In 2012, I found this video. I showed it to my mom and said, "Rock is not always bad! It sounds like Mozart!" That was enough to convince my parents to buy me my first guitar.
@nikmay1696 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s more similar to Bach, but anyway your story is great!
@PsychGrad Жыл бұрын
Well then listen to Yngwie Malmsteen. Its all Bach or Mozart on a Fender Stratocaster
@романпаньшин-я5ц Жыл бұрын
@@PsychGrad Yeah, yngwie is good, he has great opuses (concerto for guitar with symponic orcestra), but... I think, his guitar tone is terrible... I don't like it. I prefer PG
@StratsRUs Жыл бұрын
You must be Victorian
@duncantones7856 Жыл бұрын
My dad did not respect my skills until I played Marty's "Symphony of Destruction" solo for him "...I didn't know you could play like that" From a marine veteran, it was the best compliment I could get
@moustache-metal2 жыл бұрын
I'm still so impressed at how fast Paul is able to play the intro then run over to the band and put on a spacesuit before the next riff
@martintesinsky2598 Жыл бұрын
no shit :) :D
@shredd5705 Жыл бұрын
He's just that fast
@paulhaynes561 Жыл бұрын
It's edited
@Scurex Жыл бұрын
@@paulhaynes561 yeah man no shit 💀
@T0mat0_S0up Жыл бұрын
@@Scurex MoustacheMetal doesn’t understand 😂
@GearZenChannel3 жыл бұрын
About once a year I come back and watch this. Still has not got old.
@JDboxbox3 жыл бұрын
I hear it in my dreams randomly. I don’t mind it at all
@NJT02623 жыл бұрын
legend
@halfindy3 жыл бұрын
Space suits are just timeless. ;)
@Acosta11943 жыл бұрын
It never gets old, the part where bass and guitar play a tapping bridge always blow my mind.
@chefnicolasgomez3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@nickborromeo936010 ай бұрын
i remember watching this back when youtube was only 4 years old fast forward to 2024 re-watching this again today never fails to cease my excitement and awesomeness at this.
@jasonlieberman46064 жыл бұрын
Let's appreciate Paul as a great joker. He made a total mockery of the golden age shred-like-me instructional videos, and still delivered awesome shred-like-me instructional videos
@goldncow4 жыл бұрын
It's alway been a huge part of his appeal.
@paulmorgan82543 жыл бұрын
ye I remember the background going around dumpster skips and stuff like this
@trentoniusmaximus17012 жыл бұрын
@@jordananderson3543 DAAAAAMN I was born in '91 and Paul's still one of my biggest inspirations. I'm only 30 but you making me feel young lolol
@christiangasior42442 жыл бұрын
Eh it’s all relative. I was born in 85.
@chelsierockers539 Жыл бұрын
I remember one where we went up and down the same escalotr set over an over
@rpminc19745 жыл бұрын
Gilberts speed is so clean and crisp he gives his shredding a unique sound like no other !!
@FlyGuy20004 жыл бұрын
I'm not a metal fan, so I always like to hear someone who can shred in a musical fashion.
@paulmorgan82543 жыл бұрын
@@FlyGuy2000 maybe because his lineage is next in line after Micheal Schenker who played very melodic solos.
@wahyuetex45943 жыл бұрын
He is not shred, he picking like arpegio in speed mode..
@wesleyzimmerman31453 жыл бұрын
I think the only player ever cleaner than this was Jason Becker
@abrahamrodrigues10493 жыл бұрын
@@wesleyzimmerman3145 His Sweeps were clean as .........
@arkano223 жыл бұрын
Love how Marco sends his right stick flying and rolling over the cymbals at 4:12, but he continues as if nothing had happened. He even smiles at the camera and throws it again on purpose :).
@UnchainedEruption Жыл бұрын
What a badass. Drops the stick, picks it up, gives it a good toss, all while never missing a beat.
@agustin371011 ай бұрын
This is a certified KZbin classic
@maxvincy91274 жыл бұрын
Oh god the bassist is so good, the drummer so cool and as usual our shredder rocks. But seriously these 3 guys nailed it, they did their job so perfectly done.
@Naksuu Жыл бұрын
Marco Minneman and Paul Gilbert are the epitome of human kindness and exceptional ability. Rarely they both meet.
@jbuell31111 ай бұрын
I love how the drummer inadvertently went Def Leppard at the end and just rolled with it, catches the stick and ends the song like it never happened. Love this video. Always come back from time to time and never gets dated.
@ErickC Жыл бұрын
Every time I get sick of people whining "ugh people who play fast have no feel," I come back to this video to witness the pure joy on Paul's face as he effortlessly expresses himself on his instrument. Then I remind myself that "no feeling" is just the boomer version of "I could play like that... if I felt like it." Winga dinga dinga.
@IVANGEBER5 жыл бұрын
Big appreciation for the bassist! Those lines on dat thick strings is even more difficult
@cooperwebb73895 жыл бұрын
1:03 Paul Gilbert.exe has stopped working
@spotsthecat79135 жыл бұрын
that's just a slight lag, i suppose :D
@RohannvanRensburg4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I thought the same thing when I first saw this
@markiyanhapyak3494 жыл бұрын
H _A,_ nice. (😜)
@s-miguel4 жыл бұрын
Pissed my pants on this one hahahhaa
@skydwellingmusic4 жыл бұрын
I thought he stopped working at 0:27 when he blew up
@andrewsouthward5045 Жыл бұрын
I like to watch once a year and leave my jaw here
@oh_my_gauze8 жыл бұрын
I believe many of us have only seen the one with 0:57 forward. I've never seen that intro before, Paul is hilarious.
@LazyVant6 жыл бұрын
This intro is in the full version of this live
@tumbi975 жыл бұрын
Yh pretty sure the original video was deleted, I remember it having at least 1 mill views
@d68st90 Жыл бұрын
@@tumbi97 Still online: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5q6fK2bp7-fa7c
@rikkubailey13418 жыл бұрын
Most excellent bass guitar, especially knocking on a Richenbacher fast like that :D
@johnbraucher14995 жыл бұрын
Needs to use fingers then he would really be a badass.
@malterecksiek27985 жыл бұрын
@@johnbraucher1499 Being a good bassist sometimes requires knowing when the sound requieres a plec.
@IdiHaps5 жыл бұрын
True. If it was musicman i wouldn't be surprise. But its Ricken Bacdass
@steveschu5 жыл бұрын
@@johnbraucher1499 It never gets old seeing someone write a post like yours. Using a pick is just fine.
@steveschu5 жыл бұрын
@@malterecksiek2798 Agreed. I use both. Sometimes in the same song. The slow ones that don't understand you can make amazing sounds from both are just bad players in general.
@turdynerdy86694 жыл бұрын
Police officer banging on the door: "have you any idea how fast you were going?"
@thehside4 жыл бұрын
"Pr- I'm pretty sure I was below ten above the speed limit"
@MB-rc8ie4 жыл бұрын
haha underrated comment
@anuragashok58593 жыл бұрын
@@MB-rc8ie Ha ha! I FULLY agree... That is quite a comment! :-)
@possibly81803 жыл бұрын
Pilotredsun moment
@craigdanj3 жыл бұрын
Lol haha
@1983nanenane Жыл бұрын
Also the bass line it’s insane❤
@danholmes53094 жыл бұрын
This vid should have been titled "Best Droped Drumstick Recovery of All Time"
@sarojkhanal98724 жыл бұрын
What is the intro. Song
@gabrielxoxo42114 жыл бұрын
That’s a comment for quick thinkers!😜
@martinpagac74223 жыл бұрын
4:10
@NIGHTFRIGHT20118 жыл бұрын
Paul and Marco are rightfully acknowledged as being absolute masters of their chosen instruments,but I'd like to encourage everyone who sees this clip to check out Linus's solo records, especially Triangle,Your Favourite Record and Let Yourself Be Happy. Linus writes catchy,melodic songs full of great playing(mostly by himself),and has a voice similar in tone to that of Glen Tilbrook of Squeeze. Deserves to be much better known.
@markiyanhapyak3494 жыл бұрын
Thanks, _then._
@anuragashok58593 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton for the recommendation. I decided to check the album Triangle. Was pleasantly stunned by how ear-friendly the songs are. (I mostly end up stopping most songs after the first few seconds...even for bands I like.) The fourth song is playing now... [I'm tempted to let the album finish and then post this reply...] {Well... the fifth song started by the time I posted...} Thanks again... [oh well... sixth song started...]
@idonthateit3 жыл бұрын
I was heavily into Paul Gilbert and all of the shred stuff when I was a teenager. But I've been listening to a lot of Nerf Herder lately, fun nerdy pop punk. I was really surprised to learn that their guitar player (Linus of Hollywood) used to play with Paul. Very cool! I need to check out his solo stuff like you said...
@jdub56443 жыл бұрын
I'm down to check it. Be back to tell y'all how it is when I'm done
@lelin702 жыл бұрын
Bad ass bassplayer🤘
@scottevans6903 Жыл бұрын
I watch this every year to remind of its greatness
@CazadorNocturno5 жыл бұрын
Paul & Marco playing together are the best thing I've seen these days!
@lucas9able10 жыл бұрын
The drums on this song are just awesome
@cacasecaproducciones5 жыл бұрын
Marco minneman is one of the best drummers on the fucking world
@sebass_92125 жыл бұрын
akai_sake That’s so true dude
@danamendes11304 жыл бұрын
@@cacasecaproducciones bruh i just realized he was the drummer for Necropphagist too.
@voronOsphere4 жыл бұрын
@@danamendes1130 Yes, ....the Necrophagist Touring Band. The recorded studio Necrophagist drums are by the amazing Hans Grossman for the most part.
@voronOsphere4 жыл бұрын
The original studio version of "Scarified" (which also has the astonishing double kicks doubling the wicked main guitar riff) is by the superhuman drummer Scott Travis!
@jacoborgan92 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I've been on this planet 21 years and haven't heard this it's beautiful
@christiangasior42442 жыл бұрын
You’re still super young.
@turolretar9 ай бұрын
Statistically speaking, you probably haven’t yet heard the funniest joke you will ever hear. And that’s something to look forward to
@playbassken2 жыл бұрын
This is musicianship at it's finest and I can never get enough of it. Love this group!
@ramirodiaz802 жыл бұрын
RIP Marco?...he's not dead!
@playbassken2 жыл бұрын
@@ramirodiaz80 I fixed it... got confused with someone else. Oops!
@nazacoustic45085 жыл бұрын
Watching Paul Gilbert shred on his guitar and never made any mistakes, it really upsets me 😋
@sethwhite41555 жыл бұрын
Haha, well that's what you get for not practicing 10 hours/day :^)
@itspaddyd3 жыл бұрын
It's ok! He makes a mistake at 3:45! Blink and you'll miss it!
@atozee71892 жыл бұрын
When PG appeared, he terrified most LA band guitarists. The thing that frightened them most was he was making instruction videos exposing the secrets of how it was all done. Nobody gave their secrets away in those days, but he made shred accessible to all.
@megatonhammer4723 Жыл бұрын
Simply luv that maple fretboard tone and this will NEVER GROW OLD
@anaran48112 жыл бұрын
Paul's absolute precision never ceases to amaze me.
@scottwalker20433 жыл бұрын
My nephew just stopped by and he is one to tell it like it is and he told me to look you up to listen to. I kinda said yeah ,sure I will . But I spaced your name out and kinda went, Yeah I always hear about the hottest players from friends so I take it with a grain of salt. About 20 min after he left I went to change my shirt and noticed a post it with your name on it . As I walked into the bathroom there was your name written in the mirror, several other post it's were found ,all with your name on it. So oooo short story long I sat down n typed your name into youtube and ,,,,,,, brother ,,let's just say I wasn't disappointed and I believe my nephew was right on the money about your guitar wizardry. I love it and I'm only 1/2 way thru one cut.. Hats Off ,Bravo and all that other groovy shit, You Smoke Brother Gilbert . ❤️🎶🎵🎸 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@danhilllyngdoh63473 жыл бұрын
Paul Gilbert is one of the most humble guitar god I've ever seen..and is playing is always phenomenal by any standards.. that goes the same to Marco and Linux as well
@NullPointer2 жыл бұрын
Linux often can't handle audio all that well, but it's doing pretty good here
@davewebster5120 Жыл бұрын
I love the spacesuit aesthetic, it's fantastic. The playing is exponentially fantastic. Artists like you need to have greater prominence in popular music.
@milk2drink872 Жыл бұрын
Bro you sound like Donald Trump.
@outerspace62363 жыл бұрын
For better or worse..this musicianship brings you to the realization that most people will never know what the word even means.
@billybirdy9507 Жыл бұрын
Paul Gilbert is the perfect blend of mega nerd and guitar god.
@RockSleeper4 жыл бұрын
I love how they act liked were granted this power just for that day and were super stoked to record it.
@welfaregod61211 ай бұрын
I'll never forget my dad showing me this when I was like 9 years old.
@Imsemble5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the high quality. Now I can see squirrel drummer better than ever at 3:35
@loudenvier8 ай бұрын
I found Linus of Hollywood body of work through this video! It was such a surprise!!! Incredible musician!!! If you play together with Paul and Marco, you ARE GOOD!
@5urg3x6 жыл бұрын
I totally never saw the drummer lose his stick at the end before. Probably because I’ve always used this as a teaching video and to practice to, and I’ve never made it passed the bridge LOL.
@StonyRC2 ай бұрын
Still fresh, still relevant, still absolutely WONDERFUL. Three great musicians making great music.
@diegocarrasco97437 жыл бұрын
Monster bass guitar player.!! Holy shit.!
@imbinod25643 жыл бұрын
No matter how much I hear, I never get bored !! Loveable , evergreen song... Watching from Nepal 🇳🇵
@rtwo75384 жыл бұрын
I like the new intro. I always say "take is away Marcco!" Some of you most beautiful picked arpeggioes I have ever heard. #PizzaSteve #Shredd #ShreddDurest #Tone #Music #MrBig The double symbol crash! He drops the stick and everything. #PaulG #Ibanez #ArtCore
@joshuamccanless26473 жыл бұрын
@Gear Zen , I find myself here every quarter, and I agree…never gets old
@brandonfisher37584 жыл бұрын
Paul Gilbert is without a doubt out of this world
@alvisezanusso3102Ай бұрын
The sheer precision and timing of this team remains unmatched..love the aggressive riff and it's smooth AF melodic moments..also spacesuits are very appropriate for some reason 🤣
@duncantones7856 Жыл бұрын
This always brings me peace
@duncantones7856 Жыл бұрын
And joy
@lg78412 ай бұрын
Anybody else come back every year just to remember how badass Paul is?
@michalstochleba62805 жыл бұрын
Very nice job by Mr. Bean on camera at 4:06 :)
@RawinMc4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@danielhenriquetostes4 жыл бұрын
Michal Stochleba ... GREAT KKKKKKKKK
@iggystardust92364 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha! Brilliant
@nelsonjamatia62954 жыл бұрын
Brilliant observation skill
@FlyGuy20004 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the SAME THING! :)
@JohnLloydDavis Жыл бұрын
My most rewatched KZbin video. Never gets old :)
@mojopin705 жыл бұрын
I love Glibert I met him as a teenager in 1991 with Mr Big gave me a pick and is also a lovely guy. Wish I had known about his Randy Rhoads history beforehand another one of my influences. He did tell me to check out Pat Travers though, I remember that much.
@damiengibson70226 ай бұрын
He's scary good,his chops and technique are next level.what i like is that it isn't just a blur of notes played as fast as hell but the fact you can hear every single note he plays.
@mckay910955 жыл бұрын
Best Drumstick recovery ever
@gypzino2 жыл бұрын
That Was ....amazing
@evra917 жыл бұрын
I always thought of Paul Gilbert as a nice guy until he jumpscared me from nowhere, now I kinda hate him just a bit
@yastaban5 жыл бұрын
Vladimir Ramírez I got scared, too.
@MrGe535 жыл бұрын
yup yeah me a cunt!
@susanosusano43055 жыл бұрын
Scarified hahahahaha
@s.hameleers35085 жыл бұрын
I was just reading this with my headphones on max.. yea indeed.. glad i didnt see it XD
@jacktheriffer15235 жыл бұрын
Every knowledgeable guitarist on the planet hate Mr Gilbert's story....When Mr Shawn Lane passed,Paul bevame the most untouchable guitarist on the planet...Name anyone that can be the all encompassing ambassador for rock gtr...Nobody can touch Paul as a Complete Six Stringer
@douchedisserrecords3982 жыл бұрын
Almost 2 million views and for good reason. These are all masters of their craft.
@jamesdean80225 жыл бұрын
Not only is this badass but the energy and amount of fun they are having is fucking inspiring
@josephkunath41732 жыл бұрын
Haven't heard this in years thank you.
@jameslighterGTR3 жыл бұрын
1:55 bass lick kills it every time
@Adamortega_3 жыл бұрын
It fits perfectly
@jameslighterGTR3 жыл бұрын
@@Adamortega_ Yeah man its so crushing and jarring!
@markusluftner84182 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@TheSlenderBassist2 жыл бұрын
that and Juan’s original bass transcription are just awesome🤘🏻🔥
@juankplaysmusic2 жыл бұрын
That Rick neck is very narrow! Looks like Ibanez wizard necks lol very confortable I bet...
@jas_bataille Жыл бұрын
Not only is this technically crazy, but most importantly, the music is just insane. This sounds like a Primus instrumental on steroids!!!
@LeCheeZy5 жыл бұрын
3:42 activates star power before solo
@sebass_92125 жыл бұрын
Lol xD
@s3rj815 жыл бұрын
The whole song is a fucking solo !!! XD
@hongodongo90534 жыл бұрын
They should make a sadistic version of the gh controller that requires you to use your pinky like that
@markiyanhapyak3494 жыл бұрын
YES. 😎 _😎_
@gniewomircioek68454 жыл бұрын
@@s3rj81 Is it guitar, bass or drums solo?
@cazpfitl Жыл бұрын
so, it was you. nice and thank you.
@lordpickle84245 жыл бұрын
3:02-ish, I always loved those bends there. Sounds so badass.
@guillaumeroussel48454 жыл бұрын
Yep man, so smooth
@ZkHeat3 жыл бұрын
I remember this from so long ago my childhood buddy could play this whole song at like age 11-12 and paul gilbert even gave him one of his guitars. miss those days haha
@bLauer19879 жыл бұрын
Most awsome song on earth yet!!! I swear.. ;-)
@fredyrocazaurus8420 Жыл бұрын
Out from a million notes he played, i heard only ONE slip.. Such clean playing !! PG, you the OG
@vish31614 жыл бұрын
The cleanest alternate picking I have ever heard.. unreal!
@thomasgrabowski22024 жыл бұрын
They play so well because they are all fucking in. Love the passion these guys have for music. You can seem them being POSSESSED by their fucking playing!!!!!! Fucking brilliant!!
@willgilchuk1050 Жыл бұрын
That little scratch he does across the strings at 3:31 makes the entire riff in my opinion.
@METALFAN4EVS5 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine sending these three back to the days of Classical dominance. The Greats would be completely dumbfounded, floored, and loving it.
@bwgti5 жыл бұрын
I have never heard this. And I grew up in the middle of the late 80's shred shred all the time era. Pretty cool. Or fun to listen to an see performed.
@haifischbecken22014 жыл бұрын
Laid back and foreward power at the same time. That's masterful timekeeping. Marco Minnemann is the right guy for this job.
@starvinmarvin723 жыл бұрын
Every time I come back to this video, the best part is still during the big ending where Marco drops his stick, catches it after it rolls across all the toms, and then proceeds to use it to his advantage with a stick throw... Ridiculous lol
@emiliosanchez1784 Жыл бұрын
WHAT-A-FUCKING-AMAZING-PERFORMANCE, Linus absolutely nails it!!!
@strangequark4203 жыл бұрын
"And I got it ALL!" Perfect.
@juankplaysmusic2 жыл бұрын
Im amazed at the fact that Paul is a total nerd and down to earth, plus extremely eloquent teacher, yet he was playing shirtless at Budokan with Mr. Big in his youth, 100%rockstar...
@vorali4 жыл бұрын
We need space ship live 2020 over corona virus crisis.
@walkandcamp3 жыл бұрын
A lesson there in how to handle dropping a stick. Truly remarkable guitar from Paul, as always.
@blunderbuss3935 жыл бұрын
I mean, I'm always impressed with Paul and his guitar playing. But that bassist. Jesus Christ.
@toomuchfandango Жыл бұрын
I am wide eyed and smiling, thats incredible.
@ltonos95573 жыл бұрын
What would take longer, learning this song or getting a Masters degree in Chemical Engineering? The guitar tab is probably bigger than a chemistry book.
@kdawg34843 жыл бұрын
As a chemical engineer that's interviewed and worked with dozens of ChemEs with Master's degrees over the years, I can confidentially say that this would take much longer to learn than a M.S. ChE and would be more much useful than a M.S. ChE.
@parthnigam9163 жыл бұрын
You sir are simply amazing
@joeylo35433 жыл бұрын
I watch this video daily now...👍🎸🤘
@QueteVoteXapote20235 жыл бұрын
Doy gracias a Dios cada dia por haberme permitido disfrutar de esta música y no haberme conducido por los caminos de la música comercial actual.
@prakashdevanna_69692 жыл бұрын
This song never gets old. Marko and Paul. You'll always be legends
@d68st90 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the badass bassist!
@nogoogleplus4 жыл бұрын
Still, after all these years, such a cool composition and bad ass riff! Rock on Paul
@mesh50005 ай бұрын
for anyone wondering, the bassist is linus of hollywood. he fronts size14 (yes, superbabe2000) and is a member of nerf herder (van halen).
@thetugisthedrugfishing34344 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing them many times back in the late 80's at the country club in reseda with the original band, they kicked so much ass! Couldn't hear for a week after. ha
@markiyanhapyak3494 жыл бұрын
_REALLY‽ 😳_
@thetugisthedrugfishing34344 жыл бұрын
@@markiyanhapyak349 yeah don't be jealous!
@jefriduerto81994 жыл бұрын
Madnesssssss guitaaarrrr aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@SpaceTiger94 жыл бұрын
2:57 - 3:32 God the tone... Paul is a beast.
@deathatback23 күн бұрын
It's been 15 years, I'm still waiting for this version to be on iTunes
@Incog2k65 жыл бұрын
Oh, look! It's Paul Gilbert on guitar and drums. No, wait. It's Marco Minnemann on guitar and drums. Wait a second...
@klayvonisme4 жыл бұрын
Had to come back to watch and listen again!
@sweeparpage63462 жыл бұрын
So this is what NASA employees do during their breaks.
@Hunter-Hisoka6 ай бұрын
Ahahahahahahahahah 😂😂😂
@samwill2265 ай бұрын
He has always been so freaking clean in his notes.
@majingazetto41462 жыл бұрын
Best Version of this song. Period.
@tarokeefe77224 жыл бұрын
Nice guitar sound. I like a nice clear sound. He kept connected to the band , lovely song
@junkcarsinc94677 жыл бұрын
there is nothing else to say drummer is my #1 !
@mokshmeditation2 жыл бұрын
The most underrated guitarist ever!
@mh53eflyguy4 жыл бұрын
Sincerely do not understand why Paul Gilbert is not more revered for his talent.
@christiangasior42442 жыл бұрын
He is super revered amongst guitar players who emphasize speed, aka most guitar players these days. It’s just that people tend to focus on different stuff as the years go on, as everyone in 00’s was talking about John Petrucci of Dream Theater, in the 80’s and 90’s Gilbert was talked about a loooot. I think his lack of actual good songs is what held him back. People were talking about Dimebag and Zakk Wylde more often. Randy Rhoads was still huge, deservedly so. People were already making fun of Metallica and Kirk Hammett though in the latter 90’s. It was understandable as long as they didn’t also trash their 80’s output which was amazing.
@UnchainedEruption Жыл бұрын
@@christiangasior4244 Lack of good songs, are you nuts? So many amazing songs from Racer X, Mr. Big and solo career. You forget a lot of what makes any career happen is luck and connections. Everybody who made it in the scene knew somebody--Gene Simmons discovered Van Halen; Jake E Lee was in Ratt before Ozzy; George Lynch was recommended to Don Dokken; etc. Paul Gilbert I think has been huge amongst guitar players from his days in MIT and of course the legendary VHS tapes. His shred metal band Racer X was relatively more underground but pretty big in 80s LA scene, but he became more mainstream and an international success with Mr. Big, which had more of a melodic hard rock sound, but they only had a handful of hits. They were mostly big in Japan in the early 90s.