retired in the original Cell would have gotten more damaged and more exhausted Piccolo would go next, Goku would have wanted Gohan to go up next, but Piccolo would step in, as he was protective over Gohan and would not know Gohan was still the strongest there, even without SS2 and his sleeping powers awoken Piccolo would fight strategically. Damaging Cell in key points, like Hit in Super. And riling Cell up, to get him to waste energy and grow weaker. He has Vegeta, Frieza, and King Cold cells inside him. If Piccolo attacked his pride and ego, Cell would waste more energy than necessary to get revenge Cell is still cunning and intelligent, he would eventually catch on to Piccolos plan, and stop it. But he would have still received enough damage and used enough energy to be significantly weaker. Piccolo would ultimately lose, of course Vegeta would wanna go next. Right off the bat, Vegeta would go 100%. To show Cell how much stronger he got since their last fight, and to give Cell no time to rest Vegeta fight would be like Goku vs Android 19, where he starts off dominating Cell for a little then slowly start doing barely any damage, before ultimately losing. Vegeta would lose his Super Sayian form, but he would keep fighting even in his base. Similar to his fight against Jiren in the Super Anime of ToP Cell would go in to kill the unconscious Vegeta, but Trunks would explode into the fight in his max power Grade 2 form, post second time training inside the Room of Spirit and Time Trunks goes right for the kill, and to end it. No games. Cell would be so tired and injured by this point, he would struggle to fight back, but he would tap into those hidden power reserves he used in the original story, against SS2 Gohan And defeat Trunks, after a decent match Android 16 would give Gohan the same speech he did in the original, before he steps in to fight Cell His unlimited energy would allow him to weaken Cell a bit in a game of Cat and Mouse, but ultimately 16 would resort to his Bomb. Which was removed, so he die, like in the original Seeing all his friends lose, and get beaten up... Plus 16's speech, and then death... Super Sayian Full Power Gohan, would step in to fight a now heavily damaged and exhausted Cell. And Gohan would be in the right mindset, highly determined, confident and motivated. With a slight rage boost going to Cell would lose You could say Cell would be frustrated and wanna just destroy the Earth But Goku would Instant Transmission any attack Cell launchs, away from Earth. Another time echo, and Gohan would kill Cell
@YungKonquera
@YungKonquera 8 ай бұрын
16 doesn’t even have infinite energy like 17 and 18. And how would goku instant transmit an attack, he’s literally only been able to instant transmit people
@CharlesLawsonSermons
@CharlesLawsonSermons 8 ай бұрын
@@YungKonquera wait, couldn't Goku have technically Instant Transmissioned Cell away when he was charging an attack? Like, when Cell used the Solar Kamehameha against SSJ2 Gohan, couldn't Goku have teleported up to Cell, put his hand in him, and then teleported to King Kais?
@kda9x
@kda9x 7 ай бұрын
​@@CharlesLawsonSermonsProbably?
@fletcherw32
@fletcherw32 3 күн бұрын
Your power scaling is completely off man. It's pretty clear that the disparity between Cell Jr's and SSJ2 Gohan is at least equivalent to Vegeta and Saibamen. So let's just say for the sake of argument Cell Jr's are 1200 pl; and SSJ2 Gohan is 18k pl. This puts Cell easily at 10k. Do you really think everyone else is close to a pl of even 4000? Most of these guys are having trouble wrapping up their saibamen equivalents. Do you think they're able to deal with these guys as easily as Nappa could a saibamen? It seems like you saw Cell Jr's kicking everyone's ass; and you extrapolate that Cell Jr's are super powerful. While this is a logical conclusion initially, SSJ2 Gohan, Vegeta, Trunks; and a low stamina Goku set a scale for us. It's not like anyone was wrapping up their Cell Jr, but Gohan doubles his power; and he sweeps them. We got to think about how egotistical Cell is. He isn't going to produce something that can rival him. Nappa's only had a power level 500 higher than Piccolo (4k and 3500 respectively); and most of the Z-Fighter's were more than a quarter of his strength. He ran through them. Even with Gohan's Masenko outlier. Without regeneration, without frieza's cells. From the beginning of Z, every fight with Son Gohan revolved around his hidden potential. The Cell arc was meant to be a finale to the entire series- it's why Goku passes the torch. It's crazy to rob Gohan of this victory. It could have only been him.
@stephano2996
@stephano2996 9 ай бұрын
About Cell not using Kaio-Ken i just figured his yellow aura implied he was using Super Saiyan in battle which meant he couldnt slap kaio-ken on top of it. Just like Goku wasnt able to do so in his Super Saiyan form.
@taki1838
@taki1838 7 ай бұрын
Cell can’t use ssj
@leefpv1420
@leefpv1420 7 ай бұрын
@@taki1838 Super perfect cell when he revives is basically super Saiyan cell
@taki1838
@taki1838 7 ай бұрын
@@leefpv1420 Not really
@leefpv1420
@leefpv1420 7 ай бұрын
@@taki1838 Yeah really, he says it himself, he revives and becomes super perfect cell, that's his version of ssj
@taki1838
@taki1838 7 ай бұрын
@@leefpv1420 But he's not a super saiyan; Cell can't use that form
@BrianAwesome
@BrianAwesome 7 ай бұрын
An augmented Namek Goku would have Infinite Kaioken, Super Saiyan, and Super Kaioken at his disposal 🔥
@mythicalxfightsmugen
@mythicalxfightsmugen 11 ай бұрын
Lookin sharp Mike! Can’t wait for all of us DB fans to catch on to your channel so you can get that silver/gold/platinum KZbin award! I also always wondered about the hierarchy of the kais? King Kai grand Kai to the supreme kai and maybe zalama?
@westonmeyer3110
@westonmeyer3110 3 ай бұрын
Buu would just turn Cell Jr into candy and eat him with Cell Jr not knowing what was happening.
@constantinethecataphract5949
@constantinethecataphract5949 Ай бұрын
And then buu would become even more OP because Cell has all the techniques and abilities of the z fighters.
@LupeJustinian
@LupeJustinian 11 ай бұрын
Hey, Mike, what made you decide to adopt this omnibus-lije approach in your recent videos? It's an interesting approach to introduce new viewers to your archive. So glad you still find ways to innovate!
@LSMMIKE
@LSMMIKE 11 ай бұрын
I’ve noticed that people often ask me to cover topics I’ve discussed in the past. This helps bring those to new eyes and also shows the evolution of my style over time.
@plains7000
@plains7000 11 ай бұрын
Mike I've seen this cell jr what if so many times and it's s still interesting to hear.
@BrianAwesome
@BrianAwesome 7 ай бұрын
Oh come on. What if 18 could use the Android Barrier ?
@Nikketmzee
@Nikketmzee 11 ай бұрын
God bless you mike. Respect, always. 🙏🏾
@AlluckyTV
@AlluckyTV 4 ай бұрын
cell jr could fuse with cell jr
@nicholasrolack1017
@nicholasrolack1017 9 ай бұрын
1:12:35 I always assumed he gained his power from their infinity engines, a la Android 13
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 11 ай бұрын
You always make My day with your content man 😊😊😊😊😊
@tyrannotherium7873
@tyrannotherium7873 11 ай бұрын
It would be very interesting if I sell Junior survive I remember watching the video back in the day and it was probably one of the most interesting videos back then and still is to this very day
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
I would had loved it more if The Cell Jrs were made when the Ring was still there, and it was the Z-Fighers fighting them one in one with the ring untill it was Goku or Gohan vs Cell
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
​​@@supagreatman2826not filler num nuts, it would have been a actually tournament and more fights
@LSMMIKE
@LSMMIKE 11 ай бұрын
Would have been a cool twist on the tournament. But I can see why Toriyama went in the direction that he did.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
​@@LSMMIKE yeah it was a easier way , but at least in the anime it would have been cool
@truckercowboyed2638
@truckercowboyed2638 8 ай бұрын
Would have*
@cambam94spriggs76
@cambam94spriggs76 11 ай бұрын
At the world Martial tournament Bulma did say Vegeta being training the last 5 years so the first 2 years he's stop, probably still grieving over Goku didn't get the chance to have a initial 1v1 battle.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
Mike could you do a bid where what if the Z-Fighers had combining Thier signature attacks to beat a villains, like how they defeated Hatchiyack
@mikeweaver8495
@mikeweaver8495 11 ай бұрын
The problem with the SSJ2 future Gohan theory is that it assumes that Gohan is a complete idiot. But Gohan is depicted as being one of the smartest characters in the series. He went into that fight assuming that he could beat 17 AND 18 together despite their infinite stamina. So that would imply that Gohan trained enough that he was well above 17’s 50% (as he thought this was 17’s max). Now, when you double the power of 17 and 18 now being at 100%, then double Gohan’s new power, you get at least a close fight, and I would argue very winnable for Gohan. It wouldn’t be a wash as suggested by this segment.
@LSMMIKE
@LSMMIKE 11 ай бұрын
Gohan's plan made no sense from the beginning. Risking everything to charge off and fight two characters he couldn't sense on the off-chance he could take one of them out with him is a poor course of action compared to controlling his emotion and training Trunks until they could defeat them together. After knocking him out, Gohan told the unconscious Trunks that he would be the only one left who could defeat them in the future, meaning Gohan knew he was going to his own death. Yet that death wasn't necessary because he could have just waited. Instead, he failed and left Trunks at an even greater disadvantage. Despite being depicted as intelligent, Gohan has a history of unintelligent decision making.
@BrianAwesome
@BrianAwesome 7 ай бұрын
What if 18 could use the Android Barrier ??
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if Goku or Gohan ssj grade 4 had gotten Energy from Super Vegeta, Ultra Trunks, Kamiccolo, Tienshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha & Each other would ssj 2 have been necessary
@rylan123100
@rylan123100 8 ай бұрын
spirit bomb would be ineffective against the z warriors. gohan deflected the spirit bomb that yamcha threw and missed in the saiyan saga and bounced it back at vegeta like a volleyball
@zous7637
@zous7637 26 күн бұрын
@@rylan123100 Yamaha?
@rylan123100
@rylan123100 26 күн бұрын
@@zous7637 Yamcha
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
Well were the Cell Jrs kids who could grow up or just midgets like the s Saibermen
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 11 ай бұрын
I really like this video these types of what it's are always fun to listen to
@skeletonlover3214
@skeletonlover3214 11 ай бұрын
What if stories have so much cool potential
@domomitsune5920
@domomitsune5920 4 ай бұрын
The one what if scenario I want to see, what if one of cell junior or multiple escaped, the destruction of gohan. What they grow into a much stronger version of cell, and potentially be a future threat or Ally of the Z fighters? Looking back at Dragon Ball super, this would be a perfect way to introduce perfect cell, without having the weaker one that died in the games. So did say they were just as strong as he was but baby forms basically. If they grow to full adult size, they could be even more powerful.
@kylebrandon4556
@kylebrandon4556 11 ай бұрын
Several of these what ifs were interesting
@cellandbuuaremyfavoritedbz1542
@cellandbuuaremyfavoritedbz1542 10 ай бұрын
I Still Wonder If Cell jr trained , he would definitely be super sayian god level , or maybe ssj blue goku level or maybe even beyond
@Ratbane
@Ratbane 9 ай бұрын
Been following you for years. Hope you’re doing well!
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 11 ай бұрын
I hope you like these what ifs and I would love to see what you do with them. Like you did with these what ifs.
@BrianAwesome
@BrianAwesome 7 ай бұрын
Some of these should have had GeekDom and Saiyan Scholar in them 😢😔
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 11 ай бұрын
I would love for you to do more like what if Kami decided to use the dragon balls to regain it youth after Piccolo Junior was defeated. Or if Master roshi regained his youth after Piccolo Junior was defeated. Or what if Napa Raditz and Vegeta turn good after meeting Goku. Goku however I still goes to King Kai to train. Or what if there was a eighth Cell Junior and he survived. And yes technically the other cell Juniors also our lives too but perhaps he doesn't know that until later and and he went out into space and the Z Fighters know about this. What if all the movies fillers and Cannon was modified do all fit together and work. That includes maybe the few of the video games what ifs scenarios and and yes that includes the original Dragon Ball Dragon Ball Z GT and Super. For game scenario Piccolo Reviving King Piccolo and fusion with him and being stronger than Super Buu but maybe not as strong as the other versions of Super Buu and Piccolo revives King Piccolo after Kid Buu is defeated and King Piccolo is revived without any of his evil maybe making him stronger doubling Piccolo's power that he would get when fused with King Piccolo from the game scenario so it's twice as strong as he was against Super Buu. And the game scenario actually comes from Dragon Ball Super Sonic Warriors that you can watch KZbin. What if the senzu beans did not go extinct in both of the future timelines. What if in both future timelines future 17 and 18 turn good before killing the Z Fighters. Forcing the supercomputer of Dr gero to reawaken 13 14 and 15. What if Bibbidi revived King cold Frieza and Cell to deal with Goku Vegeta and Gohan. Kind of like in one of the game scenarios but better. What if Vegeta spared of the people he killed at the beginning of Dragon Ball Z all the way up to end of trunks arrival. So technically Vegeta would still kill 19 and instead of killing them he would recruit them. What if Hercule Satan actually could use ki and he was one of the strongest Z Fighters. Perhaps he uses Kaio-ken and Master Roshi's full powered form together and fixed the weakness of them because of it and made it able to go up to maybe 6,000 by the time lord beerus shows up. And maybe the other humans also use it to I would probably be called Maximum Kaio-ken. What if both versions of launch Bulma and Chichi learned how to use ki. And both versions of launch would permanently separated and probably use a different name for launch in a different language to tell them apart. Bulma probably would create a power suit to enhance herself after learning ki. What if other people from the franchise became Z Fighters. You could do a ton of different videos on this uneven have scenarios where a few of the characters you already had in the videos team another word in the same video and they join the Z Fighters together. What if the nameless namekian never split himself into two but create an egg that had all of The Evil Within it and it became two namekians King Piccolo and Kami. With Kami having the same amount of evil that he had in Cannon and Piccolo having the same amount of evil in Cannon and yes just like before if one dies the other dies. And most likely the nameless namekian would be called panpipes or syrinx.
@biffitup2525
@biffitup2525 3 ай бұрын
When I was a kid watching the anime I always thought Gohan was an idiot for not waiting for Trunks to become a super saiyan and train, but when I read the manga I saw Trunks was already a super saiyan and Gohan actually wasn’t as close to 17 in power as was shown in the anime special.
@novafox6495
@novafox6495 11 ай бұрын
The way you set that up when it approahced the timeline of the Tenkaichi Budukai tournament in Buu arc, in my mind it seemed like Cell jr was gonna enter the tournament and be used to put Shin or Kubito over, but that wouldnt make sense since Cell Jr would be leauges above Super Perfect Cell thus Shin as well. But in all honestly thats a tropue youd probably come to expect from other anime in general. Similar to video games when you face the frist boss and then ut turns out it was a mini boss that is turned into a reoccuring jobber for the rest of the game.
@Purriah
@Purriah 4 ай бұрын
15:30 not necessarily. If Gohan was able to get ssj2, fight, escape again, and get a zenkai boost, he could possibly win
@nihilisticnerd832
@nihilisticnerd832 7 ай бұрын
I figured to a degree, he becomes a super saiyan when he becomes perfect. Both other forms idk. I also think since he is part android he doesnt have the body to use it because of mechanical parts?
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 11 ай бұрын
I forgot a few what if everyone that was killed during the piccolo Wars I guess they would be called the first time around was revived after the Dragon Balls use restored after the first time they were used. And yes in this scenario the Dragon Balls can revive everyone back more than a year just like how if you try to revive a single person revive that person even if they've been gone for centuries. And what if Goku revived his mother after Gohan was born and safely brought her to Earth using the wish basically saying I wish he was revived and safety brought before me.
@louisgannon8247
@louisgannon8247 11 ай бұрын
Love your content but if a cell jr survived and trained do you think it could reach SSJ? Or maybe even the higher forms seeing as he's got Saiyan cells
@cellandbuuaremyfavoritedbz1542
@cellandbuuaremyfavoritedbz1542 10 ай бұрын
like ssj god , ssj blue
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 11 ай бұрын
Now if this was the 8th Cell Junior that was created in the anime accidentally Survivor that would be a little bit different
@MoMarketing.
@MoMarketing. Ай бұрын
Mike you do realise cell jrs are still alive on 17 island
@truckercowboyed2638
@truckercowboyed2638 8 ай бұрын
What if buu fought cell jr and buu actually ate him ?? Would they merge powers and appearance??
@DeaDrick1992
@DeaDrick1992 11 ай бұрын
I think Goku and piccolo cells were collected during the world martial arts tournament he didn't know the kaioken yet
@yasinulansari7016
@yasinulansari7016 4 ай бұрын
What if Future Gohan tapped into SSJ2 with a rage boost? Against Android 17 & 18 ?
@yodakid69
@yodakid69 8 ай бұрын
I never thought of that.
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 11 ай бұрын
You also could have had what if Goku and Vegeta trained in the hyperbolic Time Chamber after Goku trained with Gohan.
@jameshollister8294
@jameshollister8294 11 ай бұрын
Why Vegeta didn't get 8 years of training and train in chamber
@derekclawson5707
@derekclawson5707 7 ай бұрын
Also no where aside of fillers, movies or DBS is applied that you can even use Kaioken with transformation and Cell is always technically a ssj so..
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 11 ай бұрын
I think I might know the nameless namekian and actual name pan flute also known as panpipes or syrinx. Because it would be one of the instruments of the Gods
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 11 ай бұрын
You forgot the Mansion what if Dr Gero survived against 17 and 18 and turn good.
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD 11 ай бұрын
Mike when's the next stream
@LSMMIKE
@LSMMIKE 11 ай бұрын
Eventually. Still working everything out with my new setup.
@bartolcherry2200
@bartolcherry2200 10 ай бұрын
then what if doktor gero watched dbz ? he would know about ssj forms and making him and hes partner stronger ? maybe then cell would be even stronger then ssj2 level ? like godly ki or at lest majin buu
@azimuddin1890
@azimuddin1890 11 ай бұрын
(2:41) Pre-teen is correct, Teen Gohan is from Boo Saga.
@derekclawson5707
@derekclawson5707 7 ай бұрын
I know the answer, just because Cell knows how to perform Kaio Ken and the spirit bomb doesn't mean he can actually do it. Both techniques can only be performed by those of purer souls and the only reason Goku was even allowed to train with King Kai.
@AnimatedReCreation
@AnimatedReCreation 11 ай бұрын
The Cell Jr.'s did survive. They live on 17's island
@jmals12
@jmals12 11 күн бұрын
Also forget they can sense cell energy if he were to train they would know immediately unless he fled the earth and went to another galaxy like where the south Kai is
@akkadian4709
@akkadian4709 11 ай бұрын
Cell's time travel was inspired mostly by the terminator. But is it possible that back to the future had some influence too?
@DesignThinkerer
@DesignThinkerer 11 ай бұрын
there is a reference to back to the future in s1, ep53 of dragon ball super (the device that Bulma builds for the time machine is inspired by Doc Brown's flux capacitor)
@blickyru
@blickyru 11 ай бұрын
Thumbnail look like Budokai 2 cell juniors lol
@parhelio___
@parhelio___ 3 ай бұрын
Yall be smoking that funny lettuce haven't yall!?
@bigchillinpodcast
@bigchillinpodcast 11 ай бұрын
gonna milk this one for bed time stories
@guardiantree8879
@guardiantree8879 10 ай бұрын
Woah, Mass Effect 3 ending DBZ cell crossover?
@TheCzemerda
@TheCzemerda 5 ай бұрын
I think If buu had to fight a cell jr that was more powerful than himself he would most likely just hit C Jr with the chocolate beam and then eat him up and possibly take on and even more powerful form himself. As far as future gohan still losing to the androids even if he achieved SSj2, it seems like you put alot of thought into your analysis but I believe gohan would end up being a good deal stronger than the androids, he may still possibly lose and die because of them ganging up on him, however main timeline gohan SSj2 was much stronger than cell and perfect cell was massively stronger than 17 & 18. I understand that just becoming a SSj2 doesn’t automatically make future gohan as powerful as teen gohan because a lot of it comes down to training and how powerful their base has become, but by that point gohan did have teen trunks to train with which would’ve made a great improvement to his base power and skills but also trunks had stated at one point that the main timeline versions of 17 & 18 where a lot more powerful than the ones from his future timeline. So I think future gohan SSj2 would’ve been stronger than the androids and possibly beaten them however the one problem in my logic is the fact that we don’t know for sure if trunks was correct when he said that the mainline androids where stronger than the ones from his timeline. The only gauge that he ever had to determine how powerful they were would’ve been based on what he saw them do and what he felt damage wise from them physically while fighting with them. Because the androids don’t emit any kind of power level or ki that can be read or detected so trunks could only ever really know their power based on what they wanted him to see. Even still tho I think future gohan SSj2 wins the battle
@smittylikesto
@smittylikesto 8 ай бұрын
maybe cell could have gone super saiyan or golden cell or black cell, like frieza.
@char_lizard8440
@char_lizard8440 7 ай бұрын
I'm going to defend this to the day I die. Dabura is not stronger super perfect cell. Goku only said he's stronger because he uses magic. And none of the saiyans can you use magic so that makes Dabura a tougher opponent.
@ryandavis1057
@ryandavis1057 15 күн бұрын
Cell can’t use spirit bomb.
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 11 ай бұрын
Actually cell from the what if Goku never got the virus would actually have been way stronger because he would be getting a lot more DNA added to his DNA.
@Thromaz
@Thromaz 11 ай бұрын
Hey Mike I don't remember, was there any depiction of cell in the aferlife in the manga or was it all anime filler? I remember that in the manga 18 was never depicted in the afterlife alongside the others in the boo saga but when everyone was wished back they made a point to unveil her. My point is that it might be implied tharlt 17 and 18 lost their souls as result of dr gero's tinkering or that they in fact passed on and their android bodies are essentially zombies or something. We do know that the adjustments dr gero made were organic in nature but I think it brings up the question does cell have a soul and would cell have transposed himself onto his clone like king piccolo did or would it be a separate entity?
@leosnyder5264
@leosnyder5264 11 ай бұрын
They don't lose these souls they were in afterlife doesn't mean they weren't or did you forget when piccolo told Vegeta you are too evil to keep your body when die get Frieza in dragon Ball super kept his body so these are not always as they seem Androids didn't lose their souls who have I told you that was garbage they were in the afterlife because they were once the only way they would have no souls as if they put their minds in another body like Doctor who did to himself
@Thromaz
@Thromaz 11 ай бұрын
English isn't your first language... I have no idea what you said
@pianoandguitarlover2773
@pianoandguitarlover2773 7 ай бұрын
Cell can not use the spirit bomb because he is evil and has an evil heart.
@smittylikesto
@smittylikesto 8 ай бұрын
i have always been under the impression you need to be pure of heart to wield spirit bomb. i used to think it couldnt hurt non evil fighters, until the tournament of power, but maybe that is why it did almost nothing in the tournament. also future trunks went back to kill both androids without the ability to go ss2, i get that not all ss2s and ssj characters are equal in power but future ss2 gohan not being able to beat 17 and 18 doesnt seem right to me.
@smittylikesto
@smittylikesto 8 ай бұрын
in the past i was under the impression super saiyan was just a higher level of kaiokan, didnt toriyama say something like that before he created super?
@Purriah
@Purriah 4 ай бұрын
No. Not at all.
@smittylikesto
@smittylikesto 4 ай бұрын
@@Purriah im pretty sure he said that about goku in the frieza saga and that is why kaiokan stopped there
@MatthewJamesKalasky
@MatthewJamesKalasky 8 ай бұрын
At least in the manga (which IS the ultimate canon source), the Cell Jrs DID survive. They where reformed by 17 and helped him protect his island from poachers, and Goten and Trunks had a little run-in with them.
@arrownoir
@arrownoir 7 ай бұрын
Which manga are you talking about?
@MatthewJamesKalasky
@MatthewJamesKalasky 7 ай бұрын
@@arrownoir Super.
@arrownoir
@arrownoir 7 ай бұрын
@@MatthewJamesKalasky That’s not the ultimate canon source. The anime came before that manga.
@smittylikesto
@smittylikesto 8 ай бұрын
people claim kaiokan takes intense mind body training to master but i dont buy that argument. all those moves require intense training, kameha meha took roshi like so many years to master. cells training and fighting knowledge was mostly from his computer and his ability to regenerate and recover more powerful with more abilities. if he has the ability to train and get stronger at the rate freiza does he is a beast with a huge potential. but i honestly dont think cell has literally everyones abilities and traits. if cell cannot use kaiokan i think the best explanation is he just wasnt programmed to have it, for whatever reason.
@magne7771
@magne7771 11 ай бұрын
oi real quick the middle cell in the thumbnail has a red arm
@CPhelps1247
@CPhelps1247 11 ай бұрын
Why’s Mike constantly saying that cell has vegeta’s jeans? Is this a shitpost? I’m not a native english speaker so im probably missing something.
@arrownoir
@arrownoir 7 ай бұрын
Second one happened and it didn’t do a thing.
@GodzillaTheKingoftheMonster
@GodzillaTheKingoftheMonster 4 ай бұрын
The cells did survive they live on the island with the 17 it’s in manga
@Pack52022
@Pack52022 11 ай бұрын
It's all fun and games until cell appears in Fortnite 💀
@Bobboerba
@Bobboerba 4 ай бұрын
Perfect cell perfect cell junior perfect cell max the ultimate trio who will kick everyone’s ass Except beerus and the angels grand priest and of course zeno
@DARS_04
@DARS_04 11 ай бұрын
Why is he Blue?!
@Spenceham-km3nv
@Spenceham-km3nv 11 ай бұрын
hey guys what if goku had high functioning autism
@magvs_mæstro216
@magvs_mæstro216 11 ай бұрын
You look like you have Vikings in your bloodline.
@LSMMIKE
@LSMMIKE 11 ай бұрын
Skol!
@MichaelAChristian1
@MichaelAChristian1 9 ай бұрын
No the cell juniors are still weak. Androids don't train usually.
@williamroberts9374
@williamroberts9374 11 ай бұрын
1 small problem cell has friezas cells so his potential and the others potential so with like a month or 2 trainin cell junior is resurrection f level
@deadlyvenom862
@deadlyvenom862 4 ай бұрын
lots of mental gymnastics going on here. a SSJ2 Vegeta still weaker than Perfect Cell? burn this video lol
@dire2293
@dire2293 4 ай бұрын
i really think you should consider redoing the title, nothing about it really reaches out and grabs my attention. the only reason i clicked here was to say that. im sure that this is a good video with a lot of effort put into it, but youre really shooting yourself in the foot by leaving it as plain and ambiguous as it is
@koomloom
@koomloom 7 ай бұрын
Grown up man talking about DBZ...I love it!
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