LIVE! Boone Trial Day 4 - Battered Spouse Experts Testify

[@chelseac8855]

Does anyone else notice the big smile the judge gives the jury every time they come in? So wholesome, so cute 🥰

[@harrisonmode8046]

No - I used to like this judge but now I think he’s being way too accommodating to the defence and their shenanigans

[@stephk.1996]

I love Judge Kraynick. Owens is delaying things with experts coming in late, a lot of side bars, general antics, interrupting Dr. Harper and guiding the narrative with Boone and Dr. Harper. Judge is doing well in not giving a reason to appeal but also shutting down the antics.

[@humanthetooth]

Yes!! Like they are his pride and joy. His eyes say "I love all you beautiful, normal people, who aren't here to drive me crazy."

[@ritamoore4384]

And all the "bless you's " when someone sneezes .. he's an amazing judge all around

[@Fraukie_H]

@@harrisonmode8046 I worry he doesn't have a choice. I am pretty sure he is not exactly a Sarah Boone fan. BUT if he was to show that in ANY way.. he would put the whole trial at risk. He might even give her way more than he would for someone he does like just to make sure that he gives her NO reason to appeal.. Sarah's whole "defense team" will pick up at anything that can get them a reason to appeal like bloodhounds and I guess NO ONE wants a retrial because of an appeal or a mistrial less than Kraynick.. And when she made up this lie about him saying he would end her ...what should Kraynick do? It is NOT my habit accusing people of lying but not being able to even remember she took those videos but remembering EXACTLY down to the last detail why the time BETWEEN those videos made her fear for her life is not believable to me. But I am a private person and free to think whatever I do.. Kraynick has to follow the law. To me he did NOT look happy but saying "Nope I deny the battered spouse defense because I don't believe you." I would guess that that would be pretty thin ice. We don't have a jury in my country but if I understood the US-System right, Kraynick can only check IF the reason Sarah tells for her defense is "enough". If it is believable.. I guess THAT is for the jury to decide. I mean... I don't like it but if I look to the Delphi trial and see the exact opposite: A judge that tells someone accused of an unspeakable crime that he and his defense can't even speak of certain defense "tactics".. If I was on the jury in such a trial and AFTER the trial I would be informed that there where other possible suspects and motives but the defense was not allowed to even speak about those.. I would be furious and would feel extremely used.. They call in the jury to decide what THEIR judgement tells them about how close the prosecution came to proof what they say happened... As a juror I would expect a judge to let me decide if I think a story is believable or not. If anything the defense WANTS to tell me MIGHT raise reasonable doubt. So yeah.. I am VERY worried that Sarah might walk.. especially since the jury doesn't know all her shenanigans and history... But a Judge deciding what the defense is allowed to tell the jury would not be a fair trial to me. Not fair for the defendant but also not fair to the jury who was told the THEIR judgement is what is asked for.

[@lindalewis1837]

Seems to me that Sarah had the control. She had the house, the car and the phone. She told him when he should call his kids, when they should sit on the porch, when it was time to move inside to do puzzles and when they should do art projects.

[@katet3327]

Exactly, what did he have over her.. nothing. She paid for everything (via Brian), she had a car and she had a home.. how did he control her?

[@SonjaMercedes]

You are completely right

[@nordwithnovelty]

Like the state said yesterday, she treated him like a child, and talked about him like a child.. he had no power in that house, everything and everyone around her had to be on her schedule.

[@kjbroo838]

She was his favorite kindergarten teacher!

[@zoecove9836]

She told t police they started a puzzle. Then upgraded (grandiose = NPD) to that they finished a 1000 piece puzzle and it was missing a piece. Those take on average 9hrs to complete so…yeah, no. She lies about the unimportant details so she’s lying about the important details.

[@Andrewbun715]

My favorite part was when the state made them define “NARCISSIST” to the jury 😁

[@kristis4147]

If they only knew what we know with those letters.

[@zoecove9836]

And coercive control.

[@ivanvillamil2764]

They asked about grandiosity personality too.

[@brendakauffman2222]

@@ivanvillamil2764 Unfortunately, Boone isn't showing the jury the person we've seen all these years.

[@QueenofMarine]

I keep wondering what the jury is going to think when this is all over and they're able to do a little research and learn what a truly atrocious, and definitely narcissistic, person Sarah Boone really is. She absolutely checks more than 3 of those diagnosic boxes.

[@lynnecalli]

I think Brian Boone could bust this wide open and explain everything

[@chantallennox1201]

What a truly terrible position to be in for a father - they share a 14 year old child who may or may not support his dad telling the truth.

[@alwayswondering127]

@@chantallennox1201if he is recalled by the state though he cannot lie, they can use his own recorded words against him, he admitted she used to attack him and how he didn’t believe the majority of her accusations against gorge. We also don’t know how the 14 year old feels about his mother, he may hate her.

[@judykincaid4066]

We saw the videos. We KNOW WHAT HAPPENED that day. That's all we need to know.

[@donnaleroy1717]

@@judykincaid4066oh it is not to decided the final charge

[@tamararutland-mills9530]

Great comment ❤ My thoughts exactly ~ especially if he says how she used to come at him, attacking him with her claws.

[@ldnilson78]

I don't believe that a true DV victim would go out of their way to 'poke the bear' while she had Jorge as a 'trapped' listener.

[@cbry2555]

Bees in the trap

[@apriljoy1094]

I don’t think she could help it just like she couldn’t help sabotaging her relationship with her lawyers. Some people are stuck in a pattern of behaviour even if it turns out badly for them nearly every time. Just as she can’t help complaining.

[@OkieStinner]

you mean captive audience. Literally.

[@lisabeckbakeman5413]

I agree. I was married too two abusive men. I did everything I could to keep things calm and not antagonize them. I walked on eggshells all of the time.

[@Thebeautiful11]

Who fears a man but goes to bed while he's downstairs in a suitcase?

[@katet3327]

Exactly. Like I would be running out the front door.. but no I’ll just take a nappy.. 😂

[@beckyd712]

*Yeah, IF you are really afraid and/or truly have been abused, it is when the "abuser" is zipped in that suitcase that you LEAVE, not go upstairs and "go to bed". smh.*

[@Dillan3]

Exactly, one part she said left it open enough that he could get out on his own.

[@kimberleeradovani118]

You don’t if you left an opening bc I promise if I had zipped up and taunted my abuser I would not have unzipped any in the fear of him getting out and barricaded the door or left if I had. The baseball bats where a thought but I knew if I fucked that up I was dead! My mission was always stay alive.

[@Dillan3]

@@beckyd712 Exactly. She called 911 for DV on him 5 times. One time she went to jail, one time they both went to jail, 2 times he did, one time no one went.

[@michelewagner4672]

If you watch the videos from today, they were heartbreaking 💔. She wasn't afraid of Jorge she was a bully. So sad. Justice 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@foxykris]

The prosecution could end all of this with putting Brian on the stand and have him repeat how she would fight him when drunk. They’re so weak with their arguments!!!

[@SonjaMercedes]

Exactly!!!! I totally agree and hope they actually have a plan for a hard hitting rebuttal!!

[@ryanhampson673]

@@SonjaMercedes I agree. I think they are waiting to perform the “coup de grace” bringing him up for rebuttal.

[@jankasza5538]

I expected so much more from the prosecution! They have had Years to prepare!

[@Fraukie_H]

I think Brian is not ready... If asked he will tell the truth: that she attacked him.. but he is not ready to admit that he was abused by her too and that she kept controlling him after they split up. Would be great to bring Brian in and Jorge's Ex wife to show that Sarah hat a history of DV.. but Jorge did not. I am also "mad" that the prosecution just let her claim that Jorge's brother beat him up for abusing Sarah. Jorge's family doesn't even LIKE her why didn't they object? Unless this brother is at the witness stand and says: "Yes that is true, that is the reason I knocked Jorge into the hospital." it is hearsay at best. If Sarah walks and abuses her next victim the laziness of the prosecution will be partly to blame.

[@H37P5kY57]

Prosecutors really are terrible. It's as if they think all they needed to do was show a video. I'm sadden for the Torres family, having to listen to all her lies and bashing someone who literally isn't hear to defend himself.

[@jannwebb]

Narcissistic Personality Disorder: one inmate that expects to have her hair and makeup done each day for trial! Not only that, but also expects special snacks!

[@Tammy_26Irwin]

So let me get this straight, anybody that wants to look, presentable and take care of themselves is a narcissist? I didn’t realize there were so many psychologist and psychiatrist in these KZbin chats.

[@chelseac8855]

@@Tammy_26IrwinShe didn’t ask for a hairbrush or makeup to apply herself. I agree with you, it’s normal to want to look presentable. But when you demand professional hair and make up be done daily? That’s just too much

[@Tammy_26Irwin]

@@chelseac8855 whoppers of all she can’t ask for those things so she can apply them herself because that is considered contraband in jail. I think that’s why she asked to have an outside person do her hair and apply a little bit of make up.

[@chelseac8855]

@@Tammy_26Irwin I agree with you there, the jail wouldn’t allow it. But based on reports of her being difficult in the jail, the demands for all sorts of snacks, and that she still didn’t ask for these items to be provided for her to use at the courthouse and returned prior to going back to jail….I think it confirms for us viewers the narcissistic qualities. Of course, the jury doesn’t know any of this so I don’t think it would negatively effect their judgement

[@LaurenLakes]

Narcissistic personality disorder results from an extremely low self esteem, a damaged ego. It reveals itself opposite of the core beliefs - that’s what most either don’t understand or forget.

[@catherinebaum9185]

Harper did not interview Sarahs x husband, who would have been the first person I would have talked to. He was the victim of Sarahs violence and manipulation.

[@PreiliMuri]

Right, that should be the baseline of her in a relationship and her in a relationship that is going bad, as they are divorced. And then she said, I don't think she is exploitative. Sorry, what? You only asked the person that you yourself told, doesn't even understand when she inconveniences others. Absurdity. So on one answer she changed her opinion on between report and trial and another is contradicting answers to other question..so I think we can gather getting to the 5 on NPD was reached. But sure it is good she interviewed her... apartement block manager.

[@katjorbar]

Too risky, maybe?! He seemed to perhaps be under her control still, as evidenced by his acquiescence to her calling and asking what to do on next morning, etc.

[@debidriscoll8108]

Can't have a complete exam and diagnosis without talking to others in her life and the behaviors they saw and experienced

[@joannegregory3024]

This lady lied on the stand…… she answered no to a question, he called her out that she answered yes in her deposition regarding narcissistic traits, she also never mentioned any threats, she said Jorge said something that made Sarah angry, not made Sarah scared that was a major thing for me it seems like Sarah added that to be able to use battered spouse

[@LaLaLonna]

Sarah is lying lying lying. I still can't believe the judge considered a man trying to save his own life (but trying to get out of the suitcase) an overt act. We got the truth the day she talked to the cops. She was mad at Jorge when she got drunk because she's a violent, mean drunk and she tortured him and then went and passed out. She's had almost 5 years to study up and her new lawyers to que her on what to say. She's a liar.

[@christinametal1071]

😮

[@Fraukie_H]

I am SO glad that I am a very unemotional person.. When this "Psychologist" REALLY said that Sarah had a habit of putting Jorge's needs above her own.. If I was capable of such an emotion I would have lost it. Sarah Boone? putting ANYONE else's needs above her own???? Was this "expert witness" in the right courtroom? Did she talk about THAT Sarah Boone? I am pretty sure Sarah wouldn't spell a perfectly good drink if her kid was on fire...

[@brendakauffman2222]

@@Fraukie_H Yes this "expert witness" crossed the line and became an advocate of Sarah Boone's on the stand instead of a simple expert witness. Seems she bent her story to fit what the defense wanted.

[@Fraukie_H]

@@brendakauffman2222 And she proved that someone can have a degree and tons of experience and still be just BAD at their job. I confess I am not a fan of psychology in general. But i have friends who are psychologists.. GOOD ones. Not ONE of them would ever claim that psychology is an exact science with objective diagnosis... That is just not how psychology works. And psychologists like that lady in the stand.. It would be nice to remind the jury that it were "experts" like her who wrote nice psychological reports that ended up getting Jack Unterweger out of prison early.. The only serial killer Germany, Austria AND the USA got to "enjoy".. He murdered one (more likely two) before he was sentenced to life in prison.. and we might never know HOW many lives he claimed after he got out on the basis of optimistic psychological reports that obviously weren't that "objective". And sadly there WERE forensic psychologists who warned the courts and one of them even told them that letting Unterweger out would mean to "try" if one can write the story of the greatest rehabilitation or the greatest serial killer.. And here in Germany as well as in Austria we DO have a prison system that does believe in rehab more than in "lock up and throw away they key". Unterweger would have been one of the very few who meet the criteria to possible never walk free ever again.. instead he was let out and took a lot of lives.

[@SouthernMimi2]

Can I just say I love this judge. He is very pleasant but no nonsense and he is prepared with case examples etc. He also is very good at making sure there is no reason for appeal. I preferred the first dr bc he seemed much more concerned about getting the whole picture such as other ppl version of the events or actions of Sarah. Whereas the second dr just seemed to take Sarah for her word and seemed kind of biased against the prosecutor.

[@KLHatch]

Judge K is a closer.

[@skygodess87]

He is awesome! Judge Gull could take a page or 2 from his book!

[@julieloucalcote1368]

@@skygodess87That woman is a DISGRACE to the judicial system! I am so ashamed for her to represent the judicial system here in the U. S.

[@cmcdonaldmacri]

I absolutely believe she was the aggressor in their relationship... she treated him like a child controlling everything

[@LaLaLonna]

I agree. Shes an awful person and if she gets off and is free to go she is going to really hurt or k*ll someone else in the future if she keeps drinking (which she prob will once she's out in the world). She's a nightmare person

[@donnaleroy1717]

She rested hi. Like a child to keep his anger down. She probably does have ptsd and a personality disorder

[@tamararutland-mills9530]

Or a trained seal 🦭 at the least.

[@jenk.6196]

Waiting for Jorge to claim battered spouse … oh wait, he can’t. Because he’s dead … thanks to the “depraved heart” of his girlfriend. They abused each other…that much is clear. But one thing I can never see and that’s Jorge zipping up Sarah in a suitcase and then sitting there mocking and taunting her while she’s calling his name-desperately telling him she can’t breathe. Because that’s pure sadism…not fear.

[@bettyaduke4007]

I think the TV was already out snd the beat it at Sarah’s request for the camera.😊😊

[@seriously6649]

Truly! She would not stand by and calmly film someone taking something from her narcissist self.

[@msflaringnostril]

Agree - 💯 this was my impression

[@blinkbunny9781]

That's exactly what I took from it

[@alwayswondering127]

Did you see how utterly exhausted he was after a few hits? He looked so malnourished

[@ciararyan9370]

When he was asking if she was going to help him “take this sh-t out” he might have meant the mess created. Like, maybe she told him he should hit it with the bat or they both agreed it would be fun to do it, and he was asking if she’d help him clean up the pieces afterward.

[@Artemis2317]

Re: rebuttal - Sarah said her first date with Jorge was wonderful, but her therapist told us that Sarah told her she was abused on the first date with Jorge. Would that warrant a rebuttal call back?

[@basicallyno1722]

The psychologist leaves out a lot of pertinent information when it comes to Sarah Boone. In my opinion, I think she intentionally did not inquire into Sarah Boone’s life very deeply

[@missygoldstein12]

Yes that bugged the hell out of me. Sarah claiming she was in fear while George was locked in the suitcase and yet not Sarah nor the therapist give any examples of what he said. With Sarah I assume this was because she feared it would sound false and unbelievable. With the therapist she claims it's outside of standard protocol and doesn't want to "interrogate a victim". Oh brother!!! Seriously? Asking Sarah what he said that was so scary is badgering her??? That would be a question even a child would ask.

[@valentinat3250]

Agreed

[@Juhani139]

I grew up in an abusive household. Early on my mom fought back, later she made herself small and avoided him. (As did I). Now I'm pretty sure I can spot an abused woman. They tend to talk more softly. They make themselves smaller and they avoid conflict, ESPECIALLY with the abuser. There is a fragility (and quiet strength) to them. This was a MUTUALLY abusive relationship. She was an abuser before she met Jorge (see Brian's police interview). One of them was going to die eventually if they stayed in that powder keg. it just so happened to be Jorge.

[@jcfanonly]

I’m sorry you had to go through that! This must be challenging for abused people!

[@GPDogDrool]

I completely agree. I'm not excusing Sara but I think it went both ways and especially add alcohol. Vicious cycle. I lived it and you are spot on with someone was going to die. Luckily I got out of mine but I accept I was part of it. Sober now. 🙏

[@NonaMlou]

@@GPDogDroolrecovery is life, best wishes for your continued sobriety

[@GPDogDrool]

@@NonaMlou Thank you dear! ❤ Just celebrated 18 years....life is good. 😊

[@NonaMlou]

@@GPDogDrool 41 yrs 9 months 23 days clean, 1 yr, 3 months, 26 days sober!

[@CityBohoGirl]

Ps Jorge isn’t here to defend any of this. Just bc she says that was their first date abbbsoluuuutwly does not mean that happened. Just sayin.

[@justMelissa72]

She had her first date with Jorge while she was married and living with Brian. So, it's a complete and total lie. She was cheating on Brian with Jorge. Brian as much as said it in his interview

[@kimberleeradovani118]

That definitely wasn’t first hanging out/kicking it for sure if true. I will stop talking to people again even now the moment I see a trait.

[@justMelissa72]

@@kimberleeradovani118 💯

[@prechagirl]

If those things happened on the first date why go back for a second?

[@karibarrett2186]

She made a comment yesterday to the effect that she just wanted the Jorge back from when they first met because he was so kind and sweet...

[@natandwazpacker6592]

It’s like boating out to the deep ocean and dropping someone off the edge of the boat who isn’t a strong swimmer and boating away, knowing there is very little chance they’ll survive. She walked away knowing he couldn’t breathe; nor get out. Depraved Mind!!

[@brendakauffman2222]

Becasue as she said in one of the video's, "She wanted him to squirm a little."

[@MelodieKate]

Jorge didn’t look mad at the TV or Sarah. I think he was telling her he would help her get rid of the shitty TV.

[@daphnelane2646]

I thought that too.

[@SandyGarrett-h1d]

I would never take a baseball bat to a flat screen TV in my living room. Do that at the dump! someone has to clean up all that glass from the living room floor.

[@grudgejudy9736]

@@SandyGarrett-h1dI wouldn’t either! I’ve seen KZbin/tik toks of people doing it in their house, so it’s not unheard of. Regardless, the video was framed as Jorge being abusive, but it doesn’t show that at all.

[@sallycinnamon5370]

Regardless of the precise reason. It’s extremely obvious that he is doing this FOR the camera not in spite of the camera. Implies consent from the camera operator. She isn’t yelling for him to stop, crying in fear, he isn’t yelling or making crazy eyes at her. She 100% lied about the idea of him breaking her TV as an abusive act. Makes me think she would absolutely use every picture of every injury she ever had to paint him bad now. I have pictures of impressive bruises that I have gotten from non-abuse. I had a picture of a black eye I got from falling into a countertop face first while rushing the toilet while drunk in my 20’s.

[@SandyOhNo]

​@sallycinnamon5370 my son recently got a black eye from shooting his new rifle!

[@kristis4147]

Dr Brannon mentioned “he could be missing teeth as a sign of abuse “. How many times did Sara mention Jorge loosing his teeth and try to explain it away ?

[@wild_gypsy_rose]

Jorge looks malnourished

[@CherylVrabel-d4v]

I have to say I love this judge. He is patient, but he is the person in control of the courtroom. He listens without interrupting and then challenges the lawyers when their argument has no legal basis and he knows the law. He is impressive.

[@anitagendler3812]

I totally agree! He’s an amazing Judge!

[@anthonyesparsen7776]

The only thing I get from Jorge busting up the tv is that maybe it doesn’t work anymore and that’s why he broke it more

[@misswashington99]

The way Sarah described it, I was expecting a "belligerent" out of control drunk recklessly smashing up the TV. Instead, it was a rather calm, orderly demolition with Sarah quietly filming & watching. I don't think the video proved anything.

[@barrettlori9249]

IMO Jorge was confirming with Sarah. Then she stood silent and videoed the bust up?!

[@AC949]

@@barrettlori9249Set up. Did you hear him say… you are going to have to clean this up! Because it was her idea!

[@tamararutland-mills9530]

Exactly. Too staged, probably already broken & she conned him into smashing it somehow.

[@Jewels4wcd]

A video from officer body cam at the crime scene shows SB’s ex-husband talking to the officer he tells her SB gets violent when she drinks, she used to hit and scratch him, her drinking is why he left her. He was asked and answered that he had seen SB with a black eye, he stated for all he knew she could have started the altercation. IMO, if you hit someone you better expect to be hit back, I don’t care if your male or female…

[@LaLaLonna]

I am still blown away the prosecution didn't have Brian testify to that. I can only assume it's in their cross of Brian. If not the prosecution is really doing awful.

[@chrisshergie1030]

@@LaLaLonnajust make sure to always keep that same energy. If you’re consistent on that I commend you

[@MomtoAutism]

I thought Brian divorced her because she is bipolar

[@kelliebellerina]

​@LaLaLonna i dont think they could mention it until the defense got the judge's ruling about using the battered spouse defense. They'd have to do it on rebuttal. But, if there is a body cam with him stating Sarah is violent... why bring him back on the stand? He already said it. On the stand he could possibly feel sympathetic to the mother of his child and downplay it, "Oh well, I didn't really mean it. I've since heard all this other stuff since then that makes me think it was all Jorge." Why risk it when he already made those statements?

[@daysofapril2667]

@@LaLaLonnathey couldn’t open that door. Sarah had to talk about abuse first. Now they can use her ex hubby’s testimony as rebuttal.

[@CuriousTammy]

It's a frustrating trial to watch. The jury doesn't get to see a lot of Sarah's post-arrest behavior. Defense painting her as naive, scared, insecure with low self esteem. Meanwhile, we know she was writing letters to the judge explaining the Constitution to him, accusing the other judge of profiting from the case, threatening corrections officers with lawsuits, etc. I hope the jury sees through her bs.

[@cbry2555]

It's better to explain the Constitution Slooooooow so they can understand

[@kelliebellerina]

Don't worry. They got her on tape. She's an outstanding mother and excels at everything she does.

[@SlimPickens-kv3ws]

100 lb woman flipped 100lb. Suitcase/man. Why is no one hammering her on the nonchalant way she describes this process? She performed this difficult maneuver to keep him inside, knowing he couldn’t get out when flipped. Why did you flip it Boone?

[@kelliebellerina]

I'm hoping they maybe don't need to. The jurors aren't stupid, that's why they were selected. Both their weights are in evidence. IDK how you hear about a man and a suitcase and it being flipped over and think...whuu???? I can barely put my suitcase on the scale at the airport. Admittedly, my suitcase is always 45-49.9 lbs.

[@susancolman7911]

Or push it down the stairs

[@alwayswondering127]

She wasn’t even 100lbs I don’t know what they don’t call her out on her trying to make herself seem smaller than she was.

[@alecsmith8341]

Her arrest form was 140lbs. She was not malnourished

[@NerdDogMom]

He was literally suffocating to death in front of her and us in the video and she walked past and went to bed. No reasonable person would have left him in the 20 seconds when he was saying he couldn’t breathe let me out. He was BEGGING prior to any “hand coming out”. Edit: oh wait on her way past she beat him with a baseball bat! Made sure he had room to get himself out and flipped him over and THEN went to bed…

[@NerdDogMom]

Am I crazy??? He was crying wolf suffocating to death?? Sorry that’s not a reasonable assumption. She wanted to make him feel how she felt…scared and in fear at times! That’s REVENGE.

[@sabrinanicole758]

Thank you, exactly my viewpoint. She was angry and revengeful.

[@NerdDogMom]

@@sabrinanicole758don’t forget the paper clip was there! See he could get himself out as she’s demonstrating the night. It makes zero sense.

[@chrisshergie1030]

Manslaughter.

[@Dillan3]

@@NerdDogMom And rolled him down the stairs…

[@DrJ4712]

I agree, the black eye looks fake. It is so, so black with no swelling. Regarding the "knife wound" on her leg, the purple lesion on her foot is NOT related to the cut above. That's a rolled ankle. She was drunk, twisted her ankle, fell, and cut her shin on something sharp. She is a bold faced liar! Guilty! Just had to get that off my chest!😆🤣 Thanks for listening 😊❤

[@jenmccabeslostconscience]

That's what I said, too! She most likely dropped a glass/bottle, slipped because of the liquid and cut her legs on the broken glass, IMO.

[@alwayswondering127]

@@jenmccabeslostconscienceI’m certain at some point a neighbour said they had seen her fall into glass outside. That’s what this injury was actually from if I’m remembering correctly.

[@macroman52]

Doesn’t a piece of broken glass make a different type of wound? Not a clean slice that looks exactly like a knife cut?

[@jenmccabeslostconscience]

@@macroman52 When I cut myself by falling on a piece of broken glass the cut looked exactly the same (but on my hand) as it was shapened like the cutting part of a knife. I think, it depends on the glass piece.🤷‍♀️

[@AC949]

When she described the wound and needed towel after towel because it was bleeding like a fountain. Is that the cut she was talking about? With some blood dripping out?​@@alwayswondering127

[@rivkagreenberg3289]

You can always ask questions, I’ve been an addict for ten years, I am bipolar, didn’t manage my mental health for 20 years well, and now managed well for the past 20 years, I also work in behavioral health field for 8 years, and in school for BSW the past two years… I love educating people about mental health and addiction 😊

[@valentinat3250]

Good for you👏🏻

[@catdad33]

Thanks Peter 🙏🏼 you instantly became my favorite lawtuber when you matched donations. Utmost respect sir, great work as always

[@bettyaduke4007]

SB’s testimony should have started with “once upon a time…”

[@breanapadilla3661]

Remember, she excels at everything 😂

[@katet3327]

Straight A student 😂

[@Grammichal]

@@katet3327 Fabulous mother. Award winning alcoholic. Top notch murderer.

[@CuriousES]

Omg the description of narcissistic its like perfect demonstrated in the many letters

[@zoobluez]

When i get very suspicous, when Jorge "got down on his knees and beg her to not call 911 - when he allegedly stab her in the leg". That got me think that she HAD control over him - each time he did something who affended her. His probation officer has contact with Sarah. and she was "wonderful".

[@kelliebellerina]

IDK how to say it but I get this weird sense, especially in the TV video... There's a lot going on. Like, is she truly actively purposefully provoking him, especially when he is drunk and less inhibited? I mean, the more he goes to jail, the more she gets to be a hero for rescuing him and she really gets off on that. I know that you can never accuse a victim of just baiting their abuser, ultimately you're in charge of your own behavior but... There's a lot going on here

[@zoobluez]

@@kelliebellerina Agree to your analysic, she definitly got off on power of him. But it also 2 side, she could have done this activities to make him calm, so she could be safe. I dont know what I think of this trial yet?

[@jdubs-j4u]

Someone said if the roles were reversed, Jorge would most certainly be found guilty. Therefore, the prosecutor in closing should pull "A Time to Kill" situation where he has the jury picture it, and then say, now imagine a woman was in that suitcase. Boom!

[@katet3327]

Totally 👍

[@kelliebellerina]

Not a bad idea. I feel like the state needs a Camilla Vasquez. It's so awkward for a male atty to go hard on an (alleged) DV victim.

[@danidan9917]

I totally get what you're saying however, I think a male like Mr Jay coming at Boone triggers her grandiosity and hes using it to push her buttons. The last person who Boone wants to take crap off is a male. He's using that to his advantage ​@kelliebellerina

[@kristis4147]

That poor old lady is the ONLY person Sara could find to say anything good about her even though she has roots there and grew up that area her WHOLE life .Most people would have lifelong friend’s they feel like are family.

[@wildmercuryfilms]

ROOTS was one of The Best Miniseries of The 1970’s. I LOVED THAT SHOW! One of The Actors ended up on Star Trek: The Next Generation. Oh Yes.

[@Lisa-r6u1w]

Not true I'm fifty nine and have outlived most of my family and friends this past Christmas the couple that we went on vacations and stuff passed away too , my husband and I are not the out going social type so if I was on trial there would be very few people that could say they're my lifelong friend.

[@Grammichal]

@@Lisa-r6u1w Sarah is not 59.

[@emmagatewood3898]

​@@GrammichalI think she just turned 47. That's not very far from 59, in the grand scheme of things. I'm 45 and have already outlived some of the most loved people in my life, sadly... I still could scare up a few friends and relatives to testify for me if I had to though. I agree it's weird that Sara hasn't seemed to make a single real friend in her life. That is odd and it's telling.

[@Grammichal]

@@emmagatewood3898 Agreed. I was 39 when my mom passed away and 50 when I lost my dad. Of course, all the elders since then have passed away as well as my oldest son, who choose to drown himself. I’ve become rather reclusive but I still have friends of decades… Yike! I’m thinking of too many losses which I won’t list. TMI ✌🏽

[@deejaydiabolic]

The video of Jorge hitting the tv, to me, comes off like he's kinda goofing around... maybe showing off for the camera, beating up a dead tv or something. It's not like he's screaming in anger or even putting out a threatening vibe. Is he even raising his voice to her? Maybe a set-up insurance video for a rainy day? 🤔 she's lied so much that i think a lot of things could be plausible.

[@MiNeNotYoUrs555]

I was thinking that too.. just like she has no memory of the suitcase videos but clearly remembers the minutes in between and right after.. makes no sense.

[@deejaydiabolic]

@MiNeNotYoUrs555 funny how they always remember 90% of the event, but that last crucial 10% that really matters? Wouldn't you know it, they always can never recall that information lol

[@marysissonart]

Really! And what about ALL the photos of her bruises? Use some common sense

[@Fraukie_H]

@@marysissonart Common sense like: "if you put your handy around someones neck to try to strangle that person you MIGHT get kicked in the face" so just in case the person you are chocking doesn't appreciate that. To me that makes a whole lot more sense than believing everything someone like Sarah says.. As in: - someone who was caught in lies a LOT and - someone who remembers crystal clear EVERY tiny detail that might help her but for some reason "can't really remember" whenever it comes to the question if SHE might have been at fault.. Not to forget that we can only here ONE side of the story.. because the victim of DV.. the person who was controlled in every aspect of his life is to dead to tell us his side of the story.. Not even mentioning how he died.. begging for her to allow him to breathe without sounding angry for one moment.. only trying to calm HER down.. Trying to REACH whatever humanity might be somewhere in her.. I am not aggressive..never was.. but even I would have found a way less docile way to talk to her while she watches me slowly suffocating.. But killing him wasn't enough.. Now his reputation needs to be dragged through the mud while she never shows an inch of remorse or any emotion at all (other than how sorry she feels for herself and how mean it was of Jorge to die such an awful death to become such an inconvenience to her).

[@nessy9022]

Yeah it looked like they were making a TikTok. Very staged.

[@storkbat]

Rewatch Crew RN here...the picture of the black eye was definitely abnormal and would have me question if that was genuine...I am a psych RN and she really, really seems like she has many traits from a couple personality disorder...def narcissistic, probably borderline and she could be sociopathic...But definitely behaviors due to personality...people with personality disorders can get depressed too and often they have a history of abuse...Maybe it will be manslaughter, but I feel there was malice/depraved heart at the time of the crime...drunk or not...so as I juror I would see this one as second degree...thanks so much for all this great coverage...I watch EDB by day and you by night...love learning about the law and watching trials!

[@AliciaL98]

The lack of emotion and the callous tone of her video taunting Jorge is eery. Jorge wouldn't have comfortably fit into the suitcase. He would have been squished with his lungs and diaphragm, unable to expand fully. It would have been horrible.

[@valentinat3250]

Agreed!

[@Jamama4]

Agreed. Likely Borderline, psychopathy. Lacks empathy. That's what makes me wonder if he was leaving her. Triggered fear of abandonment. Personality disordered individuals feel justified in using extreme punishment for a minor perceived offense. Depraved heart. 2nd degree.

[@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt]

They battered each other….when Jorge was in the suitcase he was begging to get out and she was laughing and cursing and hitting him with a bat……she wasn’t scared of Jorge….she simply got her revenge

[@cbry2555]

He did not ask to be let out ? That would be admitting his submissiveness .

[@justinb1574]

While it was left unsaid in your video yesterday, this prosecution was terrible. They’ve done an awful job framing this for the jury, and missed massively on cross.

[@srain15]

I've been thinking the same. I had much higher hopes from all their pretrial appearances. I feel like they have missed putting a fine point on so many things. They've failed to circle back & connect dots for the jury. All I can think of is that they've been on this case waaaaaay to long and forget the jury hasn't heard the evidence a thousand times like they have.

[@chantallennox1201]

Maybe they just want to save it for a rebuttal after the defence finishes presenting their witnesses? Remember they didn’t fully know how the defence would introduce this new, last minute battered spouse defence. 🤷‍♂️.

[@majestic7107]

@@chantallennox1201I agree. They (the state) had to see how the defense was going to ague their case. The state had only a short time to prepare. I feel the state did their job.

[@OkieStinner]

I've thought this watching in the moment, like what? That's it? But in hindsight, I think the state knows what it has and the facts speak for themselves. In a way Jay is playing a good foil for the defense's theatrics and distractions. Getting straight to the point, no nonsense. In a way it makes the jury lean forward and pay closer attention and the rebuttal will hopefully make them see that they were misguided by the smoke and mirrors of the defense. There's hammering in the point and there's losing the jury by repetition. The shock value of the videos and interrogation gets lost after its initial impact. Pacing of the state's case is slow but I think that is by design.

[@gumbodance]

I think they are saving it for rebuttal since they didn't know what exactly the defense was gonna go with.

[@winkieblink7625]

SO FAR….I don’t see STRONG, ASSERTIVE prosecutors. This could be a strategy to appear not bullying….but I don’t see the attorneys AS DEFINITIVE and being specific in stopping Sarah’s saying “what do you mean, I don’t understand, I don’t remember”. The prosecutor re explains the question for Sarah’s minimal understanding of EVERY QUESTION instead of just REPEATING HIS QUESTION, as he should be doing. Prosecutors are enabling Sarah’s answering questions. Let Sarah figure out how she wants to interpret a straight forward question. That’s how a manipulative person TRAPS THEMSELVES.

[@H37P5kY57]

I sadly don't have faith in the prosecutor...I'm pretty resolved that Sarah is going home a free woman and if worst thing came of manslaughter I have a feeling she'll be getting out in 2 years tops. Defense is actually doing a good job and it's as if the state fell asleep.

[@harrisonmode8046]

So agree with both of you - state expected a slam dunk but if now caught without a strong game - I wish we had Juan Martinez

[@winkieblink7625]

@@H37P5kY57 YES! Owens LEADS EVERY QUESTION….then massages that question feeling out Sarah’s minimal answers and then builds on top of THOSE answers UNTIL HE GETS THE RESULT HE WANTS. The prosecution ALMOST NEVER OBJECTS.

[@Bee-24]

In the tv smash video, sarah is video taping it fully, standing right there. . How is she scared???

[@lperdue1971]

something is missing about why they are smashing the tv. I don't think it was whatever she is making people believe. she needs tips from AH in how to try to hide the phone to record dv

[@justMelissa72]

I don't understand why if the TV was working or even plugged in, why it didn't spark or at least crackle

[@MomtoAutism]

I think she is a shell shocked victim, been there as a child, watched horrific things happen and you just stand in horror

[@justMelissa72]

@@MomtoAutism I had to deal with my dad committing horrible dv on my mom when I was very young. It messes you up. She does not present this way. I don't believe half of what comes out of her mouth.

[@Mickey-rd5uo]

@@justMelissa72TVs are no longer made that way, everything inside is a chip or a sensor, very low electricity going through the TV

[@heapokids6]

First, if she thought he could get out, she would not have felt safe to go to bed #1. #2 her at 100 lbs would move a 200lb dresser in front of her bedroom door. 🙄🙄 #3 she told the dr. that he said something while in the suitcase that made her mad. Not terrified, scared for her life but pissed off. That should be case closed right there.

[@iwantthe80sback59]

Yeah, when she said she barricaded the door with a 200 lb dresser (across a carpeted floor) I spat out my tea. What a FN liar.

[@livingin1984]

I dont think shes a battered SPOUSE. She gave as good as she got (not saying she deserved it but neither did he). Then cried "poor little me, im just a girl" when it comes to her getting in trouble for her behavior.

[@chantallennox1201]

Yep, everything is one sided when it goes through whatever filter Sarah has running on her brain. She excels at everything she does, for instance, and is an outstanding mother 🙄

[@alwayswondering127]

And let’s not forget when Brian Boone was questioned he said she used to try and hit and scratch him all the time when she was drunk. She has a pattern of behaviour with spouses, Gorge did not. I’m not saying he was an angel but I do believe she was the aggressor.

[@iveliserojas612]

Jorge never had any abusive in he’s record only with the brother because of Sarah faught it the only time not until he meet Sarah but before that he never abused he’s exes he’s kids mom remember he’s drinking so she come him defended himself and what call the c Ops her being the main aggressor just like with her ex husband she blamed him a the therapy never takes responsibility I believe he was leaving her after he had drank with her and she hit him and put him in the suitcase listen to 911 she put then changed

[@iveliserojas612]

@@alwayswondering127me to it was checked by the cop all it started with Sarah but him be drunk may have try to defend himself from her or like the pictures Owen put fake pic of a black man it a fake black eye she probably put bruises on herself

[@iveliserojas612]

Not only thing is that Jorge never had any abusive in he’s record only with the because of Sarah faught it they only time not he meet Sarah but before that he never abused he’s exes he’s kids mom remember he’s drinking so she come at he defended himself and what call the cops on but her being the main aggressor just with her ex she blamed him a the therapy never takes responsibility I believe he was leaving after he had drank with her and she hit him

[@beagoodhuman473]

Hate I missed the live but it was the kids bed time. The tv video with the bat - I called it in the chat yesterday. It was not threatening to Sarah, only the tv, and I speculated the tv was broken and they had the drunk idea of beating it up before throwing it away. After hearing the sound I think it was more my idea than him scaring her. Like I said, she has had years to embellish stories knowing what videos and pictures she has. Oh, and her having to hear the therapist’s assessment? Part of her narcissistic traits meant that Sarah just thought the therapist was wrong and didn’t know what she was talking about. Sarah is smarter than her, of course.

[@davinastanton3865]

Because Sarah Boone is the cleverest person in the room. In her own head.

[@sharonlewis6258]

Peter, you are the best.

[@SonjaMercedes]

Jorge gets winded hitting the tv with a bat after each strike. I just don't see him dragging her down the stairs as she says.

[@carolann7942]

Has anyone talk about the suitcase being upstairs in closet, tag you’re it & he goes upstairs to hide in suitcase. She zips & knocks down stairs, takes pic, takes video?

[@valentinat3250]

💯

[@carolmarie3123]

Ugh !!! Still waiting for the Prosecutors to kick it up a notch !!!

[@Manny-Festo]

Easy Murder 2 Conviction

[@sabrinanicole758]

I think he does a good job in concentrating on the relevant issues. It doesn't matter that they abused each other, that night she was not in fear of her life, that night he did nothing to her. She frankly was just angry at him, that's what she said to her own expert "he said sth that made me mad" not he threatened my life as she testified. She knew he couldn't breath. All the talk about abuse is just to direct the attention away from what she did.

[@chrisshergie1030]

Great, you have identified your problem. Step 2 is to correct this personality flaw

[@Medra207]

I believe you will see the fireworks rebuttal starts tomorrow.

[@chrisshergie1030]

@@sabrinanicole758so she allowed him to die. She did not murder him. Should she have let him out? Absolutely. Should she be punished and held responsible for not letting him out? Yes. Did she make him get in the suitcase? Nope. Did she murder him? No she didn’t. Manslaughter.

[@RosePavia-t4j]

We have to remember the jury doesn’t know what the rest of us know regarding her past history of having 9 lawyers and all of the stuff we saw in the four years of her being incarcerated. It makes me nervous because the state is not doing a great job showing what kind of person she really is. I see them finding her guilty of manslaughter possibly. I hope I am wrong.

[@chrisshergie1030]

That’s absolutely what the charge should be. You have no proof she wanted him to die or knew he would die. He was speaking up to the point she went to bed. She also didn’t force him in the suitcase she just didn’t let him out. Yes she should be punished for what she did but the idea that you are nervous like it’s some great tragedy because she murdered a man is nonsense. Your emotional stability should not be predicated on whether or not someone gets what they deserve.

[@Psyche721]

You can’t show other evidence of what kind of person she his, that’s irrelevant

[@OYUKISUE]

​@@chrisshergie1030wtfudge we have no proof she wanted to kill him. Did you see the videos she was no angel and neither George but no one deserves to die a cruel death and still she has no remorse

[@SandyOhNo]

​​@@chrisshergie1030she zipped him up and he was begging to be let out! He pled with her because he couldn't breathe. Her responses to him was disgusting. She walked away knowing he couldn't breathe and went to bed. This wasn't an accident! If she does get manslaughter, it's equivalent to what the state offered, so that would be fair.

[@Fraukie_H]

I also have a bad feeling.. Like the prosecution was TO sure that no jury would look past the autopsy report, the suitcase videos and Sarah's behavior in all the footage (questioning and body cam). The opening was stale.. they didn't object to some stuff the defense just told without any proof.. I sure hope I am wrong and they wake up for a god rebut and a strong closing argument.. If not ... Sarah will get away with manslaughter or even worse: walk if the jury is not allowed to convict her for manslaughter instead.

[@Sarah-xb5ov]

Sarah reminds me so much of Shanda Vander Ark (starved her son to death). The way she spoke to police and how they both talked about the deceased. Their appearance, mannerisms and demeanor. Very similar... Anyone notice that too?

[@lilemoarts]

At the end of the first “Jorge and the TV” videos it sounds like Jorge is saying “Babe, I don’t want to.” as he nervously bounces the bat on the floor, and looks away from Sarah…

[@msflaringnostril]

I heard that too - "I don't want to do this"

[@beckyd712]

I'm sorry but Sarah Boone's "battered spouse" was her EX-husband Brian Boone; Jorge was NOT her spouse. *I also happen to know that when Sarah was arrested, it was because Jorge had her hand prints and bruising on his neck; she had been battering him so LEOs arrested her, even though she was the one who called police.* I thought the prosecution did a good job today, not going too far. *Please let there be Justice for Jorge Torres!*

[@macroman52]

Splitting hairs on semantics. Can we say battered partner syndrome?

[@jansliger8655]

Always miss the live. Just wanted to say I love how this community checks on members that have not been on. Hope Net Woman is ok❤. Thanks Peter for all you do.

[@kallykat]

Guilty period

[@chrisshergie1030]

Of manslaughter

[@kallykat]

@@chrisshergie1030 voluntary manslaughter

[@doneestoner9945]

I agree.

[@Budgie-Vic]

Wow, Sarah said almost word for word yesterday what this 2nd expert says .... Shes had years to plan the batter spouse, shes learned from the doctor what the symptoms are! The think about going for a walk, redirection etc.

[@dfury60]

The TV incident hit different than the stills. It looked like a game and not threatening.

[@lorileenew9227]

Why is she being so quiet and not yelling at him to stop? Was that the old TV? Was she setting him up?

[@Mickey-rd5uo]

It’s the old TV, the whole thing looked staged

[@beckyd712]

She totally set him up. He was NOT angry when he was hitting that tv, he was getting tired out hitting it FOR Sarah, he even stopped to rest.

[@Smee3]

Thank you for the recap, Peter! Work interrupted my trial watching. All I could do was hope for a video and LYK came through as always!🎉🎉

[@catherinebaum9185]

If you're driving drunk and kill somebody, alcohol is not an excuse.

[@MomtoAutism]

But it's not 2nd degree either

[@calliew311]

You're right, but it doesn't mean that they caused the wreck on purpose either.

[@catherinebaum9185]

@@calliew311 doesn't matter. They committed murder.

[@teddmented]

Long time lawyer here. This defense is such a load of pseudo-psychological mumbo jumbo it’s ridiculous. It certainly doesn’t apply here. The prosecutor should be destroying it with all of her inconsistencies but he’s being outmaneuvered by the experienced defense who’s reframing the case.

[@laura7607]

@@teddmented 100% agree. It’s driven me crazy that they didn’t highlight every single inconsistency and put all the versions of her stories out there 🤦‍♀️

[@kelliebellerina]

It does seem like they prepared to prosecute a pro se defendant.

[@genamar832]

As I heard the prosecutor has around 30 years of experience! So little work, so much lazyness, such incompetence. This woman will walk free and will profit from her crime. It's sad...

[@brendakauffman2222]

@@genamar832 I think Mr. Jay has it tough with the defense tactics, cause if he goes hard, then he looks like a bully. However, it sometimes feels like they are asleep at the job thinking that the two video's would be all the jury needs.

[@edsedlak6827]

I think it is even worse than 2nd degree. Based on the text messages, I think she planned this. But the prosecution knows that they could not prove it. 30 years minimum.

[@Melozia1]

I have empathy for both Jorge and Sarah with respect to being stuck in the disease of addiction. I don't believe Sarah intended to kill him; none of what I've seen has changed my mind. It's a tragic case all around.

[@marlenemeyer9841]

I agree 100%. They both likely have experienced very dysfunctional lives since childhood. I think Sarah was so drunk that night she could never think through the consequences of her actions. However, being drunk is not a good excuse. But it seems very different than driving drunk because everyone knows about what can happen when driving drunk. No one learns about the dangers of suitcase suffocation. Very sad for everyone affected by this! 😢

[@Grammichal]

@@marlenemeyer9841 Jorge clearly stated repeatedly he could not breathe. How about suitcase battery with a bat?

[@beckyd712]

*Honestly, I think we have aleady heard enough lies from Sarah Boone.Let there be justice! It makes me ill that Sarah claims she only weighed 98 lbs; truth is at booking she outweighed Jorge Torres by 40 lbs!*

[@coriolisse]

She didn’t look to me like she weighed 98lbs at booking either, but I assumed the attorneys were accepting 98 lbs as fact because that was the weight recorded at intake during booking. I’m relieved to think that my reality-testing skills might not be as off I had thought-because, to my eye, Boone looks to be at least 130 lbs at booking…

[@DoubleDoodlesDoodles]

I am an emotional battered spouse, for 30 years. We do not fight back. We are looking to please always. Sarah is NOTHING like a battered spouse.

[@marysissonart]

Wrong! You are very wrong

[@marilynrose1916]

Many should live a month in Sarah’s shoes. Too much alcohol.

[@apriljoy1094]

Victims are not all the same.

[@tamararutland-mills9530]

Me too. I had to flee with my children, leaving my ex husband in a home almost paid for. We DO NOT fight back.

[@sarawhitfield5415]

When you spoke about the Baker Act, it really affected me. I think you are a graceful person.

[@mizraim1599]

If I had accidentally killed someone I love in a suitcase there is absolutely no way I would be able to look at or get anywhere near that suitcase ever again.. Yet Sarah was like "oh shall I demonstrate with it".. sickening! The State have been awful during this whole trial.. they've failed to put on a decent case, despite having years to prepare and they've sat back and relied on one video to win this. They were both drunks, regularly beating on each other but she murdered him , laughed about it and recorded it.. that is not someone scared or in fear for her life.

[@brendakauffman2222]

I've felt too the State fell short. I've said all along I hope they aren't so confident in the video's that they aren't well prepared with the rest and work hard to connect with the jury.

[@julieloucalcote1368]

As much as I hate to admit it, I too feel like the state has been less than stellar. But, yes I agree with your statement.

[@dalliskay6719]

@mizaraim so called PTSD trigger just to think of that suitcase, not to even touch it! oh my! how sick! of course she has no PTSD. she is a narcistic/self-obsessed liar, that's all there is to it

[@oc2538]

I try not to judge her on that, to be honest it's been 4 years and I also think if she was shaking, timid and crying people would say "Oh she's fake she's acting". In the Ballerina case where the defendant cried everyone said she was fake, her demonstration of holding the gun was pathetic. For me I just want the proof that he was thrown down the stairs and it sounds like he was thrown down based on his bruising and the neighbours testifying about the loud noise.

[@macroman52]

@@dalliskay6719isn’t it Jorge who should be afraid of going near a suitcase again?

[@grngooseputter]

This was an amazing witness. DV survivor here, and everything he said was spot on .

[@MiNeNotYoUrs555]

22:08 falls in line with the " I've always been a straight A student, an outstanding mother to my son, I would not do that..."

[@skygodess87]

Definitely not Mother of the year!! Why would you put your child through this kinda trauma?! Hope Brain is supportive of Lucas and has gotten him into therapy. He must be a freshman in HS. Tough time for a teen, no less having to deal with this drama!!🙏🏾

[@macroman52]

Yeah. Sounds just like a certain exPresident

[@Girlmom4]

45:09 OHHHH OK YOU JUST MADE IT MAKE SENSE FOR ME PETER!! I was SOOO CURIOUS why Brian’s cross was SOOO SHORT?! I remember Brian saying much more about their past together and even situations with Jorge and thinking WHY isn’t the state asking him about what he’s previously stated in his interviews?! Very smart move for the prosecutor he’s going to go out with a ‼️ ‼️

[@alwayswondering127]

I believe they couldn’t go further as they’d risk opening the door to the battered spouse defence before the judge had ruled on it. I’m really hoping they recall him.

[@Lisam880]

When I was in an abusive relationship with a man who was an alcoholic I couldn’t even enjoy a glass of wine.

[@kimberleeradovani118]

That! And if I had a thought of fighting back I knew if I fucked up I was dead!

[@calliew311]

You weren't an alcoholic then. I'm not sticking up for her, but alcohol addiction, like most addictions, is powerful. And when you're not in your right mind you do things a normal sober person would never do. I think Sarah is narcissistic, I think she was in a dually abusive relationship, where they abused one another, I think, she had the upper hand a lot because she had the money, the townhouse, etc. I think she fucked up by not taking the plea deal, and I think she deserves to go to prison. But I don't think we can analyze her actions when we aren't narcissistic alcoholics in a relationship with a 103 lb man who was also an alcoholic. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@dalliskay6719]

@Lisa Because you wanted to think clearly in case something horrible was about to happen.

[@calliew311]

@@dalliskay6719 because she wasn't an alcoholic. People that have addictions don't just quit because they want to, esp Alcoholics. Most need help and alcohol withdrawals could actually kill you, whereas every other drug's withdrawal won't.

[@Lisam880]

@@dalliskay6719 that was exactly it. There was no way I wouldn’t be on my toes, per se.

[@carolnichols2869]

She beat him with the bat until he withdrew his hand. I believe she waited to see if he would stick it out again. Then she went to bed, and passed out. She had to feel safe in order to go to bed. She knew he wasn't getting out to come after her. I think she waited and figured he was dead before she went upstairs, and slept like a baby. She woke up and either remembered right away what took place, or she waied to hear him moving around downstairs. And the minute she saw the suitcase, she remembered what she did. Murderer.

[@catherinebaum9185]

Nothing scary about him destroying the tv. He didnt appear mad. Sarah was behind the camera. Also heard her using a computer keyboard.

[@kjbroo838]

I had my son beat the S out of a computer and hard drive before I got rid of it. He had fun.

[@TheKoolbraider]

This expert was easy to listen to. He explained things thoroughly.

[@Lisam880]

I was reading on Reddit and someone said there was plastic on the floor when he was smashing the tv. They called it a smash party. Did anyone notice plastic to catch glass???

[@MomtoAutism]

My dad had a smash party in the 70s when his old international truck stopped working....scared the hell out of our neighbors, as a child I was terrified and no one thought twice about the whacko taking a sledge hammer to a truck

[@Lisam880]

@@MomtoAutism lol I bet they had fun though. It was an interesting read.

[@MariaTucker-o5y]

Yes there was plastic on floor

[@winkieblink7625]

So…how many times do people get in luggage whereas “getting out would threaten” others? They are trying to normalize Sarah’s “trauma” behavior.

[@lesliehankins3916]

New sub and I’m 100% here for the rewatch crew 🤚

[@ellestegs]

Heeeeey, welcome. Sarah B. would take that as a compliment, right!?

[@elainejohnson6955]

I haven't heard one scintilla of actual evidence that Jorge did anything wrong on that night! It isn't illegal to try to escape being falsely imprisoned in a position where you can't breathe. I have, however seen and heard Sarah lie to police (commit perjury). Admit to committing battery. Falsely imprisoned Jorge in a suitcase (kidnapping). I can't figure out why the only thing she was charged with was the 2nd degree murder?!?

[@laimanarbute4188]

I understood that the first expert was not qualified as an expert for this particular case, because he didn't evaluate Boone, so he was testifying in generalities. But for me, his testimony landed more than the expert who talked to Sarah.

[@chantallennox1201]

Agreed but I think Sarah reminds me of someone with Asperger’s (and alcoholism) more than a pure narcissist. Once she understands she does care - she just has so much trouble understanding others

[@christineniering1233]

Thanking you Peter as always for your analysis😊👍🙏

[@Tobymare]

She’s not a battered woman, she’s a batterer who battered him to death!!!

[@GH-oi2jf]

Right. He had multiple wounds. Boone doesn't know how he got them, but we know.

[@nats2976]

Thank you Peter for the recap, didn't think the trial would proceed so quickly!

[@peterpiper517]

She's definitely a wreck, but so was Jorge. She just might have played her cards right. If 2end° is the only charge in the deliberating room, she's going home. Pros dropped the ball.

[@juliee6770]

I think she'll get manslaughter. Hopefully not hung jury.

[@genamar832]

I'm so sad. You are right.

[@veronica7618b]

In the television video, what he said in the beginning sounds more like he’s confirming that if he busts it up like she asks, that she promises to help him take it out to the trash

[@joannegregory3024]

Shes well aware shes inconveniencing others ask Brian, previous lawyers etc

[@Nickhexumluvsme]

I absolutely adore how one of the chat asked about one of our other CYK members! I was wondering about net woman. What a good community we have!

[@lorainemc4216]

Never was enough evidence for 2nd degree. Prosecutions problem is that they cannot twist it the same as before - now the other side of the story is coming out. Legally they have been unable to suppress Sarahs side despite theirbest efforts!!!

[@erindenny2814]

Most Psychologists/Therapists are familiar with the common diagnosis’ in the DSM5..they work with it daily..year in/year out.

[@HRHBeatrix]

Peter, you should have played the clip from Dr Harper where she stated that Sarah doesn't know that she's inconveniencing other people.

[@Arbiter79]

If she gets away with this and battered spouse gets applied in this casse. There is no justice in this world. How anyone can believe that this woman was the abused, and he was some sort of opressor. Well, it is beyond me. She controlled everything! Even if he did hit her or something, there is no way in H E double hockey stick, that this woman suffered from BSS or any other syndrome due to abuse. Absolutely ridiculous ....

[@judyostrom8972]

Agree

[@joannedarbyson8567]

Hi from Alberta, Canada. I started watching during the Karen R trial and became a member last week. 😊

[@IndifferentGem]

Are the jurors' brains on TILT listening to this, after hearing Brian say they coordinated shared custody time around her (and Jorge's) drinking schedule? 🤯

[@legolesscheese-wheel69]

On her narcissism - in her police interview out of the blue she says - I don't think you know who you're dealing with, I'm a straight A student, I excel at everything.

[@HeatherlyM]

Wouldn’t her ex husband Brian offer a lot to say on her behaviors and her & Jorge’s relationship? I don’t understand why they didn’t bring him back for more testimony. I think he would have been a great help.

[@juliee6770]

I think he's coming back tomorrow

[@alwayswondering127]

They wouldn’t get into anymore with him at the time as it would have been opening the door, they had to wait for the judge to rule. I’m really praying they recall him because he is extremely important to the case, especially when he admits the was heavily drinking, would attack and scratch him, and admitted he didn’t believe most of her accusations

[@HeatherlyM]

@@alwayswondering127 I absolutely agree!

[@anitagendler3812]

Hello Peter! Thank you for your update on the Boone Trial! I agree with you and feel that Manslaughter is a more appropriate charge in this particular case! What matters though is like you always tell us, it’s what the jury thinks! ❤

[@ryanhampson673]

I watched the entirety of todays trial. I think the reason the defense aired out Sarah’s mental health issues, narcissism, etc was to “head it off at the pass.” They were going first and might as well air out the dirt first and try to prove that their client “isn’t perfect” and has her own issues. I’m no lawyer of course but maybe they figured maybe it would soften the blow of the prosecution going all in on her mental health issues.

[@brendacrowder7388]

He was a great witness. I watch your podcast all the time.

[@cynher7634]

This whole battered spouse defense is a joke. There are 2 sides to every abuse story and both sides need to be heard, especially considering character witness has not been great for the defendant. And the victim has suffered the greatest punishment without the opportunity of a trial or to tell their story.

[@kathleenwedeking5676]

Jorge has NO VOICE. The state is FAILING him. She gave as good as she got. She was so TERRIFIED, she felt safe enough to go up to bed, because she KNEW he was DEAD.